Nonsense tbh lyoto, shogun, D.c,D.c, Alexander, rampage, Rashad, Victor, alex Smith, ryan Bader, but than again the legends he fought was from previous generation of mma
This is utter nonsense. You could easily name half of his opponents. Look if we were talking about the likes of Khabib then I would agree, but Jon Jones has beaten alot of big names.
1:47 Well technically Jose Aldo is the youngest champ since he made his debut as the champ and was a couple months younger than Jones but he never gets credit for it
In the ring: - Fought bums before Bader - Fought old middleweights - Used PEDs and failed drug tests multiple times - Lost to Reyes - Arguably lost to Gus - Didn't finish OSP & Smith off PEDs - Went to a close decision to one-legged Santos - Infamous pillow hands - Serial eye poker - Ducked Ngannou - Ducked Aspinall Outside the ring: - Hit his wife - Hit and Run on a pregnant woman - Had his kids call the cops on him - Known substance abuser - Liar - Coward - Alleged snitch - Actual a$$hole - Very fake, cringe, and a manipulative sociopath Not my GOAT...
We put too much emphasis on undefeated records. This isn’t boxing, a loss shouldn’t take anyone out of GOAT convos, it helps but someone like khabib can be considered a goat to many but only has like 3-5 good wins
@Eltiburonmma I don't know who you're responding to. I'm mentioning his losses so people DON'T use his "undefeated" record as an excuse because it's not true, Jon did lose. I'm not pointing out his losses to get him out the GOAT convo (it's one of the reasons, but I listed all my other reasons why Jon isn't the greatest) but to stop others like Dana and the UFC from claiming he is undefeated as a reason he is the GOAT. My GOAT is GSP who definitely has losses. The difference is he avenged them and wasn't delusional enough to claim he never lost, unlike a certain duck. He also wasn't on PEDs but that's another issue.
@@bot6349 I know, sort of what I mean. MMA fans are mostly made up of casuals, they care more about the fighters record than they care about how the fighter acts, even tho the fighters represent our sport. And that just gives people the green light to avoid accountability. Like Jones will go to any lengths to make sure he stays undefeated because of his legacy, because people see him as the GOAT for being “undefeated” when he in fact isn’t.
Jones has wins over 11 champions, it's a lot more if we count interim champions. He didn't fight entirely bums before Bader, but some of them were. Bader was only his 7th fight in the UFC, and he was only 23 years old when he won the belt. It's not his fault the division was older than him, but they weren't quite on the downsides of their careers yet either. I feel like the only exception to that is when he fought R. Evans. I agree with all your other points. I'm not a fan of Jones, been cheering against him in most of his fights across his career, but I can't agree with you that they were all shitty old fighters. What Jones did was shocking at the time and insanely impressive. Most people do not become champion until their late 20s or early 30s. If Jones resume looks like shit now, it's only in retrospect because he broke most of his opponents mentally afterwards. Even Reyes, who everyone thinks beat him, was mentally fucked after that fight and never the same.
This is ridiculous at this point! Just about every single person DC fought, he had a disadvantage. DC is 5'9 stated by himself he fought at light-heavyweight and heavyweight. The average height of those classes are; LWH just under 6'3, HW just over 6'4. He is fat that's pretty much how he has always been, the only person who put themselves at a disadvantage was DC himself, no one else.
@@WellHeyyyyeah I mean I dont like Jones but this is just hilarious trying to make his career look bad nobody talks about the fact that DC was also juiced up when he fought Jones... I dont like Jones but he's the GOAT for sure
1. Fought only old pride middleweights in his prime 2. Had to use steroids to get the only KO in his UFC career 3. Gets to fight whoever he wants 4. His 2nd title run 2018-2020 was dogshit, shoudlve lost to Reyes 5. Should’ve lost to Gus in 2013 6. Couldn’t finish OSP
I watched Gus fight and dont know what you guys were watching. Gus made Jones head a punching bag, and the only thing jones did was legkicks. Jones boxing is such a dogshit, even me, with some year and half of boxing+kickboxing can’t watch it with strait face, I’m legit crying when i see bones boxing. On top of that, dude has no power in his punches. He can be punching opponents, whose eyes he gauged, and they still won’t be wobbled
People forget that the first fight with Cormier should’ve been a NC as well. He tested positive for cocaine, which is actually considered a performance enhancing drug; that was the fight in which he hid under his octagon for 6 hours a week before the event to avoid testing; and that was also one of the fights in which he had “testosterone levels of a castrated male”….
@@khan-ch2vs your goat is a homosexual roid cheat that eyepokes his opponents and hits women…he’s gonna get fraudchecked by a senior citizen this weekend
You kids don't know that you're talking about. He tested positive for cocaine outside the competition window in a test that was months before the fight. The Nevada commission actually violated privacy laws by even disclosing it because it was only supposed to be a PED test. Also, cocaine is a narcotic, not a PED. I can tell you from personal experience that stuff harms physical ability, even when you're high as a kite.
Not to mention he fought fighters that would compete in MW nowadays. And he literally defended vs Belfort who was a MW and #8 MW Chael Sonnen that just got destroyed by Anderson Silva. Padded record
In regards to UFC/MMA Fighting NOT personal matters Jon Jones is the 🐐 bottom line. I don’t know that man so I can’t judge him about his personal life but as far as him fighting he is the best I’ve ever seen.
Is it though? Multiple time steroid cheat... During one fight he had the testosterone of a castrated male😂... So it begs the question how a professional athlete... A mma hw champ competed at all... 😂😂😂 He had every advantage yet he still needed to cheat.. He ducked PRIME stipe because he wasn't a draw. He ducked ngannou and now he spent 3 years bulking only to say he'd rather drop title rather than fight the best HW.
@arthurallenb yes I can... If Jon Jones glazers refuse to accept that Jones lost to reyes because that's the result then guess what... Jones lost v hamil😂😂😂😂
Horrendous takes. There’s no known man alive right now beating Jon Jones in a MMA fight. Imagine starting the video with Jon Jones beats Shogun Rua and saying “Meh” while he was 23 years old making history as the youngest champion. 😂 The amount of hate in this video is troll worthy honestly. Jon Faced Legends. People saying he beat a bunch of Pride middle weights? Bro Middle weight in pride was 205lbs. He fought legit light heavyweights. He’s got probably the greatest resume in all MMA. Yes Jon got popped for PEDs yes that tarnished the legacy, but is he not the greatest talent that ever stepped in the ring? It’s also worth it to research how little was found of PEDs in his system not saying he didn’t cheat but there is some questionable evidence that could support Jon being a victim of tainted supplements atleast once. NOT SAYING HE DIDNT CHEAT. But regardless what do you want from the dude? He’s got more title fights than any fighter, more title wins than any fighter, truthfully undefeated, had a couple close fights Gus/Santos/Reyes but did beat them. I would honestly say Gus was way closer than Reyes. Reyes gave up after round 2, from 3-5 was all Jon. Dude went up and beat Cyrl to become champ, in spectacular fashion. Then beat Stipe in spectacular fashion. Sure Stipe is older, but he’s still Stipe. The fight got made like 2 years ago, Jon got injured and this was unfinished buisness. Did Stipe not deserve the shot? Was Dana supposed to just say fuck off Stipe, here’s Aspinal now. No. This is also why I don’t get the Jon Jones is ducking Aspinal, he’s not ducking him at all. He had unfinished business with Stipe. Aspinal keeps making videos saying Jon won’t fight him and that his in this weird spot and can’t obtain the belt. No you’re not, the clock just started ticking on even being able to receive a contract or review negations for a fight between either of them. Jon is right. What’s Aspinal have to offer him, Jon has been collecting legends under his belt like Thanos collecting infinity stones for coming on two decades now. Jon has money, he doesn’t need anything out of an Aspinal fight unless it’s as he stated “Fuck you money” and I don’t blame him. I hope he gets it, and beats Aspinals ass so everyone will shut the fuck up, he’s right Aspinal is annoying. We’ve seen Jones fight like 5-6 Aspinal like characters that were sure to beat him already.. So yeah hopefully we see JJ vs Aspinal, then get the Pereira fight. In a perfect world that’s how it happens. Idk the RUclipsr who posted this honestly has me convinced he’s trolling, it’s just wild takes, completely hating.
I agree with most of what you said however you’re giving jones a bit too much slack. Jon cheated multiple times and he’s the LAST person I’d give the benefit of the doubt it. Don’t fall for the “tainted supplements” claim. Jon is a sociopath who will tell you whoever you need to hear to win you over. As far as Tom, he had a really good chance to beat Jon, same with Francis. I do agree with you that Jon doesn’t need to fight Tom, however if Jon doesn’t plan to stay at heavyweight he needs to vacate the belt. Tom has already defended the interim belt and jones is actively ruining his career by holding the belt hostage. Jon is getting old so if he just wants to stick around for money fights then I’m perfectly fine with that as long as he doesn’t log jam the division like Connor did.
I still remember the female interviewer asking Dana why jones is still here while other fighters have been suspended, and jones and his fanboys just boo the lady. Like just answer the question dude, why are you an ass, and now you’re crying? Stop that fake crying, Jon, you did all these shitty things, take accountability. I think most people have turned on him, not because he cheated, not only because he’s done shitty things, but the fact that he has the audacity to walk around calling others disrespectful and acting like he’s innocent and righteous, like dude, you had years to clean up your act and you’re still acting like an ass.
Was this the reporter at the jones gus 2 press conference? When she asked why are we talking about what’s in jons system again and. Not the fight? And jones said sit down. And she said I am sitting down
@ yes, where’s she’s like “why did you test positive” turns to Dana and asks why he’s still there when Frank Mir got suspended for 2 years, and he’s like “next question” and tells her “better journalism, you suck”
You know you’re threatened by Jon Jones greatness when you gotta write a long as essay. People like you are the type to get punked in the streets. I can tell you had no friends in school.
I’ll be honest I’m a Jon Jones hater, but even I can’t get behind this idea. As someone who’s been following the sport most of my life, his legacy is that of the greatest of all time. You can argue he lost a close decision to Reyes and beat an over the hill Stipe, but even if both those events were scrubbed from the record books, he’s still at worst the second greatest MMA fighter of all time behind GSP. If you want to argue his first few fights were against lesser competition, that applies to every fighter on the roster. The fact of the matter is he cleaned out an entire division that was a murderers row. DC 2x, Gus 2x, Rampage, Shogun, Rashad, Machida, Sonnen, Vitor, Glover, Bonnar, Santos, Bader, Smith, OSP, Gane is probably the greatest resume in the history of the sport and it’s not even including his most recent win over the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time.
