I used to feel overwhelmed by the amount of instructional drumming videos but I'm proud to say I'm not anymore. You are one of my trusted "go to" channels. Thanks for your time.
Hey, man, good news. My wife's church buds have started to let her down the last couple weeks, so I think I've talked her into letting me upgrade. I'm going to give her my KZ ES4s which sound pretty dang nice, but you've got me curious about these ZS10 Pros, so I think I'm gonna give them a go. Dude, budget or not, all the KZs I've had have been fantastic. I used to have a pair of $400 Westones, and pound for pound, these are just as good. This is coming from a church drummer who's been using in-ears for 28 years now. I'm sold for life on these KZs.
I have the 10 driver version, and i freaking love them. Bought some Shure triple flange ear tips too, so the fit is nice. I'll have to upgrade the cable at some point like you said.
@@josefreitasjunior5380 Any of the KZ's will work just great with Electronic kit (same as any in ears) - For me I try to avoid cranking the volume when practicing on an ekit , so I use Shure's in combination with some ear defender (shooting range style) headphones over the top. The low profile of the Shure's allows for ear defenders to sit comfortably over the top. The KZ's jut out a little from the ear and create some pressure when putting ear defenders over the top. I was told bone conduction makes the isolation worse doing this but I've found I've got better isolation with this method both on acoustic and electric setups. (Great for mic placement+tuning if you are working on your own) This method stops the acoustic plastic tapping sound of the cymbal pads being audible at low listening volumes. Please note: I am in the minority with this and most users love using in ears as they are with no additional headphones over the top. The headphones over the top looks a little goofy (unless you can rock the look!...) I can't, so for gigs I'll reach for customs/universals with admittedly louder monitoring levels... Hope this helps
I had used Shure se215 and they failed after one year use, so I start to use the KS ZS10 Pro.... and I noted a stupid absurdity difference. I also don’t know what they did with it but I 110% agree with you bro! They freaking nailed! Specially for drummers. I use an extension cable because I also have problems with the length of it, but it is not a big deal. I definitely recommend it! 😃👍
Same for singers and Guitarists. KZ ZS10 Pro are the best budget IEMs on the market use sponge buds the isolation is great. A few people use DIY moulded ear plugs used for shooting and to make custom moulds. There is a how to video on RUclips if you search.
this comment helped me so much. to their credit i used se215s for ten years before they died and wasnt sure but if you are saying they are way better i will give them a try
Been using KZ ZSN. Ever since I used it to my gigs and practices. It helped my ears to be safe from noise, I can get the tone of the drums. Some hidden ghost notes in the songs particularly even the background synths or backing tracks used in the song you can hear it so clearly and crisp. great video by The way ROB! :D Might look out for an upgrade soon. (they say the 8 core wire upgrade helps improve the sounds ever a lot more.) Jcally wires to be specific.
Nice job Rob! I just went with the Zed S 10 on the Amazon link you provided and even got $5 off. They arrived 48 hours later and I’m so happy with them. Popped right in using the stock nylon pads and perfecto. Yes the cord tangles easily but I can deal with it since these earbuds stay in place in my drum room. Super appreciative for this awesome and helpful video. Stewart Copeland says “Hey hey”
Found out about KZ on a blog for budget headphones back around 2017/18… back then I grabbed the ZST’s, & for the price, with added 3rd party quality foam tips, nothing that I’ve tried can touch the performance for price value! Great to see another drummer realizing the value in the KZ phones. Thanks for all the great content Rob!
I bought a pair of the ZST’s based solely on your review. The sound is perfect for what I need them for how I gig, and you hit it right on the head about fit and price. I did improve the fit and isolation by adding some Sugru to make a custom mold of my ear. This, combined with the smallest rubber plug (like you, I have little real estate), it made them 100%. I’ll look into the Pro’s as I would like better balance overall when I’m not using a mixer (like for practice). Thanks for this great overall shootout review. Seems I’ll be getting another set (and a third piece of Beatdown merch) before the holiday.🤘🏻🤘🏻
jhawkdrums: Make two small snakes from one package. Coil it around the earplug and insert into your ear. Press the Sugru into the folds and crevices around your canal until it feels right and the outside sound is mostly gone. Wear them for about 20 minutes, then carefully take out. Hang them up so the plugs are free from touching anything. Let it set overnight and by morning, you’ll have custom molded in-ears!
Got the KZ ZS10 Pro a couple days ago. Aliexpress had a sale and I was able to score them for $25. One thing that people don't seem to understand and a drummer from another mother (Wade from Dankpods) said it best, good headphones will always be good headphones! The S10's sound great and so do the ZSN Pro X. It's funny to me that the general public buys a lot of name-brand earbuds all the while a world of far better sound for far less money is right there for them, but just like me (up until a year or so ago) are completely oblivious to it.
Glad I viewed your video last year regarding in-ear monitors. Thought I could never afford it. However, the KZs ZS10 PROs are incredible for the buck no doubt. During my practice I use a high end headphones which is okay. But I did notice I would have to crank up the volume on the brain to my Roland edrums to get a decent sound. But just recently I finally chance paying $50. bucks for a KZ in-ear monitor and I was totally blown away! Being I was using my regular headphones with the volume near max, I had to turn it down because the KZs picked up everything with so much clarity! So there was no need having the Roland module volume set so loud. So from a volume level of 19 it came down to 8 still having pure clarity with the highs and the lows. With highs, mids and bottoms I could hear my ghost notes very well along with everything else - bass drum, toms, cymbals and snare. I can now concentrate on all the details of my playing making my practice worth the time and improvements. Yep, I would have to agree with you that you the one on in-ear monitor research. Saved a ton and something I really needed. Thanks!
