Hey Guys, Its been a while since I’ve made a Batman Forever related video. I was thinking of editing the whole opening of the film based on the original screenplay. Starting from the Arkham scene, meeting Nygma for the first time, and then leading up to Bruce seeing the signal and suiting up and heading to the bank scene. Thumbs up if you’d like to see that. Thanks!
After seeing this I kinda feel bad for Joel Schumacher. He wanted to make a legit Batman movie, but the studio was like no we want you to make a toy commercial!😔
It was kind of a big backlash response to Batman Returns. That film was really raunchy and lewd, and parents were upset about how risque a comic book film was. So when it came time for Schumacher to take his turn at bat (pun unintended), the studio wanted a family friendly Batman movie that could sell toys, be advertised at McDonald's, and so on. So he never got to make the movie that he intended originally and just made the best with what was expected of him.
I agree man I would be pissed too if I spent a lot of time and effort to create a bat that didn't even get used in the film they shouldn't have had him create the bat if they weren't gonna use it that's bullshit
For me the scene Riddler saw made sense even without this scene. I just assumed that giant bat thing was what Bruce saw when he was a kid after he fell in that cave or if not actually saw, what he either sees/saw in his dreams or what he imagined to be in that cave after the fall (scared/schocked+dark+bats=over-imaginative mind creating scary images).
@@Slechy_Lesh An orphan who dresses as a bat and fights a man dressed in question marks and another guy half-burned flicking a coin to make decisions is ridiculous.
@@kentallard8852 I don't care what anyone says. This scene is awesome and better than anything else in this shitty movie. It proves that if the studio hadn't forced schumacher to make stupid toy commercials, he could have at least made decent batman movies with some great sequences.
Youre feeling bad for nothing the movie was a success still is and they didnt even release the actual cut both the script and movie was handles perfectly people seem to think these batman films are supposed to be iconic and realistic like nolans well news flash this is tim burton and joel shumacher
@AlienBearCat well youre not the top gun star turned batman so honestly cry about it christian bale wasnt an angel on set of terminator salvation either so we can back and forth on this
+Apple Lucas Sorry, I know I'm a little late to comment here. What you have to remember about Batman Forever is that Shumacher wanted to make a good Batman film, but the studio wanted him to make a toy commercial. So, Shumacher tried to do both. In response, the studio removed all the scenes that would have made this a decent Batman film and turned it into a bad Batman film.
+Truett Edgell I agree He even said it. Behind the scenes Warner bros. at that time wanted a family friendly film. Schumacher tried his best like you said to do a Batman film but also pleasing the negative parents audiences that didn't approve Burtons, Batman Returns
We need an extended cut of Batman Forever! Dedicate it to Joel Schumacher cause he wanted to tell a Batman story that also had the complexities and drama that Batman faces. This deleted scene says it all!
@@SwissMarksman There were a bunch of scenes that were cut because the studio thought they were too dark, this whole Bruce Wayne finding himself subplot is one such example, another would be the original opening with Two-Face breaking out of Arkham.
fienga paul Val Kilmer wasn't even a bad Batman, in many cases he was a perfect choice for the character, he can play those dark roles. The original script and ideas were suppose to be dark and very good, Batman Forever was intended to be better than Batman Returns. However their sponsors wanted the next Batan film to be family friendly so they can sell their merchandises and please the parents of sensitive children. It was a decision Joel Schmauker actually regrets as he wanted the movie to be darker.
@@CynderSpirit That is why we the fans deserve and are petioning to get Schumacher's Cut aka The Red Book edition released on Blu Ray and 4K. I am one of these fans. My dad isn't into these kind of movies but when I told him that this film was to be darker and some of the scenes he was stunned and said "Are you kidding me? A comic book movie and comic book movies aren't kid friendly now? and I told him that it's true so after we both watched Batman 1989, Batman Returns, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Batman vs Superman Dawn Of Justice The Ultimate Edition he not only liked these movies but he was amazed and said "You know. I am so sorry I doubted you. I may not be into these movies but you're right about these movies not being kid friendly."
Joel Schumacher is a great director, but he was manipulated and bought by the Warner producers so that he would change Batman from movie to movie. How would it have been if Batman Triumphant would have been done? Probably more exaggerated than Batman & Robin.
I really like this scene, the huge bat represents his ultimate fear. It looks so menacing, but when he's no longer afraid he embraces it and it's as if the two are becoming one.
lesjconj Conj Because that last page says "Bruce insists on going to see a movie tonight. Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce’s cartoons will have to wait until next week." It Tells you two things one If Bruce had not insisted on going to the movie's his parents would still be alive. Causing him to feel responsible. He says and I quote " All my fault". Second that his parents wanted to see Zorro. Wich became his inspiration for donning a costume and fighting crime. Falling down the hole and seeing the bat just gave him the idea for the bat persona.
@@gandalfgrey91 I think it was an homage to TDKR where Bruce sees the manifestation of his anger and thirst for vengeance in the form of a demonic bat creature.
Can't believe this scene ended up on the cutting room floor. This would have been the best scene in the film, and it's not in the final cut. I enjoyed Batman Forever, but I'm glad Warner Brothers' studio interference and obsession with making the series "toyetic" backfired on them when they did Batman and Robin. Shame we still haven't got, and probably won't get, an official Director's Cut for this film yet.
The reason this didn't make the cut was because the studio wanted their Batman movies to be as kid friendly as possible following the parental backlash caused by Batman Returns. Joel Schumacher, despite being an otherwise solid director, is a total corporate yes-man, so he just did whatever he was told. I do have to admit, the Man-Bat thing probably would've scared me as a kid... For about a minute, and then I'd get over it. Still too much for the studio retards who wanted to sell all those Batman Happy Meal mugs.
