I wish companies would just be honest and say: "Yea, we removed a feature in order to sell it back to you. Its in our best interest to make more money, because we're a business. Nothing personal, just business." I'd respect them more.
Remember, Samsung removed headphone jack in their midrange this year, meanwhile xiaomi, had removed the headphone jack in their midrange even earlier. This anti-consumer mentality needs to be stopped
If you're talking about the MiA2, then you'll be happy because it is the only midrange device I can think of without the headphone jack. Their current midranger have this jack.
How exactly do we stop it though? It's not as though everybody is going to stop buying cell phones out of protest over these things. They have us by the balls and they know it. That's where the consumer mentality has gotten us. At some point maybe we could have done something, but as far as I can see it's too little too late, because all of the manufacturers are going in the same direction regardless of whether we like it or not. These things are not done on a whim, they are planned out well in advance. I guarantee you there are already plans in the works for the deprecation of 4G devices now that 6G is being worked on, even if it's ten years or more out yet.
Which phone will you use when your S10e goes out? I reckon you could keep buying used S10e units. Have you ever tried the xda custom ROM for when manufacturers inevitably stop supporting older models, even flagships?
@@SayAhh Well i used a p9 lite for i think two more years after its support ended whit basically no problems (except its originally small performance ofc)(Also its still used by today totally fine since i gave it away) so I'm sure that s10e would hold just fine for a few more years.
@@SayAhh no, I have no time for messing with custom ROMs and jailbreaking and all that. I have no plans of giving up my S10e. I can't get anything with microsd card, headphone jack, and fits in my hand as requirements Why spend money on new junk when they take away features I want and care about...
@@rossmanngroup "Jailbreaking" (rooting, CFW, etc) from a personal experience: I basically bricked roughly 90% of the phones I used to own trying to root them at a minimum. The only two I succeeded with has been my old Nexus and my current Moto Play Z (the one with add-ons, but they baited people with the "DIY" and SDK add-ons idea, then pulled it down a while after ._. ). The worst brick I have (yup still got) is the Zenfone ML511 (A00Z) that won't take *any* manufacturer signed firmware (not even the Chinese model firmware) and yet it's based on the X86 architecture. Trying to unlock the bootloader by passing a string to the bootloader messed the signing key and perma-bricked the phone. This is probably the most egregious anti Right-to-Repair move. Would be nice for repurposing reasons to have a solder-pad behind the battery called "UEFI" and have that boot like any UEFI firmware does currently and maybe have the UEFI mode burnt into a ROM area in the SoC. (Would be easier to quickly compile a bunch of kernels to see what one boots and thus easier to program. Also It'd be obvious if the phone keeps showing "UEFI" in big writing that it maybe tampered with assuming "evil-maid" attacks, so their "security" argument falls apart)
My S10e is nothing but screen and still has a 3.5mm audio jack. Apple and thus, the other companies, are completely full of it. And as someone who works on phones and tablets daily, there is plenty of space to put in a 3.5mm jack with better packaging in the internals.
Yes but at the bottom the bezel is slightly bigger than the top bezel with a camera and kinda annoys me for the s10e because iPhone bezel is the same size everywhere.
Spot on, nothing wrong with a company wanting to make money but it's the lies I just can't stand. Its not about making a better product, saving the environment or creating ease of use, it's about money.
Exactly! It was always about money. Same with the electric cars, saving the planet, blah, blah, blah. All lies to guilt trip us believing that we are saving mother earth. Rules for you, not for me.
Anyone with a functioning brain could put 2 and 2 together and see that they wanted to sell more expensive products. People would still buy it even if they told the truth.
@@bleuebloom you mean strip mining for rare eath minerals? The fact that our own grid can't support green? The fact that green causes more impact to the environment? Recycling causes more damage? Do research before debating.
For me, a wired headphones means reliability (never had my wired headphones go out of battery) and audio quality (no weird disconections or stuttering if i left the phone somewhere) But i recently came across another argument for headphones jack: it's MUCH simpler and intuitive to use. I installed a Bluetooth sound system in our living room, yet my mother keep listening to music on the phone's speaker. But when she's in the office we have, she intuitively plug the audio cord laying on the desk into her phone, because she knows that this means music and of she goes... For someone like apple that care about the user experience and pretend to be more accessible, i think a headphone jack is a must
Sometimes airplay is more convenient as the speaker is already on and streaming to it is only ever a few taps away. Plus it’s multi room capability and lossless audio quality.
@@JulianLopez-kx1zo but i don't own any airplay audio stuff. And i'm not going to replace : - My living room hi fi setup - my bedroom audio setup - all the speakers we have at home (lile the one in the office mentioned before) - cars stereo (with an s because there's my dad's, mom's and mine) - etc. JUST BECAUSE MY MOTHER GOT A NEW PHONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A F**KING HEADPHONE JACK. Talk about being eco friendly when you're suggesting people replace all their stuff because you did something that "takes courage to do"
Samsung: Mocks Apple for removing Headphone Jack Samsung: Removes Headphone Jack Samsung: Mocks Apple for removing included charger Samsung: Removes Charger Hmmmm, I am a Samsung user myself but yeah... Samsung should stop Mocking Apple and then doing the thing they mocked....
even upcoming new a series (a13 5g / a33 / a53 / a73) now going remove charger and headphone. even entry - midrange phone got same applied as flagship things. wtf going on samsung. (btw. i like to use samsung phone, but in same time i hate samsung in this way too.)
We need to bully these companies into giving us the 3.5mm headphone jack, its so annoying. We can't let these companies keep ripping us off by getting rid of stuff from the box.
I don't mind for compannies stopped including heaphones or chargers in the box. but 3.5mm jack needs to stay. Bluetooth isn't supiorior technology over wired just more convienient. same as Wifi.
They won't budge until they loose too much in sales. If you're happy to use Android, look at a company called Vivo. Most of their phones have 3.5mm headphone jacks, dual nano sim and some models are dual nano sim plus microSD.
I’m not really that bothered by the removal of the headphone jack as i never use earphones unless I’m on an aeroplane and even when I do I just an adapter.
I'm just going to very quietly say that the Sony Xperia phones still offer headphone jacks, dual front speakers, USB-C charging, including both the cable and the brick in the box, expandable storage, dual SIM readers, edge-to-edge displays, 120hz screens that are 4K and without a cutout or notch. They're also ultrawide like most modern computer monitors and support HDR. They even have dedicated camera buttons and native PS4 controller support out of the box, so they're fun little emulator phones too. They also have the full water and dust resistance as well. I'm not saying they're above it all. I can't say they're superheroes of the phone world. I could make this post and discover that the Sony Xperia 1 iv has taken a dire turn. But, at least consider them when buying your next phone. They're really fun, powerful little phones with some uniqueness and personality. Apparently they are comparatively easy to fix too.
but for that you are paying more for those phones which is why they aren't beating apple or samsung why buy a xperia 3 for 1.2 k when i can get a galaxy s22 for only 700 even if it has slightly less
@@mr.breadman4181 I mean the $1200 number is in line with Samsung's actual flagship, the S22 Ultra, which has a lower resolution screen, no headphone jack, no micro sd support, but does have a battery the same size and a pen included.
@@nathansstuff1547 but point is the s22+ is just fine and still $300-$400 cheaper why waste an insane amount just for a headphone jack and slightly better screen and I'm 1000% fine with the s22's slightly lower resolution because I'd rather save the money
@@mr.breadman4181 Maybe someone wants those features in a flagship phone. Know I prefer having a headphone jack to not having one. I easily notice latency with Bluetooth headphones. There's also honestly no reason for Samsung to not have one.
Consumers need to understand that wireless and wired has existed together for god knows how long. Why should we throw away the jack when we can use both
@@anianii This is the stupidest thing I have read in a while. Wired and wireless each have their pros and cons which contrast each other with one having what the other lacks and making them capable to coexist with each other and be used depending on the consumer's need. Floppy disks while present during the transition to cd, had no real advantage over cd making them clearly inferior and as such phased out
@@anianii Well average tech company coolaid drinker, Disk media is still utilized for media. There's a reason why high end headphones are wired as opposed to wireless.
@@HChristoph You mean Blu-Rays? DVDs have been garbage for over a decade because they're kneecapped at piss poor 480i (not even 480p) with horrendous color and audio problems.
Funny how a mid-range phone actually gets you more features than a high end one, huh? This video made me appreciate my A31 more. I have a headphone jack, a pair of original Samsung earbuds to go along with it, a charger and a cable... And guess what? It all came inside the box for 1/3 of the price of a flagship model 😉
Unfortunately it's all gone now. With the new A33 you would just get the charging cable like the flagship phones. It's just bad that Samsung does this to even entry level phones
Don't forget shit CPU, shit One UI, you got what you paid for, me as well, I have an A51 and I fucking hate One UI, in fact so much that I tripped Knox and flashed Android 12 Pixel Experience GSI, now I don't have access to all cameras but at least something that doesn't work like fucking shit and drops it's battery 30%!!! within night.
no he didn't. The removal of a power brick is simply because of human nature. Few people plug it into bricks now. Even if they plug a cable it's normally to a computer, or battery pack.
Not really. Anyone who doesn't drink the corporate cool-aid knows they have been lying out their ass since the beginning. Maybe it will help give those shills a slap in the face though.
Worst thing apple ever did was popularize the removal of the headphone jack. This was and still is just ridiculous, there is literally no justification besides forcing people to buy wireless.
