I agree but the difference is that Genshin was an open world and this is not but Mihoyi is treating it the same with updates spread out so far. Just think about it, we will not get a new world or main story until a whole year. Thats lame
I played on day 1 and heck no we have the entire Mondstadt and Liyue to explore until 100% and hundreds of culus to pick without any compasses. world quests are also longer than HSR's
From what I remember we were level gated quite abit but less time gated in a sense. I think having more exploration helped make it feel like there was more stuff to do too
imagine he thinks, forgoten hall is completed, but show only first Memory part. This person will be suprised, there is also Memory of chaos to complete.
@@reaganlaut9916 So, why not diversify and create content with one of the other dozens of games that are released every year??? I mean this as a genuine question. I've never understood why people complain about lack of content in games that are updated frequently when they can literally just go play something else for a week or so and there are countless options.
Quality > quantity. I don't want them to rush anything and let them come out half-cooked. I'd rather wait longer for things to come out more fleshed out than rush through more content just to get bored again.
I don't want Inazuma 2: Electric boogaloo, so I think it's better that they take their time, plus, they hinted the event of fights in the underworld before it came out (the character that sets up the fightst tell you there's going to be a big tournament), Idk if there's other hints for future events but that was cool to notice.
The ‘job’ and a ‘week and half’ was probably an exaggeration, you can’t even skip story quests and dialogues, so no way would you actually finish it in a week unless you wanted to die from lack of sleep and exhaustion. Take it from me who has all the time in the world but has 5 pending story quests, 20 unfinished world quests, and 4 incomplete events.
When was Rome not Rome and when did not Rome become Rome… aka this phrase literally needs us to ignore that and also like cherry pick and be selective if when historical time line… wise man might not actually say that as he’d see the issue an gnaw with the saying.. also it ignores POPULATION makes the “nation” aka the second a ppl established a territory and settle they established/built on day one.. now a set this where do we draw the line of built… when is and isn’t it enough to be considered built? 🤔 so underneath that “wise” saying it’s objectively untrue.. 😂 Rome was officially established when the tribe of ppl settled and today rome still builds.. it never stopped.. also back to the first settlers that settled on HILLS an quickly erected their homes? do they not count.. ? Objectively literally could be built in a day then simply progress as it is to this day.. 😂 u understand the quote is a damn insult to the ppl at all periods before the wut the quote considers “built” and again wut about afterwards..? insult to them too tbh.. again who decides wut is “built” and what isn’t “built” most quotes don’t make sense if u compare then to reality.. still only find scientists making actual good quotes.. not only both romantic by man sense under the hood.. 😂 in short “aye don’t think about it just accept it.. cause it sounds good” Also is Rome today built or not built? 🤔 absolutely dumb quote that requires us to ignore so many things until it makes sense.. 😂💀
to be honest, i finished the story in a month, there were so many other side quests to do and activities, and its literally a fresh NEW game, the animations, effects and alot of other things are new and renewed so i hope they take their time Quality > Quantity
When it comes to Honkai vs Genshin, I think Honkais quality is a hundred times better while Genshin focuses seemingly more on quantity and being mihoyos cash cow which they shit out the same content over and over for money and gacha pulls. I do hope star rail which mihoyo is more passionate about, can keep up its streak with quality and to not go down the Genshin route
@@mat7258 you cannot make a game like genshin without passion, this is such an insult toward game designers/artists/devs and everyone who helped in creating the game. There is so much research and details going into the design and story. Just bc it's not fun for you, doesnt mean it's not fun for any other people and that it's not a passion project. Hsr on the other hand is disappointing, they basically copy genshin system minus the open world.
@@kvthmluv I think you misunderstand how Mihoyo actually feels about their games... Yes you probably feel genshin is better and HSR isnt, but Mihoyo feels the opposite way :/
@@mat7258 and i did not state anyway that genshin is better. I just prefer genshin characters, the games are literally the same, that's why it's baffled me how yall are comparing which one is better when they are both the same game with different combat/story. They even have the same concept where they use irl countries as reference for each planet. I said hsr is disappointing bc they did not make a whole new game, rather they just copy genshin system, you literally can convert hsr stuff to genshin stuff 1:1.
People are complaining about “lack of content” but they grinded at least a month worth of content in a week💀 I’m not part of the dev team but I don’t think they planned for no life’s to grind every last bit of content the game has in the first week… And people talk about how he only plays 3 hours a day but if you take your time with the game not rushing threw everything it can take a month to complete. I’m not saying to listen to all the dialogue as I skipped all that but I still managed to make the game last a month with story and everything by just taking my time with the game.
People blow this "rushing" out of proportions, I work normal 8h + general chores and commute, I played ~1h-2h daily and still finished almost everything before Jing's banner started
You don't need to no life brother. I work a full time job too, I come home and play for like 3 hours a day after dinner and stuff and I cleared the content in 10 days, only things left are SU 6 and Forgotten halls but that's down to skill and lack of chars
"i dont think they planned for no life's to grind" then wtf are they doing making gacha games no? Like I've played hundreds of games and hoyoverse games is the worst when it comes to pacing, i have quit genshin for like 3 months and i catched up to everything within a few days for just like 2-3 hours a day, like wtf do you think games like epic seven implement huge difficulty jumps, and lots of side content for if not for the one that plays the game for 10 hours a day. There is literally a guide on how to pace your game progression and they still fail despite being a multi billiondollar company, adding multiple side content like raids, pvp, etc wouldnt take much time if they actually think about the game livelihood itself
LMAOOOO the way this short aged like milk. 8 months later and this game has WAY more endgame content than genshin ever could 💀💀💀 yall enjoy that abyss floor 12 for the next 10 years
Yes like there’s so many special events, I keep getting a bunch of texts for missions in the game, there’s daily and weekly training and the simulated universe like I am STRESSED and I’ve been playing for only two weeks so I guess that makes sense 😂
That is because Star Rail has a lot of *hidden* quests and storylines. They don't show up in your missions, you just have to pay attention and talk to every NPC you come across often.
im actually overwhelmed with the amount of stuff i can do. i play for abt 2 hours every couple of days when i feel like it and i feel like theres sm content. i started playing in abt the middle of may by the way
Exactly, I started playing the game as soon as it launched and the servers went up and it’s been hella stuff to do…so much stuff that it’s overwhelming but I never get bored. 😂
@user-br1nl6qr2p Well I've been playing casually for months and still have stuff to do :) I don't play every day because I have enough other things to do. I love exploring in games so most of the time all I do is just running around but I enjoy it so that's all that matters to me.
@@emmanuelmercene The people who are complaining are content creators, no new content, no good ideas for videos leads to lack of views. It's just business things for them honestly. It's a race to who can release the first tutorials, damage records etc etc.
My friend works full-time, reads every fucking dialouge and explores the whole planet before going onto the next. And finished in about 1 week and a half, so no offense but it is you who is kinda slow or either extremely enjoying the game at its fullest.
@@crowing3886%100. And him saying genshit had more content on release is completely false too. On release the game had only mondstadt (no dragonspine) and liyue (no chasm) the game also had no events and the first event in the game was the most notorious unfair bs event in the entire game which caused them to never ever make that event again.
@@ardaoguzhan8181 It did have a bit more content than Star Rail just by being open-world. Yes, there was no Chasm or Dragonspine, but you still could explore Liyue and Mondstadt as a form of content.
Genshin definitely timegated us at release, just in a different way. The story was locked by AR more often and in larger increments than HSR is, and there were significantly less ways to grind exp than HSR has now. It’s not that Genshin didn’t timegate us, HSR is just doing it differently.
I played like two hours of Genshin at release and then put it off cause I had other things going on, I'm only going back to it now after putting in a lot of hours into HSR and honestly my biggest complaint against Genshin right now is how often the main quest will just be stopped until you hit a specific AR. The last quest I did was the one where Venti plays the harp to try and pacify the dragon, I'm AR 13 right now and I need AR 18 for the next story quest. I need five more ranks, not one or two, but five ranks that I'll need to fuck around the map to get.
@@nisnasti just explore the map . I just grind the exp in the map mostly in Liyue and Monstadt. I don't want to ascend the AR i still save around 14k exp. Just explore more map to have more exp.
They literally had two nations of world quests and explore content at release on top of the archon quests for each nation. Star Rail pales in comparison. You log on for half the time and still run through all of the games content more quickly for SR.
What a cl0wn, let me jog your memory a lil bit. Genshin 1.1 we got continuation of archon story, 1.2 dragon spine, 1.3 lantern rite. What we get at star rail 1.1 ? Filler 🤡🤡
I just feel like we had more to do in Genshin for being it an open world, HSR is a completely different from Genshin, so idk why people like to compare both of them?
This is exactly why I quit genshin impact. It was hella time consuming and sadly I couldn't play it regularly due to my studies and house work like cooking etc.... But in Honkai star rail I took my sweet time there without rushing anything and I could play it regularly, since it doesn't consume much of my time. Ngl I'm having so much fun with it more than genshin.
@@ladyluck6053 I agree with this. As a student, I almost have zero time to play Genshin because one quest lasts like 2-3 hours (even the Act V Sumeru took like 4-5 hours if you didn't skip the dialogue). It's maybe a good thing for a full-time gamer/content creator, but not for me. At the end of the day, it's just about your preferences and how much time you're spending on a game.
@@ladyluck6053 uhh..i am a student myself and i myself only play the game only for 1-2 hours but i dont think so its time consuming i foundit very fun and i also have a relief that theres so much content to do(i havent even started doing the wanderer quest and i have so many world quests in my inventory) I
Fr, personally i quit Genshin cuz they added *TOO MUCH* content and i couldn't follow it I think it's better to not have a lot of content at first, and getting it step by step, than having too much content and spending all of your time in it and trying to follow the story, the events, the new worlds and characters coming out ect... (Like you said, it's time consuming) It scared me when i saw that Hoyoverse has already put like ≈15 new characters and 2 new worlds since i quitted genshin (≈ 1-2 years ago)
I honestly think it's loaded with content for a new gacha game. Feel like everyone that complains forgets that this is a gacha game that has scheduled updates for the next couple years
can't agree more. Compare doing daily in Genshin with HKS, Genshin takes too much time for me since there are few days I can play for only 30 mins because I still have work to do 😢 then there is no time for me to catch up with new events and stories in Genshin so that's why I just quit to take a rest 🥲
As someone who plays less than an hour a day... I actually kind of agree with the opinion of lack of content.... I'm pretty much TL 60, and the only real thing I'm missing to complete is the memory of chaos. I've done all the story/side stories stuff (the main story and side missions of this game is legit the best part IMO), I have one entire team basically fully built (currently building my second team)... At the pace I'm going, I'm pretty sure I would have completed everything in like a month... And I highly doubt hoyoverse is planning on adding late game content, or story content, or any thing that has more than a couple of hours of gameplay by then. Hopefully I'm wrong and they manage to release a banger patch next time, cause I really like HSR
as someone who is a completionist (170+ achievments and ive BARELY touched xianzhou luofu) this is actually a win for me LMAO i get to take my time reading every dialogue and explore every nook and cranny and theres still a storyline ahead for me to look forward to.
