(ENG) BMW 2 Series Active Tourer - Test Drive and Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- BMW 2 Series Active Tourer F45 is the first minivan made by the Bavarians, and the first front wheel drive BMW. And to make things more interested, it is based on the UKL platform it shares with the new MINI.
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Nice practical review. Especially specifying your height and the setting of the front seat
I have an identical model myself. Comfortable & practical for everyday use.
New Subscriber. This car is awesome. Cool video. Thanks for posting.
Great review!
im gona subscribe just because i like ur personality, i dont know why
I got the LCI version 220i and despite it's flaws it's a great car - i can see that even more as trying the find a car to replace it (due to it's flaws) is proving very very difficult as it's great all-round package in such a small vehicle and very under-rated.
Flaws: Large A-pillar view restrictions; A/C controls situated low in the dash; SE/Lux seats lacking body support; brakes have a large "dead zone" before they feel like they're working; SE & Adaptive [in comfort mode] exhibits too much body sway and underdampened after 30K miles (like most BMW suspensions...) - adaptive in Sport mode is too harsh and u can't select it to be stiff in Comfort mode but u can have it soft in Sport; "Sport" steering wheel for SE/Luxury/Sport models is thin and hard but at least leather; run-flat tyres on larger wheel sizes [comfort].
Positives: 220i model is quick and the DCT sports gearbox is punchy making the car feel quick & sporty(ish) particularly with it's relative light kerb-weight ; steering precise (although softer suspensions make the body-height sap this a tad); fuel economy actually isn't bad; good boot space for a car that's the size of a hatchback - it's not really a mini-van but more of a 'Golf-Plus' type car, the bigger 2er Gran Tourer is the "Sportsvan" and you can option picnic trays in that one; even more boot space if u have the sliding rear-bench; small exterior size makes it hand around town; electric tailgate; it looks okay; easy to read & use info-tainment system; heated seats; despite lack of upper-body support the SE cloth seats are very comfortable and the seat heating works better with these than the leather ones, IMO; LED headlights are bright with decent footprint (better than the 3-series of the day!); Standard 6-speaker sound system is actually good and gives better bass response than i would've guessed!; AM/FM/DAB radio works fine and no issues with bluetooth phone pairing and USB music library; Voice input for sat nav worked first-time; Park Assist can parallel park the car itself; loads of other options available as is the BMW way but useful ones like heated steering wheel, larger 60L fuel tank, folding mirrors, lumbar support, etc - too many to list [yes u pay more...]; but it feels well but together and premium. I like the twin exhaust pipes.
Personally if i were to spec it again i'd have the M-Sport 220i for the M-Sport suspension, sports seats, M-Sport steering wheel and Estoril Blue metallic paint.
But more people might like the X1 as it's basically the same car with more boot space, A/C controls in the right place, less a-pillar blockage - but it's a little bigger & heavier. Or the X2 coz it's more sporty. Don't worry about the newer 1-Series as it's too small and looks dumpy :-D
nice revieuw Marek
very good review !
great !! congratulations
Belated appreciation for this review, Marek. I'm looking for something a bit plusher to replace my Honda Jazz, and the fact that you are exactly the same height as me is useful, because if you fit, I fit!
Glad I could help!
BTW, this is much more fun to drive, than the Jazz. That being said, the current Jazz is a very good car too.
@@MarekDrives Yeah, I have considered the new hybrid 4th gen you reviewed in July last year.
What put you off?
@@MarekDrives Nothing really, Marek, but my mk3 Jazz is a bit noisy and the torque is hopeless. I know the mk4 is a bit better, so I may still end up going for one.
I have bought a second hand car of the same model
Very practical car and sporty
I am very happy with it
What year and what version did you get? 225i, 220i ? How do you find the driving position?
@@SosetaFurioasaJr it was 218d i AM 165 tall and i find a perfecto drive positivo. The Unique problem is visibility with double a pillar
@@fernandof4315 Thanks for the reply! Is the seating position tall? I currently own a w169 2008 a class and I love the seating position, it's like a van, tall and nice. Also, do you feel you have enough power from the engine? The cars weighs 1600 kg...
@@fernandof4315 i recently bought this car and agree with you. The double a pillar is a blind spot and can be dangerous.
+W65B61S Their claims are not false. It's the official fuel efficiency test that's out of date, because it does not take into account contemporary traffic conditions. Car manufacturers have to meet emission standards set by the regulators, so they do everything they can to make the car pass the fuel economy/emissions test. Under certain conditions the car will probably deliver promised fuel economy, but it rarely has anything to do with real-life driving situations.
