Kungfu vs MMA: instant KO. Why does this keep happening in China?
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- Let’s watch the latest fake kungfu Master get instantly knocked out by a Chinese MMA fighter. The trend of beating up fake martial arts masters popularized by notorious Chinese MMA coach Xu Xiaodong is not limited to him. More and more delusional fake kungfu masters keep getting challenged to fights, or doing the challenging themselves- apparently overestimating their abilities by 9000%. Why does this keep happening?
Shanghai based MMA Coach and Kunlun Fight Combat League ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the viewers.
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I have watched Ramsey since 2019 or 2020. Stop watching this video guys! He got more content im his channel! Waay better videos that informative! Don't stop or just repeat watch here.
Thank you!
The Kung Fu Guy is like a video gamer who destroys the AI for years then hops onto a PvP server for the first time.
Machine Learning and Deep Learning : we're here to prove you're wrong, mere human.
@Ultimate Warrior X2 Huehue I've played UFC 3 with Deep Learning AI capabilities and beat them every time. Means I can beat the top ufc heavyweight any day in RL
That’s not a bad analogy. You could compare it to having never played Quake 3, but memorizing the manual and all the online tips word for word and then entering a Quake tournament.
That only applies to non real life fighters
Yeah that can sum up my experience with For Honor. I used to play a lot of AI matches to get my dailies out of the way fast.
Then a couple months of on and off play later i realized i'm rank 18 and still play against lvl 1 bots that are dumb to the point they never EVER parry and the matchmaker can't find me a good match no matter what... because all those lvl 1 botmatches gave me absolutely awful habits... so i get my arse handed in PvP more often than not.
And i can't get higher level bots in botmatches because it's purely reliant on your PvP rating.... so i can't set the bots to lvl 2 or 3 (which is actually hard to beat... till you memorize its patterns at least) outside of training and custom games that don't offer any progression.
Yo this man voice sounds like he knows the secrets of the universe. Lol
I was thinking the same thing man... this guy would kill as an anouncer
His voice is intimidating but wearing that tee shirt and now I'm kinda scared.
the secret is Spiderman
10+ minutes to *ask* a question.
10 seconds to *answer* it. 🤔
9:50 minutes I'll never get back. 🙄
Started reading the comments just for a comment like yours
You've all got it wrong. The actual Tyson quote is:
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the fathe"
Wally 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Actually, it was Tyson quoting Joe Louis. But, I see what you were going for...
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! I'M DYING!!!
@@DarukaEon
i have a broken back
my back is broken
spinal
"Puncthed in the fathe"
this mans voice is so deep he can communicate with whales
Hahahahahaha!!!
I bet that voice gets the girls wet.
Dude that comment had me busting out laughing...well played
I was actually gonna comment that he should be a voice actor or narrator
😂
"A punch to the face might knock you out but it will eventually wake you up to the reality." This will be in a book someday.
Yes that epic
It's been in comedy stand-up before. Bill Burr, I believe.
But of course somebody probably said it before him too.
@@Dalziel45 or maybe Bruce Lee's mantra!😁
not all Kung Fu practitioners have Glass Jaws. I wouldn't be afraid to fight an MMA Leg Humper..
I needa just start waking people up...
Its because as kids they were never forced to paint the fence or wax the car.
And probably never had a one-on-one fight, they only used weapons, and outnumbered other people .kids get suspended from school now for fighting, where is in the past they did not. and they didn't shoot each other like they do today .
Or to sanda floowh
hey! Karate is not kung-fu!
Mr. Miyagi... 🙌🙌🙌
I would rather be waxing a girls ass
Imagine the awkward silence when he walks back into the dojo
@Fight Fly Crow That's a great documentary idea. Like the flat earth one, before and after the reality check.
@Cyrus Wexler he practiced shotokan, taekwondo, and capoera before his first kickboxing fight.
robobop temple* this is Kung fu not karate
JON-SAB MOTO I do taekwondo, I’m brown belt rn.
Kwoon, sir.
""How long will this keep happening."
Beatings will continue until common sense improves.
The kung fu master tricked the the fighter into indulging in victory while he basked in the glory of the subconscious.
Perfect
Baki?
you mean unconsciousness lol
@@FLmanActual ah shit, you're right. Ill leave it as a lesson in humility.
What the stoner fuck?
Nice try Agent 47, what have you done to Ramsey?
@Midnight Madman That makes perfect sense.
Dipayan Degtyarev He’d be perfect especially with all of his videos on the most deadliest moves on the internet!!
agent 47 killed him and use his disguise
Lol
rolf, he really looks like the hitman
"A punch in the face might knock you out, but eventually, it will wake you up" - Ramsey Dewey (Wisened Martial Arts Sage 1268)
VERY wise words:)
I see a lot of parallels here with other aspects of life. In the same way that traditional martial artists who feel confident in their years of traditional training are awakened to reality when they finally get in a real fight, many students who feel like their diplomas and decrees will protect them in the real world are awakened by a labor market that values skills over theory.
So true. When I got my first job years ago, I realized that a lot of people who actually work don't really have college degrees. Most the people, who were older than me in fact, mostly had highschool educations at most. Mainly since they needed the job to survive and provide. A lot of people who I know who have degrees haven't worked in a job that requires lots of long hours of work. so when they work, they feel tired and confused.
The Kung fu guy was taking Bruce Lee's advice and being "like water". So he became a puddle.
John Mason lol
Have you ever seen water lose a fight?
@@MrCmon113 ye, put it in the kettle
The quotes meaning is to adapt to the circumstances and environment, so no the guy did not take his advise
@@MrCmon113 I did see a puddle not winning one.
That man's voice made me a stronger man just by listening to it
that's funny, I think he's faking it
"That punch in the face might knock you out but it'll wake you up" -ramsey dewey
Damn that's some hard truth
You could say hard hitting truth, heh. I'll see myself out
No u are lie
😂🤣😂🤣😎😎😎🤔😂😐🤣🤣🤣😐😐😐truth
not everyone does wake up lol
@@steelbear2063 meanings?
This man not only is a professional fighter, but he has harnessed the power of the thu’um.
Hahahaha!!!
He is the dovakin ???
That's great! Thanks for making me laugh.
I am beyond stoked that I was able to make all of you laugh. No sarcasm at all. Cheers and have a great night! (when you read this)
Everything I learned from 80s karate movies was a lie.
Wouldn’t it be cool if the kunfu guys really were that badass?.. if Ip man really was the best..
Same.
Everything you ever learned about guns from movies was a lie too.
Well.. it's an illusion like magic.
If you think so I hope you learn something from Bruce Lee then
I can't concentrate on what you're saying because your voice is so incredible.
Its some asmr level of voice
I agree. His voice is SOOTHING!
I couldn't watch him with his snarky and supercilious attitude.
@-JRH- straight as hell. Which says a lot about how amazing his voice is.
Same thing with me dude 😂😂
Good to know if we ever lose Morgan Freeman, we have this guy to narrate everything.
Back in highschool two kids hit into a fight. One was a karate black belt that had been in tournaments and the other had been in high school wrestling. When ever the karate kid would get knocked on his back side he would exclaimed that it was cheating and not allowed. The karate kid got hurt pretty bad. Now it all makes Sense.
