Just a quick knee jerk correction while I’m watching this: Maybe somebody already pointed this out but you *can* use HDMI monitors with the Pyxis. You just need a USB-C to HDMI cable. Carry on.
It's not only limited to 1080p but also forced to 60fps unfortunately and does not work with Teradek and likely other HDMI-only wireless systems (I only have the HDMI version and it doesn't work with the PYXIS). Spoke with BM Customer Support and they actually were blown away that I was getting a signal at all and said the USB-C was not designed to be adapted to HDMI. 🤷🏻♂
@@Gloryvisuals I'm sure there are lots of limitations. The only reason I mentioned it is just so people are aware that it is an option even though your millage may vary. I would assume this would only be a stop-gap measure until the Pyxis monitor comes out. Let's face it, most people will get one simply because of the camera control and price. I'm holding off getting a Pyxis till it comes out exactly because of this.
There's no perfect camera out there, and what Blackmagic Design is doing, to be honest, is amazing, and it's time people start giving them their flowers. It's like some people are paid to talk trash about a brand that's trying hard to help indie filmmakers.
I remember the first time I tried a blackmagic camera, it's just a joy to work with. People who write badly obviously have no idea about creativity and real meaning of word "cinematic".
@tifanus Some of these people are creators who want to use a Cinema camera for their content. The thing is, Blackmagic cameras are for indie filmmakers and high-end productions. These people are used to auto-focus cameras. Blackmagic cameras are for people who want to take their filmmaking career to the next level. I truly love Blackmagic for giving us the option to compete with other high-end products.
@tifanus, these cameras are not for everyone, unfortunately. Most of the people complaining are content creators who want to use a Cinema camera. That's just the truth, these cameras are made for indie filmmakers and those who want to take their production to the next level.
All blackmagic needs to do to silence all the critics is to give us 4K at 120fps via a firmware update. And announce the pro version of the Pyxis coming in June 2025.
I'm not sure why everyone is so annoyed when cameras have the slightest bit of rolling shutter. Anything under 25 or 30 ms in completely useable in my opinion, unless you are shooting anamorphic. We also have to take in consideration that the Sony a6400, (the one I use for my films) which is an APS-C camera, meaning that the readout would be assumed to be faster, has a readout of 40 ms, which is barely enough readout to shoot 4k in 24 fps, and basically unusable. Great video! The points you brought up were spot on, and the video was funny too. "Sony burrito" made me laugh.
Comparing a 16x9 readout, Pyxis is on par with Burano and slightly faster than the FX9 apparently. While I have heard some criticism regarding RS performance on Burano, I can‘t seem to remember ever hearing people complain about the FX9.
Quite often I have seen big hollywood movies having rolling shutter. For example train or car interior shots, anything moving outside the windows are distorted 45 degrees, nobody cares. So I dont know why youtube creators get so sensitive about rolling shutter.
@@Siimkristjanpariis Exactly! They the RUclipsrs just need something to complain about in their videos so they get more watch time and audience interaction 🙄
Great video! I'm seriously considering this camera as A-cam next to my current FX3 that I will sit permanently in my ring grip as a dedicated gimbal cam.
I like your funny storytelling - shows the absurdity of so much of what's out there. Great camera, not for everyone, but for the money, I think it's peerless really. I also think you could pair it with any high end camera effortlessly.
I know the Pyxis just came out but ever since I saw the footage from the Ursa 12k LF, I’ve been thinking: what if they made a Pyxis 12k with the same sensor? DREAM CAMERA!
Thanks for the clear statement in low light for these type of cameras. Also nobody would complain about noisy Arri footage in low light. I´m a big B-Raw fan in terms of file size and quality you get.
Funny you mention it. I was comparing some Alexa Mini LF footage shot at ISO 3200 to Pyxis ISO 3200 footage and while the Pyxis does look worse (because it's not a $100,000 camera), I'm 100% sure that most people who find ISO 3200 on the Pyxis unusable, would say the same about the Mini LF footage if they didn't know what camera it was.
Spijtig dat je hem moet terugsturen. Anders kwam ik wel even langs om hem uit te testen. Bedankt voor de review. Have fun. PS : You can edit BRAW directly in FCP ;-) with an amazing plugin.
@@JorisHermans Volgens de uitleg die ik gezien en gehoord heb wel ja. En zelfs meer want je kan bepaalde dingen keyframen. Het is wel anders maar ook. Geen transcoding. Lange review : ruclips.net/video/ieYa4YIHXB8/видео.html Korte review : ruclips.net/video/cubE8VwZRh4/видео.html
I love this video; people should know that one camera can't do it all. Also, what works for you, and do you do tons of research to find what meets your needs and requirements? Someday, I hope to have a BM camera, which is unnecessary now.
Finally the only youtuber that addresses this low light BS 😂 Even though low light capability is definitely amazing but most people don't know how to expose properly
@@stevenceballosfilmsYup, I spoke with BM Customer Support and they actually were blown away that I was getting a signal at all and said the USB-C was not designed to be adapted to HDMI. 🤷🏻♂
the issue with people is that they dont know how to push their cameras. its a series of variables that you need to “tick” in order to get a great image
I agree with just about every point you made! I do wish rolling shutter performance was better, but it’s a reasonable sacrifice at this price point. One quick note though, BRAW works in Adobe Premiere & After Effects with a free plugin from Blackmagic. Also, people are complaining about the lack of standard ProRes, not ProRes Raw. This is mostly for shooters who have to deliver to other post houses that don’t want raw codecs.
