Just Sigurd being a jerk to his son for no reason. I never understood what he meant. Seliph already knows most of what the people endured at that point.
Diogo Jorge Seliph's personality is sort of an extension of the player's desires. It's partly why he has such an objective and observant personality. The primary motivation the player has in Gen 2 is to defeat Alvis, after he killed Sigurd and your army in Gen 1. Sigurd in this moment is calling out both the player and Seliph for their goal to kill Alvis, without understanding the main themes of Gen 2. He's essentially saying "The point of Gen 2 wasn't your personal revenge scheme, it's bigger then that."
It's not like Seliph intended to stop at Arvis. Julius needs to die as well. Lewyn pretty much makes that abundantly clear. It's not about revenge, it's about justice.
There are a few meanings to Sigurd's words. Seliph professes that he "avenged" his father, but Sigurd shoots this down, essentially saying that empathy is one of the most important virtues for one to have, and that Arvis was still a person. It's why Seliph eventually forgives Arvis in the end. Empathy also extends to your friends: he wanted Seliph to remember that he didn't do it alone, and this isn't just Seliph's personal quest but all of Jugdral's, which is especially relevant considering how Sigurd himself led almost all of Gen 1 to their deaths. Simply, Seliph was (understandably) exhausted and caught up in the moment after killing Arvis. Sigurd was just trying to nudge him further, since he still had the rest of the country to liberate.
A similar message is conveyed to Leif by August in Thracia 776. Even though both his and Seliph's lives had abysmal turns, they always had loyal retainers that made sure they never went to bed hungry. The common folk always has to look after themselves - you either work for your meal or go to bed hungry (or worse). One of the best messages that could be conveyed through a videogame, honestly: even though things looked always bad to you, you must make your decisions with people with even worse conditions in mind.
This theme is so close to make me cry when played in Chapter 10. Not only do you get to see Sigurd again (who is my favorite character of all-time, don't judge me), but you also get to see him tell his son a very important life lesson, one that will truly be useful for him when he'll eventually recreate Grannvale from the groundup. It just makes Seliph learn that while his life wasn't exactly great, he still doesn't know how better or worse the conditions of the other peasants were compared to him, and that because of it, he should get closer to them, to guarantee a better future for Granvalle. And that is one of the many reasons why despite its little flaws, Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is my favourite game of all-time. If she does exist, may Naga herself bless this grand jewelry for eternity.
Think of how hard Seliph's life had been to this point. Sigurd's message is still don't forget about the people that have suffered as well. Absolute badass.
Sigurd always does what is right. Even when it cost him his love and his life. He still did what was right. That is justice. That is what it means to be a crusader. That is what founded my country and why even despite it's problems today it remains the greatest on this planet. When Americans grow up and realize that this is our core tenet they will finally see the golden times they desire so badly.
My cousin walked in on me while I was tearing up from the cutscene... it was awkward but I was so happy to see Sigurd again and seeing him brought closure for me... I feel like am really in seliphs shoes man that’s something I really love about feh4 and 5! It’s so immersive!
That's the best part of the whole game because Sigurd is just speaking the truth in a few lines in that moment. I won't spoil it but i'm convinced that it's the way to have peace in Jugdral but also in our own world in these sad times.
Tbh most conflicts throughout history have happened because we never get to see the other side. If people were so open to new ideas, understanding people's sorrow and suffering, it could bring world peace. Instead we have a world full of corrupt bureaucrats that just want to stuff in most for themselves.
@@chillstoneblakeblast3172 The problem isn't corrupt bureaucrats it's the useful idiots who bend over backwards for them without even thinking critically for a single moment because the corrupt will tell them what they want to hear. Naïveté is the problem. Every person has the capacity to practice evil, it's our peers that stop us whether through force of arms, wise words or both.
Sigurd: Seliph you must learn that Arvis didn't fall by your hand alone, it was with the help of your allies Seliph: does having Nanna heal me everytime I attack Arvis count as "help from your allies"? Sigurd: yes Seliph: okay just checking
FE4 and FE5's world is by far my favorite in Fire Emblem. I love the more serious themes and just the feel of the world. Reminds me of a less intense Game of Thrones.
@@platy4700 That secret ending when you A rank the game...my god it was simple but so satisfying. Talk about matching an ending in tone and presence to the rest of the game.
At first you might find Sigurd’s words kinda over heroic and unreal, but when you really think about it, for what it actually conveys through the message he tries to teach his own son, it’s extremely powerful and tearful. Also this is the best theme.