Same. I don't have that much time but I explore the game slowly and read every dialogue. Honestly based on how much progress I make and how much time I spend on just running around, I'd say with the content we have *now* it will last me at least 2 more months minimum 😂 Rushing through the entire game and then complaining... They don't play for the game itself but instead probably just because it was really popular from the very start or something. Playing a game is supposed to be fun, that's why we do it. How can you even enjoy the game when you're constantly rushing through everything?
yes!! I’m the kind of player that doesn’t progress until i’ve seen everything there is to see or get all the stars and rewards. Currently at stage 14 of forgotten hall only and taking my time with simulated universe, saving up stellar jade for luocha because i’m f2p
Exactly! These are the same people who skip dialogue and just play. Why even bother to play a game with a lot of lore?? I mean I already took in all of the content HSR had for now but I thoroughly went through every single dialogue of the game, even the SU’s events and books.
Same. They clearly had so much fun writing the dialogue in this game and they gave you so many places to find it. Have you met the talking plant or experienced the trash can soap opera?
I actually find this set up to work with my schedule. I have work in the morning and only get to play the game at night, and I can't play for too long since I still have chores and work the following day. So i would play for at least 2-3 hours to finish daily missions and then get ready for bed. I have already reached tl.50 and I am steadily leveling all my avatars to level 70.😅
That’s how I play too it makes it less stressful to finish everything. I just use my resin do my dailies and log out once my characters are strong I can attempt MoC
I think genshin and star rail are really designed for people who really work like Genshin average player age range is 35 years old iirc so ye intended for people who work, who earn money and those who have the means to spend money on the game
It never was right to begin with People like this due were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault for not having a life Lvl 50 in a week? Geez I've been playing for three months and I just got to lvl, 46
It never was right to begin with People like this due were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault.
Genshin has a similar amount of content at release as star rail. The issue is that Genshin is an Open World Action Adventure game and HSR is a Turn Based RPG. Genshin with the fact you have to actually travel everywhere and more activly participate in combat makes its feel like it has way more content than it actually does. But if you actually sat down and played Genshin and did the release content you will literally finish in maybe 4 days. Thats just pure content including anemo and geoocculi collection. People forget the Liyue MSQ stopped right after you meet Ganyu the first time. After that all you have to do is run around, and do puzzles which Genshin has because its an exploration game.
I just want to say that its rare to see ppl who understand what Openworld game here lol, you know, most of this community just think "collecting item and exploring is unnecessay and tedious, big map also bad" while literally they playing Openworld game lol🤣
@@ZilverEchos i dint exactly blame them, as in the last 6 or 7 years there's been an uptick in open world games, and lot of them aren't that good, which has burned people out on them, it kinda like how the movie industry has slowly made normal zombies so prevalent nobody wants to see YET another Zombie movie.
@@ZilverEchosOpen world should motivate you to explore, which Genshin didn't. There was very few enemies, almost no interesting unique location (they proper up first ruins ground so much,bbut didn't even made them into a dungeon to explore), and no interesting or even just worthy rewards (no one needs a chest with underlevel piece gear in it).
@@rinslittlesheepling1652 >To be clear the reason you end up having to explore in Genshin is due to the need to gather mats to upgrade your characters, gathering oculi, and completing quests, especially the ones not marked on the map.
No need to be a whale to clear the whole game, the moc is always cleared by some people with only free 4 stars, there's also people who cleared the whole simulated universe with those free 4 stars
It never was right to begin with People like this dude were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault. I mean Lvl 50 in a week?, I've been playing for 3 months and I just got to lvl 46
It never was right to begin with People like this dude were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault. I mean Lvl 50 in a week?, I've been playing for 3 months and I just got to lvl 46
Meanwhile...everyone struggles to fully explore the Sumeru Rainforests & Deserts...plus 100% completion of the Aranara Quests, Jeht's Story, & the Pari Sorush World Quests.
I feel like Genshin quests can honestly be super lazy, unmotivated, uninspired, sloppy, and just boring and tedious. I love Genshin a lot, but lately these side quests like the Aranara quests are VERY boring to play and chore some. However, the stories behind them, the lore and the character emotions/development is amazing
@@mat7258 The Aranara was lazy at times and decent at times, but the desert quests were much better, especially with newer and stronger enemies, like the special eremites and consecrated beasts.
Not struggling, People just doesn't really have any motivation to explore stuff, there's only 1 endgame content and these Quests are just too boring it's pretty much 90% dialogue, 5% puzzle and 5% actual gameplay, Imo despite the game having a very beautiful World, Good music/ost and etc, the world just feels a bit empty tbh
Ugh, this is the complaint for almost every gacha game at launch that its a stupid complaint at this point. Its like complaining about polluted air when you choose to live in a metropolitan city.
Rly dumb also when you consider its a free game with scheduled updates that expand the content over periods of time. In 2~ years new ppl will start saying that there is a ton to do and that its overwhelming.
@@evilmiyoho6742 No. The complaint is the one being addressed not whether or not other gacha games have more "endgame content", complaining that a gacha game lacks content is an invalid critiscism. Content varies, for some its the endgame while others include the lore or just farming in general. It becomes a stupid critiscism because saying that a gacha game lacks content is tantamount to saying that there are no other elements to the game. I highly doubt that this guy has 100% everything in the game by reading all lore books and finding all the references within the game as well as probably secret missions within the game. So no, the game has content, its whether or not its good content is the valid critiscism.
Impossible, you can't take the story slow, just playing it normally you would finish it in a week, you probably havent touched the main story for weeks now so you claim you are talking it "slow" when in reality you are straight up not touching it
@@superbeta1716imagine bossing on how u play the game, good for u if u can finish it in one sitting … not everyone is like u that will play the game non stop 😭😭 other have this thing called “having an actual life outside 😊”
@@Jodariel. ok guess I messed this up but what I was meant to say is: I was taking my sweet time to complete the story. Ps: you know when you were too low ar to progress the story so you had to grind?? This sucked for me.
Since I've done every quest, I'm starting to begin maxing out every character's level as well as their traces. Afterwards, I'll try to get each of the characters the best relics I can get.
For anyone curious on specifics of how to optimally raise a character and get then as usable as quickly as possible, here's how: Levels to 80 1st (For DPS. For supports 70/80) LC to a minimum of 60 Traces to +6/7/8 then Relics until you reach a point where the only improvements are getting perfect pieces That setup gets your characters to a usable state for MoC 10+ content as soon as possible. Hope it helps!
Well, Genshin wasn’t this bad because open world exploration. Also, they didn’t do as many events this patch as they will be in the future, so there’s that
Genshin WAS as bad as this, and I’d say it was arguably worse. 1.0 Genshin had only 1 actual content event, was FAR less polished, heavily level-gated you, and was far less generous with every aspect of the game (e.g. free wishes, resin, materials.) The only thing Genshin had over HSR is open world exploration. It’s very clear who didn’t actually remember 1.0 Genshin and who did.
@@RayGunnMK2 still with exploration you had stuff to do I remember It because between one archon quest and the other you HAD to explore to unlock it basically
I do have to say tho, it's not a lack of content it's that people rush things too much, the games hoyo makes aren't meant to be rushed through, why do u think they planned genshin to last smthn like 10 years? You're meant to spend 2 hours at best a day yet I've seen people spend 16 hours and then complain the game doesn't have enough content despite the game having been out for only a month. Also genshin is an open world game so u can do much more compared to HSR.
I’ve only spent ~2-3 hours a day for 2 weeks and then took a week break and I’m nearly tb 50, it doesn’t take long to do things granted the reason I might stop playing is it took me 150 pulls to get jing yuan and I’ve made 2 alt accounts only for the same result if I don’t end up getting any luck on silver wolf who I really need I might just not play anymore other than major updates
@@a1enigma862 i rushed like shit but that's fine cuz I got other stuff to do, Like I'm tb 57. I haven't found the game to be too specific charachter reliant, I've completed world 6 difficulty 2 in SU with a good fire MC, barely ok Gepard and Natasha and a bad Serval (lvl 60, light cone lvl 40, leftover artifacts and traces expected from a lvl 40 character).
HARD DISAGREE! Genshin for first 6 months after LAUNCH was dryer then a desert. Literally nothing to do except collect mints and berries and play time gated events
Wait for new planet after a year in HSR :pepelaugh: Same old nothing to do boring shit + since its not open world, staring at empty environment make it even more boring compare to genshin when sightseeing is more prevalent
@@aurumlovelyheart9532 I don't think getting to a new planet/place will take a full year like in Genshin. It'll probably took place after 3-4 patches, i hope lol.
It never was right to begin with People like this dude were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault. I mean Lvl 50 in a week?, I've been playing for 3 months and I just got to lvl 46
Yeh I remember that fkin deer forced me to finally stop and actually build my team 🤣 til then I’d just been idling along with whatever relics I happened to pick up.
@@TheCrazyCapMasterIf I may, I would like to ask for some words of motivation. I am currently stuck at that giant lady (Phantylia or smth) and although I do want to progress further in the story, I don’t know if I should invest into building team or just wait for luck 😐
@@ЕвгенияОнежская I defeated Phantylia on the first attempt using Preservation MC, Jing Yuan without his LC, 4-star Dan Heng, and Luocha. But based on how the fight went I could’ve done it with Natasha instead if I needed to. You should be able to handle Phantylia by leveling your whole team to at least 70, and getting some solid levels on their relics. It’s definitely doable with whatever you have on hand, provided you use characters with the right elements (I’ve forgotten what those are but it probably matches the team i used to some extent). Preservation MC built for pure defense is a must if you don’t have Gepard, as if you can’t shield the whole team you’ll need Phantylia to focus on him and waste her attacks. Also I think you get a trial Jing Yuan for the boss fight, keep him on the other end of the team from MC as he needs to stay alive.