According to some readout Data from CineD, which ProAV put into a handy chart in their Pyxis Video, Rolling Shutter Performance with regard to a 17x9/16x9 sensor area, is actually on par with Burano and slightly better than FX9.
Tbf using a lowlight camera is rarely about wanting to make night into day, yes you can do that, but it's rare you'd want to. What you can do though is shoot at f8 indoors or expose correctly when the lighting is bad, or you can massively reduce your lighting requirements by dimming your key light and using ambient lights etc etc. it's a creatively powerful tool. But yes, the entire selling point of the blackmagic cameras isn't versatility, but image quality and price first. I always want an autofocus low light camera to hand because most situations are improved with that as an option. However i am thinking of getting or renting this for more commercial/cinematic work. Crazy thing is, it's hard to go wrong with anything at this price point. Soooo many ways to go right these days. Just tempted by the raw workflow and pro connections and Blackmagic ecosystem.
Totally agree about low light 12000 ISO on Sony cams. It’s just more flexibility and usability. The Pyxis is not as well suited for doc work with no built in ND, AF, or as good of low light, but man.. I love that 6k open gate 3:2 sensor! Sony please!!!!!
If you purchased a camera today for a solo creator who short films, doc work, and travel content, would you choose a Sony Fx3, Canon R5 mark2, or Sony zve-1 any other suggestions? Keep up the good work
FX3/FX30 out of this group. What ever you do prioritize the lens and lighting over the camera body. That's where your quality comes from and a greater resale value. Camera bodies depreciate like cars, a good lens doesn't. I'm currently running the $1200 FX30 with a $10k 40mm Atlas Anamorphic. It's a heavy rig but at this level, the idea of prioritizing your lens and lighting over the body is still the same. Once you start getting into the $30 k + Cameras like the V Raptor, Sony Burano, Sony Venice, ARRI LF cameras things start to level out. There is also client perception to factor in as well. If you plan to do doc work, the Sony FX6 would be your best bet if you can swing it. It's small enough to run and gun but big enough to impress your clients.
I agree abiut the low thing. Run and gun shooters may need a camera capable of increasing lack of light. But this is a cinema camera, you should light your scene correctly. I never had a problem with Blackmagic camera in a low light situation.
Best video on the topic yet. Well done. It’s very hard to beat this camera for the price and considering large budget features are starting to adopt the BM Cine cameras, the Pyxis will become very popular. Add in Resolve studio for free, a beautiful workflow where proxies are created in camera and do not require any additional steps when setting up editorial, stunning images, incredible latitude in color, audio solutions aftermarket and the best monitor solution powered by the camera. You don’t have to like the Pyxis if you are a Red or Sony fanboy, but dumb criticism is just that.
9:38 Most people complain about the lack of ProRes in general since older blackmagic cameras gave you the choice. And you can edit BM-Raw in premiere and Avid if I am not misstaken, there are plugins for that.
Love this video. There's a certain YT "expert" who talked about the Pyxis (won't say his name but his initials are MT) and his footage looked like shit compared to yours.
The dynamic range is an honest 13 stops, about the same as the FX3. 3200ISO is plenty for low light shooting. The rolling shutter is totally fine, never an issue. The colors and highlight rolloff on the other hand make for a more pleasing image than what comes out of the FX3. I do miss the FX3’s 120 fps, and the convenient size.
Yep, the Sony low light myth is all about the baked in noise reduction and sharpening that you can’t turn off. People don’t realize there is a difference between sharpness and detail.
People never seem to bring up how badly the color and dynamic range suffers at 12,800 ISO either. It’s a great feature to have, and I’m glad Sony offered it, but it comes with some major caveats!
Hi @Joris Hermans. Great video as always. Could u pls make video about best monitor recorder at the range 300-600$? I'm trying to check the market but there is a looot of misinformation going on... peace!
ProRes is not an issue. From Fusion Studio, with the Saver node, you can export to ProRes in six different compressions: 422, 422 HQ, 422 LT, 422 Proxy, 4444, and 4444 XQ. Your Davinci Resolve Studio license works with Fusion Studio for free. An internal ND system would still be inferior to and less flexible to a NiSi Swift True Color VND, for example.
@@andynonimuss6298 It´s not about exporting/transcoding BRAW to ProRes. Often there are projects, where you just don´t need to record in a raw codec (e.g (social media-) Agency work where you just work as a camera operator and don´t edit it yourself) or you want to save more space. And transcoding just would produce more work, where you often don´t have time for. And unfortunately, the Pyxis ist not a camera for that kind of work, although it could/should be in that price range.
Thanks for the video & agree with your points. So much parroting of misinformation about camera tech. Just about any modern camera can produce excellent results if used correctly. Lots of information available online to make a good choice for individual requirements.
I think the only thing stopping me from getting one of these is it lacks a fast turnaround codec, how hard can it be? My favorite kind of jobs are the ones I don't have to do any editing.
