Batman Forever Original Dark Opening

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  • Опубликовано: 18 май 2010
  • *THIS IS FAN MADE*
    [ THIS IS A NON-PROFIT VIDEO MADE PURELY FOR FUN ]
    This is a deleted scene from the opening of Batman Forever. The studio decided to deleted the most scenes that made sense to why Batman is “Forever”. This being on of the scenes.
    [ Note: I did this video a few years back when I was younger, so please excuse the spelling mistakes. ]
    Enjoy !
    #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
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    Footage From:
    ©WARNER BROS.
    Batman Forever
    Music From:
    ©WARNER BROS.
    Batman Returns
    ©WARNER BROS.
    Batman
    [ I DO NOT OWN THE MUSIC AND FOOTAGE OF THIS VIDEO NOR AM I TAKING CREDIT FOR IT ]
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  • @YousefAlMujeem
    @YousefAlMujeem  3 года назад +164

    Please excuse the spelling mistakes. English isn’t my first language. I originally edited this video a really long time ago. Way before 2010, much when I was younger.

    • @davidaston5773
      @davidaston5773 3 года назад +1

      At least your spelling had a good reason... film executives and suits don't have a clue. They can't speak any language except profits, ignoring creative people thinking they know better (as with above) and these days (as with everything) image and style over objectivity. And of the audience MUST be idiots...

    • @spiderpig9777
      @spiderpig9777 3 года назад

      it's okay, most viewers are not english or american

  • @YnotNomis
    @YnotNomis 4 года назад +84

    This movie needs a Directors cut so bad!

    • @manlymen552
      @manlymen552 2 года назад +4

      Definitely man I feel cheated

    • @nicklander3301
      @nicklander3301 10 месяцев назад +2

      They recently screened the Schumacher cut to some folks such as Kevin Smith.
      There might still be hope

  • @FlavioMarceloSousa35
    @FlavioMarceloSousa35 3 года назад +216

    It's a crime that WB didn't allow Tim Burton to complete his trilogy.

    • @thenoirknight5729
      @thenoirknight5729 3 года назад +12

      Batman Continues would have been epic. I really do wonder what type of training Burtonverse Bruce Wayne went through

    • @Ian-hj4yt
      @Ian-hj4yt 3 года назад +5

      *Quadrilogy

    • @passionatetechnology8306
      @passionatetechnology8306 3 года назад +9

      Burton didn’t want to make any more Batman movies. The real shame is that all of Schumachers movie wasn’t shown with Bruce’s reasoning for being Batman at the center of the movie. Val Kilmer is great

    • @bullymaguire513
      @bullymaguire513 3 года назад +6

      @@Ian-hj4yt actually WB said that the Schumacherverse and the Burtonverse are not connected. They're different universes. RIGHT NOW they are working on a comics series that continues the Burton movies, with keaton's batman suit and the birth of an afro robin.

    • @Ian-hj4yt
      @Ian-hj4yt 3 года назад +1

      @@bullymaguire513 Yeah, i'm hyped for it too.

  • @dragonball_z1373
    @dragonball_z1373 3 года назад +32

    Watching this movie, it’s easy to forget that Schumacher directed The Lost Boys, and sad to remember that he wanted this to be an adaptation of Batman: Year One

  • @anonymouslyunknown4811
    @anonymouslyunknown4811 2 года назад +16

    Batman forever is so underrated imo, I really hope we see a director's cut one day

  • @eriknelson7077
    @eriknelson7077 5 лет назад +88

    Dr. Burton referring Two Face as Harvey actually felt kind of sad. We knew that Harvey Dent was a good man but was forced into a situation that made him turn. Also that “Hell’s in here” line was pure genius.

  • @thedrewdog
    @thedrewdog 8 лет назад +98

    What a good start to what could have been a dark, yet entertaining Batman film. The minute Tommy Lee Jones says "Fortune smiles" and channels a family friendly version of Warden Dwight McClusky, the film plummets.

    • @GenGamesUniverse
      @GenGamesUniverse 4 года назад +10

      That was supposed to be in there, he was being sarcastic about it hence why he snarls "Live bait to catch a bat!" afterwards.

  • @SuperJumpReviews
    @SuperJumpReviews 10 лет назад +604

    no lie, this is a pretty badass opening.

    • @thewewguy8t88
      @thewewguy8t88 4 года назад +12

      it clearly needs a lot of work.

    • @michaelcarranza24
      @michaelcarranza24 4 года назад +1

      @@thewewguy8t88 like the spelling?

    • @dashconsigliere686
      @dashconsigliere686 3 года назад +5

      completely changes the tone of the movie ...

