I think the most egregious examples of Bollywood messing up Indian Military history wasn't the Kargil movies. That crown goes to JP Dutta's Border. For a movie to have the gall to cast insinuations of incompetence in Indian Army upper brass for the 1971 war is just priceless. The Battle of Longewala was a tactical masterclass and one of the finest moments of the Indian Army. We had two causalities for the enemy's two hundred, where the movie had rows upon rows of fictional Indian soldiers perishing. They lost 40 TANKS for 1 Jonga of the Indian Army! For the movie to then use that maliciously earned sympathy to end with a song "mere dushman mere bhai" about the dying children and destroyed settlements, what could be more crass? If ever there was a justifiable war it was the 71 war. And it was competently fought. Also, thank you for bringing up Rocket Boys. It was abhorrent. Forget about history, they threw even basic sense out of the picture. For instance there's a scene where Sarabhai sends a rocket to the balcony of his love interest. Forget about that era, even today we don't have control systems good enough to make a rocket do that safely. Not to mention the sheer stupidity of aiming a hot shower of molten metal burning at hundreds of degrees at your love interest's room, I would suspect Dr Vikram Sarabhai to be an arsonist from just viewing that scene and not a celebrated scientist. I watched that scene and closed the browser. And I won't watch anything else Bollywood produces unless I am given good reason.
Screen adaptation of such historical instances have to have theatrics to bring in and entice the cinema-goers. We can pick and choose what we like and ignore the rest
@@himanshusoni528 You can exaggerate things but you can't make up things. Also, to make an anti-war ending in about a war that saved millions of lives? If the maker wanted to make a movie with a message about unnecessary human suffering due to wars they should have made a movie about a different war.
Only a foreigner could've made an honest movie about Gandhi, Congress would have deified him and BJP would have completely maligned him. I believe, the same would apply to Modi as well. One side would completely adore him as a non-biological avatar of Brahma himself, and the other one would basically call him almost a dictator. And yet, the moment a foreigner speaks any truth about Modi, Indian people get riled up. Such snowflakes.
Difference between Shekhar reviewing IC814 last week and Emergency now is clear!! He is quite eloquently vociferous in criticizing Emergency whereas he was a reluctant critique, if at all, in case of IC814. If today you blame Modi for everything that happens on every street of India, why any one should not blame Nehru and Indira for what happened during their times? After all, they had much more control over every aspect of government without much of today's free media, social media and dark forces acting against India.
No amount of tweets against Nehru can get you in trouble. But people have been put behind bars for as mush as writing a tweet against your beloved Supreme leader. That's the difference. With Nehru, most of us people leaning left understand that people are shades of grey. Even the greatest leaders made mistakes in their lifetime, it's only human. But try talking ill of the ruling government and you'd have a tsunami of hyper nationalist trolls and fans asking you to go to Pakistan. If you watch Shekhar, he has called out Congress more times than I can remember. He has published articles in his prime against the then elected Congress govt., which is what today's journalist cannot even dream about.
Please. Try tweeting about Sonia Gandhi or Stalin or Mamata Bannerjee now, and see who comes to get you. And there's so much criticism about Modi all the time - who's been put into jail ?
@@mickeykedia Sonia Gandhi? Really? Nobody has been put in jail for criticizing them. I'll give you Queen of Bengal though, she is one of the worst dictators our country has seen on state level. NewsClick founder, Siddique Kappan(covered Hatharas case), Jignesh Mevani, Fahad Shah(The Kashmir walla). These are the few that come to my mind. You can lookup more on Google. All of the above were either put in jail without trial, or held without chargesheet, and the latter's case, kept in jail even after the court cleared him. And please don't do whataboutism by naming Mrs Gandhi. She also tried to subvert the constitution just like your dear leader. The reason Indians have been slaves even now is because anytime someone questions their leaders, fanboys come running with their whataboutism for the opposition. When will people learn that all politicians are corruptible and need to be kept answerable!