+Marek Drives my consumption over 2.500 km is 8,7, but i am mainly driving in town area and short distances. max was 11 liters, in town, min. 7.1 on country road and autobahn.
I kinda like the analogy at the end.
the picnic table is an option in the BMW 2 Series, like all the other goodies
4 years later question: probably this model is at the end of it’s life, but still: would you still buy a new 2 series Active Tourer decently speced, or a new fully equiped 2019 Suzuki Vitara? Both automatics.
As of because of now they have the same price, with a massive 13k euro discount from BMW for the 2 series :)
I believe whoever buys a 2 series active tourer at full price is definitely not interested in a brand like Suzuki. However, if you compare a 2015 50k mileage 225i or 220i with a 2018-2019 Vitara I am inclined to get the BMW due to the premium quality in materials and bigger engine with the same or even better consumption. Suzuki has an advantage with the allgrip but if you don't frequent country roads then it is rather useles...
Which colour is this? Looks different in the snow.
this picnic table is so undesigned in many cars ! looks like bus seat place
Hi Marek.
How do you find the 18d motor to move that chassis?Was it quick and agile enough?Or sometimes you needed an extra power or torque?
regards,
I don't think I'd need more power or torque in this type of car. Especially not in the winter. I was pleasantly surprised with how BMW-ish it felt despite FWD. Good package. I'd like to try it with a 3-cylinder engine.
I've same car. I want change original 16" rims. I'm still undecide to change with 17"or 18"'. Any advice? :)
I have one of these in UK. You can fold the seats from the boot. Not sure why the one tested in this video does not have this feature.
It could have been either an early production car or (if memory serves me right) this could have been an option that wasn't specified on this example. Remember this is a premium brand, so they are likely to charge you for everything but the steering wheel :)
Ver y nice,,auto sweet
Do rear seats recline? How is the sound insulation going 80 km/h, 110 km/h? I understood you indicating bmw advantages like advanced steering feel, better cornering (less rolling) and premium feel in the cabin. How would you compare Golf sportsvan vs 2 series active tourer in these categories: 1. Ride comfortable (less road surface feeling) in other words softer ride (having in mind same tire height) 2. Road and wind noise doing 80 / 110 / 130 km/h in the cabin, water splashing under the tire - also showing the car sound insulation quality.
Aside of this review. . . I am one of the fans of your channel, and want to point out that most reviews on youtube miss the information I asked - which would be good mentioning as you usually have already done reviews on different models competing in the same class. I am sure you can measure road noise level with simple equipment, and ride quality (this is more difficult) - well you can use one of the cameras without shock absorbers in different reviews and so we can see how it is shaking on different roads and different speed or simply give some mark from 1 to 5 . . .
Another idea would be if you would take some footage of onboard computer readings doing lets say 90 and 130 speed showing us the actual consumption - which would be very objective talking about fuel consumption. Or taking to another level - during the review of lets say BMW 2 series AT you could indicate parallel let say Golf SV same speed consumption readings doing same speed. I understand you should have similar weather conditions and use almost same route for comparison details. I think this information is left out in reviews, which is easy to get. Sometimes too much time is spent showing storage and rear seat space (also important) but I think you could take it to the next level. If I am watching youtube reviews looking for help choosing my next car - these points are very important. I know there are special comparison reviews, but there little of them. Taking 4-5 criterion and crossing them with competition models would be very informative.
Good luck with your future reviews.
Do rear seats recline? ---- No.
How is the sound insulation going 80 km/h, 110 km/h? ---- Poor, especially for a premium segment car.
How would you compare Golf sportsvan vs 2 series active tourer in these categories: 1. Ride comfortable (less road surface feeling) in other words softer ride (having in mind same tire height) ---- SV feels a bit more vague in general.
2. Road and wind noise doing 80 / 110 / 130 km/h in the cabin, water splashing under the tire - also showing the car sound insulation quality. ---- I don't have data do tell you exactly.
I am sure you can measure road noise level with simple equipment... ---- Yes, I should have a proper webpage with all data in a table for comparison, but I'm doing this all by myself, and the week has only 7 days ;)
ride quality (this is more difficult) - well you can use one of the cameras without shock absorbers in different reviews and so we can see how it is shaking on different roads and different speed or simply give some mark from 1 to 5 . . . ---- Not very scientific.
