@@JamesJacksonFilmz It is why I always say sometimes we lose our creative spirit when we decide beforehand what the camera can and can't do. A simple turn of the wrist and boom our mind is blown lol
I just want to say it’s great to see another channel finally look at dynamic range at 800 instead of 400 iso. Been doing my own testing and showing on my channel and found that 800 is an overall better balanced iso vs 400. 400 is great if your in need of cleaner blacks but the increase in highlight performance outweighs the raise of noise at 800 making it, imo a better Balanced image at the lower iso.
OOOoo thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a couple multi-focus anamorphic pipelines that I'd like to test (Bolex, Sankor), but the new generation of anamorphics really intrigues me. Pavo and Blazar / Remus in particular.
man, the mid49 cage really does look the best. I know we probably never will, but I'd love to see Arri do a PCA set for the pixys, even if it costs as much as the camera itself. A lot of people are saying that it'll make a great B cam to the Alexas, it'd be nice if they used the same accessory ecosystem. Either that or mid49 needs to develop a cage for the mini LF and the 35.
If you wanna go a step further and nail the Arri look on Pyxis or any Blackmagic since the 4k, then I highly recommend the Emotive Color LUT pack that was made for the BMPCC 6K since it's very compatible with the PYXIS. Phantom LUT or Buttery LUT ain't got a damn on it. I still use my Lumix GH4/5 version of the LUT pack and it makes my cameras look like a legit arri. The best thing about the LUT pack is that it can apply the look and come out the other end as an Arri LogC file, meaning you can then go on grading the Log footage as if it were an actual Arri and get that high end Arri look (without the latitude of course)
I been doing a lot of research for my first serious cinema camera. Great video. I thinking I'm getting this one. My mind is all made up. My only concern since there's different ones. I am aiming to get the PL. Is that a good choice?
@@NorthwestCameraCo But that section says it's the BMCC 6k Pro, which I'm assuming you meant the previous version of the full frame because there was no "Pro" version. But if the electronics of the Pyxis improve the image, in what areas would that be? Shadows and highlghts?
Great review ! About adapters, I can't find the PL to L adapter on Breakthrough website, they only have a PL to RF, you might have a prototype on yours ?
Dang. Hadn't thought about using it for vertical like that. I don't even like vertical video, but that'd be great for hand held simple shooting of personal stuff.
Great! good camera. I'm worried that its cost in the new case is approaching the cost of the kinefinity LF 6k. Black magic is of course cheaper, but it is better to know the difference between them. After all, it is unknown whether these cameras are equal or not.
Good in-depth video, When shooting vertical content ive read the screen doesn't rotate/orient to vertical when rotating the camera with the side screen now facing upward, is that the case?
Planning to purchase, can't decide which mount to choose. I have a decent set of EF cine lenses, but will likely be renting anamorphics from NWCC on a project-by-project basis. What's your lens inventory say?
@@NorthwestCameraCo what do you think about the robustness of the connection using adaptors? I assume it's not the same as having a native PL mount (or native EF mount).
@@NorthwestCameraCowhat makes the image better in your opinion? Dynamic range is better on the FX3, so it has to be something else. Maybe you could be a little more specific. Thanks.
@@gundisrambo9054 Dynamic range is pretty similar to FX3 just weighted differently. FX3 is 10bit as this is 12 so theres a large color information difference as well as just personal bias when it comes to color in general.
If this had better readout speed and internal NDs.. I'd be all about it.. but the terrible rolling shutter and lack of internal ND in 2024 is a no go for me
honestly once you run it through the warp situation in resolve, its essentially on par with c400/c500/Burano and mostly not noticeable during 90% of shooting to a DP's eye. General public probably wouldn't care if its readout speed was 75ms.
@NorthwestCameraCo fixing it in post is not my love language and i would never present a "we can fix it later" to a client. There's cameras with far faster readout speed and internal nds . This is a cool start for bm. But for me, I just couldn't use it in a paid environment
I'll wait till BMD inevitably release a Mk 11 which needs the built in ND filters this model should have had from Day 1. No excuse. We might even see a classic BMD price reduction.
So sad about the bad rolling shutter on this camera, you can't correct it if the camera is not moving and has no gyro data for example if an object is moving fast in the frame which is sad, otherwise it would've been perfect for the price
The image from the Blackmagic pockets is better than the image from all Sony alpha cameras unless you’re shooting RAW. You can’t beat the Sonys for convenience like autofocus though.
Sony has always excelled in ergonomics, possibly even over picture in their dedicated video cameras. IMO, the 'floating' electronic internal ND built into the FS5, FS7 II and FX6 will trump this camera every time, irrespective of picture quality. Given you can pick up 14 stop D/R FS7 IIs now for just $1500, that's where I'll stay for the time being.
"A vertical Komodo" Brilliant ! Love your insights on this video.