None of the cases you mentioned are about tweets / posts about Modi. Newsclick is under investigation for taking money from China, and the others (whether wrongly or rightly) are also under investigation for other issues. I'm not trying to idolize someone btw, I just see that the Congress is much more sophisticated in being able to suppress actual dissent. Remember actions around Arnab / Kangana ? On the other hand has Ravish Kumar for all his stupidities been taken to task like that ?
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
Thank you for the very astute piece Shekhar. I have never understood why Indians fail to realize that they aren’t helpless and cannot be forced to watch something. They can quite simply choose NOT TO WATCH. But they have no right to force their choices on others. Just don’t watch. Simple.
All such films are exaggerated accounts devised to bring in loads of money. No honesty or sincerity involved. Come to think of it, our society (Indian) lives on such hype and ego boosting dosage from films, net & media.
When the entire story is about the movie the Emergency, aren’t you dishonest to your viewers just by adding the word İÇ 814 to sound neutral. Everyone has an agenda and you have one too
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
Reading books about history is a better idea than watching movies about historical events. Because one is encouraged to read more books on a single event in history to have an opinion It will save you from going into extreme zones of Thinking. Series based on past events should be evaluated primarily on factual grounds rather than through the lens of contemporary perspectives, which are often influenced by hyper-nationalism. This black-and-white approach hinders our understanding of complex realities. The series' portrayal of terrorists using code names like 'Doctor,' 'Bhola,' 'Burger,' and 'Shankar' aligns with documented facts, reportedly listed on a government website, possibly the Ministry of External Affairs. While I found the series to be decent, it didn't reach the quality of 'Patal Lok' or 'Family Man.' The hype surrounding it was excessive. Veer Sanghvi's article in The Print highlights several instances where the series failed to accurately depict the involvement of the ISI. And Now Kangna movie. Given these factors, it's essential to understand the filmmakers' research methods of both Kangna and Anubha how they chose to portray the real-life experiences of the being Indira Gandhi or hostages in the plane . While creative liberties are acceptable, it's crucial to avoid distorting facts. The disappointment expressed by Mr. Sharma, the chief steward, suggests that the series may have been rushed and lacked sufficient research and what we are going to watch in emergency is a known secret now.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
In one essay, Shekhar ji succeeded in insulating Smt Indira Gandhi from criticism for shaking the foundations of Bharat democracy (it was a weak moment, it was the fault of the sycophants), for propping up the monster Bhindranwale (Zail Singh's fault), and turning B_wale into an Amitabh Bacchan (don't mess with him!), and letting him off on a technicality (he didn't ASK for Khalistan and breaking up India but wouldn't mind it if he were offered it). He also worked in a snarky swipe at the redoubtable Kangana (her make up looked bad). No wonder clever writing in irresponsible hands can send society to dogs (I am sure Aristotle or his ilk had something to say on this count). Other thoughts: imagine a senior American journalist figuratively wagging their finger at a Hollywood director saying - don't mess with Osama! American society would disown such a journalist for the disrespect to the memory of the thousands of American lives lost. Sadly, there is no such sensibility in Bharat, yet.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
Shekhar ji, as we got information from you that Bhinderawale has never used "Khalistan" word. It is also a fake news in the movie and this type of things should not be done in any movie, specially related to a bloody separatist and terrorist activities.
@@krislo4788 First of all, movie is not yet released. Second, der is something called National security. It is not about showing some wrong facts about History. It is about a bloody history and terrorist whose was killed in the holiest place of one of the community. The holy place was damaged Bcz of that and hence a really sensitive issue. I don't have any issue if Indira Gandhi has been portrayed as saying "India is Indira, Indira is India". This is also fake news. But this is sensitive for Congress only. By the way, remember this Gyaan while watching the Netflix series about Kandhar hizake.
