how do you never need it? just by not ever giving a fuck what your parents think about you? or your siblings? or your friends? or yourself? thats what their saying. its pretty hard not to yearn for approval when you've hardly ever felt it. it's like happiness, or anger or anything like that. you're gonna need at least some of it in the long run, no matter what way you look at it, unless you just plan to rot away in your bed till you die, then i guess you could skip the approval.
Cesar Vasquez Believe me you don’t need approval. You need to be chasing your goal, and the only approval you need is yourself, and be confident and yourself without caring what anybody thinks of you.
Slurp well everyone is insecure. Whether it’s about looks career or whatever. People feel ‘I’m not enough’ and that causes every single problem in life.
Im an actor in LA and I can truly say, I hate being around actors. Some of the fakest people I’ve ever met and most of them are overly nice to people they think they can get something out of.
I've been around actors working in the industry and they are some of the most fake people ever. Jason Priestley was pretty real. Anthony Edwards seemed decent and there was this one guy who was in The Sopranos for one season who was a super genuine and nice guy. Most of the others are fake AF.
Most actors are really insecure. Not all. And many of them have narcissistic tendencies. The key to auditioning is to go in with an "I don't give a shit if I get it or not, I am only here because I had nothing better to do today" mindset.
@@estellepatella2520 I’m sorry bro I just re read it, I thought you were saying it’s narcissistic to go into it with an “ I don’t give a hoot attitude” you were actually just giving a tip. That’s actually a really good tip.
TheReturnofStephan1 - When I visited a comedy club for the very first time, it seemed like half of the comedians were high on coke or speed. They were funny, but high.
@@JONNOG88 having been raised on a dairy farm and worked for several others over my life, I agree with your post. Are you a workaholic who never wants a day off or any free time at all, dealing with large animals that hate you & will attack you if they feel threatened, while earning next to nothing for the rest of your life? Then farming might just be for you!!
It's true though. I think a lot of people arriving in Hollywood still have this romanticized sort of 1930s view of it and think they'll become this big film star and live happily ever after in a mansion in Beverly Hills. They arrive and realise there's half a million other aspiring but insecure actors living in LA who get constantly rejected and are living in misery! There's precious few nowadays who seem to want to make films and act for the artistic merit.
Nah they arent jesters. Jesters use comedy and perfomance as satire and to poke fun at things as well as be talented in the arts to get their point across. Modern day jesters are probably more like talk show hosts of varying kinds. Id even compare joe rogan to one over actors
In the medieval Royal courts Of Europe & beyond, The Jester had a double role. Aside from being the only One allowed by or near the Sovereign , he was the Assassin.....
I remember my first audition, I bombed horribly. But I felt 10 feet tall when I left, because even though I was unprepared and out of my element. I still went through it
Frank P That's a good point. That's what they both are. And I realize it's easier said than done. But I think, if fear is a problem for you. That's the best way.
There are 2 ways of getting around this. 1) do you own work and keep yourself working (takes away a lot of pressure in auditions) 2) join an MMA gym and learn to get beaten up.
I did a shoe commercial once. When we were shooting it I was the absolute center of the universe. I realized then the money was NOT worth how disconnected from reality too many actors get, and it could happen so fast. Your every move on set is crazy. You're sudden level of importance to this huge number of people producing the commercial is incomprehensible. I can't imagine a career like that. It's an INSANE existence!!! You feel like a pharoh.
Bc he was also dying to be a famous actor. He was mediocre as an actor and comedian, but is pretty decent as a UFC commentator and his podcast is great.
MediTruth yup...i double majored in college in sociology and film. I couldn't even stand most of the film students..they already had some of that Hollywood mentality and most were headed to Los Angeles after graduation. I got sick of it really quick and never went to L.A. for that! I will still miss college and the sociology program, but so glad I never have to see most of the film majors ever again!
Yet the only Presidential actors were Elitist right-wing inbred retards like Trump & Reagan, who's sole purpose was to take money from the poor & middleclass and give it to their fellow swamp monsters while they enrich themselves. (Reverse Robinhoodism) Imho Dems & Reps that think they're "woke" are sleeping hard. They're on the same side. It's time we drop the labels and stop falling for controlled opposition aka divide & conquer
Controlled Opposition So what are you suggesting? That all conservative Republicans should just adopt the communist Democratic platform? Although I agree the "divide and conquer" strategy is being used on our society, joining forces is impossible from either side. They are diametrically opposed to one another. Funny thing is though, the vast majority of conservatives just want to live their lives in peace. They want a decent job, raise a family, and especially not be told how to live their own lives. But it is the left that is always forcing their ideological beliefs on our society. Now that they control our education system, media, and have a death grip on our justice system, well, it ain't lookin good for conservative America. Seems to me we're witnessing a slow genocide. So I guess you'll have your way in the end.
When I was 17 years old, I wanted to be an actress, I was actually quite good at it and got straight A's in drama class. I thought I wanted to be an actress but I really just wanted to be famous because my parents neglected me as a child, I was invisible to them, I wanted to be noticed, I wanted to be loved. Well, I went on to become a biologist which was a better career path because science is based in reality and I needed to get back to reality, I was so lost in my ego. I wanted attention but in a science lab you don't get much attention so I learnt to be okay not having attention. Most people aren't interested in my work because they are scientifically illiterate and don't understand what I do.
I was in the same situation as you but instead of being an actress it was being a musician. Its so, so freeing to finally feel that it’s okay if nobody witnesses me, because i witness myself
As a teenager I wanted to be in a rock / metal band . But after studying and listening to what many musicians go through as is similar in the film and model industry . I realised it wasnt worth it . You cant put a price on you r physical and mental health or you r integrity and morality . But that is what poeple end up doing in the arts industry plus end up with alchohol and drug additions , sex addictions. It is the whole cult of it all . Women and children especially vulnerable . It is amazing how any parent would want to get a child to be an actor working in this industry with adults . Look at the train wrock of the adults and then to expose a child to it ?