Well it could flip out, its a few hinges so why not?! The ursa has a similar mechanism Also its such a pretty screen it would be a shame not to use it, more options is always better
Hello, it is 18 in 17:9 6K in open gate it is more around 25ms, it is not terrible, but yes controlled it is not that much bad... it is just that it is because of that that no 120p is possible or 60p in opengate, there it would be atrocious.
Oh boy, just prepare for the hate mails from other camera companies fan boys. Red fan boys better not come in here talking shits. I love Red, blackmagic, Nikon, canon, and Sony. I am waiting for my Pyxis 6K, I will purchase the Komodo X in the first quarter of 2025 for my new production business. The Pyxis is my 2nd camera from BM and the Komodo will be my first camera from Red.
08:56 Ah yes, the Sony Burrito 🌯-loaded with a full-frame of flavor and a side of crispy autofocus. 😂 I see you, wrapping up that pun just to watch us all zoom in on it. Smooth move, my guy, smooth move. 👀
@JorisHermans Are you calling other people stupid because they would have loved to see a Blackmagic Ursa Mini flippy type off screen on the Pyxis? It would have been extra nice + the screen quality is good enough for it. No troll here btw! 07:19
Nope, not exactly the same senor as the 6K. It's a tweaked 6K sensor per insider reports. BM also tweaked it again in the latest Camera 9.1.1 image processing update. The Pyxis also has a better thermal design. ProRes is not an issue. From Fusion Studio, with the Saver node, you can export to ProRes in six different compressions: 422, 422 HQ, 422 LT, 422 Proxy, 4444, and 4444 XQ. Your Davinci Resolve Studio license works with Fusion Studio for free. An internal ND system would still be inferior and less flexible to a NiSi Swift True Color VND, for example.
I don't know what people are expecting for $3k? It's so ridiculous that people keep complaining about RS while whipping the camera back and forth. What kind of video are you making that requires you to do that in the first place? 2nd, no one is using the onboard flip out monitor as their main monitor. So why does it matter that this one is on the side?
I have a 6k full frame, same sensor. i would never shoot anything other than 400 iso if i could avoid it. Compared to any modern camera, including the pocket line,(hell even my p4k), the second iso circuit is TERRIBLE. That footage you shot looks great ,but thats not "extreme low light" its just dark ish. You go extreme on this camera and you will see very nasty cmos streaking. Do not buy this camera if you plan to shoot documentary style stuff or extremely run and gun stuff in dark environments. Its just BAD. And this is coming from a mainly blackmagic shooter. Now on the upside, if you expose right at 400 iso, which is where youll probably sit most times on this camera, being a production camera, you will be GOLD, image is beautiful.(and yes even 1250 iso kinda sucks.)
the other day I was shooting with my A7R3 that I bought used and the picture was beautiful ... I think the vibe around cameras is completly overrated, specially if videos end on youtube
Can ANYONE answer the de-squeeze issue. You can't get it in the menu options as far as preview de-squeeze goes. This is a crime shame as that 3:2 sized FF sensor is SCREAMING put anamorhpics on me. If the Pyxis monitor doesn't address this, that's a huge flop IMHO.
Piece, brother, piece. I am not loyal, but I am lazy. Hate learning a new menu system and button layout/function every time switch brands. For me, IBIS is the most important thing, getting old and have to process it out. Hate doing it all in post. Thanks.
Why not use a stabilizer of sorts? Just curious. Also, haven’t had a chance to try it yet but it seems the built-in gyro stabilizer is much faster than optical analysis and will get you better results than IBIS anyways 💪🏼 Also, as a long-time Sony user and someone who just bought the Pyxis as my first BM camera, the menus are SO much easier to use than any other brand.
@@kunstspielklavier185 I divided one by 48. Cinematographers used to have panning speed charts to mitigate shutter artifacts for different lens focal lengths. Now people just complain.
Weren‘t shutter artefacts on film different though? Less noticeable too? Also would the math not be different? Would the speed of the shutter not be more dependent on the speed the shutter was moving at and not so much the framerate. Sure the film would be exposed for 1/48th of a second assuming a 180° Angle and a framerate of 24fps, but would the actual speed with which the shutter moves in front of the gate not be dependent on the rotational speed as well as size and positioning of the shutter itself as well as the size of the filmgate? Also since the shutter was rotating therefore not moving horizontally to the film gate, would this not also affect the appearance of artifacts? As far as I remember some shutters where position next to the film gate others (mirror shutters) below. In the first example the shutter might move „vertically“ across the gate while the second should have the shutter move „horizontally“ creating much different artifacts. Your calculation seems like an oversimplification to me. How would you get 20ms of „readout“ time from dividing 1 by 48? Would 20.8ms not be the time the film is exposed? The rolling shutter on film would not be exposure time but the time it takes for the shutter to move out of the lights path to open the film gate and then in front of the film gate to cover it fully. This time should be faster than the 1/48th of a second. Assuming a rotary shutter with a radius of 50mm to cover a filmgate of 24mm by 13.5mm comfortably and further assuming an exposure time of 20.8ms (1/48th at 24fps) and a shutter angle of 180°, any point traveling on said shutter at a distance of 20mm (assuming 30mm of shutter width to cover the film gate) would be moving at a speed of about 125mm in 1/24th of a second. Approximating a distance of 20mm from the shutter disks Center to the lower left (a) and upper left (b) corner of the film gate respectively the shutters edge would have to rotate about 40° to move over the film gate once. This would mean the shutter takes about 1/216th of a second (roughly 4ms) to move across the film gate. Even acknowledging that the shutter has to move across the film gate twice, once to open and once to close, you should still get about 8ms of actual „rolling shutter“. I could be wrong though.