I know that most people think about the Sigurd and Deirdre scene when they hear this song, but Muirne and Seliph's conversation at chapter 8 stands out more when I hear it
Hearing this once I saw the events: This is the saddest thing. But I will overcome it eventually. Hearing it from then on for the rest of my life: Tear please I am in a public place.
I didn't learn about this event until about a month ago. Forget whether or not it makes sense. The absolute chills and emotions reading those lines gave me are fantastic.
To me, Sigurd in this convo implies that he knew the main reason Arvis is doing this, hence telling his son why the war is happening. Why the war started, who are the victims etc etc.
I'm glad I went through all the trouble to play this game. I truly understand why so many regard it as the best. Unfortunetly.... Seliph>Celice Blame Awakening for that one...
This theme conveys so many emotions to me... it's so sad...the moment I saw Sigurd's scene in chapter 10 I cried too much. I've always thought that, in a possible Genealogy remake, this song would be the main theme of the remake, with the voice actors of Sigurd and Deirdre singing to their children ... AAAAAH I imagine it and it would be very beautiful
THE HOLY ARMY OF LORD SELIPH THE SCION OF LIGHT WILL CONQUER IN THE NAME OF GOD AND DIVINE VIRTUE ALL OF FEH CYL IS OURS, SELIPHBROS, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FEH's localized title for this song is "Embracing Destiny".
"...Get to know the people's sorrow. Your world and theirs are still worlds apart."
Shit, ghost Sigurd makes you feel all petty.
Just Sigurd being a jerk to his son for no reason. I never understood what he meant. Seliph already knows most of what the people endured at that point.
Diogo Jorge Seliph's personality is sort of an extension of the player's desires. It's partly why he has such an objective and observant personality.
The primary motivation the player has in Gen 2 is to defeat Alvis, after he killed Sigurd and your army in Gen 1. Sigurd in this moment is calling out both the player and Seliph for their goal to kill Alvis, without understanding the main themes of Gen 2. He's essentially saying "The point of Gen 2 wasn't your personal revenge scheme, it's bigger then that."
It's not like Seliph intended to stop at Arvis. Julius needs to die as well. Lewyn pretty much makes that abundantly clear.
It's not about revenge, it's about justice.
Sigurd just wanted to say that to his son. Roasting is in the family.
There are a few meanings to Sigurd's words. Seliph professes that he "avenged" his father, but Sigurd shoots this down, essentially saying that empathy is one of the most important virtues for one to have, and that Arvis was still a person. It's why Seliph eventually forgives Arvis in the end. Empathy also extends to your friends: he wanted Seliph to remember that he didn't do it alone, and this isn't just Seliph's personal quest but all of Jugdral's, which is especially relevant considering how Sigurd himself led almost all of Gen 1 to their deaths.
Simply, Seliph was (understandably) exhausted and caught up in the moment after killing Arvis. Sigurd was just trying to nudge him further, since he still had the rest of the country to liberate.
After 22 years... Sigurd finally won against Alvis...
(In the Fire Emblem Heroes Voting Gauntlet, that is.)
I feel it still counts haha
A similar message is conveyed to Leif by August in Thracia 776. Even though both his and Seliph's lives had abysmal turns, they always had loyal retainers that made sure they never went to bed hungry. The common folk always has to look after themselves - you either work for your meal or go to bed hungry (or worse). One of the best messages that could be conveyed through a videogame, honestly: even though things looked always bad to you, you must make your decisions with people with even worse conditions in mind.
This theme is so close to make me cry when played in Chapter 10. Not only do you get to see Sigurd again (who is my favorite character of all-time, don't judge me), but you also get to see him tell his son a very important life lesson, one that will truly be useful for him when he'll eventually recreate Grannvale from the groundup. It just makes Seliph learn that while his life wasn't exactly great, he still doesn't know how better or worse the conditions of the other peasants were compared to him, and that because of it, he should get closer to them, to guarantee a better future for Granvalle.
And that is one of the many reasons why despite its little flaws, Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is my favourite game of all-time.
If she does exist, may Naga herself bless this grand jewelry for eternity.
Think of how hard Seliph's life had been to this point. Sigurd's message is still don't forget about the people that have suffered as well. Absolute badass.
Sigurd always does what is right. Even when it cost him his love and his life. He still did what was right. That is justice. That is what it means to be a crusader. That is what founded my country and why even despite it's problems today it remains the greatest on this planet. When Americans grow up and realize that this is our core tenet they will finally see the golden times they desire so badly.
