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How I created TBH and Sab Set Hai - Azfar Ali on everything wrong with TV today -
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Azfar Ali a Karachi-based director and TV artist behind some of the most groundbreaking Pakistani TV productions of recent times, including TBH, Sab Set Hai, Dreamers and Daira. Azfar was also the Vice-President of ARY Muzik.
Azfar Ali comes on The Pakistan Experience for a detailed discussion on everything wrong with our media industry, we discuss producing for TV, working with Angelina Jolie, Radio, PEMRA, being banned, The Mani-Azfar show, Bollywood, Indus Vision, Seinfeld, Karachi, The YouthThe Creative Process, Burnout and why channels are always looking for formulas instead of giving creatives freedom.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
01:11 How people talk in Pakistani dramas, Sab Set Hay and his inspirations, Amir Khan & Seinfeld
10:18 Becoming a filmmaker, writing stories & his process, and understanding what’s important
20:56 Studying design, individuality & formulae, Azfar’s early life, living in Germany and communal showers
32:19 Education in Pakistan, growing audiences, and uniqueness of social media
43:03 Working with creatives, doing unusual work, the finances of making quality content and how women are seen in the field
56:33 Delayed payments, milking shows too long, doing new things, getting banned, forming a political party and “I love Karachi” tees
1:06:44 Burnout, becoming ARY VP, sitcoms, more money in Soaps, poor comedy talent
1:17:23 Big comedy actors & Waqar Zaka’s story
1:27:25 Aag TV, money being circulated around the same TV, his experience with direction and depression
1:39:31 How TBH was made, Tabish, Ali Abdullah and I Don’t Know, why we’re wasting talent like Mustafa Chaudhry
1:50:01 Availability perceptions, Fawad Khan and getting work, and the House of Shehzad
1:53:59 Q&A
Huge fan of Azfar since Aag TV days. That was the first show I had watched as a kid where things were being openly discussed instead of being brushed under the carpet.
He always had an original voice, it's great to listen to him share his experiences and insights.
Also, would like to point out that we have always been appreciative of people from outside Pakistan, especially India. It's our own people who we are extremely critical of.
We in Pakistan have a culture of not respecting our own heroes.
True!
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I didn't add this podcast to my watch later thinking I don't know him, and not interesting.
As soon as I heard him, all the old memories came back to me when I used to hear him and Mani on radio... Man I wish I could go back in time, the free range me, the new phone packages, the new internet, the simple life... How I miss it 😞
Thank you for this, love and best wishes!
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Always such a nostalgia hearing Azfar! Such good memories! Thanks for this! Also, I was thinking why Azfar Mani don't do a podcast together, i think what they did on radio 20 odd years ago was pretty much podcast format! Thanks for voicing this. I hope it materialises soon!
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This guy is a National treasure
I don't do filmmaking anymore, cos of my diabetes. It's hard for me to work with big teams. So I have a photography studio and business now, and in my work, I try to pose my female models as confident women, and not damsels in distress. Even in my sitcom I mentioned earlier, Juggun and other female characters were all strong and empowered women. I am raised by a strong woman, and that's where I will always stand.
Best indian comedy :
1. Flop show, Jaspal Bhatti
2. Office office, Pankaj Kapoor
It's on RUclips, best ever...
TPE is taking podcasts to another level with amazing guests and meaningful conversations. Shehzad you’re doing great work. Keep it up !!
Thank you ❤❤❤
About Paisay, that project I started writing for Azfar, although we didn't even finish that project cos the producer didn't want to continue, but Azfar still paid me 30,000 rupees back in 2006, and that was a lot of money back then. So my experience with Azfar was great. He's a man of principles.
Hes a good man
@@ThePakistanExperience No doubt. We worked on that project for less than a week. In that brief time I learned a lot from him.
Good to know! He really sounds like one!
I love listening to azfar always
Same
It's so great to hear Azfar. We worked on a project very briefly back in 2006 when I was in Karachi. I was hired by him, on Mani;s suggestion. Me and my ex-wife used to sit down in his apartment to brainstorm and write script. He's one of the most creative people I know. BTW, I'm one of those people who did end up wasting a lot of money on film-school, lol. I wish Azfar has given me this valuable advice, back then.
What a small world :D
Never expected a Pakistani Media related person or celebrity to explain chatgpt correctly
I had called twice in Mani azfar late night show on fm had huge respect n great memories
man! what memories yaar. nostalgic. i loved that show. and their FM radio show also azfar mani. char anay ki baat hahah. kabhi kabhi aisa hota hai etc.
