yea I was lost as well , hey I just bought a dewalt drill and my Milwaukee battery will not fit , damn you Milwaukee and other brands making the proper products for their products
One track for all really makes sense though: for example both makita and festool have bigger circular saws that utilize the track. You can also get Adapters for running makita or festool Routers along the track. Why would I want to buy several different tracks for my tools when I can use one for all of them?
Why not? The makita tracks are the most common and cost effective tracks out there and compatible with all other saws I’ve already got quite a few makita tracks I use with my dewalt saw and festool and will probably continue to use them if I get the Milwaukee
@@mitchellharland2014having all the festool tracksaw and the Makita cordless track, the Makita cuts very smooth on festool tracks. I will not buy Milwaukee or dewalt, they suck
One of those 'anybodies' speaking... Good deal on the Packout case + rapid charger and new 6.0 M18 HO did it for me. I have some outdoor M18 stuff with an aging 9AH HD battery (coming up on 6 years old but still doing well). As someone who currently has both track saws, it's hard to peg one or the other as truly 'better'. The Milwaukee is a well-refined late entry, but the Makita 36V isn't bad either - it's a smooth and powerful saw. Better ergonomics on the M18 but the plunge spring is a bit stiffer. M18's nice for only needing one battery. With the M18, I can make laser-smooth cuts with a single compact 3.0 HO battery in hard old white oak.
If you're looking for a track saw at all, or if you're already in the M18 lineup or really want to be, it's among the best available. Keep your eye open for deals because kits with charger + battery and cases can be had for
That doesn’t make it a proprietary track. All tracks have small discrepancies or differences even the POWERTEC track that’s made for the Makita and the Festool is different from the Makita at that same very spot. It should also be said that not all track saws all offer that feature you don’t need it to cut a bevel it’s a added convenience.
The anti tip feature works on the milwaukee saw/makita track combo I just got. Just checked it a couple of times. Maybe as it wears it won't. Also there is enough room under the saw if a person was to extend the tab in anyway if they had too. The guides under the saw from what I can tell are not adjustable besides the typical cam tension.
After seeing just how much Milwaukee wanted for everything. The proprietary blade. These slight track differences that won’t allow you to easily bounce between the fitting brands. I bought a bran new festool for 50$ more
Was it a cordless Festool? Because I've been looking, and the cordless Festool is SIGNIFICANTLY more money - you can buy the M18 track saw with a 55" section of Track for less than the Festool with no track at all.
@@machinist7230 Yes I bought the cordless 55, the newest version too. I’m in Canada so it may be a little different for pricing considering Milwaukee is a US brand. The milwaukee tracksaw kit is 900CDN without track plus another $180 for the 55” track. $1080 total vs festool costing 1129 for the KEBI-F-Plus-FS. So everything included ready to go at only 50$ more. I was really hoping Milwaukee would be competitive with the accessories because I did want an intro tool into Milwaukee vs festool. But I’ve been borrowing a lot of festool stuff from a friend and can not flaw the quality and function
Love your video reviews, Witt. After watching several, just liked and subscribed. Looking fwd to more. You may want to point out something else on the Milwaukee guide rail, as well. If you are a TSO accessory fan, which I am, the ONLY accessory TSO currently has that's compatible with Milwaukee's guide rail is the GRS 16 PE Parallel Edge Guide rail square, allowing use of their parallel rails on Milwaukee's guide rail. Neither the original GRS 16 square guide or the current PG adapters work on the Milwaukee rail. After a few conversations with TSO, they informed me they hope to be offering Milwaukee compatible adapters by the end of June or July 2023. Just a heads up, in case any of your viewers were hoping TSO's fine line of accessories would work on the Milwaukee, which excepting the PE, will Not. Great video.
Thanks for putting the video together. I just bought the milwaukee track saw locally and needed tracks. My local stores don’t have milwaukee tracks. I looked online and found numerous vids including this one. Another video I seen showed the makita track working and the person said it worked good. There are adjustment knobs on the saw to adjust how it slides along the rail. Could the difference be how those are adjusted…If too loose the saw will come out like this video showed? Just a thought cause from what I can find for choices in Canada the makita rails are significantly less cost than the milwaukee. Thanks again for the video. Update as of Feb.20/24. I can confirm makita guides do not work with the anti-tip feature. WEN guide rails do fit the anti tip feature of the milwaukee track saw! $98 CAD for two 50” guides includes joiners. One 55” milwaukee is $168 CAD and they aren’t in stock around. 55” is a better length for cross cutting 4x8 sheets but 50” works.
