I have the V Star 1300 (the Stryker uses the powertrain from the 1300 with a one-tooth different front pulley) I got new in '08. These are bulletproof drivetrains, with many >100,000 mile bikes still on the road. They are overbore engines, so they like more RPMs than the typical V-twin: pulls strong up to the 6,300 RPM rev limiter, while most of the pushrod Vs are tapped out by 5,500. My bike topped out around 132 with only a cold air induction and drilled factory exhaust. Since I added V&H pipes, a fuel controller, and taller rear tire, it's a 140 MPH machine. 1/4 mile is around 12.5 seconds (adjusted for sea level), so they are surprising for an economical full-size cruiser with only 80 cubic inches that gets nearly 50 MPG. Raider is great looking, but for reliability and value- without sacrificing performance- my nod is for the Stryker.
I love my Stryker. I wasn't afraid of the Raider, I just thought it was overkill. The Stryker looks great and runs great, and I commute on it throughout the week and tear it up on the twisty mountain roads on the weekends. Love it.
My wife and I test drove both the Raider and the Stryker, we bought 2 raiders. Awesome Bikes. She went from a 650 to the Raider, I went from an 1100 to the Raider. Never looked back.
Both are awesome bikes. If you are an exoerienced rider it would be a matter of choice. Stykers are 1300 (80 cu.in) with the speedo on the bars and are liquid cooled. Raiders are 1900 (113 cu.in) aircooled with the speedo on the tank. They both pull hard when you want them to. I think they handle the same which is amazingly good considering the rake. But Yamaha designed it that way. Yamahas transmissions can't be beat. They shift nice with a definitie "rap" into gear that is smooth and yet deliberate. The Raider seeming a little bit more refined. You can't go wrong with either bike. Additionally, I do want to point out that though the Stryker has lower displacement, by being liquid cooled it generates a lot of power. The air cooled Raider has the beef to back it up... But in the heat of the summer... Sitting at a stop light on a Raider, you can definitely feel the "hot" blooded beast that makes you want that light to turn quick. Lol
I have a 2017 Stryker, and it is a badass machine. Can't believe Yamaha stopped making them. Not a fan of their new lineup, but I'll keep my Stryker for the rest of my life so it doesn't matter to me, I guess.
Videos don't do these bikes justice! You need to see one in person to really appreciate the size of these monsters! Truly a work of art for a factory bike.
Yamaha 1300 engine is just amazing. Blows all other engines of similar cc away. That being said, the raider 1900 is just a monster. You do the Ivan's tune, and it's unbelievable.
It's crazy how fast my taste in motorcycles have changed in just like 5 years. I used to loathe cruisers and nakeds, now they're my favorite. Next year I'm gunna be all about a touring bike. Or an adventure bike!
Own a 2011 Stryker, handful of mods...gotta say, my absolute favorite bike. It just looks so good and has great power. I have forward controls and that little bit of extra stretch makes all the difference for any sort of long hauls. Would love to own a raider for weekend rides though. Great video!
Heck yeah! The strykers are pretty awesome bikes for sure! A lot more comfortable than they may appear to be. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
i bought the Yamaha Stratoliner S Model with the added chrome and absolutely love it! Same engine as the Raider but i believe its geared and tuned different and thats what gives it a little more power (someone please correct me if im wrong about that) but whenever i do get another bike im definitely getting a Raider. These bikes are so dependable and honestly they all 3 look Amazing! And you can't beat the power these things are putting out while having the unique looks they do. I highly recommend all 3 of these Yamahas. I love Harleys as much as the next person but i'll take these on the long rides over a Harley anyday.
Just brought a Stryker after recommendations for you Jon after you gave me your thoughts on a warrior , Stryker and Boulevard 109 R . Compared to my VStar 650 its like a V8 muscle car , sounds great ,looks good ( ordered some low and mean parts as soon as i got home ) Let a work mate who just recently road a night train 1800 kms ride it and give me his thoughts and he was absolutely blown away Ive only ever ridden my 2018 Vstar 650 and my wifes 2023 Vulcan S 650 so i didnt have much to compare it to in terms . Needless to say i was pleasantly surprised with his response but it did get me wondering watching your reviews on the Boulevard and Warrior how fast those things must be. Think I'll try and test ride those out of curiosity Would love a Raider but can't get one in Aus Keep up the great channel and by the way I never really knew much about Japanese cruisers but after watching your channel and SKR Cycles can honestly say im glad i do now . Excellent bang for your buck - saved me thousands on buying a Harley
I just got myself an '08 Raider S. Oh my GOD! She's dragon that should have been left slumbering. She came with a full exhaust swap and Cobra power commander chip. As well as a sexy fat 240 rear tire. She ROARS, GRIOS, and RIPS! It feels as if I'd look back and see her throwing asphalt. I'm in love! Coming from my old Yamaha Bolt makes her seem only meaner. 😎
Three seasons with it and I’m still in love with it. Me and the Raider will stick together for a very long time. I have the 2008 and will buy a younger one next year or in two years. I’m sad that they stopped to do it because it’s a bike apart. It’s a master stroke from Yamaha. And I love so much the stock pipes, I don’t want to change them. The only thing that annoying me is the sewing machine sound.
As far as I know the Yamaha Stryker was not an EU model, and so probably never officially imported by Yamaha EU in to the EU (I could be wrong though). We did have the Yamaha BT1100 Bulldog, which, again, is a typical European bike designed for the European continent, and who knows maybe was available in different locations across the globe as well. The general statement I am about to make is this: The models and makes available to your very specific country may be just exactly that and No more than that ! and be aware of that fact that every importer makes choices based up on the market out of all available models and makes. So for example; Yamaha motors: there are so many models that are very normal to you in the USA but never to be seen here in Europe since the local Yamaha EU importer decided not to import these models and the other way around is valid as well. So many models that are known to us here in Europe; you never may have heard about, or not even have seen in your life. Sometimes local importers: say Yamaha Canada, can import certain Yamaha's, which are not imported in to the USA: Take the Yamaha MT-01 as an example. And maybe this also works the other way around as well. So do not think that the bikes you can choose from are actually the current global Yamaha assortment; All possible models. No; you will only be able to choose from the list of imported models especially for your country, which obviously can be different from the country next door (like Canada)
My wife’s got the Stryker and I have the Raider two beautiful bikes. I’ve owned more than my fair share of cruisers and these are my favourites. Top 5 cruisers for me are 1 Raider 2 Stryker 3 Honda Fury 4 M109r 5 Yamaha Warrior.
