@@JGH1708he says kinobody “isn’t all that jacked” these guys don’t understand most guys don’t wanna look like bodybuilders. The average person thinks a body like kinobody is the pinnacle of fitness and shape. If you want to get as jacked as possible his advice isn’t the best but if you want a movie star body his advice is good. Personally I think guys like kinobody, greg plot, david laid all have the best builds.
I'm half way through, so far this is a great interview/discussion. I'm 49 and have been lifting since I was 18. I've done IF but haven't in a few years. I wasn't a big fan of Greg for a lot of years. Something about his delivery turned me off a bit, however my opinion towards him has changed over the years. He's a smart guy! Very knowledgeable and dedicated. The fitness industry moves quickly, longevity here is respectable. He also doesn't talk nonsense imo. Both of these guys are positive and helpful in an industry filled with con-men. Respect isn't given, it's earned. I've come to truly respect him!
I don’t find 16:8 difficult at all everyday for me. The 24 hours fasts are what kill me. Once I get beyond 18:6 it’s a physical challenge. Big lunch at noon and big dinner at 6 pm is easy and doesn’t take much thought.
@@gregthomas6637 I think it depends on a persons lifestyle. If they are busy enough to push the meals off until later than it will probably remain more sustainable from a mental aspect.
Actually fasting is very easy if you are not doing any fasted workout. For me, I always continue to fast at least 4 hours after my workout before I break my fast.
Greg has the most reasonable approach to fitness. Simple workouts and simple food protocol and that’s why he’s so successful. He simplified a process that 90% of people over complicate
Absolutely. That's why I can't listen to Mike Israetel. 85% weight of your 1 rep max with slow eccentric movements while adhering to multi factorial movement patterns and breathing at an increased rate while pinky's are raised towards the sky will increase muscle protein synthesis by 27%. Have a mix of 27.8g protein and reach that 3g leucine ratio within a 2-4 hour window will maximise gains on average of 12.7%. So what your meaning Mike is. Lift weights and eat food? Thanks
I like how he says "for fat loss". The benefits I have seen in my bloodwork from 16-18 hour fasting are amazing and now it's just part of my lifestyle. There is more to fasting than fat loss.
@@rrai- No he wasn't. He specifically was saying how he used to do 16 hr fasts and now doesn't nor does he recommend this to people. I agree with the other person: I love my 18:6 2MAD routine. Not only have I lost 45 lbs but my lab results have been outstanding.
@@keithzastrow no bro he was talking about the 3-4 day fasts. For fatloss he just recommends sufficient protein and a slight calorie deficit IN WHATEVER WAY U FIND IT MOST ENJOYABLE. Thats his whole approach. People try to overcomplicate things and make up all these rules, hes saying he read about all the benefits fasting has and tried the standard 16:8 but he learned to be flexible with it because its more enjoyable. Hes not saying u should do it exactly like him
I used to be well over 530lbs at my heaviest. Got approval for skin removal surgery last month and have been following your channel for quite sometime. Huge nutrition nerd myself. I'd absolutely love to come on your channel and talk about my journey.
Why not do long term fasting to get rid of excess skin? The body will use the excess skin to get protein from. I would much rather do that than getting a surgery if I was overweight.
1. Doing fasting about 14 year now and I had the same experiences as these guys : Lot of fasting after a long period times just backfire ! 2. He is literally burned out from fitness like everyone who is doing 10+ years and even more ! Nothing magical, when can not using our body forever on the maximum ! What you can learn from this ? No matter where you are now do everything in moderation, because moderation = doing that thing for longer time. And remember : If you are not professional fitness just ONE part of your life, not your whole life is fitness ! Also very good video and very important topic !
I do intermittent fasting I’ve been doing it for over 5 years I had a skinny fat physique Im late 40’s and now ripped The way I’ve done it is, 3 day weight training split Push,legs,pull I do 16:8 on weight training days And 20:4 on cardio and rest days (fat burning) I lean bulk on weight training days up to 300 calories surplus Cardio and rest days I eat on maintenance calories No supplements Eat what grows and walks on the ground and what swims In the sea. Stay strong everyone 💪🏽
16:8 = 16 hours of no eating so eat in a 8 hour window 1 or 2 meals no snacking 20:4 = 20 hours of no eating eat in a 4 hour window same as above The long hours your not eating most of that time you’ll be asleep Make sure to get good quality sleep,
Had been doing keto and longer fasts, but stopped that. Now 2 meals a day with lots of 🐟 canned sardines 🐟 & meat and quality carbs is doing the trick.I also lift 2 days a week, and I feel my best at 48! Planning to start GlyNac and taurine soon. Thanks Thomas, your videos are truly inspiring and love from Turkey 🙂
Greg had changed my mind about fitness industry 7 years ago when i was a fat kid completely lost in lots of information on internet , ever since i have abs .