Keep in mind, if you want to use the TSO parallel guides with the quick release adapters you must have festool guide rails. Bite the bullet and go with festool tracks
@@farmermike9262 the problem is that the anti tip nub on the Milwaukee saw is thicker than the one on the Makita. It actually causes the Milwaukee saw to get caught when sliding on the Makita track because of the friction. I spent two hours in store trying both saws and ended up going all Makita even though I wanted the Milwaukee saw more for it's features. Also a bonus that Makita tracks are half the price of the Milwaukee tracks here in Canada. 84.99 for the Makita 55", 168 for the Milwaukee.
My question is what justifies the almost festool price? I’d love to see you do a bit of a review on it. I was going to buy one then I got sticker shock and decided if I’m dropping that much I’ll buy the festool.
Just saw a video discussing this. Track battery, storage box and saw, Festool is over 900 bucks, Milwaukee is 760, and Makita is 740ish. Personally, I'd buy the Milwaukee if I absolutely had to have a cordless tracksaw. Personally, I'd buy a Makita 120v, at under 400 bucks, and live with the cord.
So it does work however you need to really twist the locking mechanism. It gets a tiny bit hung up so you think that the mechanism is engaged fully however it is not. You will hear a click when you have twisted the full 90 and it engages and trust me when it does that saw is not going anywhere. I have a Milwaukee tracksaw and it works perfectly on both of my Makita guide rails.
FUN FACT: I just recently bought a Makita track and noticed the logo is a sticker which is odd because all of my other Makita products have embossed or debossed logos. First thing came to mind was these are not made by Makita but rather a third party which means I overpaid =( Makita, Milwaukee, Powertec...etc all made from the same place.
The anti tipping feature is for DIY'ers/weekend warriors. Even if your track is clamped at both ends if in the middle of a 45° cut you let it tip a bit your cut is going to be crap. In my opinion the anti tipping thingy is a useless gimmick.
I’ve used a tracksaw every day for seven years, and never needed or wanted a tip lock. It only prevents tipping if your track is clamped to the work piece, because at 45° your saw will pull an 8 foot track over with it if you let go.
Dumb question, I already ordered the M18 track saw as my first track saw and was shopping around for clamps when I found out it doesn't come with any. You can use a track saw without clamps/what is the point? If you don't clamp down the track won't it just move around defeating the whole purpose?
@@xsterawesome the bottom of the tracks have neoprene grip tape, as long as you clean the dust off occasionally with an air compressor, the track will stay in place unless you nudge it while cutting
@@xsterawesomenot really, atleast the festool track sticks really, really well as long as the workpiece isn't too dusty. Don't think I've almost never used clamps with a tracksaw. Using clamps almost defeats the point of the track system in my mind, I'd only use clamps for something special. They stay in place, and can be quickly moved to the next cut without faffing around with clamps or even finding somewhere to faff them to :p
@@xsterawesome No they don’t move. All tracks have a type of foam or felt strips on the bottom that hold them in place nicely. Just keep both surfaces relatively clean and it’ll stay in place as long as you’re mindful of bumping or twisting the saw as you cut. I typically clamp the track to the piece with my free hand behind the saw. Even if you’re bevel cutting you’re going to have to use one hand to keep pressure straight down on the base, so there’s still no need for clamps unless it’s a very important cut you’re worried about, or if you’re cutting something vertical in place. You can clamp the track to anything and just cut it right there.
I have the makita tracks with milwaukee saw and it works just fine. It looks like you didnt have the track adjustment knobs set properly. Also, people saying the blade is proprietary? Its literally not, it has a 20mm arbor, the same as all the other ones. And if you were wondering why i mixed brands, i had a corded makita for a long time and about $600 already invested in makita tracks, but I am also heavily invested in the m18 platform.
I have a Makita track saw, a festool (108")track along with the makita(55" and 28") track, Festool does not have the grove to use the anti tip feature and I can still do bevels, I just have to remember that it can tip off, not a problem though, its easy enough to hold it in place, I now have the Milwaukee saw because I'm deep into Milwaukee batteries and dont want to invest in Makita batteries but I'm sure I can do a bevel with it.
