Credit where credit is due. Unlike the then defence minister, AK Antony, throwing in the towel that too in the Indian parliament, Modi actually stood strong against China. In terms of defense spending, we should also see the absolutes. Tanks and Fighter jets are NOT winning you the war these days. It's the era of UAVs, ARROWs and miniature ammunitions. We need a modern era defense Industry. Modi Govt needs to urgently address this gap. Tax breaks, corridors and favorable policies needed.
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@@JohnAbraham-gh6dzThis guy is a genius of a special kind. He will justify any move by Modi ji. He will see absolute terms for Modi era, but what about absolute terms for 2013 incomparison of 2003? UPA was spending way more than 2003. Actually he will praise Modi ji for his statement on giving a clean chit to China. He is great like Modi ji.
It's true that India's military budget as a percentage of GDP has stayed almost flat, but in absolute numbers, it’s increasing every year. There are several reasons behind the flattening of the defense budget: 1) India heavily relied on Russia for its weapon imports. However, due to the Russia-Ukraine war and Russia's shortage of weaponry, India hasn’t been able to make any major purchases from Russia in the last four years. The last significant deal was for the S-400 missiles. Therefore, if you are not procuring anything worth billions of dollars, why would the defense budget increase? 2) The new emphasis on 'Make in India' has dramatically altered procurement processes. The Indian armed forces will need some time to adapt to these changes, especially given the strong import lobby within India. 3) India requires highly advanced technology that it currently lacks, such as 5th-generation fighter jets, deck-based fighters, hypersonic missiles, nuclear submarines, and AIP (Air-Independent Propulsion) submarines. These technologies are challenging to acquire or develop and take time to build domestically. 4) The import lobby within India’s defense sector is still very influential. For instance, in the procurement of assault rifles, there was no real need to import SIG-716s or AK-203s since we already have solid local options. Similarly, we’re replacing Tata WhAPs with U.S.-made Strykers due to this lobby, often resulting in wasted time and resources. Yes, India’s defense budget could be higher; it's not as low as it seems. However, complex issues beyond just budget limitations are also at play here.
If India can go to the Moon, why can't it build its own defence equipment? All we have to do is increase our budget for Defence R&D manifold and not on importing it. Today, even Mulla-run Iran can sell its weapon-carrying Drones to Russia while we still import them. Our MAKE ON INDIA has been a big Jummla. The Sangie Bania country has made our country a trading country rather than a manufacturing country. Causing massive unemployment in India.
Yeah nice coping to defend the government 1) Not just the defense budget as the percentage of GDP has stayed flat or worse declined, as a percentage of government budget it has nosedived. It started declining by 2017 where it was 18 percent then really cratered after 2019 and now it's 13 percent. This is many years before the russo-ukraine war even started. And the meager absolute increase you are talking about is to barely cope with the inflation and accounts to no real increase Secondly we don't just buy from Russia, besides the S400 deal was worth 5.4 billion out of a total 21 billion capital expenditure budget so you don't need to increase the budget to accommodate the s400 deal. Your logic is absurd. To understand the gravity of situation let's talk in numbers. In 2014-15 FY the armed forces required capital outlay for modernisation of 1,32,597.69 crore but the government allotted just Rs 84,076.95 crore. In 2021 the requirement from armed forces was Rs 1,99,553.44 crore but the govt allotted Rs 1,23,000.22 crore, an amount less than what the Services had sought in 2014. This is all from government's own reply in rajyasabha. 2) historically if you see domestic equipment have the shortest procurement cycle. Compare LCA MK1A deal to MMRCA, p75i to other domestic ships projects, pinaka etc. And r&d projects have nothing to do with regular defense budget. So this is a poor excuse. Defense acquisition procedure 2020 has 6 categories of acquisition and only one or two comes under total domestic development. So what stops other categories? Blinded by the incessant need to defend modi you can't even get the facts right which are in open.
@pardeeptandon Bureaucratic change is intangible, Indian style of democracy will involve great political determination will not get the support of politicians and the people. Because they are nothing to show to the people that something is being done. Infrastructure and political reform have to be done at the same time. But if there is only one choice. The choice is obvious.
@@wionporky9937 : We are still administrated by the same Bureaucratic structure which the Britishers set up to loot India and make it a Pauper state from the second largest economy we were during n era. We should scrap the entire Bureaucratic system we have and Reform it if we have to progress.
@vanguard123-k3h: This Bureaucratic structure was imposed on us By Brits to loot us still continues. The entire structure needs to be put in dustbin. a New administrative structure has to put in place. They make sure no good policy is implemented on the ground. The Chinese PSU can sell Diwali lights to us but our Bureaucrats insure that even our private enterprises can not compete with them as our Bureaucracy imposes crazy rules.
I’m no defense expert, but my understanding of data science says percentage of total GDP should not reflect the spending. We should also consider growth in GDP, spending in different sectors (like pension vs purchasing imported items vs production of local items), income via defense exports, and most importantly leakage due to corruption.
Even if you ignore the GDP percentage the defense budget as percentage of government budget has nosedived since 2018 from 18% to 13% now. And you completely forgot inflation which eats away any meager increase.
Future wars will be fought by drones as is already evident from Ukraine war and Israel/Iran war. India needs to urgently learn from Ukraine war and stop investing in 1. Aircraft careers (too expensive for our budget, 2 we have are enough). Aircraft careers have no defense against hypersonic missiles and we have Andaman and Laksdeep as unsinkable aircraft carriers, building air strip on each and every island of Andaman and Laksdeep will be less expensive than an aircraft carrier And start investing in 1. Drones, FPV, Suicide drones, including terrain mapping AI enabled drones (lots of them). Marine drones. 2. Self propelled artillery as they are less susceptible to drone attacks due to their fast moving capability. 3. MANPADS, MANPATS (Perfect to stop Chinese aggression in Himalayas and gruella warfare against better armed Chinese military) 4. Missiles (we have them and need to ramp up the production and build more production capabilities, ramp in the private sector). We need hundreds of thousands of SAM's and saturate North East with them. 5. Most important Gepard type self-propelled anti-aircraft anti-drone gun (only practical defense against drones including AI drones) . We need at least 50,000 of them manufactured in India and deployed all across the border to stop surveillance drones, smuggling drones and also the armed drones in case of war against China 6. Submarines, a lot of them. They are stealth killers, if we have 500 of them, no navy will dare to challenge us in Indian Ocean. Quality is not as important as quantity when it comes to Submarines. We don't need so many nuclear submarines, we need a lot of ordinary submarines to block Malacca strait and Andaman sea
Main thing is submarine vs aircraft carrier is one if defensive while other is an offensive weapon. You cannot project power with submarines, india sees itself as a power projector in IOR.
@@siddharthgoyal4008 you can project power by torpedoing any ship you want to withdraw a submarine, if India gets a 100 subs we can dominate all ocean
that is a bizarre take...Aircraft carrier project power in the seas. A war with China would involve shipping lanes and a carrier is great for that as well as launching multiprong attacks. Drones are great but you need to reach the attack points and a carrier can achieve that from the sea.