I can get behind this and agree. However the steroids have to be mentioned. So that puts everything in the air for me . What did they do when lance armstrong popped? Took everything away. It should be no different with jones. Who popped 3 different times. Sure his resume is the best. But he can never be the goat to me
I can accept it and I have. Jon jones has the best resume. And he’s on the longest unbeaten streak. But his comp as of late hasn’t been great and he’s a caught steroid cheat. If we’re talking about the “goat” this puts asteriks imo
@BunnyMMA one thing I can say about jon jones is that he's very cerebral in his approach,he's gonna do whatever it takes to win and use every advantage,some things I agree on what people say as far as how he's winning but that's apart of his intelligence winners just know what it takes to win.
Agreed. His resume isn't as good as people think. If he took on Tom and won it would be a huge win. But he's ducking it for a reason. He's the same age as many of the people he faced throughout his career. So don't use that as an excuse to avoid the fight, while propping him up with wins over the same age group. Most of his fights are with guys that are smaller and less reach. Combine all of this with the fact that he's been caught cheating and it's not as impressive as some people want to contend.
Call him what you want as a person but as a fighter he's not overrated. The thing with DC wasn't fair and it sucks. It sucks DC will never truly know if he could've beat Jon. BUT Jon with or without drugs and all the fuck ups is still the goat.
ALL OF THEM are on steroids, all pro athlètes are. But Jon ABUSES steroids, he uses them more and more often than anyone else. Usada never supressed steroids, it regulated it, and Jon cheated there too
@@StdsRbop1 you stupid ? Usada was never there to stop the usage of peds, it's there to regulate it. Athletes who get caught are the cheaters, they are the one who dont play by the rules. It's like comparing someone who does one eye poke every ten fights to... Well Jon who uses it every minuts of each of his fights and builds entire gameplans on it
He had five layoffs, you have to take 4 months times five off that at least to account for breaks between fights. That’s nearly two years off your 8?year total. He decides to take 3 years off to get heavy enough that’s 2.5 years off your total that only 4 years inactivity and he tears a pec so that’s a year. So it’s only really three years inactivity. Santos was a destructive force going into the Jones fight as was Reyes. But Jones as a true champion won those last two rounds easily and would have won the next ten rounds if Reyes could have lasted. Reyes has not been the same since. He came up won the heavyweight as did Roy Jones Jr, at least Jones hung around to defeat he belt before he decided to go back and fight dudes his size. No one called Roy a duck when he said fuck ifc there is no way I am going to unify against Tyson. Get a grip everyone
Yeah but what about the asterisks? Losing to Dominick Reyes clearly 3-2 Popping for steroids multiple times Not being able to finish a one legged Thiago santos Taking Anthony smith to a decision Ducking his interim champ Tom aspinall to fight a retired 42 year old firefighter . How is this me hating? I’m giving reasons my guy
@@melthework4511 “resume” doesn’t automatically make it reality. He lost to Reyes and Gustafsson #1, despite the judges. He had the Vegas venue moved to LA because Nevada wouldn’t sanction the fight due to him pissing hot.. again, for Gustafsson #2, and he has a No Contest vs DC due to pissing hot… again. That should be a loss on him too. Thats 4 losses we ALL can clearly see. So, in REALITY.. he’s actually 25-4. Not to mention he’s always fighting dudes 7-10 yrs older and now he’s ducking a guy 6 yrs younger. What a hypocrite. DC was 38 and Jones was 30 in their last fight. Juicy Juice is scared to death of Tom.
@@512cbratch I agree with a lot that you’re saying, but still name a better résumé. I hate Jon Jones guts, but he’s still the goat. The only argument is that you don’t consider someone who is on steroids to goat which is fair.
We're now at the point new fans think Jones is overrated. People say this like it's a bad thing. Some would argue it's karma. To that I say nay. Rather, it's the result of the law of sowing and reaping, that law which is at work in us all. Sow to the flesh, reap of the flesh. Sow to the spirit, reap of the spirit. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear will understand.
Let me make this point for you casuals. Pride middle weights fought at 205. So for all of you saying “Jon beat a bunch of pride middle weights” you’re actually saying Jon fought legit Light heavyweights. So you can all stfu with that argument.
Listen bud. There is no doubt that Jon jones is one of the most of not the most skilled mma fighter we’ve ever seen. His resume although I feel a little overrated is still the best. Yes you can be the best and be overrated as overrated simply means rated higher than you should be. He had some stinkers. He hasn’t been as dominant as everyone would like to suggest The Gus 1 fight Taking santos to a decision one one leg and nearly losing Clearly losing to Dominick Reyes 3-2 and being gifted a decision Taking Anthony smith to a decision Ducking aspinall Ducking ngannou Doing steroids At what point can we critique him? Are we just supposed to say yeah he destroyed everyone and it wasn’t even close? It’s just not true. And despite having a near foot reach advantage over nearly every opponent he faced he still had to go and juice? Was he not confident enough in his skills to win? One can argue steroids don’t give you fight IQ. Which is true. But it allows for easier recovery in training, less injuries. Better cardio and muscle mass. Which other fighters like dc who aren’t doing roids don’t have. To conclude. I’m saying he is overrated to some degree and should be critiqued due to ducking certain opponents. Narrowly beating what we would call “mid fighters” and taking steroids. That’s it
@ you can have that opinion all you like. Truth is a majority of the fights Jon did have were against legends of the sport. Jon ruled over 205 when it was murders row. Narrowly beating “Mid fighters” brother who is a mid fighter fighting for a LHW belt in the UFC? You have some silly takes man. It’s one fight at a time in the UFC. Jones Beat Reyes 3-5 and would say the Gus fight was even closer, but that’s the game you play in MMA sometimes you have good showings and bad showings. When you find yourself taking something away from a fighter for winning a close entertaining fight you might be a hater. Jon Jones has never been involved in a robbery W fight. To say he ducked Ngannou putting on weight to go to heavy weight is kinda a hard argument to make. But I guess you can make it, idk man. You’re witnessing a one in a life time talent and you’re shitting all over him for clout. Tell me how over rated he is at the same time as telling me who has done all he has done and has all the accolades he has? You can’t be overrated at the top if you have nothing greater to be compared to. I’ll wait.
We can’t say for sure, I believe guys like Mighty Mouse. And stipe, and a bunch of other guys were clean. But we can’t just say “oh everybody is on juice” so he gets a pass
Kids these days do not understand nor keep similar energy towards Aspinal. Jones beat 7 nobodies in 1 year to get into the UFC. His second fight was Stephan Bonnar the Stephan Bonnar with legendary Forest fights. Go look at Aspinals first couple years he got destroyed by Clark who never made it to UFC getting taken down tons. From there we are talking pure legends. I think when people look at the names and level of competition is wild. Kahbib beat 20+ school teachers and cab drivers to fluff his record and only last handful were the top guys. Aspinal has a couple big name wins. Acting like OSP and Thiago Santos are easy fights to finish. Reyes ran too much and fight was in Texas so being the aggressor matters more and you need more significant shots like in round one if you run the whole time.
I don’t like Jon Jones as a person but you can’t take away what’s he’s done as a fighter. It feels like you’ve recently started watching MMA and don’t understand exactly how great all his opponents were.
@@BunnyMMAJust say you had Jones because you say women beating Dana white has a video of him slapping his wife keep the same energy now stop watching UFC then
Shogun was 1-1 in the UFC and would be a gatekeeper the rest of his career everybody knows his prime was during pride, Rampage was 3 years removed from his title reign and only had 2 more UFC fights before heading to bellator, Lyoto was 1-2 in his last 3 had 3 more fights at 205 before moving to 185 and trading wins and losses, Rashad was 3 years removed from his title reign coming off a knee injury would move to 185 and would only win 3 more fights his entire career, Vitor 8 years removed from his title reign vitor had been fighting at 185 the past 4 years and didn't beat any lhw to get a title shot, Chael fought at middleweight the last 6 years before the Jon fight he was 2-2 in his last 4 going into the fight he was coming off a TKO loss and would trade wins and losses the rest of his career. His resume isn't as impressive as people say they were great at one time not when Jon beat them.
lol I don’t hate anyone. Dislike. Sure. But being the greatest requires you to be “great” so to speak. How can you be great beating women and taking steroids? Cheating in competition? Why does everyone give JJ a free pass on steroids. But when we’re talking other guys popping they instantly get there entire career thrown away
@@BLACKRULERSHIP lol Most weight classes don't have the belt hot potatoing around to be able to fight multiple past their prime former champions so quit with that bs argument.
Your channels taking off bro. Good shit, as an MMA nerd, we need more unfiltered and straight forward takes. Where else would we argue with each other in comment sections?
I dont think he lost againts reyes. At the end reyes was so gassed out and jones had the energy to keep going for 5 more rounds. It has to count for something
Well maybe if we were judging the fight as a whole then sure. But fights are judged round by round basis. And Reyes clear as day won round 123 and jones won 45. So based off the judging criteria Dominick Reyes won that fight. You don’t win because you won the last rounds. That’s not how the fights are scored
And that matters why, exactly? It doesn't matter if a guy looks the same as he did in the 1st or if they're too tired to even stand after that final bell sounds. It doesn't count for anything significant enough to change the fact that over the course of a five round fight, you lost more rounds than you won. Maybe Jones would have earned a legitimate decision win if there had been five more rounds. Maybe he could have 10-8'd Reyes in rounds 6-10. Maybe he could have stopped Reyes in the very first second of round 6. Knocked him out cold or submitted him. Unfortunately though, none of those hypotheticals mean shit because world championship fights are scheduled for five rounds and five rounds maximum. Been that way for a long time now.
@@basedlord8247 I get what you mean, but we love glazing jones. We will find any excuse to do it lol. After watchinig Jon Jones vs DC 2, Nganou vs Miocic and Jon Jones vs Miocic. I can tell that Jon is not the same anymore sadly the age is slowing him down a bit. And Nganou demolished Miocic it was a much more dominant victory compared to what Jones did. Probably shouldnt fight aspinal, just give up the belt and retire
Reyes was still throwing more strikes in the last 2 rounds he just wasn't landing as many lmao the winner isn't determined by who's less tired if so than the less active guy would be the winner every time.
It's just statistics really, If you get 100 men in a room how many have the build to be good LHW's? I doubt its higher than 3 or 4. How many would be good LW? Probably like 25+. Then add the fact that most athletic dudes big enough to be LHW or HW go into less brutal sport/more popular sports where the money is better (basketball, American football, rugby, even boxing) and you get left with a division that has a talent pool 20 times smaller than the division's closer to average male weight (FW, LW and WW).