@@BharatThatIsIndia National security? really? like what? a movie will cause a breach in national security? That's how weak this country is?! It is a blood history and let us all know what the sikhs did to the Hindus in Punjab and how they ethnically cleansed them....but you can show any movie which hurts the Hindu sentiments, it is not a matter of national security then? it is not fake them?! Because they are a majority and in the guise of freedom of choice , you will show anything to hurt them? The same supreme court which as banned emergency movie said the words...during PK...if you dont line it..dont watch it...if the Sikhs dont like it..let them not watch it.
@@ThePrintIndia I was just joking about your fascination for Madras Cafe in last 6 years. I have heard you give credit to Madras Cafe million times. I always think whenever you see a bad attempt to show history in movies, you’d thank Madras Cafe for how they got it right.
@@ThePrintIndia SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his motive ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
Wow so being critical of a movie which is not released quiet a karni sena move you have pulled here Shekhar, whatbhappened to freedom of expression and it is just a movie.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
But in shadows, the truth lies awake, Waiting for dawn, for the darkness to break. For every fiction spun to deceive, There’s a reckoning, a truth to retrieve.
wow! What an honest service! Mr Gupta is now speaking! Best comment on fictionalization of historic events, distortion of facts and truth, and defamation of characters, particularly of Dalits and Muslim (now Sikhs), in the name of "creative liberty"!
Woke journalism at its best. If Kangana's film has factual errors, it is laughable. Such errors should be mocked. But, if IC-814 contains factual errors and distortions, we Hindus are too thin skinned and must learn to put up with insults more bravely. It seems that after the 2024 Loksabha election results, Mr.Shekar Gupta is regaining his colours.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
1. SG I can see the pain in you while describing about the movie emergency, the same was totally missing when you discussed IC-814 Netflix series, which is understandble keeping in view your deep biases, neverthless you are still brilliant by and large. 2. Even if Bhindrawale never uttered the word Khalistan, wasnt he single handly responsible for violet militancy, what was the militancy for ???? 3. While Congress hob nobbed with Bhindrawale and created a frankenstein monster which resulted in blood bath in state , Golden Temple attack, Mrs Gandhi assasination and Delhi Riots, Who was largely responsible ?
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
it`s shameful that such a topic is being discussed when crores of people across India are suffering from floods. people from N. East, Utaarakand , AP and Telangana have been suffering from floods and political apathy. Open your eyes and see the sufferings of helpless innocent people.
We are a vast country, by your logic nothing else will ever get discussed as there is some or other calamity is happening somewhere.. just because commenting is free does not mean you are barred from thinking before posting it
Bhai. Meghnad Saha ko Dalit scientist kiyun bola!! We never said that. Mujhe Google karna padha ke Sir Dalit the ke nahi. In Bengal we don't discriminate and ayse bolte bhi nahi hain. Insaan ko imsaan ki tarha dekhte hain
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
One of the most unproductive opinions is rooted in "whataboutism." Today, because there's a movie about an emergency, IC814 is receiving some counterbalancing criticism. Otherwise, we would have seen the usual claim that we're too thin-skinned for criticizing a subpar filmmaker.
Again, I agree that filmmakers are not researching enough and are staying close to facts. But Shekhar JI, there are alternate versions of facts depending upon whom you ask. Hence, some slips should be allowed given disclaimers based on so and so person or media publications as a scientific journal disclose its sources. But I haven't seen you disect Kashmir files, you should take the challenge of Vivek where he said everything in that movie displayed was real when it comes to events portrayed.
In my opinion the reason for Emergency not getting released, is BJP is afraid people will finally realize India is in an emergency for the last ten years.
Nope. It's because the BJP still hasn't found out why it suffered so monumental losses in the latest LS election, and is trying to avoid any controversy until then. The many quick withdrawals on many issues - with even a slightest voice of opposition and dissent, all point to the same problem. BJP is unprepared and low on confidence.
you need to be imbecile to compare indira's emergency to BJP's governance. Indira had put lacs of people including politicians, journalists, opposition party members in Jail and there was almost a marshall law in India - she also bulled Indian judiciary to bend her way. Are you sonia's illegitimate child? Your iQ is similar to pappu's. Chatte to ho ye pata hai lekin itni lazzat se chatte ho pappu ki ye prove karne pe tule bhi ho?
