William Dalrymple on the Wonder That Was India, Which We Don't Know of or Have Forgotten

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  • William Dalrymple on the wonder that was India, which we don't know of or have forgotten: an interview to Karan Thapar on his new book 'The Golden Road' for The Wire
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    Speaking about India during the period starting the 3rd century BC and ending around the 12-13th century CE, William Dalrymple says: ““What Greece was first to Rome, then to the rest of the Mediterranean and European World, so at this period India was to South East and Central Asia and even to China”. In other words, India was one of the great and dominant intellectual and cultural forces in the world, on par with other civilizations like Greece and China.
    In an interview to mark the launch of his recent book ‘The Golden Road: How Ancient India Transformed the World’, William Dalrymple talks about three broad and big narratives, which are also the core of his book. They are the spread of Buddhism from India to China and Central Asia and all the way to Siberia and Mongolia, the spread of Hinduism and Sanskritik culture to South East Asia all the way to Cambodia and Java and the spread of Indian concepts of mathematics and astronomy to the Arab world and thence to Europe. I will leave you to see the interview for the details and description of these three narratives but let me tell you that William Dalrymple is fascinating and riveting when he speaks about them. His passion and his enthusiasm is infectious.
    Illustrations of India’s great contribution in terms of the three narratives are plentiful. Wu Zetian, the only female Emperor of China, created, for a 40-50 year period, a sort of Indian durbar comprising Buddhist scholars from Nalanda. The Barmak family, the traditional viziers of Baghdad, and the Italian mathematician Fibonacci, helped disseminate Indian mathematics and astronomy, first right through the Arab world and then slowly but steadily into Europe. These were basically the concepts and ideas of Aryabhatt and Brahmagupta. Whilst Brahmin missionaries and, later, merchants and traders carried Hinduism and Sanskritik culture to South East Asia, resulting in the world’s largest Hindu temple at Angkor Wat and the world’s largest Buddhist temple at Borobudur. As a result you find a Kurukshetra in Laos, an Ayodhya in Thailand and by some interpretations the Mekong River is another form of Ma Ganga.
    Of India’s great contribution the Chief Justice of Toledo wrote: “Over many centuries, all the kings of the past have recognized the ability of the Indians in all the branches of knowledge. The Indians … are the essence of wisdom … the Indians have made great strides in the study of numbers and geometry … they have surpassed all other peoples in their knowledge of medical science.”
    William Dalrymple speaks extensively, enthusiastically and engagingly about all of this. Here’s a little nugget - just one - of what he reveals. Although China presents itself as the middle kingdom i.e. the centre of the world, during the time of the Roman Empire there was hardly any direct trade between China and the West. Indeed, they barely knew of each other. On the other hand, such was the extent of trade between the Roman Empire and India that by one estimate custom taxes may have generated one-third of the total income of the Roman exchequer. Another ‘proof’ of this is that Indian museums contain more Roman coins than any other country outside the boundaries of the Roman Empire. These facts alone amount to a significant re-setting of the India-China story.
    I will stop there. This is a fascinating interview with an author and speaker who can be quite mesmerizing. You will learn an awful lot you never knew or, if you were dimly aware of it, you did not fully understand. Now, you will find out as well as grasp the full importance of it all.
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Комментарии • 623

  • @lalitharavindran
    @lalitharavindran 3 месяца назад +54

    Thank you William Darlymple for studying the India related history and presenting it so well. 🙏🏽

  • @JumgeSora
    @JumgeSora 3 месяца назад +22

    Waoh..... How Karan Thapar listened & how I watched this interview was like a good kid back in the days listening to grandparents story & folk tales. History was never boring when author hostorian like William Dalrypmle tells you in such an interesting & detailed like I was visting at that era of time. Such a fascinating & intresting interview. Learned & knew many new things about India's history with the world & the 3 roads. Thank you Karan Thapar for this interview & William Dalrymple for such wonderful effort for writing this book & many more contribution till date about Indian history. I'm getting this book now 🎉

    • @AmanRaj-kd1if
      @AmanRaj-kd1if 3 месяца назад

      Sorry to say history is not story pls don't mess with history in India people mess with this subject

    • @JumgeSora
      @JumgeSora 3 месяца назад +1

      @@AmanRaj-kd1if agaye

  • @soumimukherjee6748
    @soumimukherjee6748 3 месяца назад +13

    Brilliant…very rare that Karan allowed someone to speak and explain

    • @nagaratnanayak6259
      @nagaratnanayak6259 2 месяца назад

      Not only that ,he has deviated surprisingly from ill talking topics about India to positive

  • @anniemody
    @anniemody 3 месяца назад +36

    This interview is a historical masterpiece. Absolutely enjoyed it.

    • @manutrivedi5771
      @manutrivedi5771 3 месяца назад

      Terrible interview. You must have some really low standards.😂

    • @anniemody
      @anniemody 3 месяца назад +3

      @@manutrivedi5771 its evident you didn't understand any of it.

    • @wassuphomies263
      @wassuphomies263 3 месяца назад +3

      @@anniemody leave the troll. they must be believing in the ramayana atomic weapons.

