So a little context warning: 'Not Cool' in particular gets very nasty and shocking with its humor and storyline, check the description for content warnings.
Cherami Leigh, the female lead of “Not Cool” is now an experienced voice actor with almost 400 credits, mostly in anime dubs. I’m happy that it didn’t kill her career.
@@jolielavey1769 She’s not to blame, she was just doing her job. If you’re an actor, unless you’ve reached a certain status, you can’t afford to say no to a role, especially if you’re given the chance to play one of the leads in a feature film. Most actors will never have that chance in their lifetime.
@@Unqualifiedmedicalperson She was friends with Shane at the time and worked on a few of his projects. But, y'know, it also doesn't matter? She was in her early 20's, and all she did was star in an edgy comedy that her friend was making. People grow, mature, and change.
Another thing you can say about Linkara that you can't say about Doug Walker: he treated his cast and crew very well during filming. Apparently, most of the budget went towards paying their salaries and providing them with catering and hotel accommodations. None of the people who worked on the movie have said anything bad about the experience. Doug, meanwhile, didn't know you had to provide water for your actors while filming in a desert.
@@cassie4300 Well he also signed over the rights to his own character, which is the main source of his fame, to a guy he doesn't know, who he hired to be CEO of the company he created. He's not the brightest bulb.
Not Cool releasing and bombing seems like it's basically where Shane Dawson realized that his old edgy style wasn't going to be popular or profitable anymore and shortly after switched gears to this really clean inoffensive persona. And it feels like hardly anyone questioned it. Maybe his shift in style just brought in a new fanbase unfamiliar with his older stuff, but the shift in tone feels so calculated and manufactured.
The fact that he went from hating fashion, beauty and common hygiene (he straight up peed in a bottle instead of going to the bathroom) to apparently loving make-up as soon as beauty gurus got popular says a lot to me...
To be fair i think he kind of grew up and the rest of his audience did too. im not saying his actions are good but he at least isnt annoying in the same way anymore.
Doug Walker: YOU GET SCRUTINY AND ARE DISGUSTING!! *Mr. Enter gets severely disappointed by how much of a monster Doug Walker was the whole time and uses a bomb on him*
I actually watched The Chair. Zachary Quinto who was one of the producers of the series and had frequently appeared throughout it literally refused to even be in the same building as Shane Dawson towards the end.
@@TheCheesybeef Shadow Raid the RPG that absolutely nobody is talking about. With amazing graphics on a phone, that is if you discount that Final Fantasy XIII is on Japanese mobile phones. With a story on the level of RPGs from the golden age like Fallout,Elder Scrolls Arena,Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy VII... only if you are literally smoking crack.
The little comment about Shane Dawson shifting his exaggeration and belittling of issues from himself onto others for the sake of a similar brand of drama and attention was noice
I literally had MRSA removed off the same spot on my chin and it looked like that for months so I thought the same lol. Then one day it just started growing back.
Fun fact: Linkara recently did an audio drama thing with most of the rest of the old Channel Awesome cast, and, honestly, it's a good example of just how much better he is at this then Doug. I mean, it being audio, he obviously didn't have to deal with the safety and catering issues Doug did, but, in terms of writing, t's clear he was more considerate. The anniversary specials pretty much always centered around Doug and his characters, but , in this, every producer gets their own dialog, storylines, and chance to shine. Also, whereas Doug was INFAMOUS for shoehorning everyone into his own style, Linkara watched episodes of everyone's shows to prepare, and allowed them free reign to improv and say different stuff, if they thought what he had written didn't fit their character. It's still not well-written, but it's clear people actually liked making it, which is more then I can say for Doug's projects.
The best part about "Not Cool" has to be finding out that the only actual actor that was hired was someone with literal hundreds of anime and video game titles under her belt and is so far into another league than everyone else that she basically delivers every line with a nuanced sense of sheer boredom because she knows she's better than this shit. Hats off to you, Cherami Leigh.
Okay so in regards to Atop the Fourth Wall movie budget, I went through some like... very quick and very rough maths of how much it would cost to fly to and from chicago, feed, house, and salary (at 15/h 8 hour days) the 16 people, not including extras, involved in the movie for a week and I'm already hitting around the 40k asking price just for that alone, so uh... yeah movies are expensive, 60k isn't a lot of money. Especially if you actually want everyone to be paid fairly and treated well.
Yeah it’s kind of annoying hearing “where did the money go?” on low budget movies when people forget that the actors- no matter how shit- actually need to be paid for their time.
Funny thing is, I was re-reading the Not So Awesome doc and I got to Lewis' section and he mentioned that the rent for filming at the place they picked was 1000 a day. They did ten days of filming there, leading to 10k (1/6th of the total budget) just going to filming at that location.
@@BaeCat872 yeah, it's almost like making this movie was a really bad idea. Like, come on, the money was supposed to be used to pay for good actors, set, equipment, editors, and directors. He literally paid for their flight and everything else he could. That's where the money went... to make somethings coherent to the lore instead of making new characters or a good final stand-alonestoryline. That's something that not only destroyed the movie budgetarily but also made character arcs and the script predictable and uninspired. I don't blame Quinton for not taking that into account. It's shit production either way... but it's also a passion project. And also, Kickstarter takes half the money. So they really only had 30 000. Instead of accomodating that with the cost he just said fucked it and decided to have motherfucking fight scenes, and ki battles.
I imagine part of it is that Quinton's experience doing low budget movies would suggest something a bit different but I think that's caused by Quinton living in a small town and working with friends in the place where the house and feeding becomes less of an issue.
I have to say, Lewis has always struck me as an absolutely lovely bloke. I have really fond memories of my time in the Channel Awesome fandom (the controversy surrounding the terrible management aside) and Linkara was a massive part of that. And I mean, Jesus, I couldn't make a movie, so fair play to him for realising his dream.
@@FranMSK Linkara's ascent was fun to me as someone who was there at the time, because he rose primarily on the back of having a solid, consistent work ethic and schedule. Every other major reviewer on the site was a frequent flyer on the hiatus plane, but Linkara would consistently put out a video every week, and out from no-where despite having little overlap with the rest of the site conceptually in terms of overall tone and topic, won himself a very solid niche through sheer hard work. Even as badly as his work has aged, I still respect it quite a bit just for that.
The thing about the atop the fourth wall movie is that it was funded by the 1 audience that would absolutely love it. Lewis’s stuff is just so genuine and if you let yourself get sweeped up in it you’ll fall in love.
Couldn’t disagree more. I dislike the Dude immensely. it started when he made videos scolding his viewers for using adblock and skipping ads. When I tuned in years later, out of curiosity he acted like his show was some massive Dr. Who like universe while jumping around in a power rangers costume. Besides: He doesn’t review comics, he reads them to the audience while making a slideshow. The Fair use line is something these channel awesome fucks never understood. God that sounded like an attack, i mean you do you. No hate here.
@@Sandra_aschenbach_doyle You haven't seen his Holy Terror review then if you don't think that he's capable of very cutting critique of very horrible things, or his JLA/Avengers review if you don't think he can effectively explain why something is so awesome
Chubomik Z i’m not saying he couldn’t do that. I’m sure he’s perfectly capable of that. To me that makes the fact that most of his Videos are Motion Comics with Dad jokes and the same three Memes all the more sad to me.
i cant really hate linkara's movie, it's very genuine and i feel like everyone had a lot of fun making it. is it bad? yeah, but i wish i could have half the unbridled enthusiasm linkara has for his storylines for my own stuff. and i guess that sort of enthusiasm is rare and a little bit admirable too. i cant really make fun of it either for that reason.
