i think the crit dmg or crit rate 5* claymore will soon be release in 1.5 or 1.6 along with that 5* claymore user that ice girl whatever her name is .... we don get any crit 5* claymore bc none other than diluc are wielding a claymore when it comes to 5* characters
Update: This is the newest video where i showcase my triple crowned c0 Diluc with 2.6k atk, 51 c rate, 200%+ c dmg, and 121 EM. Also comparing EM vs ATK Sands. ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html For all of you saying that I need to test with EM sands instead of ATK sands, y'all need to calm down and chill 😊. The reason I'm using this build is to test diluc's damage if it doesn't rely on vaporize and, not everyone has xingqiu / knows the importance of xingqiu that he's the only character that can utilize diluc's EM for dps usage (if you're talking for one hit combo then it's on another topic). THE GOOD NEWS IS, I've been planning to make a crowned c0 diluc video with another build where I'll be testing EM vs ATK sands.
@@palindromo3365 the blackcliff slasher is better only if you want to do a big PP damage (needs to be full stack). As for overall damage and consistent damage, it’s going to be WGS. So you aren’t dumb using WGS, because the WGS does better DPS.
@@yami4797 I used to use kaeya for melt comp, but ever since i got xingqiu hes much better for vaporize. The problem with melt is it has long internal cooldown which suits better for one hit combos, not for doing big dps rotations.
I learned a lot from this, and I don’t even have/use Diluc! You really put in the time, dedication, and scientific process into this and I greatly appreciate it. Great presentation overall, even if it was a ton of information for a 7 minute video. But it’s amazing the possibilities you can get in the game by just messing around with different weapons and artifact builds! Your video gave me lots of ideas :)
@@ayameren6579 all that means is you’d run a cdmg circlet instead of a crit rate circlet. Cdmg circlet gives more cdmg than weapons anyways, except for Homa.
Besides, if you main two claymore wielding characters and you don't have enough prototypes, having the blackcliff slayer on one of them leaves the other with the prototype archaic
Yeah, how come every 5 star has a official weapon except Diluc, Keqing, Qiqi and Mona. Let's hope Mihoyo doesn't become lazy and create their own weapons.
Nobody: Not a single soul: Diluc: *You should bring the knights of favonius with you next time* Update: Newest triple crowned Diluc with 200%+ c dmg video ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html
@@wolfsgravestone3968 I dont know If it is a blessing or a curse cause I was literatly at 0 mora and 0 exp books... Raising him is taking só long... And he uses the same talent books as razor... Lolll
If only looking at solo damage, Max Stacks Blackcliff can quite easily challenge WGS; hell, even Serpent Spine can. WGS' biggest asset is the fact it buffs your entire party, not just Diluc himself; if WGS only boosts Diluc's Atk, it wouldn't nearly be as revered. Oh, and yes, Blackcliff is indeed a "budget Gravestone" if shelling out 24 starglitters is within your budget.
It's really interesting to see people still making content about Diluc, even though there is a lot of characters that outdamage him in the current meta. I have Hu tao and Xiao but i prefer using Diluc over them, probably because I got him quite early in the game and got used to him. Videonya bagus bang, keep up the good work 👍
Well, I guess because he is very fun to play, I guess. I am also diluc main because I feel like playing DMC when I play him. Not just spamming plunging attack.
What do you think about the comparison? Let me know in the comments down below! . *Translation* Gimana perbandingannya mnurut kalian? Kasi tau dong pendapat lo 😁
I think that one day, when Diluc limited banner comes, people will going crazy about it. (It’s possible since keging limited banner came last update). But seeing how diluc performs, being outshined by newer DPS, people would think twice about wishing on the banner. So Mihoyo will buff Diluc to keep the hype alive, so people will wish on Diluc banner, as much as they spend on the most successful banner like Xiao, Ganyu and Zhong li. Videonya keren! Artifactnya gokil.