SG has the courage to expose the truth so that the country can rectify any shortfalls. Unlike the main stream media who is only doing wah wah of the ruling party.
If I've to guess it's day, By Modi fans coz he's historically been a reporter fromCongress camp. Now from Congress fans maybe coz he doesn't seem to be supporting Congress anymore.
@@mg.f.9023 The same SG who doesn't want to call a failed son of an ex pm a loser, was happy to call the haryana CM a 'loser' some 10 times that too with absolute disdain, "before" the haryana election. After the eggs on his face and the omlette were eaten, he had nothing good to say about the winner :)
Bruh this coupta was writing coup stories in 2011, 12. He was accusing gen VK Singh chief of the Indian army. Routine military exercise was termed as a coup attempt by sekhar coupta. Allegedly he was doing all this on the behalf of p Chidambaram, and the target was army chief.
India needs to implement economic reforms, asap to raise GDP growth rate from 7% (new Hindu rate, as you say), to 10%. The fact that we haven't developed political concensus on these, is also used by China to denounce the idea of democracy, which they blame as the reason for India being left behind. Either political parties need to come together, or voters have to get out of their biases, to encourage the parties they support, to support the reforms. In cases, like these, people and parties have to put national interests over immediate power games, and blame games. I don't know how they will achieve it, but creative politics is needed, whosoever it maybe from.
Why 10? Not 15? And Hindu growth rate is a racist term. Don’t be stupid like Nehru. The opposition can’t shut up over even small issues forget the things we need for 10% growth.
@@rajx7120 Be careful what you wish for. India is the world's fastest growing large economy. That means 7% is more than decent in the current era where most countries are struggling with budget controls. If we artificially try to heat up the economy, we may end up with uncontrollable inflation. The best approach is to move in a clandestine manner and introduce reforms in a phased manner to prevent shocks.
Usually I am a trenchant critic of Shekhar Gupta but this is one of the few episodes where I wholeheartedly agree with him. Thanks for your perspective
Sir, you and your team are just Amazing.. What Analysis , one of the best Cut the Clutter videos.. I come from a Defence background and I was amazed with the actual data points you highlighted.. Hats off..
Indian power differential with China will peak around 2030 and will remain static after that. PLA will field 1000 5 gen fighters by 2035, so will Pakistan. By sheer timelines we are screwed whether MRFA, SSN or Conventional subs, tankers, Awaacs. So play it nice, stay vigilant and balalnce externally. Develop your own defence industry and spend on research.
Extremely important topic and great data points. There is no way India can afford to diminish its defence spending to expose itself even to a tiny vulnerable. Large scale wars might not happen in foreseeable future, however we should not let adversaries poke here and there and have fun. Economically we are now enough capable to upgrade our forces.
Disagree with Mr. Gupta on one point - the latest India-Tibet border standoff is not due to capability gaps or capacity gaps. Its a gap in intention - CCP is clear that they want Kashmiri to be split between China and Pakistan are only moving towards that aim. What do we want? What steps are we taking? Whis aren't we taking proactive steps to reclaim our territory... Why are peace deals only to be followed by us and not the other?
I have intention to take your jet aircraft but lack capability. 😂 jokes apart, It's capability which mattes and cannot change overnight, intentions change overnight. It takes decades building airforce and a century building the Navy. Sir, you are a green horn don't question veterans like SG. Enjoy. 🎉
Defence expenditure during congress rule was only to tge extent of funding requirement of the firangi family. Congress party was a corrupt version of colonial enemy that ruled india! They had no national interest. Like colonialists and like current Canada the party was turing india's diversity as a means to exploit public sentiments by their caste -relogious sectarian politics making it appear 'secularism'. Had congress been in power, india would have become starkly poor, only this famiky would have become richer... Would not have let indian capital investment perform unless the family was funded. Ememy rule continued through congress government. As colonialists. They too used divide & rule as a strategy! By wisdom of indian citizens they have not come to power! Only sectarians and casteists vote for them now!
Why is there always the philosophy of wishing away the problems so evident in these matters with us, no matter how hard we may want the Chinese to be the nice and decent neighbour they are our biggest competitors at the least and any complacency in relation to them will prove really costly in the coming times.
It's a victory of every Indian citizen under the able leadership of Modi ji. Happy to see The Print has recognized Modi's contribution. Jai Hind!🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Feku moron only cost us more bcoz of his laal ankh. Chineese forced a lot of resources to be moved to defence which could have been used for development. We still are no match for china
@@krishnaprasadsannidhi8288 Yeah, no other PM has ever gave clean chit to China. Modi ji has done that great job. Also, the defence spending is least under him. He has done a great job here too.
I will only believe this agreement has been "great for us" once I hear our great PM actually spill the details in the parliament. For now let's not prematurely celebrate.
2020 Chinese invasion had roots in 2019 moves by India in Ladakh . Home Minister Amit Shah declared in the Lok Sabha that Aksai Chin was also Indian territory. "Article 370 gave India only a limited say in the affairs of Jammu and Kashmir , including Ladakh , which suited both China and Pakistan . China was always a player in the so called Kashmir dispute overtly only between India and Pakistan. China wanted Ladakh to link up with Pakistan and Shaksgam valley . State Govt of Jammu and Kashmir , including Ladakh , was sympathetic to Pakistan ‘s and ultimately to China ‘s interests , especially , in Ladakh. Example Late Sheikh Abdullah refused to allow His Holiness The Dalai Lama and his followers to settle in Ladakh when they took refuge in India . Ladakh was most suitable for Tibetans both from climate and cultural points of views. India ‘s direct control over both Kashmir and Ladakh has put an end to the China - Pakistani collusion .
You say brilliant work done by indian army and engineers. You are saying this-shocking. A person like you saying this unbelievable !!!!! At core you can't change, no change of heart
This is a very good episode and 2.5% is very doable from 2027-28, after the fiscal deficit gets to below 4%. I would just add a minor quibble, there should be some guarantees on increasing domestic arms procurement and research spending as part of any increases.
A much better presentation by Shekhar Gupta with the endless self-referencing, useless comments on phraseology, and the constant use of the Thesauraus to tell the unwashed masses like us what he means, although even here on more than once instance, he could not help saying that zero-point-two percent was the same as point-two-zero percent.
Thank you shekar sir for bringing the facts.india should reduce the tax an bring more money to middleclass consumers .More economic reform is necessary for even 7.2 of GDP.Mprivitasation of defencePSU.
Modi shown the spine by mirror deployment of defence forces on the border post galwan clashes for the last five years. Banning Chinese Apps like Tick Tock and suspended the direct Air connectivity to china and putting investment restrictions and going for faster development of border infrastructure , QUAD meeeting etc, forced china to blink first and back off. Our FM K.jayashanker never minced words in telling the world about Chinese aggression on the border in international forums. Full credit to our PM and FM.
He banned Tick Tock but tripled our trade deficit with China. Within a few months, direct flights with China will start. In the last three years, Chinese investments in India have increased rather than reduced. America has put QUAD on the back burner, replaced India with the Philippines, and formed a new grouping to contain Chinese influence in the region. After America snubbed our Sangie government on the Khalistan issue, we went to China with our tails between our legs. We agreed to a larger trade deficit, exporting our jobs to China.