Agreed. I think you have to take the low budget, unpolished cinematography, and uneven acting as part of the medium. The storylines aren’t even the main part of his weekly show. He’s far more polished and professional as a RUclips reviewer. The storylines are a fun sideshow.
@@calebmarmon1310 i agree as well. I just think the reason why people look back and cringe (best word i can think of) at storyline based review shows. Is the fact that people are not that fond of the CA style reviews anymore. And keeping in mind the ridiculousness of said storylines can possibly hinder someone's thoughts on it This is coming from someone who also puts in storylines into his reviews.
The Masked Reviewer True. And while I’d argue that Linkara separates himself from the pack by aiming for some dramatic depth, clever writing (at least in concept), and continuity management, I was just as jaded and uninterested in his storylines when I first started watching him. It was only after realizing that he’d moved past the “nonsense for the sake of cheap references” stage that I started watching and enjoying them. Also I’ll have to check out your reviews.
Same, everyone seems to want to jump on defending Shane every time but nobody wants to point out the questionable stuff he's done. Glad someone did though.
You know, it's kinda sad that Lewis had stated multiple times he's doesn't care about films as much as he does for comics, and yet still managed to make a more enjoyable film than Doug ever did.(even if it is a so bad it's good way)
god Doug has tanked his reputation. Remember when Doug was a respected content creator? I wonder if one day Quinton will be looked at in the same way we look at doug now
@@angrybrony based on stories I've heard from some of the channel awesome people it seems that Linkara, if not a garbage human being, is incredibly awkward to be around. He can be super condescending and also gets angry over the smallest things.
I honestly can't see myself being too hard on Linkara's storylines despite their flaws. They have a level of sincerity in them that you just don't see from blockbuster film productions, and it's clear that Linkara cares about and respects other reviewers who collaborate with him in a way that Doug never could.
@@jadenbryant9283 Hasn't Linkara said a few times that he himself doesn't like Lightbringer and only leaves it up because he prefers to leave his "bad" works public instead of trying to bury it and pretend it never happened?
@@jadenbryant9283 Ah, yeah that's fair. Haven't really kept up with what he's like outside of the reviews (haven't even watched those in a long time either), so I was just going off of my basic memory. Assumed people were trying to point to it as something to mock his writing for because I've seen that kind of thing way more often online than I should.
I think most people got into him through AVGN. Their content felt similar enough to where they attracted each other's audience (the only difference being that James is actually talented).
I feel like, and this is me just shooting in the dark here as if I were making such an essay, is that he seemed different when he popped onto the scene (before a lot of current polished and stylized videos of superior quality came along) and his level of being that guy who seemed to start up movie reviews kept him at least as a relic with some authority. That being said, the signs were all there, especially as he began to be able to afford his yes men sidekick actors, very basic sets, and very basic editing programs (not even considering the whole game show controversy). Regardless, I still think someone should really go in depth with it. If they weren't still going and likely rather touchy, I would love to see some small production do like an indie Ed Wood or Disaster Artist (but more like the book than the movie) type movie exploring Doug's ego trip to his current status.
Personally I had really enjoyed his content in the very early days (pre-To Boldly Flee) because at the time my interest in B-movies was really starting to develop, and while his content was god-awful as 'reviews', the fact he was basically just making abridged recaps of assorted B-movie classics made it really easy to get into. I recall even in those days I would frequently find myself fast-forwarding past Doug's awful skits and 'review' to get to the clips. From there I sort of jumped over to Spoony who was a bit more substantial as a reviewer and covered a wider range of things I liked, and then after Spoony... well, Spoonied, I moved on to RedLetterMedia which is leaps and bounds beyond even most modern reviewers in terms of content quality and expertise. More recently other ex-CA creators like Lindsay Ellis have also really gotten out from the NC shadow and make excellent review content that I enjoy quite a lot. A lot of others I've talked to about Nostalgia Critic seem to have sort of a similar trajectory, coming to him initially from either AVGN or some other creator, and then using him as a leaping-off point to other better content they liked more. Considering how heavy NC was on crossovers, I imagine that probably accounts for a not insignificant portion of people that once "liked" Doug or the NC character.
I used to be subscribed to Angry Joe so the first time I discovered NC was when they did a crossover review for man of steel. I’ll admit I actually found him pretty funny and binged most of his other reviews. I don’t know if his humor got worse over time or if it just started to become stale to me but I eventually didn’t find him funny anymore. I honestly watch yourmoviesucks and ralphthemoviemaker now because not only are they more precise about why a movie failed but they’re also funnier and way more entertaining than Doug at this point in my opinion.
I think the reason why Linkara is a good youtuber is because he's always stayed genuine. Whenever Doug had a crossover, it always felt forced, and they were always below him, but when Lewis does it, it feels a lot more like him wanting to bring his friends in to have some fun. Doug forced people to adhere to his style and mannerisms as the Nostalgia Critic, but Lewis lets people behave and act how they would normally in their own videos. He just released another set of videos that I think is actually really good (since they didn't need to actually film, it was just an audio drama).
Dude..60'000 is really not a lot of money for a movie. A lot of critics are talking about a low-budget movie when it only costs about a million. I mean, the movie looks really terrible, but at least he delivered (unlike doug's indiegogo with the terrible gameshow^^)
I was trying to figure out how much the movie might have actually cost (not knowing anything about film, just trying to get an idea) but I immediately realized I couldn't begin to guess. What equipment and props were bought and which did he already have, what locations did he have to pay to film at, who got paid and who volunteered, etc. Just paying for everybody's travel expenses would probably put a good dent in $60,000 by itself.
@@sciscs Primer also was a lot less...ambitious I guess you could say? They knew they couldn't afford a bunch of flash, so focused on a tight script. They stripped everything that they didn't need. Tiny cast, no set to speak of. Linkara wants to make a billion dollar comic book movie with 3 bucks and a shoelace.
Linkara is a really cool guy tbh and the cheesiness of his content reflects comics in this really fun way. Never saw his movie but it looked like it had the same charm.
You know you mention the budget of 60K but I don't really feel like its super unreasonable. Like on their Indiegogo they said it would be 10K for DVDs and another 10K for the online release which is basically just them making a profit. So that leaves 40K for the movie, there are 6 main actors assuming literally nothing else costs money and no one else gets paid that's $6,666 for each of them which is not crazy. Then you have to consider probably at least half of that had to go to other actors, and transportation costs, I highly double anyone walked away from this making more than a few thousand, and most of that money would have been simply compensating them for there time because acting isn't free. That was like half of the point of the shit Doug Walker got for his movies was making people work without being paid.
Having worked on a low-budget movie and knowing people who have worked on low-budget movies, the $65K probably mostly went to transportation, housing and food for the cast and crew, and maybe paying a sound engineer/mixer
@@DuelaDent52 Silly storylines connecting many properties owned by one conglomerate, inept dramatic writing, and... interesting voice acting. It should be known that Kingdom Hearts is pretty neat, and I hold both Atop the Fourth Wall and Kingdom Hearts in the highest respects.
Okay but, that line "You don't know what's it's like to stare at an angry god as it laughs at how small you are and then you stare right back at it and make it blink" is pretty metal
In Atop The Fourth Wall's lore, Linkara's reviews are incidental. All the threats he faces are far more important than reviewing comics. In Nostalgia Critic's lore... there's absolutely nothing in the universe that's more important than Nostalgia Critic reviewing movies.
AT4W is definitely a relic from a different era of internet review shows. Wheras Lindsay Ellis evolved into a more video essay format Linkara has stuck to the same MST3K style of review. Which I do enjoy in a comfortable sort of way. But the thing is a few years back Linkara did a April Fools episode where he did a parody of Jim Sterling's show and the thing is, it's actually really damn good. Insightful, well written and actually did pretty well views wise as far as I can remember. Personally I'd love it if he switched to doing more of that content. He IS capable.