Awesome review, Jon. How about a side by side of you and Raider-Bro doing a head to head through some Twisties , so us groupies can see how the bikes handle through the curves, etc? Ciao.
I watched this before I bought my Raider and now watching it again after. It's a work of art and an engineering feat of strength. The verbal warning given in this almost made me shy away but after moving to it from a 750 (which was like driving a 4 cylinder car) I love the feeling. I'm not a big guy either. I'm not as small as a jockey but I think I know how a jockey feels when riding a blistering fast 16 hand thorough bred race horse. I was on a 2 lane road and was wanting to get in the right lane. A Dodge Challenger in the right lane next to me thought he was going to speed up and block me out ( you know how AH's try to do that sometimes for no reason) . silly rabbit , he wasn't able to do that. You own the road when you own this, not to drive crazy, but to exert your will and ride like the wind.
I bought a 2012 Stryker, added sweeps, upgraded air filter, and a power commander. Custom paint, and it's so fun and comfortable! I'll never sell it...
i'm very much a guy that likes to change bikes ev couple years,going through several diff hd's over twenty year period,always favored dyna n sportster models,loved em,i've had this raider couple years now,getting that familiar itch,but man i look at the raider,read reviews,watch vids like yours about them,and i think it'd be very hard to match this bike,feel like it'd be a mistake to sell it just to get another,the urge calms,i'm satisfied,love the raider.have cobra curved exhaust,really liking the 2 into 1 systems,might do that
Yeah, the raider is such a rad bike. Definitely some of the best bang for your buck, especially if you get a good deal on a pre-owned one. Shame they stopped making em. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have had 2 strykers , I still have 1 left, I have absolutely zero regrets. In my opinion the Stryker is a better looking bike. More nimble too with plenty of power.
I believe 2006 was the first year for the Yamaha 1854cc aircooled engine. As I mentioned earlier, the Fury, (or Stateline) and the Stryker are the two you should spend time comparing.
I am not into the fairings that come on the touring models. But I use my Raider for long rides and will be riding from Austin to Colorado next month. You stated it's not good for touring but you can go on long rides. I am glad you cleaned up that comment. I changed out the stock seat for Mustang Wide Touring seat and I can ride for hours without numb butt. The engine is more than big enough for long rides, no fairing so it doesn't look like an old man's bike, just change the seat for more comfort and enjoy loooooooooong rides. I only ride Raiders have owned more than one and have owned Hondas, Kawasaki, and Harley, kept the Raider, wrecked on Raider got another Raider. 💨
Yeah, I hear ya 100%! The raider is definitely capable of cruising as far as it wants - it just may not be the most comfortable for the rider without making some changes. But that 1900 will roll forever! Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thx Jon I like all of them, but you make it look much easier to handle them than it really is. I dead set wanted a fury but when I sat on one at the bike shop I couldn't even push it out of its parking spot. There would be no way I could park it at home, just too heavy. The only bike in this class that I could manage was the bolt. How did you like the c-spec, never hear much about them?
The c-spec is a very aggressive/less comfortable ride than the standard and rspec. I dig the style but not the ergos. Thabks for watching and commenting!
i agree, to big of a bike for ones experience seems to be a real issue.considering the concequences if you get it wrong in busy traffic.i had a friend with no experience at the tim lookin for a harley dyna.he bought an 883 sportster & later thanked me when a car cut him off without warning.fortunately it just scared him how quick things can go bad.
I bought the 2015 Raider Cowl new. I traded in my 2015 Vstrom 1000 for her. I love both bikes. Yes a lot of people never heard of a Raider or did think she is a Harley.
I've been riding for 30 years. Recently went from a FZ1 and now on a Stryker. I love the bike. I honestly don't feel that much power difference between my Stryker and any other Big Bore Harley. Torque numbers are obviously higher on the big bikes, but the HP isn't great on any of them. If you want a fast bike with a V Twin, these are not your bikes. Ducati and KTM have the HP V Twin Market. I'd love to see a side by side drag race with the Raider and Stryker all the same to actually see the results.
I didn't get a side by side with the raider and stryker, but stay tuned for the raider vs dyna rematch and raider vs m109r. Both were admittedly poor in terms of being legit drag races. Drag racing is definitely not my strong suite. However, the winners are still pretty clear cut in each. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
I own an FZ1 but looking to buy a Stryker. I have a fairly tight spot to manoeuvre to park it up the side of my house and am a bit concerned it will be hard to turn tight corners with the raked front forks.
I have a 2018 stryker and absolutely love it. But I probably would have gone raider if they were readily available in Aus. The stryker is so much more agile than I expected, but it needs another gear.
Heck yeah! Shout out to Australia! I hear you regarding the 6th gear. The raider seems to pull off the 5 speed just fine. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey Jon I’m looking at a Stryker, HD Fat Bob and Indian Springfield Dark Horse as a beginner bikes. I’m 6’4 and most of the beginner bikes are too small for me.
Currently own a stryker, but both the stryker and raider sell used for similar prices(older raiders anyway, like 08-12)..tempted to hop to the raider simply because they look better and are more refined. That low rpm sluggishness in the stryker is seriously annoying even with ivans tune.
Both are nice. I wouldn’t be able to pick just one. If I had the money I’ll pick both. Both aren’t beginner bikes even if one is lower cc the rake is what requires the skill set.
Yeah, it's a tough choice....both have a lot to offer no doubt. I agree - the rake makes it a bit tough for the new riders. I could barely handle my shadow 600, let alone a 1300 raked out chopper!
Yup....I'm still stuck on the Stryker, man. The raider is just too............harley....lol Those Strykers are stylish and subtle. You already know what I'm saying next.. hahahahaa.......and a small smoked glass windshield.
Stryker will he good for me if I can swap the front boots and rims. I dropped the vs1400 because of the brakes and looking for big cruiser with two disks upfront ( with little upgrades it will stop even better )
Thanks, man! I think you'll feel more comfortable on the stryker. It's more stretched out/spacious, whereas the bolt is going to be more cramped. Just my two cents. Plus, the stryker has the bigger engine.
Jon's Moto Garage thx for ur prompt reply. Last question taking advantage of ur bargain skills. I am looking at a 2014 stryker with 1600 miles. Asking price is $5,500, how much should I pay?
