If they can’t put a headphone jack put an extra usb c or lightning of whatever I want so charge while playing games or using RUclips with headphones on
@@faujisimp7090 Yes to this. As much as I like the headphone jack, I would take a second USB port over a headphone jack 99%, unless they can just go ahead and do both.
Once my iPhone 6 (iPhone that has a headphone jack) was in my hands I was putting it in my Pocket and it slipped but I had headphones on and it almost game me a heart attack as it was the only smartphone in our house back then
Wendigo well no. That was that they believe that the dying headphone jack would be a waste of space. That being said, it was no doubt force-marketing for airpods
Nah man, it's because they can make the battery on a gigantic tablet a few cubic millimeters bigger! SO much extra battery life....... that you can use to power the thirsty bluetooth module to connect to your airpods!!!
I'd say greed over stupidity. They know that the people that are willing to buy a phone without a headphone jack are dumb enough to not think about buying more of their over-priced accessories in dongle form. Also, they get to push their own branded goods over anything else. It's predatory market practice under the guise of innovation. It's Apple's way.
3:14 That is just flat out incorrect. Wireless transmission of audio delivers objectively poorer sound quality and is more prone to interference than cables. And as for digital connectors, there is going to be a digital to analog conversion anyway, the only difference is that it happens inside the headphone rather than the phone. Not to mention that the best sounding headphones still use a jack for connection, so you're going to need a headphone jack if you want to maximize sound quality, even if a better connector could exist in theory.
Amen, brother! I'd like to add that analog interference is not even a problem at such short cable lengths. In the professional audio world balanced audio connectors are used. but in those cases cable lengths greater than 5m are common.
Yeah but the best sounding headphones you are talking about are studio headphones and thats different, you are not going to be going to the gym with studio hp worth thousands of $. Not to mention that those hp use different type of jack than your 15$ earpods so you wouldnt use them anyway. And unless you are really fanatic into music using great headphones, the best sound formats and have excelent hearing you will hardly notice any significant difference going from cable to wireless. I have over 100$ headphones, listening to cheap downloads or from youtube etc like most people do and I hardly hear any real difference when I use them wireless or with jack.
@@cent3786 we like options, i can use my $5 earbuds for the gym or i can use my $500 headphones on a 15hour flight... Fact of the matter is phones have de facto replaced dedicated music players, sure you can go out and buy a dap but who really wants be carrying around another device in their pocket? you talk about a different jack for balanced headphones, maybe we should be moving in that direction instead of deleting the jack altogether...we should be moving towards better sound quality instead of away from it, we should be getting better amps and dac's in our phones instead it's going the other way....and any idiot can look at what the audio market is doing and see there is a demand for this sort of thing, all of these portable amp and dacs wouldn't exist if phone manufactures were going about things the right way. you idiots are actually advocating for less advancement, deleting the jack is the lazy way out and what do we really gain? 1/2 mil of thickness? maybe 20mins of extra battery life? it really doesn't make any sense why the public is supporting removing the headphone jacks...
Well, Samsung has managed to put all possible features in the Note 9 (including a pen) without getting rid of the headphone jack, so waterproofing, bigger battery and new features are not an excuse
While I use bluetooth headphones on my phone most of the time, being able to just plug in wired headphones without thinking about battery and having better audio/mic is the reason I only buy phones with the 3.5mm hole
@@maazali1595 Yeah ... even Bluetooth speaker are not convinient at all..there battery always degrades in time...and quality of sound are also not reliable + We are dependent on connector now..wr have to seperately buy it from other shops
@@wildyato3737 as of now I have a phone which has a jack ( I bought it 3 years ago)...but I'm gonna buy a new phone in upcoming 3-4 months , hence I was researching just to get knowledge of the current best phones in mid price range.. guess what... no phone had a jack🙂
@@wildyato3737 it's not that I hate wireless...but it becomes a liability..like discharging when you're working/gaming/watching...then you've to charge it separately...not to mention the latency in cheap wireless earphones due to which u have to buy the expensive ones...hell even the expensive ones don't have the sound quality as good as the wired ones
@@kristinlangley5986 Bluetooth headphones and earphones are not that expensive now because apple have created more demands for it and unintentionally lowering the cost of production, and charging them isn't kind of a big deal considering their convenience
“They need the space.” No, untrue. Strange Parts added a headphone jack to a iPhone. It’s just a empty space where the headphone would be now. “Waterproof” many manufactures waterproof phones with a headphone jack. I use my headphone jack much more then I go swimming with my phone.
He broke like 10 screens while doing that and he put it right on the corner, that extra space was used to help the phone sustain accidental corner drops, if they had put the jack there the screen would shatter as soon as you dropped the phone and it hit the corner. The waterproof headphone jack is patented and costs royalties meaning it drives the price up to give us something that most of us don't use anyway... no thanks. The water resistance is for accidents, not for swimming with your phone... if the water gets in, the warranty doesn't cover you. Many people accidentally dropped their phone in the water, they are most abused pieces of technology on the planet, so water resistance makes much more sense than a crappy 3 pin connector from 60s that takes so much space.
@jackthegamer Nope even from 2 meters the iPhone dropped on a corner does not break, you get scratches and dings on corner, so it's all cosmetic and both the screen and back glass are still fine, this is because there is some room behind the frame which really helps to absorb the damage... adding a headphone jack which is pushing against the screen is the total opposite... there just wasn't room for it.
@@robertcrawshaw9978 Because he is trying to get that youtube ad revenue that pays for the iPad pro, there is no other reason to bend the ipad pro. I never understood this bending bullshit, I don't bend my iPad and it works fine... I appreciate it's light weight thin form factor that make it comfortable for holding over the thick ass devices that retards cannot bend. Why would I do that? I know you're mad because my phone cost much more than your lagdroid but I'm not going to destroy the worlds best smartphone.
Almost all of these points are meaningless once you factor in samsung... 1. Removed it for water resistance - S7 and up have all had water resistance, while keeping the headphone jack 2. Removed for space for more features - Samsung literally fit a pen in their phone, while keeping the massive amount of features they normally bring 3. Removed for a bigger battery - Samsung fits very large batteries in their phones, with a headphone jack, and with the note, *with a pen* I do believe if apple didn't remove it, someone else would have, but it was much too early. Bluetooth headphones arent there yet
Sorry friend, but Samsung have one of the worst real world battery lifes out there. Don't try pointing me towards synthetic tests saying otherwise, i've already seen them. I've also owned a samsung and had to get rid of it after 9 months because of it's attrocious battery life, not to mention how fast their batteries degrade too. The only way a Samsung device's battery could get better is if it exploded. Oh wait, they tried that feature already. Didn't go down too well. You do have a valid point with the first and second points though, although most people never even touch the S Pen. The main reason people buy a note is purely for the larger screen. There is another point to be made as far as space goes too. Have you seen the inside of a Samsung phone? They still use the same small pack style batteries that have been in use for over a decade. They are generally much smaller than what other manufacturers use today, which begs the question: With the fact samsung have atrocious battery life and degrade very quickly, are their batteries even the amount of Amps they say they are, or are they modding the battery's built in firmware to report a higher number than is true? That would certainly explain how when I had an S7, it always died within 5 hours of being unplugged. I have never had that bad of a battery life with ANY phone before, Androids included. Even when I had a Sony Xperia Z2, that lasted all day despite having a 2K display, without problems. And I'm not the only one either. Every friend of mine who has/had a samsung reports the same complaints. Even Linus himself had to release a follow up video to his S9 review where he initially praised the battery - because he realised after some time that the battery is in fact, absolutely terrible. And by some time, I mean a mere few months, never mind the expected minimum device lifespan of 1-2 years.
Manufacturer: Were making it more water resistent. Me: do u think i swim with my phone? Lol Manufacturer: were just struggling for space. Me: not that i feel like i need half the stuff they throw in the phone, but the note 9 managed it and it was the best phone of its year imo. Manufacturer: wireless is the future. Me: my wired headphones are really high quality and im yet to see any wireless pair that even gets close. Maybe in 20 years that might change. Also i dont have to charge my headphones like the wireless pairs. Which in itself makes it a better option.
and Samsung: Here's a phone with every little stupid thing you asked for. It's thinner than the last one, is still water resistant and the headphone jack is going nowhere! Thank god that there are companies still out there that actually listen to their customers. I REFUSE to buy a phone without basic features! The fact they might cram in 50 mAh more of battery (at best) is completely irrelevant to me when the phone consumes more power with fucking bluetooth on anyways! Not to mention you have to deal with the tiny battery of the wireless atrocity itself and on constant basis. Fuck that :)
Manufacturer: Water resistance is for accidents, so if water comes in contact with your phone it is not a big deal. Manufacturer: the headphone jack takes lots of space for a 3 pin connector, could be used so much better and not all devices are same, note9 is a phablet and it's large, not even is the same category Manufacturer: Bluetooth sound quality is already good enough and smartphones aren't audiophile devices. They are generally used outside with a lot of background noise. Make it two years especially since we will force everyone to use the new technology, which means a lot of testing and that will speed up it's development. Also your wired earbuds are already "charging" on your phones battery, this is why you have these annoying wires that tangle, break and catch into everything they can.
What about removing the battery from smartphones so they can be super thin and light and whenever you want to use them you can just plug an external battery in the USB port
what if we made phones that have screens that are also transparent solar panels... then have capacitors that can hold a charge of a few hours! Im a genius!
In 2021 June, I'm still using my LGV30 for headphones jack reason.. And this video came when I type "newest smartphone with headphones jack" to buy in 2021
@@kazamamayacecile5012 I know I'm late, but probably the best phones with a headphone jack to buy are currently the Sony 5 and Sony 1 series. The only other options I can think of are the Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro, the Samsung A52s and the Samsung S20 FE 5G. The rest of phones either don't have a headphone jack or have a weak processor.
@@cruzdesangre2850 yeah but cmon. think about budget phones. there are so many on the market now, for example last gen samsungs or whatever else. they go for sub 300 USD and still have headphone jacks. apple can seriously screw off with their bullshit. hell, look at motorolla with nearly every single one of their phones, flagship or not, STILL HAVING HEADPHONE JACKS! plus adapters and bluetooth drain your battery life way more than a integrated headphone jack. or well, atleast at the same range of dac/amp. once you look at higher end dac/amps be it internal or through a adapter battery drain isn't a question anymore, its just bound to happen. sadly. but hey, atleast I can still charge my phone while listening to music on *wired* headphones.
@SnowySkies it's still the same size as iPhone 10s max and has 1000mah more battery an s pen whick is water sealed from inside a headphone jack and no notch.
LG beat them to it.... The new LG v60 slick slim and has a head phone jack and even FM radio! and dual screen Addon! Even have a 32 bit quad DAC! and is water/dust resistance
i prefer the headphone jack, because i don't need to worry about another device to be charged and another battery that stops working after a year of use. Also i prefer phones that have replaceable batteries over waterproof ones. Aaand really like to have IR on top of the phone to turn my tv on and off.
What exactly are people doing the Waterproofing Is THAT much of a necessity hell i often have snow in my pocket with my phone( middle coat pockets are great snow catchers when you got your hands in them). I had 2 phones max. The First one lasted me 4 years before one fateful day when it fell 1 foot and cracked despite it surviving for so long the edges of the phone is chipped, scratched and dented to hell and back. But the 1 foot drop ended it. Hell my screen was still flawless. No scratches at all. My current phone is fine despite the same issue. I drop it occasionally so the sides are all scuffed up and chipped(i just never find the need to buy a case). but the screen again is still flawless(i just take that much care for it) the only problem with it is the Headphone jack has worn out.
Why would you take your phone near water anyways? If you are at the beach you should enjoy it, if you are at the pool you should enjoy it. I'd take more features that are better than some earphones that will probably fall out and get lost. Idk what apple was thinking.
Mate 10 from Huawei has nice features but I do not know about the screen Hz ... I would love the LG g2 3 rear buttons or the upgraded ones on the v10 ... high-quality camera and no notch and mah that is higher than 5000
@@eqeqeqe9547 you have some people say they live in (insert coastal city here) and that apparently is reason enough for waterproofing because they like to take picutres or videos near water. I'm like really your not jesus standing IN the water so unless you got butter fingers or are hanging far from where you should that's not a problem. But then you also got these people with pants SO tight that the phone can barely even fit In there pants and then on top of that carry it in the backpocket with like more then half the phone sticking out. Geez i wonder why you go through phones like candy. Just a little attentiveness and forward thinking and your phone can survive Years. Bar any internal problems.
@EM srry but seems like you misunderstood my reply. OP said that they will remove the charging port next. My intended joke was, wireless charging will become common if they do something like that. Ofcourse I'm against it. I'm ALL IN for having a charging port (if they ever remove it 😂) AND having a headphone jack 🙌
No charging port makes wireless charging but it sucks, you cant charge while using it on bed, air charge?(i saw xiaomi phone with the feature, a bit skeptikal on how it works) Goodluck with all the static accumulation you will feel a lot of sting and possibly fry your phone circuits
@@ajg8600 Not really more waterproofed than Apple's iPhone. The XS and XS Max have IP68 certification for 2 meters submerged for 30 minutes, while Samsung's S10 and Note 9 have for 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Considering the way Apple is going (leaks saying that they're working on underwater functional screens, and others...), I wouldn't be surprised if they release a full waterproofed phone in the future (phones today aren't actually waterproofed, they're just water resistant).