Improving the morality and commitment among armed forces is an essential infusion than just increasing the military budget. That is the key investment from Modi and his government.
Credits are also due to the USA 🇺🇸 for the BECA Agreement to provide realtime precision mass targeting data from its considerable space assets 🌌🚀(space-based GMTI/AMTI) to jointly give a fait-accompli to China and re-establish deterrence and détente. Its an open question whether India has established the double détente with both America and China. .
Looks like china wanted to know how India will behave if yhey start thr invasion.. Chinese have learnt some lesson so next time they will be more prepared so Indian side to upgrade themselves in big way when Chinese return back in 2-3 Years
We have to create a chain of premium research institutions, an ecosystem linked to the existing high ranking universities to carry forward research and development of hi-tech crore technologies in diversified fields in order to gain technology related autonomy & self reliance, enhanced comprehensive national capabilities and ultimately for national progress. Thomas L Friedman's comments on the path to progress of India are memorable in this context. There is a big gap in R&D spending in India, compared to the other advanced countries like America, China and western European countries . We have to increase the budgetary allocations for research projects for the sustenance. Recently some policy improvements are visible in this regard. - Philip from Kerala.
One simple fact the de-hyphenated journalism swallowed is - India's defense budget has more than doubled in the last 10 years, increasing from Rs 2.53 lakh crores in 2013-14 to Rs 6.22 lakh crores in 2024-25. On a growing denominator, the quotient is likely to drop.
Indians should focus on strenthing economy the way china did without shouting we are superpower. World will know when we become superpower at that time nobody will need to shout. Work hard and don’t ruin soft power as well as future prospects
There is a greater need to spend more on education (including setting up top notch research institutes), health and world class infrastructure (for rapid economic growth) than on defence budget. Hence the reduction in the share of government budget.
Defence experts are of the view that China does not have any war experience worthwhile for the last 2000 years, their war with Russia ended in defeat and the one with Japan also ended in defeat. Their war with Vietnam also did not show any result. Moreover their army consists of conscripted soldiers. But Indian army is battlehardened with participation in world wars one and two. Just to bring to notice of China lovers
The Indian army is the worst army among all China's opponents. China's war of resistance against Japan lasted 14 years, the Chinese civil war lasted 4 years, the Korean War lasted 3 years, China's self-defense counterattack against Vietnam lasted 2 months, and China's border war with Vietnam lasted 10 years. India's understanding of "war" is too narrow. We Chinese believe that India has never experienced a real war. In 1962, in the eyes of the Chinese, it was not a war, it was just an armed conflict between China and India. In 1962, the short armed conflict of only 32 days continued India's nightmare for decades. What makes the Chinese feel funny is that a border conflict has turned India into a "Battle for the Defense of the Capital of New Delhi".
Rather than increasing the defence budget. We should increase our Budget on R & D of defence equipment. But our Sangie Bania government is more interested in buying defence equipment abroad than manufacturing it in-house.
@@polstarnavigator@polstarnavigator: The fact is that the contribution of manufacturing to our economy has decreased in the last decade. We still import weapons carrying Drowns when Mulla Iran & turkey can export them to Russia. Please do not get carried away by the false propaganda of our Sanghi Media.
@@may4u310 what Nehru got to do with it? Modi built industries but Nehru built this country. We can respect both. If you can't see it, you too are biased.
Shekhar ji , although there is merit in the argument that defence spending should go up as a PERCENTAGE of GDP , I wish you had also given a flavour of how much the GDP itself is going up and by virtue of the same , defence spending is actually UP not DOWN in absolute terms .
1.)We are going to lose in this decade as well. China has already become an economic powerhouse, military behemoth and global leader in many critical technologies. 2.) Its very painful to see that our divisive politics, internal division and lack of foresight for long term economic and strategic planning has shattered our hopes always 3.)This border tension will remain until we are able to stand against china on equal footing in all areas 4.)They don’t consider us threat and we are a poor and failed state in their eyes which can be used as a pawn by USA against them....
No no. On Nehru. Rajiv Gandhi dealt with China. He spent 4+% of the budget on defence. But he was weak. Modi ji gave a clean chit to China, decreased defence budget to record low, but he is 56 inch wala. They are living in the 1984 Orwell world.
Suggest keep your videos both CTC and In National Interest just like this.Compact, brief and communicate information on the topic in a matter of fact manner.
argument for increasing defense expenditure as percentage of GDP is good. However, you ignored two factors while making the case with regard to China 1) China's huge problem is Taiwan, South China Sea, which is a much much bigger issue than fighting for few KM of land in Himalayas, when it's strategic goal of what it needs was accomplished in 1950s with capture of Aksai Chin in Eastern Ladakh. 2) Size ONLY matters to an extent. Otherwise, how do you explain what America, and China Experienced with Vietnam, a very small poor country in 1970s when Vietnamese stood up to both US and their big northern neighbor China in 1979 ? I think you need to do SOME real home work on how small determined countries like Vietnam handled bigger powers. 3) It's unlikely Pakistan's economic situation will improve in next 5 years and with that it's unlikely it'll start a new mis-adventure. Pakistan does that ONLY when it's economy is humming.
"Size ONLY matters to an extent. Otherwise, how do you explain what America, and China Experienced with Vietnam, a very small poor country in 1970s when Vietnamese stood up to both US and their big northern neighbor China in 1979 " yeah with Chinese help. People always leave out context. Vietnam was civil war with proxy wars occurring at the same time. India cannot expect the US to jump in and help in a war or skirmish with China. Size matters but what matters more is technology, information, military readiness, soldiers and good generals.
@@martinvanburen4578Vietnam's economy was set back 30 years after the war with China.. China's aim is to punish Vietnam provoking Chinese border villages. PLA retreated after knowing the damage was done to Vietnam. Takes them years even till now they haven't fully recovered from the economy difficulties. 😂
@@martinvanburen4578 Without PLA advisor going to Vietnam to teach them how to fight guerilla warfare.. veits has no chance of winning the Americans.. PLA had experienced fighting US in the Korean war..and had created many tactics againest US firepower.. China and Russia were supporting Vietnam in the fight againest US. US sanctions not effective againest Vietnam. They were rebuilding with the help of Russia and China.. till the vietnamese troops starts to provoke the Chinese by attacking and invading Chinese village to expand their territories that spark the war with china. China sent their PLA to repel the vietnamese troops back and penetrate further inflicting more damage and loses to the viet's. Destroying the rebuild infrasturture and economy factories, shops, equipment and farms before been recalled back. That is the devastating blow. US war with Vietnam did not fulfill any military or political goals.. they planned to defeat the communist in Vietnam within short period and set up a democratic puppet government but ended up with high casualties as US got dragged into the mud of war with Russia and Chinese backing up the vietnamese. It was a humiliating retreat for the US.
@@martinvanburen4578 Sanctions aren't everything.. Chinese who are their neighbours and ally who can help them then after the US retreat.. but Vietnam provoke china at the border. Even SEA countries were worried of Vietnam's aggression.. china's border war on Vietnam are a relieve to SEA countries then. Vietnamese isolate itself the moment they provoke china.. no aid to them and from the world.. till they gain trust from the region.