My cousin walked in on me while I was tearing up from the cutscene... it was awkward but I was so happy to see Sigurd again and seeing him brought closure for me... I feel like am really in seliphs shoes man that’s something I really love about feh4 and 5! It’s so immersive!
That's the best part of the whole game because Sigurd is just speaking the truth in a few lines in that moment. I won't spoil it but i'm convinced that it's the way to have peace in Jugdral but also in our own world in these sad times.
Tbh most conflicts throughout history have happened because we never get to see the other side. If people were so open to new ideas, understanding people's sorrow and suffering, it could bring world peace. Instead we have a world full of corrupt bureaucrats that just want to stuff in most for themselves.
@@chillstoneblakeblast3172 The problem isn't corrupt bureaucrats it's the useful idiots who bend over backwards for them without even thinking critically for a single moment because the corrupt will tell them what they want to hear. Naïveté is the problem. Every person has the capacity to practice evil, it's our peers that stop us whether through force of arms, wise words or both.
@@dragoneye6229 it's both of them, sadly. I hope we can move forward as a species/society.
Sigurd: Seliph you must learn that Arvis didn't fall by your hand alone, it was with the help of your allies
Seliph: does having Nanna heal me everytime I attack Arvis count as "help from your allies"?
Sigurd: yes
Seliph: okay just checking
Shannan and Oifey helped Seliph get there.
FE4 and FE5's world is by far my favorite in Fire Emblem. I love the more serious themes and just the feel of the world. Reminds me of a less intense Game of Thrones.
And one with a satisfying finale, at that.
@@platy4700 That secret ending when you A rank the game...my god it was simple but so satisfying. Talk about matching an ending in tone and presence to the rest of the game.
"I once lost all of memories, and became a puppet to the whims of fate." - Legendary Deirdre: Fated Saint
Sigurd ... ):
At first you might find Sigurd’s words kinda over heroic and unreal, but when you really think about it, for what it actually conveys through the message he tries to teach his own son, it’s extremely powerful and tearful. Also this is the best theme.
How I wish there was an extended version of this! This song makes me cry every time!
Eran Carter There is look it up on youtube... its an hour
I know that most people think about the Sigurd and Deirdre scene when they hear this song, but Muirne and Seliph's conversation at chapter 8 stands out more when I hear it
SeliphxMuirne forever.
Sigurd: Are ya' winnin' son?
I cried here!!!! It was such a precious family moment. 🥺
The real lost in thoughts
GET
BACK
TEAR
T_T
Step 1:Watch the scene in Chapter 10.
Step 2:Try not to cry.
Step 3:Cry a lot.
Hearing this once I saw the events: This is the saddest thing. But I will overcome it eventually.
Hearing it from then on for the rest of my life: Tear please I am in a public place.
I didn't learn about this event until about a month ago. Forget whether or not it makes sense. The absolute chills and emotions reading those lines gave me are fantastic.
I definitely had a sense of peace and serenity from this music. I can't help but feel emotional.
To me, Sigurd in this convo implies that he knew the main reason Arvis is doing this, hence telling his son why the war is happening. Why the war started, who are the victims etc etc.
I admit it, seeing Sigurd again got me broke in tears... But this song really killed me... :'c
But finally... He has found Deirdre at long last... :')
Im playing this theme cause i didnt get sigurd for the world of the holy war banner :(
Delicious, finally some FEH home castle music 😊
Seliph after joining his sister and cousin in the legendary hall
That's why I'm here.
Is now in héroes :)
I'm glad I went through all the trouble to play this game. I truly understand why so many regard it as the best.
Unfortunetly....
Seliph>Celice
Blame Awakening for that one...
This theme conveys so many emotions to me... it's so sad...the moment I saw Sigurd's scene in chapter 10 I cried too much. I've always thought that, in a possible Genealogy remake, this song would be the main theme of the remake, with the voice actors of Sigurd and Deirdre singing to their children ... AAAAAH I imagine it and it would be very beautiful
RIP Sigurd
THE HOLY ARMY OF LORD SELIPH THE SCION OF LIGHT WILL CONQUER IN THE NAME OF GOD AND DIVINE VIRTUE ALL OF FEH
CYL IS OURS, SELIPHBROS, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Now let's get his pops up there too.
haha genealogy
Arvis disliked...
Honestly, I'd think he'd like it, considering through his help you get to hear this play...
Manfroy is the one who didnt liked it or julius or both
Ghost Deirde is with Ghost Sigurd and not with him... Indeed Arvis disliked... XDDDDD
@@hiphopstrongman Arvis was basically trying to create Sigurd's world in a sense, so yeah, he'd like this speech.