Exactly. Not to mention that with Hoyo's release tactics and schedule, expecting the Genshin-levels of content in Star Rail, is just delusional. Especially after just one month...
Indeed. I can bet atleast 98% of the people who say "they're done with all content" and "there's nothing left in this game" have never done things like going through all the data bank records, ascension drop descriptions, character lines in profile and other voicelines, etc
Honestly, I think this is good for us, we don't have to devote ourselves to the game. It's play, then take a break, then come back. It reminds me of gaming in the early 2000s
People are rushing way more than they think they are. There was this huge "I gotta get to blah blah blah" point that so many people were on in that first week. I didn't rush, I took my time, and it took me WAY longer than a week to get to TB50+. Like, a lot closer to a month, or more. I'm not shocked people were "dissapointed" with the amount of content because they could have dumped a bunch more content and people would still be this way. I think folks who rolled on Seele also sped through more of the content than those of us who sat on our resources for at least one banner, since we had to grind just a little more to get to the end of the game. I really can't buy that all those people who were "done in a week" did all the repeatable puzzles, found all the little side quests, and did all the other content that you can do in this game. FH, SI, and the main story do not constitute "All the content in the game".
Fr ive been playing since release and im at tl 37 because im slowly doing the events and quests and ive barely spent any jades on any banners since i main qq
Im a little late but I actually hope they keep this pace of content for the foreseeable future. Even when I was playing genshin everyday, I got burnt out very quickly and began to fall behind on quests because there was just too much. If you dont rush I think HSR is actually really enjoyable and even better than genshin tbh
This is why people should stop rushing the games and playing for an absurd amount of time each day. You cant just speedrun the game then complain there's no content to complete. They're slowly releasing stuff, but also they're trying to actually work on the next story quests and other content to complete for us in the future. They cant just enter them into the game with the snap of a finger. I've been pacing myself since starting the gamr a month ago, and i just finished story quests at Tl 47. I still have a lot of missions and side quests though, and I havent rushed to complete the forgotten hall or simulated universe.
Well the problem with speeding through the content is that technically you are playing the amount of time required to complete it. The less amount of days it takes to complete only makes it take longer for you to wait for the next update. Me personally I don't have any issues grinding each day so I always get value even after all content available is cleared. Than again I have significantly more patience than certain content creators.
@@IveBeenWithBrumaThe issue is that you can't even grind... In ARPGs you can overcap some shit with skill, in turn based game it's just pure maths and because of time gating and the fact that we need WEEKS to get more power to beat those stats check boss is bad Even in SU, while we could try hard, we are also time gated because we need equilibrium lvl to acces harder difficulty, it could at least have been like MoC, accessible but no doable I'm patient, I played many gacha, but the grind was real, here, it's only 15mn a day
@@Nakirinned It's a trend for basically every new gacha game lol, people get hyped pre-release, then on release they play 8 hours a day, then cry that they ran out of content within a week 😂
My brother in Christ. Content aside, the first couple months of Genshin you only had 120 resin cap and NO CONDENSED RESIN 😭… it wasn’t a timegate it was a The Great Wall of Time.
yep, people need to stop comparing Genshin and HSR especially on content matter. it's like comparing what baby can do and what an adult can do in daily life.
Ikr ? I hate it when people talk when it seems they haven't even played genshin when it just released. I remember being bored because I had no quests until they added Inazuma and now there's so much to the point I'll feel like I'll never get them all done and just stopped playing for a while xD
OML FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT. even though I've finished all of HSR's content I still do missions daily in contrast to genshin (which I haven't played consistently for months) because the content amount is way too overwhelming and even doing the 4 daily quests are tiring and boring. Having a game that is more relaxed in releasing content is kind of nice, plus it is just over a month old
Genshin did time-gate us. We were stuck in Mondstat for an entire patch until Liyue and some of the Liyue archon quest came out in 1.1. Meanwhile, starrail gave us 3 maps, 2 main storyline quests and part of the third main storyline quest in the first patch
Actually, Liyue was available at release. The patch of 1.1 introduced tartaglia, zhongli, diona and xinyan with a tartaglia boss and the last main quest for liyue.
@@MarioRoyale45 How was it available at release, when it was literally added a month after the Game's 1.0 launch. Genshin launched on October 20th. Liyue was added on September 26th.
@@TheCursedCat1927 Look it up on google. Genshin released globally on the 27th or 28th of September (depending on your time zone). Update 1.1 came out on the 11th of November which added what I said above. Liyue was already included in 1.0 since the September 28th release.
It took me around 1 month to finish the main story even though I was actually trying to rush things in order to catch up. If you somehow finished all of the main story in 1 week, start actually reading the dialogue. The lore can be entertaining and it takes much longer to complete everything if you read it.
Who knows lmao. I don't understand how he got TL 50 in a week.. Like there's no way you can actually pay attention to things while speeding through that fast. I only just arrived at Xianzhou after like 30 hours in the game😂
i’m honestly trying to keep my playing to a minimum bc i Love the style and vibe and the mc’s integration into the story feels better than genshin but i’m doing sort of a couple hours a day and i’m honestly waiting for kafka to come out
@𝖕𝖆𝖎𝖓𝖋𝖚𝖑𝖑𝖞𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖌 It's the type of content. For eg. Livestreamers can take much longer because they are interacting and entertaining and audience while playing, and they don't skip dialogues usually - all that time spent listening and reading, sidetracking draws it out. Inspect just about any JP vtuber that plays HSR and their "Lives" playlist and you'll see what I mean. People like this bloke here, are video makers. They don't need to show you if they understood the game's story. They just need to gather and test only the necessary information for their topics, and then churn out the flavour of the day. They are driven to make comparisons, and to that end, they must reach current "end game" to see where things lie.
Working a full time job you get 5-6 hours to get life situated and find time to relax. Hsr is perfect for people like this. I don't feel behind and can play and enjoy the game at my own pace. I want to try genshin impact but I just don't have the time to start anything new.
Don’t start Genshin. I’m a full time student and it feels like you can never keep up. The artifact system is trash and your characters will never feel usable because of that. Literally, the game was login and spend all the daily energy on the artifact system, get trash artifacts, and log out 💀. I’d recommend it if you’re ok with that, but it’s a huge game nonetheless. I was originally a honkai impact 3rd player, so the story in Genshin feels a bit childish in comparison. Maybe it just needs more time, but still those are my thoughts.
Please, i recommend Genshin, its not a PVP game, you can take time to grind and do the quest, log in just for some exploration and music.People do only think about the gacha and artifact system which every gacha is also worse the same. Its a beautiful game exclude the community. You can just login for 1-2 hours a day and play it slowly!
@@gigi4498 For a student like me, I absolutely agree. Genshin is time-consuming, and my characters eventually getting overwhelmed as the enemies are getting stronger, and I have no time grinding for artifacts because I go to school for 8 hours, not to mention homework. To be fair, it all comes down to whichever game you prefer, and whether you're willing to spend most of your time into that game. HI3rd though, I'm currently at Chapter VII. I decided to not rush the story because the same reason, I'm a student. Liking it so far not gonna lie.
Genshin is kind of fun if you follow from the beginning but starting now where there's tons of things to do it's simply too much. There's also a chance you can't follow latest event because the characters might be locked to certain quests, which is stupid btw, and the story is not even worth investing your time over.
Just cause they try to speedrun shit and not take their time to have fun doesn't mean its lacking in content. It JUST came out. Why do people expect a fully done game when it was never advertised as such??
@@rhezer The game isn't "fully done" though. A playable game that's in development exists, and that's what all of Hoyoverse's games are. Profitable as they are, people still complain because it's in development
that’s on you you going through everything so fast me personally i’m taking my time and i’m chilling plus genshin is exactly like this too lol especially at release which yes i was there since day 1
We already comparing a legit OPEN WORLD game with TURN BASED game, Of course Open world will have longer content because most of the time you have to explore the entire map
Well, it's the usual stuff. Before it was Honkai Impact vs Genshin Impact, now it's Honkai Star Rail vs Genshin Impact. It's a different type of game, so the time spent are different.
Although HI3rd, Genshin, and HSR do have some similiarities, but in terms of combat and exploration, all of them differs. HI3 do have an open-world mode, while Genshin IS the main genre. This leaves HSR as a semi-open world game, since there's still something to explore (even hidden quests/achievements), but not as much as Genshin. And combat-wise, HI3 offers hack n' slash, while Genshin is more like how you utilize your team-comp for a proper damage output (especially from elemental reactions), and HSR is turn-based combat.
Yes, people will always complain whatever the case: • Hoyo releases quite amount of content -> lack of content • Hoyo releases a lot of content/areas to explore -> too much content
this is why it’s better to take the time to enjoy the game and not rush it because you’ll regret it within’ the first week and the only person you can blame is yourself and NOT the developers it isn’t their job to predict how fast you’ll finish their game and of course they will come out with lots of new stuff it’s only the early stages of the game and there’s of course so much more to come just like in genshin
> Devs bake time-gated, resource-dependent progression systems into their games that scale to player level, literally incentivizing players to rush through content > "Don't blame the devs it's not their job to balance player progression" 🤡 I agree that rushing through the content is generally a bad idea but let's not pretend that Hoyoverse's game progression systems aren't diametrically opposed to their development cycle, or that they're blameless for designing such progression systems. It's largely a problem of their own making.
@@warehouse3304 Thank you for your engaging and insightful counter-argument. /s First off, I said that I agree that rushing through games is generally a bad idea, but that doesn't absolve developers of their ability/responsibility to guide player progression through internal systems. Secondly, I'm AR60 on Genshin and TL58 on Star Rail so I understand plenty well how these games work. The resin/energy reward systems scale to world level, which means that you objectively get the most value out of your resin/energy at higher world levels. Resin/energy being time gated further incentivizes players to squeeze the most value out of whatever resin/energy they have available. As it stands, Hoyoverse has tied a reward system that benefits from rushing content directly to content that shouldn't be rushed through. It's objectively poor design. If they decoupled resin/energy scaling from world level, decoupled world level from AR/TL, and/or decoupled quest/exploration progression from AR/TL, then they wouldn't have this conflict in progression systems. These are overly simplistic solutions of course, there would need to be some core redesigns for a proper fix, but my point is that it's not some nebulous problem that can't be identified and solved - The problem is fairly obvious and there's a million other ways to build progression systems that are more condusive to the intended player experience. The notion that the devs are somehow blameless in predicting and influencing player progression is absurd.