The moment you try to sell me a phone without the jack, we're done talking. Bad enough I can't even swap batteries anymore and may have to deal with the damn notch, you're not forcing me to buy $60 earbuds that are stiff, uncomfortable, and get lost easily too.
I quite frankly don't understand what's the big deal about the notch. Is that couple millimetres more space really that important? For the looks I don't really understand either, phone with and without notch look practically identical.
@@fruit5003 The notch is annoying as it cuts into whatever you're trying to play, watch, do, etc as most programs that are full-screen don't account for it since the screen wraps around it. Basically, you're missing a chunk of your image for the sake of thinner bezels. Not remotely worth it. Just glad my G6 doesn't have it.
@@swolf712 Or, if you buy a phone that actually did it well, it will black out the sides of the notch and act like a "normal" phone with fullscreen apps. Like the OnePlus 6/6T do.
@@swolf712 I hate phones with bezels. When I looked at smartphones, I chose one that wasn't too Locked down in cost, like apple products are known for. B, I chose something that wasn't smooth around the edges. I want a squarish edge. And three, A headphone jack since I didn't want to have ot buy new ones. But ye, I do not mind the idea of removing it, but at least provide an alternative. USB-C? Sure... If you add an extra jack or provide the Dongle with the product. And waterproofing claim just sounds silly. Headphone jacks aren't harder to water proof than USB-C connector. Merely size difference, is all.
"We don't have space!" Bruh. My Xiaomi phone has the 3.5mm jack, a mechanized front facing camera and still manages to fit in a 4000mAh battery. It's not like that made sacrifices either. The CPU and "graphics accelerator" were the fastest on the market when I bought it. It doesn't even get hot.(though I usually play less intensive games, if I remember playing PUBG also didn't heat it up though) The battery holds up nice too. Lasts long and charges fast. All that for a fraction of an iPhone with the downside being I wouldn't be surprised if Xiaomi spied on people though Apple is probably doing the same... Not even gonna mention Google. That argument is just bull.
Same here my man same here, using Apple earbuds No Doubt on an HTC M9 that I bought about six months ago merely because it had a headphone jack and newer phones are not competing well enough for the price points
Same. I charge my phone and use the headphone to speak to my friends and family all the time. So if I have to use a dongles I can't charge my phone. Also with dongles there are digital and analog dongles and some phones only use digital and other use analog dongles. So if you buy the wrong dongles it won't work with it. Using bluetooth headsets means I have to charge it and if I forget then well I can't use it. Also when traveling all planes ban the use of bluetooth headphones when it is in the air and the you actually need to have a regular headphone jack to connect to their 3.5mm jack to listen to audio. I only buy phones with headphone jack and there are tons of phones still keep the headphone on.
It won't always be important. The markets will find replacement options for all your problems. However, until that happens, I'm sticking with phones that have a headphone jack.
@@michaelyun2407 Not true for all aircraft. Most flights I've been on advise you to use Airplane Mode to turn off mobile signal but you can still turn on Bluetooth and Wifi. They might discourage it during takeoff and landing though. I used to think charging without music was a problem but I can move around freely with a Bluetooth headphone while the phone charges. It's more cumbersome to have two wires leashed to your phone while you're charging and listening to music at the same time.
@Michael Yun - that's Apple's next big plan. They will start selling Apple Juicevault. It is an innovative, creative design of a totally new product. It will allow you to connect your iPhone, iEarpodswhatevs and iDongles to it in a unique and intuitive manner. The function of the device is to allow your Apple products to interact seamlessly and juice their batteries at the same time. Apple Juicevault. Don't delay, buy today :-D
@@SuperXicor , with wireless charging that's not a problem, you also can get an adapter with two ports. But it's still an extra expense, but you can solve it if there is no dedicated head phone jack.
@@hannaha4305 Ever tried wireless charging while doing anything with the device? Even the cord of a wired headphone would pull it from the sweetspot of the charging coil.
I wish there was another way though. The power button has gone dodgy in my phone so everytime the wifi cuts out I have to take off the cover and press the little but of solder with a thin metal object at the right angle to restart it. Theres no other way to get to the restart option.
lets be honest. the ONLY reason companies are getting rid of this is so that YOU have to buy SPECIFIC headphones/earbuds to even use the feature. which is a great way (for them) to make considerably more money while screwing us up.
This is EXACTLY the real reason. They cant block cheap chinese headphones because the headphone jack has no logic. Enter the ''digital' connector. In a few years you'll only be able to connect Apple approved headphones. After that only with the right DRM protection etc. Yay DRM!
@@IAm-zo1bo wrong Wired headphones are far better and way more affordable for people that love music My headphones are wired and I can use them for hours continuously without the battery on my phone going flat Bluetooth is a terrible battery hog
And that's fellas how Apple makes money... :) It's not ancient technology like many dumbass here says. It's just extra profit for Apple and stupid trend.
3.5mm jack removed for water resistance? Galaxy note 8/9 have it, micro SD slot and a slot for a pen and are just as "waterproof" as any iphone or possibly more so. NEXT.
The fact that it's not in their tablets shows that the "space saving" argument is BS. Maybe waterproofing is an argument, but I'm sure 90% of people would rather have a phone with some sort of cover to waterproof the headphone jack than no headphone jack at all. And the Samsung Galaxy S5, one of the first phones to have waterproofing, needed a cover for the charging port, and not the headphone jack, showing that it was easier to waterproof the headphone jack than the charging port. I'm gonna stick with my theory that they're removed to push the company's wireless headphones which coincidentally happen to release when a company gets rid of a headphone jack.
You got that right. Waterproofing is as weak of an argument as space saving, these are just excuses to push out more expensive solutions. It is no coincidence but a planned out strategy to get people to spend more money.
Samsung Galaxy S9+ 1. Waterproofing better than the iPhone X 2. Has a headphone jack 3. Has a Micro SD card slot 4. No stupid notch 5. Dual sim 6. Iris scanner (better than face ID) 7. Way cheaper!!
I love Samsung for not doing all that bullshit to their devices.. I mean there's still some rumors that they're gonna remove the headphone jack on the S10 series, but c'mon, it's just a rumor
Dont forget other phone manufacturers following apples stupid lead. Its clear a lot of people still want the jack, I dont understand why more companies wouldnt capitalize on that and cash in.
Dongles have worse audio quality then bluetooth, companies are trying to dumb down the masses to what good audio is so they can sell expensive bluetooth headphones. and for the Sheep of these brands its working.
Venom415 the stupid thing is that the dongle has much better audio quality than Bluetooth but some companies think their customers are stupid. At least it wont disappear on PCs, there isnt a reason of space. We need more place on the IO of the Motherboard isnt a reason, usually you don’t put "important“ things there(USB and other dongles are important but not as CPU socket).
Wireless connections do not have the higher quality audio fidelity of a wired solution. its just crazy. I will never buy a phone that dose not have a headphone jack. my choice to vote with my pocket.
just get a Samsung and get a more honest customer service and repair. it makes for a better experience and has the bonus of being lighter on the pocket.
Wireless is high quality audio fidelity. Bluetooth sends data around the 2.4GHz, same as WiFi. electronics.howstuffworks.com/bluetooth4.htm Change my mind.
Sorry, I like the privacy of listening to my own audio with my preferred headphones without having to buy overpriced garbage or yet another overpriced dongle.
@@person10 indeed you can, but key here is "preferred headphones," which may be a studio-quality set of headphones or even a stereo system with an auxiliary in port
@@nopushbutton Yeah, that's the other thing. I have these Klipsch 2.1 speakers with a 200-watt built-in amp that I don't use on my PC anymore. (Got smaller Logitechs, because limited desk space since I moved.) They're old, but they still sound amazing. So I set them up in a den, where I get together with family and friends. My phone makes a perfect music source, although I sometimes press my laptop into service for this. It's nice to be able to hook up the phone to all sorts of audio-reproduction equipment, not just earbuds.
@@nopushbutton That's a big thing most people don't mention when regarding missing the analog jack. You get REAL quality and compatibility with larger stereo/sorround sound sets. Does everyone use that? Of course not. But again, it's just one more reason why there is no excuse for removing the jack. It has so much freaking compatibility.
1. Wireless headphones are expensive and take a bit to connect compared to just plug and play of the headphone jack. 2. Bluetooth headphones require to be charged and if they do not use the same connector as your other devices then that is another new charger you have to carry around. 3. Latency in mobile gaming which (for better or worse) is a big deal is a major issue. Also mid game disconnections, re-connections require exiting the game most of the time. 4. Dongles (included ones) do not allow charge and use at the same time, another big need for mobile phone gaming. 5. Wireless earphones create issues with WiFi sometimes when they are running over the same frequency. 6. Usb-C earphones are another cluster since one earphone might not work with another phone that also has the same USB-C standard. Cross compatibility sucks balls. There is no point of removing something essential such as the headphone jack when you provide no alternative that is as good as or in most cases better than the current solution. It is a dumb thing and will remain a dumb thing until there is a genuine replacement. That said I will have to live with it because Apple did it, and monkey see, monkey do. Edit : I had two 3s, also I don't think the video is entirely bad. Some people prefer wireless even with all these downsides because it's cleaner aesthetically. These are just my thoughts on why this happened too early in the evolution of tech.
This is a message to the manufacturesa tgat ditched the headphone jack"Why ditch the headphone jack and still and make and provide a dongle if you think the headphone jack is unnecessary?"
The cost of wireless headphones is going down quite fast. You can get cheap ones for 20-30$. Charging is annoying especially if your headphones still use microUSB but it's not a big deal for me. I agree about latency in mobile gaming, but that is probably more a problem with the OS or the specific device. My Windows 10 laptop has AptX on Bluetooth 5.0 and I get almost no lag in gaming compared to my Note 9 which has AptX and Bluetooth 5.0.
@@FrankyboyLegend Cheap Bluetooth earphones are generally not BT 5.0, nor Aptx certified. Whereas I can buy a $10 earphone and have non of these issues using the jack. Also cheaper ones have various issues with disconnections and whatnot. I've had multiple cheaper variants of BT earphones disconnect when my phone is in my pocket or just covered up by something big such as a pillow.
TLDR version; headphone cord got caught on chair, human galaxy a10 torpedo While some people say “the headphone jack protects it from falls” the headphone jack can pop out. As a matter of fact I had a headphone jack phone that broke because of it; I was walking over to the fridge to get some food and my headphone jack got caught on a chair and I fell face first and my phone met a horrible fate
I love the headphone jack. I have like 3 pairs of headphones and they would be useless without the headphone jack. I think audio quality of the headphone jack is better.
@@harshnemesis S10 and S10 Plus have 3 cameras, and still has a Jack. S10 5G, 4 cameras and still has good ole Jack. The whole no space lie is a gimmick and funny how people actually fall for it. Galaxy has flagship specs and features plus the Jack.
A phone being thin and light is nice, but much lower on my list of priorities than things like resistance to bending, battery life, and what I consider to be basic features, like a headphone jack. Also, past a certain point I don't really notice how thick it is in my daily usage, I would be happy use something the size of the original iphone if it was more capable.
A phone should not disappear in you pocket. While nobody wants a huge brick, fact is, most phones were already "thin enough" and "light enough" 5-10 years ago. Making them thinner and lighter is actually making them worse.
And I mean odds are if they are making phones this thin that operate well, why not make them the same size they have been and not so thin, just space for extra features that define the phone
funny i had this argument with a friend like 6 years back. i was thinking the same shit back then, i don't need a fucking paper thin phone that costs almost 2 grand. i want a durable phone that has all the features i use.
The Part with "they need more space for other features" is bullshit. I mean, the youtuber Strange Parts even build his own Headphone Jack into his Iphone. So there is clearly enough space. It is just a money making machine for all these dongel and bluetooth stuff.
To be fair he did remove one thing. Not sure what feature it was for, i think it was more precise movement detecting or something to do with movements. But he did it to an allready assembled phone. If it was designed with it in mind from the beginning, then maybe they could have gotten in it with that other chip he took out.
@@Junta57 are you actually that ignorant and blind? We want to be able to actually CHARGE our devices while listening to music without some stupid dongle we have to carry around
The amount of flagships today that don't have the jack are so many that simply having it in one flagship device can quite literally make it stand out from the competition now.
I wonder what would happen if a startup came along and released a phone that was relatively thick (at least by today's standards), that incorporated all features consumers looked for. A headphone jack, the biggest battery that's available, dual cameras, wireless charging, expandable memory, no notch display that's 120hz, and most importantly, stock android (no dumb skin or bloatware). I mean call me crazy, but I'd happily buy a thicker phone if it meant I got more functionality out of it. Edit : Of course extensive R&D would be necessary to create a good user experience. Weight and heat are definitely concerns, those are the issues that would need to be addressed, new technology and innovations are always in development so with lighter components and better heat transfer solutions, it could be possible. In all honesty I thought the newer Samsung phones were close to perfect, but the poor android skin and the fact that they can't help but push Bixby down people's throat was a major turn off. In terms of public perception and marketing, developing a good brand image is hard and takes time, however not impossible. Mother's not buying phones for their weight is a real thing, but that's where the free market comes in. This kind of phone would not be for everyone, and that's fine.