My mind literally went 🤯🤯🤯 when he flipped the camera. Like why didn’t I think of that.
@@JamesJacksonFilmz It is why I always say sometimes we lose our creative spirit when we decide beforehand what the camera can and can't do. A simple turn of the wrist and boom our mind is blown lol
This is the best review so far, beautiful images, real world uses, compatibility, no absurd comparisons. Great work.
I just want to say it’s great to see another channel finally look at dynamic range at 800 instead of 400 iso. Been doing my own testing and showing on my channel and found that 800 is an overall better balanced iso vs 400. 400 is great if your in need of cleaner blacks but the increase in highlight performance outweighs the raise of noise at 800 making it, imo a better Balanced image at the lower iso.
Was waiting on this review from this channel. Even took delivery of the camera already, still seated! Love your in-depth perspective.
I’ve been extremely impressed with mine. Best camera on the market by far
He got that sleeper build 💪
OOOoo thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a couple multi-focus anamorphic pipelines that I'd like to test (Bolex, Sankor), but the new generation of anamorphics really intrigues me. Pavo and Blazar / Remus in particular.
That's actually pretty decent at vertical video. I never thought about that. Throw a nice handle on the side and it's golden for that.
That Remus/Pyxis combo though!!!
SHEESH
We are SOOOOOO spoiled that this is even a thing at this price.
Those V35 Schneiders look so nice!
one of our favorite sets!!!
man, the mid49 cage really does look the best. I know we probably never will, but I'd love to see Arri do a PCA set for the pixys, even if it costs as much as the camera itself. A lot of people are saying that it'll make a great B cam to the Alexas, it'd be nice if they used the same accessory ecosystem.
Either that or mid49 needs to develop a cage for the mini LF and the 35.
If you wanna go a step further and nail the Arri look on Pyxis or any Blackmagic since the 4k, then I highly recommend the Emotive Color LUT pack that was made for the BMPCC 6K since it's very compatible with the PYXIS. Phantom LUT or Buttery LUT ain't got a damn on it. I still use my Lumix GH4/5 version of the LUT pack and it makes my cameras look like a legit arri.
The best thing about the LUT pack is that it can apply the look and come out the other end as an Arri LogC file, meaning you can then go on grading the Log footage as if it were an actual Arri and get that high end Arri look (without the latitude of course)
Are all DZO Pavos covering the OG FF ? Though there were S35 lenses ! Nice camera review ! Love this channel
So the 40 and up cover, going lower we use the kipon 1.25x expander
@@NorthwestCameraCo Thanks for the answer. Those lense seems very great.
@@EXTREME_PATATOR we love them here. t5.6 looks fantastic on them.
Your content is great man. Thank you.
Love your content! Big thanks from Sweden!
this plus Blazar lens will be my setup next year. Ive needed an upgrade for quite some time.
I been doing a lot of research for my first serious cinema camera. Great video. I thinking I'm getting this one. My mind is all made up. My only concern since there's different ones. I am aiming to get the PL. Is that a good choice?
It's nice. Love to test here in Bangkok soon.
It's amazing that you recovered all the information at +6 overexposed. It would be great to see how it compares against your Arri camera
In the video under chapter 07:30
@@NorthwestCameraCo But that section says it's the BMCC 6k Pro, which I'm assuming you meant the previous version of the full frame because there was no "Pro" version. But if the electronics of the Pyxis improve the image, in what areas would that be? Shadows and highlghts?
@@leebrandt8597 Yes its Cinema 6k FF. Not the pocket 6k. It was labeled wrong.
Awesome. Gracias.
A lot of good practical points!
Damn those blazar remus and pyxis combo is 🔥
It's. the DZO Pavo, better lenses ;)
Awesome video. Loved the tips. But the cage is half the price of that camera😮😂
Thanks! Have you had the opportunity to compare it with the Mavo LF camera? They say there is the same sensor, similar dynamic range.
Still waiting on getting our hands on a Mavo. Been on our list for a long time!
Mavo LF is great, the advantage I see in Pyxis is that it records in Braw
Great review ! About adapters, I can't find the PL to L adapter on Breakthrough website, they only have a PL to RF, you might have a prototype on yours ?
breakthrough.photography/products/cinema-dfm?variant=42561526562991
@@NorthwestCameraCo any difference between the Cinema DFM ($1,000) and regular DFM ($400) mounts? They look identical to me.
@@kassdrew cinema dfm is cartridge based so you can do nd etc. non dfm is just the standard mount.
@@NorthwestCameraCo ahhh of course. Thanks. Definitely need the cartridge version.
Amazing camera. Pocket 4K is still best for the money
Still rocking the pocket 4K with the .64xl speed booster
@@MtZionMediaPro I’m using the .71 ultra with the legend sigma 18-35
Dang. Hadn't thought about using it for vertical like that. I don't even like vertical video, but that'd be great for hand held simple shooting of personal stuff.