  • @vikasshetty6156
    @vikasshetty6156 3 месяца назад +32

    Thank you Karan Thapar for this wonderful interview . Thank you William dalrymple for the wonderful book .

  • @ushahariharan3268
    @ushahariharan3268 3 месяца назад +27

    A book I Must read..Thank you William Dalrymple and Thank You Karan Thapparji for this discussion..Enlightening

    • @ss-ib8gm
      @ss-ib8gm 3 месяца назад +1

      Read Sanjeev sandal book too

    • @ss-ib8gm
      @ss-ib8gm 3 месяца назад

      Rajeev sanyal

    • @ram2ravanan987
      @ram2ravanan987 3 месяца назад

      @@ushahariharan3268 can some one tell book name ....which he mentioned 50.00 minute

    • @ushahariharan3268
      @ushahariharan3268 3 месяца назад

      @@ram2ravanan987 The Golden Road

  • @viswaghosh1
    @viswaghosh1 3 месяца назад +8

    Prof. D.P. Chattapadhyaya has done phenomenal historical research on ancient and medieval scientific achievements in South Asia.

  • @anilbhatt6780
    @anilbhatt6780 2 месяца назад +2

    We are fortunate that we have a Dalrymple to tell us about our great past. THANKYOU WIlliam

  • @Reincarnation111
    @Reincarnation111 3 месяца назад +14

    A very good confirmation and reiteration of truths about Bharat's unparalleled grand - but distant - past that we all have had some glimpses of although it was deliberately kept hidden from us by our invading rascals., and their goons. My question is that now that we are finding it out, what we plan to do with this knowledge? Just bask in its glory and pride forever ? Shouldn't we seriously try to recreate it and drive our nation out of poverty, social degradation and proliferating population? What happened to all that greatness? I am critical because we need to not dwell in the past, but move forward. and MIGA...Make India great Again! 🤩🤩

  • @manmohanmehta5697
    @manmohanmehta5697 3 месяца назад +5

    Fantastic interview like others by Karan. I do contribute for last two years.
    The author is really a painstaking researcher and deserves a lot of love and respect.

  • @handyman7147
    @handyman7147 Месяц назад +1

    This interview is not at all partisan. I liked it. Dalrymple has done a phenomenal job in making reading history enjoyable and captivating for ordinary people. Thank you for the wonderful work 🎉

  • @pushpendergusain4262
    @pushpendergusain4262 3 месяца назад +1

    Hats off to Karan Thapar for conducting this interesting and enlightening interview. Hats off to William Dalrymple for this wonderful work.

  • @dhanaazm7897
    @dhanaazm7897 3 месяца назад +58

    What am amazing interview! Mr. Thapar you are incredibly superior to all the teeny interviewers that are around. Mr. Dalrymple i have read your White Mughals and have been fascinated by it. Your work and your dedication to storytelling makes history fascinating and something to always look forward to eagerly. Thank you two giants. Your coming together shakes the senses lying stagnant in the present regime. Thank you. ❤

    • @adityabanerjee7145
      @adityabanerjee7145 3 месяца назад +5

      You called Thapar a giant...

    • @dhanaazm7897
      @dhanaazm7897 3 месяца назад +5

      Yes. Any problem?

    • @SrinivasRao-vd4ki
      @SrinivasRao-vd4ki 3 месяца назад +6

      Its not eloquency or command over language or knowledge that is important. It is your loyalty to the nation that is overridingly important. You know where his loyalties are. We know about his relative Romilla Thapar and her deliberate distortion of history and his father, a failed army general.

    • @sohailazim4275
      @sohailazim4275 3 месяца назад +1

      I even read White Mughal, and tbh, I really liked it so much and found it so amazing to read the sad story of a beautiful woman from a noble house of Hyderabad and her struggle after husband passed away, and specially bading farewell to her children to UK
      So disheartening 😢

    • @veteranas5564
      @veteranas5564 3 месяца назад +3

      @@dhanaazm7897. You say why there’s a problem in calling this Thapar a giant? Yes sir there’s a problem. This “giant” of yours had an aunt who belittled everything good that existed in the Indian civilisation while eulogising the greatness of Islamic invaders. This guy needs to be counted amongst the pygmies of our country.

  • @meghbanerjeemusic
    @meghbanerjeemusic 2 месяца назад

    I recently started reading this great historian... And honestly I am overwhelmed. Thank you Mr. William Darlymple for everything you are doing.

  • @vimalyogi
    @vimalyogi 2 месяца назад +1

    **"The talk between Karan and Dalrymple was marvelous. I thoroughly enjoyed it."**

  • @KrishnanNayar
    @KrishnanNayar 3 месяца назад +1

    This interview was a tour de force, one of the best I have ever come across!

  • @rkrishad
    @rkrishad 3 месяца назад +16

    This is what happens when India gains, self respect and economic prosperity. The point is that eating meat or not is just a cultural context . The basic philosophical ideas is what matters in the end. The idea of “ one truth but wise speak of it many ways “ Is the foundational idea .

