I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
My dad used to bowl with the curve and I always marveled at it. Could never do it. I always threw straight and hard so that the pins explode, but that kind of power never guarantees that all the pins will come down. I've done 3 strikes in the tenth frame once, but that's the best I've ever been able to do bowling strike.
As a recreational bowler I’ve always wanted an episode on bowling. More specifically the math it takes to curve the ball between the 1 and 3 pin in order to have the highest probability of a strike.
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
I worked at a bowling alley at Raf upper Heyford England, as part of the MWR division, morale welfare and Recreation. 1981 and 82. The bowling alley where I worked was opened 24/7 for the GI serving food, beer and wine Around the Clock. The pool hall was at a different location but had the same parameters. I was 25 years old at the time and I wish we could share stories here. I did from k.p. work to working behind the machines to make sure everything was rolling properly. This topic gave me some flashbacks peace out
At 61, I grew up bowling at $0.25 a game. One time, I bowled 20 games and paid $5 total. Now, it’s more than $5 for ONE game! That might be the reason for the yuppies, er hipster infiltration. I got a 279 one time, and appreciated that Chuck got overruled on his ridicule of that score. Another thing that is frustrating, as a casual bowler is when lanes brought in automatic scoring. While it’s probably decreased score cheating/honest mistakes, bowling alleys have used it punitively, by not giving us any warmups to understand what the lane is doing. This makes the first “game” a throwaway, as it is virtually impossible to score well as you are trying to get in the groove. Add to that, bowling alleys don’t let people know what oil pattern they use, or when it was applied. Because of the price change, I can count the number of times I’ve been bowling in the last 20 years on two hands. Now, it’s the realms of leagues and birthday parties. It’s still a great game and I lament that I had that one non-strike frame all those years ago…
I started bowling in my 30's, and at the end of my 3rd year in the league (covid year) I was up to a 202 average. My form wasn't great because I missed out on decades of practice, but I learned a ton from the owner of the bowling alley about the mechanics of what was actually happening as the ball wemt down the lane, and how to approach different oil patterns. I would have loved to have something like this for additional reference. Great episode!
Chuck's right about how bowling is for hipsters to get drunk. Along with Chuck I was on a bowling league on Saturday mornings and whenever I'd go out with my friends for a fun evening of bowling I'd bowl around 150 and had good form and spin on the ball and I got made fun of for taking bowling too seriously.
The shape of the weight blocks (besides being symmetrical or asymmetrical) as well as where your finger holes are drilled in relation to the weight block, also play a major role in how a ball will react when thrown. Different drilling layouts on the same type of ball will produce different effects. Whether you want your ball to have a sweeping arc all the way down the lane or roll fairly straight and break in the last 3rd, is up to the preference of each bowler. Then there also comes in to play the surface finish of the ball itself. Bowlers will sometimes use abrasive pads to change the surface finish on the ball. A more aggressive finish would be used for heavier amounts of oil, to gain more friction, whereas a higher finish will allow the ball to carry further down the lane before it starts to break, for when there is less oil. There is a great deal of information that a bowler has to take into account when deciding which ball they want to use.
Brooklyn NY loves Gary O. Lord Nice and Dr. Tyson (we also claim all 3) Outstanding educational episode as anticipated. Well done Gentleman Dr. Dave ROCKS #Bowling #Psysics #Engineering. Science is indeed EVERY WERE StarTalk is "The Beez 🐝 Kneez
Being a nerd like I am, I have found that watching pro bowling is a lot more fun than watching pro football or basketball. There is an anticipation seeing that ball go down the lane and wondering if it is going to hit the pocket. Like I said, I'm a nerd. Thank you gentlemen for another informative video and an enjoyable evening.
My father traveled some as a league bowler, but he had a pro bowler teach me the basics when I was 12 or so. His thought was that his son would pay more attention to someone else I bowled in a Saturday youth league and also in a family league with my father. Dad used a fingertip ball and I tried one for a while, but it was a lot of extra pressure on my wrist. One night a week the alley would have Silver Pin bowling, where if the number one pin was the silver one and you made a strike you would win cash money.
Chuck's idea at 49:00 reminds me of a variation of darts that my co-workers and I invented a while ago where you could multiply your score by taking it from further than the standard throwing line.
my best score in my misspent youth at bowling was 280+ and I hated it when the finger holes hit the lane. And beware those house shoes that need some leather on the sole so you don't slide over the foul line. I did do candle pin bowling when I lived in New Hampshire back in the 80's. There were some folks that would hit the reset button while my ball was going down the lane and block my shot. I do like the idea that Chuck proposed about choosing the toughest spare shots to score points.
