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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2022
  • How strong are ice screws? Plenty strong enough, but the question is more about how strong is the ice. We did 9 tests in this video and found the aluminum hangers on the Petzl Laser Speed breaks at 14kN, long 21cm screws are stronger than a carabiner, and of course that screws in tension hold better than when placed in shear, like so many tests in the past have confirmed. See our write up and spread sheet on our blog - www.hownot2.com/post/ice-scre....
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    Sweet montage
    00:28 Glacier Ice
    01:17 Test setup
    03:56 Test #1
    05:24 Test #2
    06:51 Test #3
    07:59 Test #4
    10:02 Test #5
    12:21 Test #6
    13:58 Test #7
    14:52 Test #8
    17:05 Test #9
    18:00 Data Results
    19:02 Bonus Footage

Комментарии • 88

  • @benja_mint
    @benja_mint Год назад +69

    I would love to see this tested on ice that's just barely thick enough. E.g. 10cm sheet against rock... Or worse... 10cm thick but with air or flowing water behind it

    • @matze8019
      @matze8019 Год назад +8

      Like the standard ice climbing conditions where i live XD

    • @Davidadventures
      @Davidadventures Год назад +1

      The leader never falls. 🤷‍♂️

    • @benja_mint
      @benja_mint Год назад +5

      @@Davidadventures yeah but eventually you have to build an anchor to belay off of... Or bail off of

    • @sam.n.sansalone
      @sam.n.sansalone Год назад

      Does anyone know the brand and model of the “22 kN sling… known for its abrasion resistance” technology, described at 16:43?

    • @nathanwilson3185
      @nathanwilson3185 Год назад +1

      As a normal climber y’all are crazy and crazy sick

  • @chrishaynes6064
    @chrishaynes6064 Год назад +19

    Dude I have been waiting for this video ever since the little teaser!!!! Great job getting it out with ALL the other projects you have going on.

  • @macmurfy2jka
    @macmurfy2jka Год назад +6

    Love that you’re testing ice pro! Thanks!

  • @lleberghappy
    @lleberghappy Год назад

    Nice! And thank you for the bonus closing thoughts with the crew. Not leaving us hanging.

  • @HowNOT2
    @HowNOT2  Год назад +4

    V threads episode is out! ruclips.net/video/SprVh_W_-S8/видео.html Graphs and charts - www.hownot2.com/post/ice-screw-break-tests-in-iceland
    Check out our new store! hownot2.store/

  • @jasonbell6670
    @jasonbell6670 Год назад

    I have been waiting for this exact video for a long ass time. thank you so much for everything Ryan

  • @buckmanriver
    @buckmanriver Год назад +1

    This was a really well-done edit! Great job all around!

  • @hjeffcoat42
    @hjeffcoat42 Год назад +1

    Great stuff as always!

  • @adriansalas3951
    @adriansalas3951 Год назад

    Gees that last shot right at the end soooo beautiful. I envy and admire your work!

  • @ItsAiyla
    @ItsAiyla Год назад

    This is wonderful. So stoked about the v thread vid too!!

  • @intosiberiaadventures1217
    @intosiberiaadventures1217 Год назад +8

    What about testing Abalakov thread?

    • @JosephTMyers
      @JosephTMyers Год назад +1

      so much stronger---more boring for RUclips views and income, so they probably deliberately left it out--when they are assembled correctly, abalokov's rarely if ever fail in solid ice.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +4

      Comes out in about 4 weeks

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +9

      I make about $50 per video in income so I just try to make the content the most people will enjoy since that doesn't even pay a fraction of the bills. We did do a V thread video and it's coming out soon

    • @JosephTMyers
      @JosephTMyers Год назад

      @@HowNOT2 I'm impressed! Looking forward to seeing it! You seem to be doing what you love and loving what you do, so hopefully the bills are par for the course.

  • @simonsteinberger2935
    @simonsteinberger2935 Год назад

    Wonderful! Would like to see even more tests in ice 😀

  • @MeshiMeshi-vu2hs
    @MeshiMeshi-vu2hs Год назад

    Thank you so much for this video. Its great content.

  • @wildliveunit292
    @wildliveunit292 Год назад

    thanks for this effort !!! so cool.

  • @fire_n_ice1984
    @fire_n_ice1984 Год назад +1

    I live a hour away from a glacier. It's so awesome to be able to go ice climbing any time of the year.

  • @stephanmantler
    @stephanmantler Год назад

    That was such a blast!!