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
You only have to watch any Bollywood movie to see how emotional conflict is handled in the most cringe inducing way, with stock phrases and overacting that would shame a good high school play. And the Indian audience laps it up. Are they ready for something that does not overload the sappy factor? Methinks not. Viksit Bharat 2047? Not even 2097 with this overly sentimental mindset.
Why does this guy look so agitated with the movie "Emergency"? It is clear WHY? He is the biggest hypocrite. Let him comment like this on some other movie - HE WILL NOT! Hardly 2 minutes for IC-814 but more than 20 minutes for Emergency. Who is the hypocrite now?
Bollywood should make many more war movies. And Indian audiance must get enlighten enough to not treat every soilders as God like figure who are infallible. Soilders are human beings and they will have flaws. But finally they will fight for India and give der everything. So all these should be shown in any movie and people should accept it. 120 is a good way to start that.
Ao you don't know yet ' emergency ' is distorting facts or not. But want to compare with other films which distort and bring the film down....but you know ic814 does distort facts but somehow defend it... Shekhar your propaganda machine is on point.... hope congress learns from you
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
Shekhar Gupta seems to have a lot of problem with movies/ web series produced showing the dark sides of the Congress regime and its leaders, calling them juvenile, dishonest and foolish. Not a balanced critique, shows his extreme bias.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him. Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus, And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ? SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode. Super disappointed in SG
Watched IC814, found it quite interesting , possibly a little stretched in parts , but overall a riveting watch Yes some could have a grouse that the hijackers were using Hindu names but this was a fact that was revealed by the govt itself in the aftermath of the hijacking. Yes there should have a been a disclaimer. That’s about it It just shows our bureaucracy, politicians and intelligence agencies in poor light and rightly so. They should have been called out years ago. Good that someone is talking about it and all those guilty are in panic mode to salvage their image for posterity. Happy that it is exposed and generating a public debate.
The problem is we tend to put people into two boxes, good and bad, without realising that everyone has strengths and weaknesses.
There's no Black and White, only different shades of Grey.
Great point mate. Binary opposition thinking must be critically evaluated.
"You are either my friend or my enemy. There is no middle ground!"
Schrodinger's people.
I think the most egregious examples of Bollywood messing up Indian Military history wasn't the Kargil movies. That crown goes to JP Dutta's Border. For a movie to have the gall to cast insinuations of incompetence in Indian Army upper brass for the 1971 war is just priceless.
The Battle of Longewala was a tactical masterclass and one of the finest moments of the Indian Army. We had two causalities for the enemy's two hundred, where the movie had rows upon rows of fictional Indian soldiers perishing. They lost 40 TANKS for 1 Jonga of the Indian Army!
For the movie to then use that maliciously earned sympathy to end with a song "mere dushman mere bhai" about the dying children and destroyed settlements, what could be more crass? If ever there was a justifiable war it was the 71 war. And it was competently fought.
Also, thank you for bringing up Rocket Boys. It was abhorrent. Forget about history, they threw even basic sense out of the picture. For instance there's a scene where Sarabhai sends a rocket to the balcony of his love interest. Forget about that era, even today we don't have control systems good enough to make a rocket do that safely. Not to mention the sheer stupidity of aiming a hot shower of molten metal burning at hundreds of degrees at your love interest's room, I would suspect Dr Vikram Sarabhai to be an arsonist from just viewing that scene and not a celebrated scientist. I watched that scene and closed the browser. And I won't watch anything else Bollywood produces unless I am given good reason.
so true
Articulation on point
Screen adaptation of such historical instances have to have theatrics to bring in and entice the cinema-goers. We can pick and choose what we like and ignore the rest
RSVP makes great military movies with good accuracy
@@himanshusoni528 You can exaggerate things but you can't make up things.
Also, to make an anti-war ending in about a war that saved millions of lives? If the maker wanted to make a movie with a message about unnecessary human suffering due to wars they should have made a movie about a different war.