@@cloroxbleach2520 Yes, but Apple was rumored to have the 6s be waterproof, right around when Samsung released the S7. Also, the S4 active was waterproof and was released right after the Xperia z.
Sorry dude. This whole thing is about the $$$ None of those other reasons you gave made any sense. Considering Apple's competitors managed to do all that and THEN some without removing it. Apple just wants your money. Look up their earnings from last year. It's disgusting how much they make off of the dongle for 3.5mm headphones alone.
@@Simboiss no, but if they actively make our lives worse and screw us over with overpriced mediocre products, setting anti consumer business trends, it makes sense to dislike them.
@Vladimir Putin What is one of the best leaders in the world and best friend of kim god ruler of true korea one of the best nations in the world. Far better then the US or false korea
It's all about the money. Also, the newer MacBooks don't have a HDMI port. They do have a DisplayPort. You need to buy an expensive adaptor, from Apple of course, if you want to display a MacBook on your TV.
@@9SMTM6 It's not about a reasonable price. It's about cross compatibility. I use my headphones on different computers, on my phone, on my tablet, on other people's computers and workstation. Not to mention that I have enthusiast-level headphones that will last me a decade, easily. I'm not gonna buy new ones because of corporate grid. What I'll do is buy a crappier phone, and I have.
@@9SMTM6 can't agree. The Type C connector is inherently more complex by design, it just can never be cheaper to produce and to implement on production machinery, let alone hobbysts. So you've added a cost factor there regardless of a DAC even being there, I'm still assuming analog out will be present (adding a DAC will be yet another cost again, which can never mach it's absence in the replaceable device's end). In case it has a DAC, add to that list power wasted on an extra power conversion stage, that would not be necessary if the DAC was inside the device that already needed those power rails inside. Not to mention that while USB Type C can be reversed, the round connector can, well, rotate even while plugged to infinite steps. Quality wise we could already use better external DACs (and thus USB headphones/amps) long before, so that's not an added advantage either. Not to mention that the DAC would have to be better than what the sending device has to begin with, not the case with the vast majority of USB headsets out there, that barely match a PC's on-board sound.
2014: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot 2015: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot, removable batteries 2016: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot, removable batteries, a headphone jack 2017: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot, removable batteries, a headphone jack and with a notch 2018: FOUR cameras? Are you kidding me?! 2019: *sigh* hope my several years old phone doesn't break or I'm in deep shit
@@dominic.h.3363 Well, it's likely never coming back, like, at this point unless if you want one of those super-budget phones, there is little to no-point waiting. If you want a good lower-price phone, One Plus makes great phones. And I say the lack of Memory Card Slot is offset by most phones having 64 GB at the minimum, or 128 in some cases.
@@Alovon Liking your own comment I see. :P 64 GB is ridiculously small because two thirds of it is already taken by the OS. I fill the remaining storage in a few hours, then I need to off-load it to somewhere else. No thank you. Besides, memory cards are orders of magnitudes cheaper than the same phone with better internal storage one step up. I could buy a terabyte of microSD cards from the price difference. I will not budge. My next phone will either have everything my LG G4 has just more of it, or I won't buy one, it's that simple.
the first 2 factors I look at when considering whether to buy a phone or not nowadays: 1) a headphone jack 2) no notches these are things that weren't even in question a few years ago and now it immediately cuts half of the phones out there out of the picture. It's always disappointing when you see a video talking about a phone and the phone looks really, really good and has a lot of cool features just for you to find out that there's a big ugly notch and there's no headphone jack. Huge turn off. The phone would have to offer something truly spectacular, like transforming into a flying car that can bring me anywhere in the world without ever needing to recharge, in order for me to even consider overlooking those 2 issues.
All the BS reasons given out by companies are simply to eek out some more money from you.. S8/S9/Note all have headphone jacks and are both thin and water resistant..
rahul nargundkar Don’t worry, Samsung is removing too. They only keep at right now because they know it’s Samsung fanboys that go LOOK IT HAS A HEADPHONE JACK and that makes people buy it. None of these tech companies are on your side. They all want one thing, money.
Apple: "Oh yeah we removed the headphone jack because it occupied space" * *Removes headphone jack on tablet as well even though it's got like 10x the size of a phone* * Also, who tf buys phones cuz they're thin? i can't be the only one that hates that trend right? Make the thing better not smaller. It already fits perfectly in my pocket
I love my Moto e4+ I just got. It's kinda large compared to other phones, cuz of the huge battery. Hate tiny phones. Can't type on it or hold it comfortably.
I agree. I work as a tailor, work with my hands, have done for over forty years, and I fumble with the thin phone to try to hold it just right so I don't accidentally press some button or other. Ergonomics dictates that a certain amount of thickness makes for much more convenient handling.
Honestly thin phones are uncomfortable to me, they're getting so thin it feels like holding a dull razor blade between your hands. A nice mildly thick phone is a lot more comfortable to use.
not to mention the iphone XR is thicc af. you'd think that they'd integrate aptx and aptx hd bluetooth codecs so their bluetooth quality is better. but nope, they just made the speakers on the phone better, because apparently people would rather hold their phone to their face to hear music than use headphones
What thin phone? Samsung put a glass back on our Galaxy S9+. It needs to be protected so we have a case on the phone. It's no longer thin. Thin isn't important to me. Weight is.
So I have to buy a new set of earphones/headphones because Apple wanted a slightly thinner phone? My computer has 1/8" jacks. My integrated amplifier for my turntable has a 1/4" jack. All of my musical equipment have 1/8", 1/4" jack (or XLR) outputs. My phone and my mp3 player also both have 1/8" jack outputs. The beauty of the jack is that it is so universal and it is a tried and tested connection that has been perfectly fine for audiophiles and music producers for decades. I simply wouldn't buy a phone that doesn't have a jack. Judging by the comments, this is not an uncommon view.
Robbie Grant They just want money. There’s not really any defense. All of these companies including oneplus, google ext. just copy apple to get more money.
@@hryank33 I actually dobt that. Yeah I'm sure like half a decade from now, maybe, but, wired headphones are just more convient and arguably cheaper, plus you don't have to charge it. I think a hybrid would actually be better though. Think about a pair of ear buds with a separate headphone dongle that can switch devices near instantly.
S.J 'Squid' Blazkowicz I actually have a hybrid set of headphones, they have a two way wire that can be unplugged from the headphones to enable bluetooth mode, which esentially means I can go with either bluetooth or headphone jack connection depending on what I feel like...
A true no brainer smartphone would be one you didn't have to care about wires, about where to plug what. The true concept Apple is always aspiring to get to is a 0 Port Phone. Just take off all of your hate and think about a future in which charging, listening to music and transferring your photos would not require a single cable! Ultimately they are striving for this, although they will gain a lot of money from their dongles they will gain even more when their smartphone is the easiest to use ever.
1:19 Don't most if not all desktop computers have headphone jacks (or several ways to connect audio), Bluetooth/WiFi is reserved for top end models? If there was any truth to their "water proof excuse", why do we still have charging ports, speaker grills, microphones, and side buttons?
*thing works and millions are happy* *No, we need to increase the price and cut millions of functional headphones/peripherals out of the tech loop so people will buy our branded, overpriced headphones*
And apple owns beats. People are that much of idiot that if beats sell a headphone sounding distorted like hell, they'd still buy it at $999 calling it an 'innovation'. Oh wait... Their monitor stand costs $999.
Hmm, lets see. 1. They need the space. It was demonstrated that a headphone jack could be added to an iPhone 7,8, 10 by using a method that takes up MORE space than the port does if soldered to the board. Not a valid excuse. 2. they need waterproofing. The headphone jack port is a cylindrical tube, with metal contacts (that can flex). This can (and has, a la the Galaxy S5 Sport in 2014, and current models have similar space for components) be waterproofed EASILY. This isn't a valid excuse. 3. Analog quality is worse than digital Actually no. analog just takes more bandwidth. That's it. It's a circuit issue. We have SOLVED this for a LONG time with a DAC built inside phones, that can easily handle CD quality audio (and with premium devices, FLAK quality output). Interference isn't really an issue either. The signal is quite shielded if you have any decent headphones. But then again, that's not Apple's fault, that's your shitty headphones. This isn't a valid excuse. 4. They wanted lighting royalties. Oh, you bet. I've heard that royalties can EASILY be $5-$15 of EVERY lightning device sold. Every one. That's ABSURD. Obviously 3rd parties pass this cost onto you, so it's really just your money. 5. AirPods were their solution. I'm still a bit torn, because they didn't make any BEATS branded headphones that had a lightning connector, so I'm unsure they would prefer their AirPods over beats they recently bought a few years ago. But the idea is there, and I'm sure sales DID increase, so I believe this was definitely discussed before doing the decision to remove it. So the main consensus is: It wasn't due to waterproofing, space, or audio quality. It was likely due to penny pinching, forcing lightning royalties (especially adapters for existing tech as that's cheaper for users), increasing AirPod sales, and making people more comfortable with wireless audio, such that HomePod and Siri could benefit. It really was anti-consumer.
*All* headphones are analogue. Even Bluetooth ones. The difference is where you put the DAC. And you're less likely to get a quality DAC inside a pair of bluetooth headphones.
for point 5, they likely realized beats were just garbage sold for their name only, something they could easily do themselves with a smaller item that has lower material costs
@@illdeletethismusic Oh they MOST certainly bought it for name and recognition and NOT for the tech. They wanted to tie the apple brand to beats to seem "hip."
One reason is probably because they are expensive to repair the headphone jack, and it is something that is easily damaged . But that should make iphones cheaper, as they then don't have to worry about warranty repairs of headphone jacks.
It's amazing how every single change being made to smartphones in recent years is the exact opposite of what I actually want. I want thicker phones that are sturdier rather than a thin phone that breaks if you even look at it wrong, I want generous bezels so I can actually hold the phone while viewing it, rather than having to gingerly grasp the edge, I want physical buttons that I can press without having to look rather than digital buttons that don't work if the phone freezes or glitches out, and last but not least, I want a fucking headphone jack. The only change in recent years I like is efforts to improve battery life, although often it is undermined by also adding more demanding software that completely negates the battery improvements.
"I want physical buttons that I can press without having to look rather than digital buttons that don't work if the phone freezes or glitches out" To be fair in the situation where your phone freezes or glitches out even if you did have physical buttons the program that's supposed to be registering those button presses.... is frozen or glitched out... so as a result it doesn't matter whether your input is coming from a digital or physical button. It won't do anything either way. The buttons that do work even in those cases are handled by the OS and again, it doesn't matter if they're digital or physical. If the OS can still operate fine, the buttons will work. If it can't then you're shit out of luck either way and will have to boot the phone.
This is honestly just not a good argument. The headphone jack is still incredibly useful for many, very common applications, where Bluetooth is either clunky to set up or not available. The space it takes up in the phone is negligible. They can argue "we want to make the most out of our phones" as much as they want but there are many, many other ways of doing that that DON'T require removing possibly one of the most basic and needed features in a MEDIA PLAYING DEVICE.
There's no such thing as headphones that connect digitally because you still need a digital to analog converter to be able to listen to them. All Apple has done is make you buy the digital to analog converter separately instead of building one into the phone that you pay over a thousand dollars for. This isn't a matter of practicality or enhancing the user experience, it's just intense corporate greed.
I don’t think so Linus... I have not accepted this trend at all. This is the main reason why I haven’t upgraded my iPhone. I absolutely love the convenience of the headphone jack and probably won’t settle without it
Because it's redundant. 3.5 mm jack has only one function, to output audio signal, which a USB-C port or whatever Apple uses can already do ~100000 times more efficiently. The 3.5 mm jack is just an extra hole, extra components and waste of space in a device that's supposed to be compact and efficient.
@@Mornys one component extra (plus wires) isnt an issue when phones are $1000 plus. also the space is wasted? the only real dimension that gets affected is the thickness of the device, and any device thinner than a 3.5mm jack is too small IMO
I do not like samsung's UI :/ especially that android Hol theme reskin that they stick with on the their cheap phones....ugly blue and yellow and sharp corners all over the place
Yea i can feel you it's so freaking annoyingly frustrating at this point, respect to sony for keeping headphone jack on their flagships while making absolutely the best wireless earbuds in the market, so much respect for them.
easy solution: make your own battery banks, get rechargable high-capacity batteries for it (you can use AA'S but i'd suggest getting 18650's since they hold so much more battery life) and then get a LG/Sony phone or even a motorola.
Nope, a lot of people use laptops for music production so they need minimal delay time and good audio, that being said I doubt they will remove the jack from laptops, not only that but laptops don’t need to be water resistant.
Let's add a function to unlock your phone with facial recognition, so let's add a new chip to do this job instead of the headphone jack and replace the audio with the already present bluetooth. - Why did you remove my headphone jack? - Because you're too dumb to remember a password.
Soryr, but no. There's no legitimate reason. Every smartphone manufacturer before this nonsense somehow found it in themselves to put a headphone jack in there. "Oh but it's easier to make waterproof". So what? Don't drop your phone in the toilet, or, better yet, just waterproof the damn headphone jack like everybody else. It's bad enough that we can't get a phone with decent bezels or a removable battery anymore, but this is getting just too stupid. What, do we have to buy "vintage" smartphones now if we want basic functionality?