Love this review, Rob! After watching your previous reviews, I ended up buying the ZS10 Pros, along with the TRN V80s ; ) I also purchased the same braided cable you use on the ZS10’s I like that cable a lot, so I wanted to ask your recommendation on another upgrade cable. I appreciate all of your content and recommendations, man. Keep it up! I’ll also be buying one of your hoodies and tee shirts 👍🏼😎 Happy Holidays, Rob
If you don't mind me asking, how did these two compare? I just ordered the ZSX and it was a tough choice between these two. Some are saying it's a similar sound signature to the ZS10 p but slightly more refined.
Bought 2 sets, a higher priced one around $60 and a lower priced one around $40 when Rob first reviewed these maybe 18months ago. Even the lower priced one is good, but the other is awesome. I use em every day on my laptop and YT videos sound amazing!!!
I bought the KZ ZS10s because of Rob's recommendation. They are cheap and "ok for that price". Its bulky, after a while the ear tips wear off, so it will start to slip out. I've used for about a year, definitely dont recommend it for heavy duty, everyday use. I recently bought the MEE Audio Pro6, and it sounds so much more clearer than ZS10s. It is an upgrade from the ZS10 Pro. I would definitely cough up more money for them. The Pro6 fits in the ear nicely and isn't bulky. My mate bought a Tin Audio T2 and the sound quality just blows my mind away. If there are any IEMs you are considering to get, besides the KZs, it would be these 2. But this video is about budget IEMs.
A piece of info for upgrading the cable that I only just learned for myself, the connection is not just a standard 2-pin cable, a standard 2 pin will fit yes, but the connection you want for the upgrade cable is "QDC" thats the one that will be sheilded and fit your KZ in ears properly, great video though!
@@PeterVred USA or Canada? all I did was search "qdc in ear monitor cable" and a whole bunch of options came right up, maybe try that instead, key words and search engines are a funny thing.
Always dig your stuff, Rob. So...does your vid take into account drummers who SING? (yeah, I'm a Phil Collins/Don Henley/Levon Helm wanna be). Getting a good overall monitor is one thing, but hearing your vox is another. Maybe that's just a mix thing from the board. Thoughts?
I just got my ZS10 pros in the mail today with upgraded cable! So pumped to use them for my churches carols services this weekend. Ever since your first KZ review videos I've been the biggest fanboy ever! Still love me my TRN V80s though. For the price point I reckon they haaaard to beat haha
@@RobBeatdownBrown There's something you said about ear canals... and I have the same problem but I thought I had a big canal and that the ear tips wouldn't seal correctly... maybe what I need are smaller tips... I'm gonna try that! Thanks for your videos, and Greetings from Cancun, MX.
Thanks man. I’m looking definitely look for good quality sound and budget, now I’m in USA and I rebuilding my setup to keep drumming. Hopefully I’ve got a chance.
I’ve been watching all of your videos and today was spent researching the KZ earbuds specifically the S10 Pros. I want to pick up a pair, cost is not an issue but I currently use Shure SE425 so I want to make sure that the S10 Pros are not only better but louder. I like my Shures but they are not loud enough
Just got a pair of the KZ ZS10 pros in purple - going to upgrade the cable in the new year just for the sake of it. but Holy Cow, these are awesome. The sound quality is clear as hell, the bass is there, mids are even, & the treble cuts through. Thanks Rob Beatdown for the recommendation - definitely worth every dollar. Never had this good a sound quality in ears, these beat out shures 215s (which to me, sounded too muffled, less defined)
@@RobBeatdownBrown I wonder if everyone in the band is listening to that click? When I use a click and no one else does, it never works. Evidently they aren't listening to me.
If you coil the plastic wire cable tidy round the pair of ear phone cables so that it can be used the vary the split length then all the tangling issues disappear.
Hey Rob. Still digging your content. Awesome buddy. Wowza. Off the back of your recomendation for the KZ ZS10 pro I have just bought a pair along with an upgraded cable. As you quite rightly said, utterly fantastic. I really don't know how they can do them for the money. Thank goodness they do. I am totally knocked out already and I haven't properly burned them in yet. £65 for the IEM's and the upgraded cable. Brilliant. On the downside I really wish I had known about them before I got my Shure SE 315's last year. £140 and the KZ's smash them into the ground. Well the ZS10 pro's are my #1 now. The Shure's will find their way into the back of a drawer.
Hey Rob, I’m in the market for a pair and consider buying the KZ ZS10 Pro on your recommendation. Question: there are versions with microphone / line-control. Do you recommend with or without mic?
You convinced me, my friend. I'm going to get the ZS10 pro... I mean, I never thought of using in ears for my edrums. My current headsets are starting to sound like crap. :(
As a singing drummer, high-quality IEMs are extremely critical to my performance. Although I’m pretty happy with my Westones, whenever someone I trust has already done the research on another product I’m not familiar with, I pay attention. Perhaps you’d consider a similar product comparison episode for drummers like me who use their own personal sound mixers. Thanks for all of your high quality content. I love your channel.
as someone who has used westones UM50 pros in a live setting and the KZ zs10 pro the KZ blow them out of the water, its worth dropping the 50 bucks just for a gamble I promise, at the very least you get a back up set.