Nowadays I think some younger actors/musicians are fame hounds But if you think back to high school - the kids into drama and music were generally outliers, kinda nerds - so if they do make it big, some people that may be kind of naturally introverted are now celebrities with no privacy - who may naturally be kind of geeky are now supposed to be "hip"
+Rusty Ass Yeah as I said, the younger generation are probably all driven by Kardashian fame - famous for being untalented or having a nice ass, but are attention whores But people like cobain or cornell that were just driven by a passion, but not attention seeking social butterflies or just kind of "damaged" somehow - put in positions that made them uncomfortable 24/7 and no amount of drugs or excess brought them escape from crushing notoriety and scrutiny - I don't know, maybe I'm just projecting
agreed, i mean if youve ever seen reruns of 70s TV, older movies, or rock stars, those talented actors/musicians would never be given a chance to be stars today - sure there are people like charlize theron or ryan reynolds that happen to be hugely talented and attractive, but most "musicians" and "actors" are mostly just pretty faces
Akilleus i guess youve never seen montage of heck - sure did cobain want money, who doesnt - but he was driven by a passion and using music as an outlet for his demons - and money and a lifestyle that got him access to drugs to kill his physical and mental pain i can almost guarantee you kim kardashian feeds of her fame, and would only resort to suicide if some of her plastic surgery goes wrong
Guy Hawkes sure dude, how is that related to the discussion though? And why do you think it offends me when I've clearly told you I'm agnostic? Don't get your panties in a bunch so easy. And try to overcome the intellectual deficit that prevents you from staying on topic. Dipshit.
What’s funny about this is I see a parallel in politicians. When Joe says it attracts people for whom this is the worst possible career, I think the same applies. Politics should attract caring people that want to change the world but instead it’s just become a sick game played by power hungry narcissists
I've always wondered if acting had a psychological impact on the actors/actresses in the entertainment industry. Due to the fact they constantly have to change mentally to fit in character
Joe described a person who was sexually aggressive towards many actors they were casting. Sounds like those actors can accuse that person of rape in the next 20 years right?
Joe Rogan In A Nutshell 1. I run hills using Vibram shoes 2. I eat elk meat everyday 3. I bow hunt 4. I have a bit about it in my special 5. I wish there were more than 3 judges at MMA fights 6. My friend Cam Hanes 7. Barboza is an animal 8. Do you know about Dimethyltryptamine? 9. Psilocybin does 10. Decorticator anyone? 11. I have chickens at home 12. Sober October 13. Keto Flu 14. I have tendonitis in my right elbow 15. Regenokine 16. I was reading this article about... 17. I have powerful friends at RUclips 18. Young Jamie pull this up 19. John Dudley 20. I was at the Comedy Store the other day and happened 21. The Google Pixel has those headphones that translate languages 22. It's because of tribalism 23. Marxism 24. Wow 25. That's crazy FYI - I stole this.
yeah, its a extract of the original podcast, is not like you are a question machine lol, you are free to talk so you can give context to anything you are talking about, it wouldnt have much sense if joe were only asking questions and answering "yes" and "no"
It can actually be both Joe, a combination of desire for attention that wasn't fulfilled in childhood (loss of a parent, divorce, etc), and then the love of the craft and art of acting can take over too. They often work in tandem, and it's a mighty whirlpool.
If a guy is doing what Joe described that woman to be doing, he would be demonized, likely fired, and would have to publicly apologize. I’m sure some would even call it rape.
The world outside is vastly different to the world online. It's really weird. Normal people wouldn't really care, they would think the dude is either a legend or a creep much like people do with Dan Bilzerian. Hugh Hefner literally had it setup that every playmate would fuck him and he in turn would platform them for the big leagues and he was an American icon. Ignore the idiots on tumblr. I rarely come across (it's literally 1 in a 100) such freaks day to day. They only make the headlines because they are very dedicated and concentrate their energy into one place, the same way the alt-right does.
Of course he would. This is what liberalism has done to us. Free speech is just about dead because of their madness. Fuck political correctness and fuck their feelings.
Tubi well Weinstein got away with it forever... But yes it's almost impossible as a man to press charges on a woman in court for rape and everyone would laugh at you
BigErn_Mccraken That response is very telling. It says a lot about what liberalism is pushing. You should be asking yourself who the real aggressors are and what their agenda really is. If you have any kind of critical thinking skills the answers are obvious. Most do not though. Dumbed down and indoctrinated.
The truth has come out. Most people don't admire/worship actors/actresses anymore after everything that's come out about the industry lately. They're now seen as the weird creeps that most of them are.
@@Kevin-xi6ts Thanks Kev… You probably saw my work on UNSOLVED MYSTERIES’ Little Miss Panasoffkee episode. I was featured as a hitchhiker in the 1970’s who happened upon a dead body floating in the Panasoffkee River. A riveting portrayal. Two thumbs up! So much more can be said, but I want to appear as a humble person to you and the masses because I don’t want you nor anyone else to realize I’m really quite narcissistic and as Joe Rogan mentioned “mentally unstable”, so…
David Bowie's song "The Man who sold the World" Seems to be about this exact same issue of people and identity, especially actors. They pretend to be someone theyre not and they actually convince themselves they're still who they are but everybody else in the world knows them for something entirely different than what their true self is.
Actors are unstable because 1. Many lack mental resiliency or toughness. They lack the life experience or skills they need to cope with the emotions and characters they create. The mind will make that shit real, and theater school won't teach how to do with it, when it gets out of control. 2. Its 60% looks, 45% network, 5% talent. When you go to a casting call where everyone looks like you, there's not much to differentiate yourself from others. Many resort to extreme measures to stand out or get noticed. 3. Hollywood is full of angry beta males, running things, who are left uncheck because everyone is always fake nice (see no.2) or emotionally worn out or weak (see no 1.) to resist. (Tell me James Bond, or any ROMCOM is not the ultimate beta male fantasy.)