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Azfar is a part of our teenage
Just listening to him brings back the good feel days memories of that teenage
Even in my 30s I start feeling like a teenager when I listen to this man
We ain't youth anymore but we want him back in creative areas of the industry
Chahy webseries bna k hi ao but do keep brining something to fulfill this craving 😋
Best wishes ❤️
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Always a treat to hear him...he is full of energy and creativity dripping from him
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I would like to add my two cents to your brief conversation about the state of education in Pakistan as I taught at a government school in Karachi for an year. The quality and standard of teachers is a valid concern but a greater issue is the salaries of our teachers. If a teacher is being paid 20,000 rupees, we can't expect her to produce thinkers and innovators. If we expect high standards from our teachers, we have to compensate them fairly. Another issue is the commercialisation of Education sector. When we have commercialised a basic human right and made quality education inaccessible to a large strata of society, we can't progress and prosper. 70-80% of our students are enrolled in either government schools or substandard private schools. When 80% of these kids are not getting quality education, there's no chance of them having a future.
That argument holds merit if we assume private education schools are doing a great job - they're not either, and they are probably getting better salaries there. Even the top earning school teachers in Karachi focus on students getting As rather than truly educating them.
@@ThePakistanExperience I agree that our private schools are basically factories who produce as many As as possible. I may be wrong but I do think a big reason for that is the commercialisation of education sector.
Mani Azfar midnight Radio shows in early 2000 were fabulous..
This episode deserves more than a million views. Azfar bhai you are a gem. Big fan since radio days.
1.2.3. KARACHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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13:22 from here onwards i am moving onto to watch sab set hai. Thank you for reminding.
I remember, I was in school, back in 2007-2008, and the revolutionary Aag tv started and I use to watch azfar mani show till 2-3 am, failing in my assignments in the school next day. it’s on you azfar bhai, your show ruined my career 😂
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Haha i think our whole generation used to do this lol
@@brothersforever14 totally 😂
- Azfar Ali is a very special person..what a great podcast.
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Loved this podcast. Please also invite comedians Faisal Qureshi, Jawad Bashir, Ahsan Rahim and Adeel Hashmi.
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Love this podcast. Hope to work with Azfar someday.
I wonder has anyone in Pakistan watched Malgudi Days one of the best Doordarshan episode from childhood
Nopes
i came across one of those doordarshan dramas. Really liked them for portraying common man stories with good morals.
Used to watch it on doordarshan. Great show
Kids growing up in the 80’s saw that show and many more like Buniyaad, Neem Ka Pairh, Nukad, Karamchand etc
@@Lolaplayzyt145 yup those were the best days of life. I also miss India Pakistan match especially Sharjah series. We should really resume India/Pakistan Cricket matches
Petition to bring azfar mani show back on social media
Signed
Azfar Ali is the only reason to finally joining ur show loving so far❤❤... Invite Junaid Akram too!!!
Thank you shahzad most awaited episode.
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@Babar Ali kya
I produced and directedthe pilot episode of a sitcom in 2008 with Mikaal Zulfiqaar and Juggun Kazim, and it was inspired by sitcoms like How I met your mother and Friends, but had a totally different theme. I couldn't sell it to any TV channels because they thought it's too expensive for a sitcom, and that I should have cast some newbies instead of all these big stars. It could have become Gohar Rasheed's very first project, had it been aired. Some producers rejected it because they thought the humor is too witty for our audience to understand, lol.
You should do it for RUclips now
I just watched all episodes of sub set hai 2 weeks ago.. at that time cable nh tha ghar pe. But we used to listen their radio show from 12 to 2 am on our one n only Nokia 1112. One hands free on my sister's ear and one in mine. What a beautiful time that was !!!
Good Times!
After watching the Podcast, I started listening to the Playlist of Dreamers and realized that all over those past years It is mind-boggling how our original artistic craft went down the drain.
True :(
Dreamers playlist is my fav till date and no one else can like it, ITS MY FAV ONLY!!!
thanks for bringing him. he is a gem.
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@@ThePakistanExperience I wish he wrote a book on his experiences in media. Probably little early for him. I guess Ghazanfar Ali might write.
Invite mani to your podcast too, please!
Mid way through this one and i really like it
Done
I've messaged Mani bhai
@@ThePakistanExperience did you just read the comment and sent a text just like that?? 🤯
@@hifsaahmed5855 that's how I roll
great show again. Thank you so much... ye ramzan aap ne acha nikala mera.
Thank you ❤❤❤
Bohat time baad zabardast podcast dekhna ko mila 2 hours bohat Kam han 2nd part gupshup zaroor aani chahiya, Maza aagaya.
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I love hearing his interviews❤ genuine man! Plz invite mani and azfar together
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Thankyou in so much intension podcast. u made a relaxing podcast
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Great episode,,, please make more episodes with actors, comedians, directors and related to industry and please avoid these politicians, they are very stressful
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Just thinking how much our content would improve if ppl like Azfar are at the helm. But no, we stick to mediocrity. Oh and the mention of the 80s drama koshish brought back so many memories.
