Best League Start Ever! What I've Learned | PoE 3.20

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @TheSuperous
    @TheSuperous 2 года назад +42

    I'm currently playing boneshatter and want to share my perspective on the league mechanic. The sanctum guards are well designed in regards to a 1v1 scenario; all their animations are telegraphed well. However, in a 1 v many scenario it gets very dicey pretty quick as you are taking melee-reduced resolve damage from one but the full brunt from the other guards. Also, the melee range reduced resolve damage seems a bit counterintuitive to me as, generally, when you dodge you want to dodge away from monsters not into them (and the range for the melee bonus is pretty short too). This creates a situation for melee where you want to dodge but still stay very close to monsters at all time if possible. This was especially apparent to me when I was fighting the mini floor 1 boss as I took considerably less resolve damage when I dodge into the boss but still got clipped.

    • @igormoral2492
      @igormoral2492 2 года назад +1

      I've been trying to play bane/hexblast and is decent, but the amount of lag i'm getting...does not matter how telegraphic their attacks might be, I just can't avoid the hits. While i'm avoiding one proj, there are other 3 hitting me as i'm walking as a desperate cockroach, unnable to play through the league mechanic. Hopping to see if they improve that or if my pc just cant handle the game anymore. :,((

    • @TheOriginalDuckley
      @TheOriginalDuckley 2 года назад +1

      @@igormoral2492it’s been laggy for me too. I have a pc that far exceeds what poe needs. It’s not just you.

    • @blech71
      @blech71 2 года назад

      Good inputs my dood! Thanks for the actionable info!

    • @mortibus
      @mortibus 2 года назад

      @@igormoral2492 try changing your rendering from directx -> vulkan or if it's vulkan already switch it to directx11 again. I get lag on dx11 but not on vulkan and my friend has this issue in reverse

    • @julianmorales5985
      @julianmorales5985 2 года назад

      As a RF player, I kinda have to dodge through the bosses, this league is not treating me well lol

  • @stockdrifta
    @stockdrifta 2 года назад +8

    Thought i was imagining things with my gems leveling up suddenly.

  • @muldoon256
    @muldoon256 2 года назад

    I'm playing your Bane build and I am loving it. Easiest league start I have ever had. I like that it melts stuff on the screen, but you still have to pay attention to what you are doing.

  • @darrellsongy309
    @darrellsongy309 2 года назад +5

    Excited for console launch. Bane is always a great league starter. Thanks for your time and imput its always appreciated

    • @zcodoedoe
      @zcodoedoe 2 года назад

      I’m on Xbox and I cannot wait cheers

  • @TheHeroYouDeserve
    @TheHeroYouDeserve 2 года назад +2

    If you're melee, use a decoy totem. Easy peasy. Also if you're zoomy, check the win condition on the encounter. Most rooms it just says "find the exit." Since only a couple of monsters drop coins and the chests are not very rewarding, you can just zoom to the exit and collect your prize.

  • @jeffanderson3424
    @jeffanderson3424 2 года назад

    Chaos Dot Occultist was #1 way to first experience Sanctum. Great play pattern for learning bosses and rooms with full on coward starts. Easy to swap all defensive auras into offensive auras. Thank you for providing prep materials.

  • @Yomush
    @Yomush 2 года назад +1

    I've started playing SSF this league (technically I started in kalandra but I quickly dipped out and then promptly left the league altogether) and I LOVE what they did with rewards for rares. Now they feel like actual encounters worth your time and the loot is so good that I didn't think once about going back to trade league. I really hope that it's intended for how rewarding things are right now because it would suck massively to get the loot nerfed mid league. If it's indeed intentional then GGG absolutely nailed it. I like how they finally caved in and realized that archnemesis is not healthy for the game and made rares something that you are actually excited to see. First time ever I actually WANT to fight rares and you don't even need magic find to get good stuff. If GGG keeps this up I think that I'll finally convert to a SSF player full time

  • @neltins5308
    @neltins5308 2 года назад

    the biggest thing in this league is how easy it is to farm other content (not including Sanctum) in the atlas tree, I think people are really overlooking how great it is to farm specific league content now, I've been doing just deliriums & Breaches in maps, 20+ chaos in 5 minutes of mapping.
    i know people can get great heist contracts extremely easily now and farm that, Blight is the only thing I think has been made weaker, still farmable but I've never been into it, whatever your cup of tea.
    The rare monsters are fixed heavily but also give really nice loot... seeing all the loot explosions from rares in maps feels extremely nice.
    I'll wait to play Sanctum when they improve it with patches & I can use all the cash I've made from Atlas to make a build a lot better for Sanctum.