I was four when I saw this in the cinema. Back then the spectral bat image in the final cut of the film was effectively creepy. This thing probably would've been too much for me at first but it wouldn't have driven me away from Batman like somebody at Warner Bros seemed to think it would.
Other than the giant bat looking dated even by 1995 standards, I love this scene. Hopefully, WB will put it back in the film someday, along with Two-Face's escape.
Love it. Such a great and epic scene, why it was cut maybe we'll never know. But I never interpreted it as there being some giant bat in the cave..but it being a projection of Bruce's mind and subconscious. A symbol reminding him of who and what he is. As a child yes he did fall in that cave and saw a bat but due to his young age, emotional state of mind at the time and fear he saw this winged creature as a gigantic monster, which embedded him his mind exactly what he would become...Batman.
This feels like a spiritual experience, like he's coming face to face with the Holy Ghost, who, instead of appearing as a being of light, arrives like a hideous gargoyle, cloaked in darkness and tragedy, forcing this man to face his fear, to devote his life to crushing evil. Just great stuff.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to edit and assemble this deleted scene. It adds some more depth and dimension into Bruce Wayne's inner struggle and his final acceptance of embracing the Batman role, and his responsibilities, willingly.
For people saying it's man bat, no it's not it's Bruce's inner demon and the bat is never there it's in Bruce's sub conscious even though man bat was hiding in the cave a lot in the comics
@@michaelcassy9592 Man-Bat is a scientist that turned himself into a bat, this scene is clearly meant to be an homage to TDKR when Bruce sees the manifestation of his anger in the form of a demonic bat creature.
It's not that either. Earlier in the movie, Bruce mentions to Chase when he fell into a hole that would become the Batcave, he saw this thing flying towards him. By logical comic book thinking, this is most likely the Bat that inspired Bruce to become Batman in the first place.
Oh my gooood. This has always been and will forever be my favorite Batman movie, no matter what other Batman movies exist or will be made. And you just showed me footage I've never seen before, thanks man!
Cambiar a español There is a deleted scene. Nygma has bruce memory, but also has his fears. which appears as a bat. I know that there is a character equal, but in the movies bruce uses his phobia, fear and humanness to become stronger (to all that give shape bat). another example, Batman- frank miller
Marks Arias I think you are taking me to literal, I'm saying "This makes me wish Man-Bat would have been in the movies." As is Man-Bat along with Harley Quinn had been planned for the next Batman installment that got cancelled (after Batman & Robin).
Even though this scene is rather frightful, I do understand it. Seeing that giant bat helped Bruce realize that Batman was a part of him. That he was more than just a guy in a costume doing good deeds. He was a crime fighter, a hero and a mystery all in one. Also, like a bat… he is terrifying to some and yet fascinating to others.
In the comics, Bane is born in a prison and is forced to stay in solitary confinement in awful conditions. He meditates and meditates while his in there for over 10 years when his fears finally manifest into a giant bat. He kills the giant bat with a sword. I wished the Nolan take showed Bane's vision. This reminded me of that but kinda the opposite.
I liked how the Arkham games handled this aspect of Bane's origins, specifically in Arkham Origins where he proclaims that once he kills the Batman he will finally find peace.
The scene where young Bruce falls through the hole in the ground into the cave and sees the bat for the first time was directly taken from TDKR. Schumacher originally wanted Batman Forever to be an adaptation of TDKR, but the studio declined. This was their compromise with him.
OMG, i had already saw the original raw footage version of this but your remastered version gave me chills (especially with the soundtrack). If the scene was a little bit longer with some extra more footage, that would have look so epic in the movie...
Every time I watch the movie I pause it at the right moment to watch this deleted scene because it shouldn't have been cut out. It shows Bruce is running away from his fear his whole life & is now embracing his fear right there, choosing to be Batman Forever. You know the meaning for the title of the movie
Jack/The Joker brought some horrible fear and trauma to the surface for Bruce when he killed his parents in the first film...then to top it all off, he has to live with the guilt that even though he avenged his parents death, he also has to live the rest of his life knowing “he took a life.” Very symbolic indeed considering the bat cave and the dark surroundings turned him insane leading to his duality as “Batman”. Joker always knew how to push the right buttons...I’d lose my sanity too. In his mind, the only way he could find any shred of peace within himself now is to embrace the new “dark gritty traumatic” side of his personality that Joker planted in him, and that’s embracing being Batman. Chase understood this...Vale and Selina did not.
this was my favorite deleted scene he finally goes face to face with the one who gave him his gift now they are one and some of you guys think its manbat but in the game arkham origins alfred calls him king bat
Batman Forever was a great film, but there was a couple of deleted scenes that should've been kept in like this one and Two-Face's escape from Arkham intro.
Scarecrow wasn't meant to be in Batman 3 as far as i know, the villains were still meant to be Riddler and Two-Face played by Robin Williams and Billy Dee Williams respectively.
@@kobi7955 Rumors are rumors, but I remember hearing a rumor that Scarecrow was going to be in it as well and that he was going to be played by Brad Dourif. Could be wrong, but it definitely would've been cool.