@@britmcarther3448 according to my residual checks and resume, I must know something about the craft. If you're the actor, I found with a quick google search, it seems your career is just starting and I wish you the best of luck. When I finally started to break out in acting, I faced a choice where I had to pick between taking care of my family or pursuing my dream. I chose my family. There are many petty perverted people that myself, and many of my more successful acting mentors have encountered, in this industry, and it helped made my decision easier. I will give my life to my art, but I won't sell my soul for it. I wish you the best, and hope you don't have the same encounters as me or my friends.
Yes, major problems in childhood that causes them to want to escape into another character because facing reality is painful. They get so "into" their craft and character escapism that they never end up dealing with their issues. Ticking time bomb.
Yeah....The stress of having to work with a bunch of egomaniacs, dealing with production staff who think they understand the art better than you, working in multiple locations with no guarantee of the: weather,, sets, crew, lighting, cast all being perfect, rehearse after knocking off from your day job, staying healthy and in good voice, memorizing all of the: dialogue, blocking, facial expressions, timing, dance moves(if included), having an understanding partner who doesn't automatically think you're sleeping with the female lead and who knows you will be away a lot, making every moment exist as if that is the first and only time you've been in it and....to cap it all off, for stage acting: being able to feel the crowd and bring them into the narrative without them knowing you're doing that or feeling conned. Being able to truly enthrall and entertain a full theatre of paying customers is a tough gig. There are nights you wonder what went wrong and it wasn't anything you, or the other cast, could've done done anything about. Then...you need to unwind. To let your motor get back to idle and allow the endorphins, serotonin and adrenaline to ebb back to a normal state. Now...go and get some sleep. Oh...I forgot the audition process. Brutal! I know people think ill of the 'Hollywood' types. That stands to reason as they've created that environment for themselves. The machine is relentless and there is a huge dose of self importance. Actors the world over don't associate with that group because it is a world of fakery. All smoke and mirrors and very little substance. Now. Comedians on the other hand... They're all completely normal folk. Hahahaha!
I'm an actor and I honestly never been bothered by auditions or being rejected. I know these gatekeepers are tainted crazy folk, and I know their choices are so unpredictable that there is really no point in taking it personally. You NEVER find out the real reason you got picked or rejected anyway. (Except when you land on the casting couch cause that is some rock solid evidence). I always tell myself "This happened before, it will happen again, just stick to your craft and stay persistent and the moment you get to display your craft they will all go: Fuck us, we made a mistake!" By the way, for that to not make you look like a delusional asshole you actually have to be a good craftsmen though. Just so you know.
This is the case for most art schools. Whether it's visual art, music or drama, the rejection is real and the criticism is intense. It's a situation that attracts fucked up people.
My dream was to be a famous singer like Celine Dion but I could not handle the rejections and suffering I had to endure. I gave up and sing for myself now.
Like when Kevin Spacey sued Anthony Rapp for slander. Oh, wait...Spacey made a half-assed apology, crawled into an Arizona hole, a dozen other stories followed, and his career is toast. And it's not as though Rogan is new to outing people who commit egregious acts. Carlos Mencia?
This is also the same in the world of music, not all but many aspiring young performers/artists/composers I met at uni didn’t genuinely love music first and foremost, they were insecure and narcissistic and saw it as a potential path to fame and attention - a friend of mine was obsessed with the idea of turning up to Carnegie Hall in a limo wearing a tuxedo greeted by paparazzi
The whole basis of being an “actor” is bizarre and disturbing. Constantly being out of character, where in your career you get rewarded for how good your personality change is
Joe, actors are mentally versatile bro’. Just like genius can be easily mistaken for madness, so too can the talent of acting be taken for being bonkers... (However like all professions there’s the odd genuine nutter - naturally statistically even across the board.)
The thing to remember about auditions is: they are looking to cast a very specific type for the role. If you are not the type, they pass on your audition. I realize how difficult rejection is but you can’t take it personally and you can’t give up. Perseverance wins the role.
I did an audition for the movie Last Castle many years back and it was weird. They talked about me like I was not in the room for a bit and then after a couple minutes they looked at me and said "you would need to shave your head" I didn't know what to say cause it wasn't a question so I awkwardly stood there for what felt like a long time and then said "would that give me the role?" The lady said "we would need to see you with your head shaved". I told them I could not do that because my normal job was customer facing and my boss would lose her mind (well, more than usual she was always freaking out about something). That was that. I never had much interest in acting though did some stage stuff to help friends who were playwrights. I'd just went down there because it was filming in my town and they specifically said they were looking for muscular, athletic men to fill small roles as military prisoners. The irony is years later I shaved my head and now keep it that way.
He's a Libertarian pretty much if you listen to him enough. He has a 'leave us alone' attitude towards Government, he doesn't like war, he talks about government waste, corruption, and the deep states strangle hold on America, mentioning how it's really ran by huge corporations. Joe's a Libertarian which is a Progressive. He's just not a Progressive Socialist.
This is true ... however, as an actor myself, one should have a healthy outlet... I’m a martial artist... and yes... actors can’t be “conservative “ and the audition process is hard
I feel sympathetic for people like this... They should have read the Velveteen Rabbit as a kid (or even as adult). A quote: “Real isn’t how you are made,” said the Skin Horse. “It’s a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real.” “Does it hurt?” asked the Rabbit. “Sometimes,” said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. “When you are Real you don’t mind being hurt.” “Does it happen all at once, like being wound up,” he asked “It doesn’t happen all at once,” said the Skin Horse. “You become. It takes a long time. That’s why it doesn’t happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don’t matter at all, because once you are Real you can’t be ugly, except to people who don’t understand.”