@@agermoune That's actually a pretty solid deal, especially cause they're somewhat rare (at least here). But I would still offer $4500 and see what he says. Dont forget to emphasize you're a cash buyer and ready to go. Lol. Worst case he says no or ghosts you. And then you just use your girlfriend's phone to message. Hahaha!
i had a Yamaha Stryker 2012.. i sold it to get back to a sport bike ( zx10r ) biggest regret of my life. Well… im selling the zx now and even though i loved my Stryker, im picking up a raider next saturday. 2011 Yamaha Raider with 17 on the odo and im excited as hell. wanted to try out the raider but now if i some how dont like it ill sell it and get a stryker🤝
I just found a 2015 raider with 0 zero miles on it. Guy was a dealer he was keeping it as a show room bike but shut down due to covid. It's still on the trailer didn't have gas or a battery in it. Are these bikes reliable, I am coming from all R1's. Thanks
I have a 2014 Yamaha Bolt, but looking to upgrade in the near future. I'm 5'5", and put mini apes to help with some lean back for better comfort. I've had it for about 4 years now and looking to upgrade to something bigger where I can make it a bagger style and comfortable for longer rides (also with my wife riding pillion). I'm reluctant though with upgrading to either the Stryker/Raider due to them still being 5 speeds. Can anyone chime in on how the freeway RPMs are? Trying to find a nice bike that doesn't scream at me when going 75mph. Thanks in advance 🤘🏼
If someone is into modifying cruiser engines, the Stryker offers liquid cooling, higher rev ceiling, OHC, and it's a lighter machine. Power to weight ratio doesn't put it at a deficit to the Raider all that much.
@@JonsMotoGarage Liquid cooling and 4V OHC really brings advantage in the same engine category. But moving into sport machines, hard to find anything else but dohc 4V lq.
I have a Suzuki Madura and the raider is pretty much the same in numbers wise beside the Madura being lighter lol but I’m about to purchase a 09 raider with 15k on it what do you think I should look for as far as problems with them and do you think it’s comparable to my Madura so I know what I’m getting into
The maruder is basically the meanstreak, right? I heard Kawasaki and Suzuki used the same engines for a few years (or I could be completely mistaken). Lol. I'm not super familiar with known issues specific to the raider. I always check for the basics with a used bike inspection: engine knocks, leaks, bad tires, etc. I think you'll find the raider to be comparable, but maybe more comfortable and smoother. Keep me posted!
Jon's Moto Garage the Suzuki Madura is a 1200 V4 90bhp 110wtq it fought with the Vmax and Magna 65 but was only made 2 years it was faster than the Magna but not as fast as the Vmax that’s why I was say as far as numbers it matches the raider and I was looking also at a 2012 Victory Vegas 8 ball what’s your thoughts on it bud and I love your reviews on the bikes
I own a stryker. Among the bikes I tried this is the one I prefered but I never tried a Raider. I ride mostly in the traffic and at low speed, don't know why but I like it even if I like long rides out of the city too. Has anyone used the Raider in dayily traffic? Does it heat more because it's air cooled?
I haven't ridden the raider around in traffic, so couldn't speak to that. But I've heard from a lot of people they go with the stryker cause it's liquid cooled. Both super cool bikes imo. I took the stryker out yesterday and was reminded of why it's such a great bike! Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
@@JonsMotoGarage The Raider was the first bike I was looking for in the begining but I thought (and maybe I'm mistaken) that the Stryker could be more "balanced" bike for city riding. I also think running at low speeds in traffic could be somehow frustrating with a 100 hp 1900 cc bike :-P
Hello, I have a question, I bought a Yamaha Raider SCL today in Germany. It looks like SCL and even has this stamp on Baku. I don't know why but the registration document shows only Yamaha rider without the addition of Scl. I don't know now if I bought a pig in a poke, do you know that? Maybe this scl wasn't listed in the proof Thx
Here in the Arizona, registrations dont usually specify special trims beyond the model name. At least that's what I've seen from my experience in Arizona. Congrats on the new ride! 🤙💯
Keep in mind that the Stryker is water cooled, Raider air cooled, so using plastic on top of the hotter engine would not have be a wise choice by Yamaha. Stryker likes; weight, watercooling, and amazing near vibration free motor, excellent feeling power and torque curve...Dislikes: Clunking sound from left side of lower engine/transmission (might be the clutch assembly) Raider Likes: boasting rights, more power (not by much when you factor in the power/weight), deeper rumble, little less plastic. DIslikes: Loud alternator wine, Air cooling esp on a hot day.
keep in mind I have the touring versions of each bike sitting in my garage. Id like to see all the possible saddle bag options on both of the street bikes... got to be quick connect for the stripped down look for the short rides!
I have, but definitely do your due diligence to avoid any issues. Get a notarized bill of sale and power of attorney. Complete transaction at the bank when possible, etc.
No doubt the raider is a powerful bike. I'm not sure the context of when I said it didn't keep up, but it's all relative to the other bike you're stacked up against. Against the m109r, the m109r pulled away.
Hahaha...go in the AM when noone is around. Build rapport with the locals and get them to shoot some "SWEET" shots. Lol. And then RUN FOR THE HILLS! Hahaha.
@@JonsMotoGarage Great comeback. There is an answer though,it's the Harley culture and community from the top down. The Japanese stuff has to create it's own community among it's owners.
I didn't clock em. Those were both just clips from my cruises on the bikes. I didn't have this vid in mind at the time. Plus I'm a horrible example as my drag racing skills are definitely subpar. Lol. Sorry, man!
Warrior would be my top pick of the three just for overall fun factor. But the warrior and raider stack up the closest. I've always been a fan of the warrior.
No, the stryker doesn’t compare, sorry bud. I wen’t to two yamaha demo events and demod the stryker and the raider and the raider had worlds more torque. Spend the extra money, get the raider!
red stingray Corvette i gotta say nobody ever told me thats a nice yamaha you have( i have the stryker) people always tell me what kind of harley is that or they say is that a custom bike?.... But we are riding thats what matters. I see harley also making the street fighter the panamerica and the live wire i like them all except for that live wire electric bike. Nice to see harley finally waking up and trying to reach all kinds of riders.