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 3 года назад +9

      @Razh 80 Indeed, plus, my enormous respect on him for apologizing for B&R. That's something you don't get to see with many directors nowadays

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 3 года назад

      Hammy as fuck though, not to mention badly shot - most of Alien is more watchable.

  • @King01Ryan
    @King01Ryan 10 лет назад +1150

    Watch the deleted scenes and watch this. Schumacher wanted a dark Batman movie, with a big comic book touch,
    But WB said, they have to sale BATMAN toys. :(
    PS: Val Kilmer was a cool Bruce Wayne and Batman.

    • @victoriadixon5521
      @victoriadixon5521 7 лет назад +34

      King01Ryan shumacher said "why does everything have to be so dark"

    • @RShadow12
      @RShadow12 5 лет назад +73

      Victoria Dixon He only said that cause WB wanted him to. The poor man was robbed of his own movie

    • @gamersinacontainer
      @gamersinacontainer 5 лет назад +27

      I used to hate Shumacher until now.

    • @knytrydr73
      @knytrydr73 4 года назад +5

      That's what cartoons are for! LOL

    • @bradenhogan2
      @bradenhogan2 4 года назад +15

      lol no, WB fired BURTON because HE wasn’t child-friendly enough. Schumacher was offered the job specifically to do what he did, and he had no problem doing it.

  • @velociraptor4you3291
    @velociraptor4you3291 10 лет назад +351

    Man, makes you wonder, why WASN'T this opening used? It really develops Two-Face even more as the duality-obsessed psychopath that he is and his hatred for Batman with "The Bat Must Die" scrawled on the wall of his Arkham cell in BLOOD.
    Still, I can't really complain with this movie's opening being the way it is. I grew up watching this as a kid, and for me, it's THE movie that introduced me to the Dark Knight!

  • @unfazedreview3000
    @unfazedreview3000 3 года назад +5

    Release the Schumacher cut WB. You'll make money. Even give it a limited theatrical release!! The nostalgic 90s kids will pay to see this!!!

  • @GManJR75
    @GManJR75 6 лет назад +34

    That first part with Two-Face and his creepy monologue to the guard. It shows that in a different, darker Batman film he would have been a very good and very intimidating Two-Face. Also with better, slightly more realistic make up.

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow 4 года назад +138

    the beginning of his monologue felt like Harvey, it felt like Two Face. Lamenting the random nature of life, of justice. Disillusioned by it all, devoted to the coin flip that seemingly dictates all life. then he started cackling and ruined the moment. I wish we got the first half as the actual two face in the movie and not the joker knock off we got. Tommy could have killed it in that performance.

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    • @djohn4904
      @djohn4904 3 года назад +1

      No country for old men.... weird ; traded coin flipping villain role for sheriff.. neat

    • @BarterTom
      @BarterTom 3 года назад +2

      I loved that line “Fortune smiles, another day of wine and roses”. It’s a reference to one of my favourite poems.

  • @MilesVideos10000
    @MilesVideos10000 10 лет назад +413

    I wish Burton could've made another really dark Batman film, especially after the awesome Batman Returns. You did a really good job of replicating what it could've been like.

    • @pooooo52
      @pooooo52 4 года назад +15

      @@kaicreech7336 no. It Better then Batman and Robin

    • @kaicreech7336
      @kaicreech7336 4 года назад +3

      @@pooooo52
      That's a low bar.

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 3 года назад +8

      @@Patronic27Productions Maybe youre right but you must not read the comics Burton had something going on but the studios wanted a kids movie.

    • @rustyshackleford1040
      @rustyshackleford1040 3 года назад +1

      A Burtonverse Batman Beyond would be dope.

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 3 года назад +1

      @@rustyshackleford1040 Probably, but Burton doesn't give one flying dime about Batman anymore, heck, he doesn't even like his own first Batman movie

  • @petersecosh7993
    @petersecosh7993 4 года назад +207

    This is before they added the silly Alfred, "shall I pack a sandwich?" line.

    • @Schwartzbruder1
      @Schwartzbruder1 4 года назад +32

      Its crazy. That was solely in the movie because of a McDonald's commercial

    • @MrRolyat98
      @MrRolyat98 4 года назад +7

      Schwartzbruder1 I’m sure it wasn’t free. Lol.

    • @othyization
      @othyization 4 года назад +26

      "Can I persuade you to take a sandwich with you, sir?
      I'll get drive-through."
      Always wanted to see the deleted scene of Batman at the McDonalds drive-thru.

    • @Htownblokhedz
      @Htownblokhedz 3 года назад +16

      I'll get drive thru then park my batmobile in chase meridians cave

    • @jeremywoods770
      @jeremywoods770 3 года назад +4

      He paid for his drive thru happy meal with his Bat-Visa. Never leave home without it.