I thought I wanted to be an actor when I was a kid, and I was a huge class clown and loved to make people laugh. I’m really glad that notion faded over time, it seems wild out there. Wild can be fun hell yeah, but instability is way worse
OK I have a friend who is an acting coach and a professor at a small university in Ohio and we had this discussion once how does an actor create a character without losing themselves in the reality of it and his response was they create their character peripherally and not in front of them. My response to that is we cannot live peripheral everything that we create is in front of us through feelings and thought. Meaning what I/eye believe myself to be is what I/eye am. I don’t mean we just put thought to it . I mean to sew it into our Being.
The trick to getting approval is to never need it.
DrowFighterMage Holy fuck, someone finally said it! Thank you.
exactly
how do you never need it? just by not ever giving a fuck what your parents think about you? or your siblings? or your friends? or yourself? thats what their saying. its pretty hard not to yearn for approval when you've hardly ever felt it. it's like happiness, or anger or anything like that. you're gonna need at least some of it in the long run, no matter what way you look at it, unless you just plan to rot away in your bed till you die, then i guess you could skip the approval.
Cesar Vasquez Believe me you don’t need approval. You need to be chasing your goal, and the only approval you need is yourself, and be confident and yourself without caring what anybody thinks of you.
If you don’t approve of yourself no one else is gonna approve you
Joe "It doesn't matter what I say. People will use the quote as my new middle name" Rogan
Jared Vincent Best one so far! 👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂
No Jared. Just no, not now.
The meme is now dead. This guy just performed the autopsy.
Joe "I have adopted Jared Vincent as my son" Rogan.
when did this start? lol
i mean, im mentally unstable and I’m not even an actor
Lmao 😂😂😂
😆
Slurp well everyone is insecure. Whether it’s about looks career or whatever. People feel ‘I’m not enough’ and that causes every single problem in life.
@@Lisa_M_V I'm concerned more with dealing with negative comments not out of insecurity but because the pain of being disrespected.
@@darrenpat182 is it narcissism? I feel the same
Joe 'I used to date this girl' Rogan
WESLEY Reacts fuck! You beat me to it
he is the kinda dude who always has that convenient story about a crazy ex girlfriend
WESLEY Reacts rogan is “that guy” lol
Well he works in Hollywood, so it is believable to find a girl that was in a relationship with an actress.. you incel
Magus Armada I always forget the part of the Internet that has a stick up their ass. Thanks for reminding me.
Im an actor in LA and I can truly say, I hate being around actors. Some of the fakest people I’ve ever met and most of them are overly nice to people they think they can get something out of.
You too are fake
I've been around actors working in the industry and they are some of the most fake people ever. Jason Priestley was pretty real. Anthony Edwards seemed decent and there was this one guy who was in The Sopranos for one season who was a super genuine and nice guy. Most of the others are fake AF.
As a theatre major I can confirm actors are insane
Fresca M Same! What university are you studying at?
Fresca M so are the crew members.
And the directors are jerks.
@@britmcarther3448 nah.
casting ppl and mgrs. can be mean too, dealt with some humiliation from them, glad I tried, but lucky I could walk away
Most actors are really insecure. Not all. And many of them have narcissistic tendencies. The key to auditioning is to go in with an "I don't give a shit if I get it or not, I am only here because I had nothing better to do today" mindset.
Oh cool! Next time I have an audition, I'll just grab a quick cup of mindset on the way in. Problem solved, thanks! :D
The best mindset to have would be "I'm here because I love this job and I don't give a shit what people think"
@@estellepatella2520 their there what’s the difference
@@estellepatella2520 I’m sorry bro I just re read it, I thought you were saying it’s narcissistic to go into it with an “ I don’t give a hoot attitude” you were actually just giving a tip. That’s actually a really good tip.
Because it’s true, acting isn’t everything, if you don’t make the cut, at least you’ve got legs and feet and eyes and a brain to appreciate life
Comedians are also pretty unstable...
TheReturnofStephan1 - When I visited a comedy club for the very first time, it seemed like half of the comedians were high on coke or speed. They were funny, but high.
Cattle Farmers are *even more* unstable 😁🤣
@@JONNOG88 having been raised on a dairy farm and worked for several others over my life, I agree with your post.
Are you a workaholic who never wants a day off or any free time at all, dealing with large animals that hate you & will attack you if they feel threatened, while earning next to nothing for the rest of your life? Then farming might just be for you!!
Uranium isotopes are also pretty unstable...
Lee Oliver wait.. so why do you do it then?
joe rogan: actors are mentally unstable
also joe rogan in the thumbnail: 😳😳😳😳
😂😂😂😂😂
"Mmmmmmmarketing"
he knows he's crazy though. that's why we love him. self awareness.
🤣🤣🤣
Jamie's thumbnail game is always on point.
I love how Joe always rips on actors haha
he didnt want to be an actor he just wanted to get into show biz. he prefers standup and podcasting.
Joe rips on everybody but he also likes them alot. He goes back and forth.
It's true though. I think a lot of people arriving in Hollywood still have this romanticized sort of 1930s view of it and think they'll become this big film star and live happily ever after in a mansion in Beverly Hills. They arrive and realise there's half a million other aspiring but insecure actors living in LA who get constantly rejected and are living in misery! There's precious few nowadays who seem to want to make films and act for the artistic merit.
And he’s a failed actor himself 😂😂😂
@@willkehler News Radio was actually on TV for a few seasons so not failed.
He hated acting anyway.
Over-payed modern day Jesters, and for some reason we value their opinions like they're gods.
Not true. I root for the bad guys.
Fuck is this "we" shit?