Stryker is not enough power and keeps you needing more plus the rear suspension is very hard and at the slightest broken surface will bounce just not safe to ride in IMO
Unless you are really rich you can't keep all of them. V twins by nature can't produce good Hp numbers. Torque is their forte'. Unless it has a 90° angle. The RC51 and Suzuki TL models really rock out good Hp numbers.
I guess the RC51 is a really good choice especially if you are looking for a custom just as the Raider or Stryker :-P.... seriously I own a Stryker and I don't think I'll be changin anytime soon. I go to work with it and ride it almost every day in rain or under the sun between 0 and 40 celcius degrees in Quebec city. I personnaly can't stand for more than 15 minutes the position of anything which puts me the head towards the front and I prefer the sound and the low torque of a twin V. This is what is wonderful with bikes there are styles for every taste. Your RC51 is really great ... but for some of us bikers it just doesn't fit our taste. Anyway, for what I read an RC51 does 0-60 mph in about 3 seconds... mine does it in about 4... I don't mind the 1 second lol!!! And you won't see me riding much more than 80mph anyway.
@@Steinjung To each his own. I don't care what others ride, as long as they do. I prefer a more engaging ride myself. I don't need 150+ but a squirt to 130 can alleviate traffic doldrums to get around gluts quick. I like the control of a bike in an aggressive position, it allows for better braking and quick vear maneuvers when necessary. Its saved my butt more than once. I guess once I get older I will look to more sedate machines. As a 42 year rider I am just getting used to trusting that anything on the road isn't going to kill me. Oh wait, everything on the road IS trying to kill us!
@@upsidedowndog1256 Yeah I understand. I.m 41 and I like smooth rides as well. The Stryker at about 80 hp / 80 lb of torque can take me easily to 130 or more :-) To each his own as you said :-)
@@Steinjung I have been riding 42 years. I am a bit older than that. To each his own for sure. My "old man bike" to tour on will either be a turbo Hayabusa or ZX14. They are really heavy but solid. Almost 550 lbs. A turbo and that much heavy bike will sail all over the highways of the Americas in comfort.
I have no stock in either one. Both are bikes I purchased and great options. This was just a side by side comp. I've seen some strykers built up that beat vrods on the drag strip (on youtube at least. Lol).
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Which is your poison? Stryker or Raider?
Raider, it looks badass 🤘
No doubt about that!
I would go with the raider all day. I tried a Stryker it was to small for me, couldn’t find a raider so purchased my Indian Chief
The Raider for Sure! Should be called "DragonFire!"
I have the V Star 1300 (the Stryker uses the powertrain from the 1300 with a one-tooth different front pulley) I got new in '08. These are bulletproof drivetrains, with many >100,000 mile bikes still on the road. They are overbore engines, so they like more RPMs than the typical V-twin: pulls strong up to the 6,300 RPM rev limiter, while most of the pushrod Vs are tapped out by 5,500. My bike topped out around 132 with only a cold air induction and drilled factory exhaust. Since I added V&H pipes, a fuel controller, and taller rear tire, it's a 140 MPH machine. 1/4 mile is around 12.5 seconds (adjusted for sea level), so they are surprising for an economical full-size cruiser with only 80 cubic inches that gets nearly 50 MPG. Raider is great looking, but for reliability and value- without sacrificing performance- my nod is for the Stryker.
Would have loved to see a Warrior in this line up as well. As an owner of one, I'm just curious where it stands with these two.
I love my Stryker. I wasn't afraid of the Raider, I just thought it was overkill. The Stryker looks great and runs great, and I commute on it throughout the week and tear it up on the twisty mountain roads on the weekends. Love it.
Nice! The stryker is a perfect blend!
My wife and I test drove both the Raider and the Stryker, we bought 2 raiders. Awesome Bikes. She went from a 650 to the Raider, I went from an 1100 to the Raider. Never looked back.
Both are awesome bikes. If you are an exoerienced rider it would be a matter of choice. Stykers are 1300 (80 cu.in) with the speedo on the bars and are liquid cooled. Raiders are 1900 (113 cu.in) aircooled with the speedo on the tank. They both pull hard when you want them to. I think they handle the same which is amazingly good considering the rake. But Yamaha designed it that way. Yamahas transmissions can't be beat. They shift nice with a definitie "rap" into gear that is smooth and yet deliberate. The Raider seeming a little bit more refined. You can't go wrong with either bike. Additionally, I do want to point out that though the Stryker has lower displacement, by being liquid cooled it generates a lot of power. The air cooled Raider has the beef to back it up... But in the heat of the summer... Sitting at a stop light on a Raider, you can definitely feel the "hot" blooded beast that makes you want that light to turn quick. Lol
I have a 2017 Stryker, and it is a badass machine. Can't believe Yamaha stopped making them. Not a fan of their new lineup, but I'll keep my Stryker for the rest of my life so it doesn't matter to me, I guess.
Yeah, it's a drag they seem to always cut the good ones. Lol. At least you got your hands on one!
Videos don't do these bikes justice! You need to see one in person to really appreciate the size of these monsters! Truly a work of art for a factory bike.
This is true! I try to provide multiple angles and shots, but it's nothing like laying eyes on it and throwing a leg over in person.
Yamaha 1300 engine is just amazing. Blows all other engines of similar cc away. That being said, the raider 1900 is just a monster. You do the Ivan's tune, and it's unbelievable.
It's crazy how fast my taste in motorcycles have changed in just like 5 years. I used to loathe cruisers and nakeds, now they're my favorite. Next year I'm gunna be all about a touring bike. Or an adventure bike!
I'm the same way. My tastes change every couple weeks these days. Hahaha!
Own a 2011 Stryker, handful of mods...gotta say, my absolute favorite bike. It just looks so good and has great power. I have forward controls and that little bit of extra stretch makes all the difference for any sort of long hauls. Would love to own a raider for weekend rides though. Great video!
Heck yeah! The strykers are pretty awesome bikes for sure! A lot more comfortable than they may appear to be. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
i bought the Yamaha Stratoliner S Model with the added chrome and absolutely love it! Same engine as the Raider but i believe its geared and tuned different and thats what gives it a little more power (someone please correct me if im wrong about that) but whenever i do get another bike im definitely getting a Raider. These bikes are so dependable and honestly they all 3 look Amazing! And you can't beat the power these things are putting out while having the unique looks they do. I highly recommend all 3 of these Yamahas. I love Harleys as much as the next person but i'll take these on the long rides over a Harley anyday.