Great! good camera. I'm worried that its cost in the new case is approaching the cost of the kinefinity LF 6k. Black magic is of course cheaper, but it is better to know the difference between them. After all, it is unknown whether these cameras are equal or not.
Why is the Varicam the only camera that has the same DR at 800 and 5000? Is it patent issue or technology thing?
A couple quick questions. 1. I love you. 2. Does that cage get in the way of the drop in filter from Breakthrough?
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Great channel! Earned a sub.
Would love to see you all get your hands on the Ursa Cine 12K!!
us too!
So for you slightly better rolling shutter is 250% better rolling shutter. Now I now numerically what you guys mean by "slightly".
Good in-depth video, When shooting vertical content ive read the screen doesn't rotate/orient to vertical when rotating the camera with the side screen now facing upward, is that the case?
currently yes however id imagine black magic adds this on the next update
Holy shucks! Bare to its form factor for reels, is sick!
at 7:24 is that noise or youtube compression?
We had to rip this from an old video that we since deleted. So probably RUclips compression.
ugh, this really makes me want to get one...
Planning to purchase, can't decide which mount to choose. I have a decent set of EF cine lenses, but will likely be renting anamorphics from NWCC on a project-by-project basis. What's your lens inventory say?
You can do everything with L mount. L to EF, L to PL, L to LPL
@@NorthwestCameraCo what do you think about the robustness of the connection using adaptors? I assume it's not the same as having a native PL mount (or native EF mount).
That monitor is fine, it’s just on the wrong side.
@@blackicestudios and 1.5 inches bigger
Does the Nisi Athena’s fit on the l to pl breakthrough adapter?
They do. One of the main reasons we love the BT system. Best flange depth clearance of any cartridge based systems.
Wondering how it compares to the FX3 - Working as a small crew
@@michaelfrymus personally while being a bit bigger I think it’s much easier to work with.
@@NorthwestCameraCo okay.
I'm also trying to see how it compares image quality and features, but not much info yet.
@@michaelfrymusoh I’d take this image quality wise over fx3 any day of the week.
@@NorthwestCameraCowhat makes the image better in your opinion? Dynamic range is better on the FX3, so it has to be something else. Maybe you could be a little more specific. Thanks.
@@gundisrambo9054 Dynamic range is pretty similar to FX3 just weighted differently. FX3 is 10bit as this is 12 so theres a large color information difference as well as just personal bias when it comes to color in general.
Hi,what's your opinion on low light performance of this camera?
its decent!
What mount are you using for the drop in VND? And did you go L mount to PL?
@@4Him94 yea we put a link in another comment. L to PL breakthrough filters DFM system
Does it have built in nd filters? Does it have autofocus? Thanks !
@@Sneaky-Sneaky no built ins from the factory but if you are using PL lenses there are lots of cartridge style solutions. And no AF.
If this had better readout speed and internal NDs.. I'd be all about it.. but the terrible rolling shutter and lack of internal ND in 2024 is a no go for me
honestly once you run it through the warp situation in resolve, its essentially on par with c400/c500/Burano and mostly not noticeable during 90% of shooting to a DP's eye. General public probably wouldn't care if its readout speed was 75ms.
@NorthwestCameraCo fixing it in post is not my love language and i would never present a "we can fix it later" to a client. There's cameras with far faster readout speed and internal nds . This is a cool start for bm. But for me, I just couldn't use it in a paid environment
I'll wait till BMD inevitably release a Mk 11 which needs the built in ND filters this model should have had from Day 1. No excuse. We might even see a classic BMD price reduction.
ill get one when they up the 4k fps to 120 minimum.
So sad about the bad rolling shutter on this camera, you can't correct it if the camera is not moving and has no gyro data for example if an object is moving fast in the frame which is sad, otherwise it would've been perfect for the price
sample footage looks like cheap h265. thats why lenses is very important if using a cheap camera like this.
Use a Sony a-series and you'll get much, much better colour and image quality.
The image from the Blackmagic pockets is better than the image from all Sony alpha cameras unless you’re shooting RAW. You can’t beat the Sonys for convenience like autofocus though.
Sony has always excelled in ergonomics, possibly even over picture in their dedicated video cameras. IMO, the 'floating' electronic internal ND built into the FS5, FS7 II and FX6 will trump this camera every time, irrespective of picture quality. Given you can pick up 14 stop D/R FS7 IIs now for just $1500, that's where I'll stay for the time being.
Sorry What?? and this is coming from someone who currently owns Sony cinema cameras and have used Sony cameras since the PD-150
Handheld = sloppy as hell. Bad operator, or flimsy camera?
Cool now make something creative with it.
thats what we hope everyone does with every camera they purchase!