Another idea would be if you would take some footage of onboard computer readings doing lets say 90 and 130 speed showing us the actual consumption - which would be very objective talking about fuel consumption. ---- To do this properly I should have a test runway, flat, do a couple of runs in every direction, compensate for wind, etc. This is something that requires a great deal of measurements. This is how it's done properly, and it requires a lot of people and a lot of gear. ruclips.net/video/5J1ICrK36RI/видео.html
Or taking to another level (....) Taking 4-5 criterion and crossing them with competition models would be very informative. ---- Like I said above, it's not very scientific. It would be instantly criticised (and rightly so). The best I can do is drive the cars along similar routes in a similar manner. When I talk about real life mixed fuel economy results, they are based on my experience. In 80 percent of the cases I do similar milage on similar routes, and this is the closest to relatively consistent results I can get.
Thanks for this comment. I realise different people want different things from car reviews. In comments under one of the recent reviews I was criticised for not focusing enough on how practical is the interior of a car ;)
There is only so much information I can put into a review and keep the viewers interested. I'd love to do proper telemetry, but there's only so much I can do on my own.
@@MarekDrives Your review was very nice! Thank you. You can't please everybody especially when you are a 1 man show. Also I loved the phone comparison at the end, very smart, haha! Unfortunately not many people understand that both phones do the same basic features, it's all down to the small details and ultimately, budget.
Hi,
do you have any plans to test Kia Ceed?
Yes, I do, buy I can't tell you when. I'm waiting for a new press car to be delivered.
I would like to know what kind of automatic gearbox is in that car cvt ,torq converter,dsg ,semi automatic etc
steptronic if it helps you
Between this car or the VW Golf Sportsvan for a family with young kids, what would you recommend? Thanks
BMW is more fun to drive, but like I said at the end: both are good. It's a matter of your budget. Also check maintenance pricing with your local dealers. Personally I also take into account where's the nearest service station in relation to my house and work. When I drop the car for service, I like to take a walk, rather than order a cab.
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The main difference between an Android and iPhone when it comes to BMW is the fact that wireless charging is possible only for Android for now. I thought that this is what you want to specify between the 2 brands... The relevancy of an iPhone being a Premium brand is slightly less these days since iPhone makes less performant phones than the flagship (let's say iPhone 7 Plus) and the spread is also bigger over different screen sizes and models (i.e. iPhone 5C,5S).
AFAIK Apple doesn't have wireless charging. You need a special case. Like for most of Android phones.
Marek.. Biggest problem i find with your revewes compared to others is that you mostly have examples of cars loaded with equipment... Most of the people wont put adaptive suspension on this thing
I dont say you should use base model but sth more average
So it's not a problem with my reviews, but a problem with press fleet in Poland :)
And yes, I've spoken to BMW and car companies on numerous occasions about it, but they say "we want to showcase the best we have, because if media don't talk about options you can have on our cars, nobody is going to know about them, and buy them".
If you watch my recent BMW M3 review, I even address this issue in the opening line.
ruclips.net/video/b7n8Bms9W6Q/видео.html
Hm... I get it.. All you said makes sense.
Thanks for a reply!
Wow, you telling this car delivers ~8l/100km? When do the car makers stop making false fuel consumption these days..
Is this a 2wd or Xdrive??
This particular example is FWD, but xDrive is available with some engine variants.
Where is the x4 review??? :/
DonWolfo I'm not satisfied with the stuff I filmed a couple of months ago during the launch event, and I didn't arrange for a proper test drive yet. But the new X6 is coming relatively soon.
White interior ordered by a non children household!!😱
why do we see so many cars with a polish (or slowenian) number plate?
+Billi Backer Because it's filmed in Poland.
Marek Drives i know that. my question is: WHY. is ist a clkip that has different commentaries in different languages for different countries? if yes, why wasn´t the clip made in BMW country germany
Billi Backer I'm from Poland. I'm filming in two languages to get more reach, and to actually make some money. AdSense revenue for Polish films is about a quarter of what I get for films in English. Why not focus solely on the English version then? I have to keep local PR happy to get test cars.
+Marek Drives Ja tez jestem Polko
+Billi Backer stupid mob
That last 40s resumes the client that is going to buy the car.
Your comparison between the Android phone and an iPhone doesn't really work. They're both top of the line phones, and Android allows you to do more, so if anything the Android phone would be the BMW. iPhones may feel more premium in the hand because they use more metal, but that's also what makes them bendable and far less durable than the competition.
It's as a good a metaphor as I could come up with. VW costs a lot less, and is more practical, so I guess it's more or less, what you said ;)
Marek Drives You still don't get WHY your metaphor is completely wrong. If the iPhone is a BMW (or Mercedes), Android would be the VW Group, which includes not only the cheaper VW (and even cheaper Seat or Škoda), but also Audi, which is in the same league as BMW and Mercedes, and even more expensive, luxurious and/or exotic brands like Bentley, Lamborghini and Porsche.