Just brought a Stryker after recommendations for you Jon after you gave me your thoughts on a warrior , Stryker and Boulevard 109 R .
Compared to my VStar 650 its like a V8 muscle car , sounds great ,looks good ( ordered some low and mean parts as soon as i got home )
Let a work mate who just recently road a night train 1800 kms ride it and give me his thoughts and he was absolutely blown away
Ive only ever ridden my 2018 Vstar 650 and my wifes 2023 Vulcan S 650 so i didnt have much to compare it to in terms .
Needless to say i was pleasantly surprised with his response but it did get me wondering watching your reviews on the Boulevard and Warrior how fast those things must be.
Think I'll try and test ride those out of curiosity
Would love a Raider but can't get one in Aus
Keep up the great channel and by the way
I never really knew much about Japanese cruisers but after watching your channel and SKR Cycles can honestly say im glad i do now .
Excellent bang for your buck - saved me thousands on buying a Harley
I just got myself an '08 Raider S. Oh my GOD! She's dragon that should have been left slumbering. She came with a full exhaust swap and Cobra power commander chip. As well as a sexy fat 240 rear tire. She ROARS, GRIOS, and RIPS! It feels as if I'd look back and see her throwing asphalt. I'm in love!
Coming from my old Yamaha Bolt makes her seem only meaner. 😎
Three seasons with it and I’m still in love with it. Me and the Raider will stick together for a very long time. I have the 2008 and will buy a younger one next year or in two years. I’m sad that they stopped to do it because it’s a bike apart. It’s a master stroke from Yamaha. And I love so much the stock pipes, I don’t want to change them. The only thing that annoying me is the sewing machine sound.
As far as I know the Yamaha Stryker was not an EU model, and so probably never officially imported by Yamaha EU in to the EU (I could be wrong though). We did have the Yamaha BT1100 Bulldog, which, again, is a typical European bike designed for the European continent, and who knows maybe was available in different locations across the globe as well. The general statement I am about to make is this: The models and makes available to your very specific country may be just exactly that and No more than that ! and be aware of that fact that every importer makes choices based up on the market out of all available models and makes. So for example; Yamaha motors: there are so many models that are very normal to you in the USA but never to be seen here in Europe since the local Yamaha EU importer decided not to import these models and the other way around is valid as well. So many models that are known to us here in Europe; you never may have heard about, or not even have seen in your life. Sometimes local importers: say Yamaha Canada, can import certain Yamaha's, which are not imported in to the USA: Take the Yamaha MT-01 as an example. And maybe this also works the other way around as well. So do not think that the bikes you can choose from are actually the current global Yamaha assortment; All possible models. No; you will only be able to choose from the list of imported models especially for your country, which obviously can be different from the country next door (like Canada)
Jon, what is old is new - You should have had a stroliner in this mix, or Stratoliner vs Raider.
My wife’s got the Stryker and I have the Raider two beautiful bikes. I’ve owned more than my fair share of cruisers and these are my favourites. Top 5 cruisers for me are 1 Raider 2 Stryker 3 Honda Fury 4 M109r 5 Yamaha Warrior.
Awesome review, Jon. How about a side by side of you and Raider-Bro doing a head to head through some Twisties , so us groupies can see how the bikes handle through the curves, etc? Ciao.
Man, I really like the Raider with a tail look of the Stryker. :). Thx for sharing video bud.
I watched this before I bought my Raider and now watching it again after. It's a work of art and an engineering feat of strength. The verbal warning given in this almost made me shy away but after moving to it from a 750 (which was like driving a 4 cylinder car) I love the feeling. I'm not a big guy either. I'm not as small as a jockey but I think I know how a jockey feels when riding a blistering fast 16 hand thorough bred race horse. I was on a 2 lane road and was wanting to get in the right lane. A Dodge Challenger in the right lane next to me thought he was going to speed up and block me out ( you know how AH's try to do that sometimes for no reason) . silly rabbit , he wasn't able to do that. You own the road when you own this, not to drive crazy, but to exert your will and ride like the wind.
I bought a 2012 Stryker, added sweeps, upgraded air filter, and a power commander. Custom paint, and it's so fun and comfortable!
I'll never sell it...
Heck yeah! I saw a modified stryker smoke a modified vrod on the drag strip. Pretty gnarly stuff!
I love my 2012 Raider. Best bike I've ever rode. I've even gone on a coast run with her 2 ½ hrs
i'm very much a guy that likes to change bikes ev couple years,going through several diff hd's over twenty year period,always favored dyna n sportster models,loved em,i've had this raider couple years now,getting that familiar itch,but man i look at the raider,read reviews,watch vids like yours about them,and i think it'd be very hard to match this bike,feel like it'd be a mistake to sell it just to get another,the urge calms,i'm satisfied,love the raider.have cobra curved exhaust,really liking the 2 into 1 systems,might do that
Yeah, the raider is such a rad bike. Definitely some of the best bang for your buck, especially if you get a good deal on a pre-owned one. Shame they stopped making em. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Coming back a year later and I still think the Stryker is the better choice. If I want a human catapult I’ll go with the 109r.
I have had 2 strykers , I still have 1 left, I have absolutely zero regrets.
In my opinion the Stryker is a better looking bike. More nimble too with plenty of power.
I believe 2006 was the first year for the Yamaha 1854cc aircooled engine. As I mentioned earlier, the Fury, (or Stateline) and the Stryker are the two you should spend time comparing.
I am not into the fairings that come on the touring models. But I use my Raider for long rides and will be riding from Austin to Colorado next month. You stated it's not good for touring but you can go on long rides. I am glad you cleaned up that comment. I changed out the stock seat for Mustang Wide Touring seat and I can ride for hours without numb butt. The engine is more than big enough for long rides, no fairing so it doesn't look like an old man's bike, just change the seat for more comfort and enjoy loooooooooong rides. I only ride Raiders have owned more than one and have owned Hondas, Kawasaki, and Harley, kept the Raider, wrecked on Raider got another Raider. 💨
Yeah, I hear ya 100%! The raider is definitely capable of cruising as far as it wants - it just may not be the most comfortable for the rider without making some changes. But that 1900 will roll forever! Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thx Jon I like all of them, but you make it look much easier to handle them than it really is. I dead set wanted a fury but when I sat on one at the bike shop I couldn't even push it out of its parking spot. There would be no way I could park it at home, just too heavy. The only bike in this class that I could manage was the bolt. How did you like the c-spec, never hear much about them?