My sophmore year a junior on the wrestling team started a fight with me and I used Shorin ryu karate to kick his butt pretty good. There are many factors, not just the arts, that determine the outcome of cross-art fights.
In fights between a boxer and a wrestler, it's usually the wrestler who wins. That why Jujitsu and ninjutsu have lots of wrestling and ground work.
@KGB Jujitsu and Judo have lots of wrestling and mat work!
I feel bad for Kung-Fu guy because he just had his entire world view burned to the ground in less than a second.
kungfu guy should have sparred with a fighter before entering any contest. the problem is in a lot of martial arts schools over there the students out of respect dont really fight the teachter but act along and fall when he does his move. after years the teacher thinks he is invinceble
@@sadev101 that is sad, they should work harder to inspire new students to challenge them. if you roll or spar with me on the mat you do it for real out of respect or i will give you a wake up call out of respect. some guys think im a dick for it but then they go to their first competition, then you know, i didnt go easy on you but i had your back where it counted. dont roll through motions, if you do, you help no one, if your not going to train for real dont bother showing up, i need the mat space. every time you move, you do so full throttle full precision, even a beginner i do not believe in spoon feeding teach the move broken into steps then practice drilling with decent if not full resistance depending on skill level. the more you force your partner to overcome you the more they grow. dont sabotage them or yourself by taking it easy. doing so is only the most highest disrespect i can fathom.
Mma guy must have had his tongue on the roof of his mouth to block the no touch chi
i'd feel worse for him if it hadn't been.
@@Rin-qj7zt - that's a good point. I guess it depends on whether you are the kind of person who prefers a convenient lie or a hard truth. I always want the truth, even if it hurts, and it often does.
he used his face to block the punch, genius!
I genuinely did that one time. Took the punch secret service style for a friend who was about to get sucker punched from behind. My eye may have swollen shut but the only bones that broke were in his hand.
Nah man I'm pretty sure its, "you hit my fist with your face"
I just got started with kung fu and we also do sparring with box gloves and shit and yeah, I still had to learn how to not block with my face. :D Getting smarter by the day !
I'm so proud of Johnny sins getting out of the industry and being a mma commentator on youtube
Under-fucking-appreciated comment
And he found God
Ahahahahahah
Fucking hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😅😂🤣😂😅
There is a huge difference between knowing technique and knowing how to deploy known technique in live-action live speed situations. Practice matters. Experience matters. These guys all think that can be like Bruce Lee but they have no idea what he truly did in creating the Jeet Kune Do.
Somewhere there's a jealous Morgan Freeman listening to this.
😂
Yep. Great Pipes!
"In a contest of reality, the reality based martial artist is going to win."
Couldn't have said it any clearer.
Sums it up perfectly for me too. One of the biggest problems I've discovered studying and sampling more "traditional" martial arts is; how the martial art is studied and how that martial art is applied in a more real situation are worlds apart. Not enough effort if any effort is made by instructors of some of these martial arts to prepare students for 1, the reality of a fight and 2, how to apply that martial art in a more real world setting outside of the dojo. PS edit, that is if the instructor has any idea themselves of what a fight can be like.
To me it is a lot like handing someone who has never done a day of carpentry in their life a hammer, nails and some lumber and expecting them to build a quality house. The end product might be something that resembles a house but, will probably end up collapsing on them the first signs of bad weather.
@@WulfricUlfang001 A very true anology there rarther like having swimming lessons of a non-swimmer i think in all honesty.
@@yang.1490 that's literally 100% pseudoscience
YANG. That’s a load of crap.
YANG. If his hand was “gamma waves” he’d die from cancer. This is embarrassingly bad woo.
I knew I made the right decision when I gave up Kung Fu to play the guitar.
Yeah you could have hit that tai-boxer over the head with that guitar. The reality of being bludgeoned by a heavy wooden object...........
Yeah ya have to cut ya finger nails too fight.
@@jacktheflipper3591 You need to keep them trimmed to work those chords though as well! :)
Fooly Cooly!!!
I play guitar and learned muay thai at the same time so I can rock out some Pantera while I'm throwing low kicks to some dude or chick wearing ninja turtle shirts
I remember asking a dude that was all kitted out in kung fu stuff if he wanted to spar for a few rounds. I had been working on the heavy bag and he was training some guy. He said that he was unable to fight me without killing me. 😂
Man, reminds me of the teacher that I used to train under until I woke up. 😂
I learned Taiji Meihua from him. It works, but only after pressure testing it with my Karate friends. Many Kung Fu guys don't spar, and this video eloquently shows the results of that.
@@andrebaxter4023 If you can make stuff like that work, imagine what you could do with something like muay thai, bjj, boxing etc. Though bjj alone is not the best choice for self defense, since you generally dont want to end up on the ground in a street fight, or grappling in general. Cant know if they got some dirty needles on them, a weapon etc
@@rykehuss3435 It's the most effective martial arts for subduing an attacker with no lasting damage but if the attacker pulls something dangerous on you. You can break their arms or legs on the ground. I wouldn't know tho as I practice boxing.
@@zoarmhirr2964 i have a question. Now i know you just said that you don't really know that much about wrestling since you box mainly but i was wondering if mixing boxing with grappling would be a good idea for if i was practicing mma and just for self defense in general
@@sv32099 Wrestle-boxers have been fairly dominant in MMA for the last few years id say.
Martial arts without contact sparing is just learning a complex dance.
That's why they are called martial ARTIST
It all depends on the dojo you go to.
I agree I hate the new wushu. Gymnastics and dance is all it is my shifu said the same thing.
I agree, and the useless martial arts abound, have you heard of taido for example. Did it as a kid, ridiculous.
Katas have their place, but not the expense of actual sparring.
I didn't know Lex Luthor had a RUclips channel.
Turns out he's also a top flight martial arts coach.
I hear he *does* lace his gloves with kryptonite though.
He's like a white Ninja Turtle
This isnt Lex Luthor actually.
@@captainobvious5177 I'm not saying this is Lex Luthor, i'm just saying i haven't seen Superman for a minute...
@@captainobvious5177 prove it.
Sounds like Lex, looks like Lex, fights like Lex...
The ref stands up and says “DRAW!”
I’ve seen crazier things!
technically he did better than most 'masters' - he only got hit once. he's a hero to them.
I imagine this voice narrating wild life documentary film:
*deep down in the savanna, a young cheetah tries her first hunt*
Wow as I was watching this I was thinking the same thing. Like this dude should be a narrator or voice actor. I can imagine him narrating an old Kung fu movie. Or voicing a Kung fu character in an animated movie.
😂 rofl perfect 😎
Nobody looks and sounds like this but Yul Brynner. Wow! If your under 50 you may have to look him up. Actor played Ramseys in Cecil B DeMille's The 10 Commandments and other films.
I am thinking that only me though about this... Hahaha im not alone
He should audition to do the voice of Lex Luthor.
Mike Tyson once said, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
Sideswipe 84 “Punched in the faith” 😂😂
Lemmi Hilldrix lithen here thmart-ath
Shiren the Siren get lost casual, your kind is truly not welcome in this realm. You people that resort to weapons are absolute cowards, refuse to fight with their barehands. You American? Almost willing to bet money that you are.