Still a lot of appreciation for Azfar Ali in making of Sab Set Hai
Andaz Apna Apna was Directed by Brilliant underrated Raj Kumar Santhioshi😎 .RKS assisted legendary director Govind Nihalini before venturing to films.
Raj Kumar Santoshi made all types of diverse films be it action Ghayal, ghatak comedy Andaz Apna Apna Ajeeb Prem ki gazab kahani, Romantic film Barsaat, Sociopolitical Halla bol .Damini,Lajja Women oriented film Cop saga Khakee ,Revolutionary film The legend of Bhagat Singh ,Underworld film Family n latest Godse Gandhi ek yudh a master piece which went unnotice released along with crap Pathan, which did well, GG was 1 week wonder .audience taste is weird crazy n stupid ☹️
His Next flick is Sequel to Andaz apna apna it's Aada apni apni ⚡👍
Kudos n hats off to master story teller RKS 😎
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RKS next release BadBoy ⚡
Brilliant. Azfar is responsible for some of the best and most meaningful shows of our times. Shehzad was just unnecessary. Unnecessarily trying to be funny and constantly trying to show himself infront of a giant. Felt like he was pandering for a job.
Thank You Isha Ambani for having a rich Dad who ,on your input, launched Jio so that whole of India could watch Shahzad's podcast ❤ Kisses for your twin babies 😁
Thanks Ambani ❤
@@ThePakistanExperience jieye Ambani
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Listen every podcast azfar 💕
There is always a lot to learn from Azfar Ali. Gem ❤
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Behtareen show!! Have always been a fan of Azfar Ali and his work was an inspiration for me to get into writing. Good to see him speak about the issues that we are also not okay with in the industry. Thank you for this wonderful discussion, Shehzad! Bohot zabardast 👏
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Yes! Jaal, stirred a very strong reaction from the people at that time for being a 100 episode drama. Good old times.
Most awaited❤❤
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watching my childhood hero!
The OG comedy gang!!!
Thank you ❤❤❤ OG!
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I love how Azfar knows so much about the history of media in Pakistan. Old tv shows and content, which sadly I feel a lot of new folks dont know much about including shehzad I feel :) I liked azfar's advice to young folks that read and watch what giants of your country has made or written.
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Also, I think, something that I mentioned before, politicization of youth has played a big role in the demise of Music channels. This generation doesn't even care about music as much as we did back then.
@mali That was the beginning of course. Seeds were sown in that time. But things are now much worst.
Agree
Azfar you briefly mentioned Ibrahim’s name in the conversation. Did you refer to that actor who appeared in that old sitcom called kollege jeans?
تین سال پہلے ہمارے ایک ٹیچر ہمیں کسی کتاب سے نظام شمسی پڑھا رہے تھے تو انہوں پلوٹو کو بھی ایک سیارہ بتایا جب انہیں میں نے بتایا کہ پلوٹو نظام شمسی میں نہیں رہا تو انہوں نے مجھے ڈانٹ دیا کہ تمہیں کتاب لکھنے والے سے زیادہ پتا ہے بیٹھ جاو۔
STORY OF EVERY PAKISTANI🇵🇰🇵🇰
Nationality- Pakistani
Language- Punjabi and Hindi instead of Urdu
Real ancestors- Indus valley civilization
Mentality- Arab or Turks are ancestors
Religion- peaceful(Majhab)
Original- converted from Hinduism/Buddhism
Food- Indian+ Central Asian
Army- Why fight when you can surrender
(93000 surrenders)
National hobby- Begging
National game- Stone pelting
Occupation- Terrorism
Culture- Afgan+Central Asian+Indian
Origin- 1947, before that, were Indian
Identity- confused
Dream- Kashmir
Motto- Beggars can't be choosers
Destination- 72 hoor🫦💃💃
→→THE END
I don't feel any hater in this comment?
To be honest iam an educator and teacher myself too. I have been teaching in Pakistan half of my life and now teaching in the UK. Unfortunately, both places are at extreme. I think there are other countries in the world such as Japan or Finland who really truely understand what is meant by education. Here in the UK or USA too or some other western countries and then in Pakistan it's both on extreme. 😢. I totally agree with Azfar, been living in the UK now it's been ages I have stopped watching Pakistani dramas or shows. It's full of currpt filthy useless content. Nothing socially uplifting for the new generation nor anything out of the box. They are not teaching anything to get the new generation stay in touch with their culture or roots or even religion. 😢😢😢😢😢
Azfar Ali, A True Karachiite
Ulta Sedah and The Azfar Mani show.. 😍
@thepakistanexperince Do a podcast with Abrar if possible..I follow him from long time and he just visited India for a month..would love to listen him!!