  • @ravemaestro7398
    @ravemaestro7398 3 года назад +12

    Ah man wtf! Now I feel for Schumacher, this was great. Anytime a directors vision is tarnished by studios it makes me cry

  • @TheVladMan.
    @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +608

    The Donner Cut of Superman II. ✅
    The Snyder Cut of Justice League. ✅
    The Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad.
    The Schumacher Cut of Batman Forever.
    Two down, two to go.

    • @mr.awesomereacts2533
      @mr.awesomereacts2533 4 года назад +36

      The Ayer Cut is more probable than the Schumacher cut.

    • @TheVladMan.
      @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +14

      Mr.awesome Reacts - Fingers crossed they announce it at DC FanDome.

    • @mr.awesomereacts2533
      @mr.awesomereacts2533 4 года назад +8

      Vladimir Manosalvas IG: TheVladMan It could be but with the Schumacher cut it will be more complicated to get out since it was made so long ago.

    • @TheVladMan.
      @TheVladMan. 4 года назад +8

      Mr.awesome Reacts - And according to them, they’re not even sure if the Batman Forever footage’s still in the Warner Brothers vault.

    • @matrixman117edits7
      @matrixman117edits7 4 года назад +11

      I would go watch the Batman: Forever Red Book Edition. It edits in the deleted scenes, including this one, and improves the overall tone of the film.

  • @gameking8809
    @gameking8809 10 лет назад +457

    While the original version would have clearly been better, I think Forever is not a horrible film at all, just some scenes are silly, but others do well.

    • @thewewguy8t88
      @thewewguy8t88 4 года назад +9

      i think forever is a very promblimatic movie but i also think returns is problimatic infact i would say batman is problimatic but its more like its just batman doing the batman thing and jack nikcolosion running around like he is the joker when its just really jack

    • @Memnoch_the_Devil
      @Memnoch_the_Devil 4 года назад +20

      Favorite move when I was a kid, introduced me to Val Kilmer and Nicole Kidman. But even as an adult, I still love the aesthetic of this movie. But as a personal preference I would have liked the dialogue and action to reflect that dark gritty, neon aesthetic

    • @rickfrombohemia9550
      @rickfrombohemia9550 3 года назад +12

      @@Memnoch_the_Devil Yeah, I love both Burton's noir and Schumacher's cyberpunk vision of Gotham. It really looks like a comics set in motion, unlike with Nolan.

    • @thea-holegamerandfriends6754
      @thea-holegamerandfriends6754 3 года назад +6

      This is one of my favorite Batman movies to watch when I don't want to watch a Batman movie that's too serious

    • @rickfrombohemia9550
      @rickfrombohemia9550 3 года назад +6

      @Championship Boxing Why must be everything superclever and serious now? After all, it's just a saga about a rich guy running around in a batsuit and chasing other costume freaks, I don't expect much deep philosophy from that.

  • @blairbrown4812
    @blairbrown4812 4 года назад +30

    What's truly sad is that with the passing of Rene Auberjonois, we have been forever denied what may have been a masterful depiction of Jonathan Crane, aka the Scarecrow.

    • @Zoloft77
      @Zoloft77 3 года назад

      That's Odo!!!!

    • @lucasgomez0721
      @lucasgomez0721 2 года назад +2

      This. I know that in this film he's called Dr. Burton as a homage to Tim, but it would've have been so cool if they decided to name him Dr. Crane instead

    • @rebajoe
      @rebajoe 2 года назад

      @@lucasgomez0721 according to Nostalgia Critics Fanscription version of this they wanted Brad Dourif(Chucky) to play Jonathan Crane and to be in the movie.

  • @mjwhiteglove2723
    @mjwhiteglove2723 4 года назад +161

    RIP Joel Schumacher

    • @pooooo52
      @pooooo52 4 года назад +1

      Who was Joel

    • @mjwhiteglove2723
      @mjwhiteglove2723 4 года назад +2

      Daniel Zimmer You don’t know Joel Schumacher? Why, he was the director, of course....

    • @JohnnyDollar720
      @JohnnyDollar720 3 года назад +4

      Bruh, he died?

    • @Mrdevon3711
      @Mrdevon3711 3 года назад +3

      So now a directors cut is very unlikely at this point.

    • @nathancruz9172
      @nathancruz9172 3 года назад +1

      3:12-3:15, 3:18-3:25 I really missed him so much.

  • @brucewayne-ej3cx
    @brucewayne-ej3cx 3 года назад +35

    This is gonna sound crazy. But there exists a shumaker cut. That WB turned down he was told to lighten the movie up. The rest is history. We've been too hard on him. Rip.

    • @Phoenixesper1
      @Phoenixesper1 3 года назад +2

      On forever, Maybe..... there is no forgiveness for batman and robin though. Bat credit card.