Dear Sir, I watch your podcast since i differ with your views. My points why not to spend money in Defence 1.US has the highest defence budget but hardly 20 percent people even in US and EU believe .Recently in EU, most of the EU nations either absented or voted against against EU directive to put Tariffs agains a country who produce EV 2.Its time, we would like to grow like our neighbour. Simply following their footsteps 3.The ukrain issue is going to be a deciding factor .They know it including Mr Modi. He , is still in power because if Rusia.Else the indian economy could have gone for a toss. I could go on. Nr Putin ( Not like Gorge Kenon), has proved a point , With 18000 sanctions , a country can survive. India can't fight a war with china for 30 days. They are a Suoer power. Hope, Sir , u get into it.
Good episode. But Budget and finance are just the first part of the problem. Focus should also be on how procurement can be fast tracked. We know most procurement are just stuck for decades in endless cycle of trials and negotiations and re trials.
Engage, engage, engage, engage, engage, engage in adventurism. Engage, engage, engage, engage, engage, engage in adventurism. You know the USA, Pakistan and China have but you don't know India?
even if you put up the money 💰,no guarantee the arms will come from the west. only way out is build whatever you can in india 🇮🇳. only the navy has done a great job 👍 while the army & air force have let us down.
To be self-sufficient in arms, we have to build our R&D capacities. In the last decade, our Make in India project has even been a disaster. Today, Mulla Iran and Turkey can export weapon carrying Drowns to Russia while we are still importing them.
China taught Nehru a lesson in 1962,which congress did not forget till 2014 and surrender Aksai chin and part of Ladakh to china and committed to china to not make any infrastructure an LAC,till china over take whole of Ladakh and Siachen,where a blade of grass never grows
I think that the Ukraine (although slowly losing) being able to inflict so heavy losses against Russia despite the huge parity between the two , not to mention one of them is not even a nuclear power will force anyone to think several times . India on its part must learn & adapt all the lessons coming out of the 2 current ongoing wars... especially the adaptation of AI drones & developing & deploying hypersonic missiles & more asymmetric means of war. And ofcourse on top of that all increasing GDP share of defence spending as you pointed out must be done but aimed towards R&D & indegenisation. Let's get Saffrin engine 100% ToT from France , they are willing to offer us that & then we will be able to produce as many fighter jets as possible.
The 31 MQ9 Drones which India has bought from US will significantly boost our Army Airforce & Navy's capabilities. Can't wait for your next week's episode.
Where the hell is the money going? The percentage of budget allocated to defence is down, the railways don't have the budget, the education sector is in shambles due to budgetary constraints and whichever sector you take a look at there is an issue of budget constraints, meanwhile GST collections are touching record highs. Tf is going on?
India's defense budget doesn't come from GDP. It comes from tax revenue (and may be debt but debt and tax revenues are ultimately linked. Debt has to be repaid using tax revenue). All these suggestions like using another 0.2% of GDP for defense looks good only on paper. India's tax-to-gdp ratio is still pretty low. Lot of money is getting spent on freebies leaving less for development and everything else. Center gets to spend roughly 40% of total govt spend. Rest 60% is spent by state govts. That is also a reality.
Now this was a genuine National Interest edition. Well made.
Waiting for next week.
National Intetest editorial ?
This moron has not read of budgetary provisions of Chinese investment.
Credit where credit is due. Unlike the then defence minister, AK Antony, throwing in the towel that too in the Indian parliament, Modi actually stood strong against China. In terms of defense spending, we should also see the absolutes. Tanks and Fighter jets are NOT winning you the war these days. It's the era of UAVs, ARROWs and miniature ammunitions. We need a modern era defense Industry. Modi Govt needs to urgently address this gap. Tax breaks, corridors and favorable policies needed.
'Modi actually stood strong against China' - That is why china is comfortabily sitting on our land which was taken under his tenure.
@@JohnAbraham-gh6dzThe church spoke thus or that abomination Pappu?!😂
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@@JohnAbraham-gh6dzThis guy is a genius of a special kind.
He will justify any move by Modi ji.
He will see absolute terms for Modi era, but what about absolute terms for 2013 incomparison of 2003? UPA was spending way more than 2003.
Actually he will praise Modi ji for his statement on giving a clean chit to China.
He is great like Modi ji.
It's true that India's military budget as a percentage of GDP has stayed almost flat, but in absolute numbers, it’s increasing every year. There are several reasons behind the flattening of the defense budget:
1) India heavily relied on Russia for its weapon imports. However, due to the Russia-Ukraine war and Russia's shortage of weaponry, India hasn’t been able to make any major purchases from Russia in the last four years. The last significant deal was for the S-400 missiles. Therefore, if you are not procuring anything worth billions of dollars, why would the defense budget increase?
2) The new emphasis on 'Make in India' has dramatically altered procurement processes. The Indian armed forces will need some time to adapt to these changes, especially given the strong import lobby within India.
3) India requires highly advanced technology that it currently lacks, such as 5th-generation fighter jets, deck-based fighters, hypersonic missiles, nuclear submarines, and AIP (Air-Independent Propulsion) submarines. These technologies are challenging to acquire or develop and take time to build domestically.
4) The import lobby within India’s defense sector is still very influential. For instance, in the procurement of assault rifles, there was no real need to import SIG-716s or AK-203s since we already have solid local options. Similarly, we’re replacing Tata WhAPs with U.S.-made Strykers due to this lobby, often resulting in wasted time and resources.
Yes, India’s defense budget could be higher; it's not as low as it seems. However, complex issues beyond just budget limitations are also at play here.
If India can go to the Moon, why can't it build its own defence equipment? All we have to do is increase our budget for Defence R&D manifold and not on importing it. Today, even Mulla-run Iran can sell its weapon-carrying Drones to Russia while we still import them. Our MAKE ON INDIA has been a big Jummla. The Sangie Bania country has made our country a trading country rather than a manufacturing country. Causing massive unemployment in India.
No worries, BJP has invested in Bulldozers.
@@mg.f.9023you want to go with partisan politics?
Okay who created and is using these import lobbies? Congress
By the way Because of Canada
India wont buy those Strykers 🎉
Yeah nice coping to defend the government
1) Not just the defense budget as the percentage of GDP has stayed flat or worse declined, as a percentage of government budget it has nosedived. It started declining by 2017 where it was 18 percent then really cratered after 2019 and now it's 13 percent. This is many years before the russo-ukraine war even started. And the meager absolute increase you are talking about is to barely cope with the inflation and accounts to no real increase
Secondly we don't just buy from Russia, besides the S400 deal was worth 5.4 billion out of a total 21 billion capital expenditure budget so you don't need to increase the budget to accommodate the s400 deal. Your logic is absurd.
To understand the gravity of situation let's talk in numbers. In 2014-15 FY the armed forces required capital outlay for modernisation of 1,32,597.69 crore but the government allotted just Rs 84,076.95 crore. In 2021 the requirement from armed forces was Rs 1,99,553.44 crore but the govt allotted Rs 1,23,000.22 crore, an amount less than what the Services had sought in 2014. This is all from government's own reply in rajyasabha.