The c-spec is a very aggressive/less comfortable ride than the standard and rspec. I dig the style but not the ergos. Thabks for watching and commenting!
i agree, to big of a bike for ones experience seems to be a real issue.considering the concequences if you get it wrong in busy traffic.i had a friend with no experience at the tim lookin for a harley dyna.he bought an 883 sportster & later thanked me when a car cut him off without warning.fortunately it just scared him how quick things can go bad.
I bought the 2015 Raider Cowl new. I traded in my 2015 Vstrom 1000 for her. I love both bikes. Yes a lot of people never heard of a Raider or did think she is a Harley.
RaideR life! The Easter bunny helped me finally get mine dug out yesterday!
Heck yeah! Back to that Raider Life!
Such a shame Yamaha stopped making both of these
I've been riding for 30 years. Recently went from a FZ1 and now on a Stryker. I love the bike. I honestly don't feel that much power difference between my Stryker and any other Big Bore Harley. Torque numbers are obviously higher on the big bikes, but the HP isn't great on any of them. If you want a fast bike with a V Twin, these are not your bikes. Ducati and KTM have the HP V Twin Market. I'd love to see a side by side drag race with the Raider and Stryker all the same to actually see the results.
I didn't get a side by side with the raider and stryker, but stay tuned for the raider vs dyna rematch and raider vs m109r. Both were admittedly poor in terms of being legit drag races. Drag racing is definitely not my strong suite. However, the winners are still pretty clear cut in each. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
I own an FZ1 but looking to buy a Stryker. I have a fairly tight spot to manoeuvre to park it up the side of my house and am a bit concerned it will be hard to turn tight corners with the raked front forks.
I have a 2018 stryker and absolutely love it. But I probably would have gone raider if they were readily available in Aus. The stryker is so much more agile than I expected, but it needs another gear.
Heck yeah! Shout out to Australia! I hear you regarding the 6th gear. The raider seems to pull off the 5 speed just fine. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JonsMotoGarage no problem. Was a great review. Well done guys :)
Hey Jon I’m looking at a Stryker, HD Fat Bob and Indian Springfield Dark Horse as a beginner bikes. I’m 6’4 and most of the beginner bikes are too small for me.
Based on your height, I would lean towards the fat Bob or sringfield. The Indian would probably be the most comfortable of the bunch.
Jon's Moto Garage Thanks man appreciate it
Currently own a stryker, but both the stryker and raider sell used for similar prices(older raiders anyway, like 08-12)..tempted to hop to the raider simply because they look better and are more refined. That low rpm sluggishness in the stryker is seriously annoying even with ivans tune.
Both are nice. I wouldn’t be able to pick just one. If I had the money I’ll pick both. Both aren’t beginner bikes even if one is lower cc the rake is what requires the skill set.
Yeah, it's a tough choice....both have a lot to offer no doubt. I agree - the rake makes it a bit tough for the new riders. I could barely handle my shadow 600, let alone a 1300 raked out chopper!
Yeah, I really like the Stryker. The design is amazing, and I love that sound even with the stock exhaust.
Yup....I'm still stuck on the Stryker, man. The raider is just too............harley....lol Those Strykers are stylish and subtle. You already know what I'm saying next.. hahahahaa.......and a small smoked glass windshield.
Hahaha...I saw it coming from two miles away. But what about the ape hangers? Lol.
@@JonsMotoGarage lol
Stryker will he good for me if I can swap the front boots and rims.
I dropped the vs1400 because of the brakes and looking for big cruiser with two disks upfront ( with little upgrades it will stop even better )
I really dig the Raider style. I don't think we have it in Australia though.
Hey Jon - great review and great channel. Question :
I am 6.3 215 pound and beginner. Stryker or 2015 bolt? Ur thoughts...
Thanks, man! I think you'll feel more comfortable on the stryker. It's more stretched out/spacious, whereas the bolt is going to be more cramped. Just my two cents. Plus, the stryker has the bigger engine.
Jon's Moto Garage thx for ur prompt reply. Last question taking advantage of ur bargain skills.
I am looking at a 2014 stryker with 1600 miles. Asking price is $5,500, how much should I pay?
@@agermoune That's actually a pretty solid deal, especially cause they're somewhat rare (at least here). But I would still offer $4500 and see what he says. Dont forget to emphasize you're a cash buyer and ready to go. Lol. Worst case he says no or ghosts you. And then you just use your girlfriend's phone to message. Hahaha!
Think I'm gonna start with Stryker. Great looking bike and reliable.
Heck yeah! A lot of pros to the Stryker for sure! I don't think you'll be disappointed!
I ride a Stryker, love it!
Never realised either of these existed lol both look incredible
i had a Yamaha Stryker 2012.. i sold it to get back to a sport bike ( zx10r ) biggest regret of my life.
Well… im selling the zx now and even though i loved my Stryker, im picking up a raider next saturday. 2011 Yamaha Raider with 17 on the odo and im excited as hell. wanted to try out the raider but now if i some how dont like it ill sell it and get a stryker🤝
I love my Stryker but I really want a Raider…I’ve been looking at them everyday for weeks lol.
I have a 2007 Vstar 1300. Does the stryker have the same 1300 engine?
I just found a 2015 raider with 0 zero miles on it. Guy was a dealer he was keeping it as a show room bike but shut down due to covid. It's still on the trailer didn't have gas or a battery in it. Are these bikes reliable, I am coming from all R1's. Thanks
I have a warrior but need a raider too!
I want a raider, unfortunately limited amount have been imported privately into Australia...
I’m sure you can modify the gearbox for the Stryker, right?
I have a 2014 Yamaha Bolt, but looking to upgrade in the near future. I'm 5'5", and put mini apes to help with some lean back for better comfort. I've had it for about 4 years now and looking to upgrade to something bigger where I can make it a bagger style and comfortable for longer rides (also with my wife riding pillion).
I'm reluctant though with upgrading to either the Stryker/Raider due to them still being 5 speeds. Can anyone chime in on how the freeway RPMs are? Trying to find a nice bike that doesn't scream at me when going 75mph. Thanks in advance 🤘🏼
If someone is into modifying cruiser engines, the Stryker offers liquid cooling, higher rev ceiling, OHC, and it's a lighter machine. Power to weight ratio doesn't put it at a deficit to the Raider all that much.