@@kunstspielklavier185 I was being a little facetious. There are of course a lot of variables. A mechanical shutter is out of focus, which will make the effect softer, but more prolonged. There are also different shutter designs. Mitchell cameras had like a 220° opening and spun faster, limiting artifacts. Arri cameras had two openings and spun half as fast, making the effects stronger. Aatons had multi blade shutters too I think. The larger point is that this has always been a feature of cinema and it’s not something to just reject outright.
Nice work my guy - you’re a rare breed, a RUclipsr reporting on cameras that actually understands how a digital sensor works. So hard to see so many of the videos you’re talking about in this video. High five to you !!!
I'm a Blackmagic fan boy replacing my Pocket 6k Pro with the Pyxis. I wanted it to live on my Ronin S4 Pro but I found it to be a little too big and too heavy! Another con coming from the Pocket FF is the batteries are different and no HDMI. It's definitely a new ecosystem. I'm still using it as my A cam now either rigged up handheld or on a tripod. Overall, it's great to have this form factor.
@theblmcgroup it's not for no reason. It's a flaw of the sdi system on ALL cameras. All you need to do is follow the correct procedure. Last in, last out. Edit: It's Last in, FIRST out 😅
@@JorisHermans I get that, that's why I said sometimes because some people don't connect them right. But Ive also “heard” they are burning out in the middle of a shoot.🤷🏾♂️
I guess it is not strange that people want a better camera then the previous camera they own when they buy a new camera. So, if you introduce an entry level cinema camera to the market then nearly only new users of cinema cameras will be impressed. For all other cinema camera users it will be a downgrade of what they already have. If you also have almost no real functioning camera when you start because you don't have a monitor, flip out screen or viewfinder or even a battery then how can't be really happy with your new camera. This does not mean that it is not a good deal for new people who also have the money to make the rig complete but for most users this is not a really good deal. They either have something that is already just as good or better or they are not able yet to make the rig complete.
![PYXIS 6K & bmcc6k LOW LIGHT & SENSOR Explained! [Dual Gain VS Dual Native ISO w/ Comparison Footage]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jqbfBTukfmk/mqdefault.jpg)
Just a quick knee jerk correction while I’m watching this: Maybe somebody already pointed this out but you *can* use HDMI monitors with the Pyxis. You just need a USB-C to HDMI cable.
Carry on.
it seems to be limited to 1080p so zooming in for focus might yield worse results than with the pyxis monitor. tho its not 100% clear
It's not only limited to 1080p but also forced to 60fps unfortunately and does not work with Teradek and likely other HDMI-only wireless systems (I only have the HDMI version and it doesn't work with the PYXIS). Spoke with BM Customer Support and they actually were blown away that I was getting a signal at all and said the USB-C was not designed to be adapted to HDMI. 🤷🏻♂
@@Gloryvisuals I'm sure there are lots of limitations. The only reason I mentioned it is just so people are aware that it is an option even though your millage may vary. I would assume this would only be a stop-gap measure until the Pyxis monitor comes out. Let's face it, most people will get one simply because of the camera control and price. I'm holding off getting a Pyxis till it comes out exactly because of this.
There's no perfect camera out there, and what Blackmagic Design is doing, to be honest, is amazing, and it's time people start giving them their flowers. It's like some people are paid to talk trash about a brand that's trying hard to help indie filmmakers.
I remember the first time I tried a blackmagic camera, it's just a joy to work with. People who write badly obviously have no idea about creativity and real meaning of word "cinematic".
@tifanus Some of these people are creators who want to use a Cinema camera for their content. The thing is, Blackmagic cameras are for indie filmmakers and high-end productions. These people are used to auto-focus cameras. Blackmagic cameras are for people who want to take their filmmaking career to the next level. I truly love Blackmagic for giving us the option to compete with other high-end products.
@tifanus, these cameras are not for everyone, unfortunately. Most of the people complaining are content creators who want to use a Cinema camera. That's just the truth, these cameras are made for indie filmmakers and those who want to take their production to the next level.
@@emmanuelOfilms I agree with you my friend.
You have the most balanced reviews ❤
All blackmagic needs to do to silence all the critics is to give us 4K at 120fps via a firmware update.
And announce the pro version of the Pyxis coming in June 2025.
I agree, and add internal NDs to the Pro version.
@@JorisHermans and image stabilization, variable ND, autofocus and then il buy one
@@camrowe466 and itll be at 6999.
