@@BunnyMMA the problem is if you rewatch fight santos and reyes did less damag than stipe they got outworked on other hand would agree with khabib trashy record
chale was trash, only good at trashtalking and quite wrestling, he had nothing else lmao, people like to say hes a legend and undefeated and alalt but he sucks
I think Aldo still being able to get wins long after his prime is impressive. Hes still proven hes not an easy fight. Also did you see Jiri Vs Hill will be happening?
I think dj’s title defenses are arguably a bit underrated. I constantly hear people say “bro, who did he fight, just nobodies”, but you gotta remember, most of these dude’s spent their entire prime under dj’s reign, if dj didn’t exist some of them would probably be considered legendary champions with a few title defenses under their belt each, because DJ was there they all just ended up being remembered as “that guy dj beat” or “that guy dj beat twice”. Dj was just so good it took an olympic gold medalist and future double champ to make it look like he wasn’t fighting cans. And even then it took cejudo two tries to win a controversial split decision over him.
Volk's Max Holloway wins are so good because he fought the Max across various spans of Featherweight contention. Max and Volk were so ahead of everyone that Max was beating contenders, amassing "defences in a way", and looked like a real problem going into their third fight.
What did it for me about Anderson Silva was how he made look former 205 champ, Forrest Griffin. Ok he wasn't elite but making a former champ look like an amateur upper 1 weight class makes me believe he could have been double champ before Jones erupted
@@BunnyMMAI mean Connor was talkin that talk but he probably was thinking he would piece him up as he goes for a takedown but the boxing fucked up his wrestling defense
With DJ, I think people confuse ‘name value’ for ‘level of competition’. Most of the guys that DJ beat are higher level/more skilled than a lot of the guys that say…Jon Jones, GSP or Khabib beat. But the guys they beat have more name value and people assume name value = better/more skilled
Khabib would have beat Tony maybe in the later years . But Ferguson in his prime would have beaten Khabib. He ducked Ferguson when he hasn’t ducked any other opponent. Tony’s elbows would be waiting for Khabib.
I don’t disagree with any of your takes, thought I would, but I don’t. Your overall take about Jon being undefeated is fair, imo. But to say he has clearly been beaten, is objectively false though. R3 vs Reyes comes down to damage vs output. If you value damage then JJ won that round. If you value output Reyes got it. Gus 1 is an amazing fight could’ve went either way. Santos needed double leg surgery after that fight. You can “argue” they beat Jones, nobody has *clearly* beat Jones. Khabib is a weight bully, man. He’s great don’t get me wrong but man I feel like he never faced any top dog at the right time. Retired early but I respect it regardless. Anderson Silva resume is an argument I’ve been making myself so I appreciate your take but I’d argue strength of schedule doesn’t matter during an era where he was carrying UFC on his back and he was super exciting.
Imma make a guess for Mighty Mouse that it’s his striking is overrated only because he is really good at BJJ and wrestling too he just throws hands a lot too Edit: I was wrong it was who all he fought against with the title on him
Islam is khabib's pupil, he is just this good because of the things khabib taught him, he said it himself, saying islam is better beucase he fought one wrestler is just crazy to me. Islam also commented on how he could never win a spar against khabib.
He’s Khabib’s father’s pupil more so than Khabib’s pupil. They sparred when Khabib was in his prime and Islam was pre prime. Islam right now is definitely better than Prime Khabib skill for skill. Only thing Khabib takes is aggressive grappling offense and chin, but Islam is better in pretty much every other category
Islam would absolutely school Khabib if they ever fought... Khabib was a one dimensional wrestler, Islam says Khabib would beat him but that's because he's just too humble
@@jocoolshowIslam is more complete, but saying Khabib is slightly better wrestler is a reach, he's miles ahead of Islam in terms of wrestling. Yes, he's one dimensional, but when you're that good at something you can't just say "That's all he has". Just look at the Gaethje fight, the flawless way how he transitions from a double leg to a triangle in like 15 seconds is insane, it almost looks scripted. Islam could never do that on the ground. I don't know prime for prime who could've beat who, but what Khabib was good at no one else was, like, not even second closest...