Great points I wasnt aware of/hadn't considered. I did see a Stryker beat a vrod on the drag strip (both heavily modified). That was pretty cool!
@@JonsMotoGarage Liquid cooling and 4V OHC really brings advantage in the same engine category. But moving into sport machines, hard to find anything else but dohc 4V lq.
I’m pissed we can’t get the raider in Australia.
Yamaha Stryker. ⛽ Over 40 miles to gallon ⛽ which is good during these 2022 high inflation times ♥️ Love from Mississippi USA 🇺🇲
I have a Suzuki Madura and the raider is pretty much the same in numbers wise beside the Madura being lighter lol but I’m about to purchase a 09 raider with 15k on it what do you think I should look for as far as problems with them and do you think it’s comparable to my Madura so I know what I’m getting into
The maruder is basically the meanstreak, right? I heard Kawasaki and Suzuki used the same engines for a few years (or I could be completely mistaken). Lol. I'm not super familiar with known issues specific to the raider. I always check for the basics with a used bike inspection: engine knocks, leaks, bad tires, etc. I think you'll find the raider to be comparable, but maybe more comfortable and smoother. Keep me posted!
Jon's Moto Garage the Suzuki Madura is a 1200 V4 90bhp 110wtq it fought with the Vmax and Magna 65 but was only made 2 years it was faster than the Magna but not as fast as the Vmax that’s why I was say as far as numbers it matches the raider and I was looking also at a 2012 Victory Vegas 8 ball what’s your thoughts on it bud and I love your reviews on the bikes
Hahaha. I was way off! I was thinking the Suzuki maruder. Just did some research. Dang, I had no idea the madura even existed. Sounds like a beast!
I own a stryker. Among the bikes I tried this is the one I prefered but I never tried a Raider. I ride mostly in the traffic and at low speed, don't know why but I like it even if I like long rides out of the city too. Has anyone used the Raider in dayily traffic? Does it heat more because it's air cooled?
I haven't ridden the raider around in traffic, so couldn't speak to that. But I've heard from a lot of people they go with the stryker cause it's liquid cooled. Both super cool bikes imo. I took the stryker out yesterday and was reminded of why it's such a great bike! Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
@@JonsMotoGarage The Raider was the first bike I was looking for in the begining but I thought (and maybe I'm mistaken) that the Stryker could be more "balanced" bike for city riding. I also think running at low speeds in traffic could be somehow frustrating with a 100 hp 1900 cc bike :-P
@@JonsMotoGarage That was my first bike and I don't regret it
What s the bigest rear tyre syze that u can put on stryker? Whitout modification
Hello,
I have a question, I bought a Yamaha Raider SCL today in Germany. It looks like SCL and even has this stamp on Baku. I don't know why but the registration document shows only Yamaha rider without the addition of Scl. I don't know now if I bought a pig in a poke, do you know that? Maybe this scl wasn't listed in the proof
Thx
Here in the Arizona, registrations dont usually specify special trims beyond the model name. At least that's what I've seen from my experience in Arizona. Congrats on the new ride! 🤙💯
@@JonsMotoGarage thanks i thought i was scammed
I have one more question, do you know of a good US website besides AUTO DATA DIRECT and CARFIX where I can check my VIN Number of my motorbike.
Don't forget the 2004 Kawasaki Vulcan 2000. 125cubic inch. 2053cc
I’m brand new to riding so a beginner I’m 5’5” weigh 140 an for my first bike I got a 2009 Yamaha raider an I do just fine on it
Keep in mind that the Stryker is water cooled, Raider air cooled, so using plastic on top of the hotter engine would not have be a wise choice by Yamaha. Stryker likes; weight, watercooling, and amazing near vibration free motor, excellent feeling power and torque curve...Dislikes: Clunking sound from left side of lower engine/transmission (might be the clutch assembly) Raider Likes: boasting rights, more power (not by much when you factor in the power/weight), deeper rumble, little less plastic. DIslikes: Loud alternator wine, Air cooling esp on a hot day.
Perfect summary on the two! I agree with just about all of that. I need to start consulting you before I do these vids. Lol.
keep in mind I have the touring versions of each bike sitting in my garage. Id like to see all the possible saddle bag options on both of the street bikes... got to be quick connect for the stripped down look for the short rides!
Jon,would you purchase a bike that has a lien on it.Any tips if the bike is financed through Honda.
I have, but definitely do your due diligence to avoid any issues. Get a notarized bill of sale and power of attorney. Complete transaction at the bank when possible, etc.
My poison would be both. Stryker Saturday’s and raider Sunday’s
I like the sound of that! Nice!
You say Raider is powerful , and then at 3:03 you say it didn't keep up, i am confused...
No doubt the raider is a powerful bike. I'm not sure the context of when I said it didn't keep up, but it's all relative to the other bike you're stacked up against. Against the m109r, the m109r pulled away.
Why are there so many RUclips videos listing reasons NOT to by buy the Raider?
Why does yamaha bolt cylinders stick out from the left side more than from the right sideit isn't it intimidating?
Hmmmm....good question. Never noticed it myself. Interesting. I'll have to do some research on that.
@@JonsMotoGarage thank youuu 😁
Are the forks able to switch on these bikes so they're less chopper like? I want a metric bike like a your dynas.
Hmmm...I don't think so. Well, someone could probably do it but I haven't seen it done.
sorry, rakes mostly in the frame. plus it will throw off geometry/turning
Was those factory rims on both
Yeah, factory rims on both.
Had a Raider, my favorite!
Is the stryker big enough for a guy thats 6'4 280lbs?
'06 Stratoliner S will most probably be my last bike, same engine as the Raider...
Heck yeah! I love the stratoliners!
Yeah but its not tuned the same, the raider dusts the stratoliner
Stratoliner is like touring version isnt it?
Scraping the knees! 🤟🏼
Try getting the elbow down next 😉
Need a Warrior in there!
Yeah 0-60 sure... I saw that speedometer.😆 I love my Stryker! Never had the pleasure to get on the Raider.
Hahah! 0-60(ish). Lol. If you get a chance, definitely give the raider a try!
Demo the raider, that’ all i’m gonna say
Can you put a 240 on the Stryker.
I think I've seen it done, but not sure what all it entails.
Yes, no mods needed. Maybe a slight trimming of lower belt guard but that's it.