@@mr.tomatohead3709 said no one who isn’t a casual ever LHW during Jones prime was the most stacked division of all time. Jones, DC, Anderson Silva, Rumble, Rampage, Sugar, Gus, Santos, TRT Vitor, Glover and those are just the tip of the iceberg. You can not name a single fighter in the top 15 who wasn’t a killer at that time. Even outside the top 15 it was a shark tank. No division has been as stacked ever since. Not prime Stipes HW, not 2016-current LW, not 2022-now Featherweight and Flyweight…not a single division has come close again.
Because he cherry picks his opponents lmao he refused to fight Tom despite him being the interim champ. It doesn’t matter if stipe had been booked, the fight was cancelled. Anyone else would’ve been stripped for that duck
lol I gave my points and you still choose to say I’m a “casual” yet I’ve been a fan of the sport since 2011. And have consistently been watching sense 2015. But yeah. I’m a “casual” Thanks for watching champ
@@BunnyMMA then you should know that bones is perfectly capable of dealing with aspinal, I really hope he takes that fight, just to see what all the haters do 💀
lol bro it’s not that serious. I’m not going to cry over ufc. I just state my opinion and move on. We all know Tom aspinall is the real heavyweight champ 💪
you are you was on the brink of tears in the video 😂😂😂😂😂😂 sad bc bones can’t be beaten it makes you sick to see him on top your a hater and that’s a terrible trait you have femininity in your traits
lol jones has femininity in his traits. Enough to not feel secure enough to not take steroids and cheat. Imagine a man so insecure he had a height and reach advantage over every opponent he’s ever faced but still had to go roids. And beats his wife in front of his children. What a stand up guy Jon jones is!
@@BunnyMMA Hey man i also made a vid on the ducking so eh, you gave me an idea for another thing we as MMA fans need to consider though. Poor Jon he might not cry like Izzy but people are coming after him just as bad if not worse.
Ypu've put words to what I've always felt but never stated out loud. Big respect and you're 100% right. When we speak of Martial Artists, we speak of people who have unified body mind and spirit. They are leaders who lead by example, and have almost always acted as role models to others who want to achieve what they have. As even a concept, Jones is the opposite of a Martial Artist. He is a coward (flees the scene after hitting someone with his car), has no responsibility towards his family (beats his wife), and is a snitch. Forget Martial Artist, this guy is furthest thing from even a good man. He's a disgrace, and needs to be treated as such. We risk not only the legacy of the UFC by glorifying this coward, but we're actively choosing to tell our young ones that he is someone we should aspire to be like. That is disgraceful.
Exactly man. For me greatness isn’t just performances inside the cage. Can people look up to you? That has to be mentioned. Jon jones can’t be great. He took steroids and beat his wife. He is a disgrace of a man
What do you think of people saying “well if you’re gonna critique the PEDs for jones look at every dagestani, it’s well known they take it and have been caught for it”🥴. Still
why would anyone get angry over calling a wife beating steroid cheat overrated. it doesnt matter what aspect its in no one should be defending this man let his legacy die and be forgotten
@@cammytsunami3427 brother you watch and support the ufc Dana white is one of the heads of that company there is a video of him slapping his wife if we go based on your logic you should stop watching the UFC then go watch PFL or some shit
@monkey3896 but no one likes dana white what's your point you never see people glazing him everyone knows he's a bad guy. To try and act like it's excusable because someone else does just means your bias
Did he tho? Why couldn’t he finish one of the worst and weakest title challengers in Anthony smith? Why did he struggle against a one legged thiago santos? Why did he lose to Dominick Reyes? Why is he ducking aspinall? Interesting stuff
@ he did lmao I watched the fight recently TJ Dilla once said that Anthony just gives up and is why he isn’t champion and I hate to say it but I saw it in that in the Jones fight. Like you said in more recent years Jones became a decision guy he doesn’t really knock ppl out like that. And yeah that was pretty sad he couldn’t finish Santos and yeah he def lost to Dominick but tbf he looked average compared to his usual prime ability because years prior he fought like once a year do ring rust is probably a factor we don’t see a lot of his unorthodox fight style in that fight.
He also was fighting Anthony because he had already cleaned out the division. Calling Jon's resume as "soft" is a terrible argument when theres literally people who come into the UFC and fight 3 people before getting a title fight while Jon is one of the only fighters ever to clean out their division after what, defending the title 9 times?
@@Tybalt. not really, Jones could fight Glover or Jan but chose Smith instead. That is what you call cherrypicking. He knows Glover and Jan could knock the fcck out of him that is why he chose Smith and cant even finish him. Jones = Duck
@gutsglory3625 Glover was 2-2 at that point just beating Karl Robertson. Smith was coming off 3 in a row all finishes with 2 of them being former LHW champs. Jan had just got TKOd by Thiago less than a month before. What are you talking about?
this nga SPITTIN!! why bro ain’t never fight anderson Silva? why he befriend Izzy instead of fighting bro? Why he ain’t fight Francis? but he chose a cyril who can’t wrestle , wants a Alex who can’t wrestle , wanted and got a stipe whose been inactive and past his prime.
The problem is that the juri picked an excuse of the control time to not just give a victory to Reyes and cut the "undefeated" marketing proposal of Jon Jones, in the end UFC is a sport but it's also a business. But I would not dare to say that Jones is overrated anyway, and fighting middleweights just give him more credit because he was the target of everyone and always won, with eye pokes, steroids yeah, not the best person in the world for sure, but one of the top 5 GOATs fore sure
I just don’t feel like attacking Jon Jones resume is the way to undermine his legacy. Perspective is very important. Everyone fights nobodies before top competition, in any professional combat sport. because they are all essentially NOBODIES together. You going at guys like Gusmao and Jake O Brien means nothing, he was just starting out. Stephen Bonnar was his first true test in 2009 being an established veteran, had nothing to do with how good he is all-time. Brandon Vera was a decent win in 2010, being that he was pretty accomplished outside the UFC prior. Although Shogun wasn’t in his prime in 2011, the narrative was that Jones might actually struggle with the champ. In hindsight it might not be all amazing but back then, nobody expected a young JBJ to run through the legend like that. There’s a reason it’s considered one of the most iconic title victories in UFC history. I never understood the Anthony Smith logic. It’s easy to say that win is “embarrassing” when looking at at the last five years or so of Lionheart’s career, but in 2018 he was a pretty decent fighter. He was not a can YET. How else would he have got the title shot if he wasn’t half-good? Outside of the illegal knee, Bones absolutely dominated that fight. Regardless of going to a decision with him, it still wasn’t remotely competitive at any point. People who actually watched the fight would know Jones had multiple opportunities to end it, but I genuinely think he wanted to be in there that long. He literally emptied the entire bag of strikes he knew, a 25 minute technical destruction. He wasn’t standing around, stalling, like some decision artists. Anyone who enjoys pure skill enjoyed that bout. Same thoughts for the OSP fight, Jon said himself in the post-fight presser that he didn’t wanna take risks knowing the dangers of St Preux. The goal was to snag the interim and get out with minimal damage, which he did just that. There’s nothing wrong with a few decisions. Even the Thiago Santos fight, even on one leg he was very tough and DANGEROUS. Jones recognized that and still fought him as if he wasn’t compromised. That’s IQ. The logic that he should’ve rushed into those flurries and risk getting clipped is stupid. Also, I never believed that fight was even close, Jones clearly won. Jones landed almost 20 more total strikes and outstruck him in every round but R1. Most of those rushing hooks that Santos was using were misses if you slow down the tape. His pressure created the illusion that he was outpointing his opponent, but that wasn’t the case. He really only landed clean a handful of times. You must understand that a guy most likely isn’t going to submit/ko every opponent he comes across. Gameplans and strategies aren’t always the same. It’s actually hilarious to me that people use Jon’s winning performances against him. The only fight he genuinely fought horrid in to me was against Reyes, being to passive for the first three rounds, poor defense, and only picking up the activity in the championship rounds. The Dominick Reyes loss, steroids are valid points and even then I don’t think it’s enough to say he isn’t the goat. Resume isn’t the way to do this.
Lol let it go? A steroid cheat? Women abuser? Okay buddy And yes Conor and Sean are trash to. I keep that same energy for all shit fighters. Don’t worry they will have there own videos too
@ Oh so you haven’t geez 🙄 I wonder why. You all worship the ground they walked on. Even with their🐕 💩 records. What made them so special. 🤔 Maybe it was the green trunks idk. Threatening to pew pew or unalive people and beat on the elderly fine but y’all draw the line at woman beating great moral compass. I can really sense the virtue.😂
@@BunnyMMA you bitch too much stop watching the ufc 70% of the fighters have a past we are human stop acting like you have to be an angel go watch Bag girls club or something you bitch too much
If Jon would have stayed at light heavyweight no one would have said anything. It’s the fact that he said he wanted to go up to heavyweight. But then priced himself out of the ngannou fight. It’s like if you don’t wanna fight a guy that’s 40 pounds bigger than maybe don’t say you wanna fight at heavyweight? Because it’s a bad look. Oh I wanna fight at heavyweight but only against favorable matchups.
I hate him purely because he never owns his villainy like he should. If he just came out and said "Im not a good person. I do steroids. I beat women. I hit pregnant women in cars. I poke eyes. I kick kneecaps trying to injur people permanently. I hide under rings to duck usada. Reyes beat me. I even party the night before fights. I am a shitty dood.". I would then respect him.
Agreed. But for whatever reason Dana is riding his nuts going around saying Jon is number one this and that. I truly believe this is a master plan to have one up on Francis ngannou. Dana loves that jones smoked gane and ngannou struggled. He loves that. And he’s created a narrative that Francis didn’t wanna fight jones. It was the exact opposite. Jon ducked Francis and now is ducking tom. Incredible
With a minute and a half left, Gus had nearly an 8:1 headstrike advantage (88 to 12) before that spinning elbow. Gus schooled Bones for 3.5 rounds, no doubt won the 1st 3rds and only lost 4 when Jones landed that elbow. Taking a one legged Santos to a SD is a loss in itself to me, and I just watched the Reyes fight again, no doubt lost 1-3. Jones record is 27-2 at best with Hamil overturned (shouldn't be but for arguments sake) or 26-3, and he'd lose to Tom 100% and I don't see him lasting 5 mins * Also, Shogun was comimg off his 2nd major knee surgery and Jones literally got a short notice title fight with a legend after beating like 1 top 10 win. Imagine if Shogun turned down Jones "Nah, he's way younger, taller, massive reach and weighs more than me, with a strong wrestling base. Nah, he hasn't done anything yet...."