If you want to use parallel guides with your track saw you want TSO parallel guides with their quick release adapters that only work with Festool tracks.
Is it a depth of flange issue or is it a height of flange issue? It looks like the makita track flange is thicker. I think the anti tip on makita sits lower.
@@wittworks Well if you look at your own video... the saw is clearly sitting dead middle in the track. I would assume if it was adjusted it would be offset?
The anti tip feature is a gimmick. It's for homeowners/DIY'ers. For doing bevel cuts 2 hands are required, one on the trigger/handle and one on the base plate of the saw to prevent any tipping whatsoever. Total gimmick.
How about the Makita saw on a Milwaukee track? I have the Makita but am considering buying the long red track from Home Depot to save the huge shipping fee
That's crazy that they wouldn't have engineered it with that 1/8 less distance although I'm sure they did it so that the Makita saw won't even fit on the Milwaukee rail
My milwaukee track saw works flawlessly with my makita tracks. No issues at all. The anti-tip feature on the saw does not work with my festool track at all though.
@Wittworks yep... just as nuts as the claim made by the videos creator. It's a nice convince but not necessary..... somehow bevels were cut with circular saws b4 tracks even existed... go figure
#1 reason to buy one: they are made better. Milwaukee tracks are slightly different sizes so when you combine two tracks for long cuts, the saw can bind or get sloppy from track to the other.
My feed has been getting a little overwhelmed by "shorts" spam lately, but this one stands out as a very good use of the format. I bet a lot of people were going to try getting away with re-using their Makita tracks and not noticed this subtle safety issue.
The only compatible tool that works for both Makita and Milwaukee that I have is the battery adapter I can use M18 batteries for 36V and 18V Makita tools and vice versa 18V Makita with a Milwaukee battery adapter to use for Milwaukee tools on the M18 tool range.
Just got the saw the other day. Bit the bullet and bought the milwaukee track even though it was twice the price of the makita. They claim it was compatible but there is always these tiny discrepancies.
@@ericgordon9297 I have a clamping cutting guide. It works ok but my saw seems to catch the very end of it and it throws the cut off. Tried it with the level as well it doesn't clamp well.
@@ericgordon9297 not comparable tbh mate. No one who has one would go back They have many advantages, a straight edge only stops movement to one side, The rail acts as a splinter guard giving a factory finish. Allows plunge cuts safely and reliably. Saves measuring how far away from the cut line you need to be with you rail so the blade hits the line. Track saw cuts the rail line. Unless you have a very thin straight edge it tends to foul the motor on the saw.
@@gregkeeyako what's that have to do with not knowing how to cut without a track?? Are you trying to tell me modern carpenters can't cut in a straight line??
A left blade track saw, in your right hand/side, and you don't need to worry about tipping. :) Yet still, 40 years after track saws were (technically) made, a *good* left blade track saw still does not exist.😢
He already has a video of the unboxing and first impressions; if you don't care enough to watch the full vid, fit and finish feels premium on both saws
Why can’t Milwaukee play nice with Festool, Makita, & Powertec? 🙄 ruclips.net/user/shortsM13tK6IQT2E?feature=share First day it didn’t work. I tried again yesterday and adjusted some things and got it to catch. SOMETIMES. if anti tip is a must, Milwaukee track would be best. However I cut all day (regular) with makita track (just needs a fresh splinter guard to marry the saw)
Where's the next video where you try an use the makita track saw on a Milwaukee track??? Wonder who else is gonna live on the edge an mixed an match track saws an tracks.. 🤣
The problem copyright lawyers! They can’t exactly copy any one shape…. Regardless of quality. This is how Festool is asking 200% to 300% more than anyone else! They hold the copyright! If you buy a makita, Milwaukee or any other brand, buy their track! Don’t expect brand to brand to be exactly the same….. thank you lawyers!!! F U copyright lawyers!!
Oh my god guys I bought a tool from a company and they offered an accessory but I said naw I’ll go buy a similar but very different accessory that won’t work from another company
So, if you buy a Milwaukee saw, buy a Milwaukee track.