  • @shantanushekharsjunerft9783
    @shantanushekharsjunerft9783 3 месяца назад +51

    In other news Arfa Khaanum has declared this book non secular and has shown Mr Dalrymple is a Sanghi 😂

    • @vvk594
      @vvk594 3 месяца назад +3

      She will get good salary increment from WIRE management.

    • @deepdive259
      @deepdive259 2 месяца назад

      😂

    • @arnipskumar3245
      @arnipskumar3245 2 месяца назад +1

      Truth is hard to digest by many.......Indians😅...it is our time again after 1000CE...

    • @rameshkhajuria4810
      @rameshkhajuria4810 Месяц назад

      Wha else can you expect from Ms. Arfa khanum.

  • @user-yb1fo6io6q
    @user-yb1fo6io6q 3 месяца назад +2

    I am going to buy immediately, thank you Karan for bringing William. I want you to this after 6 months in more detail, as we love to listen to William.

  • @rajenlama.6850
    @rajenlama.6850 3 месяца назад +4

    Jai Hind sir. It is the honour of India as reflectng the history of our Nation through the book " The Golden Road " written by William, he apparently through his book reminds the Indian history in terms of Hinduism, Buddhism and the spread of mathematical value across Asia and Europe. We must thank to such knowledgeable person for making such contribution which widen the eye of not only Indian but all over the world. May God give more strength to explore on many unknown facts in the world.

  • @anuradhainamdar8967
    @anuradhainamdar8967 3 месяца назад +7

    From interest in archeology in Mesopotamia William Dalymple has metamorphosed to a wonderful and in - depth writer of Indian History from its ancient roots to towards.

  • @THETRIVIALTHINGS
    @THETRIVIALTHINGS 3 месяца назад +35

    Damn! Karan Thapar has been doing some insanely good interviews recently.

  • @AnirimaGhosh
    @AnirimaGhosh 3 месяца назад +2

    Recommend everyone to read the book… it’s amazing… superbly written and not boring at all ❤❤❤❤

  • @suryaprakash72771
    @suryaprakash72771 3 месяца назад +31

    The Anarchy: The Relentless Rise of the East India Company and The Last Mughal: The Fall of Delhi, 1857 are among the best history books written by Dalrymple. Would love to read more books authored by him.

    • @Dadasahab1234
      @Dadasahab1234 3 месяца назад

      For more fun read Irfan Habib, Mridula Mukherjee.

    • @FreddieMurphy746
      @FreddieMurphy746 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Dadasahab1234Those books fall into the category of Propaganda, right?

    • @LulliKaatneWalaNabi
      @LulliKaatneWalaNabi 3 месяца назад

      ​@@FreddieMurphy746watch exmuslim sahil, Adam seeker, zafar heretic and quranwala

    • @suryaprakash72771
      @suryaprakash72771 3 месяца назад +2

      @@LulliKaatneWalaNabi I was recommended Mohammed Hijab, Shaykh Uthman, brother Hashim, Sabeel Ahmed and Ali Dawah. They’re really good in explaining things with facts and evidence.

    • @LulliKaatneWalaNabi
      @LulliKaatneWalaNabi 3 месяца назад +1

      @@suryaprakash72771 sahi keh rahe ho, momo ko wahi choti ammi ke kapde pehanne ke baad hi aati thi

  • @ashokpeer5490
    @ashokpeer5490 3 месяца назад +5

    Excellent book - it gave me a high being an Indian for right reason

  • @avx4281
    @avx4281 3 месяца назад +6

    Wonderful interview. Very informative and enjoyable. Thank u mr. Thapar and mr Dalrymple.

  • @MAR-lt7xo
    @MAR-lt7xo 3 месяца назад +7

    Desperately waiting for this dialogue in this new book, and it is here!

  • @madhurisardar1284
    @madhurisardar1284 Месяц назад

    What Fascinating Stuff ! 👌👌👌
    Thank you Mr. Darlymple ,
    for your
    Deep Insight ‘ into Ancient India ,and its Glorious Past, and for narrating it with such Honesty , Passion ,and Unbiassed View Point. 🙏
    And Mr. Karan Thaper for Navigating the Conversation with equal Diligence !👌👌🙏
    Learned a Lot from your Conversation today. 😊
    Will certainly Buy this Book soon. 👍

  • @rahultadwalkar6353
    @rahultadwalkar6353 3 месяца назад +22

    Yesterday I received my copy. ❤

  • @RishabhSharma-q5w
    @RishabhSharma-q5w 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for this discussion Karan. I have ordered the book immediately :) It is important to know, at least for me, where I come from.

  • @rocketsinghism
    @rocketsinghism 3 месяца назад +11

    I've read many books by him, they're amazing amalgamation of history, cilture & tourism, would love to read it too!!!

  • @siddave549
    @siddave549 3 месяца назад +26

    Karan Thapar finally found someone who spoke good of India and Hindus!