The Buff I want for him is in his Talent, Replace that charged attack Talent with something like increase Pyro Damage by 10% when Diluc uses Elemental Skill. Dawn will no longer have DOT and Destination Damage, All multipliers will just be added to the 1st Slash.
The thing with EM sands is to fully utilize it you need Xingqiu, unless you wanna one hit for showcase then ok. But I'm using this balanced build because i assume not everyone have xingqiu to support diluc's EM. On the other hand, don't worry because I had a decent EM sands recently and planning to use it for my upcoming lv 90 c0 Crowned Diluc showcase (2.5k ATK, 50% crit 205% crit dmg 250+ EM), so just stay tuned.
This might sound crazy but I have been using rainslasher on diluc with xingqiu (xingqiu is essential for this) and the elemental reaction damage is insane
@@fullstrivetv7612 haha try it out that way you don't need EM sands and you can go ATK/Pyro/Crit Dmg but I stress that this will only work with xingqiu and maybe barbara during xingqius ability cooldowns (barbara E to apply wet status on enemies). It is alot of fun
@@yassassintm4234 nah i got WGS and blackcliff and im good with them, the problem with rainslasher like you said it's too dependent on supports to make elemental reactions and it makes diluc's raw pyro dmg become really underwhelming.
@@fullstrivetv7612 yes you are right it is just a fun build to try out while content is abit dead I wouldn't recommend it for sweaty players but if players want to have some fun and there are spare resources then why not
Nice content bro,put 2 subtitles is hard tho for indonesian people like me, detail information,resolution and graphic is not that bad..keep it up dude,i always support your channel
Heres the thing, not everyone has xingqiu, since the only character that can legit constantly vaporize with diluc is Xingqiu. I also have EM sands, but the build im showing here is the one anyone can use.
@George Joseph thanks for the comment. 1. I don't misdirect people, because I didn't say blackcliff is better than wgs, what I did say is it has potential that could rival wgs' dmg if it's at full stack compared to prototype even at r4 does mediocre output, and yes I did say that I'm not counting wgs' passive in this video (please watch carefully i mentioned this in the video). 2. I'm already planning to make a crowned c0 diluc video with EM sands vs Atk sands, so just chill and stay tuned my guy👍
@George Joseph aight we cool then! I get what you meant by people misunderstanding blackcliff could rival wgs' damage EVENTHOUGH I did mention the disclaimers beforehand. The intent of this video is not to show that Blackcliff is better than wolf's gravestone (unless it's r5 but that's on another topic), but on the other hand to show that it outdamages prototype archaic where people used to say archaic is better than blackcliff / blackcliff is just a waste of resources no matter the situation. I added Wolf's gravestone to the comparison because it's the benchmark of highest damage diluc can give among all the claymores (for now), and seeing that blackcliff could do almost the same numbers as Wolf's at full stack while prototype doesn't do anywhere as much (even at r4 refined), I conclude that it is the BUDGET Wolf's gravestone like I said in the video, if it's a budget it couldn't be better than the real thing right? But it's a budget, you get what I mean right xD. But then again I really appreciate your constructive criticism. I assume people got misled because they didn't watch it to the end of the video and immediately jump to conclusions, or maybe the disclaimers part is too short and I could work on this part better.
@George Joseph then do your own comparison🤔🤔🤔simple solution for simple problem...dont demand dude...your just nobody like the rest of human race🤔🤔🤔if you want better comparison do it your self dont push it to others🤔🤔🤔
i might be late, but imo just after your total attack reached 2k, start invest all on crit dmg. having too much attack with crt dmg below 200% will waste good dps apparently. good video comparison!