Right, I don't know why someone would whine about this.
yea I was lost as well , hey I just bought a dewalt drill and my Milwaukee battery will not fit , damn you Milwaukee and other brands making the proper products for their products
One track for all really makes sense though: for example both makita and festool have bigger circular saws that utilize the track. You can also get Adapters for running makita or festool Routers along the track. Why would I want to buy several different tracks for my tools when I can use one for all of them?
Or by the Makita and then you’re compatible with Festool Bosch and a couple others.
Rocket science……….So if I want to buy new wheels for a McLaren I can’t put on wheels from a Toyota???
I don't think anybody who owns Makita track is going to buy a Milwaukee.
Right….
Why not? The makita tracks are the most common and cost effective tracks out there and compatible with all other saws
I’ve already got quite a few makita tracks I use with my dewalt saw and festool and will probably continue to use them if I get the Milwaukee
Makita track saw on a festool track is so smooth and cuts like butter.
@@mitchellharland2014having all the festool tracksaw and the Makita cordless track, the Makita cuts very smooth on festool tracks. I will not buy Milwaukee or dewalt, they suck
One of those 'anybodies' speaking... Good deal on the Packout case + rapid charger and new 6.0 M18 HO did it for me. I have some outdoor M18 stuff with an aging 9AH HD battery (coming up on 6 years old but still doing well). As someone who currently has both track saws, it's hard to peg one or the other as truly 'better'. The Milwaukee is a well-refined late entry, but the Makita 36V isn't bad either - it's a smooth and powerful saw. Better ergonomics on the M18 but the plunge spring is a bit stiffer.
M18's nice for only needing one battery. With the M18, I can make laser-smooth cuts with a single compact 3.0 HO battery in hard old white oak.
The best tip to give is, to not buy a Milwaukee tracksaw, if you already have tracks and a tracksaw made by another brand.
If you're looking for a track saw at all, or if you're already in the M18 lineup or really want to be, it's among the best available. Keep your eye open for deals because kits with charger + battery and cases can be had for
Sorry guys, Milwaukee made improvements from Makita. Powertec track rail also works with milwaukee and it’s a lot cheaper with 2-55 rail.
Darn, they would do that. Makes me sad they have a proprietary track when they didn't have to.
That doesn’t make it a proprietary track. All tracks have small discrepancies or differences even the POWERTEC track that’s made for the Makita and the Festool is different from the Makita at that same very spot. It should also be said that not all track saws all offer that feature you don’t need it to cut a bevel it’s a added convenience.
You don't want a proprietary track, because most of the third party accessories like clamps and squares are for Festool/Makita/Milwaukee tracks.
But to be fair, Makita could also sue Milwaukee for having the same design. But I agree wish these things were more universal and less proprietary
@@machinist7230 NOT Milwaukee.
The anti tip feature works on the milwaukee saw/makita track combo I just got. Just checked it a couple of times. Maybe as it wears it won't. Also there is enough room under the saw if a person was to extend the tab in anyway if they had too. The guides under the saw from what I can tell are not adjustable besides the typical cam tension.
After seeing just how much Milwaukee wanted for everything. The proprietary blade. These slight track differences that won’t allow you to easily bounce between the fitting brands. I bought a bran new festool for 50$ more
Was it a cordless Festool? Because I've been looking, and the cordless Festool is SIGNIFICANTLY more money - you can buy the M18 track saw with a 55" section of Track for less than the Festool with no track at all.
@@machinist7230 Yes I bought the cordless 55, the newest version too. I’m in Canada so it may be a little different for pricing considering Milwaukee is a US brand. The milwaukee tracksaw kit is 900CDN without track plus another $180 for the 55” track. $1080 total vs festool costing 1129 for the KEBI-F-Plus-FS. So everything included ready to go at only 50$ more. I was really hoping Milwaukee would be competitive with the accessories because I did want an intro tool into Milwaukee vs festool. But I’ve been borrowing a lot of festool stuff from a friend and can not flaw the quality and function
Propriety blade.... Yup screw Milwaukee
Bought my brand new milwaukee track saw for $289
@@kendall959 Here in Germany Makita costs 300,38€
I'm using festool TS55 with Festool track without anti tip, made plenty of 45 degree cuts without it and it never bothered me
The answer is.. have good technique and it just doesn’t matter
Just replace the the Milwaukee anti tip washer with a longer one that will work with the Makita
Smart
Or make it thinner. It may just be too high to go under the lip.