Just stop eating at 6pm or 8pm the night before. Then you only have to fast till lunch time or so, depending on how many hours you want to do. The thing to remember is that the health benefits of fasting are more important than fat loss for people who are already lean.
Holy shit the boyscout Thomas dropped an F bomb! 😢😢 I've NEVER in the 5 years I've been a sub EVER heard him swear 😅😅😅 Crazzzzzy! Haha I'm so glad Thomas is doing these awesome colabs. This dude Thonas works his FUKIN ass off! He deserves every single ounce of success he has!! Great real no agenda or shill just a nice shoot the shit informative video here👍👏👏
My sweet spot for IF is definitely 14h, anything more than that doesn’t do good to my body. Happy to have finally found this out, as I had forced the machine very counterproductively for far too long!
This is great stuff for well-conditioned folks, but as far as his thoughts on fasting go, they just weren't valuable for anyone who has plenty of fat to tap into. Also, the thoughts about an 8 hour fast being hard were just . . . like, really? I mean, once you're adapted to it, anything under 16 hours doesn't even feel like fasting.
100% agree. Started fasting 18/6 in early 2018. Religiously because it got rid of every symptom of diabetes (gone) so to me it just meant stable blood sugar and no energy lull. Did that 365 days a year for 4 years. No restaurants. No calories for 18hrs. For the last year or two I've realized how to not fast too much on accident from being busy. Like a travel trip causing the fast to go longer like 20 24 hrs that can feel draining obviously 😅 not enough food. But fasting is still my optimal. 18/ 6 allows enough time to eat. And enough time to fast. Personally. It makes me cringe when videos talk about fasting causing weight gain or being bad. It's giving so many people a reason or excuses not to try fasting. Furthering their suffering.
@@SimplyHuman186 I think it can vary quite a bit from individual to individual. But if someone can maintain steady energy/blood sugar level and not be ravenously hungry once they start eating, then awesome.
A lot of people thought greg was a bit cheesy with his promoting and what not but if there's one thing I always respected about greg was that he always preached the same thing for years on end. He stayed true to his way of lifting what he thought people would benefit the most from. He never said one thing then said another. Same message for years.
I love this video so much especially where the two guys I absolutely admire collab. I first started out following Thomas DeLauer and still do to this day and expanded my horizons by also following Greg o’Gallagher. Both of these guys are so knowledgeable in fitness.
It’s really quite simple just skip a breakfast and when your digestion is at it highest at noon have your big meal. There is a spiritual practice where one day a week you don’t intake physical food but instead take in energy through breath work , meditation , Forest bathing etc.
I am 3 weeks on keto, and found that it is rather difficult for me to fast long, it makes me very stressful. Especially after trainings in a fasted state. I need to eat something to relax. I don’t have much cravings, my mood and cognitive performance is great on keto, my sleep improved. But I still can’t bear fasting. I am envy to those who can eat 1-2 meals a day and have long fasts without problems. I need 3-4 meals, maybe 7-8 hours eating window, not talking about long fasts. But I still have a lot of benefits on keto, and hope fasting will be easier with practice. I found keto is ideal for treatment of depression and mental issues. I take magnesium, potassium, salt. A lot of advices are taken from Thomas videos. I am thankful to Thomas, that he is flexible and not zombi in his ideas, like many other nutrition professionals. The kea point is to listen to you body not to do any harm. Maybe by now fasting too much is not good for me, but still keto works perfect, so I will keep it. The situation may change in future.
I have followed Greg for years and he's only 5 years older than me, and to hear him say "This worked for me when I was much younger," hit me in the soul in a way I was not expecting....
For me it's amazing if I stay true to no carbs I can go 1 meal a day no problem. I don't have cravings but I have to be no carbs for at least two weeks the my appetite subsidies. Always enjoy your videos
Greg first got me into nutrition and fitness 5 years ago. I used to enjoy his vlogs a lot. My diet and training to some extend still base on his programs
in my early 40s, i'm actually transitioning to the lower 4-6 rep range, but i'm also not doing as much weight-lifting as before, only 2-days a week, while doing more cardio-related exercises on the remaining days of the week.
I’m 60 i rarely use free weights other than for arms and shoulders. I prefer the cables for all my weight training. If you don’t adapt to what your body’s telling you, you will end up with surgery . So open up your mind. At 60 you are not lifting like you are at 30.
when I met and worked out with Gregg here in NYC he told me he never had to fast at all..its just that he wants 1400 or more calories in his last meal dinner....it really opened my eyes. It works for him and his lifestyle...placing the majority of his cals at night...a total social thing:)
That last thing they talked about is something I'm currently strugling with. Gotta work on having a bit more freedom and not let fitness take over my life. But keeping the physique, not sacrificing it.