Diminishing return could occur on every stats. It could be on elemental mastery, crit rate, crit dmg, atk. So yeah, getting an ideally balanced stats is really hard, but worth the try. Anyways, update: my diluc has 2654 atk, 51% crit rate 207% crit dmg and 121 EM ( still using WGS and 4 crimson witch currently)
Just slap a wgs on diluc if you have it its really the best general option instantly curing your atk needs and it buffs team so its more valuable raw dmg isn't everything but blackcliff is still great
wow asli makasih banyak bang, ini video ada mana pas lagi butuhin makasih banyak buat semua penjelasannya dan udah buat video ini gua yang tadinya bingung jadi ngerti ini sangat membantu gua sebagai diluc main yang gak hoki wkwkwk tadinya bimbang mau pake senjata apa tapi setelah nonton ini jadi membulatkan tekad untuk beli blackliffnya sukses terus ya bang, gua auto subs ini mah
The advantage of having WGS is you can have Elemental Mastery sands for melt or vaporize comp. Stacking attack is not recommended with WGS since its passive both boosts attack already.
Makasih bang, jadi yakin buat ambil blackcliff slasher. Rencana awal mau ambil blackcliff pole buat zhongli tapi baru ingat dmg diluc+prototype msh kentang xD
One shines early the latter on the last stretch. Both have their uses. The WGS isn't overrated as it brings quite a lot to the table, definitely shines in harder content squeezing in that 20% party buff. The test wasn't conclusive enough as it didn't even include the WGS' effect into consideration. If anything, this video did show the viability of the blackcliff claymore.
What I mean by overrated is because some people jumped to conclusions on giving weapons to diluc by locking wolf's gravestone as the best weapon. Indeed it is the best weapon so far, but then people who don't get wgs instantly gave up on building diluc, it's like "if my diluc doesn't get wgs then my diluc ain't chad", whereas There's blackcliff slasher which is a very good option especially for f2ps. Therefore I said people tend to sleep on Blackcliff and it's underrated. Also, regarding the wgs passive not being put into test, if you watch closely on the disclaimers part (2:45), I clearly stated that i didn't put wgs passive on the test because it's just on a whole another level, assuming people knew wgs' passive overwhelms the test, so I thought i didn't need to bother putting it in. On the other note, I want to clear things that I never mentioned any statement saying Blackcliff is better than WGS (unless it's r5 blackcliff that's on another topic).
Just a suggestion, maybe use a simple typeface when you make the texts explaining things since this was too hard for me to read, or I have to decipher each word slowly to know what it is lol. Maybe use taller or regular fonts or increase the kerning for the text a little bit. Thanks for the video.
Blackliff slasher is pretty good but hard to domain. Because you need to kill enemies to unleash its true atk. Meanwhile WGS already give you a LOT of atk. However, its passive about 40% extra atk after hit an enemy with health remain less than 30% its kind of tricky. So Wolf's Gravestone wins in my opinion for giving you a HUGE atk constantly.
Sadly never been able to get my hands on WGS, so I went crazy and enhanced Blackcliff Slasher to R5. My Diluc is for second team and decent enough weapon. Also I think it's one of the best looking weapons on him.
ooh that must cost alot of starglitter should've just get R1 blackcliff who knows you might get wgs in the future, because once wgs procs that 40% atk buff for the whole team it's already as strong as blackcliff R5 if not better in some cases like fighting those Lectors and heralds and where there's only 1 - 3 enemies or like 4 Fatui that is so tough to kill so getting the fullstacks is gonna be so difficult for Blackcliff, if u have like Xingqui or mona and builds him around element mastery wgs is gonna be better no questions i'm hitting around 50k - 60k Vaporize/Melt per E using wgs with EM stats artifacts and C1 diluc the weapon is literally busted in general it's just a very good weapon the only weapon that can outdmg wgs is prolly the Unforged with it's passive being proc
@@kaltsit4539 I can confirm this. my c0 diluc's E skill with atk sands can deal 50-70k vaporize and 70-80k melt. But imagine if this dude got his wgs, and has another claymore dps, then wgs for diluc and the r5 blackcliff for razor / chongyun / etc. Would be worth it too dont u think?