@@isodoubIet oh yeah New Coke. Remember when they trashed the old coke recipe for no good reason and people complained? Yeah basically what's going on here.
@@FrankyboyLegend Frank Lin wow you drank the Kool aid huh? "Old" doesn't mean bad and the only reason it's "dying" is because Apple said so and the fanboys have followed suit and the companies see them gobble this crap up so they are now capitalizing on these people's ignorance and unwillingness to do anything about it. Headphone jacks are on literally any piece of tech that outputs audio and isn't a Bluetooth only device. You'll find them on radios, cars, desktop computers, laptops, studio audio equipment, tablets and up until recently phones, I'm pretty certain you will not see the headphone jack disappear from a computer because it's "old". It's fine if you don't use any headphone jack at all but don't act like your experience is everyone else's. In the end this is detrimental to consumers like you and me, you're getting less features and low quality replacements for a higher cost.
@@HatsOnJohn I don't necessarily agree with them, but that is the business model manufacturers have to push for new technology. The problem was with finding a unified standard for USB type C which phone manufacturers failed to do so. Call them shills or whatever but I remember when MKBHD, Linus and others were less happy about it, now there's almost no complaining when a new phone has no headphone jack. Fanboys will remain fanboys, some longtime users were angry when HTC, Sony and more recently OnePlus removed the jack, but eventually they accepted it. I bought the Note 9 expecting to still use the headphone jack but every day I use it less and less. It's good for some serious audiophile music listening, but for casual music streaming, AAC, AptX and LDAC are more than good enough. The latency was awful for games, but that was due to badly optimized software and has been improved greatly with the Android Pie update. Unless you really care about that SLIGHT difference in competitive gaming, it isn't the end of the world. Having to charge is an inconvenience at first but many Bluetooth headphones have either batteries or charging cases that allow them to last longer than a day. I'm more annoyed by the fact that many manufacturers are still using microUSB on their Bluetooth headphones for charging.
Headphone jacks dont harm water resistance anyway. Its a ridiculously simple connector, which makes it incredibly easy to waterproof. Second part is definitely true. I'd much rather have 5000mah and a couple more mm than a couple less mm and only have 2700mah. But my phone has 5000mah and a headphone jack and is unofficially waterproof down to a meter. Also cost about 900€ less than your average current gen iphone
But they won't. They will all que up a week before so they can be cool and say they have the new iPhone with their Bluetooth headphones. So fucking anoing. Rant over.
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Micro USB: Plugs one way
Lightning and Type C: Plugs both ways
AUX: *3 6 0 °*
Don't forget the OG. DC power cord
Nokia charger
@@volkan7844 omg yes imagine if that was on phones now a days
Samsung a51: am I a joke to you
NOICE
"We don't have space for a headphone jack. let's put 5 cameras on it!"
@Gappy Walking he did it on iPhone 7 and one of the iPhone 7’s screen started malfunctioning
So true. I don't need 5 cameras. Just one good sensor on the front and the back is enough for me. Please stop selling me junk.
*Galaxy fold cries in the distance*
If they can’t put a headphone jack put an extra usb c or lightning of whatever I want so charge while playing games or using RUclips with headphones on
@@faujisimp7090 Yes to this. As much as I like the headphone jack, I would take a second USB port over a headphone jack 99%, unless they can just go ahead and do both.
headphone jack saved more phones screens than any protector
Wtf so true.When your phone ends up hanging by the headphone cord and you just pick it in your hand is so reassuring.
so f-ing true
Boris Surkan fing
@@Wade_Fucking_Wilson problem fixed
Once my iPhone 6 (iPhone that has a headphone jack) was in my hands I was putting it in my Pocket and it slipped but I had headphones on and it almost game me a heart attack as it was the only smartphone in our house back then
"We don't have enough space to work with"
*Proceeds to add more camera with every new releases*
Wendigo well to be fair photo and vid quality is really good on the iPhone 11
@@tiresoup1824 Doesn't excuse their reasoning that they used from way back when they started removing headphone jack though.
@@tiresoup1824 a lot of the processing is done by the processor itself and software too which definitely helps.
Wendigo well no. That was that they believe that the dying headphone jack would be a waste of space. That being said, it was no doubt force-marketing for airpods
@@tiresoup1824 Ah yes...The infamous airpod "courage" presentation...
Them removing it in tablets defeats all their prior logic.
Super Sophisticated im sticking to my ipad 6gen because it still has a jack and it usually 60FPS
Nah man, it's because they can make the battery on a gigantic tablet a few cubic millimeters bigger! SO much extra battery life....... that you can use to power the thirsty bluetooth module to connect to your airpods!!!
@@MSNWindows7 Lol
They just want you to buy a doc or something.
Reggie Magan its a joke
What excuse is there for tablets? They have plenty of space...
Wtf are you doing here?!? lol I love ur vids
@@sunzun261 stoopid, let him watch vids
and I hate people that say "OoooOOOOH I am SUCH a FAN of YOU, YOU VIDS A GRAET I LUV THEM PLS"
Name cannot be blank yeah, I'm not trying to get their attention, I just wanna know why a minecraft RUclipsr is on a ltt vid
@@sunzun261 This may come as a shock to you, but people can have more than one interest.
I have an ipad and its got a headphone jack
There's courage, and then there's stupidity.
I'd say greed over stupidity. They know that the people that are willing to buy a phone without a headphone jack are dumb enough to not think about buying more of their over-priced accessories in dongle form. Also, they get to push their own branded goods over anything else. It's predatory market practice under the guise of innovation. It's Apple's way.
Nah, they are just evil.
Apple was greedy, stupidity is what followed in the next years, with everybody making the same mistake.
and then there's apple followed by samsung
I can't say how many times my headphone jack saved my phone from falling to the floor.
Same though
just use a charging cable and put it around your neck and use bt headphones
@@macho7409 ikr they have so much latency
Inwas using headphone jack and wired earphones as Blade of Chaos😅..
to pull out things..
cuase I am lazy
3:14 That is just flat out incorrect. Wireless transmission of audio delivers objectively poorer sound quality and is more prone to interference than cables. And as for digital connectors, there is going to be a digital to analog conversion anyway, the only difference is that it happens inside the headphone rather than the phone. Not to mention that the best sounding headphones still use a jack for connection, so you're going to need a headphone jack if you want to maximize sound quality, even if a better connector could exist in theory.
Amen, brother!
I'd like to add that analog interference is not even a problem at such short cable lengths. In the professional audio world balanced audio connectors are used. but in those cases cable lengths greater than 5m are common.
They are trying real hard to make it work. Still sucks.
Yeah but the best sounding headphones you are talking about are studio headphones and thats different, you are not going to be going to the gym with studio hp worth thousands of $. Not to mention that those hp use different type of jack than your 15$ earpods so you wouldnt use them anyway.
And unless you are really fanatic into music using great headphones, the best sound formats and have excelent hearing you will hardly notice any significant difference going from cable to wireless. I have over 100$ headphones, listening to cheap downloads or from youtube etc like most people do and I hardly hear any real difference when I use them wireless or with jack.
@@cent3786 we like options, i can use my $5 earbuds for the gym or i can use my $500 headphones on a 15hour flight...
Fact of the matter is phones have de facto replaced dedicated music players, sure you can go out and buy a dap but who really wants be carrying around another device in their pocket?
you talk about a different jack for balanced headphones, maybe we should be moving in that direction instead of deleting the jack altogether...we should be moving towards better sound quality instead of away from it, we should be getting better amps and dac's in our phones instead it's going the other way....and any idiot can look at what the audio market is doing and see there is a demand for this sort of thing, all of these portable amp and dacs wouldn't exist if phone manufactures were going about things the right way.
you idiots are actually advocating for less advancement, deleting the jack is the lazy way out and what do we really gain? 1/2 mil of thickness? maybe 20mins of extra battery life? it really doesn't make any sense why the public is supporting removing the headphone jacks...
Did you watch the video at all? They were showing picture of "pinocchio" with a long nose, thus implying that is a lie.
Well, Samsung has managed to put all possible features in the Note 9 (including a pen) without getting rid of the headphone jack, so waterproofing, bigger battery and new features are not an excuse
But then they insist on that dumbass curved screen. They were so close...
Ikr
@@trannusaran6164 I'm curious, what do you dislike about the curve?
@@RedstoneNinja1 ur right, it's much better than the notch
@@trannusaran6164 The curved screen is the way to go, I can hold the phone better and it feels better in my hand.
While I use bluetooth headphones on my phone most of the time, being able to just plug in wired headphones without thinking about battery and having better audio/mic is the reason I only buy phones with the 3.5mm hole
Agree 👍
These ass companies are launching phones without the jack... it has become extremely rare to get a good phone with a jack
@@maazali1595 Yeah ... even Bluetooth speaker are not convinient at all..there battery always degrades in time...and quality of sound are also not reliable
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We are dependent on connector now..wr have to seperately buy it from other shops
@@wildyato3737 as of now I have a phone which has a jack ( I bought it 3 years ago)...but I'm gonna buy a new phone in upcoming 3-4 months , hence I was researching just to get knowledge of the current best phones in mid price range.. guess what... no phone had a jack🙂
@@wildyato3737 it's not that I hate wireless...but it becomes a liability..like discharging when you're working/gaming/watching...then you've to charge it separately...not to mention the latency in cheap wireless earphones due to which u have to buy the expensive ones...hell even the expensive ones don't have the sound quality as good as the wired ones
I'm fine with innovation and inventing new things as long as there's a good alternative following what was being changed i.e. not what Apple is doing
Yoooo it's the bois holy crap
Isn't Bluetooth an alternative to the headphone jack tho
jre my yea but it’s more expensive and you have to charge them
@@kristinlangley5986 Bluetooth headphones and earphones are not that expensive now because apple have created more demands for it and unintentionally lowering the cost of production, and charging them isn't kind of a big deal considering their convenience
@@resmur8095 yeah, but i'm not going to change my headset to a bluetooth thing.
I really hate a smartphone without a headphone jack. I use it everyday and it is my regular input for audio.
So why not just use Bluetooth headphones? You're literally inconveniencing yourself for no reason.
@@luximperium4164 well bluetooth earphone have limited battery unlike wire earphone
Same bro
Buy for 20€ Bluetooth ... There are no cable that's amazing
@@afkonlv2505 Sound quality?
“They need the space.” No, untrue. Strange Parts added a headphone jack to a iPhone. It’s just a empty space where the headphone would be now.
“Waterproof” many manufactures waterproof phones with a headphone jack.
I use my headphone jack much more then I go swimming with my phone.
He broke like 10 screens while doing that and he put it right on the corner, that extra space was used to help the phone sustain accidental corner drops, if they had put the jack there the screen would shatter as soon as you dropped the phone and it hit the corner.
The waterproof headphone jack is patented and costs royalties meaning it drives the price up to give us something that most of us don't use anyway... no thanks.
The water resistance is for accidents, not for swimming with your phone... if the water gets in, the warranty doesn't cover you. Many people accidentally dropped their phone in the water, they are most abused pieces of technology on the planet, so water resistance makes much more sense than a crappy 3 pin connector from 60s that takes so much space.
@jackthegamer Nope even from 2 meters the iPhone dropped on a corner does not break, you get scratches and dings on corner, so it's all cosmetic and both the screen and back glass are still fine, this is because there is some room behind the frame which really helps to absorb the damage... adding a headphone jack which is pushing against the screen is the total opposite... there just wasn't room for it.
@@robertcrawshaw9978 Because he is trying to get that youtube ad revenue that pays for the iPad pro, there is no other reason to bend the ipad pro. I never understood this bending bullshit, I don't bend my iPad and it works fine... I appreciate it's light weight thin form factor that make it comfortable for holding over the thick ass devices that retards cannot bend.
Why would I do that? I know you're mad because my phone cost much more than your lagdroid but I'm not going to destroy the worlds best smartphone.
@@robertcrawshaw9978 You're living in the past, bluetooth is the future kids
There's no sign of intelligent life here!! Next planet!
Almost all of these points are meaningless once you factor in samsung...
1. Removed it for water resistance - S7 and up have all had water resistance, while keeping the headphone jack
2. Removed for space for more features - Samsung literally fit a pen in their phone, while keeping the massive amount of features they normally bring
3. Removed for a bigger battery - Samsung fits very large batteries in their phones, with a headphone jack, and with the note, *with a pen*
I do believe if apple didn't remove it, someone else would have, but it was much too early. Bluetooth headphones arent there yet
Looking at the massive size of the taptic engine space can not be the issue.
@xTopu Actually it was the S4 Active. But S5 was the first "standard model" with IP67
@@etekweb i think he was talking about audio quality
Sorry friend, but Samsung have one of the worst real world battery lifes out there. Don't try pointing me towards synthetic tests saying otherwise, i've already seen them. I've also owned a samsung and had to get rid of it after 9 months because of it's attrocious battery life, not to mention how fast their batteries degrade too. The only way a Samsung device's battery could get better is if it exploded. Oh wait, they tried that feature already. Didn't go down too well.
You do have a valid point with the first and second points though, although most people never even touch the S Pen. The main reason people buy a note is purely for the larger screen.