Only a foreigner could've made an honest movie about Gandhi, Congress would have deified him and BJP would have completely maligned him. I believe, the same would apply to Modi as well. One side would completely adore him as a non-biological avatar of Brahma himself, and the other one would basically call him almost a dictator. And yet, the moment a foreigner speaks any truth about Modi, Indian people get riled up. Such snowflakes.
Difference between Shekhar reviewing IC814 last week and Emergency now is clear!! He is quite eloquently vociferous in criticizing Emergency whereas he was a reluctant critique, if at all, in case of IC814. If today you blame Modi for everything that happens on every street of India, why any one should not blame Nehru and Indira for what happened during their times? After all, they had much more control over every aspect of government without much of today's free media, social media and dark forces acting against India.
No amount of tweets against Nehru can get you in trouble. But people have been put behind bars for as mush as writing a tweet against your beloved Supreme leader. That's the difference. With Nehru, most of us people leaning left understand that people are shades of grey. Even the greatest leaders made mistakes in their lifetime, it's only human. But try talking ill of the ruling government and you'd have a tsunami of hyper nationalist trolls and fans asking you to go to Pakistan.
If you watch Shekhar, he has called out Congress more times than I can remember. He has published articles in his prime against the then elected Congress govt., which is what today's journalist cannot even dream about.
Please. Try tweeting about Sonia Gandhi or Stalin or Mamata Bannerjee now, and see who comes to get you. And there's so much criticism about Modi all the time - who's been put into jail ?
@@mickeykedia Sonia Gandhi? Really? Nobody has been put in jail for criticizing them. I'll give you Queen of Bengal though, she is one of the worst dictators our country has seen on state level.
NewsClick founder, Siddique Kappan(covered Hatharas case), Jignesh Mevani, Fahad Shah(The Kashmir walla). These are the few that come to my mind. You can lookup more on Google. All of the above were either put in jail without trial, or held without chargesheet, and the latter's case, kept in jail even after the court cleared him.
And please don't do whataboutism by naming Mrs Gandhi. She also tried to subvert the constitution just like your dear leader.
The reason Indians have been slaves even now is because anytime someone questions their leaders, fanboys come running with their whataboutism for the opposition. When will people learn that all politicians are corruptible and need to be kept answerable!
What else did you expect?? Given SG's history.
None of the cases you mentioned are about tweets / posts about Modi. Newsclick is under investigation for taking money from China, and the others (whether wrongly or rightly) are also under investigation for other issues. I'm not trying to idolize someone btw, I just see that the Congress is much more sophisticated in being able to suppress actual dissent. Remember actions around Arnab / Kangana ? On the other hand has Ravish Kumar for all his stupidities been taken to task like that ?
Kangana’s Emergency will be passed after Haryana election.
Why is he upset about only one movie? That too without watching it. Is it because he is total fan of IG?
IG did things that would make Supreme Leader soil his pants. I wouldn't pick that fight if I were you.
Most people were her fans. She was a strong leader, unlike her stupid descendants.
@@shubs3566 may be that’s you
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
Thank you for the very astute piece Shekhar. I have never understood why Indians fail to realize that they aren’t helpless and cannot be forced to watch something. They can quite simply choose NOT TO WATCH. But they have no right to force their choices on others. Just don’t watch. Simple.
before searching and researching, you forgot that she had already cmpltd before her elections
All such films are exaggerated accounts devised to bring in loads of money. No honesty or sincerity involved. Come to think of it, our society (Indian) lives on such hype and ego boosting dosage from films, net & media.
That is why Indians were colonized? Only constitution in the world which has to emphasize on its citizen to have scientific temper.
When the entire story is about the movie the Emergency, aren’t you dishonest to your viewers just by adding the word İÇ 814 to sound neutral. Everyone has an agenda and you have one too
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
Shekar - Could you please analyse the erstwhile movie Kissa Khursi ka whose prints were burnt by Sanjay Gandhi & VC Shukla
Dude, when was any other film made in the fake Gandhis? They’ve done nothing worth making a movie about 😂😂😂
Nope, they have done a lot for Brahmavad and Hindus.