Let's not forget the removal of the MicroSD port to completely render you unable to expand the storage and no more dual-SIM either. Or when they decided to put non-removable batteries in these bricks. As you said, it all boils down to making more money, nickel and dime you as much as possible, squeeze you out of every last cent for shorter and shorter periods. They don't want you to use the same phone for over 4 years and even if you want to, add to that the lack of updates and support. Programs themselves dropping entire lines and models, the obfuscation and difficulty to apply the right to repair... Feels like mobile is already treading that infamously disgusting "you'll own nothing and be happy" Orwellian nightmare. Back to topic, for proper bluetooth phones I would rather get something like those Fiio adaptors that let you turn wired IEMs into bluetooth ones instead of these disposable TWS with their death clocks.
The SD Cards were literally only there because the older phones having a tonne of internal storage would have priced the phones stupidly. Internal storage can go up to like 1TB now. Why the F do you need to expand it? And there are plenty of Dual SIM phones still on the market. So please stop talking out of your a**
I can understand removing the SD slot as there is a good reason. The reason that put them on cheaper phones is due to bandwidth is not a issue. The high-end phones you have cameras capable of 8k and processors that capable of alot of bandwidth on bus. Even good fast speed class SD cards can't keep up and Likely people complain to much about issues. Then you got the fact most people don't know the difference between faster class SD card, or throw in whatever they have laying around, put apps on it and wondered why is slow, or don'twork correctly and call customer service complaining. I actually had to tell people they need a class 10, or U3 rated MicroSD card and over their head and don't think it worth spending the difference and only think capacity. So manufacturers eliminated it completely mainly for better experience for the mainstream consumers as they can't complain about poor video performance, poor pictures quality and apps crashing, or slow to load, missing files and etc. I wish they when to SD express like most professional broadcast gear but is much larger and likely reason they didn't? So yes the internal memory is much faster and better. MicroSD is outdated and can't keep up pretty much, plus in some case unreliable. Even broadcast and professional level equipment moved away from MicroSD a while ago. Now to be honest I wish they kept the card slot anyways as some use to store music lossless files which MicroSD is good enough but I get why they removed it on faster phones and reason it still on cheap to midrange phones. Now the headphones jack there is no excuse but due to pure greed to get people to buy wireless buds. The excuse they use claiming they had to fold display controller under display as edge to edge display the reason is not valid as could have moved headphone jack to top, or side and LG been doing it even with edge to edge display, so definitely could have been done.
Not only that but they now have done away with the 3G network and signals to force us to upgrade our phones to so called lightning fast 5G networks and its 5G phones: I am using 2G now and it is fine in its upload and downloads speeds on its network though a little slow at times; All this so call fast upload and download crap just so that they can make more unnecessary money for themselves after they have so much of it already;
It's disappointing to see Samsung removing the headphone jack and charger even for their lower end phones. I'm glad that Xiaomi is still giving you chargers even with their latest Mi 12 Pro. I hope they never stop doing that, or at least give you a choice if you want the charger or not. Also, I imagine that by using GaN tech and a slim form factor, companies can certainly make a smaller box that can also fit a small but powerful charger.
I'll insist on phones with jacks and memory card slots for as long as they're available. While I love wireless headphones, it's nice to have the plugin option when the wireless is charging or unavailable.
Same, if there are no new phones available with these features I'll just stop upgrading altogether. And if I have to fix my older devices or flash new ROMs to keep them going I'll fucking do it, screw these greedy corporations.
I came up in the 80's when everyone was talking about rampant corporate greed; it's been an amazing shift from the cynicism to the optimism of the 90's (itself kind of poisonous on a social level in the US) into the ugly reality of the modern age. Unfortunately, I don't know what we can do. It's trivial for these corporations to do as they please and set trends that most people will go out of their way to defend to protect their own egos. Mass movements like right to repair and right to own are common sense things that we used to enjoy, but ultimately its the money that owns our politics and our culture. Money has time, the attention of the masses doesn't. I hate thinking this way, but we see it in everything from local laws to global warming. :(
Well a start would be, don't buy products they remove features from. If Apple had seen a drop in sales due to the 3.5mm jack being removed, they would have returned it.
It's not the companies' responsibility to be generous. Sure they are greedy, but it ultimately falls on the consumer to choose which product to buy. Unfortunately it seems like the masses just love being fucked over.
My phone still has the headphone jack and sd card slot, and has served me well for 6 years now. Sadly is getting slow and sluggish, and it can't take too many apps, to the point I'm considering buying a new phone, but I don't want to lose those little conveniences :'(
same here. i changed my old asus just almost 2 years ago, it was hard to find something with the headphone jack and micro sd slot. i finally found the note 10 lite with a promotion. i still use both things and if i will not find another phone with those i will repair this one lol. good luck to find your next device :-)
You should use GSM arena for phone shopping, you can use their phone finder to narrow down phones by features (SD card slot, 3.5 jack, OLED screen, etc.) I used it to find my current phone, and will use it to find my next phone.
Nothing these companies do is for the benefit of the customer or environment. Don't even pretend it is. Everything is profit-based now in this world and anything that can be done to squeak out just a little more is what companies will do.
Brent - “come on maaaaannn “ - “they” care about your personal well being, it’s why they go on n on about diversity equality equity inclusion sustainability, and whatever feel good emotional buzzwords will get Gen Zers salivating n willing to accept lower wages in exchange for “good vibez BRUH”…. And ya know what Brent? It works.
It’s simply money. Also, to add about the wireless headphones cons; no matter how expensive they are they will never sound remotely close to wired headphones because the current Bluetooth technology can’t transfer the full audio sizes.
And it makes more plastic/paper waste from it, since the phone and charger sold separately and requires different box package. Also you are right, wireless headphone has higher sound latency compared to wired headphones. There's a feature called "Super low latency" in some recent high-end wireless headphones, but that feature makes the battery life of those headphones much worse
My Sony Wf1000 support LDAC and so does my Fold 3 so they sound pretty phenomenal but I paid 2100 for the combo so yeah it's not worth it. I agree with your sentiment but what I'm saying is it's getting closer I guess
ultra wide band headphones are bluetooth on steriods and have literally everything about them better. All downsides are gone and all strengths are 10x better
Thank you for covering this topic. An extremely heartbreaking case of the headphone jack removal for me was Fairphone, the allegedly pro environment and pro consumer company. I will give them credit for their phone's repairability, but the removal of the jack right as they launched €100 wireless Fairphpne earbuds was extremely disheartening.
It hurt so much when they did that... i want to support them so bad but WHY would they remove the jack. Especially considering their customer base consists of environmentally conscious, tech literate people. I wish we had more choices for sustainable phones but alas.
Genuinely the most baffling decision. This sort of move makes business sense for Apple because they have a huge loyal following which allows them to get away with just about anything and to lesser extent Samsung. Pretty much every other smartphone manufacturer however is already basically fighting for scraps and keeping those features could come a long way with pulling some people away from Apple and Samsung.
Less ports, less rhing that can go broke, more special stuff more items from them you need to buy Problem is not the lack of a headphone jack , since they basssicly created lightning/usbC headphones like every thing evolves, problem is that if you do that and use it like that that you cant charge qnd bassicly it could stand in youre way in life and productivity! So then they upgrade bluetooth airpods from 2 to 6 hours use bassicly.....the problem gives a problem on q problem that they need to solve.why they always said back in the day.....first gen problems
i feel also that the push towards eliminating more features from phones and still charging 4 figures for them is a move to make the modern consumer more accepting and willing to pay brands more money for lower quality and lower technological freedom to do what you want to do with your device, so that even more redundancies can be capitalized off of in the future with little to no hesitation or questioning from the majority of consumers
Tbh removing the jack, charger, and headphones kills flagship devices altogether. Even midranges have lost their jacks. Basically smartphones are being shipped incompletely because of greenwashing.
It's not even greenwashing though. As Hugh pointed out, you'd need to be a literal moron think it's actually helping. At least "pinkwashing" goes to some shady charity that *pretends* to do work to stop breast cancer. No one, and I do mean no one, thinks that making you order *more* products with *more* plastic and cardboard and gas used for shipping and stuff, is more environmentally friendly, than just bundling it.
Tbf some midrange and gaming phones have more features to fit than those flagships. Something companies didn't or do not want to think of in the first place
I'm glad you straight up called out that it's exactly "to sell the chargers/earbuds as a separate price" instead of finding hoops around the excuse like most sponsored RUclipsrs said lmao. Like I completely get why other companies followed suit, it *worked* for Apple and I kinda commend them for doing that. Apple's so big that people are willing to adapt to the most ridiculous trends and pay more money for them (if it was a small company that started it, they'll get FLAMES for it), but it still doesn't make it right at all. If only companies could just be honest that they really wanted money more than anything.
Bingo. Hence the reason I tend to stick with brands I know. Even though I don't use the headphone jack, I take comfort knowing that I have it available to me. And having expandable storage is also another big factor when I go to buy a new phone.