I'm not sure why everyone is so annoyed when cameras have the slightest bit of rolling shutter. Anything under 25 or 30 ms in completely useable in my opinion, unless you are shooting anamorphic. We also have to take in consideration that the Sony a6400, (the one I use for my films) which is an APS-C camera, meaning that the readout would be assumed to be faster, has a readout of 40 ms, which is barely enough readout to shoot 4k in 24 fps, and basically unusable.
Great video! The points you brought up were spot on, and the video was funny too. "Sony burrito" made me laugh.
Comparing a 16x9 readout, Pyxis is on par with Burano and slightly faster than the FX9 apparently. While I have heard some criticism regarding RS performance on Burano, I can‘t seem to remember ever hearing people complain about the FX9.
Quite often I have seen big hollywood movies having rolling shutter. For example train or car interior shots, anything moving outside the windows are distorted 45 degrees, nobody cares. So I dont know why youtube creators get so sensitive about rolling shutter.
@@Siimkristjanpariis Exactly! They the RUclipsrs just need something to complain about in their videos so they get more watch time and audience interaction 🙄
Great video! I'm seriously considering this camera as A-cam next to my current FX3 that I will sit permanently in my ring grip as a dedicated gimbal cam.
Goed gezegd Joris,
Altijd fijn om je reviews en tips te kijken! Keep up the good work!
I like your funny storytelling - shows the absurdity of so much of what's out there. Great camera, not for everyone, but for the money, I think it's peerless really. I also think you could pair it with any high end camera effortlessly.
I know the Pyxis just came out but ever since I saw the footage from the Ursa 12k LF, I’ve been thinking: what if they made a Pyxis 12k with the same sensor? DREAM CAMERA!
Thanks for the clear statement in low light for these type of cameras. Also nobody would complain about noisy Arri footage in low light. I´m a big B-Raw fan in terms of file size and quality you get.
Funny you mention it. I was comparing some Alexa Mini LF footage shot at ISO 3200 to Pyxis ISO 3200 footage and while the Pyxis does look worse (because it's not a $100,000 camera), I'm 100% sure that most people who find ISO 3200 on the Pyxis unusable, would say the same about the Mini LF footage if they didn't know what camera it was.
Spijtig dat je hem moet terugsturen. Anders kwam ik wel even langs om hem uit te testen. Bedankt voor de review. Have fun.
PS : You can edit BRAW directly in FCP ;-) with an amazing plugin.
Yep, heb ik een paar keer zien terugkomen in de commentaren! Krijg je dan dezelfde functionaliteiten als in Resolve?
@@JorisHermans Volgens de uitleg die ik gezien en gehoord heb wel ja. En zelfs meer want je kan bepaalde dingen keyframen.
Het is wel anders maar ook. Geen transcoding.
Lange review : ruclips.net/video/ieYa4YIHXB8/видео.html
Korte review : ruclips.net/video/cubE8VwZRh4/видео.html
I love this video; people should know that one camera can't do it all. Also, what works for you, and do you do tons of research to find what meets your needs and requirements? Someday, I hope to have a BM camera, which is unnecessary now.
Dude your reviews are so legit. Bravo! 👌
The camera is legit 🤷🏻♂️😎
Finally the only youtuber that addresses this low light BS 😂
Even though low light capability is definitely amazing but most people don't know how to expose properly
You can use a usb c to hdmi adaper to run a hdmi monitor
Yes, except for atomos ninja V monitors. I tried many cables and settings, doesn't work.
@@stevenceballosfilmsYup, I spoke with BM Customer Support and they actually were blown away that I was getting a signal at all and said the USB-C was not designed to be adapted to HDMI. 🤷🏻♂
the issue with people is that they dont know how to push their cameras. its a series of variables that you need to “tick” in order to get a great image
I agree with just about every point you made! I do wish rolling shutter performance was better, but it’s a reasonable sacrifice at this price point. One quick note though, BRAW works in Adobe Premiere & After Effects with a free plugin from Blackmagic. Also, people are complaining about the lack of standard ProRes, not ProRes Raw. This is mostly for shooters who have to deliver to other post houses that don’t want raw codecs.
I just saw a ProRes Raw comment 😉
@@JorisHermanshaha, okay fair! That’s definitely not the general consensus though.
According to some readout Data from CineD, which ProAV put into a handy chart in their Pyxis Video, Rolling Shutter Performance with regard to a 17x9/16x9 sensor area, is actually on par with Burano and slightly better than FX9.
Tbf using a lowlight camera is rarely about wanting to make night into day, yes you can do that, but it's rare you'd want to. What you can do though is shoot at f8 indoors or expose correctly when the lighting is bad, or you can massively reduce your lighting requirements by dimming your key light and using ambient lights etc etc. it's a creatively powerful tool.
But yes, the entire selling point of the blackmagic cameras isn't versatility, but image quality and price first. I always want an autofocus low light camera to hand because most situations are improved with that as an option. However i am thinking of getting or renting this for more commercial/cinematic work. Crazy thing is, it's hard to go wrong with anything at this price point. Soooo many ways to go right these days. Just tempted by the raw workflow and pro connections and Blackmagic ecosystem.
Totally agree about low light 12000 ISO on Sony cams. It’s just more flexibility and usability. The Pyxis is not as well suited for doc work with no built in ND, AF, or as good of low light, but man.. I love that 6k open gate 3:2 sensor! Sony please!!!!!