Jodha akbar aur Padmavt ke samay gyan kaha gaya tha
Reading books about history is a better idea than watching movies about historical events. Because one is encouraged to read more books on a single event in history to have an opinion It will save you from going into extreme zones of Thinking. Series based on past events should be evaluated primarily on factual grounds rather than through the lens of contemporary perspectives, which are often influenced by hyper-nationalism. This black-and-white approach hinders our understanding of complex realities.
The series' portrayal of terrorists using code names like 'Doctor,' 'Bhola,' 'Burger,' and 'Shankar' aligns with documented facts, reportedly listed on a government website, possibly the Ministry of External Affairs.
While I found the series to be decent, it didn't reach the quality of 'Patal Lok' or 'Family Man.' The hype surrounding it was excessive.
Veer Sanghvi's article in The Print highlights several instances where the series failed to accurately depict the involvement of the ISI. And Now Kangna movie.
Given these factors, it's essential to understand the filmmakers' research methods of both Kangna and Anubha how they chose to portray the real-life experiences of the being Indira Gandhi or hostages in the plane . While creative liberties are acceptable, it's crucial to avoid distorting facts. The disappointment expressed by Mr. Sharma, the chief steward, suggests that the series may have been rushed and lacked sufficient research and what we are going to watch in emergency is a known secret now.
That is against Brahmavad.
People are not ready to accept their heroes and villains as normal humans. They must be either of the 2. And that's where the issue comes.
I am very grateful to SG for talking and writing on such an important issue. I agree with everything that you said here
I thought this man will speak about IC814 , but he goes on and on about emergency . Biased useless analusis .
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
In one essay, Shekhar ji succeeded in insulating Smt Indira Gandhi from criticism for shaking the foundations of Bharat democracy (it was a weak moment, it was the fault of the sycophants), for propping up the monster Bhindranwale (Zail Singh's fault), and turning B_wale into an Amitabh Bacchan (don't mess with him!), and letting him off on a technicality (he didn't ASK for Khalistan and breaking up India but wouldn't mind it if he were offered it). He also worked in a snarky swipe at the redoubtable Kangana (her make up looked bad). No wonder clever writing in irresponsible hands can send society to dogs (I am sure Aristotle or his ilk had something to say on this count). Other thoughts: imagine a senior American journalist figuratively wagging their finger at a Hollywood director saying - don't mess with Osama! American society would disown such a journalist for the disrespect to the memory of the thousands of American lives lost. Sadly, there is no such sensibility in Bharat, yet.
So beautifully put sir. Thank you
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
Well said!
Shekhar ji, as we got information from you that Bhinderawale has never used "Khalistan" word.
It is also a fake news in the movie and this type of things should not be done in any movie, specially related to a bloody separatist and terrorist activities.
If you dont like it..dont watch it?! what happened to that quote from SC?!
@@krislo4788 First of all, movie is not yet released.
Second, der is something called National security. It is not about showing some wrong facts about History.
It is about a bloody history and terrorist whose was killed in the holiest place of one of the community.
The holy place was damaged Bcz of that and hence a really sensitive issue.
I don't have any issue if Indira Gandhi has been portrayed as saying "India is Indira, Indira is India".
This is also fake news. But this is sensitive for Congress only.
By the way, remember this Gyaan while watching the Netflix series about Kandhar hizake.
@@BharatThatIsIndia National security? really? like what? a movie will cause a breach in national security? That's how weak this country is?! It is a blood history and let us all know what the sikhs did to the Hindus in Punjab and how they ethnically cleansed them....but you can show any movie which hurts the Hindu sentiments, it is not a matter of national security then? it is not fake them?! Because they are a majority and in the guise of freedom of choice , you will show anything to hurt them? The same supreme court which as banned emergency movie said the words...during PK...if you dont line it..dont watch it...if the Sikhs dont like it..let them not watch it.