Next time just stick to your field of knowledge, which apparently is automobiles.
***** At least my phone doesn't bend from just being in my pocket.. and never lost signal because of the way I held it, and lets me put whatever apps I want on it, not just a curated list of apps, and allows me to use NFC any way I want, and has a pressure sensitive stylus, and allows me to completely change the look of the UI without jailbreaking or rooting. I could go on, but I think it's clear you're just an iOS fanboy, and everyone knows iOS is for the tech-illiterate. ;-)
Kev50027 I do not think so, the comparison was great. iPhone is more premium and gives you a perfect user experience out of the box.
***** I have to disagree. First of all, the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge is undoubtedly more premium than the iPhone 6, and your comment about a perfect experience out of the box doesn't mean anything. You can get a "perfect" experience out of the box from an Android phone too.. in fact, for many years Android was a better experience out of the box because you never needed to connect it to a computer to activate it.
Apple fixed that issue and it's better than it was, but iOS is still really just Palm OS from the 90's with some lipstick on.
No real widgets and very little customization means that iOS is based on a menu of apps, while Android allows you to do whatever you want with it. Of course if you wanted to, you could just leave it the way it is out of the box and be fine, but the added ability to change things around is what makes Android stand out.
damned, another diesel wher is a review with the 218i 3cyl...
+Billi Backer The 3-cylinder is a good engine. Check out my MINI Copper review. That's the same engine. ruclips.net/video/S1f5A5hADRU/видео.html
+Marek Drives wow that was fast :)
but really: you see the 220i, the 218d the 216d and the 225i, but no one makles a test wit the 218... check out yourself
Billi Backer Press fleets are stocked with what a carmaker expects (or wants) to be the bestseller. In many cases if I had the choice, I'd take the base model. But often I don't have a choice.
Marek Drives i´ve tested the 218i 3cyl, and i would like to know what professional car testers think about it. i thought it was just ok, no need for the 4th cylinder
Billi Backer That's what I said in the MINI review. It's the same engine. It's pretty good.
the comparison between the android and apple phone don't work at all.
I always had trouble with funny error messages, strange handling and apps not working at the android. so i had had to switch to apple.
The VW will have the same quality as the BMW. Very Intuitive handling and even more space. I guess knowing VW is will have better views out and thoughtful details.
It's more about the money you got to spend to get this premium feel.
I like the interior from the BMW very much, but the back looks like many of the japanese cars now.
8 litres per 100km? Damn, my VW Passat 2008 (125 kW) 169hp consumes 6.5 litres per 100km, I don't think this BMW is that economical.
+Charlles Pereira Costa there is more with a car than only economy: it is emotion, too. i know the 218i is rather espensive, but it is always a pleasure when i start a ride. it is great to drive on a curvy country road. the steering is fantastic, the motor really good,.i like the design. what more should i want....
Mine is making 4,8 liters its a 216d and I really hate driving it. Its my 5th BMW by now and i bought it because of the kids (previous one was a e92 not pratical with children) I must say the engine is good enough but the review is not truthful the steering is not precise you don't get feedback from the road or from what the wheels are doing, it leans a lot in corners and has lots of under-steering.
Is it a better driver then most common FDW cars we see in the road? absolutely! But it lacks everything that has made me love BMW's so far. It has no soul. I am glad you like yours and wish you good luck with it i'm going to exchange mine for a Touring as soon as i can.
SagothBaal I like this car and I am buying the Grand Tourer 7 seats. I like more FWD, in Finland the RWD is a nightmare when is icy ⛐ and sleepery.
I agree on the BMW, but I disagree on the Iphone crap. I also disagree on the comparison of the two.
45000 Euros? too expensive, I prefer Android phone
Obviously, if you could afford it then it wouldn't be expensive and get it, and also get an iphone... :)))
When you are reviewing a car, show the car NOT YOUR FACE 80% OF THE TIME, its the same mistake all reviewer made in RUclips!
Based on the script I can tell you my face is visible no more, than 50 percent of the time in this video. Agreed, it is till too much, and in more recent episodes it's down to about 40 percent.
I would never buy a front wheel drive BMW.
You just got a thumb down because using iphone vs. android example in a wrong way
I think most people understand the point he was trying to make, so no need to make a big deal out of it.
And a thumb up from me comparision is corect!