2) historically if you see domestic equipment have the shortest procurement cycle. Compare LCA MK1A deal to MMRCA, p75i to other domestic ships projects, pinaka etc. And r&d projects have nothing to do with regular defense budget.
So this is a poor excuse. Defense acquisition procedure 2020 has 6 categories of acquisition and only one or two comes under total domestic development. So what stops other categories?
Blinded by the incessant need to defend modi you can't even get the facts right which are in open.
Good journalism.Stands in contrast with the idea that India is turning into a security state.
Excellent analysis. Thanks!! Looking forward to next week.
Built infrastructure first, without them growth will be organic. You can't expect an exponential growth without an efficient infrastructure.
Reform the bureaucracy before building infrastructure; otherwise, money will be wasted.
@pardeeptandon
Bureaucratic change is intangible, Indian style of democracy will involve great political determination will not get the support of politicians and the people.
Because they are nothing to show to the people that something is being done.
Infrastructure and political reform have to be done at the same time.
But if there is only one choice. The choice is obvious.
@@wionporky9937 : We are still administrated by the same Bureaucratic structure which the Britishers set up to loot India and make it a Pauper state from the second largest economy we were during n era. We should scrap the entire Bureaucratic system we have and Reform it if we have to progress.
@vanguard123-k3h: This Bureaucratic structure was imposed on us By Brits to loot us still continues. The entire structure needs to be put in dustbin. a New administrative structure has to put in place.
They make sure no good policy is implemented on the ground.
The Chinese PSU can sell Diwali lights to us but our Bureaucrats insure that even our private enterprises can not compete with them as our Bureaucracy imposes crazy rules.
I’m no defense expert, but my understanding of data science says percentage of total GDP should not reflect the spending. We should also consider growth in GDP, spending in different sectors (like pension vs purchasing imported items vs production of local items), income via defense exports, and most importantly leakage due to corruption.
Even if you ignore the GDP percentage the defense budget as percentage of government budget has nosedived since 2018 from 18% to 13% now. And you completely forgot inflation which eats away any meager increase.
Future wars will be fought by drones as is already evident from Ukraine war and Israel/Iran war. India needs to urgently learn from Ukraine war and stop investing in
1. Aircraft careers (too expensive for our budget, 2 we have are enough). Aircraft careers have no defense against hypersonic missiles and we have Andaman and Laksdeep as unsinkable aircraft carriers, building air strip on each and every island of Andaman and Laksdeep will be less expensive than an aircraft carrier
And start investing in
1. Drones, FPV, Suicide drones, including terrain mapping AI enabled drones (lots of them). Marine drones.
2. Self propelled artillery as they are less susceptible to drone attacks due to their fast moving capability.
3. MANPADS, MANPATS (Perfect to stop Chinese aggression in Himalayas and gruella warfare against better armed Chinese military)
4. Missiles (we have them and need to ramp up the production and build more production capabilities, ramp in the private sector). We need hundreds of thousands of SAM's and saturate North East with them.
5. Most important Gepard type self-propelled anti-aircraft anti-drone gun (only practical defense against drones including AI drones) . We need at least 50,000 of them manufactured in India and deployed all across the border to stop surveillance drones, smuggling drones and also the armed drones in case of war against China
6. Submarines, a lot of them. They are stealth killers, if we have 500 of them, no navy will dare to challenge us in Indian Ocean. Quality is not as important as quantity when it comes to Submarines. We don't need so many nuclear submarines, we need a lot of ordinary submarines to block Malacca strait and Andaman sea
Everything has its importance. And in war, all these machines will get destroyed and it's normal. Stop panicking after a CNN BBC propaganda session
Wdym "stop investing in". Did you mean "start investing in*"?
Main thing is submarine vs aircraft carrier is one if defensive while other is an offensive weapon. You cannot project power with submarines, india sees itself as a power projector in IOR.
@@siddharthgoyal4008 you can project power by torpedoing any ship you want to withdraw a submarine, if India gets a 100 subs we can dominate all ocean
that is a bizarre take...Aircraft carrier project power in the seas. A war with China would involve shipping lanes and a carrier is great for that as well as launching multiprong attacks. Drones are great but you need to reach the attack points and a carrier can achieve that from the sea.
SG sir gets abused by both modi and congress fans. A true proof of un biased journalism😂😂
SG has the courage to expose the truth so that the country can rectify any shortfalls. Unlike the main stream media who is only doing wah wah of the ruling party.
If I've to guess it's day,
By Modi fans coz he's historically been a reporter fromCongress camp.
Now from Congress fans maybe coz he doesn't seem to be supporting Congress anymore.
When politicians can play all sides.
SG mein kyun piche rahon.. sab ko Chuna lagane mein!
@@mg.f.9023 The same SG who doesn't want to call a failed son of an ex pm a loser, was happy to call the haryana CM a 'loser' some 10 times that too with absolute disdain, "before" the haryana election. After the eggs on his face and the omlette were eaten, he had nothing good to say about the winner :)
Bruh this coupta was writing coup stories in 2011, 12.
He was accusing gen VK Singh chief of the Indian army.
Routine military exercise was termed as a coup attempt by sekhar coupta.
Allegedly he was doing all this on the behalf of p Chidambaram, and the target was army chief.
This is much needed and an excellent piece , however is anyone in south block listening ?
Well prepared posture is a must for peace at the borders
Good to get lessons every now and then about the need for economic and military power
Excellent point which we all seem to miss. Thank You Shekhar.
Interesting - Sunday morning watch here in London .
India needs to implement economic reforms, asap to raise GDP growth rate from 7% (new Hindu rate, as you say), to 10%. The fact that we haven't developed political concensus on these, is also used by China to denounce the idea of democracy, which they blame as the reason for India being left behind. Either political parties need to come together, or voters have to get out of their biases, to encourage the parties they support, to support the reforms. In cases, like these, people and parties have to put national interests over immediate power games, and blame games. I don't know how they will achieve it, but creative politics is needed, whosoever it maybe from.
It will be achievement if we can maintain 7% for 20 years which will pull GDP to 15 trillion which is good.
Why 10? Not 15? And Hindu growth rate is a racist term. Don’t be stupid like Nehru. The opposition can’t shut up over even small issues forget the things we need for 10% growth.
Consensus on an important issue in WaQF bill itself is not happening to talk of defence is too premature.
just put emergency with consensus
@@rajx7120 Be careful what you wish for. India is the world's fastest growing large economy. That means 7% is more than decent in the current era where most countries are struggling with budget controls. If we artificially try to heat up the economy, we may end up with uncontrollable inflation. The best approach is to move in a clandestine manner and introduce reforms in a phased manner to prevent shocks.
Usually I am a trenchant critic of Shekhar Gupta but this is one of the few episodes where I wholeheartedly agree with him.
Thanks for your perspective
Great - how will you describe yourself.
Sir, you and your team are just Amazing.. What Analysis , one of the best Cut the Clutter videos.. I come from a Defence background and I was amazed with the actual data points you highlighted.. Hats off..
Modiji and his Babus have not completely stoped trade with China
Even Superpower USA can't do that..