Thanks so much for this vid on in ears Rob! I was just looking around for some but don't know didley squat about in ears! Thanks a bunch! GROOVE RESPONSIBLY !😆🤘🏽🇨🇱♥️🥁🥁
great insight Rob..i have zsn and zs10pro myself i love them..but i also have some single DD that sound just as good as zs10pros..you might wanna check them out, the tfz no.3 that cost around 100$ and my personal favorite, the blon bl03 that cost just around 25-30$ yet they sound so amazing! in the end it's not about the driver count but on the way an iem was tuned.
Hi Rob, I think its time that you switched over to moulded in ears, I did this about 7 years ago, 3 drivers in each, 1 low, 1 mid, 1 high , oh man they are amazing and because they are moulded to my ears they always feel great. I used Alien Ears which are in the states. You wont use anything else once you switch to moulded in ears.
MrTopdrummer I have a custom pair of Ultimate Ears UE7s that I use on recording sessions and “expensive” jobs. But for church every weekend, I like these KZs
I have the ZS-10 Pros and the AS10's. I prefer the AS10's for their more neutral sound, especially when drumming. The boomy bass and bright highs of the ZS-10 Pro's are too fatiguing for me when I turn them up. I also think the AS-10's are a bit more comfortable with their 5mm ear tip vs the 6mm ear tip of the ZS-10 Pro. I guess I have tiny ear canals that still get sore after almost 9 months of using the ZS-10's. So my ZS-10 Pros are for every day listening to music at normal volume levels and the AS-10's are for slightly louder volume listening and drumming. They just are more comfortable in this scenario. Isolation is good on the AS10 as well.
Hi Rob. Which KZ's are best for adding back some ambient sound on stage? I love my KZT's but they isolate too much. As a singing drummer, only my vocals are in my mix so I don't push too hard and wear out my vocal chords. The gear my band uses doesn't allow me to add other instruments or backing vocals into my mix. So I need to hear some ambient sounds on stage. Thanks in advance!
I like my se535s. The sound is great and the quality will last. I wish these other companies could make a clear version for people that don't really want all the colours. I probably try them then. Be interesting to see how these cheap ones hold up in a few months or a year.
Rob, do you have any suggestions for electronic kits? Ive had good times with the Shure in ear, noisecanceling buds for shows and such, but Im looking for something for my Rolands.
Rob, dude!!!!! I bought an entry pair of KZ ZST Dynamic Hybrid Dual Drive ears. OMFG, my dude. These are KILLER ears. The most comfortable, best sounding earbuds that I can't even call earbuds. When I'm gonna upgrade, I will take the next step up. They gotta sound better. Can you or anyone reading this advise where to get the upgraded cables? Thanks all
Hey I want to say I'm a huge fan of the channel and please continue what you are doing. I'm an old drummer that struggle with the single paradiddle but I have moved on to the triple paradiddle and I am smoking it but I was wondering how would you apply it to the kit. If you have any helpers it would be greatly appreciated.
Cameron Hairston A large part of the fun with learning a new sticking is experimentation. You’ve got accents and ghost notes. Just separate the hands and start moving them around the kit.
I bought the 10s a day ago after you did a review on them, didn't realize the vid was 2 years old, I'm glad they stood the test of time though after watching this vid. Oh, they will be my first set of in ear .
I ve tried the zs10 pro and they are not for me. I ve replaced these iem by the zsx. The zsx are so good. I can hear all the specter : low, mid and high notes. The ratio price quality is incredible
ok so ,, ive been drumming now for just over a year. I am playing a gig with a band in two days ,,we met , jammed twice and they gave me four weeks to get down 33 songs as we are the only band playing. as you can see i may be a bit ,, concerned hahaha ,, so my question is ,, are in ears A bluetooth , and B what exactly do you use them for ? for listening to songs while you practice or for drumsets that are mic'd ? sorry to be ignorant about the usage but if they are something i could use to help me get through a set,, or three in this case at a gig that would be great . i use ' ear buds ' from walmart to practice with but the blue tooth set i have produce a delay while i watch your lessons and try to follow along so i revert to the wired ones which get in the way constantly . proud patreon of your channel and when i come back to my hometown of t dot to open my new tattoo shop next year , ill be coming to a show of yours if i can . thank you for all of your great videos Beatdown i dig em all !
So, in ear monitors to my knowledge can be bluetooth, but theres no way to use them as bluetooth in a live gig setting, what you want to use In ears for is exactly what the name suggests, monitoring, so instead of using a floor wedge like you would normally see as part of a sound system, you can buy a small mixer, I suggest the behringer xynyx 802, that way you can unplug that floor wedge, and plug it into the mixer, and from there plug your in ear monitors into the headphone jack of your mixer, this in alot of situations will just allow you to hear a more direct mix of all the other instruments on stage, as far as your gig, i've been playing in cover bands for a long time and can tell you, the only thing thats going to get you through that gig is knowing the material, get back behind your kit and drill the songs, play through all 33 songs every day/chance you get, don't repeat songs, just play through the entire list start to finish and keep doing it, when the gig comes your muscle memory will kick in and things will become familiar.