If you purchased a camera today for a solo creator who short films, doc work, and travel content, would you choose a Sony Fx3, Canon R5 mark2, or Sony zve-1 any other suggestions? Keep up the good work
Biased as a Sony guy, but the FX3 is still such an amazing camera for just about anything, from weddings to commercials to docs. Easy recommendation!
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FX3/FX30 out of this group. What ever you do prioritize the lens and lighting over the camera body. That's where your quality comes from and a greater resale value. Camera bodies depreciate like cars, a good lens doesn't. I'm currently running the $1200 FX30 with a $10k 40mm Atlas Anamorphic. It's a heavy rig but at this level, the idea of prioritizing your lens and lighting over the body is still the same.
Once you start getting into the $30 k + Cameras like the V Raptor, Sony Burano, Sony Venice, ARRI LF cameras things start to level out. There is also client perception to factor in as well. If you plan to do doc work, the Sony FX6 would be your best bet if you can swing it. It's small enough to run and gun but big enough to impress your clients.
I agree abiut the low thing. Run and gun shooters may need a camera capable of increasing lack of light. But this is a cinema camera, you should light your scene correctly. I never had a problem with Blackmagic camera in a low light situation.
Best pyxis review ever!
You didn't just say Sony Burrito, did you?😂😂😂
Best video on the topic yet. Well done. It’s very hard to beat this camera for the price and considering large budget features are starting to adopt the BM Cine cameras, the Pyxis will become very popular. Add in Resolve studio for free, a beautiful workflow where proxies are created in camera and do not require any additional steps when setting up editorial, stunning images, incredible latitude in color, audio solutions aftermarket and the best monitor solution powered by the camera. You don’t have to like the Pyxis if you are a Red or Sony fanboy, but dumb criticism is just that.
9:38 Most people complain about the lack of ProRes in general since older blackmagic cameras gave you the choice. And you can edit BM-Raw in premiere and Avid if I am not misstaken, there are plugins for that.
Always love the honesty... thanks, Joris 🤘🙏
If you are fine with no touch screen, you can use the usb c viewfinder with hdmi by using usb c to hdmi.
Love this video. There's a certain YT "expert" who talked about the Pyxis (won't say his name but his initials are MT) and his footage looked like shit compared to yours.
The dynamic range is an honest 13 stops, about the same as the FX3. 3200ISO is plenty for low light shooting. The rolling shutter is totally fine, never an issue. The colors and highlight rolloff on the other hand make for a more pleasing image than what comes out of the FX3. I do miss the FX3’s 120 fps, and the convenient size.
3200 iso is unusable though lol. I had a bmcc6k and is was horrendous at 3200
@@timekeepermedia5142I haven’t found that.
Isn't the front display port compatible with display port to hdmi cable?
You can attach HDMI via USB port and a cheap converter
The sony burrito 😂
Yep, the Sony low light myth is all about the baked in noise reduction and sharpening that you can’t turn off. People don’t realize there is a difference between sharpness and detail.
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People never seem to bring up how badly the color and dynamic range suffers at 12,800 ISO either. It’s a great feature to have, and I’m glad Sony offered it, but it comes with some major caveats!
@@baldwinvphow did they get on with it on the creator movie set? Ohhh yeah, pretty well 🙌🏼
@@philvfilms when did I ever say the FX3 was a bad camera? I said the opposite. That’s an odd thing to get defensive over.
A9iii the exception as shown by cineD and Geraldundone. ⚡
I trust you 100% because RUclipsrs are always right
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Hi @Joris Hermans. Great video as always. Could u pls make video about best monitor recorder at the range 300-600$? I'm trying to check the market but there is a looot of misinformation going on... peace!
Just hope that with a firmware update can update to 48fps in open gate, for the anamorphic shooters, apart of it, it’s perfect camera for budget
If it had more recording options than BRAW, like ProRes or any other All-Intra codec and Internal ND Filter, I would directly buy this camera.
ProRes is not an issue. From Fusion Studio, with the Saver node, you can export to ProRes in six different compressions: 422, 422 HQ, 422 LT, 422 Proxy, 4444, and 4444 XQ. Your Davinci Resolve Studio license works with Fusion Studio for free. An internal ND system would still be inferior to and less flexible to a NiSi Swift True Color VND, for example.
@@andynonimuss6298 It´s not about exporting/transcoding BRAW to ProRes. Often there are projects, where you just don´t need to record in a raw codec (e.g (social media-) Agency work where you just work as a camera operator and don´t edit it yourself) or you want to save more space. And transcoding just would produce more work, where you often don´t have time for. And unfortunately, the Pyxis ist not a camera for that kind of work, although it could/should be in that price range.
Just gonna stay put, with the S5IIX
Thanks for the video & agree with your points. So much parroting of misinformation about camera tech. Just about any modern camera can produce excellent results if used correctly. Lots of information available online to make a good choice for individual requirements.
I have no complaints about my one 👌
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I think the only thing stopping me from getting one of these is it lacks a fast turnaround codec, how hard can it be? My favorite kind of jobs are the ones I don't have to do any editing.
Well it could flip out, its a few hinges so why not?!