Fed up of this. Nothing good to discuss from the Print
Khangress propaganda media
Agree 100%
Thanks Mr Gupta
Perfect 👌 Pointed Out
Let me guess, will you credit Madras Cafe again for perfect depiction 😂😂
I have written a national interest on Madras Cafe with much praise for it. Will try and put out a video version soon..l thank you…Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia I was just joking about your fascination for Madras Cafe in last 6 years. I have heard you give credit to Madras Cafe million times. I always think whenever you see a bad attempt to show history in movies, you’d thank Madras Cafe for how they got it right.
@@ThePrintIndia SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his motive ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
What about I C 814? Your title mentions it but you skip it?
Once u observe sekhars hand movements u cant unsee it. Relentless. 😅
Really appreciate your all national interest shekhar ji ❤ .. all the Bhakts who criticise him are fools he is true veteran journalist!!
Wow so being critical of a movie which is not released quiet a karni sena move you have pulled here Shekhar, whatbhappened to freedom of expression and it is just a movie.
This guy is but!-hurt but normalized fictionalization in the tele adaptation of Kandhar plane hijack
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
But in shadows, the truth lies awake,
Waiting for dawn, for the darkness to break.
For every fiction spun to deceive,
There’s a reckoning, a truth to retrieve.
wow! What an honest service!
Mr Gupta is now speaking!
Best comment on fictionalization of historic events, distortion of facts and truth, and defamation of characters, particularly of Dalits and Muslim (now Sikhs), in the name of "creative liberty"!
The ntflix series is definitely propaganda.
Woke journalism at its best. If Kangana's film has factual errors, it is laughable. Such errors should be mocked. But, if IC-814 contains factual errors and distortions, we Hindus are too thin skinned and must learn to put up with insults more bravely. It seems that after the 2024 Loksabha election results, Mr.Shekar Gupta is regaining his colours.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
1. SG I can see the pain in you while describing about the movie emergency, the same was totally missing when you discussed IC-814 Netflix series, which is understandble keeping in view your deep biases, neverthless you are still brilliant by and large.
2. Even if Bhindrawale never uttered the word Khalistan, wasnt he single handly responsible for violet militancy, what was the militancy for ????
3. While Congress hob nobbed with Bhindrawale and created a frankenstein monster which resulted in blood bath in state , Golden Temple attack, Mrs Gandhi assasination and Delhi Riots, Who was largely responsible ?
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
it`s shameful that such a topic is being discussed when crores of people across India are suffering from floods. people from N. East, Utaarakand , AP and Telangana have been suffering from floods and political apathy. Open your eyes and see the sufferings of helpless innocent people.
Nope, all topics need to be discussed
Nothing wrong to discuss above topic... as matter of fact it is more important then floods which is only to expected
We are a vast country, by your logic nothing else will ever get discussed as there is some or other calamity is happening somewhere.. just because commenting is free does not mean you are barred from thinking before posting it
Stop virtue signaling
Meghnad saha belonged to Teli community just like Modi...so he was an OBC not Dalit
Bhai. Meghnad Saha ko Dalit scientist kiyun bola!! We never said that. Mujhe Google karna padha ke Sir Dalit the ke nahi. In Bengal we don't discriminate and ayse bolte bhi nahi hain. Insaan ko imsaan ki tarha dekhte hain
The bias of Shekhar Gupta
Where is the Similar criticism of IC814
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
One of the most unproductive opinions is rooted in "whataboutism." Today, because there's a movie about an emergency, IC814 is receiving some counterbalancing criticism. Otherwise, we would have seen the usual claim that we're too thin-skinned for criticizing a subpar filmmaker.
Again, I agree that filmmakers are not researching enough and are staying close to facts. But Shekhar JI, there are alternate versions of facts depending upon whom you ask. Hence, some slips should be allowed given disclaimers based on so and so person or media publications as a scientific journal disclose its sources. But I haven't seen you disect Kashmir files, you should take the challenge of Vivek where he said everything in that movie displayed was real when it comes to events portrayed.