But Jon jones fans will say you’re a hater. You’re jealous . He’s still the goat. Keep crying . ETC. the delusion of his fans defending him is unreal, a steroid cheat and a women abuser is the “goat” of the sport, let that sink in
I think you should make a video talk about the UFC running out of superstar, I think that’s why Dana has been hyping up Jon because they need more big star to fight. Theres a punch of new champions that not a lot people care about besides Alex. And I also think that Dana wanting the UFC to be bigger then any of there fighters, so to not let any fighter get to big were they can demand more money. He wants everybody to be happy with bare minimum but that is the issue of no new superstars in the sport because they know that Dana isn’t going to pay them what there worth. and that’s why all the old fighters end up doing boxing to try and get some money at the end of there career.
@ you pick anybody on the planet and put them in the room with Jon, Jon’s the one walking out every single time…the kids that good. What was the question again?
Jones is the greatest fighter of all time! There will always be a reason to push someone off the GOAT talk but skill for skill Jon is the best to ever step in a cage. I'm not a fan of his but I won't judge his personal character. Every fighter tries to have an advantage over the other sometimes its legal "cheating" as in being a weight bully. The reality is Jon like other fighters had close fights and idc what media members say and they opinions they give they're just fans with blogs/podcast. Jon is the best because he wins regardless of what he has done outside the cage the man has the greatest argument for GOAT
A man of culture. Real ones know. People love to pad his record and say oh dude “he beat former champions” yeah okay buddy a bunch of washed pride middleweights who were 7-9 years older than him
You can't simultaneously duck and be the GOAT. Id put Silvia higher than him in the GOAT conversation. He lost to Weidman but at least he fought him. Thats better than ducking, ducking is basically an automatic loss. You forfeited the challenge. GSP is the GOAT.
Facts. The “goats” fight the best. Not run when the competition gets tough. When jones was 30 and dc was 38. He fought jones. While he was juiced. Now aspinall at 31 and jones at 37. Aspinall is too young for him apparently
@BunnyMMA that's one thing that got me. I looked up Aspinalls age. Thought he was 29 for some reason by the way Jon's been talking. He's only 6 years from Jon, and Jon just fought someone 5 years older than him! So what's the difference? And like you said he built a career off fighting old middleweights and 38 yrs old DC
Gane took a dive, no one can convince me otherwise. There is footage of him in the same position fighting the hands, not just sitting there with his hands on Jones back.
@BunnyMMA you think Tom is going take over the game when he's not. The heavy weight division is the weakest division for years. The only thing worth talking about has been Frank Mir, Brock, Cain and Jon Jones. Only reason Stipe even come up is by way of Daniel. I didn't know anything about him until that fight.
Jon jnoes is completely TRASH because the ufc couldn't find him better people to fight. They were grabbing the best fighters in the world at the time to go against him and i know they couldve done better than that - they couldve at least put him against a superhero or a space alien or something i mean cmon. If jon jones isnt fighting the incredible hulk next fight then his whole career dosent count anymore. 😂 You guys are creative and hilarious im sure he watches these videos and laughs while he wipes down his championship belts😆😂
Now Jones wants to fight random fights like Derek Lewis and Hill. Looks like he doesn't want legacy fights anymore. Most likely Jones will fight every HW and LHW except Tom Aspinall
People are mad Jon won't fight a British guy who gets tired after big 3 or 4 combos. Jon uses Steroids my dude. Tom has been cracking natty fighters like Serghei and Curtis Blaydes so he looks good. But he's not ready for Jon who is taking the Super Soldier Serum from Captain America. XD
@@MontyElazegui No that's my point, his entire premise is absurdly pedantic to the point it makes 0 sense! How is someone overrated if you're comparing him to respective fighters in his weight-class? Why would someone like GSP who has done the same thing with worse opponents (objectively) be better? Just to proceed to keep him on his list?
And yes even with the win over Stipe. Jones legacy is still overrated :)
your channel is overrated you have no subs you fkin hater you a low life hating on millionaires 28 & 0 keep coping & crying & seething 😂😂😂😂😂😂
your a nobody just like Tom
where are your subs you can’t even crack 1K 😂😂😂😂
28 & 0 COPE HARDER
it burns you that he’s great 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“If you saw a photo of Jon Jones’ opponents, you wouldn’t be able to name HALF of them” - Chael Sonnen
lol and what do ya know that’s facts. The casual fan base can maybe name 5-7 guys jones beat
@@BunnyMMA5 is too much for them😭
he got dog walked by Jones
Nonsense tbh lyoto, shogun, D.c,D.c, Alexander, rampage, Rashad, Victor, alex Smith, ryan Bader, but than again the legends he fought was from previous generation of mma
This is utter nonsense. You could easily name half of his opponents. Look if we were talking about the likes of Khabib then I would agree, but Jon Jones has beaten alot of big names.
1:47 Well technically Jose Aldo is the youngest champ since he made his debut as the champ and was a couple months younger than Jones but he never gets credit for it
13 seconds
@@yodaindica so what?
@@yodaindica6 failed drug tests
@@yodaindica Dominick Reyes and Turinabol
@@yodaindica P-E-D-s
In the ring:
- Fought bums before Bader
- Fought old middleweights
- Used PEDs and failed drug tests multiple times
- Lost to Reyes
- Arguably lost to Gus
- Didn't finish OSP & Smith off PEDs
- Went to a close decision to one-legged Santos
- Infamous pillow hands
- Serial eye poker
- Ducked Ngannou
- Ducked Aspinall
Outside the ring:
- Hit his wife
- Hit and Run on a pregnant woman
- Had his kids call the cops on him
- Known substance abuser
- Liar
- Coward
- Alleged snitch
- Actual a$$hole
- Very fake, cringe, and a manipulative sociopath
Not my GOAT...
We put too much emphasis on undefeated records. This isn’t boxing, a loss shouldn’t take anyone out of GOAT convos, it helps but someone like khabib can be considered a goat to many but only has like 3-5 good wins
@Eltiburonmma I don't know who you're responding to.
I'm mentioning his losses so people DON'T use his "undefeated" record as an excuse because it's not true, Jon did lose. I'm not pointing out his losses to get him out the GOAT convo (it's one of the reasons, but I listed all my other reasons why Jon isn't the greatest) but to stop others like Dana and the UFC from claiming he is undefeated as a reason he is the GOAT.
My GOAT is GSP who definitely has losses. The difference is he avenged them and wasn't delusional enough to claim he never lost, unlike a certain duck. He also wasn't on PEDs but that's another issue.
@@bot6349 I know, sort of what I mean. MMA fans are mostly made up of casuals, they care more about the fighters record than they care about how the fighter acts, even tho the fighters represent our sport. And that just gives people the green light to avoid accountability. Like Jones will go to any lengths to make sure he stays undefeated because of his legacy, because people see him as the GOAT for being “undefeated” when he in fact isn’t.
Jones has wins over 11 champions, it's a lot more if we count interim champions. He didn't fight entirely bums before Bader, but some of them were. Bader was only his 7th fight in the UFC, and he was only 23 years old when he won the belt. It's not his fault the division was older than him, but they weren't quite on the downsides of their careers yet either. I feel like the only exception to that is when he fought R. Evans.
I agree with all your other points. I'm not a fan of Jones, been cheering against him in most of his fights across his career, but I can't agree with you that they were all shitty old fighters. What Jones did was shocking at the time and insanely impressive. Most people do not become champion until their late 20s or early 30s.
If Jones resume looks like shit now, it's only in retrospect because he broke most of his opponents mentally afterwards. Even Reyes, who everyone thinks beat him, was mentally fucked after that fight and never the same.
@@bot6349 Aspinall fought way more Bums than Jon. Jon’s been fighting champions, contenders and hall of famers since he was 23…and beating them ALL
its wild that dc fought jones while having all the disadvantage
Right. He had a 6 inch height advantage. A 12 inch reach advantage, and took roids. Insane
This is ridiculous at this point! Just about every single person DC fought, he had a disadvantage. DC is 5'9 stated by himself he fought at light-heavyweight and heavyweight. The average height of those classes are; LWH just under 6'3, HW just over 6'4. He is fat that's pretty much how he has always been, the only person who put themselves at a disadvantage was DC himself, no one else.
@@WellHeyyyyeah I mean I dont like Jones but this is just hilarious trying to make his career look bad nobody talks about the fact that DC was also juiced up when he fought Jones... I dont like Jones but he's the GOAT for sure
@@BunnyMMA also, DC was 38, even older than Jones now insane
@@BunnyMMAshould jon chop his forearms off and ask a wizard to make him shorter so DC could have an easier time fighting him?
1. Fought only old pride middleweights in his prime
2. Had to use steroids to get the only KO in his UFC career
3. Gets to fight whoever he wants
4. His 2nd title run 2018-2020 was dogshit, shoudlve lost to Reyes
5. Should’ve lost to Gus in 2013
6. Couldn’t finish OSP
Facts bro. You know what’s real
He won against gus, everything else i agree with.
Nah he beat Gustafsson for sure but definitely lost 48-47 to Reyes
I watched Gus fight and dont know what you guys were watching. Gus made Jones head a punching bag, and the only thing jones did was legkicks.
Jones boxing is such a dogshit, even me, with some year and half of boxing+kickboxing can’t watch it with strait face, I’m legit crying when i see bones boxing. On top of that, dude has no power in his punches. He can be punching opponents, whose eyes he gauged, and they still won’t be wobbled
@@darchandarchan7036 well i dont know what to tell u, u seem to be just hating.
People forget that the first fight with Cormier should’ve been a NC as well. He tested positive for cocaine, which is actually considered a performance enhancing drug; that was the fight in which he hid under his octagon for 6 hours a week before the event to avoid testing; and that was also one of the fights in which he had “testosterone levels of a castrated male”….
Yep. People forget. Jon jones a blatant steroid cheat. But remember guys he’s the GOAT
@@BunnyMMAslowly turning into a hate channel on jones sorry that you to hate the goat but one day you will see the light
@@khan-ch2vs your goat is a homosexual roid cheat that eyepokes his opponents and hits women…he’s gonna get fraudchecked by a senior citizen this weekend
@@khan-ch2vs no, one day you will see the light lmao
You kids don't know that you're talking about. He tested positive for cocaine outside the competition window in a test that was months before the fight. The Nevada commission actually violated privacy laws by even disclosing it because it was only supposed to be a PED test. Also, cocaine is a narcotic, not a PED. I can tell you from personal experience that stuff harms physical ability, even when you're high as a kite.
Someone finally said it, his competition wasn't as good as people make it out to be. Great video🔥
Thanks champ! It has to be called out. And on top of lackluster comp he’s also a steroid cheat! How can this guy be the goat!?!?
Someone finally said it lol every mma creator is hopping on this bandwagon
Absolutely! 👌
@Cody__MMA: you’re right it was good, it was great!