First of all ur artifact is disgustingly GOD TIER i mean u have 64% cr with 172% cd without any bonus from weapon and secondly i used to main blackcliff bcuz like u said its underated and almost all vid on diluc doesnt mention blackliff and with blackcliff u can hit 200% cd easily. But recently i got wolf gravestone and I think wolf is still better compare to blackcliff bcuz wolf gives u alot of atk% so u can use EM sands to deal more dmg and still hv 2.5k atk. With wolf u can hv lots of atk and more em to deal insane dmg and pair it with xingqiu, its so good. Also my stats r 65% cr and 133% cd with 2.5k atk and 280 EM. With blackcliff i had to modified my artifact and my stats will be 61% cr and 225% cd 1.9k atk and 90 EM... With blackcliff i deal 140k and wolf 158k
lmao I appreciate the comment bro, i've been farming crimson witch since ar 45 (now 55), so yeahh... took months. Anyways, of course I didn't say that blackcliff is better than WGS tho. What I did say is that blackcliff can match wolf's gravestone damage, and no other weapon can match it up (except serpent spine at full stack with support shields it could match wgs probably). . By the way, stay tuned for my upcoming crowned diluc video, 186K on cryo regisvine, diluc's stats: 2.4k ATK, 50% c rate, 205% c dmg, and 289 EM.
@@fullstrivetv7612 thats is so true bcuz a lot of players says archaic is better bcuz blackcliff u need to kill something first to hv the passive but they dont know the value of 55% cd
I have both Blackcliff and Gravestone R1. For E,Q they will do similar dmg if your artifact are good. But your basic attacks will be comparitively very low in blackcliff making its dps lesser. Thus I will put gravestone way above it, in terms of dps.
Yes, I have both wgs and blackcliff and can confirm your statement. I mean the weapon is dope considering blackcliff is only a 4 star weapon. If there's a 5 star crit dmg claymore with insane passive, surely it would outdamage wolf's gravestone gravestone
@@sidhantbarthwal638 em sands will only outdamage atk sand if you play constant vaporize reaction with xingqiu (for dps only xingqiu can do it well). Other than that, it's better to stick with atk sands.
you should try testing the Unforged against Wolf's Gravestone although it's basically the same but different passives, i still need either Wolf's Gravestone or Unforged for my Diluc ;-;
I dont think he has an Unforged, but from seeing some Diluc Whales I think wolfs passive is better at low refinement, is high refinements what can make The Unforged really good.
Gravestone is better agains little ennemies but unforced is better for boss. Because of the passive of gravestone. You will do more constancy damage with unforged.
Bold of you to assume I would want Wolf's Gravestone because of the damage The real reason I want it is the desing If I ever get it, I will use on Razor just because it has "Wolf" in the name
Really good video! Also gives me a good impression for Diluc's overal damage buffed and unbuffed One question; what are your talent lvls and constellation?
Thanks! I really appreciate it 🙏, oh yeah I forgott to mention the talents. It's level 7, 8 and 9 respectively (autos, E, and ult). Diluc is c0 because I'm not the ceo of google 😂
Honestly he's really fun to play (my husband lol) even tho I have yae rn or maybe other claymore user like razor and maybe in the future I'll pull ayaka/ayato I can make any of them for my main dps, there's so many meta burst one hit. but..but diluc.. still the winner of my heart lolol
💯 exactly, and if you build diluc with over 200% crit dmg and a party that boosts diluc's EM he hits like a truck. Here's proof: ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html
I mean WGS is not overated since its passive is not bad and Blackcliff 4* is not as good as the 5* weapon which makes everyone ignores it and low budget, f2p i suggest u buy more wishes instead of buying the dust weapons
I think u missed the context of this video. Please watch the part where i state my conclusions, of course wgs is going to be better lol. For people who missed the wgs banner and is f2p, blackcliff is an alternative choice to boost up your diluc, compared to prototype which deals underwhelming dps. Starglitters only gives you 5 wishes every month, and it's practically a gamble, not to mention the wolf's gravestone banner is not coming soon again either. Then again, if people wanna wish for character to hit the pity go ahead, but I did state it clearly that i recommend buying blackcliff for f2p diluc mains who: 1. doesn't want to spend starglitters on wishes. 2. Wants to get more damage for diluc but doesn't have the opportunity to get WGS
imagine if u had a blackclff + refinement + or higher. this would totally out damage gravestone. Since not everybod is ready to spend thousands to get 2 or 3 gravestones. Rather max out the Blackckcliff. The weapon is amazing I can confirm it
@@fullstrivetv7612 damn this is crazy and is does outdamage Gravestone with active passive. Weapon is sooo good. Really hope to see a crit 5 star claymore inthe future
wolf's gravestone is his best weapon than blackliff, blackliff may deal a lot at start but when the gravestone passive pops off it literally kills the blackliff at any state.