Look at the main guide rail as well. The one on the Makita is a mm thinner. So your saw can wobble as you push it.
@@MNCasaPro No, look at the main guide rail. The Makita is a mm thinner.
So, lesson learned guys. Don't buy Milwaukee saw. You shouldn't anyway for other reasons, but this just adds to the list.
Wen tracks work also and the anti-tip feature works perfectly. I purchased the saw only and used my Wen tracks. Very cost effective.
I wish wen made their tracks as long as others. 50” is dumb
@wittworks who cares? Two WEN rails clear a sheet of plywood, and cheaper than a single rail of other brands
Love your video reviews, Witt. After watching several, just liked and subscribed. Looking fwd to more. You may want to point out something else on the Milwaukee guide rail, as well. If you are a TSO accessory fan, which I am, the ONLY accessory TSO currently has that's compatible with Milwaukee's guide rail is the GRS 16 PE Parallel Edge Guide rail square, allowing use of their parallel rails on Milwaukee's guide rail. Neither the original GRS 16 square guide or the current PG adapters work on the Milwaukee rail. After a few conversations with TSO, they informed me they hope to be offering Milwaukee compatible adapters by the end of June or July 2023. Just a heads up, in case any of your viewers were hoping TSO's fine line of accessories would work on the Milwaukee, which excepting the PE, will Not. Great video.
I have to say your going the extra mile on this review and it’s well appreciated thanks
Thanks for putting the video together.
I just bought the milwaukee track saw locally and needed tracks. My local stores don’t have milwaukee tracks. I looked online and found numerous vids including this one. Another video I seen showed the makita track working and the person said it worked good.
There are adjustment knobs on the saw to adjust how it slides along the rail. Could the difference be how those are adjusted…If too loose the saw will come out like this video showed?
Just a thought cause from what I can find for choices in Canada the makita rails are significantly less cost than the milwaukee.
Thanks again for the video.
Update as of Feb.20/24.
I can confirm makita guides do not work with the anti-tip feature.
WEN guide rails do fit the anti tip feature of the milwaukee track saw!
$98 CAD for two 50” guides includes joiners.
One 55” milwaukee is $168 CAD and they aren’t in stock around. 55” is a better length for cross cutting 4x8 sheets but 50” works.
Keep in mind, if you want to use the TSO parallel guides with the quick release adapters you must have festool guide rails. Bite the bullet and go with festool tracks
If you adjust the plastic guides underneath the saw it will move the saw further to the left of the track. If you READ the instructions you will see
I burned the instructions in my fire pit.
Just kidding. I read them. 😀
@@wittworks smart ass. He's right
@@farmermike9262 the problem is that the anti tip nub on the Milwaukee saw is thicker than the one on the Makita. It actually causes the Milwaukee saw to get caught when sliding on the Makita track because of the friction. I spent two hours in store trying both saws and ended up going all Makita even though I wanted the Milwaukee saw more for it's features. Also a bonus that Makita tracks are half the price of the Milwaukee tracks here in Canada. 84.99 for the Makita 55", 168 for the Milwaukee.
My question is what justifies the almost festool price? I’d love to see you do a bit of a review on it. I was going to buy one then I got sticker shock and decided if I’m dropping that much I’ll buy the festool.
Just saw a video discussing this. Track battery, storage box and saw, Festool is over 900 bucks, Milwaukee is 760, and Makita is 740ish.
Personally, I'd buy the Milwaukee if I absolutely had to have a cordless tracksaw. Personally, I'd buy a Makita 120v, at under 400 bucks, and live with the cord.
"Almost Festool"?! 🤔
Home Depot has the M18 for 640 bucks. The cheapest I could find a cordless Festool was $780.
ruclips.net/video/-AZs3yfEPJY/видео.html
The flange isn’t the problem - it’s obvious that the Milwaukee track has a wider rebate.
If Milwaukee and Makita are compatible, then Milwaukee and Festool are compatible as well. Thank You for this fact.
He's saying they are NOT compatible. Makita is compatible with Festool, but NOT with Milwaukee.