Malekath XVII ... American??? I’m American dude. WTF does being American got to do with being a coward?
@@malekathxvii9154 also i cant hear you from all the way up here with my 1st degree black belt. 4 years of hard work paid off.
He just went into the stance of the sleeping tiger common misunderstanding.
Haha brilliant comment @ghost
Love this haha!!
The being still for a very long time technique.
I have a traditional martial arts school and this is the hardest and most real truth I have yet heard. Traditional martial artists biggest problem is they very rarely get hit and very seldom actually punches a human body. Brilliant video.
Boxing club will actually have a ring inside.
The clothes restricted his movement. #nogi
Voto Studios when is Mexican Capoeira coming out?
#nakedkungfu
LOL I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
Can't wait for Mexican traditional kung fu
You are doing BJJ now, don't you?
I'm a dude and I think his voice still got me pregnant.
Aha I made the same comment, then scrolled down but yeah I wasn't excpecting it to go so deep :D
That’s incredible. He should look into doing audio books.
Yeah, he would make a lot of money doing voiceovers if he doesn't already.
That's so gay
@@youtoo2233 keep your insecurities to yourself buddy.
That punch was brutal. Even my grandmother was yelling, "PROTECT YOUR CHIN!", and she's been dead since 1992. ;-)
fuckin' hilarious dude.
That is comedy Gold mate bravo 😂😂😂😂
"Kids today don't know how to use the Force..."
The anxiety of getting hurt, the anxiety of hurting someone else on top of all the complexity of fighting, honestly I don't know how pro fighters do it.
That's why people add hate in propaganda in war so that you're kinda blinded so that you wont hestitate to shoot the person in front of you
Some dudes just built different, I do MMA and it’s fun as hell; sparring is the best way to learn and cement the techniques.
It’s also extremely useful if you ever do find yourself in need of self defense, and the confidence of knowing you can handle yourself in any fight goes a long way in life.
@@f4ptr989 I think it's a mind set that you have or you don't, like people who rock climb without gear, not everyone can be okay with that. I just can't fight anyone I'm not mad at, I don't have it in me which sucks because that is about the only way to get practical fighting experience besides getting in real fights all the time.
@@davidcomito505 Really? It’s not really a fight, sparring is just basically hoarsing around with another fighter, the goal isn’t to hurt each other. Leave that to the amateurs and pro’s and even I’m not into that.
You can look at it like a scrimmage match if you ever played sports, MMA is a combat sport so sparring is part of normal training.
Edit: Real fights suck dude, do everything to stay out of them. Just practicing and having a fundamental understanding of boxing and grappling will more than prepare you.
From personal experience having to actually defend yourself from another person is kind of a fcuked up experience. You don’t want to fight out of anger because you’ll probably lose if that’s your motivation, you need to fight with a clear head, but you will get mad after the fact because what kind of douchebag assault someone for no reason.
@@f4ptr989 I've been diagnosed with a general anxiety disorder so I think most of my problems are there. I just don't put enough force or intention when a sparing partner is in front of me. I've seriously been think of trying to deal with some of my anxiety issues by trying martial arts again, I experienced these training hang-ups when I was young and didn't really understatement what was wrong with my brain and gave up fight training but now I see the anxiety is something I can work through. The funny thing is I've been in one real fight and the anxiety was just gone I don't know if it was because I was mad or in danger but having more skill would have been a good thing.
Ramsey can you please say : “To infinity and beyond” ? Lol
Lol!
Nice one 😂
😂😂
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All this shit and yet someone with only 1-2 years of boxing/kickboxing or mma training would beat a life time Kung fu practitioner/“master”. Chinese traditional martial arts is the biggest joke... just a big fake hoax like 90% of everything thing else coming from China. everything thing coming from/out of China is a big fat illusion and lie. The country/state is so keen on deeply imbedding brainwashing and propaganda on its people and anyone else they are capable of doing it to. It’s so crazy now when one thinks about it how they almost had the whole world fooled for a while in the 1960-90s with the “effectiveness” of the Chinese mystical martial arts in their Kungfu movies😂 And still till this day a big majority if not, most of China’s own citizens, even others around the world believe in it. And like i said before not only martial arts this applies to almost anything from products to politics etc. there is a reason you say made in China when you want to imply that something is not of a good quality/bad. Poor Chinese people I feel bad for them honestly having to adhere to all that craziness even in this day and age. But only the good ones are worth pitying. There is some real pieces of shits there to like the ones helping/supporting the oppression, torture and killing of its oyghur Muslim minority people being treated like slaughterhouse pigs even worse. Yet you see no one talk about it and shed light on their situation. Just a hows the disturbing hypocrisy and propaganda of the west, how they till this day bring up what hitler did to the Jews although it happened such a long time ago, yet this is happening now as you read this. And barely a single world of any big news channel or state heads leaders, famous figures etc.. even the east/ Middle East is disgusting for not helping their own. This whole world is a dark place really...
Everyone: Never block with your face!
Kung Fu "Master": Hold my 酒!
*啤酒
Surely if he can break a board with his head, the opponent will break every bone in his hand if he punches him in the face.
This guy had a radio voice. He should do books on tape or something. Seriously.
I heard of this new thing called the "you-tubes" or something. Maybe he should try that.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING!
Thought he sounded abit like 'The Rock'.
SPG yeah, he has spent a long time practising his voice
@@JoeTaber whoa whoa whoa, were would I go to fine these so called you toobs?
For every real Kung fu master there’s literally thousands of fakers out there playing around in their pajamas. That’s why this is happening
@Channel Dark Blue Yes. In fact Ramsey himself has made many videos about real kung-fu masters.
@Channel Dark Blue
Why did you quote something they didn’t even say, and in fact was not even a paraphrase of what they did say? I think you should reread their comment
@Channel Dark Blue
I don’t know either. Apparently Ramsey does tho, which is what the comment you originally replied to was saying. Not that I would know. Maybe it’s worth looking into
Then again, you could just ask them about it. They seem to know something about that
Im sure a ton of guys have a kung fu base. They just modify it for practical usage. Having a black belt in any discipline doesn’t mean you have to fight using the “Classical mess”. Just take what works for you and tyne it to your style. Just like wrestlers don’t purely wrestle. They would get knocked out lunging in. Every fighter is different and have to take any experience and fine tune it.
When I was 12, one of my friends had a brother who was really, really good at Taekwondo - an actual instructor, rather than just some kid taking lessons. He could do so, so many amazing things with his body. Beautiful katas, amazing feats...just astounding.
Another friend had an older brother who boxed three-to-five days a week at the local YMCA. He was decent. As an amateur local boxer, he one a few and lost a few. Never a champion, but still showed good footwork, head movement, ring awareness, and hand speed.
The Taekwondo guy took part in full-contact tournaments, but the rules had him wearing headgear, thick padded belts, gloves, padded slippers, etc. He never felt the need to actually fight, and avoided them out of respect for the damage he could do to his opponent.
The boxer boxed. He was also a "scrapper", meaning he'd constantly get into fights at school, after school, and everywhere else.