There is another point to be made as far as space goes too. Have you seen the inside of a Samsung phone? They still use the same small pack style batteries that have been in use for over a decade. They are generally much smaller than what other manufacturers use today, which begs the question:
With the fact samsung have atrocious battery life and degrade very quickly, are their batteries even the amount of Amps they say they are, or are they modding the battery's built in firmware to report a higher number than is true?
That would certainly explain how when I had an S7, it always died within 5 hours of being unplugged. I have never had that bad of a battery life with ANY phone before, Androids included. Even when I had a Sony Xperia Z2, that lasted all day despite having a 2K display, without problems. And I'm not the only one either. Every friend of mine who has/had a samsung reports the same complaints. Even Linus himself had to release a follow up video to his S9 review where he initially praised the battery - because he realised after some time that the battery is in fact, absolutely terrible. And by some time, I mean a mere few months, never mind the expected minimum device lifespan of 1-2 years.
@xTopu Yep, you are right. I was just thinking that the S6 wasnt water resistant, and my brain stopped there
I literally use my headphone jack daily. FIGURE IT OUT SAMSUNG.
bruh the s10 is water-resistant
@@sex_therapist ok but that's irrelevant
@@mmq007.1 it also has a headphone jack
yep ;-;
@@sex_therapist Lot more then one person mate.
I'm not buying a phone without the hole
7w7
USB-C
uwu
@@kinocchio USB-CLIT
It's a hard way of life
Manufacturer: Were making it more water resistent.
Me: do u think i swim with my phone? Lol
Manufacturer: were just struggling for space.
Me: not that i feel like i need half the stuff they throw in the phone, but the note 9 managed it and it was the best phone of its year imo.
Manufacturer: wireless is the future.
Me: my wired headphones are really high quality and im yet to see any wireless pair that even gets close. Maybe in 20 years that might change.
Also i dont have to charge my headphones like the wireless pairs. Which in itself makes it a better option.
Why I went back to wires sick of waiting on charging
and Samsung: Here's a phone with every little stupid thing you asked for. It's thinner than the last one, is still water resistant and the headphone jack is going nowhere!
Thank god that there are companies still out there that actually listen to their customers.
I REFUSE to buy a phone without basic features! The fact they might cram in 50 mAh more of battery (at best) is completely irrelevant to me when the phone consumes more power with fucking bluetooth on anyways! Not to mention you have to deal with the tiny battery of the wireless atrocity itself and on constant basis. Fuck that :)
Manufacturer: Water resistance is for accidents, so if water comes in contact with your phone it is not a big deal.
Manufacturer: the headphone jack takes lots of space for a 3 pin connector, could be used so much better and not all devices are same, note9 is a phablet and it's large, not even is the same category
Manufacturer: Bluetooth sound quality is already good enough and smartphones aren't audiophile devices. They are generally used outside with a lot of background noise. Make it two years especially since we will force everyone to use the new technology, which means a lot of testing and that will speed up it's development.
Also your wired earbuds are already "charging" on your phones battery, this is why you have these annoying wires that tangle, break and catch into everything they can.
@Tong Zou Because the headphone jack is going away now, from all devices promptly
@Tong Zou No the reason is that there are better ways like usb-c and bluetooth
What about removing the battery from smartphones so they can be super thin and light and whenever you want to use them you can just plug an external battery in the USB port
what if we made phones that have screens that are also transparent solar panels... then have capacitors that can hold a charge of a few hours! Im a genius!
That's actually a really good idea, opens up lots of other possibilities as well
Why dont we remove the charging port. When you run out of battery you just buy a new phone. It's that easy!
Venom415 that actually really is 😂
wwwKx terrible idea
My headphones are more valuable than my phone, therefore they dictate what I need from my phone
How cheap is your phone?
@@watwat9864 Good Question
@@watwat9864 nono, how expensive is the headphones
Who Are You? $120 but you can find rip-offs with 80% quality online.
@@watwat9864 why would you buy rip-offs?
My LG V30 is water resistant, has a headphone jack and is thinner than an iPhone. 🤷♂️
Guess Apple lied.
In 2021 June, I'm still using my LGV30 for headphones jack reason.. And this video came when I type "newest smartphone with headphones jack" to buy in 2021
Lg is dead & looks like apple was right lol
@@kazamamayacecile5012 I know I'm late, but probably the best phones with a headphone jack to buy are currently the Sony 5 and Sony 1 series. The only other options I can think of are the Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro, the Samsung A52s and the Samsung S20 FE 5G. The rest of phones either don't have a headphone jack or have a weak processor.
@@cruzdesangre2850 yeah but cmon. think about budget phones. there are so many on the market now, for example last gen samsungs or whatever else. they go for sub 300 USD and still have headphone jacks. apple can seriously screw off with their bullshit. hell, look at motorolla with nearly every single one of their phones, flagship or not, STILL HAVING HEADPHONE JACKS! plus adapters and bluetooth drain your battery life way more than a integrated headphone jack. or well, atleast at the same range of dac/amp. once you look at higher end dac/amps be it internal or through a adapter battery drain isn't a question anymore, its just bound to happen. sadly. but hey, atleast I can still charge my phone while listening to music on *wired* headphones.
@@mellywonka_ Apple simp.
and yet Samsung managed to put an entire pen in it
And better water and dust protection.
And a headphone jack.
@SnowySkies it's still the same size as iPhone 10s max and has 1000mah more battery an s pen whick is water sealed from inside a headphone jack and no notch.
@SnowySkies curved rectangle that looks better than iphone xxx
@SnowySkies "the notch is good" stop commenting and go to sleep.
My phone is perfectly fine with a headphone jack
In a few years Apple is gonna create “wired airpods” and “invent” the headphone jack
Linepods?
LG beat them to it.... The new LG v60 slick slim and has a head
phone jack and even FM radio! and dual screen Addon! Even have a 32
bit quad DAC! and is water/dust resistance
harw you don’t need to comment 4 times buddy
@@mrkitloin sry abt that think its a bug in browser.... I will delete.
@@nsevv happens sometimes
I refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack.
Same
Same here, definitely. I use it every single day.
Get some bose you peasant
@@Nickknows00 Still not as good as a cable. I have Bose QC35's and the quality is a vast difference when the cable is used.
@@Nickknows00 Lmao Bose
“There’s always room for Jack” - JerryRigEverything
actually unbox therapy
lol xD @@swiftrealm
Next - remove the charging port to sell you the solution!
If you make room for Jack, you won't win 11 Oscars.
Strange Parts actually managed to mod an iPhone so it has a mini jack
i prefer the headphone jack, because i don't need to worry about another device to be charged and another battery that stops working after a year of use. Also i prefer phones that have replaceable batteries over waterproof ones. Aaand really like to have IR on top of the phone to turn my tv on and off.
What exactly are people doing the Waterproofing Is THAT much of a necessity hell i often have snow in my pocket with my phone( middle coat pockets are great snow catchers when you got your hands in them). I had 2 phones max. The First one lasted me 4 years before one fateful day when it fell 1 foot and cracked despite it surviving for so long the edges of the phone is chipped, scratched and dented to hell and back. But the 1 foot drop ended it. Hell my screen was still flawless. No scratches at all.
My current phone is fine despite the same issue. I drop it occasionally so the sides are all scuffed up and chipped(i just never find the need to buy a case). but the screen again is still flawless(i just take that much care for it) the only problem with it is the Headphone jack has worn out.
Why would you take your phone near water anyways? If you are at the beach you should enjoy it, if you are at the pool you should enjoy it. I'd take more features that are better than some earphones that will probably fall out and get lost. Idk what apple was thinking.
Mate 10 from Huawei has nice features but I do not know about the screen Hz ... I would love the LG g2 3 rear buttons or the upgraded ones on the v10 ... high-quality camera and no notch and mah that is higher than 5000
@@eqeqeqe9547 you have some people say they live in (insert coastal city here) and that apparently is reason enough for waterproofing because they like to take picutres or videos near water. I'm like really your not jesus standing IN the water so unless you got butter fingers or are hanging far from where you should that's not a problem. But then you also got these people with pants SO tight that the phone can barely even fit In there pants and then on top of that carry it in the backpocket with like more then half the phone sticking out. Geez i wonder why you go through phones like candy.
Just a little attentiveness and forward thinking and your phone can survive Years. Bar any internal problems.
I miss IR sooo much on my Samsung
Next, they will remove the charging port and say we have no space for it
Wireless charging intensifies
@EM srry but seems like you misunderstood my reply. OP said that they will remove the charging port next. My intended joke was, wireless charging will become common if they do something like that.
Ofcourse I'm against it. I'm ALL IN for having a charging port (if they ever remove it 😂) AND having a headphone jack 🙌
No charging port makes wireless charging but it sucks, you cant charge while using it on bed, air charge?(i saw xiaomi phone with the feature, a bit skeptikal on how it works) Goodluck with all the static accumulation you will feel a lot of sting and possibly fry your phone circuits
@EM Airdrop:😁
@EM bluetooth, like you can already
Samsung can fit a pen and have the slot the pen goes into, water proof... And a headphone jack.
And its still more waterproof than Apple's shit phone
@Linton apple could box an apple shaped pile of shit and people would buy it. Wait, did i say they could? They already do. All the time.
@spicywatermelon yes, but almost every competitor can do everything any of apples phones can do AND MORE.
@@ajg8600 😂😂how????
@@ajg8600 Not really more waterproofed than Apple's iPhone. The XS and XS Max have IP68 certification for 2 meters submerged for 30 minutes, while Samsung's S10 and Note 9 have for 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Considering the way Apple is going (leaks saying that they're working on underwater functional screens, and others...), I wouldn't be surprised if they release a full waterproofed phone in the future (phones today aren't actually waterproofed, they're just water resistant).
The moment you try to sell me a phone without the jack, we're done talking.
Bad enough I can't even swap batteries anymore and may have to deal with the damn notch, you're not forcing me to buy $60 earbuds that are stiff, uncomfortable, and get lost easily too.
I quite frankly don't understand what's the big deal about the notch. Is that couple millimetres more space really that important? For the looks I don't really understand either, phone with and without notch look practically identical.
Lg v20 was the last phone that had a removable battery,i have it and im lucky that it works like the first day
@@fruit5003 The notch is annoying as it cuts into whatever you're trying to play, watch, do, etc as most programs that are full-screen don't account for it since the screen wraps around it. Basically, you're missing a chunk of your image for the sake of thinner bezels. Not remotely worth it.
Just glad my G6 doesn't have it.
@@swolf712 Or, if you buy a phone that actually did it well, it will black out the sides of the notch and act like a "normal" phone with fullscreen apps. Like the OnePlus 6/6T do.
@@swolf712 I hate phones with bezels. When I looked at smartphones, I chose one that wasn't too Locked down in cost, like apple products are known for. B, I chose something that wasn't smooth around the edges. I want a squarish edge. And three, A headphone jack since I didn't want to have ot buy new ones.
But ye, I do not mind the idea of removing it, but at least provide an alternative. USB-C? Sure... If you add an extra jack or provide the Dongle with the product.
And waterproofing claim just sounds silly. Headphone jacks aren't harder to water proof than USB-C connector. Merely size difference, is all.
Listening to this video through my headphone jack
lmao me to
absolute madlad
Me too lol, V30 for the win
Me too but in a low end moto g5
AdOLy KsA only ever living on the edge
"We don't have space!" Bruh. My Xiaomi phone has the 3.5mm jack, a mechanized front facing camera and still manages to fit in a 4000mAh battery. It's not like that made sacrifices either. The CPU and "graphics accelerator" were the fastest on the market when I bought it. It doesn't even get hot.(though I usually play less intensive games, if I remember playing PUBG also didn't heat it up though) The battery holds up nice too. Lasts long and charges fast. All that for a fraction of an iPhone with the downside being I wouldn't be surprised if Xiaomi spied on people though Apple is probably doing the same... Not even gonna mention Google. That argument is just bull.
No need to argue they are making use of smartphone too much smart and modern can't be imagine
I'm watching this with headphones connected to 3.5 mm jack
Peculiar boast but alas
SAME
Same here my man same here, using Apple earbuds No Doubt on an HTC M9 that I bought about six months ago merely because it had a headphone jack and newer phones are not competing well enough for the price points
I'm watching this with headphones connected to a 6.35 mm jack :)
I'm watching this on headphones with a 1/4" jack because I'm 'Merican and I'mma build a wall to keep your weird 6.35mm jacks out.
The headphone jack is still important today and will always be. I will never buy a phone without it.
Same. I charge my phone and use the headphone to speak to my friends and family all the time. So if I have to use a dongles I can't charge my phone. Also with dongles there are digital and analog dongles and some phones only use digital and other use analog dongles. So if you buy the wrong dongles it won't work with it. Using bluetooth headsets means I have to charge it and if I forget then well I can't use it. Also when traveling all planes ban the use of bluetooth headphones when it is in the air and the you actually need to have a regular headphone jack to connect to their 3.5mm jack to listen to audio.
I only buy phones with headphone jack and there are tons of phones still keep the headphone on.
Dude.. wtf
It won't always be important. The markets will find replacement options for all your problems. However, until that happens, I'm sticking with phones that have a headphone jack.