Dan Killen can’t thank you enough that actually answered my main question and you got it Dan I’ve been doing just that for the last week and a half , I was all over the map not practising my set list in order and this has already changed practise sessions with the band . Thank you again !
@@fujitattooz5127 I hear you man, I've been trying to figure out this crazy in ear monitor business myself for about a year now, its worth getting set up but damn its alot of work and research, shoot me a message on youtube if you ever have anymore questions and i'll do my best to answer
hi rob..Im buying these for my drummer...would these work good for( me)lead guitar? and my bass player? how would they connect to the mixer?..wireless?
Wish I knew this a year ago Rob!!!!!! I payed 600 for my Westones!!!!! Like the way you say your Zees ......, Zed. Love your channel man!!!!! Merry Christmas.......if you're ever around Victoria we gotta hang out.
Marcus Amyotte. I paid a pretty penny for my Westone’s also. Have you used the ones Rob is talking about? If so how do they sound compared to the Westone’s?
You are 100 percent correct, ZS10 pro are really good. I have been trying to upgrade with IEM's that are sometimes 10x the price and I always feel robbed after testing them. I"m still searching for something that will be better than the zs10 pro and its hard, last pair i tried was IE300 from sennheiser and i sent them back after 15 minute of use. I'm in the process of testing the KZ ZAX, but so far not super impressive other than the sound stage. Might try CCA CA16 next.
What is the upgraded cable you are using? I love my KZ ZSN Pros ( I wonder how different the ZS10 pros are?)....but the cable drives me crazy. I would love an upgraded cable with wire that allows me to shape it around my ear. Mine fall off.
I used to feel overwhelmed by the amount of instructional drumming videos but I'm proud to say I'm not anymore. You are one of my trusted "go to" channels. Thanks for your time.
I am using ZS10 Pro since January 2020, it's my first IEM, after using this, no other KZ's don't stand out against it. Thanks Bro... for this review
Hey man . How are you ?
I wanted your opinion about kz zs10 pro . How was your experience with that ?
I been using those brand since your first revue and I've turned on alot of singers and players to this brand as well
Hey, man, good news. My wife's church buds have started to let her down the last couple weeks, so I think I've talked her into letting me upgrade. I'm going to give her my KZ ES4s which sound pretty dang nice, but you've got me curious about these ZS10 Pros, so I think I'm gonna give them a go. Dude, budget or not, all the KZs I've had have been fantastic. I used to have a pair of $400 Westones, and pound for pound, these are just as good. This is coming from a church drummer who's been using in-ears for 28 years now. I'm sold for life on these KZs.
Nah I am not here because I need earphones, I am here because I need my dose of Rob
I have the 10 driver version, and i freaking love them. Bought some Shure triple flange ear tips too, so the fit is nice. I'll have to upgrade the cable at some point like you said.
How does it's works whith eletronic drum kit ?
@@josefreitasjunior5380 Any of the KZ's will work just great with Electronic kit (same as any in ears) - For me I try to avoid cranking the volume when practicing on an ekit , so I use Shure's in combination with some ear defender (shooting range style) headphones over the top. The low profile of the Shure's allows for ear defenders to sit comfortably over the top. The KZ's jut out a little from the ear and create some pressure when putting ear defenders over the top. I was told bone conduction makes the isolation worse doing this but I've found I've got better isolation with this method both on acoustic and electric setups. (Great for mic placement+tuning if you are working on your own) This method stops the acoustic plastic tapping sound of the cymbal pads being audible at low listening volumes. Please note: I am in the minority with this and most users love using in ears as they are with no additional headphones over the top. The headphones over the top looks a little goofy (unless you can rock the look!...) I can't, so for gigs I'll reach for customs/universals with admittedly louder monitoring levels... Hope this helps
Finally ! Someone who goes straight to the point, No BS and not trying hard.
I had used Shure se215 and they failed after one year use, so I start to use the KS ZS10 Pro.... and I noted a stupid absurdity difference. I also don’t know what they did with it but I 110% agree with you bro! They freaking nailed! Specially for drummers.
I use an extension cable because I also have problems with the length of it, but it is not a big deal.
I definitely recommend it! 😃👍
Same for singers and Guitarists. KZ ZS10 Pro are the best budget IEMs on the market use sponge buds the isolation is great. A few people use DIY moulded ear plugs used for shooting and to make custom moulds. There is a how to video on RUclips if you search.
this comment helped me so much. to their credit i used se215s for ten years before they died and wasnt sure but if you are saying they are way better i will give them a try
Been using KZ ZSN.
Ever since I used it to my gigs and practices. It helped my ears to be safe from noise, I can get the tone of the drums.
Some hidden ghost notes in the songs particularly even the background synths or backing tracks used in the song you can hear it so clearly and crisp. great video by The way ROB! :D
Might look out for an upgrade soon.
(they say the 8 core wire upgrade helps improve the sounds ever a lot more.) Jcally wires to be specific.
N3V2 - Nevto I found the same thing, I can hear my drums perfectly through these, they’re just quieter.
good upgrade option sir..there maybe an improvement on the volume as what i've noticed..and it doesnt tangle a lot as well.