@@reclutacontramontina5354 Against predominant strikers. Islam already has a better resume. Even if he loses to Arman he is still better than Khabib in my book
Jon jones being a bmf for all these people he’s defeated is overrated, he refused a short notice chael, which shows he’s not an anywhere anytime guy. Then he came back once Francis left, he wanted to fight stipe over Sergei & once Tom became interim he still chose stipe
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@BunnyMMA it's not, every fighter has a thing to use against but some of them more than others like I'm a Khabib fan tbh but I fight yo opinions like Jon Jones fans I just love ufc and that's it 😁💪
If GSP doble champ is overrated, Jones is too. Won the belt out of the "least well rounded of the top 5 HW" and a geriatric Stipe. Bc if he faced Ngannou or Aspinall he wouldn't make it
How are you going to say a loss on paper is a loss when it comes to volk to say he’s overrated yet not apply the same logic for jones win against Reyes? Bias logic goes crazy in mma RUclips
Conor in round 3 against was stuffing most of the takedowns. Conor put up a better performance than Poirier and Gaethje. Shame that people only think of the submission
Aldo is not "4:4" at bantamweight, the Bautista fight was a blatant robbery, he clearly beat Bautista. He also beat Moraes, even though that was a closer fight and a less obvious W than Bautista. He's 6:2 at bw, only lost to the 2 greatest bws of all time Merab and Yan
@BunnyMMA Doesn't matter what he is on paper, he won the fights, judges are not infallible, more like the exact opposite, robberies happen all the time. Jones lost to Reyes, Rinat lost to Leal, Adesanya lost to Romero, Bisping lost to Hamill, GSP lost to Hendricks, Lawler lost to Condit, Albazi lost to KKF and so on. Aldo clearly won the 2nd and 3rd round, he won 2 out of 3 rounds against Bautista, therefore he won the fight. You're not winning fights by getting outstruck and outdamaged and then holding your opponent against the cage without doing anything. That the judges failed to judge correctly once again doesn't change it. The Moraes fight was at least a close fight, it's at least kind of arguable who won the 3rd round. But Aldo edged it. He's 6:2
This is actually a very great video. And you're right Khabib is the most overrated fighter. The best fighters he had fought never threatened his style and he knew that and wanted to fight guys like Justin and Dustin who were demolished by other guys as well.
@@SamaBRJ I respectfully disagree. Khabib is actually my greatest ever. He stood with and got the better of McGregor, Gaejthe, Poirier, and Aiaquinta in striking exchanges during their fights with him just to do it. That's how good he actually was. He was standing with Gaejthe and jabbing him up, exchanging leg kicks with him, etc., Stockton slapping McGregor and dropping him, landing crisp boxing on Poirier, on and on. I wish we could have seen more grapplers challenge him but he would have probably smoked them as well.
@@JohnnyMonday He didn't exactly get the better of Gaethje in the striking exchanges. Also, Khabib's takedown threat makes it easier for him to strike with his opponents. The top fighters that Khabib fought aren't as good as the fighters that GSP and Jon Jones fought. Srsly if you'll look at the combined records of their opponents, Khabib's opponents have a worse combined record compared to the opponents of Jon Jones and GSP. Khabib's a legend but he's hella overrated. He never truly cleaned out his division unlike guys like Jon Jones, DJ, GSP, and even Anderson Silva. Guess what, Khabib never even challenged a champion from another weight class. Also, Khabib isn't exactly the most well-rounded. It's mainly his wrestling that garners him success. GSP and DJ are better examples of what peak MMA looks like cuz they're actually great in both striking and grappling and they know how to mix them up effectively. One does not have to be undefeated to be the GOAT. The GOAT can be someone who overcomes adversities (like defeats) in redeeming fashion as well as carve a decently long run of excellence. Khabib is at best the #4 or #5 greatest fighter of all time.
To say he got "brutalized" by Yan is just crazy, the first 3 rounds were crazy close when he was 35.. To be fair, I am not gonna take away from Yan, maybe if he was 33 he would've won.. But that's still a great win for Yan. What I am trying to say is go rewatch the fight, just like most Aldo losses, he seemed to have gassed out.
@@christianwalker3670bigger names? I dont think so, aldo has more defenses (arguable because they where wec defenses) but the quality of competition most definitely goes to volk
I agree with everyone on the list except Volk....nah shitting on a resume of Mendes,Aldo, Ortega, Yahir, Korean Zombie and Halloway(X3) aint it😂...thats a way better resume than big former champs like Silva, DJ ,Izzy, Usman,Aldo etc
when it comes to khabib i think his entire goat debate is overrated. he was p4p number one, no doubt about that, but only 3 defences is way too little to be put in those conversations. to me even pereira has a better career then him and it is not even over.
Yep. Issue with khabib is he never fought anyone that could give his style trouble. Like a Tony or Charles in there prime. That’s why I have Islam above him.
volk take is crazy he fought all different styles & max halloway 3 different times & was #1 pfp at the time wether you like it or not after that second islam fight on *10 days notice* ,he hasn't been the same ofc
I understand what you are trying to say, but most fighters are fighting other low level cans at the beginning of their careers in the UFC. They don’t come out the gates fighting the best of the best in their divisions. So the take for Alex isn’t really good in my opinion.