    • @deepakrau6933
      @deepakrau6933 3 месяца назад +6

      Not the Present Hindu

    • @sooraj949
      @sooraj949 3 месяца назад

      ​@@deepakrau6933
      Who's that? 😂

    • @bhaskarmenon839
      @bhaskarmenon839 3 месяца назад

      he kinda low key always does...

    • @mvmansingka
      @mvmansingka 3 месяца назад

      @@bhaskarmenon839
      The present Hindu is an antidote to the Woke and liberals

    • @Oceansta
      @Oceansta 3 месяца назад +3

      Problem with people like you is that you can't view facts as facts - but as opinions.
      You're better off on some Godi channel.

  • @abhijitgchavan
    @abhijitgchavan Месяц назад +1

    Whattay lovely structuring of narratives Karan!
    Love Williams work as always. Extremely insightful and scholarly b

  • @sdasgupta1950
    @sdasgupta1950 3 месяца назад +14

    Karan, stop interrupting. The audience can understand all the nuances with all the complexities.

  • @shirishpanwalkar
    @shirishpanwalkar 3 месяца назад

    This interview is an absolute feast for our ears and brains. Thank you so much Karan sir and William sir 🙏👍

  • @manjushriprakash7100
    @manjushriprakash7100 3 месяца назад

    The interview was instructive and entertaining. This book is an important contribution to the social history of India. Thank you very much.

  • @selvakumar1972
    @selvakumar1972 2 месяца назад +3

    Even in India they are not glorifying the South Indian dynasty and its trade, especially the archeological exploration, literature and culture

  • @kavilphilip
    @kavilphilip 3 месяца назад +6

    The black pepper, speices and good steel from south of India was very popular. Along with Gujarat ports, Kerala ports was key to major chunk of Business. Even now the roman coins are digged out. Large Jewish presence reported 2500 years in South..

    • @thewhatorwhy
      @thewhatorwhy 3 месяца назад +1

      Some of those Jewish descendants are now Christians. But the ones who remained Jews left for Israel, US ...

  • @rutnambavan4596
    @rutnambavan4596 3 месяца назад +1

    Good interview, Karan Thapar. I wish it had been longer, without interruptions from your side. Your audience is capable of understanding what William Dalrymple is saying. As someone who is not a historian but is fascinated by the subject, could you kindly include historians and archaeologists who are working in South India, especially in Tamil Nadu, to share their perspectives on recent findings in Keeladi etc., and the need to rewrite the historically North-centric narrative to be more balanced? There is the fact after all that the new digs at Keeladi have pushed the Sangam period further back revealing many new concepts. You may even want to forward this comment to William Dalrymple with the hope that he will turn his attention to this topic and pay greater attention to what went on in the South and maybe write a scholarly tome. Thanks!

  • @jpc2861
    @jpc2861 3 месяца назад +35

    Karan is so disappointed to see the greatness of ancient Hindu India which he is so despised and he cannot reconcile

    • @cinefile0075
      @cinefile0075 Месяц назад +1

      Not Hindu actually but budhhist. Aryabhatta studied in nalanda which was budhhist monastery..

    • @Nonamejhsja
      @Nonamejhsja Месяц назад +1

      @@cinefile0075 built by the Hindu (vaishnava) Gupta empire and Hindu Kumargupta

    • @cinefile0075
      @cinefile0075 Месяц назад +1

      @@Nonamejhsja I am talking about education and knowledge from when he learned. It was Buddhist monastry..

  • @Tucsonjude
    @Tucsonjude Месяц назад

    Wonderful work, it confirms that which I have always suspected! I just pre-ordered the book and subscribed to this channel. Great content!

  • @dishantgrewal3719
    @dishantgrewal3719 3 месяца назад

    thanks karan sir for an amazing interview

  • @SwatantraNandanwar
    @SwatantraNandanwar 3 месяца назад +19

    Before Dalrymple there was Nehru: The Discovery of India which was the seminal work.

  • @Spashth
    @Spashth 3 месяца назад

    I have to buy this book after this interview. William, this was not an interview, it was a performance. Outstanding I’m just thinking how interesting the book would be.

  • @snair8448
    @snair8448 2 месяца назад +1

    The Wire must interview Bhaskar’s Kamble on his book, The Imperishable Seed: How Hindu Mathematics Changed the World and why this History was Erased! It’s a great follow up to Dalrymple’ book.

  • @nilimadas9143
    @nilimadas9143 3 месяца назад

    William Dalrymple has his facts on his fingertips and an invigorating style of his own.A must read to fill up our gaps in knowledge about our own history.

  • @ranganathanv5365
    @ranganathanv5365 3 месяца назад

    Brilliantly harnessing the knowledge and exuberance of Darlymple as only Karan Thapar can

  • @JatinderSingh-ie6wq
    @JatinderSingh-ie6wq 3 месяца назад

    Pleased to hear a big historian's praise for Karan Thapar's diligence

  • @nandanpandit5456
    @nandanpandit5456 3 месяца назад +32

    "Don't get lost in the details!" says Thapar when William talks about his relative/ancestor. Thapar, we are more interested in listening to William's 'ramblings' than your interview.
    Also loved how William makes a point against Marxist historians of India (just before the outburst above). That must have bothered Karan Thapar, considering how he is related to the grandmother of all Marxist historians, Romila Thapar.
    Also funny to see some comments here cautioning people about "Hindu hypernationalism". Classic example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Funniest, though, is someone saying that a lot of it is "conjecture". If anything, William is being conservative about India's influence. Crazy to see such reactions.