Its also our fault we speedrun it, hence no more content. BUT simulated universe has parts and theres memory of chaos, So not 100% dry but more of cant pass those stages currently.
Good thing about the wait is the daily missions to get more stuff to pull for your favorite characters, I actually skip Silver Wolf and the guy before her because I don't have resources to pull for them after what I did with Seele, so I'm really glad that Mihoyo isn't rushing the game so that I can save to pull for a character that is interesting for me, also I know that the devs are also working on Honkai Impact and Genshin Impact and that they actually got a lot of work to do
I'm leaving Genshin bc it doesn't appreciate my time like Honkai does😭 I'll always be a Genshin girlie but omg if I have to farm the same monster one more time I will lose my mind (I've spent more time grinding for leveling up my characters than actually doing archon quests and side quests)
Now the game is overflowing with content, bro just spoke too early the game was 1 months old. Not to mention that more content like gold and gears can still be added to simulated universe. Bro thought it would be like genshin😭😭😭 genshin could never
HOW???? You guys are just insane bro, I don't even have a job and I still could never keep up with you. When I finish the story they will have released at least 2 more seasons
I have a part time job, and a toddler, I played this game for an hour to 2 hours every other day and I still felt like I ran out of content very quickly. And the events aren't as enjoyable to me. If I go a few days without playing star rail, or even a week, I don't feel like I missed out on anything. This coming from someone who also currently has nothing to do in Genshin besides treasure hunt, and farm for characters that I may or may not have.
The only thing that feels gated is the Energy cap. Especially with the importance of Relics, barely being able to farm half a set within a day feels terrible. Genshin has its own issues, but their Resin costs are a lot more reasonable to the point where it's quite easy to cap out on Artifacts.
I'm also thinking about this but can't seem to point out the problem. Like, why does it feel like everything costs stamina? I guess it's the additional materials needed for the traces. But I just feel like its the same average experience in Genshin during the first 3 months of playing. The hurdle of "I dont have enough stamina for everything"
Bro, you can upgrade your character as much as you can while you waiting for the next version release (like upgrade traces, lightcone, Chara level, relic) Don't just upgrade your main character, because sometimes you need more than 4 characters to play in certain events. You can also finish all the daily quest every day for the stellar jade that you can save it for the next limited character update.
im level 65 and i havent even clear most of the simulated universe and i just did danheng story quest today. so yeah dont try to rush things or try to reroll you willl get bored of the game
What’s really interesting is that for me, I took a break from HSR because I felt there was *too much* content. I didn’t like being forced to finish important quests to access an event, so I went “fuck it” and dipped. The main thing that keeps my interest atp are the pretty men. But like, why rush content for the sake of completion? I never understand those people who play without taking the time to enjoy the game. It’s a very slow-paced game too, so there really is no point.
The game kinda make you wanna rush the content especially if you are new player because you are missing out on premium currency every week. If you want the character and lightcones on the current banner you are going to be doing that permanent content quick so you can get them before they go away for months. You can chill once you have played for awhile and have a good amount of maxed out characters to clear content with.
When I started playing I wanted a lot of story because thats what I was here for I love game stories a lot of content is something a enjoy about games, I don’t skip dialogue so thats probably why it’s taking me a longer time to get through but come on they did all that voice acting I can’t just skip through it
@@CrazyDino698 Yeah I didn't skip the story either its pretty great can't wait for 2.1 now. Its not even really that long if you put it in context I've finished all the trailblaze missions within 3 weeks that took 9 months to actually release.
@@mxnchoild I was so surprised that the regular dialogue had voice acting and not just for cutscenes so I was like I can’t just skip through it they put in all that work also it makes you feel more like you are actually in the story
I’m too busy rummaging through trash cans and mailboxes to even finish the story lmao
Feels
Sameeee 😂
ik im late but sameeee
Same i got a frickin achievement for doing that lol
fr
This is why I'm taking time to progress the game. Because I know after I've done everything I'll be bored playing.
Right , I don't see the sense of rushing things because of the hype or need to be powerful and other stuffs......🤷
@emmanuel mercene Content Creators seem to like Rushing Games just to get Clicks or Views.
Imagine me i have 3 account beacause i did finished the story in the 1st 2 and i did this too for try more pg as a f2p
That's like slowly eating your breakfast bc you'll have nothing to eat afterwards. You eat it and move on
I agree but the difference is that Genshin was an open world and this is not but Mihoyi is treating it the same with updates spread out so far. Just think about it, we will not get a new world or main story until a whole year. Thats lame
This is why you don't rush things.
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This is why you don't play gacha games
@@vittorio6117that's different
Are he speedrunner?
You don't need to rush to experience the lack of content in a game like this.
TB50 in a week and a half is crazy dude, no wonder you don’t think there’s content 😭😭😭
fr, i started playing 2 weeks ago and im still TB37 💀
I Play since launch and don’t feel like getting bored, even tho I am TB 64. I think the University time helps me not getting a burn out in the game.
My sis started around the release date and she’s only level 37. I thought the level cap was like 40
I have been playing since july and I just hit TB 53 like 2 days ago
@@yourmissright7 im tb 57 now lol
“I feel like Genshin didn’t timegate us this hard at release.”
And that’s how you can tell somebody did not play Genshin at release.
Yes
Wasn't it just Mondstat and a 5 hour questline tops?
OMG exactly. You were literally stuck in Mondstant for EVER.
I played on day 1 and heck no we have the entire Mondstadt and Liyue to explore until 100% and hundreds of culus to pick without any compasses.
world quests are also longer than HSR's
From what I remember we were level gated quite abit but less time gated in a sense. I think having more exploration helped make it feel like there was more stuff to do too
"I've done everything I can..." And then you realize that that is your problem 💀
Maybe cos he is a contents creator?
imagine he thinks, forgoten hall is completed, but show only first Memory part. This person will be suprised, there is also Memory of chaos to complete.
@@capasak598MoC also resets so there's also that
yeah many players didnt take time and now complain of nothing to do
@@reaganlaut9916 So, why not diversify and create content with one of the other dozens of games that are released every year???
I mean this as a genuine question. I've never understood why people complain about lack of content in games that are updated frequently when they can literally just go play something else for a week or so and there are countless options.
Quality > quantity. I don't want them to rush anything and let them come out half-cooked. I'd rather wait longer for things to come out more fleshed out than rush through more content just to get bored again.
I don't want Inazuma 2: Electric boogaloo, so I think it's better that they take their time, plus, they hinted the event of fights in the underworld before it came out (the character that sets up the fightst tell you there's going to be a big tournament), Idk if there's other hints for future events but that was cool to notice.
@@rick30521 "Inazuma 2: Electric boogaloo" lmao agreed
@@rick30521 wasn’t that the event in the 2nd half of 1.0
@@rick30521 yep definitely don't want inazuma 2
They are getting full profit already, they should deliver quality and quantity
did he just say “i did everything in a week and a half and have a full time job” ?? when do you sleep blood???
He plays way more than he makes out
blood 💀
@@ghost-cathybrid7 months late
The ‘job’ and a ‘week and half’ was probably an exaggeration, you can’t even skip story quests and dialogues, so no way would you actually finish it in a week unless you wanted to die from lack of sleep and exhaustion. Take it from me who has all the time in the world but has 5 pending story quests, 20 unfinished world quests, and 4 incomplete events.
Bro has no blood due yo lack of sleep 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
A wise man once said…”Rome wasn’t built in one day…cuz the Romans would grow bored.”
It was the colosseum Bro😂😂😂🤦🏿♂️
That wise man wasn't very wise then
@@oscardjaffi2372no. the saying goes rome wasnt built in a day. he is right.
When was Rome not Rome and when did not Rome become Rome… aka this phrase literally needs us to ignore that and also like cherry pick and be selective if when historical time line… wise man might not actually say that as he’d see the issue an gnaw with the saying.. also it ignores POPULATION makes the “nation” aka the second a ppl established a territory and settle they established/built on day one.. now a set this where do we draw the line of built… when is and isn’t it enough to be considered built? 🤔 so underneath that “wise” saying it’s objectively untrue.. 😂 Rome was officially established when the tribe of ppl settled and today rome still builds.. it never stopped.. also back to the first settlers that settled on HILLS an quickly erected their homes? do they not count.. ? Objectively literally could be built in a day then simply progress as it is to this day.. 😂 u understand the quote is a damn insult to the ppl at all periods before the wut the quote considers “built” and again wut about afterwards..? insult to them too tbh.. again who decides wut is “built” and what isn’t “built” most quotes don’t make sense if u compare then to reality.. still only find scientists making actual good quotes.. not only both romantic by man sense under the hood.. 😂 in short “aye don’t think about it just accept it.. cause it sounds good” Also is Rome today built or not built? 🤔 absolutely dumb quote that requires us to ignore so many things until it makes sense.. 😂💀
Wrong. I secretly built rome in a day.
to be honest, i finished the story in a month, there were so many other side quests to do and activities, and its literally a fresh NEW game, the animations, effects and alot of other things are new and renewed so i hope they take their time Quality > Quantity
When it comes to Honkai vs Genshin, I think Honkais quality is a hundred times better while Genshin focuses seemingly more on quantity and being mihoyos cash cow which they shit out the same content over and over for money and gacha pulls. I do hope star rail which mihoyo is more passionate about, can keep up its streak with quality and to not go down the Genshin route
@@mat7258 you cannot make a game like genshin without passion, this is such an insult toward game designers/artists/devs and everyone who helped in creating the game. There is so much research and details going into the design and story. Just bc it's not fun for you, doesnt mean it's not fun for any other people and that it's not a passion project. Hsr on the other hand is disappointing, they basically copy genshin system minus the open world.
@@kvthmluv I think you misunderstand how Mihoyo actually feels about their games... Yes you probably feel genshin is better and HSR isnt, but Mihoyo feels the opposite way :/
@@mat7258 do you know anything about game dev at all?
@@mat7258 and i did not state anyway that genshin is better. I just prefer genshin characters, the games are literally the same, that's why it's baffled me how yall are comparing which one is better when they are both the same game with different combat/story. They even have the same concept where they use irl countries as reference for each planet. I said hsr is disappointing bc they did not make a whole new game, rather they just copy genshin system, you literally can convert hsr stuff to genshin stuff 1:1.