Even if you look at the top of his wins it isn’t the craziest thing ever. So I still stand by my opinion. But also fair point you’re making. Most fighters fight lower comp and unknown guys when they first come into the ufc
i do not understand volk critic though he won the first and third fight conviencely and max is top 3 fw oat why we need to remove and critize this about volk in that time they were clear twos what can volk do to improve his resume he moved up arguably beat islam and accept 3 short notice fight in his prime i see featherweight and whole mma goat in that carrer ngl
But you are wrong about Jon losing to Dominic. I agree that he underestimated him and probably didn't train much for that fight but he clearly won the last two rounds and took Dominick's sole. And I also believe he won the third round even though it was close. Jon was a bit cocky and didn't want to use his wrestling up untill the last round in that fight otherwise that fight would've been over probably in the first two rounds.
Agree to disagree (: but yes clear jones underestimated him. Jones 2nd light heavyweight run was rough. Reyes Santos Smith He looked mid in those fights
Khabib did what he should’ve for himself and his family. He would’ve destroyed any other lightweight but he had nothing left to prove and made his money.
Fair critiques. I've always thought Anderson Silva was overrated and it's nice to see a commentator acknowledge that his competition wasn't very good. He had some great wins like Sonnen and Henderson but most of his wins were over journeymen. Who do you think could beat Khabib at 155 if he would have stuck around? I think Khabib is the greatest ever but acknowledge his career left some questions because of his abrupt retirement.
If he stood around until 36-37 maybe Arman. Charles wouldn't have caught him in a submission, and after the Arman fight, I don't think Charles could actually submit Khabib even if he catches him
OG Connor had a bigger chance if he stuck to his original style that is karate type shit with striking that made him flashy but also accurate I just played the fight on my career as Connor but the man-bun era I made him respectful and cool and he and Khabib made up even shook hands before the fight I found that cool
its funny that what people have against jones is things gsp did. gsp ducked silva, jones ducked aspinall. Both waited for the weight class above to have a weak championship fight
how could he duck him if he was never once scheduled to fight him and they were in two different weight classes. and no jones and aspinall doesn't apply because the interim champ is supposed to be scheduled to fight the champ unless you have dana white privilege apparently
Gsp was never competing at middleweight when Anderson was. Jon Jones and Tom Apsinall literally hold the same title in the same division. Jon also ducked Francis.
If you rewatch the Jones vs Reyes fight and look at the damage output and all the kicks he checked, he beat Reyes. Again, when you're arguing his last fights in LHW mean he beat no one, I disagree. They were all number 1 contenders. Again proves no point in fighting Aspinal, if he beat Aspinal and Aspina goes on a losing streak, that fight does nothing for his legacy.
Yeah but the part you’re missing. Jones has spent his entire career fighting guys he had an obvious size advantage and height advantage. Look what he happened when he fought guys in there prime his size. He struggled. Gus 1 fight. Reyes fight Santos fight For once we want this dude to fight someone who’s not 20 years older than him. And had a similar build. Stop bullying 42 year old retired men. And kickboxers you know you can take down and submit.
@@BunnyMMA I mean he dismantled Glover when they fought. DC was whooping everyone else on was bigger than him except for Jones. I think Jones clearly beat Gus, gotta watch that fight without any commentary. When he finished Gus the second time he was the number 1 contender. and yeah Reyes and Santos gave him a run for his money. He vanquished Ciryl ganed though, watch the early predictions when everyone was saying he was going to lose. Khabib is literally bigger than everyone in 155 and literally killed himself to make weight.
@BunnyMMA jones had somewhat of a height advantage just like James Vick in lightweight, omalley at bantamweight and struve at heavyweight. but even with that, he is the only person who won consistently. But gustufsson is 6'5. one inch taller and jones beat him twice.
The height argument is a weak argument, when Jones has faced opponents like DC, who ragged dolled anyone at the time including opponents that were much bigger. Jones Beat Gustufson twice, and the second time was a beat down. Jones didn’t struggle with Thiago. Thiago threw a lot strikes, but Jones dodged or checked most of them. It also doesn’t matter if he struggled with them or not, Jones got the W. If Jones was shorter like DC, people would arguing he had an advantage because he had a lower center of gravity. Jones studies and adapts to every fighter.
When it comes to Jon Jones legacy it's not his lack of opponents so much what you can critique but other things. Jones has failed drug tests for steroids multiple times, they literally changed whole event for Gus 2 to a place where was more lenient athletic commission because they found small traces of turinabol from his system what he previously got suspended on. Then they used argument that it several years ago "pulsing" when it's a fact that turinabol has never been proven to pulse before when it comes to drug testing. Another thing is that Jones uses his longest reach to eye poke his opponents when they try to come to boxing range, it's his primary defense to extend arm and fingers towards opponents face.