Agreed. I adore Linkara tbh. He's one of the few pieces of my childhood that I can still hold in rather high regard. His videos are corny as all hell, and I'd feel weird about introducing them to someone now, but they're very comforting and familiar to return to as a child of the late 2000s. He got me into comics, after all. And a number of his reviews, such as the ASBAR series, really hold up. I mean, they clearly stuck in people's minds; you can still in some comic circles refer to the characters of ASBAR as "Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson, Age 12" and plenty of people will get the reference. That said, I do honestly wish he'd do more videos like his April Fools video. His comics commentary is actually brilliant.
@@rachelhallie7483 His "History of Power Rangers" series does sometimes feel like it could become a video essay at any moment. Dude clearly has some solid researching and writing skills, but to most people on the internet, he's the guy that shoots comics with a toy gun.
If you want to know where the money went for the AT4W movie it’s literally all on the screen. The money went to paying the actors, transportation, renting out places to do the filming, catering, and making and distributing DvDs. Say what you will about Lewis he’s not Doug
True Story: Linkara went to my high school. This is proven by the fact he's wearing a sweatshirt of that school's speech team(of which I was also on) as well as a picture of him in our trophy case. I was a massive fan of his and my junior year of high school(right after the movie came out) I wrote a fan sequel to his "film." And I can guarantee you that my high school fan draft would've turned out just as well as the final product
I've been a fan of Linkara since I was 12 and still am at 23. He got me into comics, and the first comic I ever bought is signed by him. Is his storyline stuff cheesy? Hell yeah. I honestly don't follow his skit stuff that much. But his reviewing is still solid (don't believe me, check out the ASBAR reviews. The delivery of "Batman, agent of NAMBLA" still gets me after all these years). It's an outdated style, yes, but when he hits he makes seriously good content. And the point still stands that for a comics-based channel, which is by nature niche, he still has a very strong following. I think part of the fun of his content is that the silly stuff is played so seriously. It makes me happy to see so many sticking up for him and his movie in the comments. Linkara in my opinion is a relic of the late 2000s internet in much the same way Doug is, but one that many of us still look at fondly. Hell, watch any Backissues episode (a much newer and on-trend show) of a comic he's reviewed and you'll get references to him in the comments.
Linkara doesn't get nearly enough credit for the humour in his reviews. And heck, AVGN also makes heavy use of cheesy After Effects scenes and made an entire movie with them, yet he doesn't get the same criticism.
The things Linkara makes are so earnest and dumb and cheesy. How can you not love it? It's not good, but it looks fun! And how can you not want to be part of something or make something that cheesy, dumb, and fun? I love the Atop the 4th Wall Movie. And as a nerd, how can you NOT want to do the kinds of things that Linkara does? Working Pokeballs and lazer guns? Real Cybernats and Sonic Screwdrivers? It's corny and dumb, but I would love to have the ability to play in a world like that. If you ever do this again, may I recommend Lazer Team? The movie RoosterTeeth made starring two of the Achievement Hunters (gamers, not actors) and one of the company's founders? It's not very good. But it too is fun and dumb and kinda encapsulates how much RoosterTeeth wants to grow and be taken seriously. Also does Who Killed Markiplier count as a movie? It probably would be considered a short film, I guess if you put all the parts together. Because Who Killed Markiplier is also a lot of an ego trip but it's also... Not bad. It's certainly different from the rest of the RUclips movies I've seen and seen reviews of.
AT4W and it's movie is goofy and probably objectively terrible... but they have a lot of passion and charm that overcomes any failures and had me invested all the way. The movie in particular feels like a bunch of friends got together and had fun, which made it enjoyable to watch. It's like the Sonic Adventure games in a way. Flawed but fun and engaging.
"It’s the ultimate secret desire of most RUclipsrs that one day if we work hard enough and make something ultimately good enough for mainstream audiences, we’ll be able to stop being Youubers." We are now in a hipster YA movie about how Troye Sivan made it out of the internet slums
It's really terrifying to think of the fact that if you die you go through all of the Nostalgia Critic intros and you hear in the distance is "Melvin Melvin brother of the Joker"
@@jeniferjoseph9200 That's really low budget if you consider all of these people were paid. Who knows about flights etc. It looks like a shitty movie but I just feel like ripping on it is the equivalent of shitting on your friend who is trying to get into painting and isn't very good but does it for fun.
I should note that most of the budget went into renting a warehouse to place sets and film there. I think he stated the original idea was to save costs by filming at Doug's studio, but Mike Michaud refused to let them film there. So, yeah it's kinda Mike's fault(what a shock)
I have been watching your videos non stop for like a day now. You somehow manage to say like atleast one thing per video where I go "well shit why did it take quinton directly telling me this". Idk what happened but you somehow turned into my favorite youtuber.
When all is said and done, $60,000 for any two-hour movie (let alone one with lots of characters and effects and costumes) is basically less than peanuts. That movie looks *exactly* what I'd expect from $60,000.
@@psycho_dog33 It's not like critique is exclusively meant for bad things or anything. I'm sure there are things to be learned from what that or any given work does right.
Please keep dragging Shane Dawson and reminding people that while he's "not as bad as" he was when he first started doing RUclips, he still partakes in shady shit, and trying to side-step it with this phony innocent, wholesome facade.
I watched this whole video having misunderstood that Not Cool was made in 2014. (I know next to nothing about Shane Dawson.) I thought it was at least 4-5 years older than that, would’ve even placed it mid-2000s, based on how desperate, clumsily raunchy, and clueless it is. Also Shane looks so much younger than the limited exposure I’ve had to him. I think it’s because, as Quinton describes, he’s apparently changed so much over the course of his fame. Also, I think of him as an Onision counterpart, and I was aware of his “fame” from his meme-y moment on Tosh.O, so I run them together in time. Realizing Not Cool was made in 2014 - which to me at my age exists both as recent memory and ancient history - was just really jarring. Time and relativity is getting more and more fucked up and twisted as I get older.
Exactly! The messed up thing is that behind the scenes, people wanted him to remove some of the jokes because they were insensitive but he acted like a spoiled toddler and refused to remove anything.
in this video we see the full evolution of Quinton turning into a dip eating trucker and then suddenly into Ned Flanders if he had a hulk hogan mustache
Also the premise of the chair is that the two directors had use the same script. They were both allowed to change it but they had the same starting point and couldn’t change the basic premise
Actual member of the AT4W film production crew here. I was a general production helper, I drove much of the cast to/from the studio every day, and I was Pollo in a couple of scenes (including part of the scene where he has the conversation with MarzGurl). I can attest to the production running incredibly well, being treated well, and Lewis actually gave a crap about people keeping their characters consistent. If something he wrote contradicted what one of the actors would typically do, it was changed. 22:5130:07 these riffs actually made me laugh my ass off.
@@expendableindigo9639 Ok Mysteryguitarman has made successful films But my main point is that the best RUclips filmmakers are the ones that are filmmakers before they were RUclipsrs
one thing i kind of have to respect linkara for is that he gets it? like he doesnt get anything from making the story parts and knows thats not what most people watch him for so he puts it the end of the videos like reviewing comics is his job and making the skits is a hobby
I love how you presented this video as "youtube movies but no channel awesome" and then literally 2/3rds of the video is just one channel awesome movie. Like it's literally long and paced enough to be its own separate video and instead its almost like a surprise! This is actually what the video is about! I love it
Fun Fact: The person who played Tori in Not Cool also voiced Shana in Funimation's English dub of seasons 2 and 3, the movie, and the S OVAs of Shakugan no Shana.