They kept a clip of this scene in the trailer. Imagine you're a HUGE Batman fan, you see THIS on the big screen in the Coming Attractions (and/or Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" music video), you suspect it's either Man-Bat or the Bat that inspired Bruce to be Batman, but either way your eyes widen. So eventually, you're ecstatic and go see it. There's a scene where Bruce explains the Giant Bat to Chase, you see a shot of it flying closer to the camera and you go, "Oh, okay, so it's the Inspiration Bat", you're EAGERLY waiting for this scene to come on...then when Batman defeats the Riddler, you see Nygma shrieking at the top of his lungs to...what is obviously the same scene of the Giant Bat approaching. You still hope it shows at the end of the movie. Not even a strand of hair. Finally, the movie ends. You walk out, heavily disappointed and heartbroken that this Giant Bat rarely appears. 10 years go by, and you get the DVD. You find this in the deleted scenes. The Bat is impressive for its time, but it isn't really that impactful. Finally, you watch THIS on RUclips. THERE'S that impacting moment that was missing all those years ago. I may not have been the first part, but when I see this on RUclips... YOU MAKE IT ALL THE MORE HARD-HITTING!
i seriously dont get this... why would they build up ALL this in the final cut... he tells the girl throughout the movie, about his repressed memories of a "red book i found the night of my fathers funeral" he tells her about how it made him cry, but he doesnt remember why, about a large THING coming at him and him falling over but not rememebering what it is... he blames himself for his parents death that night..... and it never goes anywhere... his repressed memories get talked about... but never gets resolved... he never learns about any of this by the end of it...and because of it... he still blames himself... and everything he said about his memories, become literally POINTLESS with no resolve... just another filler scene.... sad because this scene in a way could have SAVED this movie's credibility.... if only because the stuff they DID leave in would be that much more meaningful
THIS IS SCARY AS SHIT!!!!!! ... like the dude write down below.... this is one hell of a scene, back went i was a kid and watch the film , the part of the bat flying toward the camera , was pretty scaring!!!!... and this ...damn!!!! , good scene... you realize how scary a bat can be.... and the red eyes ghghrhgrhg... the chills
Seriously, had these deleted scenes been in the final cut, I guarantee the reception to this film would have been a lot higher. I wanna know who the clueless higher-ups at WB were that trimmed these scenes out. Schumacher has talked about for years of releasing a directors cut of Batman Forever, and if we can get people to speak out about Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League, then surely we can do the same for Schumacher's cut of Batman Forever.
WHY THEY DELETED SCENE THIS MOVIE ?????? I found incredible how (after all I am Brazilian, moreover no Brazilian saw this shocking scene) made it look as good as the Giant Bat (which reminds me of Batman comics) appeared in this film? (Technically, I do not know if he even had a real appearance in a Batman movie). For I found it very good this scene. Joel Shucmacher did remove this scene the day of the release of the movie, these 90's.
Bravo Hawk I hope soon Joel Schumacher and Warner Bros. releases a Darker Cut of Batman Forever with all the deleted scenes and darkness included on final cut.
They really should’ve kept this scene in the movie to be honest with ya. It looks glorifying and it gives more depth through on why Bruce Wayne became Batman in the first place 🖤 At least the Giant Bat can still seen in the flashback scene in the finished film, also it looks very much like Man-Bat to me. I do hope Warner Bros. does release the director’s cut version of ‘Batman Forever’ someday so we can finally see what Joel Schumacher’s intended dark version was for the film. I read he really wanted to make a darker Batman film, but was forced by Warner Bros. to make this and ‘Batman & Robin’ too cheesy, family friendly and look like toy adverts even the 60s Batman show all for stupid merchandising reasons, then he would go on to receive unfair criticism by fans over them for years until his death. x As Warner Bros. has released the Snyder Cut of ‘Justice League’ they should release the Schumacher Cut of ‘Batman Forever’ too #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut R.I.P. Joel Schumacher 💚
I honestly think, this scene along with the dark two-face escape from Arkham was deliberately cut because of fear that Warner Bros. would have had a hissy fit over how dark it is. Basically in case all the whiny parents gave it shit like they did with Batman returns.
Fans are still tweeting to @wbpictures @hbomax @WarnerMedia @WBHomeEnt @ATT @HBOMaxPR @warnerbros to #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut of #BatmanForever. Just to honor Schumacher’s memory. And we should. #HBOMax #BatmanForever25 #JoelSchumacher
It's all bullshit man. I would've loved to have seen this movie with all of the deleted scenes instead of this nerfed shit as a child. It would've been a good definitive batman movie for the younger generation of batman fans. But nope me and countless of other children and teenagers were robbed of a good experience. Thanks editors of this movie...
Also the way he says "I'm Batman" at the end with that smile makes it look like Val Kilmer was really satisfied how he delivered that line so he decided to say it again! I know that's not the case but I can't unsee it! XD
Here's to hoping that the Schumacher Cut will get a release someday. I can already tell that studio control was the main reason this movie didn't get the justice it deserves!
antimkrebirth jingleheimer Warner Bros. wanted the movie to be more kid friendly, so they made sure no scene like this one or same tone as Burton's direction
at that time they thought light tone such as campy Batman is a better market at that time, ironically with the commercial success of Darkknight Trilogy, that's the direction they want to take now for all their DC live action movies
antimkrebirth jingleheimer I don't understand either. This scene is great. It needs to be in there and frankly, the 'kid friendly' argument is nonsense. A lot of Batman stuff is not kid friendly at all, even in the older Batman movies. Remember how Catwoman electrocutes someone? Or how about the Penguin biting the nose? I'm sorry, but quite a few Batman movies have been darker in the past already and judging by the Dark Knight trilogy success they weren't quite dark enough.
This really makes me think of Luke in the Empire Strikes Back when he enters the cave in Dagobah and ends up seeing himself in Darth Vader’s helmet.... I know the context is totally different, but the scene feels pretty similar.
