Right before JSO killed a robbery suspect, an officer turned off his bodycam because of a ‘brigh...
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2023
- The Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office’s pledge to be more transparent under Sheriff T.K. Waters is being challenged by a mother who still wants answers following her son’s death. More at News4JAX: www.news4jax.com/i-team/2023/...
The lights on those cameras are quite small and easily concealed with a small piece of tape, the officer's hand or nearly everything you come in contact with.
This excuse is equivalent to a child's and only acceptable to those that don't require any reason or excuse.
There should be no way police can cut cameras on or off because it'll prove if your wrong or right 🤔
I smell BS.
If I remember correctly The Axon cams have a "blind" mode in which the red light is off yet the cam still functions. Just not tracking here. I trained officers for years and this is my bottom line. It should be STATUTE that cams remain on at all times during an incident or call until that call is cleared. It is public record PERIOD. If the agency needs to redact certain sections for operational security, that can be argued. But the complete record MUST be preserved.
New Mexico police got investigated by Feds years ago for officers continuously turning off bodycams especially in shootings.
I agree. There should be two identical cameras as well.
Anyone miss the part where they said he committed armed robbery...
Yeah these criminals sympathizers. They never think about the real victim.
Because the paid liars never lie
Police can say you committed any number of crimes. That is literally their job. You do realize they have little to no part in proving you committed any of the crimes that they say you've committed, right?
Report the truth. He refused to cooperate. He robbed a house. Fought police.
Yes indeed. That's exactly what happened. Media these days. Criminal sympathizers too. Their horrible. One less POS off the streets.
With everything going on with police ..I wouldn't turn my light off ..just to cover myself in a situation like this ...seems sketchy to me ..
no one wants to be caught on camera committing a crime.
They turned them off so it won't show them murdering that man
First degree Murder
They turned off the bodycam … meaning that was murder.
They wanted to hide their actions by doing this, they are just liars in that department.
Armed robbery, lucky for his future victims.
Some of you people are crazy, you think they treated the person they robbed with courtesy and respect.
Mr. E that is why we have a court of law idiot.
EXACTLY!!!!!. F**K THESE CRIMINALS!!!!
That's irrelevant, LEOs are not judge, jury and executioner. The individual was not convicted as far as I understand... Innocent until proven guilty???
@@joehopper3720 And criminals are? Robbing, killing, raping, beating etc..
Criminal doesn't have a policy on proper conduct when interacting with the public , if that isn't good enough for you I'll pass on wisdom from my grandma "two wrongs don't make the situation better"
No sympathy for someone who commits armed robbery
Lord of the hooded Klansman, we already know & your sympathy wasn't asked for , so stfu .
What if that was your child
@taedolla5592 then id raise them to not commit armed robbery. Not like some parents who leave their kids for the whole block to raise.
@@taedolla5592 I can assure my child would never be this ignorant nor desperate to rob someone at gunpoint lol
@@missourisavage2279 I'm black baby doll
OMG. That's ridiculous. This is the exact time you want it.
Why didn't the reporter show us how bright the light is in a dark situation !
JSO surely wouldn't allow for that to happen.
They should not be able to cut the camera off at all we ain't tryin to hear all that bull 💩 make them without that light on it
They forgot to tell you the part right after the super told them to shut them off... the part you didn't hear was, "...because we aint taking prisoners so shoot to kill..."
The law and rules that govern the police should be the same nationwide. It's ridiculous that different staes have different rules. It's one damm country.
@@rodniegsm157510th amendment might be one to take a look at.......
Wasn't there like a dozen other cameras on tho?
I don’t think swat is required to wear cameras. They justify it with concealing identity’s of undercover cops. Those guys are trigger happy maniacs who think they’re clearing houses in Afghanistan. Once one shoots, they unload. Psychopaths looking to kill.
There's no plausible explanation about the cameras after 3 years other than a cover-up.
A person robbing on drugs and will hurt or kill you... most already been ain't going back..
Don’t worry, they will investigate themselves and they will definitely do a thorough job. 😉
Something is not right & that mother deserves truth also a peace of mind❗
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She raised him to be the man he was, he went out like a true gangster from the hood, deep down you know she is proud
it should be considered the crime of unlawful tampering with evidence for cops to stop recording or mute their body cameras. All of the events of an incident should be recorded from start to finish. It should be up to legal counsel and the public records custodian acting in accordance with Florida’s public records law as to determine what is released to the public not the officers in the field. Officers in the field shouldn’t even have the ability of deciding what is recorded during an incident much less the discretion.
From start if shift to end of shift. McDonalds employees are held to higher scrutiny than LEO.