I don't have wolfs, but it seems to me like if you just sit on Diluc and don't do anything they're all not far off, but if you're swapping or using off field damage, wolf's is far better with the team wide buff when the opponent is at low hp yea? Like say if you're swapping into Diluc for burst damage rather than as just a hard carry.
recommend the spear to xiao. the F2P weapons for the xiao are much worse than those of the diluc, which has the blacksmith's sword as an option while you have not yet bought one from the paimon store.
I personally think prototype s passive isnt that usefull for diluke since his a pyro damage unit that mostly have pyro damge bonus , archeic vs blackcliff for razer/eula may be a better comparisn in my opinion since diluke also have ascending stat crit rate and is definitely best F2P weapon for diluke , pls can u compare that too
I used to like Diluc but he never came home. So now I don't want him. Like I'd be mad if he shows up when I already built Hu Tao, Childe, Mona, and Ningguang. Like okay just stay there in the permanent banner and don't show up.
I still don't have WGS but I main Diluc. I've been using R1 Serpentine spine but I think My R5 Blackliff would certainly be better, ryt? Plus it suits Diluc a lot
Kalo udah pernah main game mmorpg bakal tau akan memilih ATK atau CRIT DMG wkwk ATK is flat calculation but CRIT DMG is not flat because CRIT DMG can give u much dmg from ATK and no good if u build with high ATK but CRIT DMG low. Menurut gue begitu serta pengalaman bermain game mmorpg yg sudah terbiasa dengan ATK, CRIT RATE, CRIT DMG cuma bedanya genshin impact ada EM dan elemen dmg bonus ibarat special attack.
@@fullstrivetv7612 crit rate ga ngaruh ke dmg, itu cuma buat balance output dmg doang. Lagian juga sebenernya ATK & CRIT DMG ibarat 2:3 atau seburuk-buruknya 1:3 dari 100% kalo bisa 3:3 malah lebih bagus tapi di genshin artefak gacha jadi ya 1:3 paling parah wkwk Dragon nest cuma tau aja sih dulu saat jaman warnet wkwk
@@FaisalMahendra ngaruh buat total DPS damage bro, mau atk nya 3000 kek crit dmg 200% kek, kalo crit rate cuma 20% mah sama aja boong, udah susah" buat atk sama crit dmg setinggi itu tapi peluanh buat ngecrit cuman 1 dari 5 pukulan mah kasian bgt diluc nya. Dan Kalo gak ngecrit mah crit damage yg lo bikin ampe 200% itu mah kaga keluar bro. Nih, critical hit itu basisnya dari total ATK, crit damage, pyro dmg bonus, elemental mastery. TAPI, kalo pukulan lo GAK ngecrit, basisnya dari ATK, pyro dmg bonus, elemental mastery, (crit damage gak diitung, kenapa? Ya judulnya aja crit damage, ya damage dari critical 😂, kalo gak ngecrit ya damage dari critical ga nongol).