I'm an engineer and I always avoided sports. When I first saw this "sports editions" of StarTalk I would go like: "eek sports", let's watch something else!". But then i saw one episode and I said to myself: "Veronique, this is very interesting! " Kudos to y'all for bringing this!!!👍🦋😊
I used to work in bowling alley maintenance, and some lanes start getting microgroves wearing into the surface over time, wich can cause oil pooling and throwing off shots as the 'optimal path' wears down
I bowled in a league with a guy who, in a different league on a different night, had 2 perfect games in a row and 11 strikes in the 3rd game and left the 10 pin on the last ball. 899 series ain't bad though. His name is Bill Fong and you can read about it online. The next time I saw him I congratulated him, of course.
Intelligent empirical deliberation seemingly tends to win, yet a lack of "knowing/experience" is seemingly naught, when set within a relative comparison... A thought so small, Floating through it all. In my mind does it stay, Or to the darkness goes its way?.. - from within the abyss An intriguing quote, "You are not just a drop in the ocean, You are also an entire ocean in a drop." -RUMI ...🤔
You would enjoy our Winter Olympics episode with Charles Liu! We have a great discussion on the physics of curling: ruclips.net/video/q_nMVxq40fA/видео.html
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
What a great show. I love how the sports episodes thumbnail make me think " hmmm, might be interesting" then I feel like a boss for the rest of the day for learning something new.
On the idea of changing up bowling to be something new... Consider if you will, put-put golf. Now consider if bowling were given that kind of treatment. You still only get one throw to knock down as many pin as you can, but you don't get to see a simple straight lane. Wavy lanes. Banked curves. Gutters in unexpected places.
This was a great topic and fun to watch. I have one comment that I’ve discussed a lot over time. It’s about the difficulty of throwing a 300. I would agree that it’s harder to throw a perfect game but I will always argue that throwing a 300 is far more difficult than a hole in one even though it may be more frequent. I’m my opinion you have to take nerves into consideration. You are not as nervous standing over your shot on a par 3 the way you are on that last ball of a 300 game. A hole in one just happens and a par three is never the last hole on the course placing more pressure on you.
I have a post above, but to add to your data. I was up to a 206 average bowler in the 60's. In later years I became a mid 70's golfer. I've never had a 300 game, I had a 299 game with a left 10 pin. I have had 1 hole in 1 over a 30 year or so stretch. And I've only broke par on 18 holes 1 time. Many times on 9 holes.
I had a 228 average in my early 20s, worked at a bowling alley for 5 years and had a 300 as well as winning the state bowling singles tournament one year :D I miss bowling, had a labrum repair and my shoulder can't do it anymore, also had to get wrist surgery.
Next interesting question: Do you account for earths rotation depending on the actual alignment of the bowling lane? That would be interesting. If you bowl in the direction of the rotation there would be no offset, as when you bowl perpendicular, you would get some coriolis effect and therefore some slightly different path.
The coriolois effect only comes into play when traveling long distances, much longer than a bowling lane; this is because the coriolis effect is caused by the fact that earth travels at different speeds at different parts (The equator being the fastest) but across the distance of a bowling lane the earth travels at a constant speed; so it is reasonable to look at the lane as an inertial frame of reference.
I also grew up next to a fresh modern type bowling alley for it's time. It also has a pool room that I couldn't get into until I was 18 years old. They also had a bar that I couldn't get in until I was 21 years old. A very large restaurant also that I could get into. With 60's equipment I had barely over a 200 average, 206 the best. Never had a 300 game, but a 299, yow - 10 pin. So I went from bowling to pool and then to golf. Even though I was pretty good at all three, but bowling was my most accomplished. Yes, I can read bowling lane oil.
Just for a FYI, there have been 37 sectioned 900 series. The first sectioned was in 1982. There are many factors in in the ball motion. Topography of the lanes is one, oil pattern, about of oil used, type of oil machine used, different brush patterns used in the oil pattern, bowling ball weight blocks, the bowling ball surface, the drill pattern on the bowling ball, how you release the ball, and even weather. It's a lot more then Just rolling a ball down a lane.