    • @brucewayne-ej3cx
      @brucewayne-ej3cx 3 года назад +3

      @@Phoenixesper1 agreed

  • @tavernadodevilhunter6732
    @tavernadodevilhunter6732 3 года назад +44

    "we gonna create, a cool batman movie, with action and dark tone WB: hold right there i want sell toys, so no violence and no dark theme like the another two movies."

  • @matthewbradley-flackett1542
    @matthewbradley-flackett1542 9 лет назад +59

    This movie could have been amazing

  • @CartoonManWhoo
    @CartoonManWhoo 3 года назад +5

    whoever cut this together needs to make a Dark Batman Forever full cut.

  • @aperson2943
    @aperson2943 3 года назад +7

    Underrated Batman film. Excellent cinematography, sets, costumes, practical FX, and if they kept some of the darkness, and toned down the goofiness a bit it would be considered a classic.

  • @jasonjayawardena8512
    @jasonjayawardena8512 3 года назад +14

    If only it was like how Joel Schumacher wanted it. Let's forgive him for how his two batman films went. He done want the studio wanted as they wanted to make it child friendly and sell toys. If anyone says bad things about his work watch the lost boys and phone booth which I think are good films he made

  • @buffyoda3420
    @buffyoda3420 4 года назад +16

    Original movie: This
    The version we got: *I’ll get drive thru*

  • @BarterTom
    @BarterTom 3 года назад +10

    At first I was like “Is that Hugo Strange?” then I thought “No he’s far too pathetic.”

  • @patrickbarnes9462
    @patrickbarnes9462 11 лет назад +39

    Kewl alternate opening.
    Thank you for no Bat-Butt shot.
    A part of me would still have loved to see Billy Dee Williams's take on Two-Face. Tommy Lee Jones just cut loose here...

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 4 года назад +4

      The original film didn't have an ass shot in _that_ scene.

    • @DamienDrake
      @DamienDrake 3 года назад

      Billy Dee Williams was screwed. He would've been great, but I wouldn't wish this incarnation of Two-Face on anyone.

  • @27ShowStopper
    @27ShowStopper 10 лет назад +83

    Wayyyyy better intro than what we got. Stupid WB. This movie is no masterpiece but it is enjoyable if you take it for what it is. Batman & Robin is the only unwatchable Batman film and that includes the Adam West film (which I actually love).

    • @Ian-hj4yt
      @Ian-hj4yt 3 года назад +1

      Nope, it's bad.

    • @ralphroshia9247
      @ralphroshia9247 3 года назад +2

      Most People would agree with you about Batman & Robin except for people who enjoy a movie that's so stupid its funny like me I can enjoy a movie like that movies like Plan 9 From Outer Space Santa Claus Conquers the Martians Superman 4 The Quest for Peace and of course Batman & Robin movies that I can turn of my brain sit back and laugh

    • @thenoirknight5729
      @thenoirknight5729 3 года назад +1

      Being real, people sleep on the Adam West Batman movie and TV Show. Just excuse it from being on any ranking or list just because it's "campy". It's genuinely a great movie and a great piece of the Silver Age of DC Comic Books

  • @redstreak9430
    @redstreak9430 4 года назад +98

    I liked Forever but this proves that the movie could have been on par with the first two if it wasn’t for the restrictions WB placed on them.

    • @rockinrecords4081
      @rockinrecords4081 3 года назад +7

      And now it’s 2020 and WB still hasn’t learned

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 3 года назад +6

      @@rockinrecords4081 And they really never will. If there's anything I learned legitimately from Teen Titans Go and The Lego Batman Movie, is that WB couldn't care less about whatever they do with DC. They would just rather make fun of their own movies in a self-deprecating manner, almost offensive to a degree, rather than making good movies for the fans and respecting their filmmakers vision. And that toxic environment of WB cutting stuff hasn't even stopped with their other movies as well.

  • @lazyrmc
    @lazyrmc 3 года назад +5

    Wow, this opening actually feels like a movie

  • @Daniel-zp2pi
    @Daniel-zp2pi 8 лет назад +369

    Whoa, that was dark....

  • @Jones183
    @Jones183 4 года назад +7

    And this right here proves that Joel actually wanted to make a good batman movie if this was actually real.

  • @jannyherrera4460
    @jannyherrera4460 3 года назад +2

    With the Batman and Batman Return’s Score sounds amazing after all.🖐🏻😎👇👇👍👉🏻👍

  • @duowest642
    @duowest642 3 года назад +4

    I noticed that you used the end music from Batman 89 for Batman's introduction in this scene. Nice!