@@bigpenny8223 eh, it's weird. It has a lot of charm, and it's obviously a passion project from James Rolfe, but it's not a good representation of the AVGN series
I'm not a fan of Linkara, but I liked his movie, I've just finished watching it. Never forget what it is: a low-budget internet movie. For what it is, it has good effects, good dialogues, not too many pointless pop cultural references (looking at you, NC...), and decent acting for amateurs (I was especially surprised by Nash). I don't think it deserves all those negative reviews. Is everyone comparing this to high-budget Hollywood productions??
Ah yes... The Atop the Fourth Wall movie. Made when every personality felt like they had to make a movie about their fictional critic character just because The Angry Video Game Nerd did it. There was Atop the Fourth Wall, The Cinema Snob made a movie (which I actually owed a DVD of before eventually throwing it out,) Spoony announced that he was making a movie and never made it, and I'm pretty sure about half of the contributors to That Guy With The Glasses/Channel Awesome at least announced a movie if not filmed it. I'm also pretty sure that Angry Video Game Nerd movie isn't all that great either.
nash and allison were absolutely the best part of the atop the fourth wall movie tbh? they had scant scenes where they were central but they were incredibly enjoyable. nash's "i. i want a spaceship :c" bits and wild confusion at joe having lightning hands was kind of hard not to smile at. the thing that gets me too is i drop in and out of following atop the fourth wall? like i'm someone who never sticks with the continuity because i view it so rarely and quit for so long at a time. but still the important detail of that movie is that linkara actually fucking made sure the characters of the other content creators were matched to their actual personalities instead of just. "casual rape scene goes here" like doug.
So a little context warning: 'Not Cool' in particular gets very nasty and shocking with its humor and storyline, check the description for content warnings.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING THROUGH CHEMO OR SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THAT BEARD PATCH JESUS
Please review Detective Heart of America. It's glorious.
Hey Quinton you look kinda different in the beginning of the vid. Did you get a haircut or something?
Quinton what the heck 1v1 me in minecraft bro
@@rezziey8435 Nah it's in the Quinton Reviews deep lore.
The beard decreasing made me feel uncomfortable
Your profile picture actually does make me feel uncomfortable... What is that?
@@alicedubois1348 it's a plush of Ren from Ren n Stimpy
Agree
I thought I was having an aneurysm.
Especially at the start when it was just a patch of missing beard hairs... terrified.
Cherami Leigh, the female lead of “Not Cool” is now an experienced voice actor with almost 400 credits, mostly in anime dubs. I’m happy that it didn’t kill her career.
I had to go back and check, and yep, I’d recognize that voice anywhere, holy shit that is Cherami Leigh lol
she willingly went along with it lmao she's just as bad
@@jolielavey1769 She’s not to blame, she was just doing her job. If you’re an actor, unless you’ve reached a certain status, you can’t afford to say no to a role, especially if you’re given the chance to play one of the leads in a feature film. Most actors will never have that chance in their lifetime.
@@Unqualifiedmedicalperson She was friends with Shane at the time and worked on a few of his projects.
But, y'know, it also doesn't matter? She was in her early 20's, and all she did was star in an edgy comedy that her friend was making. People grow, mature, and change.
Another thing you can say about Linkara that you can't say about Doug Walker: he treated his cast and crew very well during filming. Apparently, most of the budget went towards paying their salaries and providing them with catering and hotel accommodations. None of the people who worked on the movie have said anything bad about the experience.
Doug, meanwhile, didn't know you had to provide water for your actors while filming in a desert.
as an aspiring director, to boldly flee makes me gag
That supports my theory: Doug Walker isn't a horrible person. He's just incredibly stupid.
@@culwin malice and incompetence, etc
@@culwin not only that, he had no idea of what a movie production truly entails. I mean forgetting that people need food and drink is kind of worrying
@@cassie4300 Well he also signed over the rights to his own character, which is the main source of his fame, to a guy he doesn't know, who he hired to be CEO of the company he created. He's not the brightest bulb.
It’s been a literal decade and I still wonder why people like Shane Dawson
Ikr
A look in to the past: all 5 years of it. Funny how quickly tastes change.
he's.....fun
bro,,, what is your pfp from
This aged well
Not Cool releasing and bombing seems like it's basically where Shane Dawson realized that his old edgy style wasn't going to be popular or profitable anymore and shortly after switched gears to this really clean inoffensive persona.
And it feels like hardly anyone questioned it. Maybe his shift in style just brought in a new fanbase unfamiliar with his older stuff, but the shift in tone feels so calculated and manufactured.
The fact that he went from hating fashion, beauty and common hygiene (he straight up peed in a bottle instead of going to the bathroom) to apparently loving make-up as soon as beauty gurus got popular says a lot to me...
I remember he also tried to get a tv series going. Like hell
He’s not really clean or inoffensive, he just thinks about the effects more.
To be fair i think he kind of grew up and the rest of his audience did too. im not saying his actions are good but he at least isnt annoying in the same way anymore.
It’s the reason I stopped watching him
Not cool deserved way more scrutiny. That movie is disgusting.
Doug Walker: YOU GET SCRUTINY AND ARE DISGUSTING!!
*Mr. Enter gets severely disappointed by how much of a monster Doug Walker was the whole time and uses a bomb on him*
I actually watched The Chair. Zachary Quinto who was one of the producers of the series and had frequently appeared throughout it literally refused to even be in the same building as Shane Dawson towards the end.
@@kieranstark7213 Mr. Enter is a fucking joke, so I wouldn't be trotting him out as a paragon of morality.
Kieran Stark Cringe
@@cannibalisticrequiem his content is shit but overall I find him pretty inoffensive
*notices his beard patch*
you're gonna advertise dollar shave club, init?
Before you know it, he'll advertise Raid and Vikings.
@@TheCheesybeef Shadow Raid the RPG that absolutely nobody is talking about. With amazing graphics on a phone, that is if you discount that Final Fantasy XIII is on Japanese mobile phones. With a story on the level of RPGs from the golden age like Fallout,Elder Scrolls Arena,Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy VII... only if you are literally smoking crack.
@@TheCheesybeef I hear it's just like those strategy games of old
Fuck I didn't see this comment before I made my comment about it
At least it was creative rather than people just saying about it, he shaved his facial hair bit by bit
The little comment about Shane Dawson shifting his exaggeration and belittling of issues from himself onto others for the sake of a similar brand of drama and attention was noice
this aged well
I’ll be honest Quinton, I’ve never ever seen someone do that kind of beard gag and that’s why I love your channel.
I thought he'd had an accident until he took the next bit off.
I have actually, but it never gets old! X'D
Agrellar
Yeah, me too. On a german channel though.
I’ve seen it in an old vlogbrothers video
I was honestly expecting it to go back and forth in different stages as the video progressed. Still lol'd tho
I wonder if Angry Joe still has his after effects lightning powers.
nejdalej if they do, they probably only last 4 Hours
Rinku588 If your after effects lightning powers last longer than 4 hours, please contact your doctor
He still has a leather jacket that doesn't fit him.
Not unless he renewed his creative cloud subscription
Since he's mostly reviewing movies now? No.
Quinton your beard what's up with i
Oh
I was wondering the exact same thing
Devan Rai try watching the video
Looks like Alapeciea
I literally had MRSA removed off the same spot on my chin and it looked like that for months so I thought the same lol. Then one day it just started growing back.