Tbh I like the old school earphones with a plug rather than by bluetooth. Idfc if wireless are getting more and more advanced but wired are still reliable till this day
If lg did some marketing they would still be afloat and sony has both those features but their names are confusing AF. I mean they can name their Playstation simple but the phone names are 30 damn letters now
@@ericsmith1878 sorry but sony likes to experiment with design too much. Either chins or bezels or 21:9 aspect ratio. I prefer full-screen round-corners phones
You're kinda late to the party, lewis Rossman and Linus MKBHD and practically every tech RUclipsr talked about this, however I don't mean to take away from the video it is definitely very informative and a well made video that I will enjoy
@@asphyxia9927 It is a name, the spelling is very unusual though, that's why I thought it might be helpful to point out how to spell it. His last name especially has rather unusual spelling so even watching the channel for like 3 years I only noticed the second n a few months ago
@@asphyxia9927 I'm actually not late. And LTT's R2R video was my favorite! What I mean with: "All tech review channels should take this as an example." Is: That they should include anti consumer moves (like headphone jack removal etc.), repairability and sustainability in their regular tech reviews and not just leave it out, so companies can get away with it. In my opinion, they should criticize it every time.
Great video! I was just talking (complaining lol) to my wife how Samsung is forcing customers to spend $1200 for features they used to have on $800-1000 phones (1440p display, more Ram and storage) The S20 is the last Samsung phone that has a 6.2 inch display AND more Ram AND SD card slot! Now $1000 buys you a 1080p, 128GB phone with 8GB of Ram! Not cool!
@@mr.techie8565 If the company wants to offer less, they should charge less. If one year, you’re $1k phone has 8GB of RAM and the next, it has 6GB, why would anyone want to buy your new phone at $1k? It’s a step backwards.
This is exactly why for my current phone I bought an LG Velvet just before LG pulled their phones off the market. I know there are phones with better specs but without wanting to shell out over £1k for an Asus phone I find it is perfectly capable for all my needs and will be until the time its battery dies. And it comes with a headphone jack included while still being rated water resistant. All for £400. It is a shame LG got pushed out the phone market but it's obvious that in our current consoomer scociety a brand that does something half decent for their customers will only suceed if it is a giant and can afford the marketing expenses.
Right on. Headphone jack is really useful in so many situations. It is a shame consumers have no say and just need to accept these changes planned to extract more money from them.
Thank you for this.. You might be one of the few respectable youtuber left in the tech world. You called them out on most of their bs. My biggest pet peeve with those shitty buds is that not only they are designed to be disposable but it is impossible to properly take care of these tiny batteries. They are constantly being charged to the max because of the way you store them.. Which in return diminishes even further their lifespans. Also one battery usually dies faster than the other because of the way those buds connect via Bluetooth (one master and one slave). Those buds are honestly one of the worst piece of technology ever invented.
It's such crap that they stopped including a charger in the box right when USB-C was taking over. So many people did not have a USB-C charger to go with the included cable.
I'm holding on to my LG V60 because of it's headphone jack, MicroSD and a giant battery. I want to add that I think its hilarious that Apple Music supports Hi-fi audio but it's most expensive wireless earbuds doesn't.
ABT (Apple Bait Theory) = when Android companies follow Apple's terrible practices and further drive their own customers to Apple instead as the differences start to disappear (the exact reason you probably bought an android phone in the first place; *not* being an iPhone) After all why buy an android if it's just going to be essentially a worse iPhone after a few months?
nowadays I only buy samsung because of the operating system; I can easily replace the stock bloatware/spyware and degoogle it via Lineage without gapps; plus developing for Android is a breeze (you can get away with a 100% free membership plus you root/jailbreak the device without a hitch; on ios you need to pay a $100 license even to make one app without the f'n restrictions they impose and you need also one of those macs)
@@ventilate4267 They've made it alot harder to root their modern phones requiring you to unlock the bootloader which isn't even possible on up to date s21's and i assume s22's atleast if it has a snapdragon chip and not exynos.
"we will no longer include a charger with our phones" "if you use a charger other than the one provided with the device or made by us, your warranty is void"
The charging port and sim card tray are the next in line for removal in a couple of years. It'll be mainstream once Apple commercialised it. You can't avoid the inevitable, and it's only a matter of time, not why but when. We're getting closer and closer to the portless phone every year and don't seem to be slowing down anytime.
Tbh this is true. I know charging port will be next since EU want smartphone manufacturers to use USB-C plug but we all know Apple can find loopholes in it
As far as i am concerned. Having more charging bricks isn’t a big deal. None of them will go into the trash because they are small enough to put away and use for later or if someone needs one i could hand them one of mine. I cant stand it when i hear about its all about the environment when it is obvious it is to increase sales. If it was about the environment they could wash their hands from it and let another company sell you one.
I can remember in the UK when you bought an electronic product it rarely came with a plug fitted so everyone had to wire it up themselves. I agree with you about the headphones. I much prefer wired ones for ease of use, sound quality and longevity. For audio production Bluetooth is useless as it adds far too much latency.
simple: by doing that they simply forced you to buy additional things. apple hopes that by buying their phone without charger or headphone jack you will be tempted to additionally buy their totally overpriced charger and airpods
I had to even purchase a new fast charger for my S22 Ultra. Otherwise the phone would charge in 8+ hours from 0-100%. I really miss the chargers that they previously included in the box. And as you said. It certainly isn't environmentally good to have to buy a charger afterwards, because that needs more traveling and unnecessarily packaging.
I have just bought the Asus ZenFone 8 , I haven't used a phone that has done so much things right whilst being small having a 3.5mm jack and being water resistant, Its the absolutely best phone I've ever had since the Galaxy S3. I had a Huawei P30 Pro before and I have been through several annoying usb C to 3.5mm jack's which all had interference and horrible sound. I'm glad I can finally use all sorts of headphones without worry now.
The whole Zenfone line is a complete step above flagships, made the switch with the Zenfone 3 in 2016 and never looked back. I'm saving up for the 8 or seeing if they will release the flip in usa.
Zenphones are great, use full thickness gorilla glass, i didn't even use a screen protector or case and it really lasted. They don't alway sell a good range here, and i wasn't looking for the capability of their flagships
It all boils down to more income for the company. Do you ever think those tech companies care for the environment? They are all in for the profit and we are all paying more for something less they offer.
Used to be a Samsung fan back in the days, the days when Samsung were doing the opposite of what Apple is doing and going as far as making a series poking fun of Apple: the iPhone notch family, lack of expendable storage... . Nowadays they copied everything Apple does from removing the headphone jack to the multiples high-end devices type (Samsung: e, normal, plus, ultra, Apple: Mini, normal, Pro, Pro Max) and even removing the expendable storage on high end devices; the extra money is too important for these companies than Fan Service nowadays.
Honestly at this point no matter what phone you get it almost always feels like you're going to compromise on something. Surprisingly though I didn't get to feel that when I went with a Sony Xperia. Glad I did, this phone is an example of how a true flagship device should look like.
agree. I've bought a new phone recently, and yeah, it has no headphone jack and such. And i'm still keeping my old, trusty Huawei P30 around, sure it doesn't have a microSD slot, but 128GB for the phone i'd use to listening to music, no hassle. And yeah, what a better way to listen to music = with a WIRED headset nonetheless
I wouldn't mind wireless headphones so much if there was a set standard everyone followed, Bluetooth is fragmented into multiple standards that keep changing and none of them work as well as a wired headphone, and likely never will.
Planned obsolescence is a blight. Remember when HP printers were so tough you could practically hit them with a car? HP, in their infinite wisdom, decided that it wasn't as important to have happy customers as it was to produce billions of tons of cheap plastic........ waste. I'm sure it's the same with headphones.
Hey Hugh, I completely agree on the charger topic here. I switched from a OnePlus 5T to a Google Pixel 6 last year. The Pixel obviously came without a charger but the cable was USB-C on both sides. The OP5T still had a USB-A charger and wasn't even compatible with the Pixel 6 (OnePlus uses VOOC and Google uses USB-PD). Fortunately Apple also uses USB-PD and I can use my Google charger for both my company iPhone and my private Pixel. If we really want to make chargers more economically friendly we don't only need to make them mechanically compatible, but also electrically. Sure companies will claim that this throttles innovation, but in the end this will reduce the ecological footprint of chargers. For the headphones, I am not sure sure. I personally use over-ear headphones (Bose QC35 II to be precise) and they have replaceable cushions and also seem to be screwed together. I'd appreciate a repair check from you for this model though.
Their biggest con is getting people to buy a phone that you will never truly own. It may be in your pocket. You might have paid them handsomely for it. But it's still owned by its maker and the supplier of its operating system who change it, adjust it, alter your personal preferences, add unwanted and often undeletable apps etc That's a crime but they did tell you somewhere in their 250 page microprinted T & Cs - so their conscience is clear at least... PS. Imagine if housebuilders or auto companies had the right to pop in unannounced to change your seat, mirror and radio settings. Or to move your furniture around. That's the arrogance of these companies.
A good point that low mid range smartphones have these features but high end ones don't. It seems like an idiot with money trap, buying a high end smartphone. It's like those people who pay 50$ for a white t-shirt instead of just 5$ because it has a tiny emblem on it. Companies want idiots with money to buy their products. And it makes sense since Apple is clearly dominating the US market, your average American has enough money to just toss for the latest iPhone, while in Asia and Europe people opt for cheaper phones. Not saying iPhones aren't totally worth it but if you really love Apple buy used, what's the damn difference? It's all about wealth.
I'm from the Caribbean so natural disasters from hurricanes is fairly typical. With the removal of the headphone jack and FM radio chips, no one can listen to FM radio freely in times of emergency, like there's any damn signal when your powerlines are all over the road and in your yards, people so privileged nowadays they don't even notice the lack of foresight and bullcrap. But you know how it is with privileged customers and Corporate greed, that's a third world problem.....Ukraine? That's a you problem. It's honestly disgusting and despicable. I hope a lot more bigger RUclipsrs sing on these points and never stop singing it
Apple: “We are doing it for the environment”… Ok then, let’s talk about their iwatches. Back in the day a quality watch could last you for 20 years but their shitty battery iwatch is so expensive and will end up on the trash and they still release a new one every September making people buy and buy the new ones every year.