Nice job Rob! I just went with the Zed S 10 on the Amazon link you provided and even got $5 off. They arrived 48 hours later and I’m so happy with them. Popped right in using the stock nylon pads and perfecto. Yes the cord tangles easily but I can deal with it since these earbuds stay in place in my drum room. Super appreciative for this awesome and helpful video. Stewart Copeland says “Hey hey”
Just got a set of Stagg audio 435's 4 drivers, and just $69. Love 'em
So you're THE guy then ? Amazing video. 👌 Are KZ ZS10 Pros still the best pick, 2 years later though? Thank you. Jave a Wonderful weekend.
Found out about KZ on a blog for budget headphones back around 2017/18… back then I grabbed the ZST’s, & for the price, with added 3rd party quality foam tips, nothing that I’ve tried can touch the performance for price value! Great to see another drummer realizing the value in the KZ phones. Thanks for all the great content Rob!
I bought a pair of the ZST’s based solely on your review. The sound is perfect for what I need them for how I gig, and you hit it right on the head about fit and price.
I did improve the fit and isolation by adding some Sugru to make a custom mold of my ear. This, combined with the smallest rubber plug (like you, I have little real estate), it made them 100%.
I’ll look into the Pro’s as I would like better balance overall when I’m not using a mixer (like for practice).
Thanks for this great overall shootout review. Seems I’ll be getting another set (and a third piece of Beatdown merch) before the holiday.🤘🏻🤘🏻
Ross Gillis Thanks, man. Much appreciated 🙂🤘🏽
Sugru to make a custom mold of your ear? I'm familiar with Sugru, but I've never heard of doing that. Can you explain the process?
jhawkdrums: Make two small snakes from one package. Coil it around the earplug and insert into your ear.
Press the Sugru into the folds and crevices around your canal until it feels right and the outside sound is mostly gone.
Wear them for about 20 minutes, then carefully take out. Hang them up so the plugs are free from touching anything. Let it set overnight and by morning, you’ll have custom molded in-ears!
Hi Ross, what DB would you guess they isolate without the Sugru customizing?
Got the KZ ZS10 Pro a couple days ago. Aliexpress had a sale and I was able to score them for $25. One thing that people don't seem to understand and a drummer from another mother (Wade from Dankpods) said it best, good headphones will always be good headphones! The S10's sound great and so do the ZSN Pro X. It's funny to me that the general public buys a lot of name-brand earbuds all the while a world of far better sound for far less money is right there for them, but just like me (up until a year or so ago) are completely oblivious to it.
Glad I viewed your video last year regarding in-ear monitors. Thought I could never afford it. However, the KZs ZS10 PROs are incredible for the buck no doubt. During my practice I use a high end headphones which is okay. But I did notice I would have to crank up the volume on the brain to my Roland edrums to get a decent sound. But just recently I finally chance paying $50. bucks for a KZ in-ear monitor and I was totally blown away! Being I was using my regular headphones with the volume near max, I had to turn it down because the KZs picked up everything with so much clarity! So there was no need having the Roland module volume set so loud. So from a volume level of 19 it came down to 8 still having pure clarity with the highs and the lows. With highs, mids and bottoms I could hear my ghost notes very well along with everything else - bass drum, toms, cymbals and snare. I can now concentrate on all the details of my playing making my practice worth the time and improvements. Yep, I would have to agree with you that you the one on in-ear monitor research. Saved a ton and something I really needed. Thanks!
Hey Rob. Great video. Which silicone tips do you have on the ZS10Pro?
Love my Shure SE215 in ears. Super comfy and great sound. Also, can you provide a link to that replacement cable? Thanks Rob!
Love this review, Rob!
After watching your previous reviews, I ended up buying the ZS10 Pros, along with the TRN V80s ; )
I also purchased the same braided cable you use on the ZS10’s
I like that cable a lot, so I wanted to ask your recommendation on another upgrade cable.
I appreciate all of your content and recommendations, man. Keep it up!
I’ll also be buying one of your hoodies and tee shirts 👍🏼😎
Happy Holidays, Rob
Which one was the best purchase??
have ZS10 Pro’s, awesome pair on in-ears, it’s real bang for the buck. just ordered ZSX’s, looking forward to compare those two.
If you don't mind me asking, how did these two compare? I just ordered the ZSX and it was a tough choice between these two. Some are saying it's a similar sound signature to the ZS10 p but slightly more refined.
I don't use in-ears, i just clicked to support.
Great Videos Rob!
What specific cable would you recommend for KZ ZS10 Pro IEM ...Please
I ordered these on your recommendation... you were nailed it....
Bought 2 sets, a higher priced one around $60 and a lower priced one around $40 when Rob first reviewed these maybe 18months ago. Even the lower priced one is good, but the other is awesome. I use em every day on my laptop and YT videos sound amazing!!!
I bought the ZS10 pro, super set!!! Thanks for the tip.
I bought the KZ ZS10s because of Rob's recommendation. They are cheap and "ok for that price". Its bulky, after a while the ear tips wear off, so it will start to slip out. I've used for about a year, definitely dont recommend it for heavy duty, everyday use. I recently bought the MEE Audio Pro6, and it sounds so much more clearer than ZS10s. It is an upgrade from the ZS10 Pro. I would definitely cough up more money for them. The Pro6 fits in the ear nicely and isn't bulky. My mate bought a Tin Audio T2 and the sound quality just blows my mind away. If there are any IEMs you are considering to get, besides the KZs, it would be these 2. But this video is about budget IEMs.