The ursa has a similar mechanism
Also its such a pretty screen it would be a shame not to use it, more options is always better
hi Joris, when are the winners being announced for the lens giveaway pls? ( camera looks great tho :D )
Soon! This week! 💯
Thanks 🙏
Hello, it is 18 in 17:9 6K in open gate it is more around 25ms, it is not terrible, but yes controlled it is not that much bad... it is just that it is because of that that no 120p is possible or 60p in opengate, there it would be atrocious.
What lens did you use to shoot the sample footage?
They sent me a Sigma 28-70 f/2.8.
Great job! Thank you!
Well said. Thanks!
9:43 wrong! There is a premiere plugin for braw.
So I've been told... 😎
Oh boy, just prepare for the hate mails from other camera companies fan boys. Red fan boys better not come in here talking shits. I love Red, blackmagic, Nikon, canon, and Sony. I am waiting for my Pyxis 6K, I will purchase the Komodo X in the first quarter of 2025 for my new production business. The Pyxis is my 2nd camera from BM and the Komodo will be my first camera from Red.
08:56 Ah yes, the Sony Burrito 🌯-loaded with a full-frame of flavor and a side of crispy autofocus. 😂 I see you, wrapping up that pun just to watch us all zoom in on it. Smooth move, my guy, smooth move. 👀
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I thought you were going to say “smooth move, exlax, smooth move”
@JorisHermans Are you calling other people stupid because they would have loved to see a Blackmagic Ursa Mini flippy type off screen on the Pyxis? It would have been extra nice + the screen quality is good enough for it. No troll here btw! 07:19
Nope, not exactly the same senor as the 6K. It's a tweaked 6K sensor per insider reports. BM also tweaked it again in the latest Camera 9.1.1 image processing update. The Pyxis also has a better thermal design. ProRes is not an issue. From Fusion Studio, with the Saver node, you can export to ProRes in six different compressions: 422, 422 HQ, 422 LT, 422 Proxy, 4444, and 4444 XQ. Your Davinci Resolve Studio license works with Fusion Studio for free. An internal ND system would still be inferior and less flexible to a NiSi Swift True Color VND, for example.
you are right
I don't know what people are expecting for $3k? It's so ridiculous that people keep complaining about RS while whipping the camera back and forth. What kind of video are you making that requires you to do that in the first place? 2nd, no one is using the onboard flip out monitor as their main monitor. So why does it matter that this one is on the side?
I think saying it's good in low light is wild considering at 3200 iso the footage is unusable but alrrrrighty then.
Great review, really appreciated your honest opinion/rebuttal to lots of the initial reactions people have had so far!
I got that one shooting independent american movies🇵🇪
Salut, en tot de volgende😂❤
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I have a 6k full frame, same sensor. i would never shoot anything other than 400 iso if i could avoid it. Compared to any modern camera, including the pocket line,(hell even my p4k), the second iso circuit is TERRIBLE. That footage you shot looks great ,but thats not "extreme low light" its just dark ish. You go extreme on this camera and you will see very nasty cmos streaking. Do not buy this camera if you plan to shoot documentary style stuff or extremely run and gun stuff in dark environments. Its just BAD. And this is coming from a mainly blackmagic shooter. Now on the upside, if you expose right at 400 iso, which is where youll probably sit most times on this camera, being a production camera, you will be GOLD, image is beautiful.(and yes even 1250 iso kinda sucks.)
the other day I was shooting with my A7R3 that I bought used and the picture was beautiful ... I think the vibe around cameras is completly overrated, specially if videos end on youtube
You do not need resolve to edit Braw. It's been native in premiere for yers now.
So, I' m gonna have to change my mind about Premiere now🤔😄
@@JorisHermans let me be clear. I have been reluctantly using premiere for a while now and want to jump to resolve. I’m just lazy and haven’t yet lol
You need the Blackmagic RAW plugin in order to edit Braw
Can ANYONE answer the de-squeeze issue. You can't get it in the menu options as far as preview de-squeeze goes. This is a crime shame as that 3:2 sized FF sensor is SCREAMING put anamorhpics on me. If the Pyxis monitor doesn't address this, that's a huge flop IMHO.
But it has desqueeze settings up to 2x in the menu (monitor settings).
Piece, brother, piece. I am not loyal, but I am lazy. Hate learning a new menu system and button layout/function every time switch brands. For me, IBIS is the most important thing, getting old and have to process it out. Hate doing it all in post. Thanks.
Why not use a stabilizer of sorts? Just curious. Also, haven’t had a chance to try it yet but it seems the built-in gyro stabilizer is much faster than optical analysis and will get you better results than IBIS anyways 💪🏼
Also, as a long-time Sony user and someone who just bought the Pyxis as my first BM camera, the menus are SO much easier to use than any other brand.
Film cameras have a 20 ms rolling shutter and nobody ever complained.
What? Where did you get that from?
@@kunstspielklavier185 I divided one by 48. Cinematographers used to have panning speed charts to mitigate shutter artifacts for different lens focal lengths. Now people just complain.
@@booneh They always avoided swish pans. And old film cameras were big too. Not easy to just 'swish'.
Weren‘t shutter artefacts on film different though? Less noticeable too?