Stop shitting. You can replace the battery of an Apple Watch, yes it's a bit more expensive from replacing a normal phone battery, but it doesn't mean Apple Watch is a bad quality product that will die in a year or so. So instead of just bullshitting, at least be fucking objective you idiot.
Note9 still the best phone, now we just need someone to include all the new cameras, new updates and new functions for that phone. I mean it already has 2 extremely good cameras, a pen, NFC etc... but its missing out on updates and general new features but atleast it has a headphone jack.
That's why I am holding onto my note 9 for as long as I can. I actually cracked the screen recently and I had it repaired. Expandable memory, headphone jack and led indicator light. Just a few of the features that the note 9 has that these newer phones don't. Did I mention that you actually get a charger and headphones with your phone? It amazes me that people are willing to pay more to get less.
This is such a powerful video! But the sad part is, we’re still gonna buy from these big, money hungry, companies. I hope they do stop with their greediness and really care for what they’re promoting for.
The number of people in society who instantly go for such an obvious gimmick as wireless earphones is one of the things which sometimes makes it hard to go on.
I'll never buy a phone without headphone jack, SD card slot and a charger included. What infuriates me most is how this greenwashing bullshit is marketed.
The ultimate is the security patch update. "Sorry your phone is no longer supported, please see our website for your replacement" The EU are tackling this by banning manufacturers from selling their devices unless they provide a minimum on seven years of software support. That will Improve the situation for all of us.
What I love about the PC industry is you have channels like Gamers Nexus and LTT who have the guts to criticize and openly sift through corporate bs from companies like GIGABYTE with their faulty PSU’s or NZXT with the H110 that would catch on fire. And these channels will point out the good that some companies do like when Fractal recalled their torrent case. In the phone market there is much less of that and I believe that is due to the fact that not everyone has a PC, so you get a very large group of people with PC’s who are connected, but overall a smaller market. Then with phones it’s a lot of people, but the same group of people who are knowledgeable about phones is extremely small compared to the overall market. Still have the same voice, just so much smaller. There are definitely other reasons but I think what needs to happen to Apple, Samsung and Google, is an investigation by the FTC, and that’s the last thing I want, but it’s what needs to happen.
This is why I'm sticking with my LG V20. It has a headphone socket, a slot for an SD card and I can just swap the battery. The first thing I did after getting the thing was putting in an expanded battery, and to this day even with heavy usage, I get around three days on a charge.
There are plenty of alternatives that provide everything for less money. No matter what the PR says, it's all about higher profit margins and nothing more.
For companies and governments, we are only customers or people that pay taxes and fees. Environment is only an excuse. This is the world that we have to deal with :(
Great video and I'd really love to get the CEOs of these companies, strap them in with their eyelids forced open like Alex in A Clockwork Orange and ask them to try and debunk everything you are saying here. They know it's all about the money and passing on the cost and environmental impact onto the customer while at the same time showing how they cut back on packaging and environmental impact.
great video...I am happy to see some people speak out about the theft of these greedy companies ...no one should buy a new phone without a charger included in the box
Honestly, shady practices should be outlawed. Unfortunately, corruption amongst politicians is a big issue. These big tech companies have a big impact not only on the environment, but also on political decisions.
Heck, I still use my Lightning EarPods, dongle, Lightning cable, and power adapter that came with my iPhone 7 I bought almost 5 years ago! I just upgraded to the SE 3!
These problems start with a handful of customers being too stupid to say no to the first couple companies that pull this type of shenanigan. Then it becomes an issue for _all_ of us when _every_ company starts doing it and we run out of other places to spend our money. For the first time ever, last year I bought a phone and it did not coming with a charging brick. I was furious and would have returned it for a refund, but there was literally no one else that had a phone in this form factor who still offered a charging brick, so I had no option but to eat it.
A lot of people in the comments are saying "we need to stop these companies from removing ". How, though? It's gotten to the point that you can't just only buy phones with headphone jacks... because they mostly don't exist anymore!
Sony still makes high quality phones that have a 3.5mm jack at the top, a micro SD card slot and an IP68 rating. It is definitely possible for other companies to do that. Seems like companies are just trying to cut cost to increase profits.
If Sony made their phone with a 10x telephoto lens and had better night shooting capability, I'd dump my Samsung in an instant. I hate the fact that their flagships have removed features that Sony still keeps but dammit Samsung's cameras are still top tier.
Excellent video. I've gotten into plenty of arguments with people that insist that the constant removal of features in today's phones is anything other than pure corporate greed at the expense of their customers. It is amazing how people just believe the marketing BS that these companies spout, especially if it is coming from Apple. It is important to remember, any public company has one responsibility, to make the most money possible for their shareholders. If they are changing something it is because they believe it will make them more revenue or profit which should in turn will increase the share price.
Honestly i loved the Nokia era where they made phones which were completely different than others like the next model looked nothing like the previous. It's like different people designed them. But now it's the same phone with slightly different or higher specs and every phone looks the same you can barely tell the difference between two models.
Rule of thumb: If a tech company tells you they are doing it for the environment, then they are making you pay for it. End of story.
Duh
Not only tech company, it’s everyone including the government.
Tech companies don't do anything for the environment, and they still make you pay for it.
Plausible deniability.
Just go down the rabbit hole of ethanol gas on our fuel.
I wish companies would just be honest and say: "Yea, we removed a feature in order to sell it back to you. Its in our best interest to make more money, because we're a business. Nothing personal, just business." I'd respect them more.
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but that probably would be met with far more repercurssions.
There is something called Marketing, without marketing they would lose billions...and in the Marketing they dont use the truth
@@hedpt Marketing = Propaganda
This reminds me of a guy begging for money to drink.
He literally said he wanted to drink so was begging for that.
Remember, Samsung removed headphone jack in their midrange this year, meanwhile xiaomi, had removed the headphone jack in their midrange even earlier. This anti-consumer mentality needs to be stopped
If you're talking about the MiA2, then you'll be happy because it is the only midrange device I can think of without the headphone jack.
Their current midranger have this jack.
@@LexeLite mi 11 lite, Poco F3, Poco X3 GT?
my poco x3 pro still has headphone jack and i'm not even using any headphones on my phone
@@harisnaufal3259 Redmi line still have Headphone jack
How exactly do we stop it though? It's not as though everybody is going to stop buying cell phones out of protest over these things. They have us by the balls and they know it. That's where the consumer mentality has gotten us. At some point maybe we could have done something, but as far as I can see it's too little too late, because all of the manufacturers are going in the same direction regardless of whether we like it or not. These things are not done on a whim, they are planned out well in advance. I guarantee you there are already plans in the works for the deprecation of 4G devices now that 6G is being worked on, even if it's ten years or more out yet.
the ad at 0:13 from the company that removed headphone jack right after apple did :(
I know right poetry in motion :-)
Which phone will you use when your S10e goes out? I reckon you could keep buying used S10e units. Have you ever tried the xda custom ROM for when manufacturers inevitably stop supporting older models, even flagships?
@@SayAhh Well i used a p9 lite for i think two more years after its support ended whit basically no problems (except its originally small performance ofc)(Also its still used by today totally fine since i gave it away) so I'm sure that s10e would hold just fine for a few more years.
@@SayAhh no, I have no time for messing with custom ROMs and jailbreaking and all that. I have no plans of giving up my S10e. I can't get anything with microsd card, headphone jack, and fits in my hand as requirements Why spend money on new junk when they take away features I want and care about...
@@rossmanngroup "Jailbreaking" (rooting, CFW, etc) from a personal experience:
I basically bricked roughly 90% of the phones I used to own trying to root them at a minimum. The only two I succeeded with has been my old Nexus and my current Moto Play Z (the one with add-ons, but they baited people with the "DIY" and SDK add-ons idea, then pulled it down a while after ._. ).
The worst brick I have (yup still got) is the Zenfone ML511 (A00Z) that won't take *any* manufacturer signed firmware (not even the Chinese model firmware) and yet it's based on the X86 architecture. Trying to unlock the bootloader by passing a string to the bootloader messed the signing key and perma-bricked the phone.
This is probably the most egregious anti Right-to-Repair move.
Would be nice for repurposing reasons to have a solder-pad behind the battery called "UEFI" and have that boot like any UEFI firmware does currently and maybe have the UEFI mode burnt into a ROM area in the SoC. (Would be easier to quickly compile a bunch of kernels to see what one boots and thus easier to program. Also It'd be obvious if the phone keeps showing "UEFI" in big writing that it maybe tampered with assuming "evil-maid" attacks, so their "security" argument falls apart)
My S10e is nothing but screen and still has a 3.5mm audio jack. Apple and thus, the other companies, are completely full of it. And as someone who works on phones and tablets daily, there is plenty of space to put in a 3.5mm jack with better packaging in the internals.
That’s great…but…do you use the jack?
@@dylanmaki2482 yeah I do. All the time.
@@dylanmaki2482 yep
Sony Xperias still ship with a 3.5mm jack AND an SD card slot.
Yes but at the bottom the bezel is slightly bigger than the top bezel with a camera and kinda annoys me for the s10e because iPhone bezel is the same size everywhere.