Kaname Locon that’s what “we” means
Nah they arent jesters. Jesters use comedy and perfomance as satire and to poke fun at things as well as be talented in the arts to get their point across. Modern day jesters are probably more like talk show hosts of varying kinds. Id even compare joe rogan to one over actors
In the medieval Royal courts
Of Europe & beyond,
The Jester had a double role.
Aside from being the only
One allowed by or near the
Sovereign , he was the
Assassin.....
I remember my first audition, I bombed horribly. But I felt 10 feet tall when I left, because even though I was unprepared and out of my element. I still went through it
Proud of you. That's a very healthy mindset being proud of yourself, not for the reward but for the action
Convince yourself you don't want the role. Go into the audition hoping you don't get it. That's the best way to overcome fear of auditions.
Or just think of it has practice.
thanksfernuthin
This is also a good way to go into normal job interviews.
Frank P
That's a good point. That's what they both are. And I realize it's easier said than done. But I think, if fear is a problem for you. That's the best way.
There are 2 ways of getting around this. 1) do you own work and keep yourself working (takes away a lot of pressure in auditions) 2) join an MMA gym and learn to get beaten up.
I feel like this is great advice ...
I did a shoe commercial once. When we were shooting it I was the absolute center of the universe. I realized then the money was NOT worth how disconnected from reality too many actors get, and it could happen so fast. Your every move on set is crazy. You're sudden level of importance to this huge number of people producing the commercial is incomprehensible. I can't imagine a career like that. It's an INSANE existence!!! You feel like a pharoh.
I have no idea how Joe Rogan has lasted decades in LA aka The LAnd of Snakes. It is a cultural and logistical nightmare.
Frederick0220 Because he is a snake.lol
He plays the game. Not that difficult to understand.
Bc he was also dying to be a famous actor. He was mediocre as an actor and comedian, but is pretty decent as a UFC commentator and his podcast is great.
rob u agreed. He acts apart from it but he played it for years.
MediTruth yup...i double majored in college in sociology and film. I couldn't even stand most of the film students..they already had some of that Hollywood mentality and most were headed to Los Angeles after graduation. I got sick of it really quick and never went to L.A. for that! I will still miss college and the sociology program, but so glad I never have to see most of the film majors ever again!
The line between crazy and genius is very thin.
A genius is just a financially success crazy person.
yes
Yeah like Tarantino and Lovecraft
Most actors aren’t geniuses through. They just have a pretty face and read some lines
Yes but actors aren't really crazy they're just really insecure and make dumb decisions whilst also being hypocrites
The ancient Greeks and Roman's thought that actors couldn't be trusted because they lived fantasies
Hollyweird
I hope there will be blood!
Hollywood is the embodiment of liberal retardation and their exploitation of our media and entertainment.
Yet the only Presidential actors were Elitist right-wing inbred retards like Trump & Reagan, who's sole purpose was to take money from the poor & middleclass and give it to their fellow swamp monsters while they enrich themselves. (Reverse Robinhoodism) Imho Dems & Reps that think they're "woke" are sleeping hard. They're on the same side. It's time we drop the labels and stop falling for controlled opposition aka divide & conquer
Joey Rabon TTD
Controlled Opposition So what are you suggesting? That all conservative Republicans should just adopt the communist Democratic platform? Although I agree the "divide and conquer" strategy is being used on our society, joining forces is impossible from either side. They are diametrically opposed to one another. Funny thing is though, the vast majority of conservatives just want to live their lives in peace. They want a decent job, raise a family, and especially not be told how to live their own lives. But it is the left that is always forcing their ideological beliefs on our society. Now that they control our education system, media, and have a death grip on our justice system, well, it ain't lookin good for conservative America. Seems to me we're witnessing a slow genocide. So I guess you'll have your way in the end.
“I tell people im from N.Y..... it sounds cooler”
Yup, humanity is lost.
Just because one person thinks that way that doesn't all of humanity is doom.
You lie too
It was a bit hyperbolic, but a lot of people in the acting / show business industry think that way
Goose My old manager was mexican and would tell everyone he was italian cause idk I guess he thought it made him sound “cooler”.
@@nelsikegaming thats bullshit, that just shows who frivolous people is
When I was 17 years old, I wanted to be an actress, I was actually quite good at it and got straight A's in drama class. I thought I wanted to be an actress but I really just wanted to be famous because my parents neglected me as a child, I was invisible to them, I wanted to be noticed, I wanted to be loved.
Well, I went on to become a biologist which was a better career path because science is based in reality and I needed to get back to reality, I was so lost in my ego. I wanted attention but in a science lab you don't get much attention so I learnt to be okay not having attention. Most people aren't interested in my work because they are scientifically illiterate and don't understand what I do.
I'm happy you found the right path. Acting is a path that breeds vanity and narcissism. So I'm happy you found a better path
Sounds like you still have a bit of that ego left over tho. Good for you to find yourself and divert career path tho, keep going
Seems you didn’t lose your ego..
I was in the same situation as you but instead of being an actress it was being a musician. Its so, so freeing to finally feel that it’s okay if nobody witnesses me, because i witness myself
As a teenager I wanted to be in a rock / metal band . But after studying and listening to what many musicians go through as is similar in the film and model industry . I realised it wasnt worth it .
You cant put a price on you r physical and mental health or you r integrity and morality . But that is what poeple end up doing in the arts industry plus end up with alchohol and drug additions , sex addictions. It is the whole cult of it all . Women and children especially vulnerable . It is amazing how any parent would want to get a child to be an actor working in this industry with adults . Look at the train wrock of the adults and then to expose a child to it ?
3:45
“I’m not good at pretending to be someone.”
Yes, that might be a slight problem when trying to get ACTING GIGS.