Thanks Cogswalmen.
You’re totally forgetting the Victory bikes when it comes to big engines and chopper style.
the raider is a michael jordan slam dunk.whole nother level
Heck yeah! Great analogy!
How you get those in the bike park? I cant even get my scooter in there for five minutes without the ranger kicking me out 😂
Hahaha...go in the AM when noone is around. Build rapport with the locals and get them to shoot some "SWEET" shots. Lol. And then RUN FOR THE HILLS! Hahaha.
@@JonsMotoGarage😂 run for the hills
So Jon,tell me what the Breakout will do for you that the Raider won't. (For 1/3 the money)
You and I both know there's no rational response to that question. Hahaha! 😎🤘
@@JonsMotoGarage Great comeback. There is an answer though,it's the Harley culture and community from the top down. The Japanese stuff has to create it's own community among it's owners.
@@scottheath7405 This is true! That was a trick question! Lol.
8:06 Stryker seems to sound a lot better than the Raider when your in the drivers seat. The Raider sounds like a Jetski!
Mafr0 ummmm NO
They both look good
For sure! Both turn heads for sure!
Any of these bikes good for 6'3 rider?
Also can I get the years of these bikes please?
Both would be good fits for taller riders. I believe the stryker is available from 2011 - 2017 or there abouts. Raider from 2008 - 2018 maybe.
did you clock it and if so What was the 0 to 60 time on each bike?
I didn't clock em. Those were both just clips from my cruises on the bikes. I didn't have this vid in mind at the time. Plus I'm a horrible example as my drag racing skills are definitely subpar. Lol. Sorry, man!
Where would you put the warrior with these 2 bikes? Definitely need a comparison between all 3
Warrior would be my top pick of the three just for overall fun factor. But the warrior and raider stack up the closest. I've always been a fan of the warrior.
I'm a newbie and I want a raider
Nothing wrong with that! I would say go for it if you're disciplined.
Deeper Rumble to it, than the 1300. Like comparing a 175 Honda to a 450 next to one another.
Yeah, no doubt they're two very different bikes when it comes to the motor. But lots of people seem to struggle making up their mind between the two.
It really doesn't seem like the raider is much quicker to 100. Don't underestimate a good Rider on a good running Stryker.
I see a Stryker beat a vrod (modified on the drag strip). But yes, rider can't make a big difference for sure.
No, the stryker doesn’t compare, sorry bud. I wen’t to two yamaha demo events and demod the stryker and the raider and the raider had worlds more torque. Spend the extra money, get the raider!
I love my Raider it's a 2008 Tommy Blue. I think it's the best looking Raider there is.
I've seen those out there. Super nice bikes! Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
What exhaust is on the Raider?
Freedom 2-into-1.
As an owner of an 08 Raider. I wanted to hear the Stryker by itself. Oh well.....
You know that Harley Davidson is doing something right when all the Japanese bikes are trying to copy them.great video.
red stingray Corvette i gotta say nobody ever told me thats a nice yamaha you have( i have the stryker) people always tell me what kind of harley is that or they say is that a custom bike?....
But we are riding thats what matters. I see harley also making the street fighter the panamerica and the live wire i like them all except for that live wire electric bike. Nice to see harley finally waking up and trying to reach all kinds of riders.
Latino Biker I fully agree with you man the striker is a very nice bike and it does look custom
The Harley Breakout is a copycat of the Raider
Harleys look and sound good. I just listed all 2 of the pros
Stryker is not enough power and keeps you needing more plus the rear suspension is very hard and at the slightest broken surface will bounce just not safe to ride in IMO
0-60 times?
Unless you are really rich you can't keep all of them. V twins by nature can't produce good Hp numbers. Torque is their forte'. Unless it has a 90° angle. The RC51 and Suzuki TL models really rock out good Hp numbers.
Yeah, it'd be nice to have a jay lenno garage. Hahaha. For now I'll settle on one or two.
I guess the RC51 is a really good choice especially if you are looking for a custom just as the Raider or Stryker :-P.... seriously I own a Stryker and I don't think I'll be changin anytime soon. I go to work with it and ride it almost every day in rain or under the sun between 0 and 40 celcius degrees in Quebec city. I personnaly can't stand for more than 15 minutes the position of anything which puts me the head towards the front and I prefer the sound and the low torque of a twin V. This is what is wonderful with bikes there are styles for every taste. Your RC51 is really great ... but for some of us bikers it just doesn't fit our taste. Anyway, for what I read an RC51 does 0-60 mph in about 3 seconds... mine does it in about 4... I don't mind the 1 second lol!!! And you won't see me riding much more than 80mph anyway.
@@Steinjung
To each his own. I don't care what others ride, as long as they do. I prefer a more engaging ride myself. I don't need 150+ but a squirt to 130 can alleviate traffic doldrums to get around gluts quick. I like the control of a bike in an aggressive position, it allows for better braking and quick vear maneuvers when necessary. Its saved my butt more than once. I guess once I get older I will look to more sedate machines. As a 42 year rider I am just getting used to trusting that anything on the road isn't going to kill me. Oh wait, everything on the road IS trying to kill us!
@@upsidedowndog1256 Yeah I understand. I.m 41 and I like smooth rides as well. The Stryker at about 80 hp / 80 lb of torque can take me easily to 130 or more :-) To each his own as you said :-)
@@Steinjung
I have been riding 42 years. I am a bit older than that. To each his own for sure. My "old man bike" to tour on will either be a turbo Hayabusa or ZX14. They are really heavy but solid. Almost 550 lbs. A turbo and that much heavy bike will sail all over the highways of the Americas in comfort.
I agree !!!!!
SK8 PARK action. 🤘
These things were both born and bread for the skatepark!
I would be 1900 to 2000 kind of guy.
Heck yeah! The rarider is the one for me as well. There's just something about it.
It's the Raider on the wall of death, well, more like the wall of a sore throat!
Your not showing us a race between the two. Embarrased that the Stryker was quicker ?
I have no stock in either one. Both are bikes I purchased and great options. This was just a side by side comp. I've seen some strykers built up that beat vrods on the drag strip (on youtube at least. Lol).
Both Bikes are nice...but im old and i like big Honkin Harley Touring ...and comfort up the Wazoo !!Lol... Ride Safe !
Heck yeah! I still have my eyes set on a road glide someday.