Sorry guys, Kilmer's performance comes off as wooden to me. Not quite "Keanu Reves wooden", thankfully, but just not up to par. Don't get me wrong, had WB not interfered and not listened to all the parents that complained about violence in "kids" movies and videogames during the 90's, I know a director of Joel Schumaker's caliber ("Falling Down", anyone?) as well as an actor of Kilmer's caliber (where do I begin? lol), Kilmer could've given us the best Batman EVER, and Joel could've given us a damn fine sequel to the first 2 (don't forget, Joel had full intentions of continuing the Burton universe, as well as bring back Pfieffer as Catwoman, it was WB who decided to completely revamp the style and tone of the series).
Hey Guys,
Its been a while since I’ve made a Batman Forever related video. I was thinking of editing the whole opening of the film based on the original screenplay. Starting from the Arkham scene, meeting Nygma for the first time, and then leading up to Bruce seeing the signal and suiting up and heading to the bank scene.
Thumbs up if you’d like to see that.
Thanks!
Do it!
James Dean do it man!
That would be amazing!
Do it man!
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After seeing this I kinda feel bad for Joel Schumacher. He wanted to make a legit Batman movie, but the studio was like no we want you to make a toy commercial!😔
Well the studio made some exceptions for him in this movie, the next one after this was a HUGE toy commercial by the studio.
Don't worry. His Cut will be release soon.
Yeah Warner Bros suck ass
It was kind of a big backlash response to Batman Returns. That film was really raunchy and lewd, and parents were upset about how risque a comic book film was. So when it came time for Schumacher to take his turn at bat (pun unintended), the studio wanted a family friendly Batman movie that could sell toys, be advertised at McDonald's, and so on. So he never got to make the movie that he intended originally and just made the best with what was expected of him.
@@TheAzulmagia Don't get it. Kids wanna watch Terminator 2, but they think Batman Returns is scary, what's the ******* difference?!
Bruce: What's in there?
Alfred: Only what you take with you.
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Half expecting a ESB reference. Good on ya.
I think the same thing
It's a grest tribut if you think
Exactly what I was thinking...
it's a common trope though in literature, but yeah, was seriously getting ESB vibes
You know there's probably some creature artiest who spent a lot of time making that giant bat and was pissed that they didn't use it in the final cut.
well in that case no harm done, LOL
lol yeah
RICK BAKER THAT'S IT!
I agree man I would be pissed too if I spent a lot of time and effort to create a bat that didn't even get used in the film they shouldn't have had him create the bat if they weren't gonna use it that's bullshit
batlantern it's man bat
This would explain the scene that the Riddler saw in Bruce Wayne's mind....
For me the scene Riddler saw made sense even without this scene. I just assumed that giant bat thing was what Bruce saw when he was a kid after he fell in that cave or if not actually saw, what he either sees/saw in his dreams or what he imagined to be in that cave after the fall (scared/schocked+dark+bats=over-imaginative mind creating scary images).
This explains why Riddler was screaming his lungs out when Batman was about to apprehended him and it cut to the flying bat scene.
@@lawvere that should replace that little bat with the big of this that way it would never been so cheesy that scene 😗🐇
I always assumed this when I saw that scene
And it would also explain the end scene where the riddler is locked up in prison and a bat shows up and him screaming for his life
"Naaah, let's delete all this subplot, it's too smart!"
But there being a literal giant prosthetic bat is ridiculous.
@@extrano8628 Ah yes, but there's a difference between ridiculous and lacking all meaning..! ;)
@@Slechy_Lesh An orphan who dresses as a bat and fights a man dressed in question marks and another guy half-burned flicking a coin to make decisions is ridiculous.
@@Slechy_Lesh as if the rest of the movies costume decisions weren't......
Batman Forever is a decent film but this scene alone would have made it ten times better.
I agree. I will always like it too but we the fans deserve the Schumacher Cut
And Two-Face's escape from Arkham as the intro and Bruce talking about the Bat chasing him from a memory. #ReleasetheSchumacherCut.
Agreed
It makes the title make more sense
why would you delete the scene that explains the entire point of batman's character arc, this something you have to keep.
The studio
its not like it made any sense to begin with
@@kentallard8852 I don't care what anyone says. This scene is awesome and better than anything else in this shitty movie. It proves that if the studio hadn't forced schumacher to make stupid toy commercials, he could have at least made decent batman movies with some great sequences.
Probs too scary for kids
We need more of Tommy Lee Jones mugging.
I feel bad for Val Kilmer. He could have been a great Batman if he and the script was handled correctly.
Youre feeling bad for nothing the movie was a success still is and they didnt even release the actual cut both the script and movie was handles perfectly people seem to think these batman films are supposed to be iconic and realistic like nolans well news flash this is tim burton and joel shumacher
@AlienBearCat well youre not the top gun star turned batman so honestly cry about it christian bale wasnt an angel on set of terminator salvation either so we can back and forth on this
Your weapons. You will not need them.
Bruce passed right away... Luke failed like an idiot xD
The Maguila ;D ahah
billyboyjennings thats EXACTLY what i was thinking!
does this mean Bruce is now a jedi?
Jonathan Jones That would be the best crossover ever.
Of all the scenes in that movie THEY TOOK THIS ONE OUT??!?
haha basically all of the deleted scenes were moody & well-done, it seems. perplexing & tragic to think what the movie could have been/nearly was.
JoggingOnTheMoon Agreed.
+Apple Lucas Sorry, I know I'm a little late to comment here. What you have to remember about Batman Forever is that Shumacher wanted to make a good Batman film, but the studio wanted him to make a toy commercial. So, Shumacher tried to do both. In response, the studio removed all the scenes that would have made this a decent Batman film and turned it into a bad Batman film.