@7 6 my Mee Audio Pro6 is better than the T2s. I will check out the BLON 03
Thanks for the video, greetings from Argentina. Which one protects the ears better? I already have serious tinnitus
would love to know which cable upgrade you would recommend !!!!!
What is the name of the upgraded cable he uses? I live in the UK and cant seem to find it.
Loved this video!
A piece of info for upgrading the cable that I only just learned for myself, the connection is not just a standard 2-pin cable, a standard 2 pin will fit yes, but the connection you want for the upgrade cable is "QDC" thats the one that will be sheilded and fit your KZ in ears properly, great video though!
I looked all over Amazon for "QDC cable for KZ" , got nothing.
@@PeterVred USA or Canada? all I did was search "qdc in ear monitor cable" and a whole bunch of options came right up, maybe try that instead, key words and search engines are a funny thing.
@@PeterVred sorry I lied, all I searched was "QDC cable" should turn up plenty of results and even some of the cables you can switch to be qdc
Always dig your stuff, Rob. So...does your vid take into account drummers who SING? (yeah, I'm a Phil Collins/Don Henley/Levon Helm wanna be). Getting a good overall monitor is one thing, but hearing your vox is another. Maybe that's just a mix thing from the board. Thoughts?
So like am I good to wearing these while I practice acoustic drums?
Great video and info.
Q: wish one do you think it'll be better for a singer? thanks.
I just got my ZS10 pros in the mail today with upgraded cable! So pumped to use them for my churches carols services this weekend. Ever since your first KZ review videos I've been the biggest fanboy ever!
Still love me my TRN V80s though. For the price point I reckon they haaaard to beat haha
ELsplitterz I miss my V80s. Hooked up a friend with mine a while back. Definitely getting another pair. But these ZS10 Pros are a straight up champ
Rob Brown which ones should I get Rob? V80s or the zs10s, I’m using the shures and the left is crapping out
What upgrade cord did you use?!
@@silverburst3112 Just the Silver plated ones from the KZ store on Aliexpress mate. Cheap as but is super quality
Hey Rob- What kind of receiver and transmitter would you recommend I buy to go with these KZ’s?
Helpful and to the goddamn point. Great video, thanks brotha
Ordered those ks zs10’s
I use the KZ ZST... very happy with my purchase!!
They still hold up 👌🏾
@@RobBeatdownBrown There's something you said about ear canals... and I have the same problem but I thought I had a big canal and that the ear tips wouldn't seal correctly... maybe what I need are smaller tips... I'm gonna try that! Thanks for your videos, and Greetings from Cancun, MX.
Thanks man. I’m looking definitely look for good quality sound and budget, now I’m in USA and I rebuilding my setup to keep drumming. Hopefully I’ve got a chance.
G’day Rob. What’s the link for the cable? I just ordered the ZS 10.
Where are you getting your cables? Is the only difference between mic and no mic the cable?
I’ve been watching all of your videos and today was spent researching the KZ earbuds specifically the S10 Pros. I want to pick up a pair, cost is not an issue but I currently use Shure SE425 so I want to make sure that the S10 Pros are not only better but louder. I like my Shures but they are not loud enough
Just got a pair of the KZ ZS10 pros in purple - going to upgrade the cable in the new year just for the sake of it. but Holy Cow, these are awesome. The sound quality is clear as hell, the bass is there, mids are even, & the treble cuts through. Thanks Rob Beatdown for the recommendation - definitely worth every dollar. Never had this good a sound quality in ears, these beat out shures 215s (which to me, sounded too muffled, less defined)
Rob hope you can help me here, are any of those better than the Simgot En700pro? I'm about to buy them but can't decide.
A super review as always. I love my zs10 pros!!!
Hi Rob, does that better cable fit/work with the ZSN Pro? I like your drumchannel and your drumming very much. Greetings from Germany, Gus
Hi Rob, an off-topic question: do you use a metronome during a live gig, in front of an audience?
Often enough, yea. And almost always at church
@@RobBeatdownBrown I wonder if everyone in the band is listening to that click? When I use a click and no one else does, it never works. Evidently they aren't listening to me.
Peter Vred I’ve had similar issues when others don’t hear the click. You have to make sure they don’t make you lose the click.
i been playing using the CCA CA16. i would recomend you to tey them.
I got the ZS10 Pros and updated cord you suggested. Made a huge difference on my ability to play. Put on some Glide from Pleasure all was good.
Do you still recommend the 10 pros, I’m willing to spend more, any newer recommendations being this is a year old?
If you coil the plastic wire cable tidy round the pair of ear phone cables so that it can be used the vary the split length then all the tangling issues disappear.
Hey Rob. Still digging your content. Awesome buddy. Wowza. Off the back of your recomendation for the KZ ZS10 pro I have just bought a pair along with an upgraded cable. As you quite rightly said, utterly fantastic. I really don't know how they can do them for the money. Thank goodness they do. I am totally knocked out already and I haven't properly burned them in yet. £65 for the IEM's and the upgraded cable. Brilliant. On the downside I really wish I had known about them before I got my Shure SE 315's last year. £140 and the KZ's smash them into the ground. Well the ZS10 pro's are my #1 now. The Shure's will find their way into the back of a drawer.