    • @lakshaybhardwaj2862
      @lakshaybhardwaj2862 3 месяца назад +7

      What can we expect from him and his regular audience. I have lost respect for almost all journalists (except maybe Saurabh) who have been consumed by their ideology so much (either left or right) that they can't bear to see the other side of things. You're right though, this interview will trigger some people obviously as it shows a positive and powerful Indian influence for a change. I highly doubt Karan would've even invited anyone like William if he wasn't a white person (telling us about our history) because anyone talking about this is immediately branded a far-from-reality-andh-bhakt on this platform if he/she is brown.

    • @kamalverma4641
      @kamalverma4641 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@lakshaybhardwaj2862You can write fairly long passages and seem to be well educated but you lack common sense. rg

    • @lakshaybhardwaj2862
      @lakshaybhardwaj2862 3 месяца назад +4

      @@kamalverma4641 you see, you seem to be under the impression that you have some superior intellect that gives you the authority to decide who lacks 'common sense' and who doesn't, that itself reflects bad on your common sense score.

    • @kamalverma4641
      @kamalverma4641 3 месяца назад +1

      @@lakshaybhardwaj2862 Tum yar koi book, article wagera likho, about Hindu khatre mei hai, kyo apni khopdi jala rahe ho.

    • @ChackraTantra
      @ChackraTantra 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@kamalverma4641 you can't write long passages and don't seem very educated, and you also lack common sense!😅

  • @N-zt5ys
    @N-zt5ys 3 месяца назад +30

    This is like pouring hot molten lead into Thapar’s and Siddarth Vardarajan’s ears.

    • @sankardevc
      @sankardevc 3 месяца назад +1

      hahahaha so true , of course their friend Romila shattered

    • @buntysingh3166
      @buntysingh3166 3 месяца назад

      That was super funny comment .. I can literally visualize the hot molten lea going through Thapar's ears !!!

    • @devadaspai9199
      @devadaspai9199 2 месяца назад +1

      The above names which you have mentioned are the great haters of indian culture. Because of such type of people British made their roadways in india.

    • @nagaratnanayak6259
      @nagaratnanayak6259 2 месяца назад

      So true.When I saw the topic,I assumed there will be anything but good about India,only because the interviewer is Karan Thapar

    • @nowwhat6716
      @nowwhat6716 Месяц назад +1

      Just because they don't agree with ur ideology

  • @srinuisnow
    @srinuisnow 3 месяца назад

    Great interview, great topic, fine author. Thank you very much. 🙏

  • @jaijoshi5876
    @jaijoshi5876 3 месяца назад +7

    Karan’s own sister Romila Thapar,a Marxist historian assigned by Congress Govts played a pivotal in putting down India’s and Hindu’s incredible achievements and influence.She completely doctored academia history books glorifying only Mughals and invaders,at the same time erasing Hindu resistance and bravery in face of horrendous attacks on our culture,way of life and temples.History will never forgive the likes of Romila Thapar

    • @Arcmid
      @Arcmid 3 месяца назад +1

      Not sister but Aunt. Even Shurpaneka would be considered an angel compared to the witch Romila

    • @taitreyarr2715
      @taitreyarr2715 3 месяца назад +1

      Romila Thapar is one of those historians that have had their life's work torn apart and thrown in their face while still alive.

    • @Oceansta
      @Oceansta 3 месяца назад

      I don't know what books you were raised on, but in our school years, there was no glorification of any Mughals even though India reached the zenith of economic prosperity under Aurangxeb @ 25% of global GDP

    • @Oceansta
      @Oceansta 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@taitreyarr2715by who?

  • @jaijoshi5876
    @jaijoshi5876 3 месяца назад +22

    I suggest Karan to send this interview to his own sister Romila Thapar so that she can feel an iota of shame for writing skewed history to show both Bharat and Hindus in poor light.

    • @ratnadeepsharma964
      @ratnadeepsharma964 3 месяца назад +6

      please read romila thapar first

    • @sumit92artist
      @sumit92artist 3 месяца назад +3

      Have you ever read Any of her work?
      Read first and then comment.

    • @jaijoshi5876
      @jaijoshi5876 3 месяца назад

      @@sumit92artist Her work is as rotten as rotten tomatoes.She is a Congi stooge who was tasked to twist the history to suit agenda of Congress and Marxists.

    • @Oceansta
      @Oceansta 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@sumit92artist the guy is spamming the comments with the same thing over and over again 😅

    • @arnipskumar3245
      @arnipskumar3245 2 месяца назад +1

      Thapar, Habib, Sharma...been exposed a while ago...not just by WDarlymple...but many local historians...already.