Jim Geary i think he ment as in real life, not playing a role in movies
Julie MyDuyen that skill probably translates
😂😭💀
Hell, I have a hard time pretending to be me
😁😅
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Nowadays I think some younger actors/musicians are fame hounds
But if you think back to high school - the kids into drama and music were generally outliers, kinda nerds - so if they do make it big, some people that may be kind of naturally introverted are now celebrities with no privacy - who may naturally be kind of geeky are now supposed to be "hip"
S C I think your on to something !
+Rusty Ass
Yeah as I said, the younger generation are probably all driven by Kardashian fame - famous for being untalented or having a nice ass, but are attention whores
But people like cobain or cornell that were just driven by a passion, but not attention seeking social butterflies or just kind of "damaged" somehow - put in positions that made them uncomfortable 24/7 and no amount of drugs or excess brought them escape from crushing notoriety and scrutiny - I don't know, maybe I'm just projecting
I hate how all "actors" now are insanely good looking. They're all cookie cutter models
agreed, i mean if youve ever seen reruns of 70s TV, older movies, or rock stars, those talented actors/musicians would never be given a chance to be stars today - sure there are people like charlize theron or ryan reynolds that happen to be hugely talented and attractive, but most "musicians" and "actors" are mostly just pretty faces
Akilleus
i guess youve never seen montage of heck - sure did cobain want money, who doesnt - but he was driven by a passion and using music as an outlet for his demons - and money and a lifestyle that got him access to drugs to kill his physical and mental pain
i can almost guarantee you kim kardashian feeds of her fame, and would only resort to suicide if some of her plastic surgery goes wrong
5:18 "I can't tell you who it is" i bet he told him off air
Joe "I CAN'T TELL YOU" Rogan.
Guy Hawkes go fuck yourself, bud.
Guy Hawkes I'm agnostic, actually.
Guy Hawkes sure dude, how is that related to the discussion though? And why do you think it offends me when I've clearly told you I'm agnostic? Don't get your panties in a bunch so easy. And try to overcome the intellectual deficit that prevents you from staying on topic. Dipshit.
Kanye West said it best
“We’re all insecure, I’m just the first to admit it.
Self conscious* lol
Yeah they talk about actors like they are the worst people to walk on earth. If somebody needs approval good for him.
Rare moment of awareness from crazy-ass Kanye
He's not the first to admit it. That's Kanye's ego running the show. . . once again.
he said “We’re all selfconcious I’m just the first to admit it’
You can tell who really wants to act for the sake of acting from those who just want fame.
William Sullivan its called talent.
Daniel day Lewis
Wiz Sauce Saoirse Ronan. Up the Irish!
My last name is Boyle.
The best ones are the ones in plays and they are not famous. Those people master their craft.
What’s funny about this is I see a parallel in politicians. When Joe says it attracts people for whom this is the worst possible career, I think the same applies. Politics should attract caring people that want to change the world but instead it’s just become a sick game played by power hungry narcissists
And sales and marketing people .
Especially tough guy actors
They think they are real life hitman
(Seagal) 😂😂
I've always wondered if acting had a psychological impact on the actors/actresses in the entertainment industry. Due to the fact they constantly have to change mentally to fit in character
Contributing factor to why Daniel Day-Lewis retired, he got depressed after each role cuz of how invested he got.
I would think so
Best Bruce Springsteen impression ever 😂😂
Best Joe Rogan moment ever, holy fuck that was gold
Too understandable
Joe described a person who was sexually aggressive towards many actors they were casting. Sounds like those actors can accuse that person of rape in the next 20 years right?
Nah they`re men, they asked for it.... Men can`t be raped because we can`t get aroused unless we want to, ?
That story was about a female casting agent. Women and minorities are victims only and always virtuous. So no rape in that story.
@@Turk_2023 ...or unless we need the part to feed ourselves. Sure sounds like an exploitative, asymetrical power relationship to me.
She's not strong enough to force herself on them, so they're being coerced, not raped. Still not okay though.
@@maryann2970 I hope to God your being sarcastic.
Bryan "I used to date this guy" Callen
Theatre actors and film actors are two different breeds, for sure.
Joe Rogan In A Nutshell
1. I run hills using Vibram shoes
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7. Barboza is an animal
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22. It's because of tribalism
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You could probably do that with every person who has a podcast. You see so much of Joe that its easy to pick him apart like that.
Where the fuck is: a buddy of mine?!!
DMT
U forgot “a buddy of mine”
It almost seems like Joe is the guest. He’s doing all the talking.
Its his podcast not an interview
He IS a ♌️...
yeah, its a extract of the original podcast, is not like you are a question machine lol, you are free to talk so you can give context to anything you are talking about, it wouldnt have much sense if joe were only asking questions and answering "yes" and "no"
"when the actor becomes the act."
Joe “Everyone In LA is crazy” rogan
It can actually be both Joe, a combination of desire for attention that wasn't fulfilled in childhood (loss of a parent, divorce, etc), and then the love of the craft and art of acting can take over too. They often work in tandem, and it's a mighty whirlpool.
100 %
If a guy is doing what Joe described that woman to be doing, he would be demonized, likely fired, and would have to publicly apologize. I’m sure some would even call it rape.
The world outside is vastly different to the world online. It's really weird. Normal people wouldn't really care, they would think the dude is either a legend or a creep much like people do with Dan Bilzerian. Hugh Hefner literally had it setup that every playmate would fuck him and he in turn would platform them for the big leagues and he was an American icon.
Ignore the idiots on tumblr. I rarely come across (it's literally 1 in a 100) such freaks day to day. They only make the headlines because they are very dedicated and concentrate their energy into one place, the same way the alt-right does.
Of course he would. This is what liberalism has done to us. Free speech is just about dead because of their madness. Fuck political correctness and fuck their feelings.