  • @Xanatos21
    @Xanatos21 9 лет назад +71

    They should have kept this opening in the final cut of the movie. Also, after it shows the "Batman Forever" logo, they should have used the original Danny Elfman Batman opening theme that they used in the first two Tim Burton films (accompanied by the opening credits) and THEN cut to Two-Face flipping his coin.

    • @GenGamesUniverse
      @GenGamesUniverse 4 года назад +6

      A lot of scenes were actually cut from the film or shortened altogether. One particular scene is when Bruce is shot in the head by Dent, originally, Bruce would have suffered amnesia with Dent and Nigma running amuck in Gotham City, with Alfred trying to get Bruce's memories back and he finally does when he shows Bruce the exact Batcave that Bruce fell into as a child during his parents' funeral which would have cut to Alfred and Bruce going into the destroyed Batcave and then Bruce donning the 2nd "prototype" batsuit.

    • @acon2253
      @acon2253 4 года назад +2

      @@GenGamesUniverse Hi, here is a link to the petition for the release of the director's cut of Batman Forever:
      www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-release-the-director-s-cut-of-batman-forever
      After you sign the petition send it on to as many people as possible and tell them to also send it to as many people as possible. Thanks.

    • @Merdicano
      @Merdicano 3 года назад +1

      @@GenGamesUniverse There's also a scene going around the web of Bruce standing in front of a giant bat creature

  • @SpideryFan6
    @SpideryFan6 3 года назад +1

    Wow even the music is eerie. It's the same score to Batman Returns. It's so much better

  • @misternikeair7372
    @misternikeair7372 4 года назад +1

    The music from BATMAN RETURNS... TOP NOTCH 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @macsh6434
    @macsh6434 3 года назад +5

    I hope they bring back Tim Burton and Danny Elfman for the Michael Keaton scenes in Flashpoint. 🦇

  • @antoniovaldespino6650
    @antoniovaldespino6650 3 года назад +4

    Now that all of this unseen footage is coming out, we realize that Joel Schumacher had a darker vision for the film and the ones who screwed it up were the Warner executives.

  • @xxMisterJxx
    @xxMisterJxx 3 года назад +2

    Tommy was the most legit choice to play Dent in the 90s. He even looked like Dent. It’s too bad that turned him into some circus clown when very few actual Two Face moments in between.

  • @RLJmusic4life
    @RLJmusic4life 3 года назад +1

    You simply cannot be an evil goon unless you have neon lighting on your machine guns.

  • @gamemediafan1714
    @gamemediafan1714 3 года назад +2

    Everybody kinda seems to forget the fact that Schumacher only directed these films and didn't write them. That's why there's so much bad corny dialogue and campy bullshit.
    Schumacher actually expressed wanting to do something somewhat darker. Not as much as Burton, but still something serious enough for people to accept. He wanted to do a Batman Year one adaptation that would be a prequel to Burton's films, but the studio said it had to be a sequel.
    After Batman and Robin, Schumacher wanted to work on a film called Batman Unchained, which would've been a darker story that would've had Harley Quinn and Scarecrow trying to drive Batman insane. But the studio said no.
    Schumacher wasn't a perfect director, but he has done good stuff. Watch Lost Boys or Falling Down. Both are good movies cause the writers of those films were actually good at their job. These Batman movies.... no. Just shitty writers. And because of that, Schumacher basically had his reputation destroyed by WB. That's how Hollywood works: the studio tries to control the film, and when it bombs, the director/writers take the fall.

  • @jameskit
    @jameskit 13 лет назад +5

    Spot on in my opinion, you added the music perfectly and it even went well over the dialogue.

  • @EOSProductions394
    @EOSProductions394 4 года назад +1

    This is a much better opening than we got

  • @GetToDaChoppa-k5r
    @GetToDaChoppa-k5r 9 лет назад +22

    If only Batman Forever was a Tim Burton film, but stupid audience members at the time moaned about how dark Batman Returns was, and we ended up with the Schumacher years. I still mourn the loss of a third Batman film made with Tim and Michael Keaton.

    • @stardust1289
      @stardust1289 6 лет назад

      What make me even more upset is that there could be a parallel universe with with batman continues.

    • @GenGamesUniverse
      @GenGamesUniverse 4 года назад

      Actually it wasn't audience members, it was the tabloids and the film reviewers like Ebert and Siskel gave negative reviews of Batman Returns, so WB sacked Burton but gave him the option to change it to Schumacher.

    • @chrispeplinski7306
      @chrispeplinski7306 4 года назад

      Michael Keaton was even offered 30 million to return in forever but didn't like the script and how batmam was sidelined.

    • @JHParee
      @JHParee 3 года назад

      Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face. That is all.

    • @Amigation-if9ds
      @Amigation-if9ds Год назад

      Tim Burton dislikes the title Batman Forever.