  • @ginger22ly
    @ginger22ly 3 месяца назад

    Beautiful interview all round. Thanks. Good energy on both sides.

  • @sonamtenzin2886
    @sonamtenzin2886 3 месяца назад +1

    Really informative.. I will surely get the book and read it.. thank you...

  • @Bertie.athenaeum
    @Bertie.athenaeum 3 месяца назад +29

    So now that we finally have a stamp of approval of a "gora" scholar, let's hope the world will really recognise India's historical importance.
    Although this in no means is a criticism of Mr. Dalrymple. He is an Indian at heart who has written numerous volumes recounting detailed historical accounts about the cruelty of the East India Company.

    • @pranav210591
      @pranav210591 3 месяца назад

      The world acknowledges india's contribution way more than what we assume. All the 'knowledge' was already lying forgotten by the time western indologists came. But yes, the world is not going to acknowledge obvious nonsense like ancient spacecrafts and nuclear weapons.😂

    • @xcel5203
      @xcel5203 3 месяца назад

      Mr Wooster aren't you an Englishman too , atleast as far as your name is concerned ?

    • @Bertie.athenaeum
      @Bertie.athenaeum 3 месяца назад +6

      @@xcel5203 WOW!! No. I'm not. "Bertie" is an inside joke in my family. And I picked the name "Athenaeum" basing it on Aristotle's academy "Lyceum" which was named after the Apollo Lyceus, the site where the Peripatetic school of philosophy was founded by Aristotle in 334 BC. I named it after Athena, the goddess of knowledge, as I'm a student of Physics & Mathematics. I wanted the name of the channel to be something like "Sharda Peeth" but I didn't pick it because I don't think I could be deserving of the name "Sharda Peeth" (which happens to be the first mutt established by Adi Sankara).
      So, to answer in short, I'm very much an Indian, although I would agree due to my upbringing, English has been somewhat my "lingua dilectus".
      Also, even if I was an englishman how would that make my point any less valuable, which was that somehow the west always accepts things about India when someone from the west attests it, even when Indian scholars have been screaming the same things at the top of their lungs!
      I was literally mocking the west's bias!

  • @ksgopal21
    @ksgopal21 2 месяца назад

    Mr,william Darlymple ,you did a great job, congratulation.

  • @jackyfernandes8803
    @jackyfernandes8803 2 месяца назад

    Wonderful interview i am buying this book

  • @rajuiyer6753
    @rajuiyer6753 3 месяца назад

    Fascinating interview.
    Learnt a lot.

  • @shyamalthakkar2965
    @shyamalthakkar2965 29 дней назад

    This interview has compiled me to buy this book and read it back tu back

  • @harisimransandhu4473
    @harisimransandhu4473 3 месяца назад +6

    Great interaction. Sometimes, Karan tends to interrupt at the wrong time, disrupting the flow for no obvious reason

    • @sibeshbhattacharya9431
      @sibeshbhattacharya9431 3 месяца назад +2

      That's his habit; he is arrogant , thinks no end of himself.

    • @AshishBijalwan05
      @AshishBijalwan05 3 месяца назад +1

      It is frustrating to see him trying to control the guest. It seems whenever something is said by the guest which does not match his ideology, he feels frustrated and wants to change the flow of the conversation. I don't know, it is his age or ideology, he seems to behave more like a novice rather than a journalist who has been in the business for decades.

    • @RAMESH-js9lc
      @RAMESH-js9lc 3 месяца назад +2

      This is what the saffron brigade has been shouting hoarse all along.
      This was never in the History text books that children got to read.
      Mughal rule and a bit of British raj was all the History that was presented as Indian History.

  • @ravidarya3126
    @ravidarya3126 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you Dalrymple for telling the true India story. Hope Romila Thapar reads your book and gets wiser even at this age.

  • @sbdesai11223
    @sbdesai11223 3 месяца назад +3

    Karan shouldn't interrupt. It diverts what the main person wants to say.
    MAIN POINT: William was mentioning about Maccaulay's misdemeanors, around the 9th minute. Karan made him side step that. Not fair at all. William was honestly saying somethinh important.

  • @dyalsaraswati3915
    @dyalsaraswati3915 3 месяца назад +23

    INDIA IS LORD BUDHA AND LORD BUDHA IS INDIA

    • @Truth-z9r
      @Truth-z9r 3 месяца назад

      🎊

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 3 месяца назад +1

      But budhha is anti brahmin....

    • @Pinku-k4e
      @Pinku-k4e 3 месяца назад +9

      Really? I thought Lord Rama was Bharat and Bharat was Lord Rama. If, I remember my history, it was the Buddhists who showed Mohammed bin Qasim how to get the better of Raja Dahir in Sindh, opening the gates for Islam to come flooding in, putting an end to Buddhism in Bharat and compelling it to spread outward. 🇮🇱♥️🇮🇳

    • @TheoSophii
      @TheoSophii 3 месяца назад +1

      Islam was not spread by invaders. Your whimsical thoughts about Islam are caused by your prejudiced mindset. ​@@Pinku-k4e

    • @111_N0_0ne
      @111_N0_0ne 3 месяца назад +3

      India is and was Hindu, so does Prince Siddharth and his father. Hope you won't find it hard to understand the obvious...