Tubi well Weinstein got away with it forever... But yes it's almost impossible as a man to press charges on a woman in court for rape and everyone would laugh at you
BigErn_Mccraken That response is very telling. It says a lot about what liberalism is pushing. You should be asking yourself who the real aggressors are and what their agenda really is. If you have any kind of critical thinking skills the answers are obvious. Most do not though. Dumbed down and indoctrinated.
BigErn_Mccraken Pretty much the kneejerk response I expected.
The truth has come out. Most people don't admire/worship actors/actresses anymore after everything that's come out about the industry lately. They're now seen as the weird creeps that most of them are.
I love his podcasts he always talks about something different and it's always interesting he really knows how to pick people to bring on his pod cast
exactly what I said about acting from 90s.
Yeah, evil makes people unstable.
Joe "*entire therapy session worth of personal statements* Rogan
As an actor and member of the SCREEN ACTORS GUILD for 33+ years and counting....that's all I really wanted to say.
Prove it
@@Kevin-xi6ts Thanks Kev…
You probably saw my work on UNSOLVED MYSTERIES’ Little Miss Panasoffkee episode. I was featured as a hitchhiker in the 1970’s who happened upon a dead body floating in the Panasoffkee River. A riveting portrayal. Two thumbs up!
So much more can be said, but I want to appear as a humble person to you and the masses because I don’t want you nor anyone else to realize I’m really quite narcissistic and as Joe Rogan mentioned “mentally unstable”, so…
David Bowie's song "The Man who sold the World"
Seems to be about this exact same issue of people and identity, especially actors. They pretend to be someone theyre not and they actually convince themselves they're still who they are but everybody else in the world knows them for something entirely different than what their true self is.
Joe "you should see a hypnotist" Rogan
Actors are unstable because
1. Many lack mental resiliency or toughness. They lack the life experience or skills they need to cope with the emotions and characters they create. The mind will make that shit real, and theater school won't teach how to do with it, when it gets out of control.
2. Its 60% looks, 45% network, 5% talent. When you go to a casting call where everyone looks like you, there's not much to differentiate yourself from others. Many resort to extreme measures to stand out or get noticed.
3. Hollywood is full of angry beta males, running things, who are left uncheck because everyone is always fake nice (see no.2) or emotionally worn out or weak (see no 1.) to resist. (Tell me James Bond, or any ROMCOM is not the ultimate beta male fantasy.)
The Math in Nr. 2 does not feel correct
@@adamocollective6092 because they have to give 110% all day, everyday.
vancamp popese you don’t know the first thing about the craft unfortunately :(
@@britmcarther3448 according to my residual checks and resume, I must know something about the craft. If you're the actor, I found with a quick google search, it seems your career is just starting and I wish you the best of luck. When I finally started to break out in acting, I faced a choice where I had to pick between taking care of my family or pursuing my dream. I chose my family. There are many petty perverted people that myself, and many of my more successful acting mentors have encountered, in this industry, and it helped made my decision easier. I will give my life to my art, but I won't sell my soul for it. I wish you the best, and hope you don't have the same encounters as me or my friends.
vancamp popese wow. The fact u searched me up is something else. I wish u the best tho!!
Yes, major problems in childhood that causes them to want to escape into another character because facing reality is painful. They get so "into" their craft and character escapism that they never end up dealing with their issues. Ticking time bomb.
Yeah....The stress of having to work with a bunch of egomaniacs, dealing with production staff who think they understand the art better than you, working in multiple locations with no guarantee of the: weather,, sets, crew, lighting, cast all being perfect, rehearse after knocking off from your day job, staying healthy and in good voice, memorizing all of the: dialogue, blocking, facial expressions, timing, dance moves(if included), having an understanding partner who doesn't automatically think you're sleeping with the female lead and who knows you will be away a lot, making every moment exist as if that is the first and only time you've been in it and....to cap it all off, for stage acting: being able to feel the crowd and bring them into the narrative without them knowing you're doing that or feeling conned. Being able to truly enthrall and entertain a full theatre of paying customers is a tough gig. There are nights you wonder what went wrong and it wasn't anything you, or the other cast, could've done done anything about.
Then...you need to unwind. To let your motor get back to idle and allow the endorphins, serotonin and adrenaline to ebb back to a normal state.
Now...go and get some sleep.
Oh...I forgot the audition process. Brutal!
I know people think ill of the 'Hollywood' types. That stands to reason as they've created that environment for themselves. The machine is relentless and there is a huge dose of self importance. Actors the world over don't associate with that group because it is a world of fakery. All smoke and mirrors and very little substance.
Now. Comedians on the other hand... They're all completely normal folk. Hahahaha!
I'm an actor and I honestly never been bothered by auditions or being rejected. I know these gatekeepers are tainted crazy folk, and I know their choices are so unpredictable that there is really no point in taking it personally. You NEVER find out the real reason you got picked or rejected anyway. (Except when you land on the casting couch cause that is some rock solid evidence). I always tell myself "This happened before, it will happen again, just stick to your craft and stay persistent and the moment you get to display your craft they will all go: Fuck us, we made a mistake!" By the way, for that to not make you look like a delusional asshole you actually have to be a good craftsmen though. Just so you know.
You love to say craft, don't you?
What 'bout wannabe actors? Like that guy who played the electrician on NewsRadio.
Joe "I dated this girl when I first got to L.A." Rogan
Reverse casting couch would mean the actors auditioning would require the casting director to sleep with them
Joe "casting couch" Rogan
Joe’s right... it’s certainly difficult to “act” like you’re happy.
This is the case for most art schools. Whether it's visual art, music or drama, the rejection is real and the criticism is intense. It's a situation that attracts fucked up people.
Joe “ I’m from New Jersey” Rogan.
Philadelphia Bear so is Bruce Springsteen!!
This clip has inspired me to join a local acting school. It seems like a good place to meet people.