If you can't do a long fast or 18:6 is because of this, you are not eating enough, second, you are not eating carbs, third, you are dehydrated, and lastly, you are not doing anything during the day, like procrastinating, and that makes everyone hungry in any meal. Best
Keto works perfectly with IF 18:6 if you´re fat adapted..and i dont buy into this "dont fast every day" thing. Doing it for a couple of weeks and then stoping it then doing it again is perfect
@MigueWell buddy, I think you're being a little too close minded here. If you were 300 lbs and you lost that much weight, good for you, I applaud you, but at the end of the day, you're nowhere near as muscular and shredded as these 2 guys so you can't compare apples with oranges. The CNS (central nervous system) is a lot more sensitive than you think. If you have that much muscle and load your body with a lot of weight lifting and certain physical activities, the CNS takes a toll and needs more replenishment than if you are your size. A diesel engine takes different fuel than a regular gasoline vehicle, right? The same applies for individuals. Every individual has a different threshold with cortisol, how their CNS operates and so on. You can't paint everybody on the same canvas and expect the same results.
A lot of people hate on Greg, never really understood why. He knows this shit, he preaches what’s worked for him, and it’s all legitimate. Good podcast good info.
8:45 Guy says "crazy enough" and then goes in to describing this machine like it's some crazy rare machine, and explains how it works. The machine he's describing is extremely common and it's been in gyms for at least a couple decades. I've been in more American gyms that have that machine than gyms that don't. So it's weird to me how he talks about it like it's some foreign novelty piece of equipment. He must not go to many different gyms.
If you’re a big fatty do 24-48 fast Greg/Thomas are to lean to do that. If you’re over 20% do the longer fast don’t overeat when not fasting. Use the right tool for the right job. When you get lower body fat then shorten the fast.
Totally changed my body with Kinobody in my late 20's, started from 0 with no athletic experience. I'm a very lazy person and it was the only thing that made sense to me, I actually think his marketing undersells it as like some hollywood physique program or whatever, I always thought of it as the smart man's program lol (work smarter not harder). Psychologically reverse pyramid training, not having to meal prep for 6 meals a day, fasting for simplicity, and only hitting 2-3 heavy workouts per week (he also doesn't go that hard on legs), it's just easier to do for the average dude and really does build a nice physique. It's too bad I fell off the last few years after covid while I was working on music and business, but I'm getting back on and I'll build the healthiest body I've ever had in the next couple of years I'm sure.
Exactly my take on things....btw Kino mojo has helped my physique. I'm 47 and looking more jacked than I have in a while with less workouts. Seems less is more sometimes. I use to live in the gym now 3 or 4 times a week for an hour and half is sufficient for building muscle
Greg knows his stuff, simple and effective aesthetic physique can be achieved through his programs. I had to scale back on the progressive overload protocol because I was growing too much on a cut.
1. Shorter fast now. Fast for the first 5 hours of the day instead of fasting for the first 8 hours. The reason is because it takes a lot of willpower to go up to 8 hours and that can mean you overeat in your lunch and dinner to make up for it 2. When you get to 10-15 reps, you hit plateaus faster that’s why it’s better and easier to make strength gains on the 6-9 rep range
Thomas DeLauer! Loving the approach in reaching out to different people in the industry and asking these honest questions and getting honest answers.... when is the Liver King coming back? lol
I'm someone who did a lot of bodybuilding in my early 20's. Food has become a mental prison for me. "When was the last time ate?", "Did I eat enough?", "I should eat!", "I'm going to lose muscle!"... It was like a mental illness when I think of it now. And I had it even in periods when I wouldn't work out. Finding out about Intermittent Fasting was like taking a Red Pill. It was FREEDOM. Not only I didn't have to eat breakfast breakfast or early lunch, I didn't have to eat every 3 hours, but going without any calories actually helped my health and physique. As long as Ioaded up on food in the evening. It was a true liberation. And something very convenient to do. And on top of that when I discovered I.F I was just a few months on a vegan diet (not on it sinde 2019). It was 2 myths debunked at the same time. I didn't have to eat all the time to grow muscle. And I didn't even need to eat animal matter either! If you said it to me 10yrs ago I would laugh in your face and tell you to go F yourself
I was using 5grams of creatine everyday for about 14 days and it destroyed my ability to sleep. It literally acted as a stimulant in my body, worst than caffeine in fact. I'm wondering if anyone else has this experience with creatine and or any idea why it might have interfered with my sleep. This is the opposite of what I hear others report, that creatine actually improves sleep.
Health-wise, isn't it best to break a fast soon after waking? Regardless of how little sugar you have, your blood glucose naturally spikes after sleep, so to keep those spikes lower overall you eat in the mornings and begin fasting in the evening, say, 5+ hours before you sleep. If you fast for 5+ hours after waking, the same fast window will cause more spikes per week
Why count the fast from when you wake up (he keeps saying 8am)? However it’s all dependent on when your last meal was. Was it 6pm? Was it 9pm? Lots of other factors to digest (no pun intended).