Actually fairly compatible you just can't use the tip feature which you wouldn't use very often
So it does work however you need to really twist the locking mechanism. It gets a tiny bit hung up so you think that the mechanism is engaged fully however it is not. You will hear a click when you have twisted the full 90 and it engages and trust me when it does that saw is not going anywhere. I have a Milwaukee tracksaw and it works perfectly on both of my Makita guide rails.
FUN FACT: I just recently bought a Makita track and noticed the logo is a sticker which is odd because all of my other Makita products have embossed or debossed logos. First thing came to mind was these are not made by Makita but rather a third party which means I overpaid =( Makita, Milwaukee, Powertec...etc all made from the same place.
The anti tipping feature is for DIY'ers/weekend warriors. Even if your track is clamped at both ends if in the middle of a 45° cut you let it tip a bit your cut is going to be crap. In my opinion the anti tipping thingy is a useless gimmick.
Moral of the story, Specialised tools need Specialised accessories 🙈
Basixally
I’ve used a tracksaw every day for seven years, and never needed or wanted a tip lock. It only prevents tipping if your track is clamped to the work piece, because at 45° your saw will pull an 8 foot track over with it if you let go.
Dumb question, I already ordered the M18 track saw as my first track saw and was shopping around for clamps when I found out it doesn't come with any. You can use a track saw without clamps/what is the point? If you don't clamp down the track won't it just move around defeating the whole purpose?
You can use one without clamps, but I usually use two clamps just to be safe - especially when doing a bevel cut.
@@xsterawesome the bottom of the tracks have neoprene grip tape, as long as you clean the dust off occasionally with an air compressor, the track will stay in place unless you nudge it while cutting
@@xsterawesomenot really, atleast the festool track sticks really, really well as long as the workpiece isn't too dusty. Don't think I've almost never used clamps with a tracksaw.
Using clamps almost defeats the point of the track system in my mind, I'd only use clamps for something special. They stay in place, and can be quickly moved to the next cut without faffing around with clamps or even finding somewhere to faff them to :p
@@xsterawesome No they don’t move. All tracks have a type of foam or felt strips on the bottom that hold them in place nicely. Just keep both surfaces relatively clean and it’ll stay in place as long as you’re mindful of bumping or twisting the saw as you cut. I typically clamp the track to the piece with my free hand behind the saw.
Even if you’re bevel cutting you’re going to have to use one hand to keep pressure straight down on the base, so there’s still no need for clamps unless it’s a very important cut you’re worried about, or if you’re cutting something vertical in place.
You can clamp the track to anything and just cut it right there.
I have the makita tracks with milwaukee saw and it works just fine. It looks like you didnt have the track adjustment knobs set properly. Also, people saying the blade is proprietary? Its literally not, it has a 20mm arbor, the same as all the other ones.
And if you were wondering why i mixed brands, i had a corded makita for a long time and about $600 already invested in makita tracks, but I am also heavily invested in the m18 platform.
Wow, very eye opening. The Milwaukee saw only works with the Milwaukee track. Who would’ve thought!
Don't buy a Milwaukee saw for your Makita travel.
The guide rail is also narrower on the Makita, so your saw can "wobble" as you push it, and you won't have a straight cut.
There is an adjustment to tighten up the fit.
Thanks for making this video because I was just away to buy a Milwaukee saw and then a makita track
Same goes for flat screws and Phillips screw drivers
I have a Makita track saw, a festool (108")track along with the makita(55" and 28") track, Festool does not have the grove to use the anti tip feature and I can still do bevels, I just have to remember that it can tip off, not a problem though, its easy enough to hold it in place, I now have the Milwaukee saw because I'm deep into Milwaukee batteries and dont want to invest in Makita batteries but I'm sure I can do a bevel with it.
If you want to use parallel guides with your track saw you want TSO parallel guides with their quick release adapters that only work with Festool tracks.
I’ll stick to my Mafell Plunge saw. Blows all the other ones out the water 👌🏼
Shout out to bosch one made by mafell
Agreed, rails are excellent too
It's not the fault of the flange. The guide rail is not in the same place.
Is it a depth of flange issue or is it a height of flange issue?
It looks like the makita track flange is thicker. I think the anti tip on makita sits lower.
The milwaukee has adjustments on both sides of the track so you can move the saw more towards the flange.