My heavyweight goat probably stipe. But heavyweight is lacking so much in the skill. Stipe literally had boxing and solid takedowns in his prime. Nothing else
Except he lost to Matt Hamill. Should’ve lost to Dominick Reyes in a million years. Popped against DC who is smaller dude. Fought bunch of oversized middleweights
DJ’s resume is overrated and his fans (I’ve only started to see them recently for some reason) are annoying as hell. Statpadded his title defenses when Flyweight was at its infancy. Ducked TJ Dillashaw (when Cejudo was the champion he took the challenge and still beat up a roided Dillashaw). Got destroyed by Dominick Cruz when he was a Bantamweight. Skilled fighter but never had a good competition. Modern flyweights can beat DJ
I dont think its fair to criticize DJ’s strength of opponents like everyone does. It’s not his fault flyweight is weak. Could he have moved up? Sure but the guy is 5’3. People called him a duck for avoiding TJ but we saw how that turned out for TJ’s career. He never ducked a flyweight contender and made everyone look like amateurs
He got dismantled by Dominick Cruz at BW. That’s why he never moved up. Plus, he never wanted to face Dillashaw. Just look at Cejudo when he won. Fought a roided Dillashaw and still won
Jon Jones ability to be a stand-up citizen is overrated
Yo hadden thanks so much again man! Appreciate it! And yes Jon jones the model champion. What a role model he is 😂
@@BunnyMMA the problem is if you rewatch fight santos and reyes did less damag than stipe they got outworked
on other hand would agree with khabib trashy record
@@grixiscontrolagreed
He’s the GOAT! His most notable opponent! His wife! He’s got her at 0-973 in their 973 domestic battery beatdown encounters!
"Chael Sonnen wasn't that great either" bro how dare you
chale was trash, only good at trashtalking and quite wrestling, he had nothing else lmao, people like to say hes a legend and undefeated and alalt but he sucks
@mysteriousxeno224 no shit, you must be fun at parties
@@mysteriousxeno224but he literally is the only undefeated, undisputed, and undeniable UFC goat
@@mysteriousxeno224 he never lost a round. The GOAT
I think Aldo still being able to get wins long after his prime is impressive. Hes still proven hes not an easy fight.
Also did you see Jiri Vs Hill will be happening?
Fair take.
Jiri vs hill? I’m worried for jiri. With those.2 ko losses
I don't think he was way away from his prime, but it shows he was really good at the time that only new goats beat him despite the age
@@carlosvg2286aldo will always be a top champ in my opinion, especially when the current bantamweight champion couldn’t take him down ONCE
@@BunnyMMA jiri will smash hill, hill didnt even wake up from the pereira fight yet, while jiri was grinding and training
With Volk you’re overreaching
Maybe a little lol. 🫶
I think dj’s title defenses are arguably a bit underrated. I constantly hear people say “bro, who did he fight, just nobodies”, but you gotta remember, most of these dude’s spent their entire prime under dj’s reign, if dj didn’t exist some of them would probably be considered legendary champions with a few title defenses under their belt each, because DJ was there they all just ended up being remembered as “that guy dj beat” or “that guy dj beat twice”. Dj was just so good it took an olympic gold medalist and future double champ to make it look like he wasn’t fighting cans. And even then it took cejudo two tries to win a controversial split decision over him.
Volk's Max Holloway wins are so good because he fought the Max across various spans of Featherweight contention. Max and Volk were so ahead of everyone that Max was beating contenders, amassing "defences in a way", and looked like a real problem going into their third fight.
This is the best take I’ve seen yet. Volk essentially beat 3 different fighters beating Holloway three times. Going point man
What did it for me about Anderson Silva was how he made look former 205 champ, Forrest Griffin. Ok he wasn't elite but making a former champ look like an amateur upper 1 weight class makes me believe he could have been double champ before Jones erupted
That’s just the lighter man skill mixed with the savant style
@saiyanhashem8380 basically that's just being better despite sized disadvantage
Finally someone says it. Khabib didn’t fight a prime conor. 2 year hiatus where he had only been training to box.
Yes sir. People hating on me but I’m just saying the truth! Thanks for watching champ
I don't deny this but honestly Khabib is Khabib, the result would've been the same, but maybe a round later
@@BunnyMMAI mean Connor was talkin that talk but he probably was thinking he would piece him up as he goes for a takedown but the boxing fucked up his wrestling defense
Khabib would have given Conor the same treatment even during his prime, he is the most dominant fighter in UFC history
He would've smashed the best version of Conor, I personally think conors grappling was the best it's ever been in that fight
With DJ, I think people confuse ‘name value’ for ‘level of competition’. Most of the guys that DJ beat are higher level/more skilled than a lot of the guys that say…Jon Jones, GSP or Khabib beat. But the guys they beat have more name value and people assume name value = better/more skilled
They were part of victim weight no offence lol
His resume is overrated. DJ fans can’t change anything. Flyweight division would beat him
Khabib would have beat Tony maybe in the later years . But Ferguson in his prime would have beaten Khabib.
He ducked Ferguson when he hasn’t ducked any other opponent.
Tony’s elbows would be waiting for Khabib.