@@michaelyun2407 Not true for all aircraft. Most flights I've been on advise you to use Airplane Mode to turn off mobile signal but you can still turn on Bluetooth and Wifi. They might discourage it during takeoff and landing though. I used to think charging without music was a problem but I can move around freely with a Bluetooth headphone while the phone charges. It's more cumbersome to have two wires leashed to your phone while you're charging and listening to music at the same time.
@Michael Yun - that's Apple's next big plan. They will start selling Apple Juicevault. It is an innovative, creative design of a totally new product. It will allow you to connect your iPhone, iEarpodswhatevs and iDongles to it in a unique and intuitive manner. The function of the device is to allow your Apple products to interact seamlessly and juice their batteries at the same time. Apple Juicevault. Don't delay, buy today :-D
the headphone jack is my most used function, removing that is THE dealbreaker.
I replaced my phone because said headphone jack broke, so it certainly is important to me.
the only thing that changes is that you can't charge and use headphones at the same time if they are wired phones, besides that it's the exact same
@@SuperXicor , with wireless charging that's not a problem, you also can get an adapter with two ports. But it's still an extra expense, but you can solve it if there is no dedicated head phone jack.
@@hannaha4305 Ever tried wireless charging while doing anything with the device? Even the cord of a wired headphone would pull it from the sweetspot of the charging coil.
@@0xbenedikt , no can't say I have, if I needed to work with my phone while wireless charging I would use my wireless ear buds though.
They might even remove the power input in the future, just saying.
Reminds me of wireless charging.
I wish there was another way though. The power button has gone dodgy in my phone so everytime the wifi cuts out I have to take off the cover and press the little but of solder with a thin metal object at the right angle to restart it. Theres no other way to get to the restart option.
But how are you supposed to transfer files from you PC? Or vice versa?
@@thosko98 Bluetooth or Wifi using their proprietary app.
It sucks.
@@the_allucinator My desktop doesn't even have Wifi or Bluetooth though lol
"Courageous" or not, I won't be buying a smartphone without a headphone jack.
In a few years time, apple will "invent" the headphone jack
Lol
Just like how they "invented" face unlock
It's a brand new "Innovation" Along with this, there will be these "Corded earbuds". As this "Brave new idea"
just like face recognition lol samsung's been having that.
Apple: "invents" the headphone jack
Apple-customers: Shut up and take my money
lets be honest. the ONLY reason companies are getting rid of this is so that YOU have to buy SPECIFIC headphones/earbuds to even use the feature.
which is a great way (for them) to make considerably more money while screwing us up.
This is EXACTLY the real reason. They cant block cheap chinese headphones because the headphone jack has no logic. Enter the ''digital' connector. In a few years you'll only be able to connect Apple approved headphones. After that only with the right DRM protection etc. Yay DRM!
ViperNL if we ever go down that route of digital rights compatible garbage I will stick with an older phone until the end....
Love your profile pic, Blake
yes, and next thing you know, the'll be pushing a bt speaker because they couldn't fit a speaker in the phone anymore 😒
@@jamesbrandon8582 or you could just buy a good Lg and download Linux if it gets that bad
I don’t want Bluetooth headphones I have to charge every 4 hours when my phone battery lasts a whole day
We have headphones that can play continuously for more that a day
@@Aporro1 doesn't matter they quality suck
@@IAm-zo1bo yeah no check the airpods pro, Samsung buds plus or pro and the creative outlier air v2
Buy Apple. You won't notice your phone lasting longer.
@@IAm-zo1bo wrong Wired headphones are far better and way more affordable for people that love music
My headphones are wired and I can use them for hours continuously without the battery on my phone going flat
Bluetooth is a terrible battery hog
Why remove the headphone jack from iPad?
There are so many pro audio apps for ipad (animoog, iMS-20, Garageband even!). What the hell?
Idk I have the new iPad and now I can’t use my headset I got a few months ago
Rosetta Stoned 🤣
@Nomis Nart WHY?
Because dongle
And that's fellas how Apple makes money... :) It's not ancient technology like many dumbass here says. It's just extra profit for Apple and stupid trend.
3.5mm jack removed for water resistance? Galaxy note 8/9 have it, micro SD slot and a slot for a pen and are just as "waterproof" as any iphone or possibly more so. NEXT.
Also Samsung phone's have the most features out of most phones.
r/choosingbeggars leader is here
@@khomchat1 best feature of Samsung phones: EXPLODES!!
@@vi23a I get it XD
@@vi23a any battery can explode
The fact that it's not in their tablets shows that the "space saving" argument is BS. Maybe waterproofing is an argument, but I'm sure 90% of people would rather have a phone with some sort of cover to waterproof the headphone jack than no headphone jack at all. And the Samsung Galaxy S5, one of the first phones to have waterproofing, needed a cover for the charging port, and not the headphone jack, showing that it was easier to waterproof the headphone jack than the charging port. I'm gonna stick with my theory that they're removed to push the company's wireless headphones which coincidentally happen to release when a company gets rid of a headphone jack.
One RUclipsr even built an headphone jack into an iPhone. So yeeaaah
@@Styler_GTX link that if possible
You got that right. Waterproofing is as weak of an argument as space saving, these are just excuses to push out more expensive solutions. It is no coincidence but a planned out strategy to get people to spend more money.
@Mondrow Thought of that video too :D
@Mondrow thats the video I meant
the only companies left that put headphone jacks in their high-end phones are sony and LG.
Sony was abandoning phone jack in XZ1 to Xperia 1 1st gen
Glad i have an lg
Motorola as well.
Oppo?
cause they believe if we are spending this much then we might also spend on bluetooth one
Samsung Galaxy S9+
1. Waterproofing better than the iPhone X
2. Has a headphone jack
3. Has a Micro SD card slot
4. No stupid notch
5. Dual sim
6. Iris scanner (better than face ID)
7. Way cheaper!!
I liked this comment
Apple: well, uhhh, uhhh, look! is a beautiful Apple Logo!
3. Has an SD slot
I love Samsung for not doing all that bullshit to their devices.. I mean there's still some rumors that they're gonna remove the headphone jack on the S10 series, but c'mon, it's just a rumor
Truth.
Screw the money grab.
The reason is to sell more expensive wireless stuff.
Really it to kill us with wireless signals. You know 5g is going to be the death of us.
Dont forget other phone manufacturers following apples stupid lead. Its clear a lot of people still want the jack, I dont understand why more companies wouldnt capitalize on that and cash in.
Dongles have worse audio quality then bluetooth, companies are trying to dumb down the masses to what good audio is so they can sell expensive bluetooth headphones. and for the Sheep of these brands its working.
I think is to lower production cost.
Venom415 the stupid thing is that the dongle has much better audio quality than Bluetooth but some companies think their customers are stupid. At least it wont disappear on PCs, there isnt a reason of space. We need more place on the IO of the Motherboard isnt a reason, usually you don’t put "important“ things there(USB and other dongles are important but not as CPU socket).
Wireless connections do not have the higher quality audio fidelity of a wired solution. its just crazy. I will never buy a phone that dose not have a headphone jack. my choice to vote with my pocket.
just get a Samsung and get a more honest customer service and repair. it makes for a better experience and has the bonus of being lighter on the pocket.
Wireless is high quality audio fidelity. Bluetooth sends data around the 2.4GHz, same as WiFi.
electronics.howstuffworks.com/bluetooth4.htm
Change my mind.
@@malachi3438 its simple. Air doesn't allow to transfer as much data as copper does, so the quality of wireless will never fully reach that of wired.
try this for a blind test ruclips.net/video/ZLjPt0oI2ZA/видео.html
could you explain how wireless does or doesnt have higher quality than a wired signal coming out of a dac from a digital source?
How they gunna remove everything for "water protection" then complain everything is water damage and never fix anything
That's why they want to remove it... So there is less water damage idiot
@@volkan7844 You're the idiot here.
@@volkan7844 idiot
@@volkan7844 hes saying there still is a lot of water damage and they wont even fix it either, dumbass
@@volkan7844 idiot
Sorry, I like the privacy of listening to my own audio with my preferred headphones without having to buy overpriced garbage or yet another overpriced dongle.
@@person10 indeed you can, but key here is "preferred headphones," which may be a studio-quality set of headphones or even a stereo system with an auxiliary in port
@@nopushbutton Yeah, that's the other thing. I have these Klipsch 2.1 speakers with a 200-watt built-in amp that I don't use on my PC anymore. (Got smaller Logitechs, because limited desk space since I moved.) They're old, but they still sound amazing. So I set them up in a den, where I get together with family and friends. My phone makes a perfect music source, although I sometimes press my laptop into service for this. It's nice to be able to hook up the phone to all sorts of audio-reproduction equipment, not just earbuds.
@@nopushbutton
That's a big thing most people don't mention when regarding missing the analog jack. You get REAL quality and compatibility with larger stereo/sorround sound sets. Does everyone use that? Of course not. But again, it's just one more reason why there is no excuse for removing the jack. It has so much freaking compatibility.
The dongle comes with the phone.
@@vp721 Until it is broken or lost, yes.
1. Wireless headphones are expensive and take a bit to connect compared to just plug and play of the headphone jack.
2. Bluetooth headphones require to be charged and if they do not use the same connector as your other devices then that is another new charger you have to carry around.
3. Latency in mobile gaming which (for better or worse) is a big deal is a major issue. Also mid game disconnections, re-connections require exiting the game most of the time.
4. Dongles (included ones) do not allow charge and use at the same time, another big need for mobile phone gaming.
5. Wireless earphones create issues with WiFi sometimes when they are running over the same frequency.
6. Usb-C earphones are another cluster since one earphone might not work with another phone that also has the same USB-C standard. Cross compatibility sucks balls.
There is no point of removing something essential such as the headphone jack when you provide no alternative that is as good as or in most cases better than the current solution.
It is a dumb thing and will remain a dumb thing until there is a genuine replacement. That said I will have to live with it because Apple did it, and monkey see, monkey do.
Edit : I had two 3s, also I don't think the video is entirely bad. Some people prefer wireless even with all these downsides because it's cleaner aesthetically. These are just my thoughts on why this happened too early in the evolution of tech.
Exactly. Wireless is not an alternative! This video is utter bullshit.
This is a message to the manufacturesa tgat ditched the headphone jack"Why ditch the headphone jack and still and make and provide a dongle if you think the headphone jack is unnecessary?"
The cost of wireless headphones is going down quite fast. You can get cheap ones for 20-30$. Charging is annoying especially if your headphones still use microUSB but it's not a big deal for me. I agree about latency in mobile gaming, but that is probably more a problem with the OS or the specific device. My Windows 10 laptop has AptX on Bluetooth 5.0 and I get almost no lag in gaming compared to my Note 9 which has AptX and Bluetooth 5.0.
@@FrankyboyLegend Cheap Bluetooth earphones are generally not BT 5.0, nor Aptx certified. Whereas I can buy a $10 earphone and have non of these issues using the jack. Also cheaper ones have various issues with disconnections and whatnot. I've had multiple cheaper variants of BT earphones disconnect when my phone is in my pocket or just covered up by something big such as a pillow.
6. when battery off wireless headphone dies the Wireless headphones is useless
No jack, no phone. I use my headphone jack on an almost daily basis.
TLDR version; headphone cord got caught on chair, human galaxy a10 torpedo
While some people say “the headphone jack protects it from falls” the headphone jack can pop out. As a matter of fact I had a headphone jack phone that broke because of it; I was walking over to the fridge to get some food and my headphone jack got caught on a chair and I fell face first and my phone met a horrible fate
@@tiresoup1824 So you're idiocy and inability to be aware of your surroundings means we're wrong. Gotcha
@Jai Rey Who? Samsung? They're the ones who make iPhones so it only makes sense.
@Jai Rey they do supply display screens thp and tha thankfully i have the last Samsung phone with head phone jack which is s10+ :(((((
I love the headphone jack. I have like 3 pairs of headphones and they would be useless without the headphone jack. I think audio quality of the headphone jack is better.
Oh my poor sennheisers would be useless without that
Yes, quality with cable is better, wireless sucks (mean for sound)
I hate what apple has done
@@Deinobi Same, and now other companies including Samsung are starting to follow suit. I'm worried for the future of smartphones
If you really want wired headphones, you can use Lightning or USB C headphones.
Aux cords are great! Compatibility is king!
'we need the space' 'for things like TRIPLE CAMERA's' (rolls eyes)
Triple cameras are awesome and a heck alot better usage of space than a connector that only has 3 pins
@ Ummm more cameras are awesome when they each do their own thing... I like those wide shots, way more useful than a jack which I never use
@@harshnemesis i rarely use my phones camera, infact my previous phone's back camera broke and i didnt even bother fixing it
@@mmehdi3437 This is understandable... because with samsuck I can't even tell if it's android or gameboy camera... it looks the same.
@@harshnemesis S10 and S10 Plus have 3 cameras, and still has a Jack. S10 5G, 4 cameras and still has good ole Jack. The whole no space lie is a gimmick and funny how people actually fall for it. Galaxy has flagship specs and features plus the Jack.
I'd rather have a headphone jack than a water proof phone, I'm not gonna go swimming with it
You can make water resistance with a headphone jack
proof: lg v40
I've taken my phone to the pools, beach, shower over 100 times and it has a headphone jack
Same here.