+Truett Edgell I agree
He even said it. Behind the scenes Warner bros. at that time wanted a family friendly film. Schumacher tried his best like you said to do a Batman film but also pleasing the negative parents audiences that didn't approve Burtons, Batman Returns
They did include this, but only a couple seconds of it. I do think that works better. Like Alien, less is more.
This is the best scene Batman Forever officially never had. Sad! 😔
We need an extended cut of Batman Forever! Dedicate it to Joel Schumacher cause he wanted to tell a Batman story that also had the complexities and drama that Batman faces. This deleted scene says it all!
Unfortunately the higher-ups didn’t wanna get Batman movie they just wanted a toy commercial that sucks
as if it would've made the movie better
@@SwissMarksman There were a bunch of scenes that were cut because the studio thought they were too dark, this whole Bruce Wayne finding himself subplot is one such example, another would be the original opening with Two-Face breaking out of Arkham.
@@kobi7955 and I feel that the two Schumacher Batman movies had their titles mixed up.
This is The most well acted batman/bruce Wayne scene by an actor incredible performance by kilmer The eyes The paine The émotion everything is There
fienga paul Val Kilmer wasn't even a bad Batman, in many cases he was a perfect choice for the character, he can play those dark roles. The original script and ideas were suppose to be dark and very good, Batman Forever was intended to be better than Batman Returns. However their sponsors wanted the next Batan film to be family friendly so they can sell their merchandises and please the parents of sensitive children. It was a decision Joel Schmauker actually regrets as he wanted the movie to be darker.
@@CynderSpirit That is why we the fans deserve and are petioning to get Schumacher's Cut aka The Red Book edition released on Blu Ray and 4K. I am one of these fans. My dad isn't into these kind of movies but when I told him that this film was to be darker and some of the scenes he was stunned and said "Are you kidding me? A comic book movie and comic book movies aren't kid friendly now? and I told him that it's true so after we both watched Batman 1989, Batman Returns, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight and Batman vs Superman Dawn Of Justice The Ultimate Edition he not only liked these movies but he was amazed and said "You know. I am so sorry I doubted you. I may not be into these movies but you're right about these movies not being kid friendly."
Even the late Bob Kane said Kilmer's performance was his favorite one, and here you can see why
Joel Schumacher is a great director, but he was manipulated and bought by the Warner producers so that he would change Batman from movie to movie. How would it have been if Batman Triumphant would have been done? Probably more exaggerated than Batman & Robin.
I really like this scene, the huge bat represents his ultimate fear. It looks so menacing, but when he's no longer afraid he embraces it and it's as if the two are becoming one.
The bat king
Looks like he's meeting Man Bat
Daniel Ryan This is a rumor.
+Daniel Ryan This scene is clearly meant to be metaphoric, so no, no Man-Bat
+Daniel Ryan that is chamala read batman and ull know who he is..
"You should have seen the look on your face when you first met that guy. It's as if you're afraid of you're own reflection."
Idiots is not Manbat
This is the most powerful scene in all the Batmans put together!
Though this wasn't the best (or worst) movie in the series, I agree it's the most impactful.
I know, and its a shame it NEVER made it to the BIG SCREEN.
Batman returns still breaks my heart
No it’s not lol
Too bad we didn't get to see it on the silver screen.
This would really improve the movie.
I agree bro, it would have added so much to it
....How?
lesjconj Conj Because of what it says in the book.
I've watched the scene. How would the contents of a book, seperately existing, now improve that scene?
lesjconj Conj Because that last page says "Bruce insists on going to see a movie tonight. Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce’s cartoons will have to wait until next week." It Tells you two things one If Bruce had not insisted on going to the movie's his parents would still be alive. Causing him to feel responsible. He says and I quote " All my fault". Second that his parents wanted to see Zorro. Wich became his inspiration for donning a costume and fighting crime. Falling down the hole and seeing the bat just gave him the idea for the bat persona.
Honestly, for me this is one of the best scenes from all of the 4 movies. Really, really should not have been cut.
Symbolism at work. Should've kept it in.
Jungian shadow
@@gandalfgrey91 I think it was an homage to TDKR where Bruce sees the manifestation of his anger and thirst for vengeance in the form of a demonic bat creature.
Can't believe this scene ended up on the cutting room floor. This would have been the best scene in the film, and it's not in the final cut. I enjoyed Batman Forever, but I'm glad Warner Brothers' studio interference and obsession with making the series "toyetic" backfired on them when they did Batman and Robin. Shame we still haven't got, and probably won't get, an official Director's Cut for this film yet.
#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
for a haunting memory I've repressed for most of my life, I sure got over it pretty quickly.
The reason this didn't make the cut was because the studio wanted their Batman movies to be as kid friendly as possible following the parental backlash caused by Batman Returns. Joel Schumacher, despite being an otherwise solid director, is a total corporate yes-man, so he just did whatever he was told.
I do have to admit, the Man-Bat thing probably would've scared me as a kid... For about a minute, and then I'd get over it. Still too much for the studio retards who wanted to sell all those Batman Happy Meal mugs.
This shit is quite creepy even for me as an adult. It would give me nightmares as a good. Though, that's not a bad thing...
Shit I'm 28 and this did and still scares the shit out of me
I was four when I saw this in the cinema. Back then the spectral bat image in the final cut of the film was effectively creepy. This thing probably would've been too much for me at first but it wouldn't have driven me away from Batman like somebody at Warner Bros seemed to think it would.
Joel should have stayed well away from Batman
Im a kid and this dont scare me it just look like a bat is scaring the audience and Bruce
Other than the giant bat looking dated even by 1995 standards, I love this scene. Hopefully, WB will put it back in the film someday, along with Two-Face's escape.