It’s a tough argument. I could see it either way. I would have favored khabib by ground and pound
I think Khabib’s biggest threat during his reign was Diego Ferriera. Diego has really been shafted by the UFC’s matchmaking
Damn you think so? This is a unique take I’ve never heard
Bros channel is growing like crazy
Appreciate it champ! We grinding
Jon : never won tight fight without cheating
The top 5 guys Aldo has fought he has lost to
Since the Conor fight in 2015, Aldo is actually 7-8 overall with several stoppage losses
Oh wow. That’s a crazy stat I didn’t know
@ Yup went from 25-1 to 32-9
I don’t disagree with any of your takes, thought I would, but I don’t.
Your overall take about Jon being undefeated is fair, imo. But to say he has clearly been beaten, is objectively false though. R3 vs Reyes comes down to damage vs output. If you value damage then JJ won that round. If you value output Reyes got it. Gus 1 is an amazing fight could’ve went either way. Santos needed double leg surgery after that fight. You can “argue” they beat Jones, nobody has *clearly* beat Jones.
Khabib is a weight bully, man. He’s great don’t get me wrong but man I feel like he never faced any top dog at the right time. Retired early but I respect it regardless.
Anderson Silva resume is an argument I’ve been making myself so I appreciate your take but I’d argue strength of schedule doesn’t matter during an era where he was carrying UFC on his back and he was super exciting.
Valid viewpoint. Thanks for watching man, I appreciate it
Imma make a guess for Mighty Mouse that it’s his striking is overrated only because he is really good at BJJ and wrestling too he just throws hands a lot too
Edit: I was wrong it was who all he fought against with the title on him
Well at least you guessed! Thanks for watching
Islam is khabib's pupil, he is just this good because of the things khabib taught him, he said it himself, saying islam is better beucase he fought one wrestler is just crazy to me. Islam also commented on how he could never win a spar against khabib.
Fair enough champ
He’s Khabib’s father’s pupil more so than Khabib’s pupil. They sparred when Khabib was in his prime and Islam was pre prime. Islam right now is definitely better than Prime Khabib skill for skill. Only thing Khabib takes is aggressive grappling offense and chin, but Islam is better in pretty much every other category
Islam would absolutely school Khabib if they ever fought... Khabib was a one dimensional wrestler, Islam says Khabib would beat him but that's because he's just too humble
@@jocoolshowIslam is more complete, but saying Khabib is slightly better wrestler is a reach, he's miles ahead of Islam in terms of wrestling. Yes, he's one dimensional, but when you're that good at something you can't just say "That's all he has".
Just look at the Gaethje fight, the flawless way how he transitions from a double leg to a triangle in like 15 seconds is insane, it almost looks scripted. Islam could never do that on the ground. I don't know prime for prime who could've beat who, but what Khabib was good at no one else was, like, not even second closest...
@@reclutacontramontina5354 Against predominant strikers. Islam already has a better resume. Even if he loses to Arman he is still better than Khabib in my book
the idea of if u take away his 3 best wins his resume is not that good is just dumb
My point was to say that his resume is carried by those 3 wins.
Jon jones being a bmf for all these people he’s defeated is overrated, he refused a short notice chael, which shows he’s not an anywhere anytime guy. Then he came back once Francis left, he wanted to fight stipe over Sergei & once Tom became interim he still chose stipe
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6:44 could make this a yt short that's facts 4 title defenses isn't easy
You’re right! Just haven’t had the time man! Maybe someone can do it for me 😂
You really have a good critical thinking that's why no one should judge or hate over yo opinions👍👍
lol I can’t tell If this is sarcasm or not
@BunnyMMA it's not, every fighter has a thing to use against but some of them more than others like I'm a Khabib fan tbh but I fight yo opinions like Jon Jones fans I just love ufc and that's it 😁💪
If GSP doble champ is overrated, Jones is too. Won the belt out of the "least well rounded of the top 5 HW" and a geriatric Stipe. Bc if he faced Ngannou or Aspinall he wouldn't make it
lol bro I have a whole video about how jones legacy is overrated. Give it a watch. I 100% agree his heavyweight run is a joke
@BunnyMMA i haven't seen it, I just watched your video and simply don't like double standards
How are you going to say a loss on paper is a loss when it comes to volk to say he’s overrated yet not apply the same logic for jones win against Reyes? Bias logic goes crazy in mma RUclips
PRIME connor with take down defense and movement vs khabin prime
2016 Conor vs 2019-2020 khabib. Would have been amazing. Conor before the boxing match with Floyd
Conor in round 3 against was stuffing most of the takedowns. Conor put up a better performance than Poirier and Gaethje. Shame that people only think of the submission
conor was also cheating a ton if you look back at that fight
GSP is genuinely the Lennox Lewis of MMA
Great channel men, ive been watching everyday!
Thanks man! I appreciate the support!
Great video bro keep it up! also do you personally think jon lost to gust?