  • @amitbarc
    @amitbarc 2 месяца назад

    What fascinating & enriching intvw...again rekindled my love for history !!

  • @Harsaran
    @Harsaran 3 месяца назад

    Great interview. So much fun

  • @aryankarki7900
    @aryankarki7900 Месяц назад

    Namaskar from Nepal 🇳🇵🙏🙏🙏.

  • @petervaz765
    @petervaz765 3 месяца назад

    An excellent interview - Thank you

  • @sandersdev
    @sandersdev 2 месяца назад

    He is an inspiration to many youtubers who are making a career out of India.

  • @mintusaren895
    @mintusaren895 3 месяца назад

    Awaited.

  • @alkag1726
    @alkag1726 3 месяца назад

    Loved the interview. Have ordered the book.

  • @geethapandurangan7894
    @geethapandurangan7894 2 месяца назад

    True thank you for bringing this to the frontview Mr William Darlymple. This is very enlightening as least 1000 years has been invaded and stolen and massacred golden history is lost. Thank you for throwing so much light on the history. I do recollect in tamil literature there is plentiful mention of romans and trade with rome.

  • @kbunni3262
    @kbunni3262 3 месяца назад

    Great interview,👌 marred sadly by ad after ad! The price one must pay! Looking forward to reading the book!

  • @sajithomas2158
    @sajithomas2158 3 месяца назад +1

    Mr Thappers Questions are at the bulls eye!

    • @shankar1dynamo694
      @shankar1dynamo694 3 месяца назад

      And the bull gave a kick to his liberal butt😂

  • @udhabakoushalia7194
    @udhabakoushalia7194 3 месяца назад

    Very good talk and discuss..❤

  • @vijaykhe
    @vijaykhe 3 месяца назад

    Got it today and am looking forward

  • @SatyendraNathOjha
    @SatyendraNathOjha 3 месяца назад

    Wonderful interview on the wonder that was india

  • @Sahith_Reddy-k2l
    @Sahith_Reddy-k2l 2 месяца назад +1

    Karan, Tamil merchants were the first to reach the shores of South East Asia. They established their trade network and then they brought South Brahmins and Buddhists along with them on their merchant ships.

  • @amareshhirey3213
    @amareshhirey3213 3 месяца назад

    The book provides a well-articulated historical perspective, yet it overlooks one of India’s most significant modern contributions to the world: the global spread of yoga. In the current and previous centuries, yoga has transcended geographical and cultural boundaries, reaching not only the East but virtually every part of the world. So widespread is its influence that yoga today often feels less distinctly Indian. However, I believe that by the end of this century, yoga’s influence will deepen further as it expands to include broader spiritual practices beyond asanas, pranayama, and meditation. This evolution will likely solidify India’s cultural and spiritual impact on a global scale

  • @Curiosity1220
    @Curiosity1220 2 месяца назад +2

    The reason why you don't see the caste system in Southeast Asia is because it wasn't Hinduism at all. It was vajrayana, or tantric Buddhism. William Dalrymple also mentions women brahmin playing an important role in southeast Asia, but you don't get to see women brahmin performing yagyas or acting as priests in the Hindu wedding. On the contrary, you find women bhikkunis playing an important role such as teachers in Buddhism, and there is archaeological evidence of women studying Buddhism at Nalanda University.
    The visnu you see is not the Hindu visnu; it's the Bodhisatva visnu. The Brahmins such as Aryabhatta or Brahmagupta are not the Brahmins of today, but Buddhist monks who attained arhat were called brahmins. The brahmins of Buddhism did not belong to any caste or varna because the varna system did not exist back then, or, let's say, the varna system does not exist in Buddhism or Sramanic culture, which is the original culture of the Indian subcontinent.

  • @NeshHuvan
    @NeshHuvan 3 месяца назад +9

    India's rich past should inspire progress, but true development requires focusing on building an equitable and sustainable future by addressing structural challenges. The IPL serves as a microcosm of India's development, showcasing world-class success in business and entertainment while highlighting persistent issues like inequality and governance. Its success underscores India's potential, but also the need for inclusive growth that benefits the entire population, not just the elite few-a reflection of where India stands today.

  • @anitacohen8753
    @anitacohen8753 2 месяца назад

    I always admired VS Naipaul. He said it like it is!

  • @senguptasayn
    @senguptasayn 3 месяца назад +1

    City of Djinns remains a favourite.very good penmanship.looking forward to this one.

  • @tituthakur6063
    @tituthakur6063 2 дня назад

    Very enlightening!!!

  • @nagaiahgovindarajalu8110
    @nagaiahgovindarajalu8110 3 месяца назад

    splendid interview

  • @RahulVZM
    @RahulVZM 3 месяца назад

    its a bliss to listen to William. would like to learn more from the book.