No, Fuck off. -WB
Joel Schumacher's Empire Strikes Back
Love it. Such a great and epic scene, why it was cut maybe we'll never know. But I never interpreted it as there being some giant bat in the cave..but it being a projection of Bruce's mind and subconscious. A symbol reminding him of who and what he is. As a child yes he did fall in that cave and saw a bat but due to his young age, emotional state of mind at the time and fear he saw this winged creature as a gigantic monster, which embedded him his mind exactly what he would become...Batman.
Sid Spano Warners shitfucked, "kidfriendly" oriented, moneysucking attitude towards the mythos.
This feels like a spiritual experience, like he's coming face to face with the Holy Ghost, who, instead of appearing as a being of light, arrives like a hideous gargoyle, cloaked in darkness and tragedy, forcing this man to face his fear, to devote his life to crushing evil. Just great stuff.
He Is confronting his inner shadow yeah
Thank you for taking the time and effort to edit and assemble this deleted scene. It adds some more depth and dimension into Bruce Wayne's inner struggle and his final acceptance of embracing the Batman role, and his responsibilities, willingly.
After leaving the cave.
Bruce: "So, I'm Darth Vader?"
Alfred: "What? Oh, damn. You went into the wrong cave."
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I just realized batman forever and batman v superman both used giant bats in both there films
That's because it was in the ultimate edition
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The Batman SAVE MARTHAAAA
@@TheBatman39 how did people hate that? It was my fav part honestly
@@thecircle8568 Perhaps because people felt it was too corny.
For people saying it's man bat, no it's not it's Bruce's inner demon and the bat is never there it's in Bruce's sub conscious even though man bat was hiding in the cave a lot in the comics
You sure?
@@michaelcassy9592 Man-Bat is a scientist that turned himself into a bat, this scene is clearly meant to be an homage to TDKR when Bruce sees the manifestation of his anger in the form of a demonic bat creature.
It's not that either. Earlier in the movie, Bruce mentions to Chase when he fell into a hole that would become the Batcave, he saw this thing flying towards him. By logical comic book thinking, this is most likely the Bat that inspired Bruce to become Batman in the first place.
Imagine if this is *BARBATOS* ???????!
3:18 "And without warning, it comes..." - Batman: Year One
That was scary as shit
For real?
If a bat monster that huge flew up to me my heart would explode from the fear.
Warner Bros. dun goofed by cutting this scene.
Dun goofed making this whole movie
@@grantlockley7926 No, Batman & Robin was a mistake.
@@Adamdow95 Exactly.
While this film has problems, it has nowhere the amount that B&R has.
@@RYMAN1321 sign up for the release of the Director's Cut.
@@Adamdow95 I have
Oh my gooood. This has always been and will forever be my favorite Batman movie, no matter what other Batman movies exist or will be made. And you just showed me footage I've never seen before, thanks man!
Make me really disappointed Man-Bat was never in the movies :-(
isn't man-bat, is bruce's acceptance of fears and guilt
Marks Arias en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-Bat
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There is a deleted scene. Nygma has bruce memory, but also has his fears. which appears as a bat. I know that there is a character equal, but in the movies bruce uses his phobia, fear and humanness to become stronger (to all that give shape bat). another example, Batman- frank miller
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this shit took me time, I hope you understand and read. because I'm Argentine and don't speak much English
Marks Arias I think you are taking me to literal, I'm saying "This makes me wish Man-Bat would have been in the movies." As is Man-Bat along with Harley Quinn had been planned for the next Batman installment that got cancelled (after Batman & Robin).
You did a really good job with this. The music, and sound effects for the Bat are awesome.
WHY DID THEY TAKE THIS SCENE OUT, HOLY FUCK THAT WAS INTENSE
Even though this scene is rather frightful, I do understand it. Seeing that giant bat helped Bruce realize that Batman was a part of him. That he was more than just a guy in a costume doing good deeds. He was a crime fighter, a hero and a mystery all in one. Also, like a bat… he is terrifying to some and yet fascinating to others.
That Giant Bat scares me more tan The Conjuring 1 and 2, seriously
Jesus I hope your ok man
+Awkward Gh0st Those two movies didn't scared me xD This bat did haha
Now we know where Zack Snyder got the idea.
+Eduardo Bonnet I don't remember that one.
John Santos BvS movie when Bruce is having a dream of visiting his parents grave.
honestly, this is an incredible scene
The Man-bat!
And his name is Kirk Langstrom.
What a beautiful scene
Yeah...too bad this was left on the cutting room floor.
In the comics, Bane is born in a prison and is forced to stay in solitary confinement in awful conditions. He meditates and meditates while his in there for over 10 years when his fears finally manifest into a giant bat. He kills the giant bat with a sword. I wished the Nolan take showed Bane's vision. This reminded me of that but kinda the opposite.
Nicely spotted :)
I liked how the Arkham games handled this aspect of Bane's origins, specifically in Arkham Origins where he proclaims that once he kills the Batman he will finally find peace.
This scene Is from The Dark Knight Returns actually
The Dark Knight Returns anybody…?
excactly
The scene where young Bruce falls through the hole in the ground into the cave and sees the bat for the first time was directly taken from TDKR.
Schumacher originally wanted Batman Forever to be an adaptation of TDKR, but the studio declined. This was their compromise with him.
@@maxcarroll9487 plus with Batman year one too about young Bruce Origins become Batman
@@enimursetyo152 That was only briefly considered during Forever's development. Schumacher was really set on an adaptation of TDKR.
This scene was fucking glorious.
People saying shit otherwise don't know jack shit about Batman.
That Bat.
That Totem.
"What's in there?" Only what you take with you.
OMG, i had already saw the original raw footage version of this but your remastered version gave me chills (especially with the soundtrack). If the scene was a little bit longer with some extra more footage, that would have look so epic in the movie...