Absolutely spot on. I cringe when tech youtubers who dont know about phone internals justify this removal.
@mrfoxesite complete b.s.. they are paid and paid big!
Spot on, nothing wrong with a company wanting to make money but it's the lies I just can't stand. Its not about making a better product, saving the environment or creating ease of use, it's about money.
Exactly! It was always about money. Same with the electric cars, saving the planet, blah, blah, blah. All lies to guilt trip us believing that we are saving mother earth. Rules for you, not for me.
Right. They could be honest and just tell us they have a new product, and people would be like "ok".
Anyone with a functioning brain could put 2 and 2 together and see that they wanted to sell more expensive products. People would still buy it even if they told the truth.
@@ihavenonamek733 but electric cars are better… the best for the environment would be public transport I think
@@bleuebloom you mean strip mining for rare eath minerals? The fact that our own grid can't support green? The fact that green causes more impact to the environment? Recycling causes more damage? Do research before debating.
For me, a wired headphones means reliability (never had my wired headphones go out of battery) and audio quality (no weird disconections or stuttering if i left the phone somewhere)
But i recently came across another argument for headphones jack: it's MUCH simpler and intuitive to use. I installed a Bluetooth sound system in our living room, yet my mother keep listening to music on the phone's speaker. But when she's in the office we have, she intuitively plug the audio cord laying on the desk into her phone, because she knows that this means music and of she goes...
For someone like apple that care about the user experience and pretend to be more accessible, i think a headphone jack is a must
Sometimes airplay is more convenient as the speaker is already on and streaming to it is only ever a few taps away. Plus it’s multi room capability and lossless audio quality.
@@JulianLopez-kx1zo but i don't own any airplay audio stuff.
And i'm not going to replace :
- My living room hi fi setup
- my bedroom audio setup
- all the speakers we have at home (lile the one in the office mentioned before)
- cars stereo (with an s because there's my dad's, mom's and mine)
- etc.
JUST BECAUSE MY MOTHER GOT A NEW PHONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A F**KING HEADPHONE JACK.
Talk about being eco friendly when you're suggesting people replace all their stuff because you did something that "takes courage to do"
@@InformatrIIcks you can try using the AirPort Express, it has airplay capability and a aux line out
@@JulianLopez-kx1zo No, I JUST WANT MY F*CKING HEADPHONE JACK BACK 😂
Unless the BT sound thingy has NFC, so just touch and play.
Samsung: Mocks Apple for removing Headphone Jack
Samsung: Removes Headphone Jack
Samsung: Mocks Apple for removing included charger
Samsung: Removes Charger
Hmmmm, I am a Samsung user myself but yeah... Samsung should stop Mocking Apple and then doing the thing they mocked....
how's GOS?
@@ChrisTian-sd5yq huh?
Just got an S22 and I was pissed when no charger in the box. How can you advertise ultra fast charging if the necessary hardware is not included?
2014, they mocked the iPhone's non removable battery in the ad "wall huggers". Guess what was released 2015?
even upcoming new a series (a13 5g / a33 / a53 / a73) now going remove charger and headphone.
even entry - midrange phone got same applied as flagship things. wtf going on samsung.
(btw. i like to use samsung phone, but in same time i hate samsung in this way too.)
"technology is evolving"
No. Etymotic ER4, wired earphones made in 1991 still sounds better than most of high end TWS today
So true..
Yeah, I'll consider those TWS when they're as good as the wired one.
It’s all about going green. Green as in money (profits).
Striking to their brand ,that's what Apple is about
Exactly
Best comment 👏
We need to bully these companies into giving us the 3.5mm headphone jack, its so annoying. We can't let these companies keep ripping us off by getting rid of stuff from the box.
I don't mind for compannies stopped including heaphones or chargers in the box. but 3.5mm jack needs to stay. Bluetooth isn't supiorior technology over wired just more convienient. same as Wifi.
@@KimasM Even worse Bluetooth compresses your audio to about 1/8th of its original size which is quite noticeable
They won't budge until they loose too much in sales. If you're happy to use Android, look at a company called Vivo. Most of their phones have 3.5mm headphone jacks, dual nano sim and some models are dual nano sim plus microSD.
I’m not really that bothered by the removal of the headphone jack as i never use earphones unless I’m on an aeroplane and even when I do I just an adapter.
Pay more for the same or even less functionalities: a clear money maker. Great content Hugh!
I'm just going to very quietly say that the Sony Xperia phones still offer headphone jacks, dual front speakers, USB-C charging, including both the cable and the brick in the box, expandable storage, dual SIM readers, edge-to-edge displays, 120hz screens that are 4K and without a cutout or notch. They're also ultrawide like most modern computer monitors and support HDR. They even have dedicated camera buttons and native PS4 controller support out of the box, so they're fun little emulator phones too. They also have the full water and dust resistance as well.
I'm not saying they're above it all. I can't say they're superheroes of the phone world. I could make this post and discover that the Sony Xperia 1 iv has taken a dire turn. But, at least consider them when buying your next phone. They're really fun, powerful little phones with some uniqueness and personality. Apparently they are comparatively easy to fix too.
Most monitors aren't ultra wide. The 16:9 aspect ratio phones used to be is what most have monitor and TV wise.
but for that you are paying more for those phones which is why they aren't beating apple or samsung why buy a xperia 3 for 1.2 k when i can get a galaxy s22 for only 700 even if it has slightly less
@@mr.breadman4181 I mean the $1200 number is in line with Samsung's actual flagship, the S22 Ultra, which has a lower resolution screen, no headphone jack, no micro sd support, but does have a battery the same size and a pen included.
@@nathansstuff1547 but point is the s22+ is just fine and still $300-$400 cheaper why waste an insane amount just for a headphone jack and slightly better screen and I'm 1000% fine with the s22's slightly lower resolution because I'd rather save the money
@@mr.breadman4181 Maybe someone wants those features in a flagship phone. Know I prefer having a headphone jack to not having one. I easily notice latency with Bluetooth headphones.
There's also honestly no reason for Samsung to not have one.
Consumers need to understand that wireless and wired has existed together for god knows how long. Why should we throw away the jack when we can use both
Why should we throw away floppy disks or dvds when we can still use them too?
@@anianii Floppys are just irrelevant, DVDs are still used for movie buying to a point
@@anianii This is the stupidest thing I have read in a while. Wired and wireless each have their pros and cons which contrast each other with one having what the other lacks and making them capable to coexist with each other and be used depending on the consumer's need. Floppy disks while present during the transition to cd, had no real advantage over cd making them clearly inferior and as such phased out
@@anianii Well average tech company coolaid drinker, Disk media is still utilized for media. There's a reason why high end headphones are wired as opposed to wireless.
@@HChristoph You mean Blu-Rays? DVDs have been garbage for over a decade because they're kneecapped at piss poor 480i (not even 480p) with horrendous color and audio problems.
Funny how a mid-range phone actually gets you more features than a high end one, huh? This video made me appreciate my A31 more. I have a headphone jack, a pair of original Samsung earbuds to go along with it, a charger and a cable... And guess what? It all came inside the box for 1/3 of the price of a flagship model 😉
And now samsung is removing the chargers even from the midrange phones.
and 1/3 the screen refresh rate, half the battery life, and absolutely none of the visuals. you pay cheap, you get cheap.
Yeah. Wireless headphones are crap. When my S9+ gives up the ghost it will probably be a midrange for the headphone jack for me.
Unfortunately it's all gone now. With the new A33 you would just get the charging cable like the flagship phones. It's just bad that Samsung does this to even entry level phones
Don't forget shit CPU, shit One UI, you got what you paid for, me as well, I have an A51 and I fucking hate One UI, in fact so much that I tripped Knox and flashed Android 12 Pixel Experience GSI, now I don't have access to all cameras but at least something that doesn't work like fucking shit and drops it's battery 30%!!! within night.
This man just exposed literally every major smartphone company.
Absolute legend.
I see u r a man of class
Indeed.
Don't forget Louis Rossmann too
no he didn't. The removal of a power brick is simply because of human nature. Few people plug it into bricks now. Even if they plug a cable it's normally to a computer, or battery pack.
Not really. Anyone who doesn't drink the corporate cool-aid knows they have been lying out their ass since the beginning. Maybe it will help give those shills a slap in the face though.
Worst thing apple ever did was popularize the removal of the headphone jack. This was and still is just ridiculous, there is literally no justification besides forcing people to buy wireless.
Exactly
Apple didn't popularize it, the companies that followed did
Let's not forget the removal of the MicroSD port to completely render you unable to expand the storage and no more dual-SIM either. Or when they decided to put non-removable batteries in these bricks. As you said, it all boils down to making more money, nickel and dime you as much as possible, squeeze you out of every last cent for shorter and shorter periods. They don't want you to use the same phone for over 4 years and even if you want to, add to that the lack of updates and support. Programs themselves dropping entire lines and models, the obfuscation and difficulty to apply the right to repair... Feels like mobile is already treading that infamously disgusting "you'll own nothing and be happy" Orwellian nightmare. Back to topic, for proper bluetooth phones I would rather get something like those Fiio adaptors that let you turn wired IEMs into bluetooth ones instead of these disposable TWS with their death clocks.