Wto ka name suna hh
Completely stoped trade withchina it would be a disaster for India.😂
Indian power differential with China will peak around 2030 and will remain static after that. PLA will field 1000 5 gen fighters by 2035, so will Pakistan. By sheer timelines we are screwed whether MRFA, SSN or Conventional subs, tankers, Awaacs. So play it nice, stay vigilant and balalnce externally. Develop your own defence industry and spend on research.
Best way to avoid a war is to prepare well for one.
Excellent analysis. Vintage Shakhar Gupta
Extremely important topic and great data points. There is no way India can afford to diminish its defence spending to expose itself even to a tiny vulnerable. Large scale wars might not happen in foreseeable future, however we should not let adversaries poke here and there and have fun. Economically we are now enough capable to upgrade our forces.
More spending on defence R & D is required.
Master in finding negative in positive . 😂
Disagree with Mr. Gupta on one point - the latest India-Tibet border standoff is not due to capability gaps or capacity gaps. Its a gap in intention - CCP is clear that they want Kashmiri to be split between China and Pakistan are only moving towards that aim. What do we want? What steps are we taking? Whis aren't we taking proactive steps to reclaim our territory... Why are peace deals only to be followed by us and not the other?
Peace deals followed by India
Because India's economy is 5x less than India
Why china need to follow peace deals when they think ( and India knows they are...) they are way ahead of india
Intention without capabilities is just hollow shenanigans.
india is claiming chinese areas conquered by Brits
I have intention to take your jet aircraft but lack capability. 😂
jokes apart,
It's capability which mattes and cannot change overnight, intentions change overnight. It takes decades building airforce and a century building the Navy.
Sir, you are a green horn don't question veterans like SG. Enjoy. 🎉
Great Information sharing Sir!!
Defence expenditure during congress rule was only to tge extent of funding requirement of the firangi family. Congress party was a corrupt version of colonial enemy that ruled india!
They had no national interest. Like colonialists and like current Canada the party was turing india's diversity as a means to exploit public sentiments by their caste -relogious sectarian politics making it appear 'secularism'.
Had congress been in power, india would have become starkly poor, only this famiky would have become richer... Would not have let indian capital investment perform unless the family was funded.
Ememy rule continued through congress government. As colonialists. They too used divide & rule as a strategy! By wisdom of indian citizens they have not come to power! Only sectarians and casteists vote for them now!
Why is there always the philosophy of wishing away the problems so evident in these matters with us, no matter how hard we may want the Chinese to be the nice and decent neighbour they are our biggest competitors at the least and any complacency in relation to them will prove really costly in the coming times.
It's a victory of every Indian citizen under the able leadership of Modi ji.
Happy to see The Print has recognized Modi's contribution. Jai Hind!🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Feku moron only cost us more bcoz of his laal ankh. Chineese forced a lot of resources to be moved to defence which could have been used for development. We still are no match for china
Grudging admission 😂
@@krishnaprasadsannidhi8288 Yeah, no other PM has ever gave clean chit to China. Modi ji has done that great job.
Also, the defence spending is least under him. He has done a great job here too.
I will only believe this agreement has been "great for us" once I hear our great PM actually spill the details in the parliament. For now let's not prematurely celebrate.
Ok Mr. BJP spokesperson
Modi Government's road and infrastructure building paid off
Haan, Chin to road hi dekh ke wapas gaya hai...😂😂
Chinese phones have flooded India. Chinese need not come over.
@@BharatThatIsIndiaabe chutiye.. infra development means .. large deployments are possible.
Thanks!
Dear Arko, thank you for your support.
2020 Chinese invasion had roots in 2019 moves by India in Ladakh . Home Minister Amit Shah declared in the Lok Sabha that Aksai Chin was also Indian territory.
"Article 370 gave India only a limited say in the affairs of Jammu and Kashmir , including Ladakh , which suited both China and Pakistan .
China was always a player in the so called Kashmir dispute overtly only between India and Pakistan. China wanted Ladakh to link up with Pakistan and Shaksgam valley . State Govt of Jammu and Kashmir , including Ladakh , was sympathetic to Pakistan ‘s and ultimately to China ‘s interests , especially , in Ladakh. Example Late Sheikh Abdullah refused to allow His Holiness The Dalai Lama and his followers to settle in Ladakh when they took refuge in India . Ladakh was most suitable for Tibetans both from climate and cultural points of views.
India ‘s direct control over both Kashmir and Ladakh has put an end to the China - Pakistani collusion .
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@@tapschaudhuri Thanks a lot.
I agree sir!
You say brilliant work done by indian army and engineers. You are saying this-shocking. A person like you saying this unbelievable !!!!! At core you can't change, no change of heart
This is a very good episode and 2.5% is very doable from 2027-28, after the fiscal deficit gets to below 4%. I would just add a minor quibble, there should be some guarantees on increasing domestic arms procurement and research spending as part of any increases.
A much better presentation by Shekhar Gupta with the endless self-referencing, useless comments on phraseology, and the constant use of the Thesauraus to tell the unwashed masses like us what he means, although even here on more than once instance, he could not help saying that zero-point-two percent was the same as point-two-zero percent.
Excellent report
Thank you shekar sir for bringing the facts.india should reduce the tax an bring more money to middleclass consumers .More economic reform is necessary for even 7.2 of GDP.Mprivitasation of defencePSU.
This is good analysis today . Very good . 👍
Modi shown the spine by mirror deployment of defence forces on the border post galwan clashes for the last five years. Banning Chinese Apps like Tick Tock and suspended the direct Air connectivity to china and putting investment restrictions and going for faster development of border infrastructure , QUAD meeeting etc, forced china to blink first and back off. Our FM K.jayashanker never minced words in telling the world about Chinese aggression on the border in international forums. Full credit to our PM and FM.
He banned Tick Tock but tripled our trade deficit with China. Within a few months, direct flights with China will start. In the last three years, Chinese investments in India have increased rather than reduced.
America has put QUAD on the back burner, replaced India with the Philippines, and formed a new grouping to contain Chinese influence in the region.
After America snubbed our Sangie government on the Khalistan issue, we went to China with our tails between our legs. We agreed to a larger trade deficit, exporting our jobs to China.
PM said no one has entered. FM has said China are stronger.
Why don't you work on your microphone? Other RUclips channels have so much clear and louder voice. I have skipped past few videos due to bad audio.
Time for you to change to your headphones
Thanks Shekhar. Modi is a Machiavellian Centaur. Both Angel and Beast in one.
Improving the morality and commitment among armed forces is an essential infusion than just increasing the military budget. That is the key investment from Modi and his government.
The percentage is down because the total budget amount is very much more than before.
Awesome analysis.
6:25 So Modi ji has gone back on defence spending promises like his promises!!!
Defence spending is 13%, less than UPA2 worst Year i.e. 2013.
from where you got this info? in 2013 it was 240,000 crore. now it's 671,932 crores. only the ratio compared to gdp has come down. which is sensible.
@SDFNI3894YR Do you know something called maths?
Calculate the percentage.
GDP, Growth, Expenditure, etc all are calculated like that.