  • @amateurmountainradio
    @amateurmountainradio Год назад +7

    It would be interesting to compare the failure method of LONG aluminum vs steel vs titanium screws. e.g. would aluminum bend/break the tube before the hanger, etc. Results might be different in hard vs soft ice. Would also be interesting to see different length pickets tested in packed snow (your most likely top anchor for crevasse rescue)

  • @noahkreyenhagen8937
    @noahkreyenhagen8937 Год назад

    The video I was waiting for!!!

  • @ClimbingEasy
    @ClimbingEasy Год назад +2

    Duuuuuuude, that shot at the end is fire!

  • @ACXB24
    @ACXB24 Год назад +4

    Thank you for testing ice!! I've been waiting for this forever cause I feel comfortable with my rock gear but have always wondered how strong my ice screws really are. Testing v-threads would also be great to see and Ouray, Colorado is supposed to have the best waterfall ice there is hint hint!🤞😅

  • @samsara592000
    @samsara592000 Год назад +1

    Very good videos, (this and the V thread one). I would have liked to see the grivel screws tested. They blow out differently.

  • @andrewslootweg8268
    @andrewslootweg8268 Год назад +3

    Hey HowNOT2!!!
    I’m hoping you can share the drill bit you used in this video??
    I have a cave with a wall of ice I’m trying to get through and this would help our efforts significantly!!
    There was an ice dig done a long time ago so we know there is stuff back there but it’s been plugged again since the late 80’s! I want to check it out again!

  • @Bidouillechurch
    @Bidouillechurch Год назад +1

    Niiiiiice breaking ice stuff test ! You have to test some ice axes now !!!

  • @hetistijmen
    @hetistijmen Год назад

    That last shot is so sick.

  • @patc9102
    @patc9102 Год назад

    I took a fall on a 10cm screw clipped to a screamer. My feet were at the screw when I fell and it only popped one of the tacks on the screamer. Really cool you did this. Thanks

    • @Govanification
      @Govanification 7 месяцев назад

      How often do you use screamers on your screws / how many do you carry? Just the stubbies / in shitty ice? Do you ever use them on the first screw off the belay for multipitch?

  • @declanbrooks9215
    @declanbrooks9215 Год назад +1

    I would love to see a prucell prusic loop with only 1 bunny ear clipped in. Love the videos thx for all you do

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  Год назад +1

      Interesting idea. I did prucells that I'm editing. I am curious if i pulled only one eye though

  • @benja_mint
    @benja_mint Год назад

    I'm so glad about the new phrase I learnt today "snow poop" from the screws :D

  • @user-mc9jb5mb1r
    @user-mc9jb5mb1r 5 месяцев назад

    Hey, Can you guys do break test on ice tool picks and handles?

  • @juliuspreston2505
    @juliuspreston2505 Год назад

    So, i am starting to test my own splices on my LS3 but i dont want to break the screen, and some of the larger arborist ropes break at some pretty high numbers. What carabiner do you use for your "fuse" to protect your LS3?

  • @jeremiasandrade5123
    @jeremiasandrade5123 Год назад

    I would love to see a break test of V-thread and naked V-thread anchors!

  • @brianacree8810
    @brianacree8810 Год назад

    Nice editing on this one

  • @tracersedge
    @tracersedge Год назад

    That outro, wow!

  • @LeCharles07
    @LeCharles07 Год назад

    "... in case the threads melt out..." Jesus, that's a scary thought I'd never had before.

  • @nedmacallen
    @nedmacallen Год назад +1

    16:17 hahaha

  • @jakejacobson2999
    @jakejacobson2999 Год назад

    Thanks for teaching me it’s a terrible idea to ever climb ice 😂😂

  • @ajacobs223
    @ajacobs223 Год назад

    finally! now get up to Lee Vining and do some waterfall ice

  • @akaTheDevil
    @akaTheDevil Год назад

    Wish you had live bluetooth data on that gauge that you can graph with time stamps.

  • @lukeaurand5722
    @lukeaurand5722 Год назад

    I wolf love to see how screws preform i different quality ice. I think all ice climbers would want to

  • @Fabianwew
    @Fabianwew Год назад

    Please test some fresh/bad/early/late ice next

  • @petemuggli8852
    @petemuggli8852 Год назад

    Cool

  • @dominiclehmann6889
    @dominiclehmann6889 Год назад

    Why do some ice screws have two eyelets? Is it to be able to choose how much leverage you want depending on the direction of force?

    • @MrFritz
      @MrFritz Год назад

      No, it's just more space for attachements like carabiners.