People are complaining about “lack of content” but they grinded at least a month worth of content in a week💀 I’m not part of the dev team but I don’t think they planned for no life’s to grind every last bit of content the game has in the first week…
And people talk about how he only plays 3 hours a day but if you take your time with the game not rushing threw everything it can take a month to complete. I’m not saying to listen to all the dialogue as I skipped all that but I still managed to make the game last a month with story and everything by just taking my time with the game.
Yeah and spam click quest no reading etc.
People blow this "rushing" out of proportions, I work normal 8h + general chores and commute, I played ~1h-2h daily and still finished almost everything before Jing's banner started
There needs to be more endgame content, whiteknight.
You don't need to no life brother. I work a full time job too, I come home and play for like 3 hours a day after dinner and stuff and I cleared the content in 10 days, only things left are SU 6 and Forgotten halls but that's down to skill and lack of chars
"i dont think they planned for no life's to grind" then wtf are they doing making gacha games no? Like I've played hundreds of games and hoyoverse games is the worst when it comes to pacing, i have quit genshin for like 3 months and i catched up to everything within a few days for just like 2-3 hours a day, like wtf do you think games like epic seven implement huge difficulty jumps, and lots of side content for if not for the one that plays the game for 10 hours a day.
There is literally a guide on how to pace your game progression and they still fail despite being a multi billiondollar company, adding multiple side content like raids, pvp, etc wouldnt take much time if they actually think about the game livelihood itself
LMAOOOO the way this short aged like milk. 8 months later and this game has WAY more endgame content than genshin ever could 💀💀💀 yall enjoy that abyss floor 12 for the next 10 years
😂fr
It's crazy how much there is to do now compared to the beginning
Hi3 has more though
GENSHIN COULD NEVER 🗣️🗣️🙏🙏
Yes like there’s so many special events, I keep getting a bunch of texts for missions in the game, there’s daily and weekly training and the simulated universe like I am STRESSED and I’ve been playing for only two weeks so I guess that makes sense 😂
That is because Star Rail has a lot of *hidden* quests and storylines. They don't show up in your missions, you just have to pay attention and talk to every NPC you come across often.
Also theres some quests that you get from NPCs etc messaging you
Hidden quests don't take 20h bro chill please....
...Why would any quest take 20h irl hours
Why would u want a quest to last 20hrs...
I ain’t doing all that
im actually overwhelmed with the amount of stuff i can do. i play for abt 2 hours every couple of days when i feel like it and i feel like theres sm content. i started playing in abt the middle of may by the way
Same. I started playing directly when it released and there's just so much to do
SAME
Exactly, I started playing the game as soon as it launched and the servers went up and it’s been hella stuff to do…so much stuff that it’s overwhelming but I never get bored. 😂
@user-br1nl6qr2p Well I've been playing casually for months and still have stuff to do :) I don't play every day because I have enough other things to do. I love exploring in games so most of the time all I do is just running around but I enjoy it so that's all that matters to me.
@user-br1nl6qr2p I mean running around, exploring the area, looking for chests and just admiring the scenery and details put into this game.
Tf I haven’t even started the boat quest thingy, maybe they aren’t updating it because not everyone speed runs everything
Right there mate, why they need to rush things over 🙄🧐😒
@@emmanuelmercene The people who are complaining are content creators, no new content, no good ideas for videos leads to lack of views. It's just business things for them honestly. It's a race to who can release the first tutorials, damage records etc etc.
I finished the game in just over a week & I work full time 🤷🏼♀️
@@ponygrrrl Did you ever sleep?
My friend works full-time, reads every fucking dialouge and explores the whole planet before going onto the next. And finished in about 1 week and a half, so no offense but it is you who is kinda slow or either extremely enjoying the game at its fullest.
"i completed the forgotten hall" 💀
In a week an a half 😂
Dude is lying for clicks.
@@crowing3886%100. And him saying genshit had more content on release is completely false too. On release the game had only mondstadt (no dragonspine) and liyue (no chasm) the game also had no events and the first event in the game was the most notorious unfair bs event in the entire game which caused them to never ever make that event again.
@@ardaoguzhan8181 It did have a bit more content than Star Rail just by being open-world. Yes, there was no Chasm or Dragonspine, but you still could explore Liyue and Mondstadt as a form of content.
@Sleepdeprived121 and after exploring all of it i felt bored with nothing but the daily
im struggling xD
People who are leaving are just content creators not the players. That's because they don't have things to make content and make money.
True im tired of seeing mtashed quit an come back to genshin like we get it it’s for money but like he’s bored so WHYYY
Which is understandable. I mean tbh i don't want to see squeezed content which isn't as interesting as smth new maybe
The most based and accurate answer out there.
I didn't leave but I was bored af the 2 weeks before Jin banner
Playing only 1 hour a day
@@mvigel see that’s the thing about that dude and tectone
Is that they constantly whine about games and always bail
But always come crawling back
Genshin definitely timegated us at release, just in a different way. The story was locked by AR more often and in larger increments than HSR is, and there were significantly less ways to grind exp than HSR has now. It’s not that Genshin didn’t timegate us, HSR is just doing it differently.
I played like two hours of Genshin at release and then put it off cause I had other things going on, I'm only going back to it now after putting in a lot of hours into HSR and honestly my biggest complaint against Genshin right now is how often the main quest will just be stopped until you hit a specific AR.
The last quest I did was the one where Venti plays the harp to try and pacify the dragon, I'm AR 13 right now and I need AR 18 for the next story quest.
I need five more ranks, not one or two, but five ranks that I'll need to fuck around the map to get.
@@nisnast The exploration is one of the best parts of the game though!
@@nisnastwhat's your ar now?
@@nisnasti just explore the map . I just grind the exp in the map mostly in Liyue and Monstadt. I don't want to ascend the AR i still save around 14k exp. Just explore more map to have more exp.
@@nisnast bro the lower ranks in genshin can be rushed thru within hours its not rly like ur time gated..
Perfect example of: "Tell me you didn't play Genshin at release without telling me you didn't play Genshin at release." =D
Genshin had more content. Just by being open world.
They literally had two nations of world quests and explore content at release on top of the archon quests for each nation. Star Rail pales in comparison. You log on for half the time and still run through all of the games content more quickly for SR.
What a cl0wn, let me jog your memory a lil bit. Genshin 1.1 we got continuation of archon story, 1.2 dragon spine, 1.3 lantern rite. What we get at star rail 1.1 ? Filler 🤡🤡
LMAO now you're the perfect example of tell me you didn't play genshin when it was released without telling me you didn't play genshin at release
I just feel like we had more to do in Genshin for being it an open world, HSR is a completely different from Genshin, so idk why people like to compare both of them?
seeing this 9 months later, lmao- Oh little do they know
Hsr is very clearly a way more chill and relaxed game than Genshin is - like it isn’t as time consuming which is great for casual players
This is exactly why I quit genshin impact.
It was hella time consuming and sadly I couldn't play it regularly due to my studies and house work like cooking etc....
But in Honkai star rail I took my sweet time there without rushing anything and I could play it regularly, since it doesn't consume much of my time.
Ngl I'm having so much fun with it more than genshin.
@@ladyluck6053 I agree with this. As a student, I almost have zero time to play Genshin because one quest lasts like 2-3 hours (even the Act V Sumeru took like 4-5 hours if you didn't skip the dialogue). It's maybe a good thing for a full-time gamer/content creator, but not for me. At the end of the day, it's just about your preferences and how much time you're spending on a game.
You right 💯
@@ladyluck6053 uhh..i am a student myself and i myself only play the game only for 1-2 hours but i dont think so its time consuming i foundit very fun and i also have a relief that theres so much content to do(i havent even started doing the wanderer quest and i have so many world quests in my inventory)
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Fr, personally i quit Genshin cuz they added *TOO MUCH* content and i couldn't follow it
I think it's better to not have a lot of content at first, and getting it step by step, than having too much content and spending all of your time in it and trying to follow the story, the events, the new worlds and characters coming out ect... (Like you said, it's time consuming)
It scared me when i saw that Hoyoverse has already put like ≈15 new characters and 2 new worlds since i quitted genshin (≈ 1-2 years ago)
As someone who is only able to play for about 2 hours a day, I feel theirs enough content to keep me going for like another month. I think it's aight.
I honestly think it's loaded with content for a new gacha game. Feel like everyone that complains forgets that this is a gacha game that has scheduled updates for the next couple years
same
can't agree more. Compare doing daily in Genshin with HKS, Genshin takes too much time for me since there are few days I can play for only 30 mins because I still have work to do 😢 then there is no time for me to catch up with new events and stories in Genshin so that's why I just quit to take a rest 🥲
As someone who plays less than an hour a day... I actually kind of agree with the opinion of lack of content.... I'm pretty much TL 60, and the only real thing I'm missing to complete is the memory of chaos. I've done all the story/side stories stuff (the main story and side missions of this game is legit the best part IMO), I have one entire team basically fully built (currently building my second team)...
At the pace I'm going, I'm pretty sure I would have completed everything in like a month... And I highly doubt hoyoverse is planning on adding late game content, or story content, or any thing that has more than a couple of hours of gameplay by then.
Hopefully I'm wrong and they manage to release a banger patch next time, cause I really like HSR
not really but stay delusional
as someone who is a completionist (170+ achievments and ive BARELY touched xianzhou luofu) this is actually a win for me LMAO i get to take my time reading every dialogue and explore every nook and cranny and theres still a storyline ahead for me to look forward to.
This!!!
Same. I don't have that much time but I explore the game slowly and read every dialogue. Honestly based on how much progress I make and how much time I spend on just running around, I'd say with the content we have *now* it will last me at least 2 more months minimum 😂
Rushing through the entire game and then complaining... They don't play for the game itself but instead probably just because it was really popular from the very start or something.
Playing a game is supposed to be fun, that's why we do it. How can you even enjoy the game when you're constantly rushing through everything?
yes!! I’m the kind of player that doesn’t progress until i’ve seen everything there is to see or get all the stars and rewards. Currently at stage 14 of forgotten hall only and taking my time with simulated universe, saving up stellar jade for luocha because i’m f2p
Exactly! These are the same people who skip dialogue and just play. Why even bother to play a game with a lot of lore?? I mean I already took in all of the content HSR had for now but I thoroughly went through every single dialogue of the game, even the SU’s events and books.
Same. They clearly had so much fun writing the dialogue in this game and they gave you so many places to find it. Have you met the talking plant or experienced the trash can soap opera?