It really tough. First you need the right kind of finger fit on the ball. Finger tip balls (drilled so just the tips of your fingers only fits in the ball) were always most common since I can remember. They feel uncomfortable at first but they help in the release of the ball. The next thing was something I learned in a small booklet by Earl Anthony. He said when you release the ball, your hand should be in a position like you are shaking hands with the pins. I was never a great bowler but it did help a lot when I remembered to do it every time.
I know some physics and I'm still bad at bowling. I'm a pretty big dude though so momentum isn't my problem. If I could get the precision down I'd be pretty good. This makes me want to bowl. I haven't gone in a few years.
My son has cerebral palsy and he likes to bowl so he gets a ramp for the ball I realized when you roll the ball it caused the ramp to bend then lift at the end. So when I put my weight on it it didn’t bounce and cause a gutter ball almost every time. With my help we rolled 5 strikes!! I also put spin on the ball!! People were clapping for him because most people only roll gutter balls and that’s very discouraging!!
I think that much is about grip . Once you master feet grip and knees balance , the force on the ball should be more accurate . Styles can be developed similar to tennis basis in terms of eyes judgement and arm movements . Then surface conditions ( old/new grassy/dry dusty/smooth) and ball characteristics make the calculations similar to pool .
We had 3 bowling alley's in our town growing up. 1 had med old lanes that were real slow. Another bowling alley older had lanes I thought were just right. The much newer bowling alley I grew up close by had slick lanes. (I thought, Until I went to a torney 200 miles away and you could see the oil hitting the ceiling.)
Out east in the Wash., DC area we had both 10 pin and duck pin bowling. In 10 you get 2 attempts per frame while in duck pin it’s 3 per frame. The duck pin ball doesn’t have finger holes. Lanes are still oiled but the delivery is a little different. It’d be interesting to hear his comparison between the two. I’m not familiar with candle stick pins and balls and rules?
I wish I could still physically bowl. I miss it. 😢 Edited to add: Chuck's shirt is my favorite color, midnight blue! 💙💙 🤨 Or it's a shiny black, reflecting a blue light. 🤨 🤔 Either way, I am enjoying looking at it! Edited again: Chuck's "new" bowling game would be a great way to practice picking up those horrible splits, actually! Hey, maybe let's add another level to the game - what's the hardest split to form, to begin with? Is it the easiest to create a 7-10 split, or a 2-7, or whatever, or is it the hardest to leave a single pin, like the 1 or the 9? Rank those by difficulty of creating them with a single roll (is it called roll? It's been so long since I've played, I can't recall!) and give points for creating those splits to begin with! Call it the MABB Variant, please & thank you, when it becomes famous, and give me a 15% cut. See, I'm not greedy. I'll let others have a share, too!
Hey man is there any chance that star talk will ever return. The og podcast I loved to listen to and I grew really interested when the great American eclipse happen on my birthday on August 21. I have gone back and listened to almost all of the star talk episodes and would love to see some sort of continuation
hey man. the one thing this pandemic did for us is demonstrate the effectiveness of remote communicating. meetings, court dates podcasts, working from home. we aint going back.
For me, getting the ball to curve AT ALL is the same as me trying to discover a new mathematical equation. It's simply not happening. The few strikes I have bowled... entirely accidental, yet I bragged and talked crap each time. lol I am a bowler who appears to have JUST been able to remove the lane bumpers 3 days prior. Allow me to stand up the lane near the pins and I will get a strike every time. I have played enough billiards to know where to hit the first pin. It's that long roll to the target which does me in. Yes, I only ever got the prizes located on the bottom row while playing skee-ball. Oddly, hand me a kick ball and I can roll it dead center every time. But that's in grass. Add a hard floor and all bets are off. I might even take out a ceiling light or three.
Yeah I topic I actually have experience with. Bowled alot used to worked at an alley for years... never bowled a 300. But I have bowled 299 twice and 280 like a dozen times, which means for more then a dozen games I only missed 1 pin.
I'd liked to have seen him explain the right handed and left handed shoes..... that probably would have brought some more fun in the conversation. hahaa
Right! And seeing that rev is key, so its rare that you see a professional, or heavy hobbyist even, use a solid-colored ball. There will nearly always be a pattern or something inside the ball to make it easier to see your revs. But birthday bowlers dont really gaf about any of that. But yeah, even the house balls with the swirls in the polymer are for that purpose if you know/care/watch your revs and rotation. But Im a straight bowler LOL.