The SD Cards were literally only there because the older phones having a tonne of internal storage would have priced the phones stupidly. Internal storage can go up to like 1TB now. Why the F do you need to expand it? And there are plenty of Dual SIM phones still on the market. So please stop talking out of your a**
I can understand removing the SD slot as there is a good reason. The reason that put them on cheaper phones is due to bandwidth is not a issue. The high-end phones you have cameras capable of 8k and processors that capable of alot of bandwidth on bus. Even good fast speed class SD cards can't keep up and Likely people complain to much about issues. Then you got the fact most people don't know the difference between faster class SD card, or throw in whatever they have laying around, put apps on it and wondered why is slow, or don'twork correctly and call customer service complaining. I actually had to tell people they need a class 10, or U3 rated MicroSD card and over their head and don't think it worth spending the difference and only think capacity. So manufacturers eliminated it completely mainly for better experience for the mainstream consumers as they can't complain about poor video performance, poor pictures quality and apps crashing, or slow to load, missing files and etc. I wish they when to SD express like most professional broadcast gear but is much larger and likely reason they didn't? So yes the internal memory is much faster and better. MicroSD is outdated and can't keep up pretty much, plus in some case unreliable. Even broadcast and professional level equipment moved away from MicroSD a while ago.
Now to be honest I wish they kept the card slot anyways as some use to store music lossless files which MicroSD is good enough but I get why they removed it on faster phones and reason it still on cheap to midrange phones.
Now the headphones jack there is no excuse but due to pure greed to get people to buy wireless buds. The excuse they use claiming they had to fold display controller under display as edge to edge display the reason is not valid as could have moved headphone jack to top, or side and LG been doing it even with edge to edge display, so definitely could have been done.
Wait, I don't remember any manufacturers removing the dual sim support
@@ashar8192 cough.... Apple..... cough....
Not only that but they now have done away with the 3G network and signals to force us to upgrade our phones to so called lightning fast 5G networks and its 5G phones: I am using 2G now and it is fine in its upload and downloads speeds on its network though a little slow at times; All this so call fast upload and download crap just so that they can make more unnecessary money for themselves after they have so much of it already;
It's disappointing to see Samsung removing the headphone jack and charger even for their lower end phones. I'm glad that Xiaomi is still giving you chargers even with their latest Mi 12 Pro. I hope they never stop doing that, or at least give you a choice if you want the charger or not.
Also, I imagine that by using GaN tech and a slim form factor, companies can certainly make a smaller box that can also fit a small but powerful charger.
they are doing it to the midrange now wtf
It's still the dumbest thing they've done ,and the most inconvenient thing that has taken over the phone industry
It makes them more money, so from their perspective it's not dumb but a success.
@@riley8385 true that, the real dumb ones are the people allowing them to continue doing so😂
I'll insist on phones with jacks and memory card slots for as long as they're available. While I love wireless headphones, it's nice to have the plugin option when the wireless is charging or unavailable.
Sony Xperia
Same, if there are no new phones available with these features I'll just stop upgrading altogether. And if I have to fix my older devices or flash new ROMs to keep them going I'll fucking do it, screw these greedy corporations.
Yep. No headphone jack, no buy.
I came up in the 80's when everyone was talking about rampant corporate greed; it's been an amazing shift from the cynicism to the optimism of the 90's (itself kind of poisonous on a social level in the US) into the ugly reality of the modern age. Unfortunately, I don't know what we can do. It's trivial for these corporations to do as they please and set trends that most people will go out of their way to defend to protect their own egos.
Mass movements like right to repair and right to own are common sense things that we used to enjoy, but ultimately its the money that owns our politics and our culture. Money has time, the attention of the masses doesn't. I hate thinking this way, but we see it in everything from local laws to global warming. :(
It is the money also that own our Politicians!!!
@@isaiahperry3382 Unfortunately very true
Well a start would be, don't buy products they remove features from. If Apple had seen a drop in sales due to the 3.5mm jack being removed, they would have returned it.
@@shaydza Sound like more of Gods wisdom and understanding to me: well said!!!
It's not the companies' responsibility to be generous. Sure they are greedy, but it ultimately falls on the consumer to choose which product to buy. Unfortunately it seems like the masses just love being fucked over.
My phone still has the headphone jack and sd card slot, and has served me well for 6 years now.
Sadly is getting slow and sluggish, and it can't take too many apps, to the point I'm considering buying a new phone, but I don't want to lose those little conveniences :'(
same here. i changed my old asus just almost 2 years ago, it was hard to find something with the headphone jack and micro sd slot. i finally found the note 10 lite with a promotion. i still use both things and if i will not find another phone with those i will repair this one lol. good luck to find your next device :-)
You should use GSM arena for phone shopping, you can use their phone finder to narrow down phones by features (SD card slot, 3.5 jack, OLED screen, etc.) I used it to find my current phone, and will use it to find my next phone.
@@anivicuno9473 Helpful info, thanks.
The Sony Xperia 1 line up still has these features.
Nothing these companies do is for the benefit of the customer or environment. Don't even pretend it is. Everything is profit-based now in this world and anything that can be done to squeak out just a little more is what companies will do.
Brent - “come on maaaaannn “ - “they” care about your personal well being, it’s why they go on n on about diversity equality equity inclusion sustainability, and whatever feel good emotional buzzwords will get Gen Zers salivating n willing to accept lower wages in exchange for “good vibez BRUH”…. And ya know what Brent?
It works.
I wish LG still made phones. They never cut the 3.5mm audio jack and their QuadDACs were the best in the industry and loved by audiophiles.
How about the lg wing that had no headphone jack.
@@green9227 We don't talk about the LG Wing.
It’s simply money. Also, to add about the wireless headphones cons; no matter how expensive they are they will never sound remotely close to wired headphones because the current Bluetooth technology can’t transfer the full audio sizes.
And it makes more plastic/paper waste from it, since the phone and charger sold separately and requires different box package. Also you are right, wireless headphone has higher sound latency compared to wired headphones. There's a feature called "Super low latency" in some recent high-end wireless headphones, but that feature makes the battery life of those headphones much worse
My Sony Wf1000 support LDAC and so does my Fold 3 so they sound pretty phenomenal but I paid 2100 for the combo so yeah it's not worth it. I agree with your sentiment but what I'm saying is it's getting closer I guess
If you want rally good sound you anyway needs to use external ADC
ultra wide band headphones are bluetooth on steriods and have literally everything about them better. All downsides are gone and all strengths are 10x better
Honestly I'm thinking of the same thing they already have more than enough all this environment makes no sense
Thank you for covering this topic. An extremely heartbreaking case of the headphone jack removal for me was Fairphone, the allegedly pro environment and pro consumer company. I will give them credit for their phone's repairability, but the removal of the jack right as they launched €100 wireless Fairphpne earbuds was extremely disheartening.
This. And they claimed it was for waterproofing as well..
It hurt so much when they did that... i want to support them so bad but WHY would they remove the jack. Especially considering their customer base consists of environmentally conscious, tech literate people. I wish we had more choices for sustainable phones but alas.
Genuinely the most baffling decision. This sort of move makes business sense for Apple because they have a huge loyal following which allows them to get away with just about anything and to lesser extent Samsung.
Pretty much every other smartphone manufacturer however is already basically fighting for scraps and keeping those features could come a long way with pulling some people away from Apple and Samsung.
Finally,Somebody big said one of my Biggest Gripes surrounding this Crappy Trend of Phone Companies nowadays. Thanks Hugh for spreading the Message
Weird capitalization
Less ports, less rhing that can go broke, more special stuff more items from them you need to buy
Problem is not the lack of a headphone jack , since they basssicly created lightning/usbC headphones like every thing evolves, problem is that if you do that and use it like that that you cant charge qnd bassicly it could stand in youre way in life and productivity! So then they upgrade bluetooth airpods from 2 to 6 hours use bassicly.....the problem gives a problem on q problem that they need to solve.why they always said back in the day.....first gen problems
i feel also that the push towards eliminating more features from phones and still charging 4 figures for them is a move to make the modern consumer more accepting and willing to pay brands more money for lower quality and lower technological freedom to do what you want to do with your device, so that even more redundancies can be capitalized off of in the future with little to no hesitation or questioning from the majority of consumers
Tbh removing the jack, charger, and headphones kills flagship devices altogether. Even midranges have lost their jacks. Basically smartphones are being shipped incompletely because of greenwashing.
It's not even greenwashing though. As Hugh pointed out, you'd need to be a literal moron think it's actually helping. At least "pinkwashing" goes to some shady charity that *pretends* to do work to stop breast cancer.
No one, and I do mean no one, thinks that making you order *more* products with *more* plastic and cardboard and gas used for shipping and stuff, is more environmentally friendly, than just bundling it.
Tbf some midrange and gaming phones have more features to fit than those flagships. Something companies didn't or do not want to think of in the first place
@Monochromatik except build quality, specs, or a price tag that non-subhuman monsters named Musk or Bezos can afford
@Monochromatik *way* too many compromises for a 500+eur phone
@Monochromatik Fell to the Sony curse of no advertising and nonsense names
It reminds me of how the original Nintendo came with the system, two controllers, zapper, cables, and two full games. 🤯
Apple is now an accessory company. They will be the first to not have a charging port and everyone will follow shortly after.
While the EU is forcing them to use usb C on their iphones, they might as well make it portless
I'm glad you straight up called out that it's exactly "to sell the chargers/earbuds as a separate price" instead of finding hoops around the excuse like most sponsored RUclipsrs said lmao.