Why would you even speedrun the entire game.
This is why streamers and creators should have less influence on games, nor more.
I actually find this set up to work with my schedule. I have work in the morning and only get to play the game at night, and I can't play for too long since I still have chores and work the following day. So i would play for at least 2-3 hours to finish daily missions and then get ready for bed. I have already reached tl.50 and I am steadily leveling all my avatars to level 70.😅
That’s how I play too it makes it less stressful to finish everything. I just use my resin do my dailies and log out once my characters are strong I can attempt MoC
I think genshin and star rail are really designed for people who really work like Genshin average player age range is 35 years old iirc so ye intended for people who work, who earn money and those who have the means to spend money on the game
As Zhongli says, “Every journey has its final day. Don’t rush.”
“OSMANTHUS WI-“
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOO
tastes the same as i remember
Lol
@@mat7258 but where are those who share the memory....
😂
This video didn't age well
Lol fr
Well duh it has more content now like...?
im the hundredth like!!:>
It never was right to begin with
People like this due were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault for not having a life
Lvl 50 in a week? Geez I've been playing for three months and I just got to lvl, 46
It never was right to begin with
People like this due were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault.
Genshin has a similar amount of content at release as star rail. The issue is that Genshin is an Open World Action Adventure game and HSR is a Turn Based RPG. Genshin with the fact you have to actually travel everywhere and more activly participate in combat makes its feel like it has way more content than it actually does. But if you actually sat down and played Genshin and did the release content you will literally finish in maybe 4 days. Thats just pure content including anemo and geoocculi collection. People forget the Liyue MSQ stopped right after you meet Ganyu the first time. After that all you have to do is run around, and do puzzles which Genshin has because its an exploration game.
I just want to say that its rare to see ppl who understand what Openworld game here lol, you know, most of this community just think "collecting item and exploring is unnecessay and tedious, big map also bad" while literally they playing Openworld game lol🤣
@@ZilverEchos i dint exactly blame them, as in the last 6 or 7 years there's been an uptick in open world games, and lot of them aren't that good, which has burned people out on them, it kinda like how the movie industry has slowly made normal zombies so prevalent nobody wants to see YET another Zombie movie.
@@ZilverEchosOpen world should motivate you to explore, which Genshin didn't. There was very few enemies, almost no interesting unique location (they proper up first ruins ground so much,bbut didn't even made them into a dungeon to explore), and no interesting or even just worthy rewards (no one needs a chest with underlevel piece gear in it).
@@rinslittlesheepling1652 >To be clear the reason you end up having to explore in Genshin is due to the need to gather mats to upgrade your characters, gathering oculi, and completing quests, especially the ones not marked on the map.
@@axis1247and that was fun to farm mats, back in 1.0. Now, it's tedious af
Tell me you whale, without telling me you whale:
Whale?
@@Chill_Deen Being a, Whale, means to be someone who spends a lot of money in a Gacha Game
No need to be a whale to clear the whole game, the moc is always cleared by some people with only free 4 stars, there's also people who cleared the whole simulated universe with those free 4 stars
@@KlyfelNOBODY cleared moc let alone close to lvl 10 in the first week of the game. This guy is literally lying 😂
@@crowing3886 oh the first week ? lmao yeah in that case that's impossible
No people are leaving because they probably realised they need to touch some grass💀😭
lol
People touch grass everyday but you had to say it cause you dont 😂
@@deliriumbee4678feeling called out dear?
@@deliriumbee4678bro is offended for touching dendro instead of grass😂
This is a difference between hsr and genshin players
This aged poorly lol. HSR on top ❤
It never was right to begin with
People like this dude were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault.
I mean Lvl 50 in a week?, I've been playing for 3 months and I just got to lvl 46
It never was right to begin with
People like this dude were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault.
I mean Lvl 50 in a week?, I've been playing for 3 months and I just got to lvl 46
Meanwhile...everyone struggles to fully explore the Sumeru Rainforests & Deserts...plus 100% completion of the Aranara Quests, Jeht's Story, & the Pari Sorush World Quests.
I feel like Genshin quests can honestly be super lazy, unmotivated, uninspired, sloppy, and just boring and tedious. I love Genshin a lot, but lately these side quests like the Aranara quests are VERY boring to play and chore some. However, the stories behind them, the lore and the character emotions/development is amazing
@@mat7258 10min of playing for 2h of text (with no skip option) is quite demotivating, yes.
@@mat7258 The Aranara was lazy at times and decent at times, but the desert quests were much better, especially with newer and stronger enemies, like the special eremites and consecrated beasts.
@@adrian72806 agreed
Not struggling, People just doesn't really have any motivation to explore stuff, there's only 1 endgame content and these Quests are just too boring it's pretty much 90% dialogue, 5% puzzle and 5% actual gameplay, Imo despite the game having a very beautiful World, Good music/ost and etc, the world just feels a bit empty tbh
Ugh, this is the complaint for almost every gacha game at launch that its a stupid complaint at this point.
Its like complaining about polluted air when you choose to live in a metropolitan city.
"I'm going to rush the whole game, what's the worst that can happen" / "God, there's no content, time to drop it, end game dead."
Rly dumb also when you consider its a free game with scheduled updates that expand the content over periods of time. In 2~ years new ppl will start saying that there is a ton to do and that its overwhelming.
No. Other gachas offer a fair amount of endgame content from the beggining.
@@robin-sempai1756 You whiteknights keep repeating the word "rush" instead of understanding the problem which you are a part of.
@@evilmiyoho6742 No. The complaint is the one being addressed not whether or not other gacha games have more "endgame content", complaining that a gacha game lacks content is an invalid critiscism.
Content varies, for some its the endgame while others include the lore or just farming in general. It becomes a stupid critiscism because saying that a gacha game lacks content is tantamount to saying that there are no other elements to the game.
I highly doubt that this guy has 100% everything in the game by reading all lore books and finding all the references within the game as well as probably secret missions within the game.
So no, the game has content, its whether or not its good content is the valid critiscism.
Not everyone is a zoomer I'm enjoying the story at my own pace and just taking my time its great. Im not quitting anytime soon
Impossible, you can't take the story slow, just playing it normally you would finish it in a week, you probably havent touched the main story for weeks now so you claim you are talking it "slow" when in reality you are straight up not touching it
Same here, haven't finished the story and haven't touched Trailblaze 20 haha even after playing since release
filthy casuals...
@@superbeta1716 And...? Just let people play the story at their own pace. I haven't touched the story in a few days and I'm still enjoying the game.
@@superbeta1716imagine bossing on how u play the game, good for u if u can finish it in one sitting … not everyone is like u that will play the game non stop 😭😭 other have this thing called “having an actual life outside 😊”
Getting this video recommended to me after the Penacony finale is funny af
Samee 😭✋
So y'all really don't remember how EMPTY Genshin felt the first year.
And the second, and the third.
Not at all
Uhhhhhh I guess but I played genshin back then at the end of the day soo I still had content
@@credentials4664 what is that supposed to mean? Lmao
Yeah, if you don't play a game it automatically has no content, you're not playing it.
@@Jodariel. ok guess I messed this up but what I was meant to say is: I was taking my sweet time to complete the story.
Ps: you know when you were too low ar to progress the story so you had to grind?? This sucked for me.
This is why you take your time, and font fall into the "streamer trap".
Bro really out here finishing the game in just a week while I'm just here doing Elysian Rea-, I mean Simulated Universe to get my second Herta
Idiot
I knew other people would think Elysian Realm and Simulated Universe are similar
Since I've done every quest, I'm starting to begin maxing out every character's level as well as their traces. Afterwards, I'll try to get each of the characters the best relics I can get.
This is a good approach it seems. From what little I've looked into it, the "ideal" priorities seem to be level>lightcone>traces>relics.
For anyone curious on specifics of how to optimally raise a character and get then as usable as quickly as possible, here's how:
Levels to 80 1st (For DPS. For supports 70/80)
LC to a minimum of 60
Traces to +6/7/8
then Relics until you reach a point where the only improvements are getting perfect pieces
That setup gets your characters to a usable state for MoC 10+ content as soon as possible.
Hope it helps!
@@0v_x0this is the ideal
Well, Genshin wasn’t this bad because open world exploration. Also, they didn’t do as many events this patch as they will be in the future, so there’s that
There was like One event
Genshin WAS as bad as this, and I’d say it was arguably worse. 1.0 Genshin had only 1 actual content event, was FAR less polished, heavily level-gated you, and was far less generous with every aspect of the game (e.g. free wishes, resin, materials.) The only thing Genshin had over HSR is open world exploration.
It’s very clear who didn’t actually remember 1.0 Genshin and who did.
@@RayGunnMK2 still with exploration you had stuff to do I remember It because between one archon quest and the other you HAD to explore to unlock it basically
@@RayGunnMK2 hey man, no need to start gatekeeping remembering the past. I don’t remember it being as bad, but hey just my opinion.
Genshin only had the open world aspect everything is worse than HSR at launch.
I do have to say tho, it's not a lack of content it's that people rush things too much, the games hoyo makes aren't meant to be rushed through, why do u think they planned genshin to last smthn like 10 years? You're meant to spend 2 hours at best a day yet I've seen people spend 16 hours and then complain the game doesn't have enough content despite the game having been out for only a month. Also genshin is an open world game so u can do much more compared to HSR.
lets also not forget that this game is BRAND NEW?
Yup, who tf play "gacha" games for 10 hours a day? Not to mention if you have school / work..
Yeah I'm not even trailblaze lvl 34 yet and I'm 2 lvls away just by farming relics for my dps Gepard
I’ve only spent ~2-3 hours a day for 2 weeks and then took a week break and I’m nearly tb 50, it doesn’t take long to do things
granted the reason I might stop playing is it took me 150 pulls to get jing yuan and I’ve made 2 alt accounts only for the same result
if I don’t end up getting any luck on silver wolf who I really need I might just not play anymore other than major updates
@@a1enigma862 i rushed like shit but that's fine cuz I got other stuff to do, Like I'm tb 57.
I haven't found the game to be too specific charachter reliant, I've completed world 6 difficulty 2 in SU with a good fire MC, barely ok Gepard and Natasha and a bad Serval (lvl 60, light cone lvl 40, leftover artifacts and traces expected from a lvl 40 character).