I like 3 meals a day with as many snacks as I want in between for about 3 to 4 months followed by a 21 to 28 day water fast. Experimenting with lean and healthy aging.
Kinobody is the dude that I first heard about Intermittent Fasting from. I never really watched his stuff since but I.F has been a useful tool since 2016. I spent almost 3 years doing it every day.
Never have stres from a long fast .Most of the days a 21-22 hour fast being fitter than ever at age 59. Al my days working after that training 4 sometimes 5 days a week. Ik doing this for almost 7 years .and i lost 50 kg with it.
Great video. Interesting to hear about dialing back on long fasts. I'm probably in the 14:10 range nowadays. I'm 68, so I'm slightly amused about them talking about their age. Listen to me now and understand me later, enjoy your youth.
Damn, Greg has actually arrived. He’s a legit fitness expert and is well rounded. He got flack back in the day for his cringe lol but he does indeed know what he’s talking about and has an excellent system. He’s also correct about prioritizing certain muscle groups when going for a certain look.
So if you choose to do fasting and are following the 1st Phorm plan which includes drinking the Megawatt preworkout and then the Postworkout which has about 200 calories in 2 scoops, how would this work? I workout first thing in the morning. Wouldn’t this throw my fasting off because of the calorie intake?
Yes. If you are taking those products you aren't fasting. But if it is working for you, then that's all that needs said? I don't take products. I'm either eating food, or I'm not eating food. And that works for me.
I'm 48 and follow most of what is discussed, but I would love to hear this conversation again in 15 years to see what else they change. "I remember when I used to lift 140#db's"😂
I really like Greg, he very honest and tries to keep things simple. He realistic when it comes to food, I love the idea that he eats chocolate and ice cream. I hate the idea of being so restrictive in your diet.
Doesn’t it take 3 days for the glycogen stored in the liver to be used up ? So to fasten for shorter amounts is useless (well it helps to restrict calories) plus gets in the way of keeping your muscles building optimally ?
I never saw this one coming..been in the greg camp for a while now. He's a lot more knowledgeable than people give him credit
i think he preaches consistency and simplicity, which works very well in the long run.
hes the most knowledgable in the so called "industry" few know what Greg knows
His image turns a lot of people off. I however, have had good results with his programs and he’s clearly knowledgeable.
Renaissance periodization just absolutely ripped him apart.
@@JGH1708he says kinobody “isn’t all that jacked” these guys don’t understand most guys don’t wanna look like bodybuilders. The average person thinks a body like kinobody is the pinnacle of fitness and shape. If you want to get as jacked as possible his advice isn’t the best but if you want a movie star body his advice is good. Personally I think guys like kinobody, greg plot, david laid all have the best builds.
Literally shocked. I thought I would NEVER see these 2 on a sit down collab. Big time KinoBody follower. This is content 🔥
I'm half way through, so far this is a great interview/discussion.
I'm 49 and have been lifting since I was 18. I've done IF but haven't in a few years.
I wasn't a big fan of Greg for a lot of years. Something about his delivery turned me off a bit, however my opinion towards him has changed over the years.
He's a smart guy! Very knowledgeable and dedicated. The fitness industry moves quickly, longevity here is respectable. He also doesn't talk nonsense imo.
Both of these guys are positive and helpful in an industry filled with con-men.
Respect isn't given, it's earned. I've come to truly respect him!
I don’t find 16:8 difficult at all everyday for me. The 24 hours fasts are what kill me. Once I get beyond 18:6 it’s a physical challenge. Big lunch at noon and big dinner at 6 pm is easy and doesn’t take much thought.
Do it for 10 - 15 year and you will find difficult
I don’t purposely fast any more it just happens since I went carnivore I eat when I’m hungry which is 1 maybe 2 meals a day 🥩💪👍🤟
@@gregthomas6637 I think it depends on a persons lifestyle. If they are busy enough to push the meals off until later than it will probably remain more sustainable from a mental aspect.
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Actually fasting is very easy if you are not doing any fasted workout. For me, I always continue to fast at least 4 hours after my workout before I break my fast.
Best advice on fasting is;
The more fat you have to lose, the more benefits you get from a longer fast.
As you get leaner you can shorten your fasts.
Binge eating, and also affects women differently. Long fasts for young women aren't recommended
Greg has the most reasonable approach to fitness. Simple workouts and simple food protocol and that’s why he’s so successful. He simplified a process that 90% of people over complicate
Very true.
Absolutely. That's why I can't listen to Mike Israetel. 85% weight of your 1 rep max with slow eccentric movements while adhering to multi factorial movement patterns and breathing at an increased rate while pinky's are raised towards the sky will increase muscle protein synthesis by 27%. Have a mix of 27.8g protein and reach that 3g leucine ratio within a 2-4 hour window will maximise gains on average of 12.7%. So what your meaning Mike is. Lift weights and eat food? Thanks
LOL. @@LL-hs4jo
That is right. Greg is not aspiring to be a competitive bodybuilder. His goals are different.