You speak the truth, Jeff
at least it had a good ending
Yeah so did the mass shooting in Monterey ca . 10 dead & the white shooter is still at large , & what about the 4 college students killed in Iowa , did that end well , & what about the Mormon family in Utah slain by their father while they slept , & what about the white woman that's went missing , whose husband is in jail for her murder , & what about the mass shooting carried out by a whiteboy at a Colorado night club , & what about you sounding like a typical racist hypocrite? Stfu fool .
A feel good story. That criminal won't be violently robbing anyone anymore. The family are just the same. Criminals.
why would any decent young man think it's a good idea to arm himself and go out to commit an armed robbery?
If you're setting an ambush, it makes perfect sense to turn off all the lights if you're hiding in the dark.
You can simply cover the light with a piece of tape or velco. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TURN OFF THE CAMERA. Same as turning down the radio instead of completely turning it off.
Empty your pockets, how many rolls of tape you got? Maybe don't rob people?
@@williampayton9515 - Actually, cops turn off their radios all the time in situations like that. Even a radio that’s very low could be heard. And as far as a piece of tape, great advice if you plan to head. You don’t always have time to get an opaque piece of tape.
@@iMatti00 Modern Motorolas and others do in fact turn the volume all the way down to emit zero sound. Some even have a vibrating remote mic or ear plug. And the visual indicator is not a necessity. The radio carrying pouch can certainly conceal any visual signals by adding a simple flap that can folded over for night use or stowed away for day time ops. Military units do this "ALL THE TIME" while conducting patrols and radio discipline is enforced. At no time should a radio or body cam be turned off while actually on a call.
All it takes is one shot to the shoulder or both shoulders and you won't be able to turn your comms back on to get help. Leave the comms on with the volume turned down and you can lean your cheek over and apply pressure to the remote mic and place the call. The volume button only dictates how loud you hear, not how loud you transmit. You must be young and ignorant to the importance of radio communications.
@@williampayton9515 - When I said turning off ones radio I’m referring to turning off the sound. Though I could’ve been more precise about that.
But as far as your dig about me being young and ignorant, I think that kind of points to something about you that you can’t handle someone disagreeing with what you think. Seems like you have to come back swinging. And I believe that not only because of what you said because more or less you just repeated yourself. You said there’s a cover with a flap over at the cover the light and everything else, well duh. That’s why I made my comment that regular patrol cops do not always plan ahead and have an opaque piece of tape. The cop was not prepared for that assignment, so we had the choice to either leave, in which case his body camera would be useless, or stay and turn it off. Either way there would’ve been nobody camera. Obviously the swat team doesn’t have body cameras in that department or else we would’ve had their cameras. So this one guy shutting off his camera meant nothing.
So I would respectfully suggest you have some introspection and explore why you feel the need to lash out because someone disagreed with you and said that he might not had tape available once they realize the light was flashing. And last minute situation you don’t always think of everything ahead of time. Or I guess I could in my comment by saying maybe you were too young or ignorant to realize. But I won’t do that. Haha
_Edit: corrected a typo to the word “dig”._
That's ashamed she should sue jso and the officer because he had no right turning it off and using bs excuse. That's not transparency it sounds like an excuse to control cameras when they want too.
Should put a piece of tape over the light. Kid was playing gangster, and she knew it. Where’s the father?
Well the criminal had no right to commit armed robbery or shoot at police. Got what he deserved.
@@haulingfuel4759 where ever yours is!!
Cut the camera off because of a light but have lights and beams on guns and it was night time hmmmmm how did they see the suspects?
Light beams?! LoL. Tell me you don't know about firearms without telling me. And I guess you've never heard of night vision either? 🤦🏽
how is there an off switch? my time clock/cameras at work dont have an off switch so i would think work required cameras shouldnt either. whats the point if they can turn them off during crimes they are committing? 5th amendment i guess
Your time clock follow you to the bathroom or listen to you when you're having a personal conversation?
For turning off the body Camara, they should at least be charged with tampering with evidence.
Her focus should be on why her son was shooting towards swat.
That's not the point. The point is following the law while enforcing the law. Cameras serve to back up a good cop's story as well as identify a bad cop. Turning it off removes both options.
@@williampayton9515 I agree 100%. All cops should wear a camera, including swat. But also don’t play gangster, swinging a gun around will get you shot. If he had been killed by a black male, nobody would care. Raise your kids right.