HARD DISAGREE! Genshin for first 6 months after LAUNCH was dryer then a desert. Literally nothing to do except collect mints and berries and play time gated events
This is the exact reason i quitted and never came back
Wait for new planet after a year in HSR :pepelaugh:
Same old nothing to do boring shit + since its not open world, staring at empty environment make it even more boring compare to genshin when sightseeing is more prevalent
@@aurumlovelyheart9532 I don't think getting to a new planet/place will take a full year like in Genshin. It'll probably took place after 3-4 patches, i hope lol.
@@aurumlovelyheart9532” :pepelaugh: “ 💀💀💀
This exactly
This short did not age well 😂
😂the comment I was looking for
It never was right to begin with
People like this dude were complaining of having nothing to do in the game, when they rushed the whole thing in a week, thats completely their fault.
I mean Lvl 50 in a week?, I've been playing for 3 months and I just got to lvl 46
I cant even defeat one damn deer
It is hard
@@shenzixirgs8152 ....my quinque solo the deer...
Yeh I remember that fkin deer forced me to finally stop and actually build my team 🤣 til then I’d just been idling along with whatever relics I happened to pick up.
@@TheCrazyCapMasterIf I may, I would like to ask for some words of motivation. I am currently stuck at that giant lady (Phantylia or smth) and although I do want to progress further in the story, I don’t know if I should invest into building team or just wait for luck 😐
@@ЕвгенияОнежская I defeated Phantylia on the first attempt using Preservation MC, Jing Yuan without his LC, 4-star Dan Heng, and Luocha. But based on how the fight went I could’ve done it with Natasha instead if I needed to. You should be able to handle Phantylia by leveling your whole team to at least 70, and getting some solid levels on their relics. It’s definitely doable with whatever you have on hand, provided you use characters with the right elements (I’ve forgotten what those are but it probably matches the team i used to some extent). Preservation MC built for pure defense is a must if you don’t have Gepard, as if you can’t shield the whole team you’ll need Phantylia to focus on him and waste her attacks. Also I think you get a trial Jing Yuan for the boss fight, keep him on the other end of the team from MC as he needs to stay alive.
This is the reason why I am not even rushing anything in HSR and Genshin rn. Let the content stew for a bit and appreciate the slow progress.
Exactly.
Not to mention that with Hoyo's release tactics and schedule, expecting the Genshin-levels of content in Star Rail, is just delusional.
Especially after just one month...
How to solve this problem: Read the lore
*End of conclusion*
Indeed. I can bet atleast 98% of the people who say "they're done with all content" and "there's nothing left in this game" have never done things like going through all the data bank records, ascension drop descriptions, character lines in profile and other voicelines, etc
that or go outside
@@tomixravenlossI can also bet that most of those people you mentioned just aren’t interested in all of that.
@@tomixravenloss Why the fuck would any normal person do all that? HSR has barely any content, face the facts.
Dude just reading welts lore alone is an abysmal adventure if you're not a Honkai 3rd impact fan.
Never let this guy cook again.
Honestly, I think this is good for us, we don't have to devote ourselves to the game. It's play, then take a break, then come back. It reminds me of gaming in the early 2000s
Yea but with games getting so boring and stale these days, breathes of fresh air like honkai having no more current content kinda sucks.
@@mat7258thats why you find other games instead of playing just 1 game
@@mat7258Try league of legends
People are rushing way more than they think they are. There was this huge "I gotta get to blah blah blah" point that so many people were on in that first week. I didn't rush, I took my time, and it took me WAY longer than a week to get to TB50+. Like, a lot closer to a month, or more.
I'm not shocked people were "dissapointed" with the amount of content because they could have dumped a bunch more content and people would still be this way. I think folks who rolled on Seele also sped through more of the content than those of us who sat on our resources for at least one banner, since we had to grind just a little more to get to the end of the game.
I really can't buy that all those people who were "done in a week" did all the repeatable puzzles, found all the little side quests, and did all the other content that you can do in this game. FH, SI, and the main story do not constitute "All the content in the game".
I totally agree with you and ppl are not giving hsr a chance
Fr ive been playing since release and im at tl 37 because im slowly doing the events and quests and ive barely spent any jades on any banners since i main qq
Im a little late but I actually hope they keep this pace of content for the foreseeable future. Even when I was playing genshin everyday, I got burnt out very quickly and began to fall behind on quests because there was just too much. If you dont rush I think HSR is actually really enjoyable and even better than genshin tbh
Hoyo : hey, we're giving out a free 5 star
Everyone : *reinstalling HSR*
Nah because he was the reason why I did reinstall hrs didnt regret it
I reinstalled hsr for Sparkle and Penacony best decision in this year fr😺
This is why people should stop rushing the games and playing for an absurd amount of time each day. You cant just speedrun the game then complain there's no content to complete. They're slowly releasing stuff, but also they're trying to actually work on the next story quests and other content to complete for us in the future. They cant just enter them into the game with the snap of a finger. I've been pacing myself since starting the gamr a month ago, and i just finished story quests at Tl 47. I still have a lot of missions and side quests though, and I havent rushed to complete the forgotten hall or simulated universe.
cope
@@revivemefellas9637 ratio
I play 30 minutes a day I was out of content 4 weeks in
Well the problem with speeding through the content is that technically you are playing the amount of time required to complete it. The less amount of days it takes to complete only makes it take longer for you to wait for the next update. Me personally I don't have any issues grinding each day so I always get value even after all content available is cleared. Than again I have significantly more patience than certain content creators.
@@IveBeenWithBrumaThe issue is that you can't even grind... In ARPGs you can overcap some shit with skill, in turn based game it's just pure maths and because of time gating and the fact that we need WEEKS to get more power to beat those stats check boss is bad
Even in SU, while we could try hard, we are also time gated because we need equilibrium lvl to acces harder difficulty, it could at least have been like MoC, accessible but no doable
I'm patient, I played many gacha, but the grind was real, here, it's only 15mn a day
Bro hit Trailblaze 50 in a week and a half 💀
So he just said RUclipsrs/Streamers don't work...
😢
Because of the lack of content at the moment I made another account. Just to see what I could pull out and try different set up.
Bro this is exactly what happened in the first month of Genshin Impact 😂
Genshin was much worse tbh. Feel like the fact that it's open world distracts a lot of people from how much content it actually had 😂
I remember there was a similar video about genshin back then😂.
@@Nakirinned It's a trend for basically every new gacha game lol, people get hyped pre-release, then on release they play 8 hours a day, then cry that they ran out of content within a week 😂
@@snowpools8498 Well also the Genshin community is full of teenagers who never played a video game before so that certainly helped.
Not really, open world adds A LOT of content and things to do.
My brother in Christ. Content aside, the first couple months of Genshin you only had 120 resin cap and NO CONDENSED RESIN 😭… it wasn’t a timegate it was a The Great Wall of Time.
Dr. Ratio's here to revive everything
Genshin was like this in the beginning. There was barely any quests or content. Now im overwhelmed by it to a point.
yep, people need to stop comparing Genshin and HSR especially on content matter. it's like comparing what baby can do and what an adult can do in daily life.
Ikr ? I hate it when people talk when it seems they haven't even played genshin when it just released. I remember being bored because I had no quests until they added Inazuma and now there's so much to the point I'll feel like I'll never get them all done and just stopped playing for a while xD
OML FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT. even though I've finished all of HSR's content I still do missions daily in contrast to genshin (which I haven't played consistently for months) because the content amount is way too overwhelming and even doing the 4 daily quests are tiring and boring. Having a game that is more relaxed in releasing content is kind of nice, plus it is just over a month old
@@acejini lool fr
It's just a content creator things at this point. I can't say anything though because some of them made their livings from playing games.
This is why I don’t cram everything in one sitting and only do dailies
Genshin did time-gate us. We were stuck in Mondstat for an entire patch until Liyue and some of the Liyue archon quest came out in 1.1. Meanwhile, starrail gave us 3 maps, 2 main storyline quests and part of the third main storyline quest in the first patch
Actually, Liyue was available at release. The patch of 1.1 introduced tartaglia, zhongli, diona and xinyan with a tartaglia boss and the last main quest for liyue.
tbh we should all be grateful
@@MarioRoyale45
How was it available at release, when it was literally added a month after the Game's 1.0 launch.
Genshin launched on October 20th.
Liyue was added on September 26th.
@@TheCursedCat1927 Look it up on google. Genshin released globally on the 27th or 28th of September (depending on your time zone). Update 1.1 came out on the 11th of November which added what I said above. Liyue was already included in 1.0 since the September 28th release.
@@TheCursedCat1927 unless you're talking about a beta, I never saw genshin release without liyue.
It took me around 1 month to finish the main story even though I was actually trying to rush things in order to catch up. If you somehow finished all of the main story in 1 week, start actually reading the dialogue. The lore can be entertaining and it takes much longer to complete everything if you read it.
"Tell me you don't touch grass without telling me you don't touch grass."
Simple: I'm not going outside.😅
homie said he had a full time job. Wym he doesn’t touch grass😂
How the hell everyone finishes the game so quickly?
I just finished the battle against svarog
They try to get a guineas world record on who is the fastest beating the current contents from the game's release
@@aarongallardo3684 Then complain that their speeding through has left them with nothing to do.
Who knows lmao. I don't understand how he got TL 50 in a week.. Like there's no way you can actually pay attention to things while speeding through that fast. I only just arrived at Xianzhou after like 30 hours in the game😂
Omg wait til you get to the end battle on Belobog 🤣
Edit: you must have by now…
@@Enterprise1701J i did it yesterday, that was such a good boss
i’m honestly trying to keep my playing to a minimum bc i Love the style and vibe and the mc’s integration into the story feels better than genshin but i’m doing sort of a couple hours a day and i’m honestly waiting for kafka to come out
Accomplishing/finishing every single content of the game is an evident reason that you need to touch some grass
It's an evident reason that the game needs more content.
@@evilmiyoho6742 There is now.
@@_nightshade_3889 It needs more endgame content.
@@evilmiyoho6742 Tell the devs yourself
@@_nightshade_3889 We all do
content creators when the content takes time to create
Imagine having a full time job and still run out of things to do in game.
🥶 cold-blooded.
@𝖕𝖆𝖎𝖓𝖋𝖚𝖑𝖑𝖞𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖌 It's the type of content. For eg. Livestreamers can take much longer because they are interacting and entertaining and audience while playing, and they don't skip dialogues usually - all that time spent listening and reading, sidetracking draws it out. Inspect just about any JP vtuber that plays HSR and their "Lives" playlist and you'll see what I mean.