  • @ShurikB93
    @ShurikB93 Год назад

    Seeing the Icelanders pulling while sitting gives a strong viking vibe

  • @alexatspace
    @alexatspace 10 месяцев назад

    Thin ice probably delaminates easier form the wall when compared tp other ice..?

  • @String.Epsilon
    @String.Epsilon Год назад +3

    Always like your videos. Small feedback for the next one: On my devices, the music in this video is uncomfortably loud when I have the speech of you guys on the quiet end of understandable.
    So I have to constantly adjust the volume every time you fade between music and speech.

    • @CJski
      @CJski Год назад

      Lol and what feel good 90s high school coming of age movie soundtrack did he get the music from?

  • @alifeoncechris
    @alifeoncechris Год назад

    This was fascinating

  • @Devoted96
    @Devoted96 Год назад

    As an Alpinist... THANK YOU

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic Год назад

    Seems to me that BD or Petzl needs to make a long screw (21cm ?) with a heavy loop (like a mallion width) and have a nylon sewn in loop hook in point.

    • @pentachronic
      @pentachronic Год назад

      Basically like the end of a Cam.

  • @gavin2391
    @gavin2391 Год назад

    Man I hope we can save these glaciers so I can whip on them😅

  • @johnanderson1254
    @johnanderson1254 Год назад

    So what I hear is 22cm ice screw and a clove hitch for backup if your hanger is aluminum lol

  • @svenmccalljr.4268
    @svenmccalljr.4268 5 месяцев назад

    10-15º has been tested to be best when WI climbing and protecting but in the other direction you started to test in the beginning. Essentially, you want to **avoid** shear on the barrel and instead leave the threads to hold as much as they can before shear acts on the barrel. So this is why you place ice screws 10-15º in a positive angle and not negative (so the the hanger should be lower than the tip of the screw). As far as I understand it all - which could be wrong haha. The BD aluminum vs steel ice screw video talks about this nicely (ruclips.net/video/j1kD0atLO4s/видео.html)

  • @terrydavis8451
    @terrydavis8451 Год назад +2

    The Icelandic chick with the blue helmet is fine af.

  • @andrewhunter6536
    @andrewhunter6536 Год назад

    Ryan has a new jacket?

  • @jamesknowles4740
    @jamesknowles4740 Год назад

    I thought the ice was in Greenland and the green was in Iceland

  • @jordanhess2061
    @jordanhess2061 Год назад

    Money shot 16:18

  • @BlueScreenOfDeathPL
    @BlueScreenOfDeathPL Год назад

    Go in a couple of metric units 😂 Ah ISO.

  • @nelsonianb1289
    @nelsonianb1289 Год назад

    Ice screws tested on de-laminated water ice, and ice with water flowing behind.

  • @MisterFixit69
    @MisterFixit69 Год назад

    thats some amazing slomo of the ice breaking

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 Год назад

    This makes me wonder what kind if ice climbers these 2 are. I started ice climbing almost 50yrs ago and you never clipped a screw in the ring unless it was flush against the ice
    You would sling it just like a pin that bottomed out. I would hav thought tou would have to have chopped out crude ice. But I've never been on a glacier like that.

  • @matiascamprubi-soms7719
    @matiascamprubi-soms7719 Год назад

    These guys are silly. I hope to see some of you out there in the world one day.

  • @--RSL--
    @--RSL-- Год назад

    You don't need 10 ppl trying to pull a bolt out... Just use a tie down ratchet...

  • @ralphmunn1685
    @ralphmunn1685 9 месяцев назад

    Bro, glacial ice is FAR weaker than vertical water ice. Who thought this would be good ice, or even in any way comparable to what we in the States call climbable ice??? As a rule of thumb, glacial ice is considered "50% ice." It's just NOT as dense or strong as true water ice!

  • @RwP223
    @RwP223 Год назад

    Structured water

  • @luwkseam
    @luwkseam Месяц назад

    OOOOOO, man! I am binge watching your vids and I am SOOO glad you've abandoned this kind of "corporate fun-and-excitement force-inducing" music.

  • @bar10dr
    @bar10dr Год назад +1

    The worlds glaciers are melting, in 100 years this might not be an option anymore :( Love the video though!

    • @BRENDANTHERED
      @BRENDANTHERED Год назад

      In 100 years the earth could be covered in new glaciers again.

  • @michanowak8579
    @michanowak8579 Год назад

    second

  • @poetac15
    @poetac15 Год назад

    First