You think I didn’t adjust it?
@@wittworks Yes
@@wittworks Well if you look at your own video... the saw is clearly sitting dead middle in the track. I would assume if it was adjusted it would be offset?
Wrong, that only adjusts the blade cut position/ toe in, not where the base would sit on the track all tracksaws have that capability
Change with a 1mm longer one or take it out and add weldings on it.
The anti tip feature is a gimmick. It's for homeowners/DIY'ers. For doing bevel cuts 2 hands are required, one on the trigger/handle and one on the base plate of the saw to prevent any tipping whatsoever. Total gimmick.
How about the Makita saw on a Milwaukee track? I have the Makita but am considering buying the long red track from Home Depot to save the huge shipping fee
Makita, Milwaukee and Festool are all interchangeable. Other tracksaws use proprietary tracks.
@@machinist7230 he means will the makita saws fit in the flange on the Milwaukee tracks
That’s what I was thinking. I understand that all three will work with each others track but will Makita and Festool really work with each other?
I will test the flange tomorrow. So far Milwaukee anti tip doesn’t catch on makita
@@wittworks Sweet, thanks!
Just file the catch a little bit. Not too hard !
Why would you buy a Milwaukee anything when Makita exists?
Milwaukee Nail Guns > everyone else’s
This guy gets it. MAKITA IS KING
To support the lgbt community
I want it to last more than a couple cuts.
Makita has been coasting on its one good tool, an angle grinder from the 80's. Give it up fanboys, they got nothing
Which saw is better?
That's crazy that they wouldn't have engineered it with that 1/8 less distance although I'm sure they did it so that the Makita saw won't even fit on the Milwaukee rail
My milwaukee track saw works flawlessly with my makita tracks. No issues at all. The anti-tip feature on the saw does not work with my festool track at all though.
remember guys, if you want to cool off in the summer with a pool, make sure that pool has water in it.
So basically don’t buy the Milwaukee saw
Horse hockey... I've had the festool 4 years. It doesn't have an anti tilt flange... and I still do bevel cuts....go figure
Didn’t know horses skated. Talked to Festool guy today at woodcraft and he is still scratching his head why they don’t have a lip.
@Wittworks yep... just as nuts as the claim made by the videos creator. It's a nice convince but not necessary..... somehow bevels were cut with circular saws b4 tracks even existed... go figure
This is awkward. I’m the videos creator.
@Wittworks ya,I know... I can only be so gentle........ its become a rare art to not be melodramatic
Im excited that milwaukee made this! How do you like it so far?
I have a file that says it could use a makita track
I love Milwaukee but the electronics fail too quickly.
#1 reason to buy one: they are made better. Milwaukee tracks are slightly different sizes so when you combine two tracks for long cuts, the saw can bind or get sloppy from track to the other.
My feed has been getting a little overwhelmed by "shorts" spam lately, but this one stands out as a very good use of the format. I bet a lot of people were going to try getting away with re-using their Makita tracks and not noticed this subtle safety issue.
Don't they come together? That would seem ridiculous that it doesn't come with the track.
The only compatible tool that works for both Makita and Milwaukee that I have is the battery adapter I can use M18 batteries for 36V and 18V Makita tools and vice versa 18V Makita with a Milwaukee battery adapter to use for Milwaukee tools on the M18 tool range.
Why not but the Makita saw? It's better. Milwaukee is just expensive for no reason
Can i use my makita saw on a Milwaukee track though?
I'm shocked that they don't play nice... that would actually benefit us!
So you're saying just buy the makita saw since it's better anyway
If I'm shelling out $600 for a saw why would I by another brand track?
Just need a longer tab on the Milwaukee saw.
Makita is the best for the price. I am a woodworker and on construction. You dont need more. But if you need to reduce your tax and want Premium do it
Purpose built by Milwaukee?
how about pestool track?
What about Makita track saw on Milwaukee track?
I’m no rocket scientist but I’d say the Makita flange was wider than the Milwaukee’s.
Can you do a kreg track vs milwaukee track
Ah, another sweet vendor lock-in feature from them both. Now you need a Makita for your track. The only loser is your wallet.
Hey , can I use your track with my saw, I left mine at home ?
Unless you live in the UK where we aren’t allowed to have the anti tip feature so it doesn’t matter anyway.