I like how he says "for fat loss". The benefits I have seen in my bloodwork from 16-18 hour fasting are amazing and now it's just part of my lifestyle. There is more to fasting than fat loss.
Right and hes saying thats good for fatloss.. hes talking about the 3-4 day fasts, in which u lose muscle
@@rrai- No he wasn't. He specifically was saying how he used to do 16 hr fasts and now doesn't nor does he recommend this to people.
I agree with the other person: I love my 18:6 2MAD routine. Not only have I lost 45 lbs but my lab results have been outstanding.
@@keithzastrow no bro he was talking about the 3-4 day fasts. For fatloss he just recommends sufficient protein and a slight calorie deficit IN WHATEVER WAY U FIND IT MOST ENJOYABLE. Thats his whole approach. People try to overcomplicate things and make up all these rules, hes saying he read about all the benefits fasting has and tried the standard 16:8 but he learned to be flexible with it because its more enjoyable. Hes not saying u should do it exactly like him
@@rrai- Well I JUST watched that video and I did not at all perceive what you are saying.
@@keithzastrow ok bro watch it again and tell me
I love how these interviews can show the progression in the thinking of a lifter. It will be interesting to see how his training changes when he’s 45
Follow the money, he and the rest of the keto boys will be there.
I’m 60 reality the great teacher 😂
Glad to see Greg getting more respect and recognition. He deserves it. His knowledge and programs are underrated in the fitness community.
Not really
@@fre403 …feel better?
I used to be well over 530lbs at my heaviest. Got approval for skin removal surgery last month and have been following your channel for quite sometime. Huge nutrition nerd myself. I'd absolutely love to come on your channel and talk about my journey.
Is the surgery covered by health insurance ?
@ribeiro143 some of it, yes. Arms, are not. Getting lipo and tummy tuck also
That’s awesome dude goodjob
Why not do long term fasting to get rid of excess skin? The body will use the excess skin to get protein from. I would much rather do that than getting a surgery if I was overweight.
@@aos32 it isn't as simple or black and white as that. I lost and regained a lot over the years.
1. Doing fasting about 14 year now and I had the same experiences as these guys : Lot of fasting after a long period times just backfire !
2. He is literally burned out from fitness like everyone who is doing 10+ years and even more ! Nothing magical, when can not using our body forever on the maximum !
What you can learn from this ?
No matter where you are now do everything in moderation, because moderation = doing that thing for longer time.
And remember : If you are not professional fitness just ONE part of your life, not your whole life is fitness !
Also very good video and very important topic !
Fantastic collab with KinoBody Thomas!! Love the content
I do intermittent fasting
I’ve been doing it for over 5 years
I had a skinny fat physique
Im late 40’s and now ripped
The way I’ve done it is,
3 day weight training split
Push,legs,pull
I do 16:8 on weight training days
And 20:4 on cardio and rest days (fat burning)
I lean bulk on weight training days up to 300 calories surplus
Cardio and rest days I eat on maintenance calories
No supplements
Eat what grows and walks on the ground and what swims In the sea.
Stay strong everyone 💪🏽
Dumb question but what does 16:8 and 20:4 mean?
16:8 = 16 hours of no eating so eat in a 8 hour window 1 or 2 meals no snacking
20:4 = 20 hours of no eating eat in a 4 hour window same as above
The long hours your not eating most of that time you’ll be asleep
Make sure to get good quality sleep,
A great collaboration video,
I have leant a lot over the years watching and listening to Thomas and Greg
Thanks guys
I’m feeling good & looking good
@@ricovalentino1759 Thank you sir.
My pleasure and let us know how your progress goes if you try this
My favorite honest youtube bodybuilder. Greg deserves much respect!
Had been doing keto and longer fasts, but stopped that. Now 2 meals a day with lots of 🐟 canned sardines 🐟 & meat and quality carbs is doing the trick.I also lift 2 days a week, and I feel my best at 48! Planning to start GlyNac and taurine soon. Thanks Thomas, your videos are truly inspiring and love from Turkey 🙂
Greg had changed my mind about fitness industry 7 years ago when i was a fat kid completely lost in lots of information on internet , ever since i have abs .
Just stop eating at 6pm or 8pm the night before. Then you only have to fast till lunch time or so, depending on how many hours you want to do. The thing to remember is that the health benefits of fasting are more important than fat loss for people who are already lean.
yes. stopping at 8pm is simple and so effective for me
Greg the type of guy to sit down with Thomas DeLauer for an interview about fasting.
9 years later and still hilarious to me
Holy shit the boyscout Thomas dropped an F bomb! 😢😢
I've NEVER in the 5 years I've been a sub EVER heard him swear 😅😅😅
Crazzzzzy!