Through a series of manipulations of their "followers", both young men decided to finally have a match - Taekwondo vs Boxing. It was talked about for weeks - two "amazing fighters" showing just how dominant a boxer or a taekwondo 3rd-degree black-belt could be. More than personal pride was on the line, and the taekwondo guy had plenty of personal pride to go around. The fight was so well-hyped that they had been warned by the YMCA folks not to have it anywhere near their site. Same with every other business. No one wanted a couple hundred (yes, that many) people getting lathered up in a frenzy over the ultimate bragging rights of a particular fighting discipline.
Understand that this was before modern MMA. No UFC, no Vale Tudo (it was still underground and absolutely not televised), no shoot-fighting, nothing. All we had were bad Kung Fu Theater flicks and cheesy 80's action. Early-mid-80s, when Chuck Norris was finishing his dark phase and entering his American Hero phase.
When it finally happened, out at some abandoned rock quarry in the sticks, some 200 people got to watch three fights: A brawl between two "tough guy" bully-types, which ended with them rolling around and smacking each other's heads into the rocky ground. A laughable warmup "fight" between two local Karate students (before Kenpo became popular, these guys never did anything with full contact without pads) where they mostly bored us all to death. Then the fight. THE fight. The buildup was killing us.
Both dudes met in the middle, separated, and assumed their stance. The Taekwando instructor bounced around a bit, flailed his lead leg around in a little circle, closed, and threw a really sharp axe kick. The boxer neatly stepped to the side and countered with a right cross. Taekwando dude was down instantly, but bounced right back up. Now shaken and wary, he kept his distance. Boxer moved in, circled a bit, led with the jab a couple times, feinted backwards to draw a strike. TKD dude took the bait with a forward thrust kick (a strong thrust, rather than a teep). Boxer pivoted, rocked in, and landed a vicious hook to the temple. TKD was down again, where he stayed.
Years later, I asked my buddy - TKD's little brother - what happened. We were all so enamored with his brother's abilities, it was just a shock to us. He said "Yeah, he never got hit before, and never once had to deal with anyone that could punch from an angle." It turned out that the first hit scared the shit out of him, and after that he didn't have a clue as to what to do. The boxer was just too fast, knew how to move his feet, knew how to move his hips and shoulders, knew how to react to a strike, and kept his footing on the uneven rocky ground. And he'd been punched many times before, so he wasn't afraid of it. The TKD dude simply had none of that. It was all sparring. Even the tournaments were just glorified sparring.
Fact is, there's martial arts and there's combat sports. Martial arts are great - amazing, valuable arts. Good for the mind, body, and even soul. Combat sports take what you learn in martial arts, throws it to the mat, and chokes it out. It's night and day. It's black and white. It's yin and yang.
My first time actually in a fight, all that kata stuff and all the forms just disappeared. I didn't have MMA-style training at the time, or any real combat sports. All my karate went right out the window. I "won", but only by putting the guy on his back and elbowing him in the head until his "friends" pulled me off. That, mixed with what I saw that day as a kid, showed me just how far my karate had gotten me. Which is to say, it kept me disciplined and fit, but it didn't help me one bit in a fight.
Exactly. Well said.
You are right! I saw a video of a BJJ combat fighter vs a kungfu artist and kungfu man didn't know what to do BJJ got him on the ground easy and it was over!! Kungfu man got mad and demand they do it again and a third time he LOST 3 times in about 5 minutes
Joe rogen explain about that. He got his own butt kick a lot when he start doing kickboxing after finishing up TKD. It's all whole different ball game. But hey you do get pretty physically fit for tying out TKD.
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I practice taekwondo a little when I was younger, but I got into a lot of fights growing in school and I never once use martial arts techniques because it was never practical, I fight with intention to hurt my opponent so they can't hurt me. Martial arts is good to practice but getting into a real fight and grappling on the ground and getting punch in the temple and powering through that only comes with experience in actual fights
YES!! Finally someone gets it. It's not that MMA the most amazing thing ever, it's that if all you've ever done is practice your one specialized martial art within your closed box of a gym, dojo, school, etc you literally have no idea what will be thrown at you when facing against a Mixed Martial Artist. All they have ever done is read, react, and counter techniques within their own repertoire of move sets. Therefore when something out of that possibility is thrown at them, there is no reading or reacting, just panic and confusion.
Its called inbreed training.
> Therefore when something out of that possibility is thrown at them...
Something like what? A fucking punch?
I use to practice Taekwondo, in my opinion, martial art can be split into 2 categories. (1) primary fighting style (2) Side arm fighting style.
It is like in the army infantry, they had a (1) primary weapon e.g. AK47 and (2) side arm (e.g. a pistol).
Army Primary weapons such as Ak47 got high fire power, but is heavy and less convince to carry. Their side arm, On the other hand side arm weapon such as pistol, they are lighter and easier to carry, but got lesser firepower.
So, in the army that is for war, soldiers carry weapon such as AK47 as prime and only carry a pistol as side arm support. But, with cops, they carry side arm base weapon as prime and only when there are operation necessary, they bring out the AK47.
The same with martial art
Primary weapon fighting style is
(1) High impact,
(2) highly effective
(3) high fire power
but got high fitness requirement,
Side arm fighting style is
(1) low impact
(2) low effective
(3) low fire
but got low fitness requirement, (it is suitable for e.g. old people and fat people or people that suffer certain injury or medical condition that make it difficult to practice a primary fighting style due to their fitness limitation
But you use a side arm fighting style against a primary weapon fighting style, you are going to ended up getting your ass kick (its like try to bring a sword, lance and bow and arrow into a fire arm fight that use AK47, RPG and F16 fighter jet)
Some fighting style is great side arm ideal for e.g. old ladies, people suffering heart condition, to protect themselves, but can't be used as primary fighting style as it is low effective (e.g. like a sword is low effective compare to a gun) Some fighting style is high effective great for e.g. professional warriors, but it got very high fitness requirement (kinda like a ballistic missile got a lot of fire power and is a deadly weapon, but dame it is expensive. So, fighting style such as kick boxing might be really powerful, but the fitness requirement is also high, in fact some kick boxers, by the time they are 70 years old, no way they are able to still do it.
The problem is, some martial artists that is only suitable as side arm (mostly practice by e.g. old ladies that is too old to be able to practice a primary fighting style), fail to understand that and think they are good enough to be use as a primary fighting style, so they accept a challenge from a fighter of primary fighting style such as kick boxing. But some martial art are suitable as a primary fighting style, but not side arm, due to despite its high effectiveness, it also got high fitness requirement that some people can't do (e.g. old lady that can't walk well and people that got heart condition)
Both, side arm fighting and primary fighting is useful in a fight, but primary fighting style is way more powerful, side arm fighting got much less fitness requirement (just like police equipment such as police batten, swords, pistols are useful weapon and cheaper, but is less effective compare to a modern military grade weapons such as AK47, F16 fighter jet, but those military grade weapons are also more expensive)
Arthur Miranda words from someone who has not gotten punched in the face before lol
The same is ofcourse true if the mma guy meets a good fencer with a foil . If You do not train for it You are unprepared
I will always remember the first and last day I tried to learn a traditional martial art. I don't remember what jitsu or jutsu it was trying to be, but it was one of these show off movie popculture ones. This happened as I was a young teen.