Like I completely get why other companies followed suit, it *worked* for Apple and I kinda commend them for doing that. Apple's so big that people are willing to adapt to the most ridiculous trends and pay more money for them (if it was a small company that started it, they'll get FLAMES for it), but it still doesn't make it right at all. If only companies could just be honest that they really wanted money more than anything.
I can’t wait to rent my phone and pay a subscription for it
That's just having a phone with a phone plan
already a thing with some providers
Already a thing with every single provider.
mobile phone contracts say hi
Thank you for the video! All people should Know about this, and stop thinking that companies are our friends
Feels good to use a phone with a 3.5 jack and large capacity SD card in it.
Agreed
Bingo. Hence the reason I tend to stick with brands I know. Even though I don't use the headphone jack, I take comfort knowing that I have it available to me. And having expandable storage is also another big factor when I go to buy a new phone.
Tbh I like the old school earphones with a plug rather than by bluetooth. Idfc if wireless are getting more and more advanced but wired are still reliable till this day
If lg did some marketing they would still be afloat and sony has both those features but their names are confusing AF. I mean they can name their Playstation simple but the phone names are 30 damn letters now
Indeed, generally like my Redmi note 8 pro, if I want 512gb that's a very cheap SD card fix 😂🤣
Samsung s10 - the last phone that had everything you needed
@@ericsmith1878 sorry but sony likes to experiment with design too much. Either chins or bezels or 21:9 aspect ratio. I prefer full-screen round-corners phones
Finally, someone who is actually criticizing these anti consumer moves.
All tech review channels should take this as an example.
Thank you!
You're kinda late to the party, lewis Rossman and Linus MKBHD and practically every tech RUclipsr talked about this, however I don't mean to take away from the video it is definitely very informative and a well made video that I will enjoy
@@asphyxia9927 Just of note, Louis Rossmann's name is spelled with that version of Louis and 2 n's at the end of Rossman. Still great point though
@@HChristoph such a weird name anyways 😭
@@asphyxia9927 It is a name, the spelling is very unusual though, that's why I thought it might be helpful to point out how to spell it. His last name especially has rather unusual spelling so even watching the channel for like 3 years I only noticed the second n a few months ago
@@asphyxia9927 I'm actually not late.
And LTT's R2R video was my favorite!
What I mean with: "All tech review channels should take this as an example." Is:
That they should include anti consumer moves (like headphone jack removal etc.), repairability and sustainability in their regular tech reviews and not just leave it out, so companies can get away with it.
In my opinion, they should criticize it every time.
Finally a honest reviewer telling the truth!
Great video! I was just talking (complaining lol) to my wife how Samsung is forcing customers to spend $1200 for features they used to have on $800-1000 phones (1440p display, more Ram and storage) The S20 is the last Samsung phone that has a 6.2 inch display AND more Ram AND SD card slot! Now $1000 buys you a 1080p, 128GB phone with 8GB of Ram! Not cool!
4GB RAM is plenty for an iPhone...even 2GB isn't bad
@@mr.techie8565 If the company wants to offer less, they should charge less. If one year, you’re $1k phone has 8GB of RAM and the next, it has 6GB, why would anyone want to buy your new phone at $1k? It’s a step backwards.
@@johnbuscher ikr
This is exactly why for my current phone I bought an LG Velvet just before LG pulled their phones off the market. I know there are phones with better specs but without wanting to shell out over £1k for an Asus phone I find it is perfectly capable for all my needs and will be until the time its battery dies. And it comes with a headphone jack included while still being rated water resistant. All for £400. It is a shame LG got pushed out the phone market but it's obvious that in our current consoomer scociety a brand that does something half decent for their customers will only suceed if it is a giant and can afford the marketing expenses.
It's all about money....
Apple says it's for the environment, but those costs are put onto us
Right on. Headphone jack is really useful in so many situations. It is a shame consumers have no say and just need to accept these changes planned to extract more money from them.
Thank you for this.. You might be one of the few respectable youtuber left in the tech world.
You called them out on most of their bs.
My biggest pet peeve with those shitty buds is that not only they are designed to be disposable but it is impossible to properly take care of these tiny batteries. They are constantly being charged to the max because of the way you store them.. Which in return diminishes even further their lifespans. Also one battery usually dies faster than the other because of the way those buds connect via Bluetooth (one master and one slave).
Those buds are honestly one of the worst piece of technology ever invented.
I didn't know BT connected in that way, thx for this comment
I have noticed this with my own earbuds. The left one will die when the right one still has 40% charge left!
It's such crap that they stopped including a charger in the box right when USB-C was taking over. So many people did not have a USB-C charger to go with the included cable.
I wonder when it will become normal for new phones to ship with the phone sold separately...
What about going the nintendo route and just having to pay extra for a charger.
I'm holding on to my LG V60 because of it's headphone jack, MicroSD and a giant battery.
I want to add that I think its hilarious that Apple Music supports Hi-fi audio but it's most expensive wireless earbuds doesn't.
ABT (Apple Bait Theory) = when Android companies follow Apple's terrible practices and further drive their own customers to Apple instead as the differences start to disappear (the exact reason you probably bought an android phone in the first place; *not* being an iPhone)
After all why buy an android if it's just going to be essentially a worse iPhone after a few months?
Bro wtf this is 5Head
nowadays I only buy samsung because of the operating system; I can easily replace the stock bloatware/spyware and degoogle it via Lineage without gapps; plus developing for Android is a breeze (you can get away with a 100% free membership plus you root/jailbreak the device without a hitch; on ios you need to pay a $100 license even to make one app without the f'n restrictions they impose and you need also one of those macs)
@@alerey4363 can you even really do that with modern Samsung's? I haven't really seen anything past s9s
@@ventilate4267 They've made it alot harder to root their modern phones requiring you to unlock the bootloader which isn't even possible on up to date s21's and i assume s22's atleast if it has a snapdragon chip and not exynos.
@@hawkshot1025 yeah i thought so
"we will no longer include a charger with our phones"
"if you use a charger other than the one provided with the device or made by us, your warranty is void"
The charging port and sim card tray are the next in line for removal in a couple of years. It'll be mainstream once Apple commercialised it.
You can't avoid the inevitable, and it's only a matter of time, not why but when.
We're getting closer and closer to the portless phone every year and don't seem to be slowing down anytime.
Tbh this is true. I know charging port will be next since EU want smartphone manufacturers to use USB-C plug but we all know Apple can find loopholes in it
As far as i am concerned. Having more charging bricks isn’t a big deal. None of them will go into the trash because they are small enough to put away and use for later or if someone needs one i could hand them one of mine. I cant stand it when i hear about its all about the environment when it is obvious it is to increase sales. If it was about the environment they could wash their hands from it and let another company sell you one.
a ton of phones already have e-sims, just not all carriers use it.
Next thing: screens. The sheep buy it, and the haters scream at them but the companies are deaf, focused on money
Just dont buy it
I can remember in the UK when you bought an electronic product it rarely came with a plug fitted so everyone had to wire it up themselves.
I agree with you about the headphones. I much prefer wired ones for ease of use, sound quality and longevity. For audio production Bluetooth is useless as it adds far too much latency.
simple: by doing that they simply forced you to buy additional things. apple hopes that by buying their phone without charger or headphone jack you will be tempted to additionally buy their totally overpriced charger and airpods
Also to lower manufacturing and shipping costs for themselves
I had to even purchase a new fast charger for my S22 Ultra. Otherwise the phone would charge in 8+ hours from 0-100%. I really miss the chargers that they previously included in the box. And as you said. It certainly isn't environmentally good to have to buy a charger afterwards, because that needs more traveling and unnecessarily packaging.
I have just bought the Asus ZenFone 8 , I haven't used a phone that has done so much things right whilst being small having a 3.5mm jack and being water resistant, Its the absolutely best phone I've ever had since the Galaxy S3. I had a Huawei P30 Pro before and I have been through several annoying usb C to 3.5mm jack's which all had interference and horrible sound. I'm glad I can finally use all sorts of headphones without worry now.
The whole Zenfone line is a complete step above flagships, made the switch with the Zenfone 3 in 2016 and never looked back. I'm saving up for the 8 or seeing if they will release the flip in usa.
Zenphones are great, use full thickness gorilla glass, i didn't even use a screen protector or case and it really lasted. They don't alway sell a good range here, and i wasn't looking for the capability of their flagships
I’ll be sticking with my Galaxy A72 for as long as possible, don’t want to lose my useful headphone jack (or 3x zoom camera lens).
It all boils down to more income for the company. Do you ever think those tech companies care for the environment? They are all in for the profit and we are all paying more for something less they offer.
Your videos get to the heart of what I look for...answers to questions related to these electronics, thanks for doing what you do !
Apple Explained is a hopeless Apple fanboy he will give excuses for their anti-consumer decisions for free.
Used to be a Samsung fan back in the days, the days when Samsung were doing the opposite of what Apple is doing and going as far as making a series poking fun of Apple: the iPhone notch family, lack of expendable storage... .
Nowadays they copied everything Apple does from removing the headphone jack to the multiples high-end devices type (Samsung: e, normal, plus, ultra, Apple: Mini, normal, Pro, Pro Max) and even removing the expendable storage on high end devices; the extra money is too important for these companies than Fan Service nowadays.
Samsung has become the Apple of the Android world
*Expandable storage, from the word "expand"(to enlarge)
Here's to hoping nobody tells you to tear down this video, considering how scummy big corporations can be.