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Every time I watch the movie I pause it at the right moment to watch this deleted scene because it shouldn't have been cut out. It shows Bruce is running away from his fear his whole life & is now embracing his fear right there, choosing to be Batman Forever. You know the meaning for the title of the movie
"Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce's cartoon will have to wait until next week."
Honestly the scene serves as the perfect translation for this Bruce going from brutal vigilante to the hero Gotham deserves I wish this was kept
That giant bat is awesome, I love it.
Jack/The Joker brought some horrible fear and trauma to the surface for Bruce when he killed his parents in the first film...then to top it all off, he has to live with the guilt that even though he avenged his parents death, he also has to live the rest of his life knowing “he took a life.” Very symbolic indeed considering the bat cave and the dark surroundings turned him insane leading to his duality as “Batman”. Joker always knew how to push the right buttons...I’d lose my sanity too. In his mind, the only way he could find any shred of peace within himself now is to embrace the new “dark gritty traumatic” side of his personality that Joker planted in him, and that’s embracing being Batman. Chase understood this...Vale and Selina did not.
Good job putting this together. I especially liked the faint echo of the gunfire in the background 👍🏻
Two halves coming together. The man and the bat. Somewhat poetic
So here we have the patient zero of covid-19, thank u Bruce...
hahahahahah damn!
Good one! ✌️😂👍
Probablemente una de las escenas más poderosas de todo el universo cinematográfico de Batman, fue eliminada??! No lo puedo creer!.
La mojigatería jodiendo y porculeando desde los albores
It reminds me of when Luke visited the cave in The Empire Strikes back. I think it was a great scene part of it should be in the movie.
this was my favorite deleted scene he finally goes face to face with the one who gave him his gift now they are one and some of you guys think its manbat but in the game arkham origins alfred calls him king bat
This movie needs a director’s cut
This reminds me a lot of the cave scene from Empire Strikes Back.
This is why the movie is called Batman Forever
"Oh shit I forgot to tell him Doctor Langstrom is crashing here tonight"
They should have kept this scene in the movie
Batman Forever was a great film, but there was a couple of deleted scenes that should've been kept in like this one and Two-Face's escape from Arkham intro.
Imagine Michael Keaton doing this scene as part of Tim Burton's third film... like this could've been one of Scarecrow's fear gas nightmare illusions.
Scarecrow wasn't meant to be in Batman 3 as far as i know, the villains were still meant to be Riddler and Two-Face played by Robin Williams and Billy Dee Williams respectively.
@@kobi7955 Rumors are rumors, but I remember hearing a rumor that Scarecrow was going to be in it as well and that he was going to be played by Brad Dourif. Could be wrong, but it definitely would've been cool.
@@KingdomHeartsBrawlerscarecrow being played by Chucky/Grima would’ve been such. A good choice.
They kept a clip of this scene in the trailer. Imagine you're a HUGE Batman fan, you see THIS on the big screen in the Coming Attractions (and/or Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" music video), you suspect it's either Man-Bat or the Bat that inspired Bruce to be Batman, but either way your eyes widen. So eventually, you're ecstatic and go see it. There's a scene where Bruce explains the Giant Bat to Chase, you see a shot of it flying closer to the camera and you go, "Oh, okay, so it's the Inspiration Bat", you're EAGERLY waiting for this scene to come on...then when Batman defeats the Riddler, you see Nygma shrieking at the top of his lungs to...what is obviously the same scene of the Giant Bat approaching. You still hope it shows at the end of the movie. Not even a strand of hair. Finally, the movie ends. You walk out, heavily disappointed and heartbroken that this Giant Bat rarely appears. 10 years go by, and you get the DVD. You find this in the deleted scenes. The Bat is impressive for its time, but it isn't really that impactful. Finally, you watch THIS on RUclips. THERE'S that impacting moment that was missing all those years ago. I may not have been the first part, but when I see this on RUclips... YOU MAKE IT ALL THE MORE HARD-HITTING!
i seriously dont get this... why would they build up ALL this in the final cut... he tells the girl throughout the movie, about his repressed memories of a "red book i found the night of my fathers funeral" he tells her about how it made him cry, but he doesnt remember why, about a large THING coming at him and him falling over but not rememebering what it is... he blames himself for his parents death that night..... and it never goes anywhere... his repressed memories get talked about... but never gets resolved... he never learns about any of this by the end of it...and because of it... he still blames himself... and everything he said about his memories, become literally POINTLESS with no resolve... just another filler scene.... sad because this scene in a way could have SAVED this movie's credibility.... if only because the stuff they DID leave in would be that much more meaningful
I 100% AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT !!
THIS IS SCARY AS SHIT!!!!!! ... like the dude write down below.... this is one hell of a scene, back went i was a kid and watch the film , the part of the bat flying toward the camera , was pretty scaring!!!!... and this ...damn!!!! , good scene... you realize how scary a bat can be.... and the red eyes ghghrhgrhg... the chills
Hence why batman came to be.
Seriously, had these deleted scenes been in the final cut, I guarantee the reception to this film would have been a lot higher. I wanna know who the clueless higher-ups at WB were that trimmed these scenes out. Schumacher has talked about for years of releasing a directors cut of Batman Forever, and if we can get people to speak out about Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League, then surely we can do the same for Schumacher's cut of Batman Forever.
WHY THEY DELETED SCENE THIS MOVIE ?????? I found incredible how (after all I am Brazilian, moreover no Brazilian saw this shocking scene) made it look as good as the Giant Bat (which reminds me of Batman comics) appeared in this film? (Technically, I do not know if he even had a real appearance in a Batman movie). For I found it very good this scene. Joel Shucmacher did remove this scene the day of the release of the movie, these 90's.