Add another W to Jone's "overated" legacy.
Not to mention he fought fighters that would compete in MW nowadays.
And he literally defended vs Belfort who was a MW and #8 MW Chael Sonnen that just got destroyed by Anderson Silva. Padded record
Bro spitting facts
Padded record. 100%
In regards to UFC/MMA Fighting NOT personal matters Jon Jones is the 🐐 bottom line. I don’t know that man so I can’t judge him about his personal life but as far as him fighting he is the best I’ve ever seen.
Fedor had a 30+ win streak against the very best and won a fair amount of the other 15 fights he had
Dude just hating🤣🤣
Bro it’s what I do 🫡
They saying Jon fought plumbers now 😂😂😭😭 damn dudes a modern day bron fan
lol not a bron fan
22 minutes of cope
They don’t call me Dr cope for nothing 💪
Is it though? Multiple time steroid cheat... During one fight he had the testosterone of a castrated male😂... So it begs the question how a professional athlete... A mma hw champ competed at all... 😂😂😂
He had every advantage yet he still needed to cheat..
He ducked PRIME stipe because he wasn't a draw. He ducked ngannou and now he spent 3 years bulking only to say he'd rather drop title rather than fight the best HW.
@@vajidali530a paragraph of cope
@@vajidali530 i thought you was gona say “he had every advantage and still loss” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 u cant say that though
@arthurallenb yes I can... If Jon Jones glazers refuse to accept that Jones lost to reyes because that's the result then guess what... Jones lost v hamil😂😂😂😂
Horrendous takes. There’s no known man alive right now beating Jon Jones in a MMA fight.
Imagine starting the video with Jon Jones beats Shogun Rua and saying “Meh” while he was 23 years old making history as the youngest champion. 😂
The amount of hate in this video is troll worthy honestly. Jon Faced Legends. People saying he beat a bunch of Pride middle weights? Bro Middle weight in pride was 205lbs. He fought legit light heavyweights. He’s got probably the greatest resume in all MMA. Yes Jon got popped for PEDs yes that tarnished the legacy, but is he not the greatest talent that ever stepped in the ring? It’s also worth it to research how little was found of PEDs in his system not saying he didn’t cheat but there is some questionable evidence that could support Jon being a victim of tainted supplements atleast once. NOT SAYING HE DIDNT CHEAT.
But regardless what do you want from the dude? He’s got more title fights than any fighter, more title wins than any fighter, truthfully undefeated, had a couple close fights Gus/Santos/Reyes but did beat them. I would honestly say Gus was way closer than Reyes. Reyes gave up after round 2, from 3-5 was all Jon.
Dude went up and beat Cyrl to become champ, in spectacular fashion. Then beat Stipe in spectacular fashion. Sure Stipe is older, but he’s still Stipe. The fight got made like 2 years ago, Jon got injured and this was unfinished buisness. Did Stipe not deserve the shot? Was Dana supposed to just say fuck off Stipe, here’s Aspinal now. No. This is also why I don’t get the Jon Jones is ducking Aspinal, he’s not ducking him at all. He had unfinished business with Stipe. Aspinal keeps making videos saying Jon won’t fight him and that his in this weird spot and can’t obtain the belt. No you’re not, the clock just started ticking on even being able to receive a contract or review negations for a fight between either of them. Jon is right. What’s Aspinal have to offer him, Jon has been collecting legends under his belt like Thanos collecting infinity stones for coming on two decades now. Jon has money, he doesn’t need anything out of an Aspinal fight unless it’s as he stated “Fuck you money” and I don’t blame him. I hope he gets it, and beats Aspinals ass so everyone will shut the fuck up, he’s right Aspinal is annoying. We’ve seen Jones fight like 5-6 Aspinal like characters that were sure to beat him already..
So yeah hopefully we see JJ vs Aspinal, then get the Pereira fight. In a perfect world that’s how it happens.
Idk the RUclipsr who posted this honestly has me convinced he’s trolling, it’s just wild takes, completely hating.
I agree with most of what you said however you’re giving jones a bit too much slack. Jon cheated multiple times and he’s the LAST person I’d give the benefit of the doubt it. Don’t fall for the “tainted supplements” claim. Jon is a sociopath who will tell you whoever you need to hear to win you over.
As far as Tom, he had a really good chance to beat Jon, same with Francis. I do agree with you that Jon doesn’t need to fight Tom, however if Jon doesn’t plan to stay at heavyweight he needs to vacate the belt. Tom has already defended the interim belt and jones is actively ruining his career by holding the belt hostage. Jon is getting old so if he just wants to stick around for money fights then I’m perfectly fine with that as long as he doesn’t log jam the division like Connor did.
And here another weak beta male who is craving in admiration for a wife abuser all Time greatest cheater.
Trashcan
Calling Jon jones legacy overrated is crazy
I still remember the female interviewer asking Dana why jones is still here while other fighters have been suspended, and jones and his fanboys just boo the lady. Like just answer the question dude, why are you an ass, and now you’re crying? Stop that fake crying, Jon, you did all these shitty things, take accountability.
I think most people have turned on him, not because he cheated, not only because he’s done shitty things, but the fact that he has the audacity to walk around calling others disrespectful and acting like he’s innocent and righteous, like dude, you had years to clean up your act and you’re still acting like an ass.
Was this the reporter at the jones gus 2 press conference? When she asked why are we talking about what’s in jons system again and. Not the fight? And jones said sit down. And she said I am sitting down
@ yes, where’s she’s like “why did you test positive” turns to Dana and asks why he’s still there when Frank Mir got suspended for 2 years, and he’s like “next question” and tells her “better journalism, you suck”
You know you’re threatened by Jon Jones greatness when you gotta write a long as essay. People like you are the type to get punked in the streets. I can tell you had no friends in school.
@@yokaigypsywe werent in the streets because we had fathers.
Nobody cares except for dum blk people, and whiny whte people.
I’ll be honest I’m a Jon Jones hater, but even I can’t get behind this idea. As someone who’s been following the sport most of my life, his legacy is that of the greatest of all time. You can argue he lost a close decision to Reyes and beat an over the hill Stipe, but even if both those events were scrubbed from the record books, he’s still at worst the second greatest MMA fighter of all time behind GSP.
If you want to argue his first few fights were against lesser competition, that applies to every fighter on the roster. The fact of the matter is he cleaned out an entire division that was a murderers row. DC 2x, Gus 2x, Rampage, Shogun, Rashad, Machida, Sonnen, Vitor, Glover, Bonnar, Santos, Bader, Smith, OSP, Gane is probably the greatest resume in the history of the sport and it’s not even including his most recent win over the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time.
I can get behind this and agree. However the steroids have to be mentioned. So that puts everything in the air for me . What did they do when lance armstrong popped? Took everything away. It should be no different with jones. Who popped 3 different times. Sure his resume is the best. But he can never be the goat to me
Why people just can't accept the fact that jon jones just knows how to win.
I can accept it and I have. Jon jones has the best resume. And he’s on the longest unbeaten streak. But his comp as of late hasn’t been great and he’s a caught steroid cheat. If we’re talking about the “goat” this puts asteriks imo
@BunnyMMA one thing I can say about jon jones is that he's very cerebral in his approach,he's gonna do whatever it takes to win and use every advantage,some things I agree on what people say as far as how he's winning but that's apart of his intelligence winners just know what it takes to win.
Agreed. His resume isn't as good as people think. If he took on Tom and won it would be a huge win. But he's ducking it for a reason. He's the same age as many of the people he faced throughout his career. So don't use that as an excuse to avoid the fight, while propping him up with wins over the same age group. Most of his fights are with guys that are smaller and less reach. Combine all of this with the fact that he's been caught cheating and it's not as impressive as some people want to contend.
Call him what you want as a person but as a fighter he's not overrated. The thing with DC wasn't fair and it sucks. It sucks DC will never truly know if he could've beat Jon. BUT Jon with or without drugs and all the fuck ups is still the goat.
You're running on a bad assumption (that most UFC fighters are clean). Most all of them are on steroids at some point
ALL OF THEM are on steroids, all pro athlètes are.
But Jon ABUSES steroids, he uses them more and more often than anyone else.
Usada never supressed steroids, it regulated it, and Jon cheated there too
@ lol these crybabies . He cheated marginally more than I did! What a cheater!
@@StdsRbop1 you stupid ?
Usada was never there to stop the usage of peds, it's there to regulate it.
Athletes who get caught are the cheaters, they are the one who dont play by the rules.
It's like comparing someone who does one eye poke every ten fights to... Well Jon who uses it every minuts of each of his fights and builds entire gameplans on it
Being a good or bad person is irrelevant to the fact that he is a legend in his craft.
Fair he can be a legend. But you can’t deny he is a cheat. He popped for steroids multiple times. So. But fair play, he has the best resume
Actually, it's relevant because a bad person cheats with steroids and fights dirty with eye pokes.
If he wasn't busted numerious times for doping, I'd agree
@@BunnyMMAyou forget most mma take steroids. As an former D1 athlete, being around the best and seeing what the best would do to get the job done.
He had five layoffs, you have to take 4 months times five off that at least to account for breaks between fights. That’s nearly two years off your 8?year total. He decides to take 3 years off to get heavy enough that’s 2.5 years off your total that only 4 years inactivity and he tears a pec so that’s a year. So it’s only really three years inactivity. Santos was a destructive force going into the Jones fight as was Reyes. But Jones as a true champion won those last two rounds easily and would have won the next ten rounds if Reyes could have lasted. Reyes has not been the same since. He came up won the heavyweight as did Roy Jones Jr, at least Jones hung around to defeat he belt before he decided to go back and fight dudes his size. No one called Roy a duck when he said fuck ifc there is no way I am going to unify against Tyson. Get a grip everyone
Dude, you a straight hater.No man hasn't ever stopped john.
Yeah but what about the asterisks?
Losing to Dominick Reyes clearly 3-2
Popping for steroids multiple times
Not being able to finish a one legged Thiago santos
Taking Anthony smith to a decision
Ducking his interim champ Tom aspinall to fight a retired 42 year old firefighter .
How is this me hating? I’m giving reasons my guy
@@BunnyMMAsome people just can think objectively. Juicy Juice has always been overrated. 💯
@@512cbratchname a better resume then
@@melthework4511 “resume” doesn’t automatically make it reality. He lost to Reyes and Gustafsson #1, despite the judges. He had the Vegas venue moved to LA because Nevada wouldn’t sanction the fight due to him pissing hot.. again, for Gustafsson #2, and he has a No Contest vs DC due to pissing hot… again. That should be a loss on him too. Thats 4 losses we ALL can clearly see. So, in REALITY.. he’s actually 25-4. Not to mention he’s always fighting dudes 7-10 yrs older and now he’s ducking a guy 6 yrs younger. What a hypocrite. DC was 38 and Jones was 30 in their last fight. Juicy Juice is scared to death of Tom.