Basically on the first day, the instructor was "showing off", and asked for a volunteer, so I volunteered. It was the typical "now try to punch me", to show a defensive technique. Apparently I made a mistake and actually threw a quick jab at his chest like I would if he was some dude trying to harass my girl. The punch landed on his chest, and after the initial shock he angrily grunted "you weren't supposed to actually hit me".
So yeah that told me all I had to know about how well my time and money would be spent "learning from this master" that couldn't use his own technique to block a punch he knew was coming for his chest, just because it was too fast and not aimed to hit the air in front of his chest.
You should have gone for the head
Hahaha, I had the exact same thing once with some dude leading a ‘Taijutsu’ class, after three years of training Muay Thai. I threw a left jab and he told me I was punching him the wrong way. Luckily I didn’t throw it hard...
In my karate class I always let my students hit me first, before demonstrating a blocking or other counter technique. Usually the students will stop their technique before making contact and that doesnt help to show them, how to apply the counter movements correctly. So the first thing they learn is to hit their training partner by some degree but with enough control so they dont injure them. From there you can start to improve strength and speed of atack and counter technique to work your way to an realistic situation. In very few ocasions new students did land that first punch with impact and when they did good I always encouraged them to exactly do so again. That instantly gained me their trust and respect. Trust, because you always expect your teacher to stay in control of any situation in the classroom, which your teacher obviosly failed. And respect because a real martial artist should always be a fighter and part of his training should be going in toughen up his body to a degree where an untrained student would more likely injure his wrist then even make you blink with a punch to your chest.
You fool. Everyone knows you're supposed to yell out the name of your attack as you perform it. You cheated!
I got thrown out of a Jeff Speakman workshop on Kenpo at USC back in the 90's because I kept countering a lot of what he was teaching. His moves were too flashy. I'd be like why don't you just chop him in the throat? That kind of stuff, he got pissed and told his people to ask me to leave.
Ramsey, I just want you to know that this video changed my life! It came across my feed shortly after it came out, so I went and watched UFC1 right after. Immediately, I left my traditional martial arts behind and as soon as lockdown restrictions lifted I joined Muay Thai and BJJ. Thank you so much for your content!
Smart move! I have taken both JKD and Krav Maga and have realized, after losing to a wrestler in an actual street fight, that type of shit only works against an untrained opponent. I am now working on my 1st belt in Gracie Jiu-jitsu.
Everyone has a plan until they got bite in the ear.😁😂
-Tyson
Super thumbs up
Tyson complained to Mills Lane over and over again that Holyfield was head butting, shoulder butting, holding and hitting, basically everything Holyfield complained about Riddick Bowe doing to him in their trilogy, and Mills Lane didn't as much as warn Holyfield. So Tyson said if this guy's going to keep cheating like this us a street fight, I will too.
Bieddru Huggy Falsaperla Hollyfield was on steroids
Read that in tysons voice 😂
Bruce lee said this type of fighting isnt ideal for combat in real life and back then his own people mocked him but little did they know he was light years ahead of his time.
bruce lee was one of these fake fighters as well. one time he told a boxer he would counter his jab with a leg-kick. completely delusional
@@MultiTwentyseven It's not impossible to counter someone with a leg kick. Someone's legs will most likely be longer than someone's arm (depending on how tall a fighter is).
@@MultiTwentyseven Bruce lee was stupidly fast according to everyone I'd believe he could feasibly kick someone faster than some boxer might jab. I mean I've done a thrust kick faster than a jab before granted this is just some dude vs some dude not fuckin Bruce lee vs a boxer
I think Chuck Norris would have beaten Bruce Lee in a legit fight
@@errolwaguespack7196 bruce lee trained chuck Norris and chuck Norris would disagree
Kung fu guy was in his PJs probably just wanted to take a nap, the mma dude fell right into his trap. Kung fu guy wins
😂👌 It's so obvious can't believe I missed it 😉👍
@@mkprocter882 lol
LOL
Yes, he wore the right outfit.
@@marcfavell 😂😂😂 brilliant
I always wanted to know how they feel after😂😂😂. Cuz they swear they’re arts is “too deadly for martial arts”
Brother you really should look into doing voice over work. You have the perfect voice for narration.
he does have great voice
I have listened to audio books lately. He would definitively be a better voice than some of them.
I fell asleep
Lets face it, IP man movies is why it keeps happening
Sadly, these Kung Fu Fools, same type Bruce Lee faced to stop the none Chinese foreign devil from learning. Are not of the Wing Tsun/ Chun JKD, Wu Shu or simply combined Chinese Martial Arts and other skills that Donnie Yen or Jet Li before Hyper-Thyroidism got him but he fights using Tai Chi Chen which, is the form that Ramsey spoke of on another episode about meeting an older Tai Chi Chen fighting style who gave him some knowledge.
Dion Gibbs BPWP you need to see it in Australia I walked into a wing Chun school after studying karate and taekwon do I’m not joking the instructor asked me if I’d seen IP man to put it bluntly it was a long 1 hour
Ip man movies are based on Chuck Norris
@@dankmemes385 Kund Fu Fools is what they are operating a McDojo, we started in the sme styles friend, you have my full support and sympathies, i was lucky to be directed to a genuine Wing Chun Instructor and only learn up to level 7 of the Wooden Dummy and now I use Metal Dummy based on Karate's Iron Man for hgh level skilled and knowledge and strength instructors. I do not advocate Wing Chun for fighting unless Donnie Yen, you will not win and he is more likely to use Jeet Kune Do like me, since we both practice it and can directly in 2 generations go straight to Sifu Bruce himself.
Sifu Dan Lok is amazing ofor practical Jeet Kune Do not just the Conceptual Parts or Philosophical parts and all are important the key is 'Use what is useful (to you), Disregard what is useless (to you) and add what iss trictly your own, I believe Guro Dan Inosanto R.I._ his definition of JKd being Research and Development, so those 2 arts you have, will be part of the basis of your JKD, for now go on Dan Lok page he teaches it all, but add me on here and I will try find a good Wing Chun Master in Australia and your State and City. Keep up the good work my friend.
Movie is movie, those who believe in it is a total fool
This guy could explain how to tie your shoelaces and it would sound like the fate of humankind hinges upon your ability to tie a double knot...
And it would take an hour
And it would take at least10 minutes so that it would have a better shot at getting increased ad revenue.
The majority (98%) of folks overestimate their ability when it comes to fighting
They don’t spar with people, remember what Bruce Lee said “boards don’t hit back”
Wait im confused...
You mean there strong..
Or wahat?
@@g.o.paciong3015 he's saying practicing on an inanimate dummy is useless, as it can't fight back.
@@MiorAkif auuuuuuh right..
Thanks for the great clarification!!
@@g.o.paciong3015 no problem man
@@MiorAkifReading this thread was like watching the end of "Pan's Labrynth", where it's left up to the watcher to figure out whether she died or really returned to the fairy tale world...it's like seeing that rando one nighter girl, the one you went bareback with & didn't pull out, a year later married with a 3 month old...lol it's ominous...