Dr. Dave talked about the composition of the PINS when he was actually asked how the lanes are made and manage to hold up under the abuse. I would like an answer to that myself.
I don't care about the oil or Euler. I want to know if the formula to use is the KE or the MV. Is it kinetic energy that knocks down the pins, or is it momentum? Two very different formulas that both include M and V. Dr. Dave is saying asymmetry is responsible for the gyroscopic effect. I think that's wrong. A gyroscope is radially symmetric. What the heck is he talking about? I think Chuck has a good idea there. And he thought of it on the fly. My ideas don't come that fast, I don't think. Excellent, Chuck. You da man!
A gyroscope is rotating around it center of mass. If you shift that center, you will get a kind of asymmetrical rotation or precession around the center of mass. So the ball is rotating around it, but the surface does not touch the lane on the same spot at every rotation while the rotation itself and the rotation axis stays in the same plane in space as a gyro does. There is an animation for that: ruclips.net/user/shorts83Hnl1saOtE
Honestly love this episode, as is the case with the previous 13000. But let me say this. Can we do a show on cricket, and how a cricket ball swings and drifts? Also Shane Warne died recently so that’s relevant I guess
It's not a new thing Chuck. Growing up in the 60's my parents loved to bowl. It was common in many bowling alleys to have a couple of binge drinking leagues. My parents stayed far away from what they called the Monday Night Alcoholics league at Woodlake Bowl.
I like Neil when he speaks on bowling.. he is very cool.. BOWLING.. I say.. not globing... ANYWAY- if you like bowling without the drink and the shoes, get an Oculus Quest and get ForeVR Bowling way better than real life
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Did this episode help improve your game?
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
It might have if i could still bowl. I can't physically do it, now.
@@MaryAnnNytowl what happened?
This man can explain anything and make it clear
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
My dad used to bowl with the curve and I always marveled at it. Could never do it. I always threw straight and hard so that the pins explode, but that kind of power never guarantees that all the pins will come down. I've done 3 strikes in the tenth frame once, but that's the best I've ever been able to do bowling strike.
As a recreational bowler I’ve always wanted an episode on bowling. More specifically the math it takes to curve the ball between the 1 and 3 pin in order to have the highest probability of a strike.
Honestly Gary has grown on me. He's definitely one of my favorite people on here.
gary neil chuck perfect trio
Shout out to Gary for being the host most able to stay on topic
@@oldcowbb the bois
You can't have a Sport's Edition without Gary!
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
I worked at a bowling alley at Raf upper Heyford England, as part of the MWR division, morale welfare and Recreation. 1981 and 82. The bowling alley where I worked was opened 24/7 for the GI serving food, beer and wine Around the Clock. The pool hall was at a different location but had the same parameters. I was 25 years old at the time and I wish we could share stories here. I did from k.p. work to working behind the machines to make sure everything was rolling properly. This topic gave me some flashbacks peace out
I can't lie I was right there with you Chuck. I thought it was talking about oil in the lanes 🤣🤣
At 61, I grew up bowling at $0.25 a game. One time, I bowled 20 games and paid $5 total. Now, it’s more than $5 for ONE game! That might be the reason for the yuppies, er hipster infiltration. I got a 279 one time, and appreciated that Chuck got overruled on his ridicule of that score.
Another thing that is frustrating, as a casual bowler is when lanes brought in automatic scoring. While it’s probably decreased score cheating/honest mistakes, bowling alleys have used it punitively, by not giving us any warmups to understand what the lane is doing. This makes the first “game” a throwaway, as it is virtually impossible to score well as you are trying to get in the groove. Add to that, bowling alleys don’t let people know what oil pattern they use, or when it was applied.
Because of the price change, I can count the number of times I’ve been bowling in the last 20 years on two hands. Now, it’s the realms of leagues and birthday parties. It’s still a great game and I lament that I had that one non-strike frame all those years ago…
I started bowling in my 30's, and at the end of my 3rd year in the league (covid year) I was up to a 202 average. My form wasn't great because I missed out on decades of practice, but I learned a ton from the owner of the bowling alley about the mechanics of what was actually happening as the ball wemt down the lane, and how to approach different oil patterns. I would have loved to have something like this for additional reference. Great episode!