  • @MrTw2009
    @MrTw2009 2 года назад

    Speaking of loot, I found a 5link bow with all white sockets near the crossroads in act 6.

  • @WebCamCartmell
    @WebCamCartmell 2 года назад +1

    oooooooooh that's why all of my gems suddenly level up at the same time and scare the shit out of me.

  • @Wulfenst
    @Wulfenst 2 года назад

    Just wanted to say once again your Bane build has made my league start feel great! Started as venom gyre and had to reroll when i got to maps as build I was following ended up not working out well. Banes not let me down, even on a 5link im not struggling at all with sanctum or rares/bosses so far. I do feel incredibly squishy however even with determination + grace but only lvl 80 so a few more levels and gear changes should fix that.

  • @lootmaster1337
    @lootmaster1337 2 года назад +3

    Had a horrible league start but this time because i had to much fun with the league mechanic and was just llaying that every zone so far. Overall loot seem at least so far to be much better, even prior to maps. Wonder how it holds up in maps / t16+ content. But so far this league is miles better than last.

  • @GaeFootballClub
    @GaeFootballClub 2 года назад +12

    this is my first league start where i didn’t need to constantly look at a PoB! after 300 hours i finally feel like i found a skill that i feel confident with

  • @Toxondomo
    @Toxondomo 2 года назад

    I really like this league!

  • @lenandov
    @lenandov 2 года назад

    Feels good to enjoy the new league for a change.
    Not thrilled with the sanctum yet. Still gearing tho

  • @dieterbohlen7951
    @dieterbohlen7951 2 года назад +5

    In act 10 atm, not gonna lie, this Bane start is far beyond my expactations, I have NEVER had so high level in act because clear feels soo good. Loot is good, got raw divine in act 6 xD rarity in acts OP
    I want to see what this build will do with ilvl 80+, I am running with act6 gear right now. See you on the stream :D

  • @josephharskamp5576
    @josephharskamp5576 2 года назад

    OMG That's what that was, in regards to my gems all leveling up at once!

  • @CrookedVulture12
    @CrookedVulture12 2 года назад

    Can confirm Bane is good! Thank you for convincing me to give it a shot.

  • @blech71
    @blech71 2 года назад +1

    I imagine that totem builds will do well with the league mechanic…. But doing a full run around each room to initiate the mobs then fill the space with spark is gonna be awesome. Def making a spark build for the LM for sure.

    • @dave-bk6vt
      @dave-bk6vt 2 года назад

      Nope, totems attract random projectiles that pierce them and then hit you...

  • @leroyjenkins4017
    @leroyjenkins4017 2 года назад

    Had one rare drop cospris malice, Hyrris ire, brass dome and like 7 other uniques

  • @KimParkkinen
    @KimParkkinen 2 года назад +1

    I've been playing EA Elementalist. Last time I played EA ballistae was with Ziz's Champion version and that just felt little too slow to my tastes. The elementalist feels better, but still tad slow, waiting for the arrows to pop etc. But if nothing else the build is fantastic for the league mechanic. I can just pop down the totems and concentrate on dodging things. I believe totems, traps and DoT's are probably the best for the Sanctums themselves. Mobs die with one being able to concentrate on dodging.
    I am kinda sad I did not start bane again this league though. 😂

  • @lish6598
    @lish6598 2 года назад

    the less resolve for close range works fine if there is only one mob...
    but the challenging situations are if you have two mobs + a rotating laser trap...
    is seems not thought through to me

  • @nathanmoore1980
    @nathanmoore1980 2 года назад

    Abyss deli and beyond gonna be littt

  • @paths.to.ponder
    @paths.to.ponder 2 года назад

    In SSF, to get cluster jewels and oils, delirium and blight are the only options for the tree right? Are there other ways to run the atlas for SSF?

  • @uniquewiz
    @uniquewiz 2 года назад

    'ur encouraged to play around it', oh wait im melee so i can't. Great game design.