"That punch might knock ypu out but eventually its gonna wake you up" coldest line ive heard in a while
Its quite easy : They never Fight to learn Fighting, they just "Stage" Fight with submissive Students...then they start to believe, they have Supernatural Powers...
All this shit and yet someone with only 1-2 years of boxing/kickboxing or mma training would beat a life time Kung fu practitioner/“master”. Chinese traditional martial arts is the biggest joke... just a big fake hoax like 90% of everything thing else coming from China. everything thing coming from/out of China is a big fat illusion and lie. The country/state is so keen on deeply imbedding brainwashing and propaganda on its people and anyone else they are capable of doing it to. It’s so crazy now when one thinks about it how they almost had the whole world fooled for a while in the 1960-90s with the “effectiveness” of the Chinese mystical martial arts in their Kungfu movies😂 And still till this day a big majority if not, most of China’s own citizens, even others around the world believe in it. And like i said before not only martial arts this applies to almost anything from products to politics etc. there is a reason you say made in China when you want to imply that something is not of a good quality/bad. Poor Chinese people I feel bad for them honestly having to adhere to all that craziness even in this day and age. But only the good ones are worth pitying. There is some real pieces of shits there to like the ones helping/supporting the oppression, torture and killing of its oyghur Muslim minority people being treated like slaughterhouse pigs even worse. Yet you see no one talk about it and shed light on their situation. Just a hows the disturbing hypocrisy and propaganda of the west, how they till this day bring up what hitler did to the Jews although it happened such a long time ago, yet this is happening now as you read this. And barely a single world of any big news channel or state heads leaders, famous figures etc.. even the east/ Middle East is disgusting for not helping their own. This whole world is a dark place really...
@@zastavabruva bruh u dont even need experience with any martial arts to beat kung fu. can u punch? then u already defeated 99% of kungfu masters
@@zastavabruva Blah blah blah tldnr
Youre wrong though, 1960s? The first writings of kungfu are 350BC..
But basically you have to look at what they are practising, kung-fu isn't just one thing! so a master in wushu or taolu isn't going to beat a shuai xiao master in wrestling or a sanshou master in standup, taolu and wushu are essentially bollocks in a fight because we don't wear armour and fight with swords anymore, maybe in K1 it'll be more effective, who knows.
And you say fighting is unrealistic in Chinese films... yeah, very easily recognised as fake when they flying around. but what about any western film? Newsflash: there are no sounds in space, so no explosions.
You can't burn out and wheelie a car at the same time - fast and furious
I mean, getting shot on film is piss easy.
Drivers of cars barely look at the road
Hackers just press buttons and hacked, CSI enhancing images from grainy to clear by zooming in
Huge grenade explosions
The American military being perfect and the heros, thats a big one, now that is bollocks
@@QWERTY-gp8fd yawn.. go on then, im not a master but I won a national championship in 2011.. you punch, ill use kungfu 🤣🤣
@@zastavabruva wow... just finally finished reading through all the mistakes 🙌
I think you need a chill pill mate, if you look closely at anything you'll find dirt
All I ever needed to know about Fighting, I Learned from Watching The TV Kung Fu Series...😜
Ramsey has clearly been using Saitama's intense training regimen. Master Wong stands no chance.
josh327 I guess Master Wong picked the “Wong” guy. 😎
Lol 100 pushups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats and a 5K run
Talent Dance TV actually it’s about 6.2k or 10KM
Ramsey looks like one punch man indeed
I knew I wasn't the only one who saw the resemblance.
Imagine swinging a racket in your room / dojo for years, with all sorts of elaborate moves to make the swing look cooler, and then suddenly you're on a tennis court, playing against a tennis player who's been doing it for years and you've never even hit a ball with your racket once.
That actually doesn't apply... not the same thing at all. If smash boards and concrete with my feet for years and I do the same to your knee outside of a ring... you get it? It's just that traditional martial artists aren't practical in a MMA setting.
@@blackfootbrave I'm sorry to hear that, but unfortunately most people who have transitioned from traditional martial arts (wingchun in my case) to modern martial arts (muay thai + bjj) with actual full contact sparring, will be in agreement with me. My advice is, take up something where the other side isn't out to score points and test moves, but to potentially cause harm to you while you do the same. If I put my knee across two chairs and let you kick it, sure, it'll hurt, it'll probably break, but that's just not the reality of a fight, as Mike Tyson says "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”, and getting punched in the mouth repeatedly and knowing what that feels like, is also a huge part of the conditioning.
I think being in a fight instead of a tennis match makes it a lot more exciting lol
@@blackfootbrave Boards and concrete dont hit back. They also dont move.
great analogy!!
Bruce Lee himself said that traditional martial arts are useless in a real fight. That is why he went on to adapt several disciplines and make JKD mindset.
The Gracies didn't experience defeat until Sukaraba humbled them all.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face"
-Mike Tyson
Everyone has a juijitsu game until their leg gets pulled off, Beinis Gracie.
He didn't say they're useless in a real fight. He saw they were a lot less effective outside their own comfort zones and decided not to have any limitations
And yet, few mma practitioners pay homage to Bruce Lee as the leader of the movement towards MMA… a guy who was 25 years ahead of any renowned “combat fighter” today. In the 1960s, Bruce was already “awakened” after having those real fights with bigger, heavier, taller Americans (Black and white). If trained in today’s curriculum of sport martial arts, Mr. Lee would still be worshipped as a god of combat. Church.
bruce lee didnt say that. He said (paraphrased) "use what works for you" and " practice one technique not many" (paraphrased)
bruce lee trained in kung fu. He didnt take techniques from other styles unil after he was already in movies. He was already known for being a good fighter before he practiced other styles
That's not true the Gracie's lost all the time to Judoka most famously Masahiko Kimura destroyed Helio though the Gracie's play out off like some kind of moral victory for Helio. The whole reason the Gracie's started focusing on and developing the ground game is because they kept losing to Japanese Judoka under standard Judo rules since they only had a couple of years training with Maeda whereas they could stall out draws on the ground if they took away the time limits and scoring systems.
Even just attending a competition is a whole different experience than regular practice. I did TKD and when I stood against an unknown opponent for the first time, the fight was over before I even realized what happened. The stress is infinitely greater than sparring vs. a buddy.
This guy is hilarious. He could read the phone book and it would sound mystical
Right?!? If I win the lotto I’m gonna pay him to come over and read to my kids.
I like him, reminds me of Charston Hestons narrations. A base voice with drama.
What he said is 100% accurate.
Facts
"New humans keep coming in and forgetting the lessons of the old ones"
You can't forget something that you never learned. It's difficult to take advice because how do you tell good advice from bad? If you can tell the difference then you already knew the answer before they told you. When i was young i took advice but it usually turned out bad because it was usually bad advice.
@@Jordan-Ramses True 👍
This explains why all history repeats itself.
@@Jordan-Ramses Take advice from those that were successful before you.
Their previous success is your first hint as to whom you should be listening to.
@@burnerjack01 agree...but people have a problem with this, because of their ego, you can only see the truth when you are open for it....its the same with what Bruce Lee said about the cup of water and its so true.
I think this guy could TKO somebody with just his voice
He's been mugged 6 times, he must look like a victim.