Wow I learned SO MUCH about bowling from this. Truly enjoyed my time with this episode
Used to be a league bowler, never managed the perfect game but had a 297, whenever I hear that number I remember the pain of that last miss
Mild PTSD from a number. I feel you x)
You should create a group for victims of #297
Sounds like you need to keep trying
Chuck's right about how bowling is for hipsters to get drunk. Along with Chuck I was on a bowling league on Saturday mornings and whenever I'd go out with my friends for a fun evening of bowling I'd bowl around 150 and had good form and spin on the ball and I got made fun of for taking bowling too seriously.
The shape of the weight blocks (besides being symmetrical or asymmetrical) as well as where your finger holes are drilled in relation to the weight block, also play a major role in how a ball will react when thrown. Different drilling layouts on the same type of ball will produce different effects. Whether you want your ball to have a sweeping arc all the way down the lane or roll fairly straight and break in the last 3rd, is up to the preference of each bowler. Then there also comes in to play the surface finish of the ball itself. Bowlers will sometimes use abrasive pads to change the surface finish on the ball. A more aggressive finish would be used for heavier amounts of oil, to gain more friction, whereas a higher finish will allow the ball to carry further down the lane before it starts to break, for when there is less oil. There is a great deal of information that a bowler has to take into account when deciding which ball they want to use.
Brooklyn NY loves Gary O. Lord Nice and Dr. Tyson (we also claim all 3) Outstanding educational episode as anticipated. Well done Gentleman
Dr. Dave ROCKS #Bowling #Psysics #Engineering. Science is indeed EVERY WERE
StarTalk is "The Beez 🐝 Kneez
Something that has all but disappeared from the LA Basin landscape are bowling alleys. There are a few still around but they are far between.
Chuck’s idea at the end would genuinely make for a really interesting trick shot kinda game
Being a nerd like I am, I have found that watching pro bowling is a lot more fun than watching pro football or basketball. There is an anticipation seeing that ball go down the lane and wondering if it is going to hit the pocket. Like I said, I'm a nerd.
Thank you gentlemen for another informative video and an enjoyable evening.
When I was young, I looked at bowling the same way, still do. Guess I'm a NERD!
My father traveled some as a league bowler, but he had a pro bowler teach me the basics when I was 12 or so. His thought was that his son would pay more attention to someone else I bowled in a Saturday youth league and also in a family league with my father. Dad used a fingertip ball and I tried one for a while, but it was a lot of extra pressure on my wrist. One night a week the alley would have Silver Pin bowling, where if the number one pin was the silver one and you made a strike you would win cash money.
Veritasium has made an excellent video about Bowling. Worth checking out if you have not seen it.
Chuck's idea at 49:00 reminds me of a variation of darts that my co-workers and I invented a while ago where you could multiply your score by taking it from further than the standard throwing line.
A small correction Leonhard Euler was a Swiss born mathematician who spend most of his work life in St. Petersburg and Berlin. He was not British.
my best score in my misspent youth at bowling was 280+ and I hated it when the finger holes hit the lane. And beware those house shoes that need some leather on the sole so you don't slide over the foul line.
I did do candle pin bowling when I lived in New Hampshire back in the 80's.
There were some folks that would hit the reset button while my ball was going down the lane and block my shot.
I do like the idea that Chuck proposed about choosing the toughest spare shots to score points.
I'm an engineer and I always avoided sports. When I first saw this "sports editions" of StarTalk I would go like: "eek sports", let's watch something else!". But then i saw one episode and I said to myself: "Veronique, this is very interesting! " Kudos to y'all for bringing this!!!👍🦋😊
Have you ever been big banged Veronique?
Kudos to you for trying new things!
Veritasium does a great job at breaking these concepts down visually, I highly recommend checking that video out after watching this.
I used to work in bowling alley maintenance, and some lanes start getting microgroves wearing into the surface over time, wich can cause oil pooling and throwing off shots as the 'optimal path' wears down
I bowled in a league with a guy who, in a different league on a different night, had 2 perfect games in a row and 11 strikes in the 3rd game and left the 10 pin on the last ball. 899 series ain't bad though. His name is Bill Fong and you can read about it online. The next time I saw him I congratulated him, of course.
A game so seemingly simple, yet the physics and math, more complex than simply meets the eye...🤔
Intelligent empirical deliberation seemingly tends to win, yet a lack of "knowing/experience" is seemingly naught, when set within a relative comparison...
A thought so small,
Floating through it all.