My dream was to be a famous singer like Celine Dion but I could not handle the rejections and suffering I had to endure. I gave up and sing for myself now.
We are all kinda crazy tbh
underrated comment
Joe 'insert something something here' Rogan
Sunjune Pellerin Ha ha ha ... awesome! Love it!
Joe “friends with a friend of mine” rogen
Joe "I have friends" Rogaine
Joe is an actor so he should know... 😆
Joe “good to see you” Rogan
#metoobro Why not out the woman, Joe?
...to not get sued
Like when Kevin Spacey sued Anthony Rapp for slander.
Oh, wait...Spacey made a half-assed apology, crawled into an Arizona hole, a dozen other stories followed, and his career is toast.
And it's not as though Rogan is new to outing people who commit egregious acts. Carlos Mencia?
Not his style
Joe rogan taking risks?
Just say its a conspiracy theory
Joe, "actors are mentally unstable and I'm not", Rogan.
I love how the guest makes him sing 😂
This is also the same in the world of music, not all but many aspiring young performers/artists/composers I met at uni didn’t genuinely love music first and foremost, they were insecure and narcissistic and saw it as a potential path to fame and attention - a friend of mine was obsessed with the idea of turning up to Carnegie Hall in a limo wearing a tuxedo greeted by paparazzi
Somebody’s nervous for any reason
Joe rogen: “have you tried hypnotism?”
The whole basis of being an “actor” is bizarre and disturbing. Constantly being out of character, where in your career you get rewarded for how good your personality change is
Wow, Rogan sure can dominate a conversation.
I love how joes voice turns into a 14 year old going through puberty when he's got a guest on he doesn't really feel comfortable with
Joe “She just wanted to 🤪🤪🤪” Rogan
Listen to George Michael's song Star People from 96...basically says the same thing..great song
Joe "baby we were born to run" Rogan
“She was kinda gross” 🤣🤣🤣 I LOVE YOU! So real man. So good!
Joe, actors are mentally versatile bro’. Just like genius can be easily mistaken for madness, so too can the talent of acting be taken for being bonkers... (However like all professions there’s the odd genuine nutter - naturally statistically even across the board.)
Joe has confirmed every actor stereotype I've ever heard...
I just realized this is a conversation with Craig. With Craig! OMG OMG OMG! Frackin' Craig!
The thing to remember about auditions is: they are looking to cast a very specific type for the role. If you are not the type, they pass on your audition. I realize how difficult rejection is but you can’t take it personally and you can’t give up. Perseverance wins the role.
I did an audition for the movie Last Castle many years back and it was weird. They talked about me like I was not in the room for a bit and then after a couple minutes they looked at me and said "you would need to shave your head" I didn't know what to say cause it wasn't a question so I awkwardly stood there for what felt like a long time and then said "would that give me the role?" The lady said "we would need to see you with your head shaved". I told them I could not do that because my normal job was customer facing and my boss would lose her mind (well, more than usual she was always freaking out about something). That was that.
I never had much interest in acting though did some stage stuff to help friends who were playwrights. I'd just went down there because it was filming in my town and they specifically said they were looking for muscular, athletic men to fill small roles as military prisoners. The irony is years later I shaved my head and now keep it that way.
of all the shit that never happened this never happened the most
You belong In this LA scene with that fake ass story for attention 😂
You coulda been famous! Idiot.
Joe "super left wing, super progressive" Rogan
Joe "When will these quotation memes die?" Rogan
Joe "They will never die as long as there's at least someone who finds them annoying" Rogan
progressives idealogy ends up commie regressive
I would say he is independent, and adopts ideas from the left and right.
He's a Libertarian pretty much if you listen to him enough. He has a 'leave us alone' attitude towards Government, he doesn't like war, he talks about government waste, corruption, and the deep states strangle hold on America, mentioning how it's really ran by huge corporations. Joe's a Libertarian which is a Progressive. He's just not a Progressive Socialist.
I always say I'm only gonna grab one pretzel, but my hand seeks to fill the palm.
5:36 "I can't tell youuuuuu" 😂😂
"is it Henrietta Weinstein ?"
Did he? Did he? Im kinda glad about that.
This is true ... however, as an actor myself, one should have a healthy outlet... I’m a martial artist... and yes... actors can’t be “conservative “ and the audition process is hard
Authority and power are two different things. Some people live a lifetime and never understand that.
I feel sympathetic for people like this... They should have read the Velveteen Rabbit as a kid (or even as adult). A quote:
“Real isn’t how you are made,” said the Skin Horse. “It’s a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real.”
“Does it hurt?” asked the Rabbit.
“Sometimes,” said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. “When you are Real you don’t mind being hurt.”
“Does it happen all at once, like being wound up,” he asked
“It doesn’t happen all at once,” said the Skin Horse. “You become. It takes a long time. That’s why it doesn’t happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don’t matter at all, because once you are Real you can’t be ugly, except to people who don’t understand.”
? what??
You know this concept is brilliant.
I thought I wanted to be an actor when I was a kid, and I was a huge class clown and loved to make people laugh. I’m really glad that notion faded over time, it seems wild out there. Wild can be fun hell yeah, but instability is way worse
Joes head super shiny in this video
Politicians as well
Joe you are a member of the screen actors guild.
OK I have a friend who is an acting coach and a professor at a small university in Ohio and we had this discussion once how does an actor create a character without losing themselves in the reality of it and his response was they create their character peripherally and not in front of them.
My response to that is we cannot live peripheral everything that we create is in front of us through feelings and thought.
Meaning what I/eye believe myself to be is what I/eye am.
I don’t mean we just put thought to it . I mean to sew it into our Being.
The best inteview EVER god bless Joe Rogan
"Hey mom....Mom....Hey mom....WHAT?!? Chicken Butt"
Good Springsteen impression yo.