What about Makita saw in Milwaukee track.
I've never used the anti tip feature in the 5 years I've been using a track saw
Seems like such a petty thing to do. No way they did that by accident.
Just got the saw the other day. Bit the bullet and bought the milwaukee track even though it was twice the price of the makita. They claim it was compatible but there is always these tiny discrepancies.
Why not just buy a straight edge or level to use as guide?? All you gotta do is clamp both ends and you cut straight every time.
@@ericgordon9297 I have a clamping cutting guide. It works ok but my saw seems to catch the very end of it and it throws the cut off. Tried it with the level as well it doesn't clamp well.
@@ericgordon9297 not comparable tbh mate. No one who has one would go back
They have many advantages, a straight edge only stops movement to one side, The rail acts as a splinter guard giving a factory finish. Allows plunge cuts safely and reliably. Saves measuring how far away from the cut line you need to be with you rail so the blade hits the line. Track saw cuts the rail line. Unless you have a very thin straight edge it tends to foul the motor on the saw.
@@ericgordon9297 you know its 2023...
@@gregkeeyako what's that have to do with not knowing how to cut without a track?? Are you trying to tell me modern carpenters can't cut in a straight line??
I use Fesstool track saw
I need one!!
time to modify the little tab that sticks out by making another one that fits it
Wittworks is a witty little boy,🤣 over 700 cuts with my Makita track saw and no issues still going strong your a good little fanboy
The finish is also different
You have two hands. One on the saw, one to keep te saw on the track. Done. No bs fancy pants rails with possible inaccuracies.
Ummm I’m confused, if you buy a Milwaukee track saw use there track. But my makita locks in just fine on the makita track!
You would think the competing brand would make their track work with their competitors track saw 🤔
Can’t you whip up a new 3d printed cam so that the milwaukee would then work on the Makita rail?
A left blade track saw, in your right hand/side, and you don't need to worry about tipping. :)
Yet still, 40 years after track saws were (technically) made, a *good* left blade track saw still does not exist.😢
I know. I know.
Question: When using the Milwaukee saw on the Milwaukee track, do 45 degree bevels line up PERFECTLY when the rail was ripped at 90 degree?
Any opinion of the quality of each compared to one another?
He already has a video of the unboxing and first impressions; if you don't care enough to watch the full vid, fit and finish feels premium on both saws
Quality seems on par. So far. We’ll see.
Its thicker and better made then the Milwaukee
Kien here.... were you able to verify if the makita corded was compatible with the anti-tip feature of the milwaukee track saw guide? Thanks
Why can’t Milwaukee play nice with Festool, Makita, & Powertec? 🙄
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First day it didn’t work. I tried again yesterday and adjusted some things and got it to catch. SOMETIMES. if anti tip is a must, Milwaukee track would be best. However I cut all day (regular) with makita track (just needs a fresh splinter guard to marry the saw)
Why?
Shocker! Milwaukee track saws work better with Milwaukee tracks. In other shocking news, flames are hot, ice is cold and water make things wet.
Bosch and mafell tracks are miles ahead
If anyone bought a Milwaukee track saw and then bought a Makita track for it? I just don't trust your judgement.
Woah, it's almost like they used different designs or something
Yeah but still, i buy Makita tools, they just works better
Where's the next video where you try an use the makita track saw on a Milwaukee track??? Wonder who else is gonna live on the edge an mixed an match track saws an tracks.. 🤣
If you already have the Makita saw and track, why did you buy the Milwaukee saw? Does the Milwaukee saw have better features than the Makita saw?
For my business of track saw product development
you never said if the Makita will fit on the Milwakee track
Now in breaking news, don't but festool battery's for your ryobi impact
BUT THE GREENS MATCH!
Tu limes un chouillat en pointe l’ergot et ça devrait le faire
The problem copyright lawyers! They can’t exactly copy any one shape…. Regardless of quality. This is how Festool is asking 200% to 300% more than anyone else! They hold the copyright! If you buy a makita, Milwaukee or any other brand, buy their track! Don’t expect brand to brand to be exactly the same….. thank you lawyers!!! F U copyright lawyers!!
Oh my god guys I bought a tool from a company and they offered an accessory but I said naw I’ll go buy a similar but very different accessory that won’t work from another company