  • @Fettman69
    @Fettman69 13 лет назад +5

    That was one of the best editing jobs I've ever seen.

  • @alwaysxnever
    @alwaysxnever 4 года назад +9

    I wish that the Harvey that we got in this monologue was what we got for the entire film. Makes watching Forever harder every time.

  • @franklinwatrel1933
    @franklinwatrel1933 10 лет назад +12

    I love the music in this scene.

    • @laelenistica9666
      @laelenistica9666 6 лет назад +1

      Count Dracula Is the music of Batman '89 and Batman Returns composite by Danny Elfman

    • @acon2253
      @acon2253 4 года назад +1

      @@laelenistica9666 Hi, here is a link to the petition for the release of the director's cut of Batman Forever:
      www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-release-the-director-s-cut-of-batman-forever
      After you sign the petition send it on to as many people as possible and tell them to also send it to as many people as possible. Thanks.

  • @alexdarko2217
    @alexdarko2217 4 года назад +2

    Danny Elfman’s Batman theme is forever the best Batman theme!

  • @chelseaheineman4620
    @chelseaheineman4620 4 года назад +2

    I love Batman Forever a lot, but I agree that it would be a lot better if they did the beginning like that.

  • @25DoubleDare
    @25DoubleDare 3 года назад +3

    Holy shit! This opening is amazing! This new cut looks promising.

  • @williamcrowe2576
    @williamcrowe2576 4 года назад +1

    Somehow the Arkham Asylum prologue did make its way into the U2 music video "Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me". Or rather Twoface's message did.

  • @vezner
    @vezner 4 года назад +3

    I miss Batman and Batman Returns especially. They were great movies!

    • @spudvala
      @spudvala 4 года назад +2

      Miss them? You do realise you can still watch them right?

    • @HollywoodJonathan
      @HollywoodJonathan 3 года назад +2

      Spud Vala lmao @ this comment

    • @BJenno
      @BJenno 2 года назад

      First one was great. Returns was horrible

    • @thedestroyer2alltrolls411
      @thedestroyer2alltrolls411 2 года назад

      @@BJenno Nope, Returns was good.

  • @LordMalice6d9
    @LordMalice6d9 12 лет назад +1

    From what I've heard batman Forever was originally going to be much darker than it ended up being.

  • @baumer2504
    @baumer2504 4 года назад +19

    Doesn't help Tommy Lee Jones was playing Two Face like the Joker.

    • @pooooo52
      @pooooo52 4 года назад

      Still wonder Michael k being the joker not being Batman.nothing wrong with Jack nickelson joker. Thought of it After I watched beetlejuice

    • @jamesb16616
      @jamesb16616 Год назад

      @@pooooo52 Michael Keaton would make a great Joker

  • @alexmaverick6647
    @alexmaverick6647 3 года назад +2

    I like that the doctor still calls him “counselor”

  • @seanstoutgamer
    @seanstoutgamer 4 года назад +2

    Danny Elfman's score phenomenal as always!!!

  • @AgentQQ8
    @AgentQQ8 3 года назад +1

    Holy shit. I want to rewatch this now.

  • @reptileyeah7620
    @reptileyeah7620 3 года назад

    This is amazing

  • @DaMoonWalker12
    @DaMoonWalker12 13 лет назад +1

    this is totally kick ass! i love it! good job very good job indeed!

  • @paulwood1790
    @paulwood1790 4 года назад +1

    What an awesome opening

  • @ceeleewal1257
    @ceeleewal1257 4 года назад +2

    2:49 Two-Face's scar changed sides (look at his face when he leans in), then when he pulls back it's how it started.

    • @StevenRice
      @StevenRice 3 года назад

      No, it didn't. That's Tommy lee jones' normal wrinkly face lit in red.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 9 лет назад +16

    Is that guy in the opening Hugo Strange? :D

    • @bloodrunsclear
      @bloodrunsclear 9 лет назад

      andoc THAT'S an interesting idea O_o

    • @wolflower
      @wolflower 9 лет назад +12

      bloodrunsclear It's a character called Dr Burton (named after Tim Burton) played by Rene Auberjonois.

    • @bloodrunsclear
      @bloodrunsclear 9 лет назад

      I figured that out later ^^'

    • @wolflower
      @wolflower 9 лет назад +1

      Ok, sorry

    • @serg1093
      @serg1093 4 года назад +2

      RIP Rene Auberjonois.

  • @KnoxCarbon
    @KnoxCarbon Год назад +1

    I really feel like Schumacher's flashier aesthetic would have juxtaposed well with a darker Batman story. If only the studio hadn't gotten cold feet after Batman Returns.