@@512cbratch I agree with a lot that you’re saying, but still name a better résumé. I hate Jon Jones guts, but he’s still the goat. The only argument is that you don’t consider someone who is on steroids to goat which is fair.
What he does out of the ring doesn’t matter to his skill set and accomplishments in the ring.
Doing steroids is in the ring champ. So therefore it’s cheating
We're now at the point new fans think Jones is overrated. People say this like it's a bad thing. Some would argue it's karma. To that I say nay. Rather, it's the result of the law of sowing and reaping, that law which is at work in us all. Sow to the flesh, reap of the flesh. Sow to the spirit, reap of the spirit. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear will understand.
Not a new fan bud. I’ve been watching the sport consistently since 2011. And a fan since 2004. Thanks for watching
If you don't know who Gusmo is bro , you have no business making content
This is Just a pure hatred 😂
😁😄😂😂😂
Let me make this point for you casuals. Pride middle weights fought at 205. So for all of you saying “Jon beat a bunch of pride middle weights” you’re actually saying Jon fought legit Light heavyweights. So you can all stfu with that argument.
Listen bud. There is no doubt that Jon jones is one of the most of not the most skilled mma fighter we’ve ever seen. His resume although I feel a little overrated is still the best. Yes you can be the best and be overrated as overrated simply means rated higher than you should be. He had some stinkers. He hasn’t been as dominant as everyone would like to suggest
The Gus 1 fight
Taking santos to a decision one one leg and nearly losing
Clearly losing to Dominick Reyes 3-2 and being gifted a decision
Taking Anthony smith to a decision
Ducking aspinall
Ducking ngannou
Doing steroids
At what point can we critique him? Are we just supposed to say yeah he destroyed everyone and it wasn’t even close? It’s just not true. And despite having a near foot reach advantage over nearly every opponent he faced he still had to go and juice? Was he not confident enough in his skills to win?
One can argue steroids don’t give you fight IQ. Which is true.
But it allows for easier recovery in training, less injuries. Better cardio and muscle mass. Which other fighters like dc who aren’t doing roids don’t have.
To conclude. I’m saying he is overrated to some degree and should be critiqued due to ducking certain opponents. Narrowly beating what we would call “mid fighters” and taking steroids. That’s it
@ you can have that opinion all you like. Truth is a majority of the fights Jon did have were against legends of the sport. Jon ruled over 205 when it was murders row. Narrowly beating “Mid fighters” brother who is a mid fighter fighting for a LHW belt in the UFC? You have some silly takes man. It’s one fight at a time in the UFC. Jones Beat Reyes 3-5 and would say the Gus fight was even closer, but that’s the game you play in MMA sometimes you have good showings and bad showings. When you find yourself taking something away from a fighter for winning a close entertaining fight you might be a hater. Jon Jones has never been involved in a robbery W fight. To say he ducked Ngannou putting on weight to go to heavy weight is kinda a hard argument to make. But I guess you can make it, idk man. You’re witnessing a one in a life time talent and you’re shitting all over him for clout. Tell me how over rated he is at the same time as telling me who has done all he has done and has all the accolades he has? You can’t be overrated at the top if you have nothing greater to be compared to. I’ll wait.
Wow out of this whole video that’s the one part you can argue 😂 I didn’t even hear that point lol
@ scroll through the comments I argued a majority of the video. I just wanted to adress this point.
😂😂 mma fans.
You know they just talk nonsense, and we all know “which” fighters they prefer. 😂😂😂
Jon was the goat until after the DC fight. the OSP, Smith, Santos, Reyes fights were so bad
Facts. He was regarded higher back then. These days it’s a joke
If he had fought Jan he would get knocked the fcck out!
don't most ufc fighters take juice
We can’t say for sure, I believe guys like Mighty Mouse. And stipe, and a bunch of other guys were clean. But we can’t just say “oh everybody is on juice” so he gets a pass
All of them, but under usada's control and rules
Jon ABUSES of steroids
We’re now at the point ppl think Jon jones is overrated and new mma fans and casuals ignoring his stuff in the octagon
Kids these days do not understand nor keep similar energy towards Aspinal. Jones beat 7 nobodies in 1 year to get into the UFC. His second fight was Stephan Bonnar the Stephan Bonnar with legendary Forest fights. Go look at Aspinals first couple years he got destroyed by Clark who never made it to UFC getting taken down tons. From there we are talking pure legends. I think when people look at the names and level of competition is wild. Kahbib beat 20+ school teachers and cab drivers to fluff his record and only last handful were the top guys. Aspinal has a couple big name wins. Acting like OSP and Thiago Santos are easy fights to finish. Reyes ran too much and fight was in Texas so being the aggressor matters more and you need more significant shots like in round one if you run the whole time.
As someone who's been watching MMA since Sylvia vs. Arlovski 2, this video made me laugh.
moving laterally is not running.
@@marlock6573what was funny about it old man?
@@SoyDuckHot go watch who did all the pressuring and controlled the Octagon...it's basically trying to counter strike and backup the entire fight
I don’t like Jon Jones as a person but you can’t take away what’s he’s done as a fighter. It feels like you’ve recently started watching MMA and don’t understand exactly how great all his opponents were.
lol bro I’ve been watching the sport since 2004. Definitely not recent
@@BunnyMMAJust say you had Jones because you say women beating Dana white has a video of him slapping his wife keep the same energy now stop watching UFC then
Shogun was 1-1 in the UFC and would be a gatekeeper the rest of his career everybody knows his prime was during pride, Rampage was 3 years removed from his title reign and only had 2 more UFC fights before heading to bellator, Lyoto was 1-2 in his last 3 had 3 more fights at 205 before moving to 185 and trading wins and losses, Rashad was 3 years removed from his title reign coming off a knee injury would move to 185 and would only win 3 more fights his entire career, Vitor 8 years removed from his title reign vitor had been fighting at 185 the past 4 years and didn't beat any lhw to get a title shot, Chael fought at middleweight the last 6 years before the Jon fight he was 2-2 in his last 4 going into the fight he was coming off a TKO loss and would trade wins and losses the rest of his career. His resume isn't as impressive as people say they were great at one time not when Jon beat them.
@ no because I don’t watch the ufc to see Dana white. I watch it for the fighters
@@BunnyMMA Yee bro keep the same energy stop with the bs
btw anthony smith could have played the illegal knee to be worse then win by DQ
lol that would have been hilarious tbh
Just because you hate someone doesn’t mean they ain’t the greatest 😊
lol I don’t hate anyone. Dislike. Sure.
But being the greatest requires you to be “great” so to speak.
How can you be great beating women and taking steroids? Cheating in competition? Why does everyone give JJ a free pass on steroids. But when we’re talking other guys popping they instantly get there entire career thrown away
Beautiful vid, I’m glad people are waking up to this, Jon is no goat in any sense of the term
thanks man! Appreciate it
Jones is the goat.........
At ducking
who has a better record and beat former champions like jones uit the cap mad cause jones best to ever do it
@ the best to ever do it when he’s tested positive the most times in ufc history. You’re delusional
@@BLACKRULERSHIP lol Most weight classes don't have the belt hot potatoing around to be able to fight multiple past their prime former champions so quit with that bs argument.
Your channels taking off bro. Good shit, as an MMA nerd, we need more unfiltered and straight forward takes. Where else would we argue with each other in comment sections?
Lmao thanks champ! And yes we do
I dont think he lost againts reyes. At the end reyes was so gassed out and jones had the energy to keep going for 5 more rounds. It has to count for something
Well maybe if we were judging the fight as a whole then sure. But fights are judged round by round basis. And Reyes clear as day won round 123 and jones won 45. So based off the judging criteria Dominick Reyes won that fight. You don’t win because you won the last rounds. That’s not how the fights are scored
And that matters why, exactly? It doesn't matter if a guy looks the same as he did in the 1st or if they're too tired to even stand after that final bell sounds. It doesn't count for anything significant enough to change the fact that over the course of a five round fight, you lost more rounds than you won. Maybe Jones would have earned a legitimate decision win if there had been five more rounds. Maybe he could have 10-8'd Reyes in rounds 6-10. Maybe he could have stopped Reyes in the very first second of round 6. Knocked him out cold or submitted him. Unfortunately though, none of those hypotheticals mean shit because world championship fights are scheduled for five rounds and five rounds maximum. Been that way for a long time now.
@@basedlord8247 I get what you mean, but we love glazing jones. We will find any excuse to do it lol. After watchinig Jon Jones vs DC 2, Nganou vs Miocic and Jon Jones vs Miocic. I can tell that Jon is not the same anymore sadly the age is slowing him down a bit. And Nganou demolished Miocic it was a much more dominant victory compared to what Jones did. Probably shouldnt fight aspinal, just give up the belt and retire
Reyes was still throwing more strikes in the last 2 rounds he just wasn't landing as many lmao the winner isn't determined by who's less tired if so than the less active guy would be the winner every time.
PEDs or not is understanding of how to fight is untouchable which is why he's the goat and it's okay to dislike greatness.
22 minutes of hating
Big W
wow I wonder why anyone would hate a wife beater its crazy am i right its almost like people will unanimously hate you if you beat your wife
Of truth*
Doesn't mean it isn't true
can’t handle the truth snowflake your boyfriend jones won’t let you bone let it go
Glad you started with you being a casual and being delusional makes everything you say after that hilarious to me.
Hey man we all gotta be a little self aware. Can’t tell rather you’re roasting me or not. Either way thanks for watching
The LHW is and was a rather lacking division, its why Jon stands out so much, in reality he doesn't compare to the other contenders for goat status
Indeed. The light heavyweight division outside of jones and DC. And maybe glover has been weak the last like 10 years
It's just statistics really, If you get 100 men in a room how many have the build to be good LHW's? I doubt its higher than 3 or 4. How many would be good LW? Probably like 25+.
Then add the fact that most athletic dudes big enough to be LHW or HW go into less brutal sport/more popular sports where the money is better (basketball, American football, rugby, even boxing) and you get left with a division that has a talent pool 20 times smaller than the division's closer to average male weight (FW, LW and WW).
@@mr.tomatohead3709 said no one who isn’t a casual ever
LHW during Jones prime was the most stacked division of all time.
Jones, DC, Anderson Silva, Rumble, Rampage, Sugar, Gus, Santos, TRT Vitor, Glover and those are just the tip of the iceberg. You can not name a single fighter in the top 15 who wasn’t a killer at that time. Even outside the top 15 it was a shark tank.