In my mind does it stay,
Or to the darkness goes its way?..
- from within the abyss
An intriguing quote,
"You are not just a drop in the ocean,
You are also an entire ocean in a drop."
-RUMI
...🤔
Neil, Gary, Could you do a show explaining the physics of curling? That would be really interesting as well! Good job on a great show!
said no one ever
Bro there's an episode on that
You would enjoy our Winter Olympics episode with Charles Liu! We have a great discussion on the physics of curling: ruclips.net/video/q_nMVxq40fA/видео.html
@@StarTalk that was a great episode!!!
I bet the earth is flat. If no one bets so it will be. Plus it's flat, so no one will bet. Vaccine the virus (( grapheno, 6G)), Illuminati exists......
What a great show. I love how the sports episodes thumbnail make me think " hmmm, might be interesting" then I feel like a boss for the rest of the day for learning something new.
On the idea of changing up bowling to be something new...
Consider if you will, put-put golf. Now consider if bowling were given that kind of treatment. You still only get one throw to knock down as many pin as you can, but you don't get to see a simple straight lane. Wavy lanes. Banked curves. Gutters in unexpected places.
This was a great topic and fun to watch. I have one comment that I’ve discussed a lot over time. It’s about the difficulty of throwing a 300. I would agree that it’s harder to throw a perfect game but I will always argue that throwing a 300 is far more difficult than a hole in one even though it may be more frequent. I’m my opinion you have to take nerves into consideration. You are not as nervous standing over your shot on a par 3 the way you are on that last ball of a 300 game. A hole in one just happens and a par three is never the last hole on the course placing more pressure on you.
I have a post above, but to add to your data. I was up to a 206 average bowler in the 60's. In later years I became a mid 70's golfer. I've never had a 300 game, I had a 299 game with a left 10 pin. I have had 1 hole in 1 over a 30 year or so stretch. And I've only broke par on 18 holes 1 time. Many times on 9 holes.
Favorite time of the day(:
3:57 page dedicated to Pool but also to Billiards....... Hmm...
Good torque analogy
I had a 228 average in my early 20s, worked at a bowling alley for 5 years and had a 300 as well as winning the state bowling singles tournament one year :D
I miss bowling, had a labrum repair and my shoulder can't do it anymore, also had to get wrist surgery.
man! this is a fantastic episode! blew my mind, i had a feeling bowling was crazy!!!
A geosynchronous gravity assist maneuver to demonstrate a path of conversation throughout Physics that Sir Newton began to illustrate.
Next interesting question: Do you account for earths rotation depending on the actual alignment of the bowling lane? That would be interesting.
If you bowl in the direction of the rotation there would be no offset, as when you bowl perpendicular, you would get some coriolis effect and therefore some slightly different path.
Deep
The coriolois effect only comes into play when traveling long distances, much longer than a bowling lane; this is because the coriolis effect is caused by the fact that earth travels at different speeds at different parts (The equator being the fastest) but across the distance of a bowling lane the earth travels at a constant speed; so it is reasonable to look at the lane as an inertial frame of reference.
Great episode I enjoyed it immensely
I also grew up next to a fresh modern type bowling alley for it's time. It also has a pool room that I couldn't get into until I was 18 years old. They also had a bar that I couldn't get in until I was 21 years old. A very large restaurant also that I could get into. With 60's equipment I had barely over a 200 average, 206 the best. Never had a 300 game, but a 299, yow - 10 pin.
So I went from bowling to pool and then to golf. Even though I was pretty good at all three, but bowling was my most accomplished. Yes, I can read bowling lane oil.
as another expertice I would guess Curling .. it twould kinda fit^^
thx for the wonderful show to all of you!
Just for a FYI, there have been 37 sectioned 900 series. The first sectioned was in 1982. There are many factors in in the ball motion. Topography of the lanes is one, oil pattern, about of oil used, type of oil machine used, different brush patterns used in the oil pattern, bowling ball weight blocks, the bowling ball surface, the drill pattern on the bowling ball, how you release the ball, and even weather. It's a lot more then Just rolling a ball down a lane.
Great one!!! I still haven't figured out how to make the bowling ball curve while traveling down the lane..😎
It really tough. First you need the right kind of finger fit on the ball. Finger tip balls (drilled so just the tips of your fingers only fits in the ball) were always most common since I can remember. They feel uncomfortable at first but they help in the release of the ball. The next thing was something I learned in a small booklet by Earl Anthony. He said when you release the ball, your hand should be in a position like you are shaking hands with the pins. I was never a great bowler but it did help a lot when I remembered to do it every time.