Bravo Hawk i'm brazillian too :D
Bravo Hawk I hope soon Joel Schumacher and Warner Bros. releases a Darker Cut of Batman Forever with all the deleted scenes and darkness included on final cut.
Bravo Hawk We are all brazilians!!!
+Victor Hugo Carballo I'm not!
+David Amis in the name of the brazilian people i now proclaim Mister David Amis a brazilian citizen.
They really should’ve kept this scene in the movie to be honest with ya. It looks glorifying and it gives more depth through on why Bruce Wayne became Batman in the first place 🖤 At least the Giant Bat can still seen in the flashback scene in the finished film, also it looks very much like Man-Bat to me.
I do hope Warner Bros. does release the director’s cut version of ‘Batman Forever’ someday so we can finally see what Joel Schumacher’s intended dark version was for the film. I read he really wanted to make a darker Batman film, but was forced by Warner Bros. to make this and ‘Batman & Robin’ too cheesy, family friendly and look like toy adverts even the 60s Batman show all for stupid merchandising reasons, then he would go on to receive unfair criticism by fans over them for years until his death. x
As Warner Bros. has released the Snyder Cut of ‘Justice League’ they should release the Schumacher Cut of ‘Batman Forever’ too #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
R.I.P. Joel Schumacher 💚
this scene is good, they should not have deleted it
0:33 Alfred channelling his inner yoda "that place strong in the dark side it is in you must go" what's in there " only what you take with you"
Bruce: "What's in there?"
Alfred: "Only what you take with you sir."
Wow...this is so brilliant! I love this so so MUCH! This is beyond EPIC!
I honestly think, this scene along with the dark two-face escape from Arkham was deliberately cut because of fear that Warner Bros. would have had a hissy fit over how dark it is. Basically in case all the whiny parents gave it shit like they did with Batman returns.
I have to be honest, I love this scene!
Fans are still tweeting to @wbpictures @hbomax @WarnerMedia @WBHomeEnt @ATT @HBOMaxPR @warnerbros to #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut of #BatmanForever. Just to honor Schumacher’s memory. And we should. #HBOMax #BatmanForever25 #JoelSchumacher
This is very Schumacher.. and I think it's great.
1 word describes this scene beastiality
"What the hell Alfred, How long have been hinding that journal in there. And way have'nt you called the pest control on that huge ass bat?"
It's all bullshit man. I would've loved to have seen this movie with all of the deleted scenes instead of this nerfed shit as a child. It would've been a good definitive batman movie for the younger generation of batman fans. But nope me and countless of other children and teenagers were robbed of a good experience. Thanks editors of this movie...
Also the way he says "I'm Batman" at the end with that smile makes it look like Val Kilmer was really satisfied how he delivered that line so he decided to say it again! I know that's not the case but I can't unsee it! XD
How and why was this scene deleted?! Might of been a top 10 Batman scene of all time!
Here's to hoping that the Schumacher Cut will get a release someday. I can already tell that studio control was the main reason this movie didn't get the justice it deserves!
Maravilloso.
#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
Batman forever is a peculiar but brilliant starting point for a youtube channel!
Cheers mate!
From Arizona!
#releasetheschumachercut
Yousef thank you for bringing this deleted scenes together. BT4E is by far my favorite of the 90’s films
why the fuck would they delete this scene... they didn't want the movie to be unique and interesting??? lol wtf
Actually ,the whole movie should have been reboot lol
antimkrebirth jingleheimer Warner Bros. wanted the movie to be more kid friendly, so they made sure no scene like this one or same tone as Burton's direction
wb saying nonsense lol^
at that time they thought light tone such as campy Batman is a better market at that time, ironically with the commercial success of Darkknight Trilogy, that's the direction they want to take now for all their DC live action movies
antimkrebirth jingleheimer I don't understand either. This scene is great. It needs to be in there and frankly, the 'kid friendly' argument is nonsense. A lot of Batman stuff is not kid friendly at all, even in the older Batman movies. Remember how Catwoman electrocutes someone? Or how about the Penguin biting the nose? I'm sorry, but quite a few Batman movies have been darker in the past already and judging by the Dark Knight trilogy success they weren't quite dark enough.
The most beautiful scene of the movie has been cut for babies
So many scenes were cut from this movie wtf I've been cheated
This really makes me think of Luke in the Empire Strikes Back when he enters the cave in Dagobah and ends up seeing himself in Darth Vader’s helmet.... I know the context is totally different, but the scene feels pretty similar.
Sorry guys, Kilmer's performance comes off as wooden to me. Not quite "Keanu Reves wooden", thankfully, but just not up to par. Don't get me wrong, had WB not interfered and not listened to all the parents that complained about violence in "kids" movies and videogames during the 90's, I know a director of Joel Schumaker's caliber ("Falling Down", anyone?) as well as an actor of Kilmer's caliber (where do I begin? lol), Kilmer could've given us the best Batman EVER, and Joel could've given us a damn fine sequel to the first 2 (don't forget, Joel had full intentions of continuing the Burton universe, as well as bring back Pfieffer as Catwoman, it was WB who decided to completely revamp the style and tone of the series).
He wanted to do Year One as well but this wasn't bad in opinion its my favorite in the Burton/Schumacher films.
I really like the sound of your idea, it sounds like it would be an interesting spin on Batman.
Epic Scene... 🔴⚫️🐬🦈
this is so creepy but it literaliy makes the movie feel so much better and besides this would balance the camp
Omg was that man bat
NO that's Bruce's mind
It's Bruce's inner demon and motive