Haha I'm so glad Thomas is doing these awesome colabs. This dude Thonas works his FUKIN ass off! He deserves every single ounce of success he has!!
Great real no agenda or shill just a nice shoot the shit informative video here👍👏👏
Greg the type of guy to do a collab with Thomas DeLauer, great to see. 😍😍💪💪
Have seen him forever. Nice to see someone sustaining who's real and doesn't over complicate.
My sweet spot for IF is definitely 14h, anything more than that doesn’t do good to my body. Happy to have finally found this out, as I had forced the machine very counterproductively for far too long!
This is great stuff for well-conditioned folks, but as far as his thoughts on fasting go, they just weren't valuable for anyone who has plenty of fat to tap into. Also, the thoughts about an 8 hour fast being hard were just . . . like, really? I mean, once you're adapted to it, anything under 16 hours doesn't even feel like fasting.
He meant 8 hours from the time he woke up. So, no food until 4PM if he woke up at 8 AM.
100% agree. Started fasting 18/6 in early 2018. Religiously because it got rid of every symptom of diabetes (gone) so to me it just meant stable blood sugar and no energy lull. Did that 365 days a year for 4 years. No restaurants. No calories for 18hrs. For the last year or two I've realized how to not fast too much on accident from being busy. Like a travel trip causing the fast to go longer like 20 24 hrs that can feel draining obviously 😅 not enough food. But fasting is still my optimal. 18/ 6 allows enough time to eat. And enough time to fast. Personally. It makes me cringe when videos talk about fasting causing weight gain or being bad. It's giving so many people a reason or excuses not to try fasting. Furthering their suffering.
@@SimplyHuman186 I think it can vary quite a bit from individual to individual. But if someone can maintain steady energy/blood sugar level and not be ravenously hungry once they start eating, then awesome.
A lot of people thought greg was a bit cheesy with his promoting and what not but if there's one thing I always respected about greg was that he always preached the same thing for years on end. He stayed true to his way of lifting what he thought people would benefit the most from. He never said one thing then said another. Same message for years.
I love this video so much especially where the two guys I absolutely admire collab. I first started out following Thomas DeLauer and still do to this day and expanded my horizons by also following Greg o’Gallagher. Both of these guys are so knowledgeable in fitness.
As someone who has watched Kinobody for last couple of years, it's nice and awesome to see how he has grown and matured over time.
It’s really quite simple just skip a breakfast and when your digestion is at it highest at noon have your big meal. There is a spiritual practice where one day a week you don’t intake physical food but instead take in energy through breath work , meditation , Forest bathing etc.
Greg’s programs have changed my life. Love seeing him on here.
Their training routines evolve over time. Good. This way things do not get stale.
I am 3 weeks on keto, and found that it is rather difficult for me to fast long, it makes me very stressful. Especially after trainings in a fasted state. I need to eat something to relax. I don’t have much cravings, my mood and cognitive performance is great on keto, my sleep improved. But I still can’t bear fasting. I am envy to those who can eat 1-2 meals a day and have long fasts without problems. I need 3-4 meals, maybe 7-8 hours eating window, not talking about long fasts. But I still have a lot of benefits on keto, and hope fasting will be easier with practice. I found keto is ideal for treatment of depression and mental issues. I take magnesium, potassium, salt. A lot of advices are taken from Thomas videos. I am thankful to Thomas, that he is flexible and not zombi in his ideas, like many other nutrition professionals. The kea point is to listen to you body not to do any harm. Maybe by now fasting too much is not good for me, but still keto works perfect, so I will keep it. The situation may change in future.
One of the OG fitness youtuber greg i thought he was retired, cool to see he still staying healthy.
I have followed Greg for years and he's only 5 years older than me, and to hear him say "This worked for me when I was much younger," hit me in the soul in a way I was not expecting....
Thomas can we have Jeff Cavaliere next
Greg: ...."like I used to do, when I was much younger."
57yo me: "hahahahahahahhhaahhahahahhahhhahahha." 😀
Life is meant to be lived in cycles, not ruts.
Loving the guests you’ve been having on lately!
Are we just going to pretend Thomas isnt wearing a taco bell shirt? I love it! 😂
For me it's amazing if I stay true to no carbs I can go 1 meal a day no problem. I don't have cravings but I have to be no carbs for at least two weeks the my appetite subsidies. Always enjoy your videos
Greg first got me into nutrition and fitness 5 years ago. I used to enjoy his vlogs a lot. My diet and training to some extend still base on his programs
Wish this video was longer good one for sure
in my early 40s, i'm actually transitioning to the lower 4-6 rep range, but i'm also not doing as much weight-lifting as before, only 2-days a week, while doing more cardio-related exercises on the remaining days of the week.