@@BharatThatIsIndia he did the math you clown
@@BharatThatIsIndiachew tia
@tapschaudhuri Modi Ji ko aisa mat bolo. PM hai wo. Chew tia kahe bol rahe ho?
Credits are also due to the USA 🇺🇸 for the BECA Agreement to provide realtime precision mass targeting data from its considerable space assets 🌌🚀(space-based GMTI/AMTI) to jointly give a fait-accompli to China and re-establish deterrence and détente.
Its an open question whether India has established the double détente with both America and China.
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well said
Looks like china wanted to know how India will behave if yhey start thr invasion.. Chinese have learnt some lesson so next time they will be more prepared so Indian side to upgrade themselves in big way when Chinese return back in 2-3 Years
poostan got big mouth only
Great
We have to create a chain of premium research institutions, an ecosystem linked to the existing high ranking universities to carry forward research and development of hi-tech crore technologies in diversified fields in order to gain technology related autonomy & self reliance, enhanced comprehensive national capabilities and ultimately for national progress.
Thomas L Friedman's comments on the path to progress of India are memorable in this context.
There is a big gap in R&D spending in India, compared to the other advanced countries like America, China and western European countries .
We have to increase the budgetary allocations for research projects for the sustenance. Recently some policy improvements are visible in this regard.
- Philip from Kerala.
You are 100 % right.
I agree.
We need to invest more in education and health.
Top class infrastructure is needed , too.
Hence the need to cut "wasteful" defence budget.
One simple fact the de-hyphenated journalism swallowed is - India's defense budget has more than doubled in the last 10 years, increasing from Rs 2.53 lakh crores in 2013-14 to Rs 6.22 lakh crores in 2024-25.
On a growing denominator, the quotient is likely to drop.
Indians should focus on strenthing economy the way china did without shouting we are superpower. World will know when we become superpower at that time nobody will need to shout.
Work hard and don’t ruin soft power as well as future prospects
There is a greater need to spend more on education (including setting up top notch research institutes), health and world class infrastructure (for rapid economic growth) than on defence budget.
Hence the reduction in the share of government budget.
Bet the best eager student to learn first and fast is shekar gupta 😂😂😂😂
Reducing The Army Man Power Strength Directly by 2% of All Regiments ( Sikh to Madras to Gurkhas ) and Using That Resources for Drones Etc
Add to that a Bania & Marwati regiment from Gujarat.
@@pardeeptandon 😂, funny but true
@@pardeeptandon😂
Trying to defeat drone overlords with drones is a foolish ideal😂
Very good analysis.
Defence experts are of the view that China does not have any war experience worthwhile for the last 2000 years, their war with Russia ended in defeat and the one with Japan also ended in defeat. Their war with Vietnam also did not show any result. Moreover their army consists of conscripted soldiers. But Indian army is battlehardened with participation in world wars one and two. Just to bring to notice of China lovers
Good Point, But they defeated us in 1962
India's defense experts are so interesting...
The Indian army is the worst army among all China's opponents. China's war of resistance against Japan lasted 14 years, the Chinese civil war lasted 4 years, the Korean War lasted 3 years, China's self-defense counterattack against Vietnam lasted 2 months, and China's border war with Vietnam lasted 10 years. India's understanding of "war" is too narrow. We Chinese believe that India has never experienced a real war. In 1962, in the eyes of the Chinese, it was not a war, it was just an armed conflict between China and India. In 1962, the short armed conflict of only 32 days continued India's nightmare for decades. What makes the Chinese feel funny is that a border conflict has turned India into a "Battle for the Defense of the Capital of New Delhi".
Good luck fighting with your 100 year old veterans with WW2 tactics
@@mingmuyiyang8615CCP BOT
Yes sir.
Narrative started in guise of patriotism!!
I suppose either indian communist or chinese wolf warrior commenting in this thread
Rather than increasing the defence budget. We should increase our Budget on R & D of defence equipment. But our Sangie Bania government is more interested in buying defence equipment abroad than manufacturing it in-house.
You have to be seriously biased to say something like this. No govt has done so much for defence manufacturing as this govt.
@@polstarnavigator@polstarnavigator: The fact is that the contribution of manufacturing to our economy has decreased in the last decade. We still import weapons carrying Drowns when Mulla Iran & turkey can export them to Russia. Please do not get carried away by the false propaganda of our Sanghi Media.
@pardeeptandon True, it was visionary Nehru who set up Military Industrial Complex in India then 2014 happened and all shifted to west.
@@may4u310 what Nehru got to do with it? Modi built industries but Nehru built this country. We can respect both. If you can't see it, you too are biased.
Excellent 😊
A Comprehensive Analysis of Fact Checking: Shekhar, I appreciate your thorough analysis of the situation, highlighting various key points.
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Shekhar ji , although there is merit in the argument that defence spending should go up as a PERCENTAGE of GDP , I wish you had also given a flavour of how much the GDP itself is going up and by virtue of the same , defence spending is actually UP not DOWN in absolute terms .
Sekhar Gupta is reporting as if he is reporting for China or Pak government
The print should launch a Hindi language channel to broaden it's viewers. "Unbiased journalism."
When we talk about defence expenditure, we should include 1000s of crores expenditure by private players in R&D after privatisation of the sector.
1.)We are going to lose in this decade as well. China has already become an economic powerhouse, military behemoth and global leader in many critical technologies.
2.) Its very painful to see that our divisive politics, internal division and lack of foresight for long term economic and strategic planning has shattered our hopes always
3.)This border tension will remain until we are able to stand against china on equal footing in all areas
4.)They don’t consider us threat and we are a poor and failed state in their eyes which can be used as a pawn by USA against them....
Agreed.
Defence budget should be of atleast 2.5% of Nominal GDP. If there's shortage of funds, cut down on the unnecessary expenses like free Ration
Blame it on Congress
No no. On Nehru.
Rajiv Gandhi dealt with China. He spent 4+% of the budget on defence. But he was weak.
Modi ji gave a clean chit to China, decreased defence budget to record low, but he is 56 inch wala.
They are living in the 1984 Orwell world.
@@BharatThatIsIndiapaid pooper he always did the bofors scam
First time some good reporting, along with typical congress booting
After last disastrous CTC on PIA this topic was a good choice...
We dont need to match with China's millitary. We just need to reach break even point.
what is the break even point here?
Suggest keep your videos both CTC and In National Interest just like this.Compact, brief and communicate information on the topic in a matter of fact manner.
Modi is the modern day Nehru.. Nation builder.. Jai Modiji
mody chini bhai bhai. desh gaya bhaad me.
Papu chini bhai bhai aksai chin tibet gaya china ka pass
argument for increasing defense expenditure as percentage of GDP is good. However, you ignored two factors while making the case with regard to China
1) China's huge problem is Taiwan, South China Sea, which is a much much bigger issue than fighting for few KM of land in Himalayas, when it's strategic goal of what it needs was accomplished in 1950s with capture of Aksai Chin in Eastern Ladakh.
2) Size ONLY matters to an extent. Otherwise, how do you explain what America, and China Experienced with Vietnam, a very small poor country in 1970s when Vietnamese stood up to both US and their big northern neighbor China in 1979 ?