  • @lukascartoons2645
    @lukascartoons2645 4 года назад

    this is amazing

  • @adamboard1446
    @adamboard1446 3 года назад

    That was great!!!

  • @_danoffx_4757
    @_danoffx_4757 8 месяцев назад

    The delivery for "Fortune smiles" always kills me

  • @colliric
    @colliric 12 лет назад +1

    Actually TakeXero according to the original script, the scene "jumpcuts" to Bruce Wayne's helicopter approaching Wayne Enterprises.... as a news reader is reading a report about the breakout and at the same time talking about how Dent became Two-Face. That scene of cause is in the final film, but they edited the voice over so the scene could be shifted to after the Bank robbery. The "Drive through"(and bank) scene was originally after Wayne leaves that special capsule that led to the Batcave.

  • @micahjohansson7573
    @micahjohansson7573 4 года назад

    Damn you, Warner Bros. This opening is awesome.

  • @javierszapari5836
    @javierszapari5836 3 года назад

    Nice work

  • @keijijohnson9754
    @keijijohnson9754 3 года назад +1

    3:11 Dang that cut was so seemless, it got me thinking Two-Face was beginning to don the cowl for a second.

  • @captinme08
    @captinme08 13 лет назад +1

    very nice on this

  • @albertogalvan2444
    @albertogalvan2444 2 года назад +3

    Amo este intro perfecto ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Chris-qo4rt
    @Chris-qo4rt 3 месяца назад

    With all the deleted scenes that exist and cutting off some of the silly and over the top elements whenever possible while also replacing some of the goofy music here and there this could be a pretty solid Batman flick. The potential is there!

  • @oscaraburto3341
    @oscaraburto3341 4 года назад +4

    Not that batman forever was bad, i stilled love that movie, but damn. This opening would have changed the tone and minds of those who didn't like the direction that batman went into after burton stepped aside from directing

    • @lucianotecuanapa9853
      @lucianotecuanapa9853 4 года назад +1

      It because WB got a big contract to sale batman toys that why they made it kid friendly.

  • @H0n3yMonstah
    @H0n3yMonstah 4 года назад +4

    Tommy Lee Jones definitely tried to make Two Face too much like the Joker.

    • @elijahbrink4596
      @elijahbrink4596 3 года назад

      Imo, this intro is the only good scene of him. I love his suit though. He could have worked in a movie like this imo.

  • @SeasideDetective2
    @SeasideDetective2 5 лет назад +2

    i always thought that opening two-face monologue started out brilliant. that's still one of my favorite lines in the movie. if only jones had tried to keep himself in the zone he had before the "doo-dah" part!

    • @GenGamesUniverse
      @GenGamesUniverse 4 года назад

      That's the whole point. When he did that part, he switched from "Harvey Dent" to "Two Face".

    • @acon2253
      @acon2253 4 года назад

      @@GenGamesUniverse Hi, here is a link to the petition for the release of the director's cut of Batman Forever:
      www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-release-the-director-s-cut-of-batman-forever
      After you sign the petition send it on to as many people as possible and tell them to also send it to as many people as possible. Thanks.

  • @mcsthethreequel9557
    @mcsthethreequel9557 Год назад

    Honestly couldn't tell if it was real or not at first. No idea where this has been my whole life!

  • @rpprt3
    @rpprt3 9 лет назад +32

    As much as I love Elfman's scores for 89/Returns, his great music just doesn't seem to fit here in "wacky" Schumacher-land. Shame we didn't get a proper 3rd Batman (there are a few good scenes in it, and with a darker tone, and a few tweaks, it could have worked) and had to wait for it die in 1997, until Nolan resurrected Batman in 2005.

    • @honoramongscars649
      @honoramongscars649 8 лет назад +6

      If Tim Burton got his way we would have gotten the return of Catwoman (and a good spin-off film), the Riddler played by the great late Robin Williams (it was going to be one of his "serious" roles/good serious roles), Robin played by Marlon Wayans, Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face, Danny Elfman returning to do the soundtrack, Michael Keaton returning as Batman, might have had Brad Doruif as Scarecrow, and it would have been as dark (possilby even darker) as Batman Returns.

    • @rpprt3
      @rpprt3 8 лет назад +1

      +HonorAmongScars Sounds good to me :)

    • @thedrewdog
      @thedrewdog 8 лет назад +1

      I thought it worked for the opening, but then you get the wacky Jerry Lewis guard and all that other bullshit, and the entire movie falls apart -- doesn't age well at all.

    • @Werewolf_Korra
      @Werewolf_Korra 8 лет назад

      +HonorAmongScars Worm Tongue as the Scarecrow? now that I've got to see.
      ... but Jeffrey Combs will always be my favorite scarecrow actor.
      Although, I prefer his design in the first Arkham Game, and I was first introduced to the character through Cilian Murphy.