  • @joshuahensley9395
    @joshuahensley9395 2 года назад

    It feels so good broooo

  • @MrMeltJr
    @MrMeltJr 2 года назад

    Glad to hear Bane is buffed, lot of idiots on reddit saying it's bad. I was going to start it until I saw Vaal CA had good numbers.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад

      Yeah, absolute idiots. Build is popping off, I put about 200c into it so far and it feels even better than ever. Made me fall in love with it all over again.

  • @HadesCannotBeBothered
    @HadesCannotBeBothered 2 года назад +1

    The mod list on poedb shows some mods that are even more horrifying than arch nemesis ever was but overall this patch is moving in a good direction. While i despise this league mechanic the base game keeps getting better and better ever single patch (minus when arch nem was in full force) so i am happy.

  • @kaydenvortex1984
    @kaydenvortex1984 2 года назад +1

    Archnem isn't 100% dead. There's still certain mod combinations that make essence rares and scourge monsters immortal killing machines

    • @mrsuperwog100
      @mrsuperwog100 2 года назад +2

      but they actually give you loot now, every time I've spent 20+ secs killing something this league its dropped something half decent

    • @kaydenvortex1984
      @kaydenvortex1984 2 года назад +2

      @@mrsuperwog100 then you're extremely lucky. I haven't had a single god touched rare drop anything "wow" let alone "meh, thats okay"

  • @zzxxccvv01
    @zzxxccvv01 2 года назад +1

    My leaguestart was garbage. The league is not the problem but my build. I started rage vortex berserker and i just can't progress through maps. I didn't have much luck in getting resist on gear or in crafting and I'm not capped. I also don't have any attack speed so my bladestorm/RV gets forever to go off and i die constantly. Considering rerolling to Vortex ignite. After all these melee builds i played i finally deserve to play a walking simulator for once

  • @Bolaway
    @Bolaway 2 года назад +1

    Sentinel all time is a bit forced. I took 3 acts to buy my initial warcries from act 1 due to the lack of currencies. Yes I took 3 acts to drop 4 transmutations.
    I used to drop orb of binding, including chaos until act 4. Something I don't see since Kalandra.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад +2

      If you rush you'll definitely find less, much of the loot is behind rares and rarity stacking makes up for it. If you try to play the old way I can see it being less but if you modify how you progress you'll see WAY more.

  • @akirohitan4698
    @akirohitan4698 2 года назад

    Which uniques are good for speed leveling this build?

  • @gamerboy4566
    @gamerboy4566 2 года назад

    How do I check your current PoB? Do you have a publicly accessible PoB for your characters? I am playing your Bane build this league and about to try killing kitava (act 10). So far, quite smooth. But I am looking for boosting my defences. First thing I plan to do right now is switch from two wands to wand + shield and change the pob to spec out of the dual wield node cluster to the shield related one.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад

      Account name is just subtractem. Can look on public website or import in pob

    • @gamerboy4566
      @gamerboy4566 2 года назад

      @@subtractem Thanks. Found it.

  • @tokwa619
    @tokwa619 2 года назад +1

    do you have the updated pob for 3.20? i am quite enjoying your bane build
    thank you!

  • @teosandev6116
    @teosandev6116 2 года назад

    Arthas is dead as well. Doesn't slow him down much. Tested in standard, archnem feels much the same - if you roll a rare mob resistant to your damage type, it takes 5+ s to die...on a toon with 10+ mil dmg. The loot for me has mainly been mostly jewellers and alterations(80+ of each per map on average) and 2-3 scarab on a 80+ quant t16 on a toon with NO magic find. You drown in rares and swim in worthless uniques, the fractured item piles are still here. Of course, gloves atlas bases are worthless cause their implicit gets replaced by eater and exarch implicits and whatever influenced items you find directly are worthless too as they come only with lower ichors. Fracturing orb fragments are rarer than divines thus making harbs a joke at 6c. Fully invested into legion - new double icon chests give the same rewards as the old single icon chests, I also think that they have reduced the amount of splinters dropping, i've been getting consistently 2-3 per hoard. Then again i have 0 quant and rarity from gear and I am still not sure whether currency drops from rares scale with monster level. Maybe mf at t10-11 is the way now...

  • @khroomlet8821
    @khroomlet8821 2 года назад

    Just switched to Bane occ from venom gyre so I could do sanctum more easily. Thoughts on awakened spell cascade this season?

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад +1

      It's fun for clear but honestly not necessary with Profane Bloom + Hexbloom.