@@haulingfuel4759 She stated that she doesn't condone her children acting out. Go back and view it again. Her only request was to see the body cam to ensure that what the officer says is correct. That's all she asked for. I never heard of a gangster living to retirement either. So it's a dead end career. But that still does not excuse bad behavior from law enforcement. Body cams didn't come about just because. Bad officers and discrepancies in testimony is the reason they wear them. I would never turn mine off. I would rely on video to corroborate my statement. I would hate to lose my job or freedom because a suspect or witness lied on my actions.
@@williampayton9515 seems like all the good cops (which is most) want cameras.
@@haulingfuel4759 Agrred
Put a piece of tape over the light
Well in the navy they teach you or they used to teach you to cover your cigarette to cup your cigarette with your hand so the ember would not be seen. An ember of a cigarette can be seen for miles and miles through a pair of binoculars. So I agree with this officer and infrared does give off a red glow and the green blinking light from Exxon body cams could be covered up with black electrical tape but I'm sure they never thought of that
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On purpose. They had other plans.
USS Mars AFS-1 1967-1969. Wartime cruising, we couldn't light up above deck at night for that exact reason.
You are right
Yall run them jaws but yall have no ideal how intense these things are unless you the cop or criminal so F off dude
GO JSO
They probably chased that man in the woods an kilt him for sport.. we all know it.. they knew no one would question if a criminal was kilt..
It should be a felony for a cop to turn off the body cam or not use a body camera on a raid. If a cop turns off a camera then a lie detector should be required
sound like they ambushed the guys and murder him that’s what it sound like to me
In the dark, someone in the bushes says stop police?
Sounds like no one body cam was on. Transparency smh….
Sounds like a murder cover up to me
The police always turn off their body cams right before their going to do something wrong.
Liers never turn off the camera 📷. They didn't want people to see the truth.
Don't break the law. Easy as that. After all these years I haven't been cuffed by officers ever. Because I'm a law abiding citizen. It's not that hard.
Bootlicking blind man here folks
@@danielforgedragon3446 hahahaha sure thing. Following the law = bootlicking? Better a bootlicker than some criminal scum. Guess you know all about that😉 next time come up with a proper argument. Just "bootlicker" really makes you look unintelligent. 😁
ON A BODY CAM, IS A BLINKING RED LIGHT..
Camera is not law nor protection. It is added weight and something else to worry about while doing duties.
Should be automatic felony if a cop turns off or mutes tbeir bodycam, why are you turning it off you must have something to hide, once a dirty cop always a dirty cop
WOW!!!!! WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON OUTCHEA
JSO policy needs to be amended again to not allow the camera to be off at time they are on duty or off duty and carrying an arm.. We need to be able to trust our LEO's and verify they haven't broken that trust. That includes any supervisors or officers discussing planning or tactics. Anytime an officers camera is off needs to be thoroughly investigated and suitable fines and punishments handed out
battery doesnt last 12 hours
@@toddhicks9952 it can be replaced that would be an acceptable reason for a 5-minute break in the recording
@@docink6175 doesnt work that way. we dont carry extra camera with us.
@@toddhicks9952 thats a lame excuse , carry spare batteries or spare cameras
@@docink6175 ok, just telling how it works. If you wanna strap on a vest and gun and go risk your life then do it. Don’t be a RUclips professor who thinks he knows how everything works.
YOU CANT SEE A RED OR GREEN LIGHT FROM 500 FEET OR EVEN 150 FT
No officer should be able to turn off their body cam, although he was involved in a robbery shooting him 18 times is insane, turning off a body cam should be a first degree felony,the officer who turned off the camera and the officer who instructed him to turn it off should be held accountable and charged,the family should file a lawsuit
nothing illegal about breaking a job's policy. the reason he got shot 18 times is probably because there were multiple cops, and this isnt Call of Duty, someone doesn't get shot and immediately falls to the ground. Studies have shown that cops are less than 35% accurate when shooting, so they have to shoot multiple times to hit a target. I can only recall one video of where someone gave up after being hit by one bullet, but that was after the cops shot and missed with like 20.
When a turd tries to kill you, you shoot until the threat is put down, getting shot 18 times just means the police did their job, RETURNING FIRE
🤦♂️ 🤤 ~ I guess you’re so smart, I guess they should’ve gave away their position so maybe more people would’ve died. Perfect plan.
Its amazing how these killer cops all work together
They murdered him in cold blood then covered it up.
Yea that’s foul people getting murdered by cops and they want the people to just accept it
Policy is policy, break it - find employment elsewhere.
IT SMELLS FISSHY TURNING THE CAMERA CONVINIENTLY BEFORE SHOOTING THE GUY.
When the last time have you ever seen somebody ambushing the police
THOSE CAMERAS DONT HAVE LIGHTS ON THEM AT ALL!!!!!! Stop the lies
Bold untrue comment
They are not military fighting a foreign enemy.