Fun fact: Linkara recently did an audio drama thing with most of the rest of the old Channel Awesome cast, and, honestly, it's a good example of just how much better he is at this then Doug. I mean, it being audio, he obviously didn't have to deal with the safety and catering issues Doug did, but, in terms of writing, t's clear he was more considerate. The anniversary specials pretty much always centered around Doug and his characters, but , in this, every producer gets their own dialog, storylines, and chance to shine. Also, whereas Doug was INFAMOUS for shoehorning everyone into his own style, Linkara watched episodes of everyone's shows to prepare, and allowed them free reign to improv and say different stuff, if they thought what he had written didn't fit their character. It's still not well-written, but it's clear people actually liked making it, which is more then I can say for Doug's projects.
The best part about "Not Cool" has to be finding out that the only actual actor that was hired was someone with literal hundreds of anime and video game titles under her belt and is so far into another league than everyone else that she basically delivers every line with a nuanced sense of sheer boredom because she knows she's better than this shit.
Hats off to you, Cherami Leigh.
i love her as a voice actress and i feel so bad that she had to kiss him 🤢🤢
Okay so in regards to Atop the Fourth Wall movie budget, I went through some like... very quick and very rough maths of how much it would cost to fly to and from chicago, feed, house, and salary (at 15/h 8 hour days) the 16 people, not including extras, involved in the movie for a week and I'm already hitting around the 40k asking price just for that alone, so uh... yeah movies are expensive, 60k isn't a lot of money. Especially if you actually want everyone to be paid fairly and treated well.
Yeah it’s kind of annoying hearing “where did the money go?” on low budget movies when people forget that the actors- no matter how shit- actually need to be paid for their time.
Funny thing is, I was re-reading the Not So Awesome doc and I got to Lewis' section and he mentioned that the rent for filming at the place they picked was 1000 a day. They did ten days of filming there, leading to 10k (1/6th of the total budget) just going to filming at that location.
@@BaeCat872 yeah, it's almost like making this movie was a really bad idea. Like, come on, the money was supposed to be used to pay for good actors, set, equipment, editors, and directors. He literally paid for their flight and everything else he could. That's where the money went... to make somethings coherent to the lore instead of making new characters or a good final stand-alonestoryline. That's something that not only destroyed the movie budgetarily but also made character arcs and the script predictable and uninspired. I don't blame Quinton for not taking that into account. It's shit production either way... but it's also a passion project. And also, Kickstarter takes half the money. So they really only had 30 000. Instead of accomodating that with the cost he just said fucked it and decided to have motherfucking fight scenes, and ki battles.
I imagine part of it is that Quinton's experience doing low budget movies would suggest something a bit different but I think that's caused by Quinton living in a small town and working with friends in the place where the house and feeding becomes less of an issue.
As the guy that played the Agent in the At4W movie / series I'll say it really was a fun shoot. Loved seeing your take on it 😁
I have to say, Lewis has always struck me as an absolutely lovely bloke. I have really fond memories of my time in the Channel Awesome fandom (the controversy surrounding the terrible management aside) and Linkara was a massive part of that. And I mean, Jesus, I couldn't make a movie, so fair play to him for realising his dream.
It took me untill now to realise this.
Oh hey, it's that guy who's saucier than Pizza.
@@FranMSK Linkara's ascent was fun to me as someone who was there at the time, because he rose primarily on the back of having a solid, consistent work ethic and schedule. Every other major reviewer on the site was a frequent flyer on the hiatus plane, but Linkara would consistently put out a video every week, and out from no-where despite having little overlap with the rest of the site conceptually in terms of overall tone and topic, won himself a very solid niche through sheer hard work. Even as badly as his work has aged, I still respect it quite a bit just for that.
The thing about the atop the fourth wall movie is that it was funded by the 1 audience that would absolutely love it.
Lewis’s stuff is just so genuine and if you let yourself get sweeped up in it you’ll fall in love.
Couldn’t disagree more. I dislike the Dude immensely. it started when he made videos scolding his viewers for using adblock and skipping ads. When I tuned in years later, out of curiosity he acted like his show was some massive Dr. Who like universe while jumping around in a power rangers costume. Besides: He doesn’t review comics, he reads them to the audience while making a slideshow. The Fair use line is something these channel awesome fucks never understood. God that sounded like an attack, i mean you do you. No hate here.
@@Sandra_aschenbach_doyle You haven't seen his Holy Terror review then if you don't think that he's capable of very cutting critique of very horrible things, or his JLA/Avengers review if you don't think he can effectively explain why something is so awesome
Chubomik Z i’m not saying he couldn’t do that. I’m sure he’s perfectly capable of that. To me that makes the fact that most of his Videos are Motion Comics with Dad jokes and the same three Memes all the more sad to me.
sandra doyle I think you missed Evan’s point about how his content is pandered to his audience
Correction: i did like spoony. back when he made content.
i cant really hate linkara's movie, it's very genuine and i feel like everyone had a lot of fun making it. is it bad? yeah, but i wish i could have half the unbridled enthusiasm linkara has for his storylines for my own stuff. and i guess that sort of enthusiasm is rare and a little bit admirable too. i cant really make fun of it either for that reason.
Agreed. I think you have to take the low budget, unpolished cinematography, and uneven acting as part of the medium. The storylines aren’t even the main part of his weekly show. He’s far more polished and professional as a RUclips reviewer. The storylines are a fun sideshow.
@@calebmarmon1310 i agree as well. I just think the reason why people look back and cringe (best word i can think of) at storyline based review shows. Is the fact that people are not that fond of the CA style reviews anymore. And keeping in mind the ridiculousness of said storylines can possibly hinder someone's thoughts on it
This is coming from someone who also puts in storylines into his reviews.
I really love the Linkara love in the comments
The Masked Reviewer True. And while I’d argue that Linkara separates himself from the pack by aiming for some dramatic depth, clever writing (at least in concept), and continuity management, I was just as jaded and uninterested in his storylines when I first started watching him. It was only after realizing that he’d moved past the “nonsense for the sake of cheap references” stage that I started watching and enjoying them.
Also I’ll have to check out your reviews.
Oh it's bad, but it's absolutely harmless, and filled with so much earnest energy. I couldn't help but smile when I saw it.
all youtubers wanna pull a bo burnham
The shots this man fired at Shane Dawson after reviewing ‘Not Cool’ actually made me pause the video.
Like... damn 😂😂😅
Me too. I was like; hmmm, unexpected, but I'm glad someone finally said it.
Same, everyone seems to want to jump on defending Shane every time but nobody wants to point out the questionable stuff he's done. Glad someone did though.
@@AngelStarHealer I don't like Shane, and think he's fak af. but I've seen the questionable stuff brought up pretty damn often
You know, it's kinda sad that Lewis had stated multiple times he's doesn't care about films as much as he does for comics, and yet still managed to make a more enjoyable film than Doug ever did.(even if it is a so bad it's good way)
Doug never really cared about film. Doug cares about stroking his ego and making you think he's some sort of film expert.
god Doug has tanked his reputation. Remember when Doug was a respected content creator? I wonder if one day Quinton will be looked at in the same way we look at doug now
i'd say that makes him pretty unique. not meany youtubers out there that talk about comics and aren't garbage human beings.
What's better tho, the channel awesome movies or Lightbringer?
@@angrybrony based on stories I've heard from some of the channel awesome people it seems that Linkara, if not a garbage human being, is incredibly awkward to be around. He can be super condescending and also gets angry over the smallest things.
I honestly can't see myself being too hard on Linkara's storylines despite their flaws. They have a level of sincerity in them that you just don't see from blockbuster film productions, and it's clear that Linkara cares about and respects other reviewers who collaborate with him in a way that Doug never could.
say what you want about the whole lightbringer thing but at least he respectcts other reviewers
@@jadenbryant9283
Hasn't Linkara said a few times that he himself doesn't like Lightbringer and only leaves it up because he prefers to leave his "bad" works public instead of trying to bury it and pretend it never happened?