People like this bloke here, are video makers. They don't need to show you if they understood the game's story. They just need to gather and test only the necessary information for their topics, and then churn out the flavour of the day. They are driven to make comparisons, and to that end, they must reach current "end game" to see where things lie.
Working a full time job you get 5-6 hours to get life situated and find time to relax. Hsr is perfect for people like this. I don't feel behind and can play and enjoy the game at my own pace.
I want to try genshin impact but I just don't have the time to start anything new.
Don’t start Genshin. I’m a full time student and it feels like you can never keep up. The artifact system is trash and your characters will never feel usable because of that. Literally, the game was login and spend all the daily energy on the artifact system, get trash artifacts, and log out 💀. I’d recommend it if you’re ok with that, but it’s a huge game nonetheless. I was originally a honkai impact 3rd player, so the story in Genshin feels a bit childish in comparison. Maybe it just needs more time, but still those are my thoughts.
@@gigi4498 well HI3rd is a whole can of worms and glitters and therapy and happiness
Please, i recommend Genshin, its not a PVP game, you can take time to grind and do the quest, log in just for some exploration and music.People do only think about the gacha and artifact system which every gacha is also worse the same. Its a beautiful game exclude the community. You can just login for 1-2 hours a day and play it slowly!
@@gigi4498 For a student like me, I absolutely agree. Genshin is time-consuming, and my characters eventually getting overwhelmed as the enemies are getting stronger, and I have no time grinding for artifacts because I go to school for 8 hours, not to mention homework. To be fair, it all comes down to whichever game you prefer, and whether you're willing to spend most of your time into that game.
HI3rd though, I'm currently at Chapter VII. I decided to not rush the story because the same reason, I'm a student. Liking it so far not gonna lie.
Genshin is kind of fun if you follow from the beginning but starting now where there's tons of things to do it's simply too much. There's also a chance you can't follow latest event because the characters might be locked to certain quests, which is stupid btw, and the story is not even worth investing your time over.
HSR: "Hey welcome back here's 40 free pulls + a 5* character + content + compensation"
Genshin: "who are you"
Just cause they try to speedrun shit and not take their time to have fun doesn't mean its lacking in content. It JUST came out. Why do people expect a fully done game when it was never advertised as such??
Flavor of the month revenue that's why.
I've seen only one har ad and it's "nice to meet u im Natasha, an underworld doctor. Feeling sick?"
It's already making the profit of a fully done game
Your logic makes no sense
@@rhezer The game isn't "fully done" though. A playable game that's in development exists, and that's what all of Hoyoverse's games are. Profitable as they are, people still complain because it's in development
that’s on you you going through everything so fast me personally i’m taking my time and i’m chilling plus genshin is exactly like this too lol especially at release which yes i was there since day 1
We already comparing a legit OPEN WORLD game with TURN BASED game, Of course Open world will have longer content because most of the time you have to explore the entire map
Well, it's the usual stuff. Before it was Honkai Impact vs Genshin Impact, now it's Honkai Star Rail vs Genshin Impact. It's a different type of game, so the time spent are different.
Although HI3rd, Genshin, and HSR do have some similiarities, but in terms of combat and exploration, all of them differs. HI3 do have an open-world mode, while Genshin IS the main genre. This leaves HSR as a semi-open world game, since there's still something to explore (even hidden quests/achievements), but not as much as Genshin. And combat-wise, HI3 offers hack n' slash, while Genshin is more like how you utilize your team-comp for a proper damage output (especially from elemental reactions), and HSR is turn-based combat.
Nah we call it on our own perspective "your a whale, do you even sleep?" That's what we call them in our perspective
I started day 1 and I'm still not done with the story 💀
Procrastination wins once again lmao
Yes, people will always complain whatever the case:
• Hoyo releases quite amount of content -> lack of content
• Hoyo releases a lot of content/areas to explore -> too much content
this is why it’s better to take the time to enjoy the game and not rush it because you’ll regret it within’ the first week and the only person you can blame is yourself and NOT the developers it isn’t their job to predict how fast you’ll finish their game and of course they will come out with lots of new stuff it’s only the early stages of the game and there’s of course so much more to come just like in genshin
> Devs bake time-gated, resource-dependent progression systems into their games that scale to player level, literally incentivizing players to rush through content
> "Don't blame the devs it's not their job to balance player progression" 🤡
I agree that rushing through the content is generally a bad idea but let's not pretend that Hoyoverse's game progression systems aren't diametrically opposed to their development cycle, or that they're blameless for designing such progression systems. It's largely a problem of their own making.
@@christopher6600tell me you dont get how these games work without telling me you dont get hoe these games wrok
@@christopher6600if you rush through content then no game can satisfy you, my dude
@@warehouse3304 Thank you for your engaging and insightful counter-argument. /s
First off, I said that I agree that rushing through games is generally a bad idea, but that doesn't absolve developers of their ability/responsibility to guide player progression through internal systems. Secondly, I'm AR60 on Genshin and TL58 on Star Rail so I understand plenty well how these games work. The resin/energy reward systems scale to world level, which means that you objectively get the most value out of your resin/energy at higher world levels. Resin/energy being time gated further incentivizes players to squeeze the most value out of whatever resin/energy they have available.
As it stands, Hoyoverse has tied a reward system that benefits from rushing content directly to content that shouldn't be rushed through. It's objectively poor design. If they decoupled resin/energy scaling from world level, decoupled world level from AR/TL, and/or decoupled quest/exploration progression from AR/TL, then they wouldn't have this conflict in progression systems. These are overly simplistic solutions of course, there would need to be some core redesigns for a proper fix, but my point is that it's not some nebulous problem that can't be identified and solved - The problem is fairly obvious and there's a million other ways to build progression systems that are more condusive to the intended player experience.
The notion that the devs are somehow blameless in predicting and influencing player progression is absurd.
@@christopher6600 so you're lv60 on genshin and 58 on honkai good for you, just because you played this far doesnt mean you know how this works
So as a new player starting in 2.3, can confirm that it’s opposite now lol. I’m so overwhelmed with all there is to do 😅
Its also our fault we speedrun it, hence no more content. BUT simulated universe has parts and theres memory of chaos, So not 100% dry but more of cant pass those stages currently.
Good thing about the wait is the daily missions to get more stuff to pull for your favorite characters, I actually skip Silver Wolf and the guy before her because I don't have resources to pull for them after what I did with Seele, so I'm really glad that Mihoyo isn't rushing the game so that I can save to pull for a character that is interesting for me, also I know that the devs are also working on Honkai Impact and Genshin Impact and that they actually got a lot of work to do
I'm leaving Genshin bc it doesn't appreciate my time like Honkai does😭 I'll always be a Genshin girlie but omg if I have to farm the same monster one more time I will lose my mind (I've spent more time grinding for leveling up my characters than actually doing archon quests and side quests)
Somehow i found this video again. Ironic bcuz this video doesn't aged well 😂
Sounds like a RUSH problem
Well this aged like shit on a hot day. Whats the player count now vs then?
Now the game is overflowing with content, bro just spoke too early the game was 1 months old. Not to mention that more content like gold and gears can still be added to simulated universe. Bro thought it would be like genshin😭😭😭 genshin could never
HOW???? You guys are just insane bro, I don't even have a job and I still could never keep up with you. When I finish the story they will have released at least 2 more seasons
thats why i allowed myself to enjoy it and am progressing slowly, having a real ton of fun playing it
And now there's so much content that I'm honestly overwhelmed lol
This didn't age well
I have a part time job, and a toddler, I played this game for an hour to 2 hours every other day and I still felt like I ran out of content very quickly. And the events aren't as enjoyable to me. If I go a few days without playing star rail, or even a week, I don't feel like I missed out on anything.
This coming from someone who also currently has nothing to do in Genshin besides treasure hunt, and farm for characters that I may or may not have.
I envy you people that doing the all chat message mission from every goddamn character. Mine feels like infinite
The only thing that feels gated is the Energy cap. Especially with the importance of Relics, barely being able to farm half a set within a day feels terrible.
Genshin has its own issues, but their Resin costs are a lot more reasonable to the point where it's quite easy to cap out on Artifacts.
I'm also thinking about this but can't seem to point out the problem. Like, why does it feel like everything costs stamina? I guess it's the additional materials needed for the traces. But I just feel like its the same average experience in Genshin during the first 3 months of playing. The hurdle of "I dont have enough stamina for everything"
I'm a slow player, so I don't lack "cOnTeNt"
Bro, you can upgrade your character as much as you can while you waiting for the next version release (like upgrade traces, lightcone, Chara level, relic) Don't just upgrade your main character, because sometimes you need more than 4 characters to play in certain events. You can also finish all the daily quest every day for the stellar jade that you can save it for the next limited character update.
This didn't age well!
Try playing it now (the one who made this shirt)
fr, Penacony is amazing and Ive been telling my friends once you get there its all worth it
im level 65 and i havent even clear most of the simulated universe and i just did danheng story quest today. so yeah dont try to rush things or try to reroll you willl get bored of the game
also me : *saves so many quest that i haven’t even finished half of them*
What’s really interesting is that for me, I took a break from HSR because I felt there was *too much* content. I didn’t like being forced to finish important quests to access an event, so I went “fuck it” and dipped. The main thing that keeps my interest atp are the pretty men.
But like, why rush content for the sake of completion? I never understand those people who play without taking the time to enjoy the game. It’s a very slow-paced game too, so there really is no point.
The game kinda make you wanna rush the content especially if you are new player because you are missing out on premium currency every week.
If you want the character and lightcones on the current banner you are going to be doing that permanent content quick so you can get them before they go away for months.
You can chill once you have played for awhile and have a good amount of maxed out characters to clear content with.
When I started playing I wanted a lot of story because thats what I was here for I love game stories a lot of content is something a enjoy about games, I don’t skip dialogue so thats probably why it’s taking me a longer time to get through but come on they did all that voice acting I can’t just skip through it
@@CrazyDino698 Yeah I didn't skip the story either its pretty great can't wait for 2.1 now. Its not even really that long if you put it in context I've finished all the trailblaze missions within 3 weeks that took 9 months to actually release.
@@CrazyDino698 FR the voice acting in HSR is so fun to listen to!!! I’m so glad I see people appreciating it to the fullest 💛💛💛
@@mxnchoild I was so surprised that the regular dialogue had voice acting and not just for cutscenes so I was like I can’t just skip through it they put in all that work also it makes you feel more like you are actually in the story