    • @thedestroyer2alltrolls411
      @thedestroyer2alltrolls411 2 года назад

      @@honoramongscars649 Robin being played by Marlon fucking Wayons would’ve been atrocious! What the hell was Burton thinking about casting him as Robin for Batman Continues?

  • @Itosalix
    @Itosalix 3 года назад +3

    Why must the studios misread us? We enjoyed the darkness that we got with 1 and 2. But they wanted to harken back to the Adam West campy version. Nothing against West or the show, it worked for what it was and the time. That's not what wanted.
    Also (with Nolan's film) making the villain not the true villain isn't a clever twist, it pisses us off. And, you know, we couldn't understand Bane half the time... yeah, that didn't help.
    ...but they keep doing it!

  • @DVDBW
    @DVDBW 4 года назад +2

    Nightwing & Batman vs. Harvey "JOKER" Dent & Edward "JOKER" Nigma.

  • @UltimateBatChannel
    @UltimateBatChannel 14 лет назад +1

    Very Good!!
    =D

  • @MykelLinden
    @MykelLinden 3 года назад +1

    Honestly, I wish the movie had had the EXACT same beginning as the novelization.
    Instead of the guy being tied up on the fan, Dr. Burton tugs him backward and finds his throat slashed, and THEN sees the writing on the wall in blood.
    But also, a scene even earlier where the soon-to-be-dead guard enters Harvey's cell and the two (three?) of them play a coin toss game for the guard (who was told by Harvey he'd get a million dollars for busting him out) to get two million dollars or nothing. The coin toss is scarred side up, and Harvey slashes the guard's throat, to which Two-Face tells the guard "You gambled, and you lost...two times zero is...zero. Nothing. No money...no life."

  • @flannelshirtguy
    @flannelshirtguy 13 лет назад +1

    You can't imageine how angry I was when I found out that the Arkham opening was the original one. That would have made the movie better.

  • @Jeremyparker
    @Jeremyparker 12 лет назад

    Brilliant.

  • @andrewkingham
    @andrewkingham 13 лет назад +15

    Whaaat?! They had *this* and they chose to go with "I'll get a drive thru" Batman?! I'll never understand the movie industry.
    Btw, is that Hugo Strange or just a generic shrink?

  • @ilikethecokev2
    @ilikethecokev2 3 года назад +1

    "Fortune smiles. Another day of wine and roses. Or, in your case, BEER AND PIZZA!"

  • @sladewilson7083
    @sladewilson7083 3 года назад

    It was PERFECT

  • @Scoonertuna
    @Scoonertuna 13 лет назад

    This was edited very well. You show a faithful adaptation of Harvey Dent. Just wish the movie was that faithful.

  • @LeonLindProductions
    @LeonLindProductions 10 лет назад +28

    why oes it say "Tim Burton film" when later we get the scees that Joel Schew....something, filmed.

    • @RIDDICK0911
      @RIDDICK0911 10 лет назад +14

      Because Tim Burton produced it.

    • @phantomzone2725
      @phantomzone2725 8 лет назад

      +RIDDICK0911 He don't get 100% involved at the production. He only approved the choice of Joel Schumacher.

    • @RIDDICK0911
      @RIDDICK0911 8 лет назад

      *****
      Approved Schumacher as director.
      Hired writers for the first draft.
      Tim Burton Productions.

    • @phantomzone2725
      @phantomzone2725 8 лет назад +1

      But Warner still deleted the most awesome and darkest scenes (which would help with the continuity too) and added all that neon lights and lighter style, though it was much better than Batman & Robin.

    • @Top_Hat_Man
      @Top_Hat_Man 3 года назад

      @@acon2253 Stop Commenting The Same Comment Many Times!

  • @esk8jaimes
    @esk8jaimes 3 года назад

    Wow, that was so much darker!

  • @Tstarr
    @Tstarr 12 лет назад

    I actually didn't know that. My mistake, thanks for the info.

  • @willyboyx1
    @willyboyx1 4 года назад +1

    A much improved opening scene than what was released. Think it would take a minor miracle tho for Batman and robin to improve

  • @bintube5269
    @bintube5269 3 года назад

    Let's start this party with a bang!

  • @micmaliss
    @micmaliss 4 года назад

    Now that is a Schumacher opening.

  • @RCFilmsProductions
    @RCFilmsProductions 12 лет назад +1

    Has anyone else noticed that the Batmobile in this movie looks like the Batmobile in Batman Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.

  • @mckinleycrain8318
    @mckinleycrain8318 4 года назад +1

    Much better than the original opening

  • @sentenza5098
    @sentenza5098 3 года назад

    This was my favourite movie as a kid. Would love to see the directors cut.