Why we are not seeing , hearing anything sebi chief
She said india is indira ..over phone..its their in biography written by foreigner
In my opinion the reason for Emergency not getting released, is BJP is afraid people will finally realize India is in an emergency for the last ten years.
Nope. It's because the BJP still hasn't found out why it suffered so monumental losses in the latest LS election, and is trying to avoid any controversy until then. The many quick withdrawals on many issues - with even a slightest voice of opposition and dissent, all point to the same problem. BJP is unprepared and low on confidence.
You guys are maliciously great at coining terms, right? Tell me. What the f*ckn hell does Electorial Autocracy means?
Emergency for last 10 years? Absurd.
Privileged Hindutva troll.
you need to be imbecile to compare indira's emergency to BJP's governance. Indira had put lacs of people including politicians, journalists, opposition party members in Jail and there was almost a marshall law in India - she also bulled Indian judiciary to bend her way. Are you sonia's illegitimate child? Your iQ is similar to pappu's. Chatte to ho ye pata hai lekin itni lazzat se chatte ho pappu ki ye prove karne pe tule bhi ho?
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
Good as always
You only have to watch any Bollywood movie to see how emotional conflict is handled in the most cringe inducing way, with stock phrases and overacting that would shame a good high school play. And the Indian audience laps it up. Are they ready for something that does not overload the sappy factor? Methinks not. Viksit Bharat 2047? Not even 2097 with this overly sentimental mindset.
Why does this guy look so agitated with the movie "Emergency"? It is clear WHY? He is the biggest hypocrite. Let him comment like this on some other movie - HE WILL NOT!
Hardly 2 minutes for IC-814 but more than 20 minutes for Emergency. Who is the hypocrite now?
nice monologue
Bollywood should make many more war movies.
And Indian audiance must get enlighten enough to not treat every soilders as God like figure who are infallible.
Soilders are human beings and they will have flaws. But finally they will fight for India and give der everything. So all these should be shown in any movie and people should accept it.
120 is a good way to start that.
Fine, but why gaslighting the Society. It is the film-makers which do this manipulation, NOT the people.
I find you & your Chanel as pro- congress & anti bjp
Uncleji, pls keep ur so called whtever to urself
Ur crap doesnt look unbiased anyways.
Would you mind making a video on SEBI CHIEF, alleged misdeeds?
Ao you don't know yet ' emergency ' is distorting facts or not. But want to compare with other films which distort and bring the film down....but you know ic814 does distort facts but somehow defend it... Shekhar your propaganda machine is on point.... hope congress learns from you
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
You are wrong mama, please watch rocket boys again
Shekhar Gupta seems to have a lot of problem with movies/ web series produced showing the dark sides of the Congress regime and its leaders, calling them juvenile, dishonest and foolish.
Not a balanced critique, shows his extreme bias.
SG has some fascination with bhindranvale, almost like loves him.
Keeps whitewashing that they killed so many hindus,
And if bhindranvale was so saint like, why was he preparing militry in golden temple ? What was his aim ?
SG however does not say anything on ic814, who are giving clean chit to isi in hijacking episode.
Super disappointed in SG
Watched IC814, found it quite interesting , possibly a little stretched in parts , but overall a riveting watch
Yes some could have a grouse that the hijackers were using Hindu names but this was a fact that was revealed by the govt itself in the aftermath of the hijacking. Yes there should have a been a disclaimer. That’s about it
It just shows our bureaucracy, politicians and intelligence agencies in poor light and rightly so. They should have been called out years ago.
Good that someone is talking about it and all those guilty are in panic mode to salvage their image for posterity. Happy that it is exposed and generating a public debate.
120 bahadur are 120 ahirs ,,,, veer ahir veer yadav
Sekhar sir grand old party worker better i had unsubscribe ur print u are not a neutral journalist
70% of your content is what you are narrating on propoganda what you are explaining in this episode of yours.... including this one of yours
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