No division has been as stacked ever since. Not prime Stipes HW, not 2016-current LW, not 2022-now Featherweight and Flyweight…not a single division has come close again.
You showing how much time he takes off and still comes back and wins proves another reason why hes the best
Haha exactly this weirdo is a complete hater
Because he cherry picks his opponents lmao he refused to fight Tom despite him being the interim champ. It doesn’t matter if stipe had been booked, the fight was cancelled. Anyone else would’ve been stripped for that duck
Nah you are just a casual
lol I gave my points and you still choose to say I’m a “casual” yet I’ve been a fan of the sport since 2011. And have consistently been watching sense 2015. But yeah. I’m a “casual”
Thanks for watching champ
Casual its say Jon Jones have the best legacy
you jones fanboys have the worst comebacks
Why can jon glazers never make actual arguments?
@@BunnyMMA then you should know that bones is perfectly capable of dealing with aspinal, I really hope he takes that fight, just to see what all the haters do 💀
Instant sub! Welldone with exposing this fraud
Yes sir! Appreciate ir
this guy is coping HARD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lol bro it’s not that serious. I’m not going to cry over ufc. I just state my opinion and move on. We all know Tom aspinall is the real heavyweight champ 💪
you are you was on the brink of tears in the video 😂😂😂😂😂😂 sad bc bones can’t be beaten it makes you sick to see him on top your a hater and that’s a terrible trait you have femininity in your traits
@@BunnyMMAyou are a fkin hater your opinion never mAtters
@@BunnyMMAwhat grown man openly says he’s hating on another grown man not a straight one q u e e r
lol jones has femininity in his traits. Enough to not feel secure enough to not take steroids and cheat. Imagine a man so insecure he had a height and reach advantage over every opponent he’s ever faced but still had to go roids. And beats his wife in front of his children. What a stand up guy Jon jones is!
*Jon is not having a good week* 😂😂😂
Hey man someone had to say it 😂
@@BunnyMMA Hey man i also made a vid on the ducking so eh, you gave me an idea for another thing we as MMA fans need to consider though. Poor Jon he might not cry like Izzy but people are coming after him just as bad if not worse.
Good stuff man. I’ll give it a watch when I have some time
@BunnyMMA hehe thanx man this is more for the fun of it, im building a time capsule filled with my hobbies inside. 🫡
@EBMproductions1: not good, great!
Ypu've put words to what I've always felt but never stated out loud. Big respect and you're 100% right.
When we speak of Martial Artists, we speak of people who have unified body mind and spirit. They are leaders who lead by example, and have almost always acted as role models to others who want to achieve what they have. As even a concept, Jones is the opposite of a Martial Artist. He is a coward (flees the scene after hitting someone with his car), has no responsibility towards his family (beats his wife), and is a snitch. Forget Martial Artist, this guy is furthest thing from even a good man. He's a disgrace, and needs to be treated as such.
We risk not only the legacy of the UFC by glorifying this coward, but we're actively choosing to tell our young ones that he is someone we should aspire to be like. That is disgraceful.
Exactly man. For me greatness isn’t just performances inside the cage. Can people look up to you? That has to be mentioned. Jon jones can’t be great. He took steroids and beat his wife. He is a disgrace of a man
This guy looks like Sean Strickland's brother.
I might be 👀
What do you think of people saying “well if you’re gonna critique the PEDs for jones look at every dagestani, it’s well known they take it and have been caught for it”🥴. Still
Never seen a more rage bait video in my life lmaooo
Lmao not rage bait. Being dead serious lol
why would anyone get angry over calling a wife beating steroid cheat overrated. it doesnt matter what aspect its in no one should be defending this man let his legacy die and be forgotten
@@cammytsunami3427 brother you watch and support the ufc Dana white is one of the heads of that company there is a video of him slapping his wife if we go based on your logic you should stop watching the UFC then go watch PFL or some shit
@monkey3896 but no one likes dana white what's your point you never see people glazing him everyone knows he's a bad guy. To try and act like it's excusable because someone else does just means your bias
@ no I’m not if you take your eyes and read what’s he said you wouldn’t write some stupid shit like that
4:13 he made Anthony Smith give up lmao
Did he tho? Why couldn’t he finish one of the worst and weakest title challengers in Anthony smith? Why did he struggle against a one legged thiago santos? Why did he lose to Dominick Reyes? Why is he ducking aspinall? Interesting stuff
@ he did lmao I watched the fight recently TJ Dilla once said that Anthony just gives up and is why he isn’t champion and I hate to say it but I saw it in that in the Jones fight. Like you said in more recent years Jones became a decision guy he doesn’t really knock ppl out like that.
And yeah that was pretty sad he couldn’t finish Santos and yeah he def lost to Dominick but tbf he looked average compared to his usual prime ability because years prior he fought like once a year do ring rust is probably a factor we don’t see a lot of his unorthodox fight style in that fight.
He also was fighting Anthony because he had already cleaned out the division. Calling Jon's resume as "soft" is a terrible argument when theres literally people who come into the UFC and fight 3 people before getting a title fight while Jon is one of the only fighters ever to clean out their division after what, defending the title 9 times?
@@Tybalt. not really, Jones could fight Glover or Jan but chose Smith instead. That is what you call cherrypicking. He knows Glover and Jan could knock the fcck out of him that is why he chose Smith and cant even finish him. Jones = Duck
@gutsglory3625 Glover was 2-2 at that point just beating Karl Robertson. Smith was coming off 3 in a row all finishes with 2 of them being former LHW champs. Jan had just got TKOd by Thiago less than a month before. What are you talking about?
he has 13 title defenses
Mostly against middleweights lmao
@RySL66: That fake narrative could easily be debunked.
@@RySL66Gus, glover santos, dc, lyoto, shogun were middleweights?? Jesus you need come up with your own opinion
all fighters you names are 10 years older than him more proof of his Disney wwe career he was given everything from the start he never had competition
@shamardag you mentioned 5 out 13. That's not mostly so OPs point still stands.
this nga SPITTIN!! why bro ain’t never fight anderson Silva? why he befriend Izzy instead of fighting bro? Why he ain’t fight Francis? but he chose a cyril who can’t wrestle , wants a Alex who can’t wrestle , wanted and got a stipe whose been inactive and past his prime.
Jon was younger, taller, and had more reach than DC and STILL cheated to beat him.
Yo, can you do ranking on UFC fighters shorts?
Maybe next weeks video 👀👀
Jon jones is the goat. He beats everyone
Thanks for watching
Every time Jon says the word "legacy" it has less and less value
He's still in my top 5 in the goat discussion but I have never liked him
Me? Or Jon jones? Can tell if you’re roasting me or not lol
@@BunnyMMA Jon not you😂 sorry
😂😂 no worries
The problem is that the juri picked an excuse of the control time to not just give a victory to Reyes and cut the "undefeated" marketing proposal of Jon Jones, in the end UFC is a sport but it's also a business. But I would not dare to say that Jones is overrated anyway, and fighting middleweights just give him more credit because he was the target of everyone and always won, with eye pokes, steroids yeah, not the best person in the world for sure, but one of the top 5 GOATs fore sure
I just don’t feel like attacking Jon Jones resume is the way to undermine his legacy. Perspective is very important. Everyone fights nobodies before top competition, in any professional combat sport. because they are all essentially NOBODIES together. You going at guys like Gusmao and Jake O Brien means nothing, he was just starting out. Stephen Bonnar was his first true test in 2009 being an established veteran, had nothing to do with how good he is all-time. Brandon Vera was a decent win in 2010, being that he was pretty accomplished outside the UFC prior. Although Shogun wasn’t in his prime in 2011, the narrative was that Jones might actually struggle with the champ. In hindsight it might not be all amazing but back then, nobody expected a young JBJ to run through the legend like that. There’s a reason it’s considered one of the most iconic title victories in UFC history. I never understood the Anthony Smith logic. It’s easy to say that win is “embarrassing” when looking at at the last five years or so of Lionheart’s career, but in 2018 he was a pretty decent fighter. He was not a can YET. How else would he have got the title shot if he wasn’t half-good? Outside of the illegal knee, Bones absolutely dominated that fight. Regardless of going to a decision with him, it still wasn’t remotely competitive at any point. People who actually watched the fight would know Jones had multiple opportunities to end it, but I genuinely think he wanted to be in there that long. He literally emptied the entire bag of strikes he knew, a 25 minute technical destruction. He wasn’t standing around, stalling, like some decision artists. Anyone who enjoys pure skill enjoyed that bout. Same thoughts for the OSP fight, Jon said himself in the post-fight presser that he didn’t wanna take risks knowing the dangers of St Preux. The goal was to snag the interim and get out with minimal damage, which he did just that. There’s nothing wrong with a few decisions. Even the Thiago Santos fight, even on one leg he was very tough and DANGEROUS. Jones recognized that and still fought him as if he wasn’t compromised. That’s IQ. The logic that he should’ve rushed into those flurries and risk getting clipped is stupid. Also, I never believed that fight was even close, Jones clearly won. Jones landed almost 20 more total strikes and outstruck him in every round but R1. Most of those rushing hooks that Santos was using were misses if you slow down the tape. His pressure created the illusion that he was outpointing his opponent, but that wasn’t the case. He really only landed clean a handful of times. You must understand that a guy most likely isn’t going to submit/ko every opponent he comes across. Gameplans and strategies aren’t always the same. It’s actually hilarious to me that people use Jon’s winning performances against him. The only fight he genuinely fought horrid in to me was against Reyes, being to passive for the first three rounds, poor defense, and only picking up the activity in the championship rounds. The Dominick Reyes loss, steroids are valid points and even then I don’t think it’s enough to say he isn’t the goat. Resume isn’t the way to do this.
Jones moving to HW ducked 14 ranked fighters for the belt. That's legacy.
This is pathetic let it go😂 go document how trash Connor and Sean was.😒
Lol let it go? A steroid cheat? Women abuser? Okay buddy
And yes Conor and Sean are trash to. I keep that same energy for all shit fighters. Don’t worry they will have there own videos too
@ Oh so you haven’t geez 🙄 I wonder why. You all worship the ground they walked on. Even with their🐕 💩 records. What made them so special. 🤔 Maybe it was the green trunks idk. Threatening to pew pew or unalive people and beat on the elderly fine but y’all draw the line at woman beating great moral compass. I can really sense the virtue.😂
@@BunnyMMA you bitch too much stop watching the ufc 70% of the fighters have a past we are human stop acting like you have to be an angel go watch Bag girls club or something you bitch too much
People give Jon shit for ducking Nganu but like what other fighters are we asking to fight someone with a solid 40+ extra lbs of muscle on them.