  • @danielsar1001
    @danielsar1001 3 месяца назад +20

    Read the book. Absolute joy. Filled me with a sense of pride. I feel sorry for Mr. Thapar that he has to digest admiration of India by a foreigner in his show. Had it been an Indian he would have straightway termed him a bhakt.

    • @NandaKumar-bx8qc
      @NandaKumar-bx8qc 3 месяца назад

      Exactly!! an oxford bred almost Britisher Karan listening to things he should know about his own country!!!!

    • @saravinds1992
      @saravinds1992 3 месяца назад +1

      @@NandaKumar-bx8qcI can’t speak for Karan, bur when we listen to Wiliam speak it is not because we dont know anything on this subject, but rather a curiosity on what has been documented/archived and available for verification. A new knowledge on India becomes hard to come by and is mired with a lot of chest-thumping especially the social media era. It’s good to listen to absolute facts just for a change!

    • @orientalshorthair5579
      @orientalshorthair5579 3 месяца назад +5

      I disagree with your estimate of Mr. Thapar. Dalyrmple provides solid evidence and proof backed by serious scholarship. Thapar understands and appreciates this and so accords him the respect due. Had an Indian done the same, instead of making wild, unfounded and indeed laughable claims (as bhakts tend to do), he'd have listened to him too. You do them both a disservice by such a comment.

  • @debmohapatra4189
    @debmohapatra4189 3 месяца назад

    Excellent interview.

  • @R_Sambasivam
    @R_Sambasivam 3 месяца назад

    Wonderful discussion

  • @Sarthakkumarpal
    @Sarthakkumarpal 3 месяца назад

    Fascinating interview and a page turner...

  • @pardeeptandon
    @pardeeptandon 3 месяца назад +1

    50 years after the death of Ashoka the Great, a Buddhist king around 200 BC, a BRAHNMIN king, Pushyamitra Shunga, banished all Buddhists from India to the mountains, and he committed genocide against Buddhists. He destroyed all Buddhist Viharas and converted them to Hindu temples. He placed a price of 2 gold coins on the head of every monk presented to him.
    Brahmins have done more religious discrimination than Muslims did in India.
    I wonder if the present-day Sangis are willing to give back all Buddhist Viharas to them as they expect Muslim Mosques to become Hindu temples?
    The Hinduism that spread to SE Asia was the Dravadian version, not the Brahmichal-dominated Sanatana Dharma. The Vedic Verna Avastha and later the Manu Smriti laws implementing the Caste system do not exist in SE Asian countries.
    The Japanese Buddhists recently offered to finance and build a Buddhist tourist circuit in India. But the racist Brahmins of the RSS variety did not allow them.

  • @srinisbir8781
    @srinisbir8781 2 месяца назад +1

    Hope Karan Thapar's cousin, Romila Thapar, had done a tith of research about India compared to what William Dalrymple has done as an outsider. Kudos to you sir!

  • @vish2ual
    @vish2ual 3 месяца назад

    Interesting discussion indeed

  • @arupsarkar2509
    @arupsarkar2509 3 месяца назад

    His first book I read: Nine Lives: In search of sacred in modern India. In 2009. It was amazing.

  • @KP-py5ih
    @KP-py5ih Месяц назад

    Thapar is a gem.

  • @whaddoiknow6519
    @whaddoiknow6519 2 месяца назад

    Dalrymple is spot on in so many ways. Indians undermine themselves when they make ludicrous claims about lasers and the internet, and want to award Masters degrees in Maths for the study of "Vedic Mathematics." They think at a strange kind of angle to reality. Even now for example, I would love to see a serious project to study the work of Madhava and the Kerala school of Astronomy. Because it is too much for a single person, there should be a team of experts -- in history, in the geography of Kerala, in the religious practices and sensibilities of the time and place, in Malyalam, Sanskrit, Astronomy, Mathematics, all collaborating to collectively understand the Kerala school's towering achievement. Is something like underway? My understanding is that it is not. Instead we get chest thumping about Guru-Shishya parampara and so on.

  • @sahachem01
    @sahachem01 3 месяца назад +6

    Thanks to Lutyens historian and reporter (including Karan) that we had to wait so long to get this facts discussed and debated….but glad that it’s becoming increasingly difficult to deny even for them.

  • @kmhuque5485
    @kmhuque5485 3 месяца назад +1

    Stories of our past lay hid plainly in sight.
    None to hear, none to care, they lay in despair
    Till they came from afar, brought them to light.
    Asked they:
    Did you not know tales of your ancient glory?
    No, we said, all we need are stories that are holy.
    Hence, my fellow-subcontinentals, blame whoever you want for our sorry state😥, but look at ourselves first.

  • @nagaiahgovindarajalu8110
    @nagaiahgovindarajalu8110 3 месяца назад

    Thank the host
    and the author of the said
    book
    misguided history
    great service to
    humanity

  • @lifeasislife
    @lifeasislife 3 месяца назад

    6:19 Karan ji says "India did not blow its own trumpet.." but he forgets that when ever any one spoke of India, he is loudly shutting them up 🤣😝