Hey Rob, I’m in the market for a pair and consider buying the KZ ZS10 Pro on your recommendation. Question: there are versions with microphone / line-control. Do you recommend with or without mic?
You convinced me, my friend. I'm going to get the ZS10 pro... I mean, I never thought of using in ears for my edrums. My current headsets are starting to sound like crap. :(
As a singing drummer, high-quality IEMs are extremely critical to my performance. Although I’m pretty happy with my Westones, whenever someone I trust has already done the research on another product I’m not familiar with, I pay attention. Perhaps you’d consider a similar product comparison episode for drummers like me who use their own personal sound mixers. Thanks for all of your high quality content. I love your channel.
as someone who has used westones UM50 pros in a live setting and the KZ zs10 pro the KZ blow them out of the water, its worth dropping the 50 bucks just for a gamble I promise, at the very least you get a back up set.
Awesome and very informative video! Just got my ZS10 Pros, only problem is that left one falls out with every ear tips.. any solution??
Thanks so much for this vid on in ears Rob! I was just looking around for some but don't know didley squat about in ears! Thanks a bunch! GROOVE RESPONSIBLY !😆🤘🏽🇨🇱♥️🥁🥁
Hi Iv’e been watching your videos for a while and this was an excellent video and well explained. keep up the good work.
Great review Rob .. Thank you
If price wasn’t an issue would you pic the Kz AS16 over the Kz Zs10 pro??
Nah. The 10s are more comfortable
@@RobBeatdownBrown Appreciate the reply
Than You
great insight Rob..i have zsn and zs10pro myself i love them..but i also have some single DD that sound just as good as zs10pros..you might wanna check them out, the tfz no.3 that cost around 100$ and my personal favorite, the blon bl03 that cost just around 25-30$ yet they sound so amazing! in the end it's not about the driver count but on the way an iem was tuned.
You mentioned you replaced your headphone cable with a better one. Do you have a link for that? I’d like to buy a different cable too
Hey Rob how about an update on kz iems??
Thanks for the review!! I’ve been in the market for in ears and will definitely give them a ride.
Do these actually protect your hearing?
Hey Rob, do you know if the cables for this EIM come in different sizes? For instance my situation mine will require a minimum of 10 ft.
Hi Rob, I think its time that you switched over to moulded in ears, I did this about 7 years ago, 3 drivers in each, 1 low, 1 mid, 1 high , oh man they are amazing and because they are moulded to my ears they always feel great. I used Alien Ears which are in the states. You wont use anything else once you switch to moulded in ears.
MrTopdrummer I have a custom pair of Ultimate Ears UE7s that I use on recording sessions and “expensive” jobs. But for church every weekend, I like these KZs
I have the ZS-10 Pros and the AS10's. I prefer the AS10's for their more neutral sound, especially when drumming. The boomy bass and bright highs of the ZS-10 Pro's are too fatiguing for me when I turn them up. I also think the AS-10's are a bit more comfortable with their 5mm ear tip vs the 6mm ear tip of the ZS-10 Pro. I guess I have tiny ear canals that still get sore after almost 9 months of using the ZS-10's. So my ZS-10 Pros are for every day listening to music at normal volume levels and the AS-10's are for slightly louder volume listening and drumming. They just are more comfortable in this scenario. Isolation is good on the AS10 as well.
Hi Rob. Which KZ's are best for adding back some ambient sound on stage? I love my KZT's but they isolate too much. As a singing drummer, only my vocals are in my mix so I don't push too hard and wear out my vocal chords. The gear my band uses doesn't allow me to add other instruments or backing vocals into my mix. So I need to hear some ambient sounds on stage. Thanks in advance!
Do you use the aventone drum mics ? I been watching your videos and you don’t use them . If they don’t work , I’m not about to buy them lol.
Really great content bro.Good topic helped a lot.thanks
I like my se535s. The sound is great and the quality will last. I wish these other companies could make a clear version for people that don't really want all the colours. I probably try them then. Be interesting to see how these cheap ones hold up in a few months or a year.
Try the QKZ VK1
Rob, do you have any suggestions for electronic kits? Ive had good times with the Shure in ear, noisecanceling buds for shows and such, but Im looking for something for my Rolands.
I don't use (cannot use due to hearing problems) in-ears, either. I always like to have a visit from you.
hi, tnx for video, any thoughts about Shure SE215
Pionneer's SE CH9T are really good for the Money.
Rob, dude!!!!! I bought an entry pair of KZ ZST Dynamic Hybrid Dual Drive ears. OMFG, my dude. These are KILLER ears. The most comfortable, best sounding earbuds that I can't even call earbuds. When I'm gonna upgrade, I will take the next step up. They gotta sound better.
Can you or anyone reading this advise where to get the upgraded cables?
Thanks all
😎👍 Rob, my new hoodie was just delivered, very cool , have a great weekend!!
NOICE 👊🏽💥
Thanks for the in-depth review.
is the KZ ZSN PRO X pair better than the KZ ZSN PRO for drumming
Thanks, buying zs10 pro today.
Please forgive my ignorance. Do these block out much of the background noise, say if you're trying to practice to a click in a loud room? Many thanks.