If Jon would have stayed at light heavyweight no one would have said anything. It’s the fact that he said he wanted to go up to heavyweight. But then priced himself out of the ngannou fight. It’s like if you don’t wanna fight a guy that’s 40 pounds bigger than maybe don’t say you wanna fight at heavyweight? Because it’s a bad look. Oh I wanna fight at heavyweight but only against favorable matchups.
I hate him purely because he never owns his villainy like he should. If he just came out and said "Im not a good person. I do steroids. I beat women. I hit pregnant women in cars. I poke eyes. I kick kneecaps trying to injur people permanently. I hide under rings to duck usada. Reyes beat me. I even party the night before fights. I am a shitty dood.". I would then respect him.
Exactly. Bro tried to play the “I’m the nice guy act” and we all see right through it
He’s gotten away with it so many times probably believes it lmao he’s never faced real consequences for any of it. Daddy Dana always bailed him out
Don’t care he still the goat
With his resume? I can’t argue not,
But the PEDS do put a stain
And the ducking aspinall looks bad
But fair enough. Jon jones is the goat.
And then we have Alex Preira who at least is fighting opponents his size
Jon jones fought overblown middleweights most of his LHW career. Outside of a few guys
@ yeah few guys like Alexander Gustaffson, DC, Dominick Reyes, Thiago Santos and OSP
@@AdityaaT100alex pereira is getting matched up against strikers and not grapplers😂
@@fryhyhok and
Pereira is a HW who spent most of his career fighting MWs in MMA and kickboxing. He's still noticeably bigger than everybody at 205.
wow i don’t think i’ve ever heard imagine, would’ve, could’ve, & possibly so much in a vid
Having the belt stripped from him twice should DQ him from any GOAT convo, he has hurt the sport more than has helped it.
Agreed. But for whatever reason Dana is riding his nuts going around saying Jon is number one this and that. I truly believe this is a master plan to have one up on Francis ngannou. Dana loves that jones smoked gane and ngannou struggled. He loves that. And he’s created a narrative that Francis didn’t wanna fight jones. It was the exact opposite. Jon ducked Francis and now is ducking tom. Incredible
keep crying we like to see it just like he made DC cry 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And then joined him in it, acting like he's the victim with them crocodile tears 🤦
@@32bit27 who are you talking about
@@campaingsosa300he’s talking about Jones goofy
that why theirs 4k video is jones apologizing and crying to dc and everyone bc he’s a cheating bum ☠️☠️☠️
Funny people hate but at 37 would wipe the whole light heavy weight division with his ass
Would he? What happened when he was 32 against Reyes?
@@BunnyMMAwell...he won
This one is for Jones fanboys. Why did Jones take 3 years off while Ngannou was reigning as Champ?
Exactly. Which was it? Ducking ngannou? Or secretly serving USADA suspension
With a minute and a half left, Gus had nearly an 8:1 headstrike advantage (88 to 12) before that spinning elbow. Gus schooled Bones for 3.5 rounds, no doubt won the 1st 3rds and only lost 4 when Jones landed that elbow.
Taking a one legged Santos to a SD is a loss in itself to me, and I just watched the Reyes fight again, no doubt lost 1-3. Jones record is 27-2 at best with Hamil overturned (shouldn't be but for arguments sake) or 26-3, and he'd lose to Tom 100% and I don't see him lasting 5 mins
* Also, Shogun was comimg off his 2nd major knee surgery and Jones literally got a short notice title fight with a legend after beating like 1 top 10 win. Imagine if Shogun turned down Jones "Nah, he's way younger, taller, massive reach and weighs more than me, with a strong wrestling base. Nah, he hasn't done anything yet...."
But Jon jones fans will say you’re a hater. You’re jealous . He’s still the goat. Keep crying . ETC. the delusion of his fans defending him is unreal, a steroid cheat and a women abuser is the “goat” of the sport, let that sink in
Shouldn't he also have lost against Anthony Smith by DQ and Chael by doctor's stoppage?
Then I wouldn’t be here making this video. We all know Anthony smith is the goat
John jones is the goat!
And I’m a rabbit! Thanks for watching
So with everything he’s done him ducking Tom Aspinall is the final straw for why he’s a bad person and you see him differently 😭😭😭
do you think steroids gives you a better fight IQ or a better chin?
Helps with recovery. Less injuries
Muscles mass
All advantages that other fighters who don’t do them don’t have. So
I think you should make a video talk about the UFC running out of superstar, I think that’s why Dana has been hyping up Jon because they need more big star to fight. Theres a punch of new champions that not a lot people care about besides Alex. And I also think that Dana wanting the UFC to be bigger then any of there fighters, so to not let any fighter get to big were they can demand more money. He wants everybody to be happy with bare minimum but that is the issue of no new superstars in the sport because they know that Dana isn’t going to pay them what there worth. and that’s why all the old fighters end up doing boxing to try and get some money at the end of there career.
People are now realising with Jon Jones body, he doesn't have chicken legs. He has duck legs.
Indeed. I 100% agree
But can you whoop him if you can't stfu / let warriors be warriors b.a.n
LOL
id agree if this guy genuinely hates jon and eagerly waiting for him to lose, but then again he can have his opinions on him.
@@capolean2902 but the thing is he’s talking like If JJ is the only fighter that has bad on his legacy bro
"comfortably beats daniel cormier" thats a big deal to me, especially when dc wanted those wiks soooo bad.
I can’t stand Jon jones either but his wins from bader to DC are all incredible names.
This is the dumbest take I’ve ever heard in my life. Jones is the goat period
lol okay champ. Thanks for watching
Is this the real Dana White?
@ you pick anybody on the planet and put them in the room with Jon, Jon’s the one walking out every single time…the kids that good. What was the question again?
Everyone knoes apsinall is walking out. @@tyronekane1
Jones no.2 ballsack gargller only second to dana white 😂
The Gane fight was fixed I dont care what anyone says Gane threw it. Dana made Gane do it.
It sure appeared that way lol. Gane didn’t even try
Jones is the greatest fighter of all time! There will always be a reason to push someone off the GOAT talk but skill for skill Jon is the best to ever step in a cage. I'm not a fan of his but I won't judge his personal character. Every fighter tries to have an advantage over the other sometimes its legal "cheating" as in being a weight bully. The reality is Jon like other fighters had close fights and idc what media members say and they opinions they give they're just fans with blogs/podcast. Jon is the best because he wins regardless of what he has done outside the cage the man has the greatest argument for GOAT
Jones never fights, he may as well have been retired and I wouldn’t know the difference. 🦆 🦆 🪿
Let’s see what happens now
Matyushenko was more of a journey man than a cab driver tbh and Vera at the time was more of a prospect…
Lmao fair enough
I agree, Jon beat a bunch of champion fighters far past their primes. Lost to reyes, ducking Tom aspinal.
A man of culture. Real ones know. People love to pad his record and say oh dude “he beat former champions” yeah okay buddy a bunch of washed pride middleweights who were 7-9 years older than him
You can't simultaneously duck and be the GOAT. Id put Silvia higher than him in the GOAT conversation. He lost to Weidman but at least he fought him. Thats better than ducking, ducking is basically an automatic loss. You forfeited the challenge.
GSP is the GOAT.
Facts. The “goats” fight the best. Not run when the competition gets tough. When jones was 30 and dc was 38. He fought jones. While he was juiced.
Now aspinall at 31 and jones at 37. Aspinall is too young for him apparently
@BunnyMMA that's one thing that got me. I looked up Aspinalls age. Thought he was 29 for some reason by the way Jon's been talking. He's only 6 years from Jon, and Jon just fought someone 5 years older than him! So what's the difference? And like you said he built a career off fighting old middleweights and 38 yrs old DC
Gane took a dive, no one can convince me otherwise. There is footage of him in the same position fighting the hands, not just sitting there with his hands on Jones back.
It appeared that way. No one talks about this.
@@BunnyMMA oh God 🤦🏾♂️😂
Jon Jones:
🦆Aspinall
🦆Ngannou
🦆Any young prospect
Old heads/Ez fights🗿🤺
Most accurate comment on this video lol
Jon Jones is the goat. His resume is the best
Thanks for watching
@BunnyMMA you think Tom is going take over the game when he's not. The heavy weight division is the weakest division for years. The only thing worth talking about has been Frank Mir, Brock, Cain and Jon Jones. Only reason Stipe even come up is by way of Daniel. I didn't know anything about him until that fight.
overrated resume, GSP has way more impressive record and is the actual GOAT.
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Jon jnoes is completely TRASH because the ufc couldn't find him better people to fight. They were grabbing the best fighters in the world at the time to go against him and i know they couldve done better than that - they couldve at least put him against a superhero or a space alien or something i mean cmon. If jon jones isnt fighting the incredible hulk next fight then his whole career dosent count anymore. 😂 You guys are creative and hilarious im sure he watches these videos and laughs while he wipes down his championship belts😆😂
Lmao I’m sure he does. Man is so insecure he had to do steroids his whole career despite having a reach and height advantage over every opponent
@BunnyMMA he didn't HAVE to he just wanted to. He proved that🤷🏾. He wins so much yall hate has grown to delusional levels 🎚️😂
Lmao they won’t be satisfied til he beats cosmic armor Superman 😭
In my opinion if he fought Rumble, he would have been sent to the shadow realm
Damn you think so? That 13 second ko of rumble was nuts
Now Jones wants to fight random fights like Derek Lewis and Hill. Looks like he doesn't want legacy fights anymore. Most likely Jones will fight every HW and LHW except Tom Aspinall
People are mad Jon won't fight a British guy who gets tired after big 3 or 4 combos. Jon uses Steroids my dude. Tom has been cracking natty fighters like Serghei and Curtis Blaydes so he looks good. But he's not ready for Jon who is taking the Super Soldier Serum from Captain America. XD
Lmao at least you admit he’s on roids. Respect brother
Overrated yet your GOAT? Do you know what overrated means?>
go watch anime weeb
He just said in the first 30 seconds of the video that Jones isn't his GOAT anymore. Come on bro it's not that hard to listen
@@MontyElazegui No that's my point, his entire premise is absurdly pedantic to the point it makes 0 sense! How is someone overrated if you're comparing him to respective fighters in his weight-class? Why would someone like GSP who has done the same thing with worse opponents (objectively) be better? Just to proceed to keep him on his list?
@@WellHeyyyyour reply makes literally no sense
You can be the best and still be overrated. Overrated simply means higher rated than you should be
Bunny if u can please stream tonight we miss the streams already I know u be busy tho I get it
Bro I got you!