😆
" Boards Don't Hit Back " - Bruce Lee 'Enter The Dragon' Minute 7:17
"New humans keep coming in and forgetting the lessons of the old ones."
Now that is a strong quote.
@David Sanchez agree
@David Sanchez - You can blame feminism for that one..
@@astraghost I mean you can try all of you are still full of shit but you can try
Xu Xiaodong is the real deal. Probably the only patriot I've seen that actually wants an improved China.
Have you ever thought about doing documentary voice overs? You have a golden voice for sure.
I'm a dude, but his voice is so sexy I think you got me pregnant
Lol he is bald George takes, he has that timbre and warmth , I see what you mean
Your voice is hypnotizing. I wish you could narrate my life.
"new humans keep coming in and forgetting the lessons of the old ones".....love this comment.
I really think that it comes down to some people have to learn the lesson personally.
Well....time has changed...long beforenthe martial arts school train in war eras...now its peace....so peacefull its losingnits grip on reality....honestly....only the chinese military that really aplicate those old teachings into killing tools....well has anyone realize that the real fighters in china are the chinese military experts not civilians....
He raises an important question - why are these dinosaur martial artists coming out of the woodwork and facing such tough, dangerous men with tons of actual fighting experience? They have no realistic prospect of a satisfactory outcome. It makes absolutely no sense. The depth of delusion all around us must be far far greater than I originally thought. Anybody interested in this field would do well to check out a talk by Charlie Munger (Warren Buffett's right hand man) on the 24 causes of human misjudgement, one of which is the tendency for all of us to stray outside our sphere of competence. Please have a listen, it's a barnstorming presentation:
ruclips.net/video/nVdlmXCNjG4/видео.html
@@happyuk06 i think the answer is thendinosaur martial artist should keep up with time, buy smartphone, and watch youtube on MMA...😂
I'm not a martial artist
I am a musician
This phenomenon is also present in music and musicians
You've got players who practice in their basement all their lives
But cannot play in a band or in an ensemble......
Music theory is a must for singers and musicians.
@@dannytennial5311 It helps but isn't essential.
@@44thenazz It's pretty much just like anything. People who just know the theory but never practiced. Theory is good but *must* be reinforced with practice. Theory alone is not good enough even if you know it all. That applies to *everything* in life. Usually experience and no theory whatsoever is better.
@Metal Inc As a guitarist, my humble advice to the guitarists out there would be to always play with metronome on.
So true
If you ever decide to change careers, you're a natural for public speaking. This would include narration, acting, etc. Your voice and often even your expressions, remind me of Gregory Peck.
I mean this in the most complimentary way. Well done.
As for your actual commentary, this applies in any combat discipline. VERY well trained but green soldiers would be no match for combat tested veterans. Just an example.
Reminds me of Yule Brenner.
Agree good narrator voice
Agree. Fabulous voice for film.
Well, your statement only holds true if the veterans are under the same team / command and had the same job as the green soldiers 👽 outside of that it’s no where near that simple as each has a different job / skill set while on the team and each team has different operational specialties and training can be quite different.
So there certainly are green soldiers who could give combat tested veterans a run for their money. There are many variables.
I know what you are trying to say. But the soldier analogy may not have been the best choice 😄✌️
With the amouts of cuts in the videos it would be quite the learnig curve. Narration of a video in your living room is so different from speaking in front of a croud.
Exactly...its what I’ve always said, there’s a Hugh difference between a MMA experienced fighter and someone taught in a dojo...I once spared with a brown belt in judo, I beat him in less than a minute, he never challenged or bothered me again...
A punch in the face will knock you out but wake you to reality...that's not a metaphor that's just real! Ramsey 's fighting iq,It's over 9000!!!
I was gonna quote this too. Too good. My smile just got so wide and kept getting wider throughout the video at the amazing simile usage. (Get it, cause smile and simile are just one letter apart? I know I suck at making jokes, but I'm still trying my best so don't make fun of me!)
Bruce lee predicted this back in the 70s, must train for authentic fighting situations, discard what is useless etc. 😏
You're right Bruce did say that more or less. Now his seeds are bearing fruit. You might call mma the fruit of the dragon.
Bruce was into Wing Chun and expanded on it probably due to his traditional style not working very well in actual fights. Big County and Anderson Silva know Wing Chun. The more you know the better off you are but it has too be mastered in sparring or it is pretty much useless. As you said if it doesn't work then modify or drop it. ruclips.net/video/abhIsZPmH-4/видео.html
I don’t think he said Ect.
Bruce Lee never competed so how would he even know lol
@@THIS---GUY you obviously know nothing about Bruce Lee
"It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war."
Bruh,
That's deep.
It's a truth, my truth. Which is simply, honest, authentic and verifiable... Nothing smart, just fact.
@wingsandstrings I'm chillin', just playin' too dude. I haven't even got a gardener. In fact, I am the gardener... Peace bruh ;0)
AfroSoulStylist there are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky
Dang.
Most of the Kung Fu guys didn't even do anything, they just let themselves getting knocked out due to lack of experience in full contact and pressure. So, we can't really say Kung Fu is ineffective because Kung Fu is not about standing there with a fancy stance and letting the guy knock you out.
This is the most ethnically ambiguous man I've ever seen
I’m pretty sure he’s black
@@eduardodiaz1791 he's definitely not a hundred percent Black
Remember the hitman Agent 47 ? The one said to be a race-less person. This is man is one of those kind.
Half white, half chinese with a little black?
@@TheFailedmessiah 110%?
“Hard work is hard” that really sounds like a line from a master training a student
when you get suckerpunched after 40 years of training and lose instantly. "Where did I go wrong" - face
No the point is that the "kung fu guy" has never actually truly practiced a day in his life.
There really is no defense for a well-executed ambush.
Is it me, or do this guy sound like old school batman (Adam West)😁🤔
I always found it weird in my very first dojo how the instructors were very much against practicing different styles. I was training in Isshinryu karate but I also had a buddy who's older brother would teach us some Tae kwon do. I used some of the Tae kwon do kicks in sparring practice and it was working. After class my main sensei discouraged me from practicing other styles, and pretty much said "In this dojo we train Isshinryu karate" I was just a kid but I could see right then and there the whole cult aspect of the dojo. He was a 5th degree black belt and years later I would hear how he picked a fight with an amateur boxer and lost
Andromeda7 wow I did isshinryu also. I always got my ass kicked in sparing until I took kickboxing then started rocking people and got in trouble for not using correct “technique “
My dad & I used to be regulars at an Isshinryu dojo. They were rigid in that they wanted to stay Isshinryu, but never gave us shit for learning some kickboxing & close quarters techniques outside of the dojo. I personally practice the art form for endurance & peace of mind (for me, it staves off stress & whatnot), but still get down on some kickboxing techniques.
In defense of your old dojo, I think it's disrespectful to your sensei to practice other styles while inside his dojo. Best to bring it up with friends and other like-minded dojo mates outside just to be safe.
I was lucky. I also trained in isshynru karate. My Sensei had no stomach for useless moves. Several things he taught us for the tests, making it clear that it was only for the test.
He actively encouraged us to get training time in wherever we could, and bring it back to the dojo for scrutiny.