Thanks champ! And I think Jon edged it out barely. I had Jon winning. But there is an argument you can make for Gus
You do know Jon beat Gustafson twice. The second time was a beat down.
@@elijahwojik1327 i know im asking if he thinks that gust beat jon since a decent amount of people think he lost but i think he won personally
Aldo is not "4:4" at bantamweight, the Bautista fight was a blatant robbery, he clearly beat Bautista. He also beat Moraes, even though that was a closer fight and a less obvious W than Bautista. He's 6:2 at bw, only lost to the 2 greatest bws of all time Merab and Yan
On paper he’s 4-4 my guy
@BunnyMMA Doesn't matter what he is on paper, he won the fights, judges are not infallible, more like the exact opposite, robberies happen all the time. Jones lost to Reyes, Rinat lost to Leal, Adesanya lost to Romero, Bisping lost to Hamill, GSP lost to Hendricks, Lawler lost to Condit, Albazi lost to KKF and so on. Aldo clearly won the 2nd and 3rd round, he won 2 out of 3 rounds against Bautista, therefore he won the fight. You're not winning fights by getting outstruck and outdamaged and then holding your opponent against the cage without doing anything. That the judges failed to judge correctly once again doesn't change it. The Moraes fight was at least a close fight, it's at least kind of arguable who won the 3rd round. But Aldo edged it. He's 6:2
I think khabib is the fact that he was a weight bully and his cuts were so heavy sometimes the fight cancelled
That’s true. I forget about this
Then alex pereira, Anthony rumble johhnson are the biggest weight bullies in the ufc
@@ManjirAhmed54 Lol Alex became a 2 division champion. Name me one fight where Khabib fought at 170?
@@ManjirAhmed54 Plus, Pereira never missed weight at 185 despite being weight drained.
Missed weight ONCE in his career lol. Literally lying
This is actually a very great video. And you're right Khabib is the most overrated fighter. The best fighters he had fought never threatened his style and he knew that and wanted to fight guys like Justin and Dustin who were demolished by other guys as well.
@@SamaBRJ thank you! I appreciate it
@@SamaBRJ I respectfully disagree. Khabib is actually my greatest ever. He stood with and got the better of McGregor, Gaejthe, Poirier, and Aiaquinta in striking exchanges during their fights with him just to do it. That's how good he actually was. He was standing with Gaejthe and jabbing him up, exchanging leg kicks with him, etc., Stockton slapping McGregor and dropping him, landing crisp boxing on Poirier, on and on.
I wish we could have seen more grapplers challenge him but he would have probably smoked them as well.
@@JohnnyMonday He didn't exactly get the better of Gaethje in the striking exchanges. Also, Khabib's takedown threat makes it easier for him to strike with his opponents. The top fighters that Khabib fought aren't as good as the fighters that GSP and Jon Jones fought. Srsly if you'll look at the combined records of their opponents, Khabib's opponents have a worse combined record compared to the opponents of Jon Jones and GSP. Khabib's a legend but he's hella overrated. He never truly cleaned out his division unlike guys like Jon Jones, DJ, GSP, and even Anderson Silva. Guess what, Khabib never even challenged a champion from another weight class. Also, Khabib isn't exactly the most well-rounded. It's mainly his wrestling that garners him success. GSP and DJ are better examples of what peak MMA looks like cuz they're actually great in both striking and grappling and they know how to mix them up effectively. One does not have to be undefeated to be the GOAT. The GOAT can be someone who overcomes adversities (like defeats) in redeeming fashion as well as carve a decently long run of excellence. Khabib is at best the #4 or #5 greatest fighter of all time.
The one for Khabib was expected cause everyone does talk about who all he has fought and Islam is better still imo only due to striking being better
Fair enough
Don’t act like rda didn’t have good bjj and good submissions
Not to a Charles Oliviera level. But yes Rda was good
To say he got "brutalized" by Yan is just crazy, the first 3 rounds were crazy close when he was 35.. To be fair, I am not gonna take away from Yan, maybe if he was 33 he would've won.. But that's still a great win for Yan. What I am trying to say is go rewatch the fight, just like most Aldo losses, he seemed to have gassed out.
But he got brutalized...yeah the first three are close but by the end he's hunched over in a pool of his own blood taking shot after shot
@ but you see my point, he was 35 putting up a great fight against a possibly bantamweight goat
Not taking away from Yan though, even though Aldo was older, he still was sharp, explosive, and hungry to win.. great win for Yan
Been a fan of ufc for almost 10 years
But yeah i agree lots of overrated fighters in ufc
1. Alex volkanaski
2. Aldo
Shit opinion
So basically everybody is overrated 😂😂😂😂😂
You already know 😂😂
Idk. Then no one has a great resume
Yair and Ortega are very solid defenses in the modern era
Fair enough boss
Ortega is a bum. He was losing so bad that even Max was teaching him to defend. During a fight!!!!