    • @akirohitan4698
      @akirohitan4698 2 года назад +1

      I’m switching off of VG as well. It’s fast but man these 33 year old wrists and fingers do not appreciate all the action. Time to fall back and level bane. Should have done it from the start!

  • @TheGabrielbowater
    @TheGabrielbowater 2 года назад +2

    League shaping up to be an all timer

    • @Nevernew
      @Nevernew 2 года назад +1

      Good or bad?

  • @callmeconvay7977
    @callmeconvay7977 2 года назад +1

    I cannot believe that GGG is still adding "fuck you if melee" things to new league mechanics. Melee hasn't been strong in the average players lifetime and they're still screwing over melee builds.
    Just stop putting murder floors right next to the enemies, GGG.

  • @jameysotelo540
    @jameysotelo540 2 года назад

    Ive only found 2 builds that i actually enjoy over the past few leagues that i know if im feeling rusty or just not playing well at all or just a leaguestart that turns into a build i just continue funneling into its wintertide brand cold dot or bane love both there playstyles although im actually kind of curious i havent league started it this league since its been 2 leagues since ive actually played cold dot but i saw there is a new passive tree node that gives +2 gem level to curses would that be something even worth going?

  • @Xaos_
    @Xaos_ 2 года назад

    I only got a couple hours to play last night, so I only got through act 3 and got my first ascendancy, but is there a consensus on unique jewels yet? Ik there was a lot of skepticism, which was warranted, but I haven’t seen anyone say much on them yet

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons 2 года назад +1

    Outside of the mechanic everything else feels better, no rare has made me go, I cannot kill this thing and I need to run from it, I will be mapping today and likely go temple, breach and beyond, all those new breach trees are very interesting.
    1% for ten breaches I would like to see, now that would be a breach map.

  • @martincoombes8745
    @martincoombes8745 2 года назад

    can we use the devouring diadem necromancer helmet?

  • @restingplace6381
    @restingplace6381 2 года назад

    Do you think I can stack around 300 rarity and play this just for maps and map bosses? I have a 300 rarity poco character and wanna see if I can use all her stuff for a bane witch

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад

      That's a lot, I think 100-150 you can be comfortable but 300 is headhunter mf deadeye territory

    • @restingplace6381
      @restingplace6381 Год назад

      @@subtractem Thanks. She ended up just over 90% (:

  • @razorz4947
    @razorz4947 2 года назад

    jey loot is super O.O i got a Tabula in act 2

  • @arsstv
    @arsstv 2 года назад +6

    I never though that i would see a league mechanic worse than bestiary. But here we are. As usual it feels like no one tested it at all. But at least archnemesis is gone, i guess.

  • @machito164
    @machito164 2 года назад

    i will go with expedition (tujen) and deli!

  • @Mestrenada
    @Mestrenada 2 года назад

    Do you think bane is good for ruthless? Considering that I could use curses as pseudo support gems

  • @healmyvision5941
    @healmyvision5941 2 года назад

    11:16 just use leapslam with the cane

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад

      It's VERY slow. Don't like it.

  • @HaPKoMaTo3
    @HaPKoMaTo3 2 года назад

    I don't know why you use ED +Blighf along side Bane. Last league I've played Bane+soulrend and it felt sooo much better. Espiecially if you put Bane in gloves for 5 link and 6link soulrend. Damage is really nice. And this time around you can curse prolif with new support gem on Bane. It stack perfectly with soulrend flying forward exploding everything and prolifing the curses further.

  • @akramlahmouri6101
    @akramlahmouri6101 2 года назад

    Does rarity support work ? I see no one talking about it

    • @sabbathguy1
      @sabbathguy1 2 года назад

      yep it would absolutely work if you can fit it in somewhere at the expense of damage..

  • @Vulgaels
    @Vulgaels 2 года назад

    Volcanic fissure totems chief is the best build i ever played, i am having the best league ever. Hell, i made so much currency while leveling from the league mechanic i got most my end game uniques already

  • @microwave_mayo1269
    @microwave_mayo1269 2 года назад +1

    Yeah the mechanic is kinda ass lol. Needs a truckload of tweaks but it has potential. Hopefully ggg gets their head out their ass and not botch it like Kalandra. I agree though, main game feels really good without AN and the loot is awesome.

  • @hollowman1345
    @hollowman1345 2 года назад

    That bait or no bait video was a meme video, definitely wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад

      Really???