@@RayRay-zt7bj 😎👍🏿
Does or could UV bowling use oil mixed with colour that glows under UV lights, so u could see the patterns, for u know training and such?
Some pro tournaments use colored oil so the pattern is visible
I know some physics and I'm still bad at bowling. I'm a pretty big dude though so momentum isn't my problem. If I could get the precision down I'd be pretty good. This makes me want to bowl. I haven't gone in a few years.
With the widespread success of TopGolf, I see a lot of potential in Chuck’s Bowling™️
I never realised how amazed I would be by bowling.
My son has cerebral palsy and he likes to bowl so he gets a ramp for the ball I realized when you roll the ball it caused the ramp to bend then lift at the end. So when I put my weight on it it didn’t bounce and cause a gutter ball almost every time. With my help we rolled 5 strikes!! I also put spin on the ball!! People were clapping for him because most people only roll gutter balls and that’s very discouraging!!
I always love every episode of StarTalks. You're very funny guys!
I binge-watched Brain Games and turns out Chuck Nice hosts this season lol
And as always, keep your thinking caps on lol
It sounds like bowling has many different axis like the Earth to think about. But the main thing to think about is keeping your approach consistent...
How about a skateboarding episode with Rodney Mullen? Great physics at play there
Chuck and Neil are killing me 😂
As an avid bowler, I absolutely loved seeing this!
Great stuff!
I think that much is about grip . Once you master feet grip and knees balance , the force on the ball should be more accurate .
Styles can be developed similar to tennis basis in terms of eyes judgement and arm movements .
Then surface conditions ( old/new grassy/dry dusty/smooth) and ball characteristics make the calculations similar to pool .
We had 3 bowling alley's in our town growing up. 1 had med old lanes that were real slow. Another bowling alley older had lanes I thought were just right. The much newer bowling alley I grew up close by had slick lanes. (I thought, Until I went to a torney 200 miles away and you could see the oil hitting the ceiling.)
Out east in the Wash., DC area we had both 10 pin and duck pin bowling. In 10 you get 2 attempts per frame while in duck pin it’s 3 per frame. The duck pin ball doesn’t have finger holes. Lanes are still oiled but the delivery is a little different. It’d be interesting to hear his comparison between the two. I’m not familiar with candle stick pins and balls and rules?
I've seen someone bowl a 879 series before. He missed one strike in the 3rd game... so close.
I wish I could still physically bowl. I miss it. 😢
Edited to add: Chuck's shirt is my favorite color, midnight blue! 💙💙
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Or it's a shiny black, reflecting a blue light. 🤨 🤔
Either way, I am enjoying looking at it!
Edited again: Chuck's "new" bowling game would be a great way to practice picking up those horrible splits, actually!
Hey, maybe let's add another level to the game - what's the hardest split to form, to begin with? Is it the easiest to create a 7-10 split, or a 2-7, or whatever, or is it the hardest to leave a single pin, like the 1 or the 9? Rank those by difficulty of creating them with a single roll (is it called roll? It's been so long since I've played, I can't recall!) and give points for creating those splits to begin with!
Call it the MABB Variant, please & thank you, when it becomes famous, and give me a 15% cut. See, I'm not greedy. I'll let others have a share, too!
I initially read the title as bowling with Dr. Dre. Anyway we can make that happen?
Hey man is there any chance that star talk will ever return. The og podcast I loved to listen to and I grew really interested when the great American eclipse happen on my birthday on August 21. I have gone back and listened to almost all of the star talk episodes and would love to see some sort of continuation
hey man. the one thing this pandemic did for us is demonstrate the effectiveness of remote communicating. meetings, court dates podcasts, working from home. we aint going back.
@@nickross6364 yeah
For me, getting the ball to curve AT ALL is the same as me trying to discover a new mathematical equation. It's simply not happening.
The few strikes I have bowled... entirely accidental, yet I bragged and talked crap each time. lol
I am a bowler who appears to have JUST been able to remove the lane bumpers 3 days prior.
Allow me to stand up the lane near the pins and I will get a strike every time. I have played enough billiards to know where to hit the first pin. It's that long roll to the target which does me in.