Also would the math not be different? Would the speed of the shutter not be more dependent on the speed the shutter was moving at and not so much the framerate. Sure the film would be exposed for 1/48th of a second assuming a 180° Angle and a framerate of 24fps, but would the actual speed with which the shutter moves in front of the gate not be dependent on the rotational speed as well as size and positioning of the shutter itself as well as the size of the filmgate? Also since the shutter was rotating therefore not moving horizontally to the film gate, would this not also affect the appearance of artifacts? As far as I remember some shutters where position next to the film gate others (mirror shutters) below. In the first example the shutter might move „vertically“ across the gate while the second should have the shutter move „horizontally“ creating much different artifacts.
Your calculation seems like an oversimplification to me. How would you get 20ms of „readout“ time from dividing 1 by 48? Would 20.8ms not be the time the film is exposed? The rolling shutter on film would not be exposure time but the time it takes for the shutter to move out of the lights path to open the film gate and then in front of the film gate to cover it fully. This time should be faster than the 1/48th of a second. Assuming a rotary shutter with a radius of 50mm to cover a filmgate of 24mm by 13.5mm comfortably and further assuming an exposure time of 20.8ms (1/48th at 24fps) and a shutter angle of 180°, any point traveling on said shutter at a distance of 20mm (assuming 30mm of shutter width to cover the film gate) would be moving at a speed of about 125mm in 1/24th of a second. Approximating a distance of 20mm from the shutter disks Center to the lower left (a) and upper left (b) corner of the film gate respectively the shutters edge would have to rotate about 40° to move over the film gate once. This would mean the shutter takes about 1/216th of a second (roughly 4ms) to move across the film gate. Even acknowledging that the shutter has to move across the film gate twice, once to open and once to close, you should still get about 8ms of actual „rolling shutter“. I could be wrong though.
@@kunstspielklavier185 I was being a little facetious. There are of course a lot of variables. A mechanical shutter is out of focus, which will make the effect softer, but more prolonged. There are also different shutter designs. Mitchell cameras had like a 220° opening and spun faster, limiting artifacts. Arri cameras had two openings and spun half as fast, making the effects stronger. Aatons had multi blade shutters too I think. The larger point is that this has always been a feature of cinema and it’s not something to just reject outright.
I'm on the side of.....I don't give a rat's arse what anyone thinks of what I choose to buy or not buy. People just love yapping on the internet.
Nice work my guy - you’re a rare breed, a RUclipsr reporting on cameras that actually understands how a digital sensor works. So hard to see so many of the videos you’re talking about in this video. High five to you !!!
You can Edit Braw Footage on Premier Pro!
With all the functionalities you get in Resolve? 🤔
@@JorisHermans No its limited in Premiere
Red Komodo. Thanks.
I edit BRAW in Premiere all day long
very nice Video!
Its massive and rather heavy and by the time its rigged up with a monitor its becomes the same size and weight as a Ursa Mini
It's bigger than Komodo.
Get swole then 💪 😂
Usb-c to hdmi cable et tu pourras utiliser n importe quel moniteur externe ....
You made too much sense. People like to complain. It’s a great camera for the price…..lol
Please make a dedicated video about the PYXIS in low light conditions! Your footage in the early morning hours looks AMAZING!
Expect it next week!
I'm a Blackmagic fan boy replacing my Pocket 6k Pro with the Pyxis. I wanted it to live on my Ronin S4 Pro but I found it to be a little too big and too heavy! Another con coming from the Pocket FF is the batteries are different and no HDMI. It's definitely a new ecosystem. I'm still using it as my A cam now either rigged up handheld or on a tripod. Overall, it's great to have this form factor.
Do you try to use it with the battery on the ronin? I saw someone using it with a cable for power delivery on the rs3 pro
@@aftl_ryz8549 I'll try that! Sounds like that would be awesome
My only concern with the Pyxis is the SDI port burning out sometimes for no reason. Why? Furthermore, downtime for repairs is not a good look.
@theblmcgroup it's not for no reason. It's a flaw of the sdi system on ALL cameras. All you need to do is follow the correct procedure. Last in, last out. Edit: It's Last in, FIRST out 😅
@@JorisHermans I get that, that's why I said sometimes because some people don't connect them right. But Ive also “heard” they are burning out in the middle of a shoot.🤷🏾♂️
@@JorisHermans I thought it was last in, first out ?
Right! 😅
nice ❤❤❤
i started a love affair with my Pyxis 😍😍😍 , and i use a usb--c to HDMI cable 😊
I guess it is not strange that people want a better camera then the previous camera they own when they buy a new camera. So, if you introduce an entry level cinema camera to the market then nearly only new users of cinema cameras will be impressed. For all other cinema camera users it will be a downgrade of what they already have. If you also have almost no real functioning camera when you start because you don't have a monitor, flip out screen or viewfinder or even a battery then how can't be really happy with your new camera. This does not mean that it is not a good deal for new people who also have the money to make the rig complete but for most users this is not a really good deal. They either have something that is already just as good or better or they are not able yet to make the rig complete.
I like your balanced comment but remember: I'm the youtuber, I'm always right. 🙃
@@JorisHermans Je bent in ieder geval plezant 🤣
Lumix s9 better