I’m 60 i rarely use free weights other than for arms and shoulders. I prefer the cables for all my weight training. If you don’t adapt to what your body’s telling you, you will end up with surgery . So open up your mind. At 60 you are not lifting like you are at 30.
when I met and worked out with Gregg here in NYC he told me he never had to fast at all..its just that he wants 1400 or more calories in his last meal dinner....it really opened my eyes. It works for him and his lifestyle...placing the majority of his cals at night...a total social thing:)
That last thing they talked about is something I'm currently strugling with. Gotta work on having a bit more freedom and not let fitness take over my life. But keeping the physique, not sacrificing it.
Greg is why I started fasting 10 years ago before RUclips popularity
Greg is the kinda guy who collabs with Thomas Delauer, wearing a sleeveless shirt.
The collab we never even knew we wanted!
If you can't do a long fast or 18:6 is because of this, you are not eating enough, second, you are not eating carbs, third, you are dehydrated, and lastly, you are not doing anything during the day, like procrastinating, and that makes everyone hungry in any meal. Best
Exactly. If you have all this, it's a matter of psychology
I personally do lower carb but still agree with the rest and glad others see this too.
Keto works perfectly with IF 18:6 if you´re fat adapted..and i dont buy into this "dont fast every day" thing. Doing it for a couple of weeks and then stoping it then doing it again is perfect
@MigueWell buddy, I think you're being a little too close minded here. If you were 300 lbs and you lost that much weight, good for you, I applaud you, but at the end of the day, you're nowhere near as muscular and shredded as these 2 guys so you can't compare apples with oranges. The CNS (central nervous system) is a lot more sensitive than you think. If you have that much muscle and load your body with a lot of weight lifting and certain physical activities, the CNS takes a toll and needs more replenishment than if you are your size. A diesel engine takes different fuel than a regular gasoline vehicle, right? The same applies for individuals. Every individual has a different threshold with cortisol, how their CNS operates and so on. You can't paint everybody on the same canvas and expect the same results.
A lot of people hate on Greg, never really understood why. He knows this shit, he preaches what’s worked for him, and it’s all legitimate. Good podcast good info.
8:45 Guy says "crazy enough" and then goes in to describing this machine like it's some crazy rare machine, and explains how it works. The machine he's describing is extremely common and it's been in gyms for at least a couple decades. I've been in more American gyms that have that machine than gyms that don't. So it's weird to me how he talks about it like it's some foreign novelty piece of equipment. He must not go to many different gyms.
If you’re a big fatty do 24-48 fast Greg/Thomas are to lean to do that. If you’re over 20% do the longer fast don’t overeat when not fasting. Use the right tool for the right job. When you get lower body fat then shorten the fast.
Totally changed my body with Kinobody in my late 20's, started from 0 with no athletic experience. I'm a very lazy person and it was the only thing that made sense to me, I actually think his marketing undersells it as like some hollywood physique program or whatever, I always thought of it as the smart man's program lol (work smarter not harder). Psychologically reverse pyramid training, not having to meal prep for 6 meals a day, fasting for simplicity, and only hitting 2-3 heavy workouts per week (he also doesn't go that hard on legs), it's just easier to do for the average dude and really does build a nice physique. It's too bad I fell off the last few years after covid while I was working on music and business, but I'm getting back on and I'll build the healthiest body I've ever had in the next couple of years I'm sure.
Exactly my take on things....btw Kino mojo has helped my physique. I'm 47 and looking more jacked than I have in a while with less workouts. Seems less is more sometimes. I use to live in the gym now 3 or 4 times a week for an hour and half is sufficient for building muscle
Fun! Fun is key! Love this!
Great collab bravo
Greg knows his stuff, simple and effective aesthetic physique can be achieved through his programs. I had to scale back on the progressive overload protocol because I was growing too much on a cut.
1. Shorter fast now. Fast for the first 5 hours of the day instead of fasting for the first 8 hours. The reason is because it takes a lot of willpower to go up to 8 hours and that can mean you overeat in your lunch and dinner to make up for it
2. When you get to 10-15 reps, you hit plateaus faster that’s why it’s better and easier to make strength gains on the 6-9 rep range
Greg is pro carbohydrates and knows the prometabolic approach. His Road to Ripped podcast with Christopher Walker was good times.
Thomas DeLauer! Loving the approach in reaching out to different people in the industry and asking these honest questions and getting honest answers.... when is the Liver King coming back? lol
Big fan of Greg and his programs as well!
Great video guys,you two got me on my journey which has helped immensely so big thank you gents 🥩💪👍🤟
Love this collab! 🔥
Greg the type of guy to get featured on a respected YT channel.
I'm someone who did a lot of bodybuilding in my early 20's. Food has become a mental prison for me. "When was the last time ate?", "Did I eat enough?", "I should eat!", "I'm going to lose muscle!"... It was like a mental illness when I think of it now. And I had it even in periods when I wouldn't work out.
Finding out about Intermittent Fasting was like taking a Red Pill. It was FREEDOM.