Honestly at this point no matter what phone you get it almost always feels like you're going to compromise on something. Surprisingly though I didn't get to feel that when I went with a Sony Xperia. Glad I did, this phone is an example of how a true flagship device should look like.
agree. I've bought a new phone recently, and yeah, it has no headphone jack and such. And i'm still keeping my old, trusty Huawei P30 around, sure it doesn't have a microSD slot, but 128GB for the phone i'd use to listening to music, no hassle. And yeah, what a better way to listen to music = with a WIRED headset nonetheless
Honestly if sony had dex i will switch right away. It's the only thing keeping me on samsung.
@@liesandy291 I'm sure you can find some third-party or open-source alternative if you search for it
I wouldn't mind wireless headphones so much if there was a set standard everyone followed, Bluetooth is fragmented into multiple standards that keep changing and none of them work as well as a wired headphone, and likely never will.
What?
Modern Bluetooth hardly skips these days.
I can’t even remember the last time a Bluetooth headset has skipped.
Planned obsolescence is a blight. Remember when HP printers were so tough you could practically hit them with a car? HP, in their infinite wisdom, decided that it wasn't as important to have happy customers as it was to produce billions of tons of cheap plastic........ waste. I'm sure it's the same with headphones.
Hey Hugh, I completely agree on the charger topic here. I switched from a OnePlus 5T to a Google Pixel 6 last year. The Pixel obviously came without a charger but the cable was USB-C on both sides. The OP5T still had a USB-A charger and wasn't even compatible with the Pixel 6 (OnePlus uses VOOC and Google uses USB-PD). Fortunately Apple also uses USB-PD and I can use my Google charger for both my company iPhone and my private Pixel. If we really want to make chargers more economically friendly we don't only need to make them mechanically compatible, but also electrically. Sure companies will claim that this throttles innovation, but in the end this will reduce the ecological footprint of chargers. For the headphones, I am not sure sure. I personally use over-ear headphones (Bose QC35 II to be precise) and they have replaceable cushions and also seem to be screwed together. I'd appreciate a repair check from you for this model though.
Their biggest con is getting people to buy a phone that you will never truly own. It may be in your pocket. You might have paid them handsomely for it. But it's still owned by its maker and the supplier of its operating system who change it, adjust it, alter your personal preferences, add unwanted and often undeletable apps etc
That's a crime but they did tell you somewhere in their 250 page microprinted T & Cs - so their conscience is clear at least...
PS. Imagine if housebuilders or auto companies had the right to pop in unannounced to change your seat, mirror and radio settings. Or to move your furniture around.
That's the arrogance of these companies.
This is what I want to call it: " Legally stealing money from users"
A good point that low mid range smartphones have these features but high end ones don't. It seems like an idiot with money trap, buying a high end smartphone. It's like those people who pay 50$ for a white t-shirt instead of just 5$ because it has a tiny emblem on it. Companies want idiots with money to buy their products.
And it makes sense since Apple is clearly dominating the US market, your average American has enough money to just toss for the latest iPhone, while in Asia and Europe people opt for cheaper phones.
Not saying iPhones aren't totally worth it but if you really love Apple buy used, what's the damn difference? It's all about wealth.
Wish the headphone jack was still around.
it is
@Monochromatik And their Pro-I
I'm from the Caribbean so natural disasters from hurricanes is fairly typical. With the removal of the headphone jack and FM radio chips, no one can listen to FM radio freely in times of emergency, like there's any damn signal when your powerlines are all over the road and in your yards, people so privileged nowadays they don't even notice the lack of foresight and bullcrap. But you know how it is with privileged customers and Corporate greed, that's a third world problem.....Ukraine? That's a you problem. It's honestly disgusting and despicable. I hope a lot more bigger RUclipsrs sing on these points and never stop singing it
I'd rather spend 10 bucks on throwaway headphones than 100 on throwaway earbuds
Hey Hugh, that was a very informative and entertaining video keep up the great work!
Apple: “We are doing it for the environment”… Ok then, let’s talk about their iwatches. Back in the day a quality watch could last you for 20 years but their shitty battery iwatch is so expensive and will end up on the trash and they still release a new one every September making people buy and buy the new ones every year.
Stop shitting. You can replace the battery of an Apple Watch, yes it's a bit more expensive from replacing a normal phone battery, but it doesn't mean Apple Watch is a bad quality product that will die in a year or so. So instead of just bullshitting, at least be fucking objective you idiot.
You forgot a few other companies
Note9 still the best phone, now we just need someone to include all the new cameras, new updates and new functions for that phone.
I mean it already has 2 extremely good cameras, a pen, NFC etc... but its missing out on updates and general new features but atleast it has a headphone jack.
simple answer: money
That's why I am holding onto my note 9 for as long as I can. I actually cracked the screen recently and I had it repaired. Expandable memory, headphone jack and led indicator light. Just a few of the features that the note 9 has that these newer phones don't. Did I mention that you actually get a charger and headphones with your phone? It amazes me that people are willing to pay more to get less.
Samsung is so cringe. They literally mocked Apple and then did the same thing themselves
This is such a powerful video! But the sad part is, we’re still gonna buy from these big, money hungry, companies. I hope they do stop with their greediness and really care for what they’re promoting for.
Capitalism moment
Imagine buying your first ever smartphone, and it doesn't even come with a charger
i aint buying a phone without a headphone jack, no matter what company
The number of people in society who instantly go for such an obvious gimmick as wireless earphones is one of the things which sometimes makes it hard to go on.
I'll never buy a phone without headphone jack, SD card slot and a charger included. What infuriates me most is how this greenwashing bullshit is marketed.
The ultimate is the security patch update. "Sorry your phone is no longer supported, please see our website for your replacement" The EU are tackling this by banning manufacturers from selling their devices unless they provide a minimum on seven years of software support. That will Improve the situation for all of us.
What I love about the PC industry is you have channels like Gamers Nexus and LTT who have the guts to criticize and openly sift through corporate bs from companies like GIGABYTE with their faulty PSU’s or NZXT with the H110 that would catch on fire. And these channels will point out the good that some companies do like when Fractal recalled their torrent case. In the phone market there is much less of that and I believe that is due to the fact that not everyone has a PC, so you get a very large group of people with PC’s who are connected, but overall a smaller market. Then with phones it’s a lot of people, but the same group of people who are knowledgeable about phones is extremely small compared to the overall market. Still have the same voice, just so much smaller. There are definitely other reasons but I think what needs to happen to Apple, Samsung and Google, is an investigation by the FTC, and that’s the last thing I want, but it’s what needs to happen.
The truth should be told more in mainstream. Most mainstream publishers are unaware of the truth or willing to lie about it to satisfy a sponsor.
This is why I'm sticking with my LG V20. It has a headphone socket, a slot for an SD card and I can just swap the battery. The first thing I did after getting the thing was putting in an expanded battery, and to this day even with heavy usage, I get around three days on a charge.
There are plenty of alternatives that provide everything for less money.
No matter what the PR says, it's all about higher profit margins and nothing more.
@4:36 Exactly, those people design the phones. Nothing stops them from making them slightly thicker.
For companies and governments, we are only customers or people that pay taxes and fees. Environment is only an excuse. This is the world that we have to deal with :(
I like how you tied snippets of your older videos to this video. Nice work!
Great video and I'd really love to get the CEOs of these companies, strap them in with their eyelids forced open like Alex in A Clockwork Orange and ask them to try and debunk everything you are saying here. They know it's all about the money and passing on the cost and environmental impact onto the customer while at the same time showing how they cut back on packaging and environmental impact.
great video...I am happy to see some people speak out about the theft of these greedy companies ...no one should buy a new phone without a charger included in the box
Honestly, shady practices should be outlawed. Unfortunately, corruption amongst politicians is a big issue. These big tech companies have a big impact not only on the environment, but also on political decisions.
Heck, I still use my Lightning EarPods, dongle, Lightning cable, and power adapter that came with my iPhone 7 I bought almost 5 years ago! I just upgraded to the SE 3!
These problems start with a handful of customers being too stupid to say no to the first couple companies that pull this type of shenanigan. Then it becomes an issue for _all_ of us when _every_ company starts doing it and we run out of other places to spend our money.
For the first time ever, last year I bought a phone and it did not coming with a charging brick. I was furious and would have returned it for a refund, but there was literally no one else that had a phone in this form factor who still offered a charging brick, so I had no option but to eat it.
A lot of people in the comments are saying "we need to stop these companies from removing ". How, though? It's gotten to the point that you can't just only buy phones with headphone jacks... because they mostly don't exist anymore!
Sony still makes high quality phones that have a 3.5mm jack at the top, a micro SD card slot and an IP68 rating. It is definitely possible for other companies to do that. Seems like companies are just trying to cut cost to increase profits.
If Sony made their phone with a 10x telephoto lens and had better night shooting capability, I'd dump my Samsung in an instant. I hate the fact that their flagships have removed features that Sony still keeps but dammit Samsung's cameras are still top tier.
Excellent video. I've gotten into plenty of arguments with people that insist that the constant removal of features in today's phones is anything other than pure corporate greed at the expense of their customers. It is amazing how people just believe the marketing BS that these companies spout, especially if it is coming from Apple.
It is important to remember, any public company has one responsibility, to make the most money possible for their shareholders. If they are changing something it is because they believe it will make them more revenue or profit which should in turn will increase the share price.
Honestly i loved the Nokia era where they made phones which were completely different than others like the next model looked nothing like the previous. It's like different people designed them. But now it's the same phone with slightly different or higher specs and every phone looks the same you can barely tell the difference between two models.