I think you need to do SOME real home work on how small determined countries like Vietnam handled bigger powers.
3) It's unlikely Pakistan's economic situation will improve in next 5 years and with that it's unlikely it'll start a new mis-adventure. Pakistan does that ONLY when it's economy is humming.
"Size ONLY matters to an extent. Otherwise, how do you explain what America, and China Experienced with Vietnam, a very small poor country in 1970s when Vietnamese stood up to both US and their big northern neighbor China in 1979 "
yeah with Chinese help. People always leave out context. Vietnam was civil war with proxy wars occurring at the same time.
India cannot expect the US to jump in and help in a war or skirmish with China. Size matters but what matters more is technology, information, military readiness, soldiers and good generals.
@@martinvanburen4578Vietnam's economy was set back 30 years after the war with China.. China's aim is to punish Vietnam provoking Chinese border villages. PLA retreated after knowing the damage was done to Vietnam. Takes them years even till now they haven't fully recovered from the economy difficulties. 😂
@@LimWJ2023 The bombing from America and sanctions was not a factor? The PLA helped fight the Americans that is why America lost. That is the point.
@@martinvanburen4578 Without PLA advisor going to Vietnam to teach them how to fight guerilla warfare.. veits has no chance of winning the Americans.. PLA had experienced fighting US in the Korean war..and had created many tactics againest US firepower.. China and Russia were supporting Vietnam in the fight againest US. US sanctions not effective againest Vietnam. They were rebuilding with the help of Russia and China.. till the vietnamese troops starts to provoke the Chinese by attacking and invading Chinese village to expand their territories that spark the war with china. China sent their PLA to repel the vietnamese troops back and penetrate further inflicting more damage and loses to the viet's. Destroying the rebuild infrasturture and economy factories, shops, equipment and farms before been recalled back. That is the devastating blow. US war with Vietnam did not fulfill any military or political goals.. they planned to defeat the communist in Vietnam within short period and set up a democratic puppet government but ended up with high casualties as US got dragged into the mud of war with Russia and Chinese backing up the vietnamese. It was a humiliating retreat for the US.
@@martinvanburen4578 Sanctions aren't everything.. Chinese who are their neighbours and ally who can help them then after the US retreat.. but Vietnam provoke china at the border. Even SEA countries were worried of Vietnam's aggression.. china's border war on Vietnam are a relieve to SEA countries then. Vietnamese isolate itself the moment they provoke china.. no aid to them and from the world.. till they gain trust from the region.
Very nice to see The Print praising BJP & MODI
You don’t seem equally excited when the 56 inch tongue is criticised by the Print.
Sg sitting on the table is gangster
Dear Sir,
I watch your podcast since i differ with your views.
My points why not to spend money in Defence
1.US has the highest defence budget but hardly 20 percent people even in US and EU believe .Recently in EU, most of the EU nations either absented or voted against against EU directive to put Tariffs agains a country who produce EV
2.Its time, we would like to grow like our neighbour.
Simply following their footsteps
3.The ukrain issue is going to be a deciding factor .They know it including Mr Modi.
He , is still in power because if Rusia.Else the indian economy could have gone for a toss.
I could go on.
Nr Putin ( Not like Gorge Kenon), has proved a point ,
With 18000 sanctions , a country can survive.
India can't fight a war with china for 30 days.
They are a Suoer power.
Hope, Sir , u get into it.
India defence expenditure should be atleast 4-5% of total GDP coz we have to confront one hostile enemy on two front China on east & west.
And one outside our immediate borders
however right or wrong, Why entertain lapdogs from kennels of DYNASTY...?
they need not be relied upon. Period
Good episode. But Budget and finance are just the first part of the problem. Focus should also be on how procurement can be fast tracked. We know most procurement are just stuck for decades in endless cycle of trials and negotiations and re trials.
Engage, engage, engage, engage, engage, engage in adventurism. Engage, engage, engage, engage, engage, engage in adventurism. You know the USA, Pakistan and China have but you don't know India?
Capex in Building of infrastructure in Ladakh & Arunachal should also be considered as a part of defence budget.
I also think the Chinese could start another stand off sooner than later
even if you put up the money 💰,no guarantee the arms will come from the west. only way out is build whatever you can in india 🇮🇳. only the navy has done a great job 👍 while the army & air force have let us down.
To be self-sufficient in arms, we have to build our R&D capacities. In the last decade, our Make in India project has even been a disaster. Today, Mulla Iran and Turkey can export weapon carrying Drowns to Russia while we are still importing them.
China taught Nehru a lesson in 1962,which congress did not forget till 2014 and surrender Aksai chin and part of Ladakh to china and committed to china to not make any infrastructure an LAC,till china over take whole of Ladakh and Siachen,where a blade of grass never grows
I think that the Ukraine (although slowly losing) being able to inflict so heavy losses against Russia despite the huge parity between the two , not to mention one of them is not even a nuclear power will force anyone to think several times . India on its part must learn & adapt all the lessons coming out of the 2 current ongoing wars... especially the adaptation of AI drones & developing & deploying hypersonic missiles & more asymmetric means of war. And ofcourse on top of that all increasing GDP share of defence spending as you pointed out must be done but aimed towards R&D & indegenisation.
Let's get Saffrin engine 100% ToT from France , they are willing to offer us that & then we will be able to produce as many fighter jets as possible.
Ukraine alone is not fighting. It is the entire nato force
At last Guptaji says something positive about BJP govt.
The 31 MQ9 Drones which India has bought from US will significantly boost our Army Airforce & Navy's capabilities. Can't wait for your next week's episode.
Mq9 can't really change a lot with the Chinese. The houthi conflict has shown the limitations of very expensive drones
They could be useful for reconaissance on the Pakistani side or limited maritime peace time role
Where the hell is the money going? The percentage of budget allocated to defence is down, the railways don't have the budget, the education sector is in shambles due to budgetary constraints and whichever sector you take a look at there is an issue of budget constraints, meanwhile GST collections are touching record highs. Tf is going on?
Probably goes to the party fund to pay for rallies and advertisement.
Probably goes to the party fund to pay for rallies and advertisement.
Party has separate funding thanks to electoral bonds
Subsidies of all kinds, pensions and services for retired government employees, debt repayments, border infrastructure …
Welfare schemes. We Indians want to get everything free, contribute minimal and loot whenever possible 😅
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India's defense budget doesn't come from GDP. It comes from tax revenue (and may be debt but debt and tax revenues are ultimately linked. Debt has to be repaid using tax revenue). All these suggestions like using another 0.2% of GDP for defense looks good only on paper. India's tax-to-gdp ratio is still pretty low. Lot of money is getting spent on freebies leaving less for development and everything else. Center gets to spend roughly 40% of total govt spend. Rest 60% is spent by state govts. That is also a reality.
At 2:37, I'm not disagreeing with the reasoning, however I wish if we can concretize this analysis with some views from the Chinese side
Sir, instead of % spending , please tell in billions.
Decrease the pensions to retired military personnel. most of the budget is going to pensions and salaries.
Didn't the GDP increase? Hasn't the real term spending see an actual rise over the years?
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