@@Jason_Altea well I was more talking about how he reacts when People mention it and make jokes out of it
@@jadenbryant9283
Ah, yeah that's fair. Haven't really kept up with what he's like outside of the reviews (haven't even watched those in a long time either), so I was just going off of my basic memory. Assumed people were trying to point to it as something to mock his writing for because I've seen that kind of thing way more often online than I should.
I really need a video essay exploring why anyone ever liked Doug walker…including myself
I think most people got into him through AVGN. Their content felt similar enough to where they attracted each other's audience (the only difference being that James is actually talented).
@@jmorales09 and probably has less skeletons in his closet.
I feel like, and this is me just shooting in the dark here as if I were making such an essay, is that he seemed different when he popped onto the scene (before a lot of current polished and stylized videos of superior quality came along) and his level of being that guy who seemed to start up movie reviews kept him at least as a relic with some authority. That being said, the signs were all there, especially as he began to be able to afford his yes men sidekick actors, very basic sets, and very basic editing programs (not even considering the whole game show controversy).
Regardless, I still think someone should really go in depth with it. If they weren't still going and likely rather touchy, I would love to see some small production do like an indie Ed Wood or Disaster Artist (but more like the book than the movie) type movie exploring Doug's ego trip to his current status.
Personally I had really enjoyed his content in the very early days (pre-To Boldly Flee) because at the time my interest in B-movies was really starting to develop, and while his content was god-awful as 'reviews', the fact he was basically just making abridged recaps of assorted B-movie classics made it really easy to get into. I recall even in those days I would frequently find myself fast-forwarding past Doug's awful skits and 'review' to get to the clips. From there I sort of jumped over to Spoony who was a bit more substantial as a reviewer and covered a wider range of things I liked, and then after Spoony... well, Spoonied, I moved on to RedLetterMedia which is leaps and bounds beyond even most modern reviewers in terms of content quality and expertise. More recently other ex-CA creators like Lindsay Ellis have also really gotten out from the NC shadow and make excellent review content that I enjoy quite a lot.
A lot of others I've talked to about Nostalgia Critic seem to have sort of a similar trajectory, coming to him initially from either AVGN or some other creator, and then using him as a leaping-off point to other better content they liked more. Considering how heavy NC was on crossovers, I imagine that probably accounts for a not insignificant portion of people that once "liked" Doug or the NC character.
I used to be subscribed to Angry Joe so the first time I discovered NC was when they did a crossover review for man of steel. I’ll admit I actually found him pretty funny and binged most of his other reviews. I don’t know if his humor got worse over time or if it just started to become stale to me but I eventually didn’t find him funny anymore. I honestly watch yourmoviesucks and ralphthemoviemaker now because not only are they more precise about why a movie failed but they’re also funnier and way more entertaining than Doug at this point in my opinion.
I think the reason why Linkara is a good youtuber is because he's always stayed genuine. Whenever Doug had a crossover, it always felt forced, and they were always below him, but when Lewis does it, it feels a lot more like him wanting to bring his friends in to have some fun. Doug forced people to adhere to his style and mannerisms as the Nostalgia Critic, but Lewis lets people behave and act how they would normally in their own videos.
He just released another set of videos that I think is actually really good (since they didn't need to actually film, it was just an audio drama).
Dude..60'000 is really not a lot of money for a movie. A lot of critics are talking about a low-budget movie when it only costs about a million. I mean, the movie looks really terrible, but at least he delivered (unlike doug's indiegogo with the terrible gameshow^^)
I was trying to figure out how much the movie might have actually cost (not knowing anything about film, just trying to get an idea) but I immediately realized I couldn't begin to guess. What equipment and props were bought and which did he already have, what locations did he have to pay to film at, who got paid and who volunteered, etc. Just paying for everybody's travel expenses would probably put a good dent in $60,000 by itself.
My favorite low budget movie still has a budget 4x that at 250k, and the effects are still really bad and a lot of the acting isn't great either.
People can do much more with a lot less. Like Primer, which had a $7000 but was done incredibly well
@@sciscs Primer also was a lot less...ambitious I guess you could say? They knew they couldn't afford a bunch of flash, so focused on a tight script. They stripped everything that they didn't need. Tiny cast, no set to speak of. Linkara wants to make a billion dollar comic book movie with 3 bucks and a shoelace.
Linkara is a really cool guy tbh and the cheesiness of his content reflects comics in this really fun way. Never saw his movie but it looked like it had the same charm.
Bee Casey he’s one of the few OG channel awesome members who actually seems like a normal, decent person.
Google Lightbringer
lol linkara is a nutcase
It's funny since i've seen pre 2000s Dr. Who episodes better than this...
It really does :)
You know you mention the budget of 60K but I don't really feel like its super unreasonable. Like on their Indiegogo they said it would be 10K for DVDs and another 10K for the online release which is basically just them making a profit. So that leaves 40K for the movie, there are 6 main actors assuming literally nothing else costs money and no one else gets paid that's $6,666 for each of them which is not crazy. Then you have to consider probably at least half of that had to go to other actors, and transportation costs, I highly double anyone walked away from this making more than a few thousand, and most of that money would have been simply compensating them for there time because acting isn't free. That was like half of the point of the shit Doug Walker got for his movies was making people work without being paid.
Linkara definitely cared a lot more for the people behind the film than Doug ever did.
Having worked on a low-budget movie and knowing people who have worked on low-budget movies, the $65K probably mostly went to transportation, housing and food for the cast and crew, and maybe paying a sound engineer/mixer
So basically "Atop the fourth wall" is Kingdom Hearts for Channel Awesome?
Jack Stuchbery In what way?
Eh.
Yup
@@DuelaDent52 Silly storylines connecting many properties owned by one conglomerate, inept dramatic writing, and... interesting voice acting. It should be known that Kingdom Hearts is pretty neat, and I hold both Atop the Fourth Wall and Kingdom Hearts in the highest respects.
Jack Stuchbery um ok😅
Just FYI for anyone interested; Alison (obscuruslupa) still makes great videos and reviews under the channel Movie Nights! :)
Her Baywatching series is incredible
Thanks! I actually had no idea she was still around, one of the few in that crowd I legit liked.
:)
@@blammowammo5886 :)
Great is a word I would not use.
Okay but, that line "You don't know what's it's like to stare at an angry god as it laughs at how small you are and then you stare right back at it and make it blink" is pretty metal
In Atop The Fourth Wall's lore, Linkara's reviews are incidental. All the threats he faces are far more important than reviewing comics.
In Nostalgia Critic's lore... there's absolutely nothing in the universe that's more important than Nostalgia Critic reviewing movies.
So we're not even halfway through the video and you're moving on to the final movie?
This gonna be good!
Excuse me, I believe it's spelled "dis gon be good"
@@Flowtail You're not the boss of me!
@@magicalgirlmel3289 you havent seen what ive seen, Across the Pages
@@Flowtail uh that's "dis gon b gud" to you good comrade
@@ilexdiapason excellent point friend, thank you!
I am Government Man. I'm from The Government. The Government has sent me.
My Government tastes delicious.
Hello government man
Get out of here Gir.
Has the same energy as "I am with the road crew. This is my stop sign."
AT4W is definitely a relic from a different era of internet review shows. Wheras Lindsay Ellis evolved into a more video essay format Linkara has stuck to the same MST3K style of review. Which I do enjoy in a comfortable sort of way.