They don't own any black tape?
Another murder by cop
Cops gaming the system !
Sounds a lot like an ambush
Transparency
That s a lie
True some cops can be bad but if someone goes out committing armed robbery they risk getting killed. Camera don't matter this time. I would not want a blinking light on my body if somebody was shooting at me. And that situation who's going to think to get a piece of tape out and cover a blinking light. Ridiculous, is life-or-death
👎 ~ This is why people hate the media. If you want to criticize the police department for having a light or not having a way to cover up the light, perfect. But you’re making this worse than it is. If the light is giving away their position then of course they need to turn it off. Are we serious? You really think the cop needs disciplined? And you didn’t mention there’s one way the cop could’ve kept his body camera all caps on, he could’ve just left the area. Because it looks like the swat team cops didn’t have body cameras at all. Yet you focus on rules which sometimes have holes in them.
I’ve constantly criticized cops for turning off their body cameras. But there’s times a body camera needs to be turned off. And I’m sure you’ll have plenty of people in the comment section we don’t have many brain cells and they’ll be all against the cops here. But you’ve done nothing for journalism or for society.
It have to be consequences for incident like these. Why JSO change camera policies 10 times since 2018 is unheard of and disorganized.
So update policy to make it better for the community and you call it wrong. Don’t update your policy and you call it wrong. Lose lose situation it seems like with people like you.
Hummm put tape over it
turn the cameras off and he get shot 18 times, sound like they shot him on sight, so what about the other officers cams? was they turn off too, the ideal that they can turn they can them off is crazy, they should never turn them off.
It should be a 100% fireable offence, if they turn their body camera off during a shooting, it could possibly cost the city millions in future incidents
Officer 1”Turn it off, finna get nasty”
Officer 2” my first drill” turns camera off
In other words they have a legal license to kill
Always have a license too kill.
Child, teenager, young person and the elderly. They would shoot their parents.
If cops cant do that, they are worthless to the academy. Lifes all about decisions!
Exactly
I guess covering the light w/tape is too "advanced tech" for the officers. don't bother looking for answers.
I love how this “News” channel says “the facts are against him but they have nothing to actually prove it. Just what the cops told them. Now him being told to deactivate the camera wouldn’t that be on the body cam?? Or was it deleted? I’m betting they deleted it.
well they got the guy off the streets .
This proves nothing good happens in that part of town. Red state violence.
Shot eighteen times, what happened his little finger get stuck in the trigger mechanism!
They can put a piece of black tape over the light
End Qualified Immunity and start holding law enforcement officers accountable for their criminal actions and lying.
Sounds like B's
Sounds like first degree REDRUM to me !!!!!
They meant to kill him
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Competition Is, Still Fierce.
We Ain't Complaining Like Other State Are Complaining..
Cover up
So they don't give themselves away. Take off their badge one flicker of light could getthem killed.
There's a easy way to find the facts !! Easy !!
They kill him
Theses no lights on those cameras this makes me so mad
it was a reflection off another light
Bold untrue statement
BS if you're worried about being detected , why would you give away your position by yelling JSO , these pigs had one intention & that was not to bring the suspect in alive .
100 million dollar lawsuit
It was a special operation. They don't need to have body cams.
now this is excellent reporting!!!
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I tend to be critical of bad policing. But, it’s pretty hard to support the perps when they’re apparently armed, and evidenced to use arms.
Condolence to mother, but her son stepped in the wrong life and these circumstances make it hard for good guys to blame the JSO.
That said, damn, Blue, keep your cameras on!!
Because the paid liars never lie
How many times do police have to be caught lying at every step of an investigation for people like you to realize that all they do is lie. They even lie when they know we can see the video. Lets be honest, it is rarer for them to speak truth.
Maybe the answers the mom needs can be answered by some self reflection.
Your kids shouldn't be out there being thugs.
What if that was your child????
thank you i was going to put that .
@@taedolla5592 So it's ok this guy was out doing an armed robbery . Please what are they supposed to do say you been a bad boyyyyyyy go home .
18 shots.. a little much bullets ain't free.
i would have added 2 morr
What a great lesson to other LEOs. ALWAYS be sure to turn off your body cam before murdering a citizen, especially if your victim is unarmed. While there always a chance some nosy do gooder might film the murder with their phone, don’t make it easier for the cop haters by filming it yourself. Just remember - cops always get the benefit of the doubt versus citizens because of all the hero propaganda they’ve been spoon fed for decades. Good luck out there!
HATE CRIME
There should not be a turn off the camera