Hey I want to say I'm a huge fan of the channel and please continue what you are doing. I'm an old drummer that struggle with the single paradiddle but I have moved on to the triple paradiddle and I am smoking it but I was wondering how would you apply it to the kit. If you have any helpers it would be greatly appreciated.
Cameron Hairston A large part of the fun with learning a new sticking is experimentation. You’ve got accents and ghost notes. Just separate the hands and start moving them around the kit.
Thanks a TON Rob....super helpful!
I bought the 10s a day ago after you did a review on them, didn't realize the vid was 2 years old, I'm glad they stood the test of time though after watching this vid. Oh, they will be my first set of in ear .
Yo the zs10 pro now cost 27 dollars and even come with 4 extra pairs of foam tips. Is that a steal - yes or yes?
Okay, I'm buying some ZS10 Pros. Your fault if I don't like them. LOL!
I ve tried the zs10 pro and they are not for me. I ve replaced these iem by the zsx. The zsx are so good. I can hear all the specter : low, mid and high notes. The ratio price quality is incredible
ok so ,, ive been drumming now for just over a year. I am playing a gig with a band in two days ,,we met , jammed twice and they gave me four weeks to get down 33 songs as we are the only band playing. as you can see i may be a bit ,, concerned hahaha ,, so my question is ,, are in ears A bluetooth , and B what exactly do you use them for ? for listening to songs while you practice or for drumsets that are mic'd ? sorry to be ignorant about the usage but if they are something i could use to help me get through a set,, or three in this case at a gig that would be great . i use ' ear buds ' from walmart to practice with but the blue tooth set i have produce a delay while i watch your lessons and try to follow along so i revert to the wired ones which get in the way constantly . proud patreon of your channel and when i come back to my hometown of t dot to open my new tattoo shop next year , ill be coming to a show of yours if i can . thank you for all of your great videos Beatdown i dig em all !
So, in ear monitors to my knowledge can be bluetooth, but theres no way to use them as bluetooth in a live gig setting, what you want to use In ears for is exactly what the name suggests, monitoring, so instead of using a floor wedge like you would normally see as part of a sound system, you can buy a small mixer, I suggest the behringer xynyx 802, that way you can unplug that floor wedge, and plug it into the mixer, and from there plug your in ear monitors into the headphone jack of your mixer, this in alot of situations will just allow you to hear a more direct mix of all the other instruments on stage, as far as your gig, i've been playing in cover bands for a long time and can tell you, the only thing thats going to get you through that gig is knowing the material, get back behind your kit and drill the songs, play through all 33 songs every day/chance you get, don't repeat songs, just play through the entire list start to finish and keep doing it, when the gig comes your muscle memory will kick in and things will become familiar.
Dan Killen can’t thank you enough that actually answered my main question and you got it Dan I’ve been doing just that for the last week and a half , I was all over the map not practising my set list in order and this has already changed practise sessions with the band . Thank you again !
@@fujitattooz5127 I hear you man, I've been trying to figure out this crazy in ear monitor business myself for about a year now, its worth getting set up but damn its alot of work and research, shoot me a message on youtube if you ever have anymore questions and i'll do my best to answer
Dan Killen thanks a bunch man I checked out your videos and subscribed totally dig bowsers basement ! :)
hi rob..Im buying these for my drummer...would these work good for( me)lead guitar? and my bass player? how would they connect to the mixer?..wireless?
Thanks Bro I’m going to get the kz zs 10 pro 🙌🏻
Just today I thought I'd get a set of in ears. Good timing with the video Rob. :D
Wish I knew this a year ago Rob!!!!!! I payed 600 for my Westones!!!!! Like the way you say your Zees ......, Zed. Love your channel man!!!!! Merry Christmas.......if you're ever around Victoria we gotta hang out.
Marcus Amyotte. I paid a pretty penny for my Westone’s also. Have you used the ones Rob is talking about? If so how do they sound compared to the Westone’s?
@@merwb3410 I haven't used them yet but I'm ordering a pair tomorrow and I'll get back to you ASAP
Marcus Amyotte Thanks I appreciate it!!!
What cable did you buy @Rob Brown?
Super helpful Rob!
How do the zs10 pro compare to the shure se215 I have? Looking upgrade to them.
I've compared them. Definitely ZS10Pro
Hi what is your opinion about shure 535
Currently upgraded to the ZSN Pro X . . . . KZ recently released the KZ ASF and ASX
You are 100 percent correct, ZS10 pro are really good. I have been trying to upgrade with IEM's that are sometimes 10x the price and I always feel robbed after testing them. I"m still searching for something that will be better than the zs10 pro and its hard, last pair i tried was IE300 from sennheiser and i sent them back after 15 minute of use. I'm in the process of testing the KZ ZAX, but so far not super impressive other than the sound stage. Might try CCA CA16 next.
I've got custom Ultimate ears pro 5s, but my ZS10 Pros and AS16s are incredible as well!
Adam Parker I haven’t used my UE7s much at all since discovering these KZs
Why do you use straight stands and no boom stands? Just curious, I personally love booms. Thanks for the video. And running a kick ass channel!
Don’t need em. I keeps my plates nice n’close👌🏽And thanks 🙂
What is the upgraded cable you are using? I love my KZ ZSN Pros ( I wonder how different the ZS10 pros are?)....but the cable drives me crazy. I would love an upgraded cable with wire that allows me to shape it around my ear. Mine fall off.