Sure
I agree with the first thesis more than the other. The kitty is small indeed. Cos if this decline happened because of Internet, then why are there music channels doing so well in countries, other than Pakistan. MTV is opening new channels in every country, other than Pakistan.
Azfat Bhai the real OG. Most awaited episode. Have been listening to your podcasts for over a year and now trying to listen to previous episodes aswell. Keep it up. ❤
Thank you ❤❤❤ truly an OG
1:20:00 wakar zaka
Sab set hai is my 1st teenage love❤
Appreciation from india
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ہمیں یاد ہے کوشش ڈرامہ،بہت اچھا تھا motivational
Shehzad I will argue that Jaane bhi do yaaro (1983) is the best (at least absurdist comedy movie) of all time.
Sanjay Rajoura said the same thing. I'll watch it.
Where we get cds for sub set hai or yeh cheez?
how was there no mention of the show he did based on Drew Careys Who's Line Is It Anyway?
Lipton light on mention toh kiya
The Legend Of Azfar Ali
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Also please call Bilal lashari some day.
Hamaam mein Mehmud o Ayaz hahaha. That was hilarious.
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Please share that rating thing discussion on facebook
You might not need to think of thumbnail for Azfar :-)
Just his pic for the clicks :-)
Hes done so much. We were spoiled for choice
1:47:25 Mark my words, I don't know is the next big thing. Being an Indian, I crave for these kind of shows. I am madly in love with it eversince I have watched its first web episode.
However, I am glad that Azfar bhai pointed out Ali Abdullah's performance in this show. The presence of Mathira, Mani, Mustafa and Shafaat leaves very litttle room for Ali, leaving his potential underutilized. If he gets a show of his own, he will surely come out with flying colours.
I would rather suggest Azfar bhai to rope in Ali Aftab Saeed. He would be an amazing addition to this show. His music and satire will be an amazing cocktail, given the freedom the artists get in this show.
Thank you ❤❤❤
LIPTON LIGHT ON HAI KYOON FAIL HOWA... WOH BHI TU BATAOO
Agar kisi student ko editing or sound engineer sikhne Hain toh film school se acche options kuch nehi hain....anurag kasyap v shyed sir anurag kashyap Nehi ban pate agar wo ftii se nehi hote😊😊
MIGHTY HEART DID NOT TALK ABOUT HOLLYWOOD PROJECT
57:20 Bilal Lashari😅
HE ALSO MADE TELE FILM "AB SET HAI"
Always pleasant to listen to Azfar. The host is super cringe and extra though.
Very good talk on state of Education here.
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Actually hm originality Kaha sy ly kr ayein gy, Logo ko freedom Dyn, apni marzi sy sochny and bolny Dyn behtreen content bny ga. Thing I like about your Podcast is you let the Guest speak and tell his story in his own way.
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1:39 i think the word your looking for is writer's block
Great podcast! So many things I had forgotten, good to travel down memory lane! 😅
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Inspiration Asfar Ali
Ab toh Mani Ka episode confirm Kar dooo
Messaged Mani bhai
@@ThePakistanExperience thank you boss and a really great episode for emerging filmmakers and content creators. Jo log AJ Kar Raha hai Woh azfar 10 Saal pehlee Karta tha. Thank you for the episode.
@@gumnaamsipahi3961 ❤❤
Welcome to Andaz Apna Fan club
I am a super fan
Bhai abrar wildlens ko bulao na apne podcast mein, he recently completed his trip in india
I've messaged him
Great bhai, keep up the good work, looking forward for ur podcast with him
At 42+1 minute, I feel you are undermining the areas as a whole, Do not do this. It is a good show, keep doing it as you always do par esay krne se logon ko bura lagsakta ha
Great podcast with great knowledgeable guest. Love the balanced view
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Maza agya.
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I remember jaal ...
Next podcast should be with scholar Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza Sahab
Anwar Maqsood ji ko aur leke aao pls bhai
Youthiya hon lkn ap pasand any lgy hen 😜 good work keep it up 👍
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Thank you!
Iam here only for Waqar Zaka
yaar dreamers ka puchna tha part 2 kyun nahi banaya adoora q chor dia play ?????
He has answered that pehley bhi kay aag band hogaya and dreamers for a young urban AAG TV audience so it wouldnt have worked on GEO for their audience
@@ThePakistanExperience yaar! great pod cast loved to c him big fan youth k oper itna kaam kiya hai kash ab b esay shows buny tbh dreamers sub set hai kamal zain hai bhai ka
BHAI ENGR MIRZA K BAYAN PR BHI AIK VIDEO HOJAYE❤
عبداللہ پر یا بچپن کا دسمبر پر ڈرامہ بنائیں آپ
Very good insight of the industry in this episode.
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Hallo guten tag right now watching from germany......friendly...and germany........ ap choti umer men aye thae......so....
Danke
Azfar my fav