Yes, I only ever got the prizes located on the bottom row while playing skee-ball. Oddly, hand me a kick ball and I can roll it dead center every time. But that's in grass. Add a hard floor and all bets are off. I might even take out a ceiling light or three.
vox did a 7 10 split. its completely be made. but by machine. but it depends on so many factors including air flow and oil change on the lane.
Dude chuck is effing with this guy so hard about drilling holes i love it 😂
Yeah I topic I actually have experience with. Bowled alot used to worked at an alley for years... never bowled a 300. But I have bowled 299 twice and 280 like a dozen times, which means for more then a dozen games I only missed 1 pin.
I'd liked to have seen him explain the right handed and left handed shoes..... that probably would have brought some more fun in the conversation. hahaa
OH, Chuck with the Mary reference!!! Great one!!! LOLOL
They do have rules on the number of balls. usually only 6
Right! And seeing that rev is key, so its rare that you see a professional, or heavy hobbyist even, use a solid-colored ball. There will nearly always be a pattern or something inside the ball to make it easier to see your revs. But birthday bowlers dont really gaf about any of that. But yeah, even the house balls with the swirls in the polymer are for that purpose if you know/care/watch your revs and rotation. But Im a straight bowler LOL.
Ohhh I’d love to see a golf ⛳️ version!!!
@ Chuck Nice about the "oiler " subject I thought the same thing before you said that!! I was dying 😭 💀💀💀
I’ve probably never bowled over 200 but I love it
The dude abides
That last suggestion for a new version sounds like a marriage between darts strategy and bowling. Interesting.
From the five step approach
To hitting the pocket with 16 lbs
And a lefty
Keep them coming whahooooooo!!!!
Oh boy❤️🌹
Euler wasn't British, he was Swiss.
Hence the "oil-er" pronunciation, as that's Swiss German there.
Got my bed time content.
8:45 had me cracking up 😂😂
Dr. Dave talked about the composition of the PINS when he was actually asked how the lanes are made and manage to hold up under the abuse. I would like an answer to that myself.
Just on the topic of bowling this was deep!!
I don't care about the oil or Euler. I want to know if the formula to use is the KE or the MV. Is it kinetic energy that knocks down the pins, or is it momentum? Two very different formulas that both include M and V.
Dr. Dave is saying asymmetry is responsible for the gyroscopic effect. I think that's wrong. A gyroscope is radially symmetric. What the heck is he talking about?
I think Chuck has a good idea there. And he thought of it on the fly. My ideas don't come that fast, I don't think. Excellent, Chuck. You da man!
A gyroscope is rotating around it center of mass. If you shift that center, you will get a kind of asymmetrical rotation or precession around the center of mass. So the ball is rotating around it, but the surface does not touch the lane on the same spot at every rotation while the rotation itself and the rotation axis stays in the same plane in space as a gyro does.
There is an animation for that:
ruclips.net/user/shorts83Hnl1saOtE
Chuck just evolved bowling into something like darts with 301 vs cricket and other game types
I always picture the bowling alley from The Big Lebowski for bowling
Honestly love this episode, as is the case with the previous 13000. But let me say this. Can we do a show on cricket, and how a cricket ball swings and drifts? Also Shane Warne died recently so that’s relevant I guess
Oh dang, I didn't know Dr. Dave was a friend of the show. I watch his billiards content.
Chuck! Missed him last episode
Bet you could make a camera app that would visually show the oil.
Chuck just invented “trick shot” bowling! 🎉
Holeeee crap doctor Dave you are balls deep in balls bud. I can't wait to play pool with my friends again!!!
Explaining bowling to non bowlers is challenging at times! 😆 🤣
It's not a new thing Chuck. Growing up in the 60's my parents loved to bowl. It was common in many bowling alleys to have a couple of binge drinking leagues. My parents stayed far away from what they called the Monday Night Alcoholics league at Woodlake Bowl.
@5:30 Leonhard Euler was Swiss
Whoop whoop love ya Gary!
Many of the same dynamics in play in curling.
Can you explain this astronomical bubble talk?
Why I haven't found that Channel earlier?
He is in a fancy place or a very fancy styled nice visual. The gold and white leather couch
I like Chuck’s idea
I like Neil when he speaks on bowling.. he is very cool.. BOWLING.. I say.. not globing... ANYWAY- if you like bowling without the drink and the shoes, get an Oculus Quest and get ForeVR Bowling way better than real life