    • @hollowman1345
      @hollowman1345 2 года назад

      @@subtractem I believe so bc I’ve seen a lot of the ppl they claimed were bait destroying content with the very builds in their respective videos. Yes maybe there’s some truth behind creating a satirical video like that or maybe it’s just designed to flame. Either way it’s getting views bc it’s controversial. But personally I didn’t believe anything they were actually saying.

    • @JohanCardel
      @JohanCardel 2 года назад

      @@subtractem QQ

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад

      @@hollowman1345 my response was sarcasm. So was the comment in the video. Just having fun man. Not that serious.

    • @hollowman1345
      @hollowman1345 2 года назад

      @@subtractem hahaha, I figured it might’ve been but wasn’t totally sure. Some ppl are quite sensitive about this stuff lol

  • @DeivixLV
    @DeivixLV 2 года назад

    I think GGG hit the spot with drops! Yeah most uniques are shit but hey, at least it encourages buying unique stash tab! I think it's a healthy thing, especially since you can SSF. The problem is build diversity unfortunately.

  • @serafeimgiavazhs5981
    @serafeimgiavazhs5981 2 года назад +1

    Bro i like ur video. As for expedition its just an illusion. With tujen and dannig led allocated ,8 expedition encounters only 1 was dannig zero tujen all the other 7 was rog and gwen. All this cause they have extreamly low flat appear to tujen and dannig

  • @valrandir
    @valrandir 2 года назад

    Awesome

    • @valrandir
      @valrandir 2 года назад

      I picked your bane build again and doing all the sanctums from act 1.
      Slow but very fun !!!
      Found the perma onslaugh helmet, going FAST

    • @valrandir
      @valrandir 2 года назад

      Ty for the great content

  • @fantomxdexrage
    @fantomxdexrage 2 года назад

    yuge

  • @tyleramell3371
    @tyleramell3371 2 года назад

    Really wish they would take rarity gear out of the game, hate the fomo of not having it, hate having to wear. meh

  • @gbxmusicchannel3836
    @gbxmusicchannel3836 2 года назад

    This league feels amazing and the mechanic totally sucks.
    Im both happy that the game is fun but also afraid that ggg will soon not be able to recover from their "vision" of removing fun from the game and instead trying to tell us what fun is.

  • @MR.G.A.A
    @MR.G.A.A 2 года назад +1

    i dnt agree with you on loot buff , loot seem sooo bad , even worse than last league

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад +2

      It's pretty insane man, stack some rarity and kill the rares. I've only seen everyone say that it's crazy good, even Reddit. Trust me it's great right now.

    • @Pizzastealingninja
      @Pizzastealingninja 2 года назад

      I found legitimately 28 uniques during the campaign, and I had like 26% rarity between some rare gloves and ring. It was fucking bonkers, and I feel like I'm finding 1-2 uniques per map I run.

    • @MR.G.A.A
      @MR.G.A.A 2 года назад

      @@Pizzastealingninja i found a total of 4 uniques and im now at tier 8 maps , hhahaha , no rarity or very few i didnt notice them on gear , so if 50 % more rarity u have you should find 6 not 28 , i dnt understand this game , feels so unbalanced

    • @Pizzastealingninja
      @Pizzastealingninja 2 года назад

      @@MR.G.A.A that's wild, but maybe I'm just clearing a much higher percentage of monsters with my wave of conviction elementalist? Idk otherwise, because it's just felt ridiculously overturned to me, sorry it's been shit for you

  • @david0502911
    @david0502911 2 года назад

    ....other people are getting good loot drops? wtf??

  • @tworoundhero6455
    @tworoundhero6455 2 года назад +1

    "you don't even notice you're killing rares half the time!" honestly super sad imo, just an opinion of course

  • @HariF94
    @HariF94 2 года назад +3

    The league mechanic sucks imo

    • @subtractem
      @subtractem  2 года назад +2

      It needs a lot of love but I think with the right tweaks it could end up really good.

    • @sabbathguy1
      @sabbathguy1 2 года назад

      @@subtractem let's hope.. it's a skip for me currently until they address some of the issues, but hey, name a league where the league mechanic launched and didn't need tweaking right?

  • @m1xxx3r
    @m1xxx3r 2 года назад

    tbh i dont see anything new in sanctum, all those enemies(except bosses) are just "Enemified" looks of MTX body armour sets, this was actually my thought when i entered sanctum for first time "Hey, i've seen this somewhere already"