But the thing is a few years back Linkara did a April Fools episode where he did a parody of Jim Sterling's show and the thing is, it's actually really damn good. Insightful, well written and actually did pretty well views wise as far as I can remember. Personally I'd love it if he switched to doing more of that content. He IS capable.
Agreed. I adore Linkara tbh. He's one of the few pieces of my childhood that I can still hold in rather high regard. His videos are corny as all hell, and I'd feel weird about introducing them to someone now, but they're very comforting and familiar to return to as a child of the late 2000s. He got me into comics, after all. And a number of his reviews, such as the ASBAR series, really hold up. I mean, they clearly stuck in people's minds; you can still in some comic circles refer to the characters of ASBAR as "Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson, Age 12" and plenty of people will get the reference. That said, I do honestly wish he'd do more videos like his April Fools video. His comics commentary is actually brilliant.
@@rachelhallie7483 His "History of Power Rangers" series does sometimes feel like it could become a video essay at any moment. Dude clearly has some solid researching and writing skills, but to most people on the internet, he's the guy that shoots comics with a toy gun.
If you want to know where the money went for the AT4W movie it’s literally all on the screen. The money went to paying the actors, transportation, renting out places to do the filming, catering, and making and distributing DvDs. Say what you will about Lewis he’s not Doug
Quinton: "MarzGurl confronts him about his inability to act..."
Wow, sudden bit of honesty there?
Quinton: "...in the face of danger."
Oh.
Mechakara: Got any last words before I delete them from my memory banks?
Linkara: Yeah, Bees.
Mechakara: Bees?
*_b e e s i n t e n s i f i e s_*
"Bees, my God"-Batman
honestly the handlebar looks really good on you. not everyone can rock it, but Quinton can.
Don't lie to this poor man
@@christianturley1701 dont lie to yourself
the "Shane Dawson Gets Engaged Days After Cut Cumming Controversy" headline is so funny out of context
dear god the body horror genre is getting explicit on youtube
True Story: Linkara went to my high school. This is proven by the fact he's wearing a sweatshirt of that school's speech team(of which I was also on) as well as a picture of him in our trophy case. I was a massive fan of his and my junior year of high school(right after the movie came out) I wrote a fan sequel to his "film." And I can guarantee you that my high school fan draft would've turned out just as well as the final product
Holy shit, that must've been quite the mindfuck
I used to follow someone on twitter who went to the same high school as Doug, lol
I went to the same high school as the Demartino twins. Not that I'm proud of it, its just a fact.
I've been a fan of Linkara since I was 12 and still am at 23. He got me into comics, and the first comic I ever bought is signed by him. Is his storyline stuff cheesy? Hell yeah. I honestly don't follow his skit stuff that much. But his reviewing is still solid (don't believe me, check out the ASBAR reviews. The delivery of "Batman, agent of NAMBLA" still gets me after all these years). It's an outdated style, yes, but when he hits he makes seriously good content. And the point still stands that for a comics-based channel, which is by nature niche, he still has a very strong following. I think part of the fun of his content is that the silly stuff is played so seriously.
It makes me happy to see so many sticking up for him and his movie in the comments. Linkara in my opinion is a relic of the late 2000s internet in much the same way Doug is, but one that many of us still look at fondly. Hell, watch any Backissues episode (a much newer and on-trend show) of a comic he's reviewed and you'll get references to him in the comments.
Linkara doesn't get nearly enough credit for the humour in his reviews. And heck, AVGN also makes heavy use of cheesy After Effects scenes and made an entire movie with them, yet he doesn't get the same criticism.
The best thing about donating to Linkara's Indiegogo was that I got to see my name in a Quinton Reviews video.
Better linkara than lazer team
Seeing that beard, there was a true moment of fear as I felt "Dear LORD it's actually SPREADING!"
Good gag, but also horrifying.
Good thing the end product was endlessly sexy
that shane dawson shade added 5 years to my life thank u
13:11 The "No Channel Awesome movies" stipulation was a masterful red herring, my dude.
The things Linkara makes are so earnest and dumb and cheesy. How can you not love it? It's not good, but it looks fun! And how can you not want to be part of something or make something that cheesy, dumb, and fun? I love the Atop the 4th Wall Movie. And as a nerd, how can you NOT want to do the kinds of things that Linkara does? Working Pokeballs and lazer guns? Real Cybernats and Sonic Screwdrivers? It's corny and dumb, but I would love to have the ability to play in a world like that.
If you ever do this again, may I recommend Lazer Team? The movie RoosterTeeth made starring two of the Achievement Hunters (gamers, not actors) and one of the company's founders? It's not very good. But it too is fun and dumb and kinda encapsulates how much RoosterTeeth wants to grow and be taken seriously.
Also does Who Killed Markiplier count as a movie? It probably would be considered a short film, I guess if you put all the parts together. Because Who Killed Markiplier is also a lot of an ego trip but it's also... Not bad. It's certainly different from the rest of the RUclips movies I've seen and seen reviews of.
ManiacsWorld he should do the KSI movie
Or it's just pure cringe
I was so confused in the first minute of this video
AT4W and it's movie is goofy and probably objectively terrible... but they have a lot of passion and charm that overcomes any failures and had me invested all the way. The movie in particular feels like a bunch of friends got together and had fun, which made it enjoyable to watch.
It's like the Sonic Adventure games in a way. Flawed but fun and engaging.
It's like if you made the channel awesome specials, but like they actually are as genuine and heartfelt as it seems.
The slowly growing bald spot made me think I was losing my mind
"It’s the ultimate secret desire of most RUclipsrs that one day if we work hard enough and make something ultimately good enough for mainstream audiences, we’ll be able to stop being Youubers."
We are now in a hipster YA movie about how Troye Sivan made it out of the internet slums
I would love to hear your reviews of films by RUclipsrs with ACTUAL filmmaking talent, like Lover, or Arctic from MysteryGuitarMan.
Holy shit, Arctic was made by a RUclipsr? It hasn't come to my theater yet, but I've been hyped about it for months.
@@jmorales09 yeah! MysteryGuitarMan does some great stuff, and he had one of the biggest channels on the site back around 2010
@@jmorales09 or quest for the gamechild
Ashens and the quest for the game child anyone?
Or Space Cop
It's really terrifying to think of the fact that if you die you go through all of the Nostalgia Critic intros and you hear in the distance is "Melvin Melvin brother of the Joker"
Why would you be terrified of Heaven?
7:06 "Kentucky. You know, you're allowed to have sex with your dog there?"
This line has aged... poorly.
@Ryan Jones the guy saying that line allegedly had sex with his cat.
LINKARA and his friends were just making a movie for fun with a shit budget. I wouldn't roast it too hard.
60 thousand dollars
@@jeniferjoseph9200 That's really low budget if you consider all of these people were paid. Who knows about flights etc. It looks like a shitty movie but I just feel like ripping on it is the equivalent of shitting on your friend who is trying to get into painting and isn't very good but does it for fun.
Sixty grand is apparently a shit budget.
If your friend is bad at painting, they’re gonna need to know eventually
I should note that most of the budget went into renting a warehouse to place sets and film there. I think he stated the original idea was to save costs by filming at Doug's studio, but Mike Michaud refused to let them film there. So, yeah it's kinda Mike's fault(what a shock)
That opening was pretty creative, caught me off guard at first
Edit: you know what? Vivid memories turn to fantasies was used well.
I have been watching your videos non stop for like a day now. You somehow manage to say like atleast one thing per video where I go "well shit why did it take quinton directly telling me this". Idk what happened but you somehow turned into my favorite youtuber.
probably the most well earned and executed roast of Shane Dawson I've seen
last video: "quinton your beard has a patch"
next video: *shaves beard in sections*
Quinton: No channel awesome!