He had a red belt in aikido, brown belt in kenpo, brown belt in taekwondo, and a couple other lower belts.
His philosophy was that a man that trained 10 styles for 1 year each. After 10 years could beat a man that trained 10 years in any one style. Assuming similar age, size, and sparring experience..
He had a way of discarding the fluff, and training the basic and effective. This was before mma hit the scene..
Before I trained karate. I started out in taekwondo. There, they stressed the history. We used Korean words, counted in Korean, and everything was geared for point tournaments.
My karate Sensei only cared about stopping the threats. He taught us ways to talk, stand, etc so that we may possibly stop the confrontation before it went physical.
He was a great teacher..
I was lucky.
That is why Bruce Lee started Jeet Kune Do. His philosophy was never mind WHERE a kick or a punch came from, if it works use it. Don't get stuck in a "style", as you have seen how "styles" limit you.
Good lord, with all the various martial arts I've done over my lifetime, if I even tried to stick to one "style" now I wouldn't be able to. LOL.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
"Ah, everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face." - Illaoi
Everyone has a face until they get punched in the plan 👉
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. - Mike Tyson" - Michael Scott
Plan has every body until they got mouth in the punch..
Man i dont know which order to go in
I’ve trained in TKD & Kenpo Karate & have always had full contact in both. Especially Kenpo! How can you learn to fight if you don’t train to fight?
Heh, I had a friend who used to do TKD, and they got pissed at him because he liked fast low kicks instead of flashy over extended roundhouse ones. Mostly because he kept winning in sparring.
I have black belts in Karate and TKD and we always sparred full contact especially at the higher ranks.
I use to go to a kung fu school when I was a teenager...we did “lite sparring” but the problem is 90% of the students were either old n frail or young n unathletic.
Kung fu executed by legitimate fighters is actually quite interesting to watch, it is extremely rare but it's seen sometimes.
Any video links to show us
It's the Dozing Dragon Kung Foo technique. They let themselves KO so the enemy goes away.
Like that guy who was trained badly, on purpose, from "Kung Pow"?
@@dcbanacek2 "I'm bleeding, making me the victor" -Wimp Lo
A sucker punch in these parts is usually when someone doesn’t think a confrontation of any kind is going to take place...and then a guy clocks him out of nowhere ...similar connotation.
Yeah he addressed that definition and then gave the actual definition, which I didn't know but makes perfect sense.
Go watch a Karate class for an hour locally. The go watch an MMA class for an hour. One class has people throwing a punch in the air, the other has wrestling, grappling, sparring, lifting, hitting bags, etc.
You've never heard of Kyokushin have you?
@@CyberdarkHellKaiser I mentioned Karate for a reason.
TRAINED BOXER WILL USUALLY KO MARTIAL ARTIST AND MMA GUY
@@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk trained MMA will beat trained boxer
nonsense boxer are trained to higher level strike far better avoid scrammbling on floor strike = ko
I know this is an old thread, but gotta say it. I've been trying to make this argument about Bruce Lee on several sites, with no luck. People worship the guy because of his movies I guess. Bruce Lee was not a fake, but he certainly had very little combat experience, if at all. MMA fighters would destroy him as well.
You stated it perfectly: "a fighter vs. a non-fighter." End of story. P.S. I'm jealous of your voice.
David exactly style means nothing. Fighter or non fighter. Knowing limitations, know why you’re training etc etc.
Dude did you see that Kung Fu master hit that MMA's fighter's fist with his face so hard he knocked himself out! DAM! That MMA's fighters fist must be hurting!
i really appreciate your emphasis on the distinction of fighter vs. non-fighter. not many people make that point and just say all these other martial arts are "fake" martial arts, which is a little inflammatory and insulting, and misses the real point. so thank you for that important distinction.
it's not inflammatory, it's the truth, the whole point of why MMA fighters fight the way they do is because these styles were *already* tested out in MMA and what works was kept and what doesn't work was discarded. Saying these fighters simply aren't 'experienced' is just making an excuse
@@AeneasGemini totally agree that MMA is the iterative test of what works best in a fight. take what is useful, discard the rest. i think what i'm trying to get across is not that other martial artists aren't "experienced" fighters, but that they aren't fighters at all if they don't train in actual fighting (which is what Ramsey is saying). if you want to practice martial arts, great. if you want to practice fighting, great. comparing the two is a bit apples and oranges and i feel often thrown around in insulting ways. simply because some people get into the ring without practicing actual fighting, should not de-legitimize other peoples' practice of that particular martial art (again... martial art, not fighting). there is much benefit to practicing martial arts besides fighting. and if one chooses to then PRACTICE fighting, having practiced the martial art is a fantastic foundation from which to begin. calling people and what they do "fake" if they aren't making false claims, just seems... not the best way to go about having this discussion at large.
Jason Reed other martial arts work only through pressure testing and training
"Martial Art" suggests performance, presentation, form.
"Martial Science" suggests an objective and a methodology, to improve by adapting success and by discarding non-success.
@@AeneasGemini the problem with old martial arts are, they're not built for combat sport
their techniques assume the usage of weapons and they do not bother to care about restrictions like groin attack, neck blow, back of the head, etc
why bother with strong punches if a throat stab or eye gouge can be more effective?
that's why when put into combat sport, tons of their attacks are now unusable and their low risk low gain approach become a hindrance against fighters used to high risk high gain approach
because in the ring, the worst thing you can get when you commit to an attack is a punch or elbow in return
in real life, in the old days, swords and daggers can instantly end your life if you don't play it safe
This is why I had to step away from training. I started aikido in Japan as kid. While I though I was learning something useful. But after going to cross train with some friends into mma. All those hours of training where really just a Marshall workout. While I have used some of the grips and locks from aikido in real life. It was only to control someone after really fighting them. It was a tough lesson to learn after 18+ years of training. LOL. But at times I do miss the workouts, blending, training of going to aikido but it's not something that will return to again.
Man I don't know you, I don't know what you're doing for a living but what I do know is that you have a golden voice like few people have. You should seriously consider to do something with it : acting, storytelling, voice dubbing etc.
This is a gift.
@Man With No Name what if I told you...I'm no longer black!
@@lilplayboy98 😈 ikr
"Boards don't hit back" Bruce Lee Enter the Dragon
rdp317 Neither did Lee's 'opponents'.
@@Carlton_Wilson they did in the movies lol
Carlton Wilson he’s been in some real fights and there’s rumors that he had countless street fights as a teen
trapez77 No. Bruce Lee never fought competitively. Not ever. His fighting style, Jeet Kun Do, was and is total garbage that only works on movie sets against choreographed opponents.
At best, Bruce Lee was an impressive performer of parlour tricks, but never a fighter.
rdp317 Exactly.
“A punch to the face may knock you out but eventually it will wake you up.”
-Ramsey Dewey
Michael Lee Kadfgyu
Well, I personally have only competed in novice / amateur level in kyokushin karate, kickboxing and kempo. Yet I can tell you that even if you do sparring regularly in a dojo, it's totally different to stepping on the mat. When I got knocked out the second time, I didn't even realise until after it happened and took me a while to reconstruct what happened.
I continue training traditional martial arts, I just have no illusions:).