I would rather have a slightly thicker phone for more battery and a headphone jack
I used to own a zte phone it had a headphone jack and it's survived being dropped on the road twice and being dropped in a pool, not a scratch on it.
Imagine watching a video about headphone Jack's disappearing while using headphones that use a headphone jack
A phone being thin and light is nice, but much lower on my list of priorities than things like resistance to bending, battery life, and what I consider to be basic features, like a headphone jack. Also, past a certain point I don't really notice how thick it is in my daily usage, I would be happy use something the size of the original iphone if it was more capable.
Phones are so fragile you need a case these days anyway, so an extra couple millimetres makes no difference
A phone should not disappear in you pocket. While nobody wants a huge brick, fact is, most phones were already "thin enough" and "light enough" 5-10 years ago. Making them thinner and lighter is actually making them worse.
My good Sir, have an upvote for a very sensible comment!
And I mean odds are if they are making phones this thin that operate well, why not make them the same size they have been and not so thin, just space for extra features that define the phone
funny i had this argument with a friend like 6 years back. i was thinking the same shit back then, i don't need a fucking paper thin phone that costs almost 2 grand. i want a durable phone that has all the features i use.
The Part with "they need more space for other features" is bullshit. I mean, the youtuber Strange Parts
even build his own Headphone Jack into his Iphone. So there is clearly enough space. It is just a money making machine for all these dongel and bluetooth stuff.
To be fair he did remove one thing. Not sure what feature it was for, i think it was more precise movement detecting or something to do with movements.
But he did it to an allready assembled phone. If it was designed with it in mind from the beginning, then maybe they could have gotten in it with that other chip he took out.
Josch Augustenborg Nielsen he removed the useless piece of black plastic that Apple put there to fill the space where the headphone jack was
Louis Rossman said that there is space for it too.
@Pixel Man It's clearly NOT an airplane. Airplanes HAVE headphone jacks...
maxitosupreme not all.
I'm a simple guy, I like my phones to remain notchless and to have a headphone jack.
Ditto
The iPhone do actually have a headphone jack. Instead of an AUX, you now connect it to the charging port
yeah, not having to charge headphones is nice.
I like medium sized bezels
@@Junta57 are you actually that ignorant and blind? We want to be able to actually CHARGE our devices while listening to music without some stupid dongle we have to carry around
The amount of flagships today that don't have the jack are so many that simply having it in one flagship device can quite literally make it stand out from the competition now.
I wonder what would happen if a startup came along and released a phone that was relatively thick (at least by today's standards), that incorporated all features consumers looked for. A headphone jack, the biggest battery that's available, dual cameras, wireless charging, expandable memory, no notch display that's 120hz, and most importantly, stock android (no dumb skin or bloatware). I mean call me crazy, but I'd happily buy a thicker phone if it meant I got more functionality out of it.
Edit : Of course extensive R&D would be necessary to create a good user experience. Weight and heat are definitely concerns, those are the issues that would need to be addressed, new technology and innovations are always in development so with lighter components and better heat transfer solutions, it could be possible. In all honesty I thought the newer Samsung phones were close to perfect, but the poor android skin and the fact that they can't help but push Bixby down people's throat was a major turn off. In terms of public perception and marketing, developing a good brand image is hard and takes time, however not impossible. Mother's not buying phones for their weight is a real thing, but that's where the free market comes in. This kind of phone would not be for everyone, and that's fine.
And a removable battery!
You aren't crazy. Even JerryRigEverything said he would buy a phone like that instead of a thin phone with less features.
+ the fact that it would be probably less bendable or fragile in general
rerelease moto G ?
I would rather go with a less feature packed phone with a fast soc, a big removable battery and a headphone jack of course for a mid-range price.
Oh so you have to remove the headphone jack for your phone to be waterproof?
Tell that to Samsung
@@cloroxbleach2520 Yeah but apple's reasoning is total BS
And Sony, and lg. Hell having a headphone jack is a SELLING POINT of the LG v series, because it has a built in quad DAC
@@Demonslayer20111 the G series as well now!
*Apple knows that their customers are idiots- so they treat them as such.*
@@cloroxbleach2520 Yes, but Apple was rumored to have the 6s be waterproof, right around when Samsung released the S7.
Also, the S4 active was waterproof and was released right after the Xperia z.
I prefer a headphone jack over a 3th camara
3rd*
@@1685Violin 3st**
3nd***
I prefer a headphone jack over any camera.
Thirth?
I ordered a bluetooth to audio jack adapter last night. Thanks for the innovation. Now i have 2 devices to recharge.
What? A thing you plug your headphones into, and then that thing connects to your phone via Bluetooth? How far from your phone can you get?
@@vara202 i got a stroke reading this
Sorry dude. This whole thing is about the $$$
None of those other reasons you gave made any sense. Considering Apple's competitors managed to do all that and THEN some without removing it. Apple just wants your money. Look up their earnings from last year. It's disgusting how much they make off of the dongle for 3.5mm headphones alone.
So, a company operating in a capitalist context is not supposed to make money? Or you just have to hate Apple for some reason?
@@Simboiss no, but if they actively make our lives worse and screw us over with overpriced mediocre products, setting anti consumer business trends, it makes sense to dislike them.
@Vladimir Putin What is one of the best leaders in the world and best friend of kim god ruler of true korea one of the best nations in the world. Far better then the US or false korea
Sometimes the best answer is the most mundane. Agreed.
It's all about the money. Also, the newer MacBooks don't have a HDMI port. They do have a DisplayPort. You need to buy an expensive adaptor, from Apple of course, if you want to display a MacBook on your TV.
If your going to remove the head phone jack feature either replace it with something equal or better or don't mess with it at all.
Better than a headphone jack? What, are their phones gonna fry bacon now?
@@TiagoMorbusSa a 2nd Type C has the potential to be better in the future, if prices for Type C headphones are on a reasonable level
@@9SMTM6 It's not about a reasonable price. It's about cross compatibility. I use my headphones on different computers, on my phone, on my tablet, on other people's computers and workstation. Not to mention that I have enthusiast-level headphones that will last me a decade, easily. I'm not gonna buy new ones because of corporate grid. What I'll do is buy a crappier phone, and I have.
Another reason to continue with the headphone jack, Type C can be used for royalties or just for a brand.
@@9SMTM6 can't agree. The Type C connector is inherently more complex by design, it just can never be cheaper to produce and to implement on production machinery, let alone hobbysts. So you've added a cost factor there regardless of a DAC even being there, I'm still assuming analog out will be present (adding a DAC will be yet another cost again, which can never mach it's absence in the replaceable device's end). In case it has a DAC, add to that list power wasted on an extra power conversion stage, that would not be necessary if the DAC was inside the device that already needed those power rails inside.
Not to mention that while USB Type C can be reversed, the round connector can, well, rotate even while plugged to infinite steps.
Quality wise we could already use better external DACs (and thus USB headphones/amps) long before, so that's not an added advantage either. Not to mention that the DAC would have to be better than what the sending device has to begin with, not the case with the vast majority of USB headsets out there, that barely match a PC's on-board sound.
2014: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot
2015: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot, removable batteries
2016: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot, removable batteries, a headphone jack
2017: I'm not buying a phone without a memory card slot, removable batteries, a headphone jack and with a notch
2018: FOUR cameras? Are you kidding me?!
2019: *sigh* hope my several years old phone doesn't break or I'm in deep shit
Dw big guy, the samsung A70 has all of these (apart from the removable battery, and a very small notch.. 3 cameras enough for you?)
@@Perambulous "apart from..." no thank you
@@Perambulous a 'very small' notch is still a notch.
@@dominic.h.3363 Well, it's likely never coming back, like, at this point unless if you want one of those super-budget phones, there is little to no-point waiting.
If you want a good lower-price phone, One Plus makes great phones.
And I say the lack of Memory Card Slot is offset by most phones having 64 GB at the minimum, or 128 in some cases.
@@Alovon Liking your own comment I see. :P 64 GB is ridiculously small because two thirds of it is already taken by the OS. I fill the remaining storage in a few hours, then I need to off-load it to somewhere else. No thank you. Besides, memory cards are orders of magnitudes cheaper than the same phone with better internal storage one step up. I could buy a terabyte of microSD cards from the price difference. I will not budge. My next phone will either have everything my LG G4 has just more of it, or I won't buy one, it's that simple.
Samsung: we removed the headphone jack because it was taking too much space
Also Samsung: *fits a whole ass pen and housing for it*
*confusion noises*
They did it to make more money. Sad, really
the first 2 factors I look at when considering whether to buy a phone or not nowadays:
1) a headphone jack
2) no notches
these are things that weren't even in question a few years ago and now it immediately cuts half of the phones out there out of the picture. It's always disappointing when you see a video talking about a phone and the phone looks really, really good and has a lot of cool features just for you to find out that there's a big ugly notch and there's no headphone jack. Huge turn off. The phone would have to offer something truly spectacular, like transforming into a flying car that can bring me anywhere in the world without ever needing to recharge, in order for me to even consider overlooking those 2 issues.
notches actually not that bad if you consider the cutted screen as extra and didn't actually giving up any functionality
but headphone jack is useful
One plus phones allow you to remove notch
Lol
@@dedoyxp the thing is it does.
Good luck with that first one in a few years 😂
All the BS reasons given out by companies are simply to eek out some more money from you.. S8/S9/Note all have headphone jacks and are both thin and water resistant..
I'd rather have a phone that's easy to disassemble than one with water resistance that's difficult to disassemble
@@Knowbody42 why would you disassemble your phone yourself?
rahul nargundkar Don’t worry, Samsung is removing too. They only keep at right now because they know it’s Samsung fanboys that go LOOK IT HAS A HEADPHONE JACK and that makes people buy it. None of these tech companies are on your side. They all want one thing, money.
@@Wilbertchople one way to make more money is to be more consumer friendly so more people buy their phone.
Meleter Gaming Not really, look how good apple was doing before they set the price over the edge.
I wouldn't mind a phone with 2 headphone jacks.
Ben Gregoire Design My iMac g3 has 3!
Marshal has made one already
adapter
My laptop has two
You are a GENIUS
My god this 3.5mm port is taking up so much space in my ever expanding sized phones
Apple: "Oh yeah we removed the headphone jack because it occupied space"
* *Removes headphone jack on tablet as well even though it's got like 10x the size of a phone* *
Also, who tf buys phones cuz they're thin? i can't be the only one that hates that trend right? Make the thing better not smaller. It already fits perfectly in my pocket
I love my Moto e4+ I just got. It's kinda large compared to other phones, cuz of the huge battery. Hate tiny phones. Can't type on it or hold it comfortably.
I agree. I work as a tailor, work with my hands, have done for over forty years, and I fumble with the thin phone to try to hold it just right so I don't accidentally press some button or other. Ergonomics dictates that a certain amount of thickness makes for much more convenient handling.
Honestly thin phones are uncomfortable to me, they're getting so thin it feels like holding a dull razor blade between your hands. A nice mildly thick phone is a lot more comfortable to use.
not to mention the iphone XR is thicc af. you'd think that they'd integrate aptx and aptx hd bluetooth codecs so their bluetooth quality is better. but nope, they just made the speakers on the phone better, because apparently people would rather hold their phone to their face to hear music than use headphones
What thin phone? Samsung put a glass back on our Galaxy S9+. It needs to be protected so we have a case on the phone. It's no longer thin.
Thin isn't important to me. Weight is.
No headphone Jack no sale
CORRECT
Ok jesus
s a m e
exactly what I say.
Rusty Shackleford
Pink Floyd?
Still need 1970 shit, muhawhahehahah
Some noobs still need wires, how funny!
So I have to buy a new set of earphones/headphones because Apple wanted a slightly thinner phone? My computer has 1/8" jacks. My integrated amplifier for my turntable has a 1/4" jack. All of my musical equipment have 1/8", 1/4" jack (or XLR) outputs. My phone and my mp3 player also both have 1/8" jack outputs. The beauty of the jack is that it is so universal and it is a tried and tested connection that has been perfectly fine for audiophiles and music producers for decades.
I simply wouldn't buy a phone that doesn't have a jack. Judging by the comments, this is not an uncommon view.
Plus wireless headphones requires charging vs headphones you just plug
Let's take the battery out next. It takes more space than every other Part of the smartphone!
Introducing Apple iBank.
Isham Trivedi introducing Apple iPaperweight
Removing the headphone jack was a terrible idea. Any defence of it should be shunned.
Shun everything! Then shun shunning.
Robbie Grant They just want money. There’s not really any defense. All of these companies including oneplus, google ext. just copy apple to get more money.
Sooner or later it might extinct and earphones just use usb c instead.
But for not the headphone jack is still an absolute must.
@@hryank33 I actually dobt that. Yeah I'm sure like half a decade from now, maybe, but, wired headphones are just more convient and arguably cheaper, plus you don't have to charge it. I think a hybrid would actually be better though. Think about a pair of ear buds with a separate headphone dongle that can switch devices near instantly.
S.J 'Squid' Blazkowicz I actually have a hybrid set of headphones, they have a two way wire that can be unplugged from the headphones to enable bluetooth mode, which esentially means I can go with either bluetooth or headphone jack connection depending on what I feel like...
1. So phone manufacturers that also make wireless headphones can make more money.
2. To copy Apple.
You just went full Apple there. Everybody knows, you never go full Apple.