Less than halfway through: the rest the video is about channel awesome
Thumbs up just for the Dollar Shave gag alone.
Oh... and your content is good too...
When all is said and done, $60,000 for any two-hour movie (let alone one with lots of characters and effects and costumes) is basically less than peanuts. That movie looks *exactly* what I'd expect from $60,000.
Could you take a look at Ashens and the quest for the gamechild, if you were to do this again?
Probably not because it's good.
@@psycho_dog33 It's not like critique is exclusively meant for bad things or anything. I'm sure there are things to be learned from what that or any given work does right.
@@blarg2429 I know, it was a joke.
I think Brandon Rogers is a RUclipsr who actually has chance of being a filmmaker
Please keep dragging Shane Dawson and reminding people that while he's "not as bad as" he was when he first started doing RUclips, he still partakes in shady shit, and trying to side-step it with this phony innocent, wholesome facade.
the quieten movie is gonna be great
i hope it starts with a 30 minute explanation of what a movie is and how they were first made
I watched this whole video having misunderstood that Not Cool was made in 2014. (I know next to nothing about Shane Dawson.) I thought it was at least 4-5 years older than that, would’ve even placed it mid-2000s, based on how desperate, clumsily raunchy, and clueless it is.
Also Shane looks so much younger than the limited exposure I’ve had to him. I think it’s because, as Quinton describes, he’s apparently changed so much over the course of his fame. Also, I think of him as an Onision counterpart, and I was aware of his “fame” from his meme-y moment on Tosh.O, so I run them together in time.
Realizing Not Cool was made in 2014 - which to me at my age exists both as recent memory and ancient history - was just really jarring. Time and relativity is getting more and more fucked up and twisted as I get older.
Exactly! The messed up thing is that behind the scenes, people wanted him to remove some of the jokes because they were insensitive but he acted like a spoiled toddler and refused to remove anything.
Something awakened in my loins when I saw that majestic ‘stache 👀
meggjhow I had a feeling like that once in my loins, turn out that feeling is called Chlamydia.
Tom Dongerson underrated comment
I am disgusted yet intrigued
king potato so are my loins 😂
So glad it's not just me xD
in this video we see the full evolution of Quinton turning into a dip eating trucker
and then suddenly into Ned Flanders if he had a hulk hogan mustache
I literally thought Shane Dawson and Onisian were the same person.
I have to say: "Are there any final words before I promptly delete them from my memory?" is a pretty good line.
Also the premise of the chair is that the two directors had use the same script. They were both allowed to change it but they had the same starting point and couldn’t change the basic premise
Actual member of the AT4W film production crew here. I was a general production helper, I drove much of the cast to/from the studio every day, and I was Pollo in a couple of scenes (including part of the scene where he has the conversation with MarzGurl). I can attest to the production running incredibly well, being treated well, and Lewis actually gave a crap about people keeping their characters consistent. If something he wrote contradicted what one of the actors would typically do, it was changed.
22:51 30:07 these riffs actually made me laugh my ass off.
Ralphthemoviemaker is the only RUclipsr with the potential to make great movies, and that's only because he started off as a filmmaker.
Mysteryguitarman would like a word.
@Lucas Cendron The Woods? Cinematic masterpiece
@@expendableindigo9639 Ok Mysteryguitarman has made successful films
But my main point is that the best RUclips filmmakers are the ones that are filmmakers before they were RUclipsrs
Wilo Polis Yeah, it was just a joke.
@@expendableindigo9639 Ah ok
Woooooosh
one thing i kind of have to respect linkara for is that he gets it? like he doesnt get anything from making the story parts and knows thats not what most people watch him for so he puts it the end of the videos like reviewing comics is his job and making the skits is a hobby
The nostalgia critic was so damn negative that I never got into him. When he reviewed Hocus Pocus and called it terrible I was over him
Ah the early era of RUclips emo haircut
You telling me Lanipator was in this????
Shocking, I know.
It was a fun time working on it haha 😁
I love how you presented this video as "youtube movies but no channel awesome" and then literally 2/3rds of the video is just one channel awesome movie.
Like it's literally long and paced enough to be its own separate video and instead its almost like a surprise! This is actually what the video is about! I love it
The beard being casually fading away was lowkey genius.
Fun Fact: The person who played Tori in Not Cool also voiced Shana in Funimation's English dub of seasons 2 and 3, the movie, and the S OVAs of Shakugan no Shana.
There's gotta be a part 2. The AVGN movie, the Nostalgia Critic movies, etc.
Is the AVGN movie any bad
@@bigpenny8223 eh, it's weird. It has a lot of charm, and it's obviously a passion project from James Rolfe, but it's not a good representation of the AVGN series
Riain Biehle is it better then at4w the movie
@@bigpenny8223 I'd say so. Mostly cuz AT4W the movie seems like a longer RUclips vid, while the AVGN movie feels like a movie and an AVGN episode.
oh boy the shane dawson bit aged well
you are the only reviewer i know who can perfectly integrate a Neil Cicierega mashup into their work, a+++ 10/10 would Bees again
I'm not a fan of Linkara, but I liked his movie, I've just finished watching it. Never forget what it is: a low-budget internet movie. For what it is, it has good effects, good dialogues, not too many pointless pop cultural references (looking at you, NC...), and decent acting for amateurs (I was especially surprised by Nash). I don't think it deserves all those negative reviews. Is everyone comparing this to high-budget Hollywood productions??
The after credits scene in the AT4W Movie where The Cinema Snob forces the cast of the movie to watch Salo did get a pretty big laugh out of me
Ah yes... The Atop the Fourth Wall movie. Made when every personality felt like they had to make a movie about their fictional critic character just because The Angry Video Game Nerd did it. There was Atop the Fourth Wall, The Cinema Snob made a movie (which I actually owed a DVD of before eventually throwing it out,) Spoony announced that he was making a movie and never made it, and I'm pretty sure about half of the contributors to That Guy With The Glasses/Channel Awesome at least announced a movie if not filmed it. I'm also pretty sure that Angry Video Game Nerd movie isn't all that great either.
Nolan from The Pizza Party Podcast suggested the Linkara , who would've saw that coming. 😁👌
This is the absolute best Dollar Shave ad I've ever seen
Hol up....there was a human-shaped metal skeleton under the android body, under the flesh mask?
I need to watch this movie
I like the thought of Quinton filming a tiny bit, getting up and shaving a bit, then filming a tiny bit, getting up and shaving a bit, and go on.
Imagine if he looked over the fottage and realised one of the parts needed to be reshot and the whole bit was ruined
nash and allison were absolutely the best part of the atop the fourth wall movie tbh? they had scant scenes where they were central but they were incredibly enjoyable. nash's "i. i want a spaceship :c" bits and wild confusion at joe having lightning hands was kind of hard not to smile at.
the thing that gets me too is i drop in and out of following atop the fourth wall? like i'm someone who never sticks with the continuity because i view it so rarely and quit for so long at a time. but still the important detail of that movie is that linkara actually fucking made sure the characters of the other content creators were matched to their actual personalities instead of just. "casual rape scene goes here" like doug.
Kurt Angle yelling “Is he stalking you?!” In Not Cool (Yes, I just watched it like 6 minutes ago) is the highlight of the movie.
Mad props to Quinton for that beard gag, mans got balls of steel
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Why did I think the government guy from AT4W *was Quinton* for like a solid minute??
As a white 15 year old I appreciated the Office reference
AND THEN YOU FROZE
That is the funniest line delivery ever
24:34
"Do you believe in God?"
Not after watching this, no.
love how the ONLY clip of the cinema snob you got was a (RUS SUB) version, it really kinda is nostalgic for them days