Not only I didn't have to eat breakfast breakfast or early lunch, I didn't have to eat every 3 hours, but going without any calories actually helped my health and physique. As long as Ioaded up on food in the evening. It was a true liberation. And something very convenient to do.
And on top of that when I discovered I.F I was just a few months on a vegan diet (not on it sinde 2019).
It was 2 myths debunked at the same time. I didn't have to eat all the time to grow muscle. And I didn't even need to eat animal matter either!
If you said it to me 10yrs ago I would laugh in your face and tell you to go F yourself
Sooo happy to see this. Great spot !!
I was using 5grams of creatine everyday for about 14 days and it destroyed my ability to sleep. It literally acted as a stimulant in my body, worst than caffeine in fact. I'm wondering if anyone else has this experience with creatine and or any idea why it might have interfered with my sleep. This is the opposite of what I hear others report, that creatine actually improves sleep.
Too late! Y’all got me hooked on fasting at least 16 hrs. It works for me lol
Greg, the type of guy w……. Ah I can’t do it , I love the guy 😊
Love Greg, he actually is a natural.
Isn’t a 5 hour fast like the normal interval between meals for most people?
5 hours AFTER waking. He mentions fasting for 14 hours.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Oh i see. Wasn’t paying enough attention
Health-wise, isn't it best to break a fast soon after waking? Regardless of how little sugar you have, your blood glucose naturally spikes after sleep, so to keep those spikes lower overall you eat in the mornings and begin fasting in the evening, say, 5+ hours before you sleep.
If you fast for 5+ hours after waking, the same fast window will cause more spikes per week
Picking the heavier free weights up off the floor into postision for the lift is how many juries happen.
Gr8 information Gr8 interview
Why count the fast from when you wake up (he keeps saying 8am)? However it’s all dependent on when your last meal was. Was it 6pm? Was it 9pm? Lots of other factors to digest (no pun intended).
Love both these guys!
I like 3 meals a day with as many snacks as I want in between for about 3 to 4 months followed by a 21 to 28 day water fast. Experimenting with lean and healthy aging.
Greg got my goals accomplished
Very cool conversation.
Maachines are nice for home gym. The safety while not needing a spotter is great
Kinobody is the dude that I first heard about Intermittent Fasting from.
I never really watched his stuff since but I.F has been a useful tool since 2016. I spent almost 3 years doing it every day.
A Taco Bell t Thomas? 😂 nice
Taco Hell
Never have stres from a long fast .Most of the days a 21-22 hour fast being fitter than ever at age 59. Al my days working after that training 4 sometimes 5 days a week. Ik doing this for almost 7 years .and i lost 50 kg with it.
Great video. Interesting to hear about dialing back on long fasts. I'm probably in the 14:10 range nowadays. I'm 68, so I'm slightly amused about them talking about their age. Listen to me now and understand me later, enjoy your youth.
Damn, Greg has actually arrived. He’s a legit fitness expert and is well rounded. He got flack back in the day for his cringe lol but he does indeed know what he’s talking about and has an excellent system. He’s also correct about prioritizing certain muscle groups when going for a certain look.
There is no way Taco Bell is the sponsor of his show. Their ingredients are TERRIBLE. There is no arguing this.
thomas please do a video on Sacromyces boulardi
I love kinobody
Dammnn my two most watched content creators collab hahah
Love this ❤
Great video! i love kinobody! in my opinion has the best physique.
lol okay what’s up does he really have a partnership with Taco Bell? 😂 common Thomas! Tú quieres taco bell?
Kinobody spreading the word. 💪🔥😤
greg the type of guy to randomly do videos with thomas delauer
“Alpha” Greg rarely looking Thomas in the eye.
So if you choose to do fasting and are following the 1st Phorm plan which includes drinking the Megawatt preworkout and then the Postworkout which has about 200 calories in 2 scoops, how would this work? I workout first thing in the morning. Wouldn’t this throw my fasting off because of the calorie intake?
Yes. If you are taking those products you aren't fasting.
But if it is working for you, then that's all that needs said?
I don't take products. I'm either eating food, or I'm not eating food. And that works for me.
I'm 48 and follow most of what is discussed, but I would love to hear this conversation again in 15 years to see what else they change.
"I remember when I used to lift 140#db's"😂
So he does 16/8 fast only 3 days a week or more days?
I really like Greg, he very honest and tries to keep things simple. He realistic when it comes to food, I love the idea that he eats chocolate and ice cream. I hate the idea of being so restrictive in your diet.
Doesn’t it take 3 days for the glycogen stored in the liver to be used up ? So to fasten for shorter amounts is useless (well it helps to restrict calories) plus gets in the way of keeping your muscles building optimally ?
I think it would go more from amount of glycogen. Less carbs the better
if im 50 pounds over weight and I stop eating for a week and lift weights will i lose Muscle?