3. To save a few bucks per phone, which can turn into a few million dollars in the long run.
@@Nemenis and apple copy some feature from other brand also, it's nothing new.
A true no brainer smartphone would be one you didn't have to care about wires, about where to plug what. The true concept Apple is always aspiring to get to is a 0 Port Phone. Just take off all of your hate and think about a future in which charging, listening to music and transferring your photos would not require a single cable!
Ultimately they are striving for this, although they will gain a lot of money from their dongles they will gain even more when their smartphone is the easiest to use ever.
@@philipcooper8297 cuz the apple was bitten
1:19
Don't most if not all desktop computers have headphone jacks (or several ways to connect audio), Bluetooth/WiFi is reserved for top end models?
If there was any truth to their "water proof excuse", why do we still have charging ports, speaker grills, microphones, and side buttons?
*thing works and millions are happy*
*No, we need to increase the price and cut millions of functional headphones/peripherals out of the tech loop so people will buy our branded, overpriced headphones*
And apple owns beats. People are that much of idiot that if beats sell a headphone sounding distorted like hell, they'd still buy it at $999 calling it an 'innovation'.
Oh wait...
Their monitor stand costs $999.
Hmm, lets see.
1. They need the space.
It was demonstrated that a headphone jack could be added to an iPhone 7,8, 10 by using a method that takes up MORE space than the port does if soldered to the board. Not a valid excuse.
2. they need waterproofing.
The headphone jack port is a cylindrical tube, with metal contacts (that can flex). This can (and has, a la the Galaxy S5 Sport in 2014, and current models have similar space for components) be waterproofed EASILY.
This isn't a valid excuse.
3. Analog quality is worse than digital
Actually no. analog just takes more bandwidth. That's it. It's a circuit issue. We have SOLVED this for a LONG time with a DAC built inside phones, that can easily handle CD quality audio (and with premium devices, FLAK quality output).
Interference isn't really an issue either. The signal is quite shielded if you have any decent headphones. But then again, that's not Apple's fault, that's your shitty headphones.
This isn't a valid excuse.
4. They wanted lighting royalties.
Oh, you bet. I've heard that royalties can EASILY be $5-$15 of EVERY lightning device sold. Every one. That's ABSURD. Obviously 3rd parties pass this cost onto you, so it's really just your money.
5. AirPods were their solution.
I'm still a bit torn, because they didn't make any BEATS branded headphones that had a lightning connector, so I'm unsure they would prefer their AirPods over beats they recently bought a few years ago.
But the idea is there, and I'm sure sales DID increase, so I believe this was definitely discussed before doing the decision to remove it.
So the main consensus is:
It wasn't due to waterproofing, space, or audio quality.
It was likely due to penny pinching, forcing lightning royalties (especially adapters for existing tech as that's cheaper for users), increasing AirPod sales, and making people more comfortable with wireless audio, such that HomePod and Siri could benefit.
It really was anti-consumer.
*All* headphones are analogue. Even Bluetooth ones.
The difference is where you put the DAC.
And you're less likely to get a quality DAC inside a pair of bluetooth headphones.
for point 5, they likely realized beats were just garbage sold for their name only, something they could easily do themselves with a smaller item that has lower material costs
@@illdeletethismusic
Oh they MOST certainly bought it for name and recognition and NOT for the tech.
They wanted to tie the apple brand to beats to seem "hip."
I still think they are going to push more DRM, get rid of anything analog and thus removing recording devices.
One reason is probably because they are expensive to repair the headphone jack, and it is something that is easily damaged . But that should make iphones cheaper, as they then don't have to worry about warranty repairs of headphone jacks.
No, this is a terrible trend and actually a reason I'm hanging on to my current phone
At least most budget phones still have the jack. Ironic, isn't it?
*why the headphone jack is going extinct*
Me, a musician: are you sure about that
It's amazing how every single change being made to smartphones in recent years is the exact opposite of what I actually want. I want thicker phones that are sturdier rather than a thin phone that breaks if you even look at it wrong, I want generous bezels so I can actually hold the phone while viewing it, rather than having to gingerly grasp the edge, I want physical buttons that I can press without having to look rather than digital buttons that don't work if the phone freezes or glitches out, and last but not least, I want a fucking headphone jack.
The only change in recent years I like is efforts to improve battery life, although often it is undermined by also adding more demanding software that completely negates the battery improvements.
"I want physical buttons that I can press without having to look rather than digital buttons that don't work if the phone freezes or glitches out"
To be fair in the situation where your phone freezes or glitches out even if you did have physical buttons the program that's supposed to be registering those button presses.... is frozen or glitched out... so as a result it doesn't matter whether your input is coming from a digital or physical button. It won't do anything either way. The buttons that do work even in those cases are handled by the OS and again, it doesn't matter if they're digital or physical. If the OS can still operate fine, the buttons will work. If it can't then you're shit out of luck either way and will have to boot the phone.
Not really. I have had numerous times on my iPhone 5s where the screen freezes and only the Home button can get out of it.
Stupid cheap phone companies making bad phones as always.
Yea - and removable batteries.
I have the HTC Bolt I wouldn't recommend it but the Samsung Galaxy s8 active is something I'd look into.
This is honestly just not a good argument. The headphone jack is still incredibly useful for many, very common applications, where Bluetooth is either clunky to set up or not available.
The space it takes up in the phone is negligible. They can argue "we want to make the most out of our phones" as much as they want but there are many, many other ways of doing that that DON'T require removing possibly one of the most basic and needed features in a MEDIA PLAYING DEVICE.
Especially considering that phones have gotten MUCH LARGER over the years - there's a shitton of space inside if you know how to optimize your shit!
Apple have started lot of bad phone trends in the recent years
Also a lot of bad trends in computers as well.
@• Angus • no
@• Angus • You are literally paying 400-700 for a apple at the back of your phone
@• Angus • most expensive stock phones are android. Look at the XR. Not even a 1080p display on a phone in 2018/2019. Ridiculous
@• Angus • BOO HOO IPHONE IS EXPENSIVE SO IT MUST BE THE BEST PHONE AND IM SHITTING ALL OVER OTHER OPINIONS
Wireless headphones *popular*
Low Latency: Am I a Joke to you?
There's no such thing as headphones that connect digitally because you still need a digital to analog converter to be able to listen to them. All Apple has done is make you buy the digital to analog converter separately instead of building one into the phone that you pay over a thousand dollars for. This isn't a matter of practicality or enhancing the user experience, it's just intense corporate greed.
I don’t think so Linus... I have not accepted this trend at all. This is the main reason why I haven’t upgraded my iPhone. I absolutely love the convenience of the headphone jack and probably won’t settle without it
I moved to an S9 plus from an iPhone 6s Plus because of this very reason. I prefer android now!
What convenience is there in wires? And if you must have them, isn't this the perfect place for an adapter.
@@Mornys but why get rid of the jack in the first place? it works, it's been standard for 60 years i dont see why manafacturers NEED to remove it
Because it's redundant. 3.5 mm jack has only one function, to output audio signal, which a USB-C port or whatever Apple uses can already do ~100000 times more efficiently. The 3.5 mm jack is just an extra hole, extra components and waste of space in a device that's supposed to be compact and efficient.
@@Mornys one component extra (plus wires) isnt an issue when phones are $1000 plus. also the space is wasted? the only real dimension that gets affected is the thickness of the device, and any device thinner than a 3.5mm jack is too small IMO
Audiophiles need a headphone jack. Apples omission of that is what converted me to Samsung.
Samsung and Apple both sucks.
@@pcrolandhu atleast samsung is usable with android os and a headphone jack.
Audiophiles have become a niche market. They'd rather buy a USB DAC.
I do not like samsung's UI :/ especially that android Hol theme reskin that they stick with on the their cheap phones....ugly blue and yellow and sharp corners all over the place
Frank Lin no
My goodness, I just want a phone that has replaceable batteries and a headphone jack
Yea i can feel you it's so freaking annoyingly frustrating at this point, respect to sony for keeping headphone jack on their flagships while making absolutely the best wireless earbuds in the market, so much respect for them.
easy solution: make your own battery banks, get rechargable high-capacity batteries for it (you can use AA'S but i'd suggest getting 18650's since they hold so much more battery life) and then get a LG/Sony phone or even a motorola.
Whats next? Laptops losing the jack? Desktop PC's ? Damn. Some changes ARE for the worst -_-
Lmao, laptop and PC manufacturers aren’t stupid enough to follow Apple’s dumb trends.
Ssssshh! Don't give them any ideas!
Nope, a lot of people use laptops for music production so they need minimal delay time and good audio, that being said I doubt they will remove the jack from laptops, not only that but laptops don’t need to be water resistant.
Yeah PC isn’t losing it anytime soon.
I think they'll lose a VGA port before the headphone jack
Would gladly trade waterproofing for a headphone jack and easy battery replacement.
SnowySkies you're dumb af
@SnowySkies It's cheaper and easier to be able to replace your own battery and less hassles with a regular headphone jack.
@SnowySkies i feel sorry for your parents
@@DharMahn_ why are we insulting them for believing that not having a headphone jack makes the battery easier to remove.
I don't see the appeal of water resistant phones - just don't drop your fucking phone in water.
Apple can't find the space to put the jack but that man from strange parts can??????
@justsomeguy and iPhone x my s9 has ip68 iPhone x has ip67
Redmi
@Mich 04
If i want to move on to iPhone I'd rather buy iPhone 6 instead
@@HyperVanilo don't risk the bend gate
@@HyperVanilo get a 6s
Let's add a function to unlock your phone with facial recognition, so let's add a new chip to do this job instead of the headphone jack and replace the audio with the already present bluetooth.
- Why did you remove my headphone jack?
- Because you're too dumb to remember a password.
Soryr, but no. There's no legitimate reason. Every smartphone manufacturer before this nonsense somehow found it in themselves to put a headphone jack in there. "Oh but it's easier to make waterproof". So what? Don't drop your phone in the toilet, or, better yet, just waterproof the damn headphone jack like everybody else.
It's bad enough that we can't get a phone with decent bezels or a removable battery anymore, but this is getting just too stupid. What, do we have to buy "vintage" smartphones now if we want basic functionality?
The "legitimate" reason is to wean us off an old, dying standard and push for a newer one.
Ahh, just like New Coke!
@@isodoubIet oh yeah New Coke. Remember when they trashed the old coke recipe for no good reason and people complained? Yeah basically what's going on here.
@@FrankyboyLegend Frank Lin wow you drank the Kool aid huh? "Old" doesn't mean bad and the only reason it's "dying" is because Apple said so and the fanboys have followed suit and the companies see them gobble this crap up so they are now capitalizing on these people's ignorance and unwillingness to do anything about it.
Headphone jacks are on literally any piece of tech that outputs audio and isn't a Bluetooth only device. You'll find them on radios, cars, desktop computers, laptops, studio audio equipment, tablets and up until recently phones, I'm pretty certain you will not see the headphone jack disappear from a computer because it's "old". It's fine if you don't use any headphone jack at all but don't act like your experience is everyone else's. In the end this is detrimental to consumers like you and me,
you're getting less features and low quality replacements for a higher cost.
@@HatsOnJohn I don't necessarily agree with them, but that is the business model manufacturers have to push for new technology. The problem was with finding a unified standard for USB type C which phone manufacturers failed to do so. Call them shills or whatever but I remember when MKBHD, Linus and others were less happy about it, now there's almost no complaining when a new phone has no headphone jack. Fanboys will remain fanboys, some longtime users were angry when HTC, Sony and more recently OnePlus removed the jack, but eventually they accepted it.
I bought the Note 9 expecting to still use the headphone jack but every day I use it less and less. It's good for some serious audiophile music listening, but for casual music streaming, AAC, AptX and LDAC are more than good enough. The latency was awful for games, but that was due to badly optimized software and has been improved greatly with the Android Pie update. Unless you really care about that SLIGHT difference in competitive gaming, it isn't the end of the world. Having to charge is an inconvenience at first but many Bluetooth headphones have either batteries or charging cases that allow them to last longer than a day. I'm more annoyed by the fact that many manufacturers are still using microUSB on their Bluetooth headphones for charging.
headphone jack > water resistance
battery life > anorexic thinness
first one is not true. second one partially true.
Or you can get a Galaxy S9/+/Note 9 and have everything.
@@yotoprules9361
yo whats up dude
Headphone jacks dont harm water resistance anyway. Its a ridiculously simple connector, which makes it incredibly easy to waterproof.
Second part is definitely true. I'd much rather have 5000mah and a couple more mm than a couple less mm and only have 2700mah.
But my phone has 5000mah and a headphone jack and is unofficially waterproof down to a meter. Also cost about 900€ less than your average current gen iphone
@@yotoprules9361 No, it's all true. Claiming otherwise is vanity, not practicality.
If people stopped buying phones without a headphone jack this tread would soon stop.
People are idiots.
They already did, few people buy a phone with no headphone jack.
That's never happening
But they won't. They will all que up a week before so they can be cool and say they have the new iPhone with their Bluetooth headphones. So fucking anoing. Rant over.
@@nsn27 iPhones have a lower and lower market share
Also, Apple isn't reporting iPhone sales numbers any more.
You are missing the point of having a jack, you don't need to charge your headphones like your mobile.