Jose Aldo is not the fw GOAT, that title belongs to Alexander Volkanovski
No actually no
How, also has way more title defenses fought bigger names, what are u on bro
@@christianwalker3670bigger names? I dont think so, aldo has more defenses (arguable because they where wec defenses) but the quality of competition most definitely goes to volk
@Gfckin9 obviously you weren't watching 10 years ago also has fought twice the amount of big names than volk
@@christianwalker3670 you can't be the goat of your division if you've lost to every other champion
I agree with everyone on the list except Volk....nah shitting on a resume of Mendes,Aldo, Ortega, Yahir, Korean Zombie and Halloway(X3) aint it😂...thats a way better resume than big former champs like Silva, DJ ,Izzy, Usman,Aldo etc
W take. I was maybe reaching with the volk one a bit
when it comes to khabib i think his entire goat debate is overrated. he was p4p number one, no doubt about that, but only 3 defences is way too little to be put in those conversations. to me even pereira has a better career then him and it is not even over.
Yep. Issue with khabib is he never fought anyone that could give his style trouble. Like a Tony or Charles in there prime. That’s why I have Islam above him.
@@BunnyMMA agree
volk take is crazy he fought all different styles & max halloway 3 different times & was #1 pfp at the time wether you like it or not
after that second islam fight on *10 days notice* ,he hasn't been the same ofc
True. Valid points. Thanks for watching
I understand what you are trying to say, but most fighters are fighting other low level cans at the beginning of their careers in the UFC. They don’t come out the gates fighting the best of the best in their divisions. So the take for Alex isn’t really good in my opinion.
Even if you look at the top of his wins it isn’t the craziest thing ever. So I still stand by my opinion.
But also fair point you’re making. Most fighters fight lower comp and unknown guys when they first come into the ufc
Aldo been out of his prime since like 2014. The fact he still winning fights is insane.
Great stuff, brother!
Thanks brother
i do not understand volk critic though he won the first and third fight conviencely and max is top 3 fw oat why we need to remove and critize this about volk in that time they were clear twos what can volk do to improve his resume he moved up arguably beat islam and accept 3 short notice fight in his prime i see featherweight and whole mma goat in that carrer ngl
Volk is amazing bro. Just some small criticism. He’s still one of the goats
Silva is just a old Usman
You could argue Usman has a better resume than Anderson. Still was fun to watch in his prime tho 😂😂😂
But you are wrong about Jon losing to Dominic. I agree that he underestimated him and probably didn't train much for that fight but he clearly won the last two rounds and took Dominick's sole. And I also believe he won the third round even though it was close. Jon was a bit cocky and didn't want to use his wrestling up untill the last round in that fight otherwise that fight would've been over probably in the first two rounds.
Agree to disagree (: but yes clear jones underestimated him. Jones 2nd light heavyweight run was rough.
Reyes
Santos
Smith
He looked mid in those fights
Yeah he took the sole from his feet.
How is volk on the thumbnail but not islam
Because I didn’t include Islam in the video. But you could argue he should be in it
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Let's gooo khabib being the most overrated ofc
😂😂😂 bro loves the khabib slander
Khabib did what he should’ve for himself and his family. He would’ve destroyed any other lightweight but he had nothing left to prove and made his money.
Fair critiques. I've always thought Anderson Silva was overrated and it's nice to see a commentator acknowledge that his competition wasn't very good. He had some great wins like Sonnen and Henderson but most of his wins were over journeymen.
Who do you think could beat Khabib at 155 if he would have stuck around? I think Khabib is the greatest ever but acknowledge his career left some questions because of his abrupt retirement.
He could have beaten most of the guys tbh. But we will never know. It’s always hard to say. His hardest matchups would be Charles and arman.
@@wunnybunny9436Those were my two picks to challenge him as well. I think Charles was the only guy who could actually beat him.
I think islam could beat him, hard to say though because khabib never fought people who had great grappling for the most part
If he stood around until 36-37 maybe Arman. Charles wouldn't have caught him in a submission, and after the Arman fight, I don't think Charles could actually submit Khabib even if he catches him
OG Connor had a bigger chance if he stuck to his original style that is karate type shit with striking that made him flashy but also accurate I just played the fight on my career as Connor but the man-bun era I made him respectful and cool and he and Khabib made up even shook hands before the fight I found that cool
its funny that what people have against jones is things gsp did. gsp ducked silva, jones ducked aspinall. Both waited for the weight class above to have a weak championship fight
And gsp was a duck and jones was a duck. Both were. I’m not just applying it to jones
how could he duck him if he was never once scheduled to fight him and they were in two different weight classes. and no jones and aspinall doesn't apply because the interim champ is supposed to be scheduled to fight the champ unless you have dana white privilege apparently
Gsp was never competing at middleweight when Anderson was.
Jon Jones and Tom Apsinall literally hold the same title in the same division.
Jon also ducked Francis.
Jones fangirl inserting GSP. GSP wasn’t stalling the middleweight division like Jones is doing right now at Heavyweight 😂😂😂
for me how can u say dj is top 2 all time when his best win is cejudo which he also lost to
If you rewatch the Jones vs Reyes fight and look at the damage output and all the kicks he checked, he beat Reyes. Again, when you're arguing his last fights in LHW mean he beat no one, I disagree. They were all number 1 contenders. Again proves no point in fighting Aspinal, if he beat Aspinal and Aspina goes on a losing streak, that fight does nothing for his legacy.
Yeah but the part you’re missing. Jones has spent his entire career fighting guys he had an obvious size advantage and height advantage. Look what he happened when he fought guys in there prime his size. He struggled.
Gus 1 fight.
Reyes fight
Santos fight
For once we want this dude to fight someone who’s not 20 years older than him. And had a similar build. Stop bullying 42 year old retired men. And kickboxers you know you can take down and submit.
@@BunnyMMA I mean he dismantled Glover when they fought. DC was whooping everyone else on was bigger than him except for Jones. I think Jones clearly beat Gus, gotta watch that fight without any commentary. When he finished Gus the second time he was the number 1 contender. and yeah Reyes and Santos gave him a run for his money. He vanquished Ciryl ganed though, watch the early predictions when everyone was saying he was going to lose. Khabib is literally bigger than everyone in 155 and literally killed himself to make weight.
@BunnyMMA jones had somewhat of a height advantage just like James Vick in lightweight, omalley at bantamweight and struve at heavyweight. but even with that, he is the only person who won consistently.
But gustufsson is 6'5. one inch taller and jones beat him twice.
The height argument is a weak argument, when Jones has faced opponents like DC, who ragged dolled anyone at the time including opponents that were much bigger. Jones Beat Gustufson twice, and the second time was a beat down. Jones didn’t struggle with Thiago. Thiago threw a lot strikes, but Jones dodged or checked most of them. It also doesn’t matter if he struggled with them or not, Jones got the W. If Jones was shorter like DC, people would arguing he had an advantage because he had a lower center of gravity. Jones studies and adapts to every fighter.
When it comes to Jon Jones legacy it's not his lack of opponents so much what you can critique but other things. Jones has failed drug tests for steroids multiple times, they literally changed whole event for Gus 2 to a place where was more lenient athletic commission because they found small traces of turinabol from his system what he previously got suspended on. Then they used argument that it several years ago "pulsing" when it's a fact that turinabol has never been proven to pulse before when it comes to drug testing. Another thing is that Jones uses his longest reach to eye poke his opponents when they try to come to boxing range, it's his primary defense to extend arm and fingers towards opponents face.
jon jones is so goated, his wins are even losses.
But people can nitpick anything regarding the GOATs
But who is your hw goat?
My heavyweight goat probably stipe. But heavyweight is lacking so much in the skill. Stipe literally had boxing and solid takedowns in his prime. Nothing else
Except he lost to Matt Hamill. Should’ve lost to Dominick Reyes in a million years. Popped against DC who is smaller dude. Fought bunch of oversized middleweights
@@BunnyMMA stipe had solid takedowns because he faced zero wrestlers until he fought dc
DJ’s resume is overrated and his fans (I’ve only started to see them recently for some reason) are annoying as hell. Statpadded his title defenses when Flyweight was at its infancy. Ducked TJ Dillashaw (when Cejudo was the champion he took the challenge and still beat up a roided Dillashaw). Got destroyed by Dominick Cruz when he was a Bantamweight. Skilled fighter but never had a good competition. Modern flyweights can beat DJ
I can see it. One of the most skilled fighters still. But he would struggle against todays comp
I feel like the top 10 except for gsp, jones, islam, volk and maybe usman and poatan is kinda all fraudelent
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Doent matter what ppl think of these goats, because tom aspinall will never be in the converation, all little aspinall fan boys 😂
he might be. outside of gane, this hw division is very weak. stipe's reign was aging fighters on their way out. it was the perfect storm for him
@MuhGlassRibs you are right the division is terribly weak, 10 years ago hw was one of the best stacked division going
Why are you insecure about Aspinall? Did Aspinall steal your cookie.
@@christianwalker3670 Heavyweight was never stacked 😂😂😂
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I dont think its fair to criticize DJ’s strength of opponents like everyone does. It’s not his fault flyweight is weak. Could he have moved up? Sure but the guy is 5’3. People called him a duck for avoiding TJ but we saw how that turned out for TJ’s career. He never ducked a flyweight contender and made everyone look like amateurs
Yeah but at the end of the day competition does matter.
He got dismantled by Dominick Cruz at BW. That’s why he never moved up. Plus, he never wanted to face Dillashaw. Just look at Cejudo when he won. Fought a roided Dillashaw and still won