@@fullstrivetv7612 Kalo menurut gue gini sih. Inti konsepnya sama yaitu mirip mmorpg, tinggal bedakan di EM aja nanti karena kan melt dan vaporize ngasih DMG lebih. _Ini pengetahuan efek dasar aja ya, ga ada hubungannya sama yg di pake siapa nantinya dan karakter dibawah cuma sebagai contoh._ Gue ambil contoh karakter yg bisa EM dmg bonus seperti melt dan vaporize yaitu diluc (pyro) deh yg B5 pasaran lalu karakter yg ga bisa main EM yaitu ningguang (geo) pasaran juga B4. Artefak paling cocok atau paling ideal/seimbang buat segala macam keadaan pertempuran dari karakter diluc yaitu ATK%, EM, CR, CD sedangkan ninggung ATK, ATK%, CR, CD. _Asumsikan artefak tersebut emang punya._ Lalu bandingkan diluc pake ATK, ATK%, EM, CD dengan sebelumnya yaitu ATK%, EM, CR, CD. Kalo dari segi aspek keseimbangan DMG yg dihasilkan gue milih pilihan kedua sedangkan full dmg gue milih pilihan pertama. Asumsikan diluc ascend tidak menambahkan CR begitupun ningguang bukan GeoDMGBonus maka CR mereka berdua otomatis 0% dan tinggal makan food 20% CR udah cukup menurut gue loh ya. Jadi maksud gue disini adalah selain HP/DEF yg ga ada gunanya sama sekali selain pajangan doang di stat lalu CR dan ER sebenernya juga ga nambahin DMG cuma... CR ini gunanya buat keseimbangan DMG output doang dan ER keseimbangan DMG burst yg dihasilkan kecuali seperti ganyu yg ga butuh burst banget maka ER bukan prioritas tapi... Kalo bahas talenta ganyu maka beda urusan, ER dibutuhkan. Sama halnya HP/DEF buat Hu Tao/Albedo yg bisa convert alias HP/DEF ga jadi pajangan di stat doang. Kalo gue terusin makin panjang wkwk Intinya dari semua ini kalo pengen pure DMG cuma di pegang oleh 1. ATK, ATK%, EM, CD (Showcaser Melt/Vaporize). 2. ATK/ATK%, EM, CR, CD (User Melt/Vaporize/Swirl/Overload/Superconduct/Electro-charged with Balance Stat). 3. ATK, ATK%, CR, CD (User Crystallize and maybe too User Swirl/Overload/Superconduct/Electro-charged). Begitu... Kalo dibahas sama karakter ntar bisa beda lagi tuh ada ketambahan HP/DEF maupun ER tapi karena pure DMG ya seperti itu. Kalo di game mmorpg yg gue mainkan sih kalo diibaratkan di genshin impact itu settingan gue gini CR, CD, EM, ER jadi ATK/ATK% gue buang karena di dungeon apapun pake itu 90% masih bisa survive.
@@FaisalMahendra iya gua paham soal EM multiplier (bedanya melt vaporize yg bisa x2 dmg + value dari persenan dari angka EM, sama sisanya kek electro charge superconduct overload yg punya multiplier tersendiri, dan juga gua paham soal def hp yg berguna hanya di bbrp karakter juga sperti yg lo bilang. Nah, soal crit rate, ya emang bener, mau 20% crit rate doang tapi digeberin di atk atk% em cd demi showcase ya sah sah aja. Masalahnya, yg sperti lo bilang juga, kagak balance klo buat aktivitas selain one hit showcase, buat dungeon masih diselamatin pake food buff, tapi gimana kalo spiral abyss 😂. Nah intinya, menurut gua build buat showcase boleh, tapi prioritas utama orang" mending yg balance dulu karena bukan cuma bisa buat pamer damage tapi berguna buat dungeon & spiral abyss. Terus biasanya ada perdebatan jem pasir EM / atk% untuk diluc, apakah penting bgt? Menurut gua penting, tapi dengan adanya catatan tergantung situasi kondisi juga. Kalau misal seseorang punya diluc dan xingqiu, maka bisa benefit bgt dari EM jam pasir untuk keperluan dungeon dan spiral abyss, tapi kalo misalnya gk punya xingqiu, ya benefitnya cuma untuk melt showcase doang. Jadi kalo misalnya orang pengen build diluc EM untuk keperluan showcase DAN dungeon / spiral abyss, xingqiu diperlukan. Nah, kebetulan di video ini gua pakai jam pasir atk% karena basis damage tanpa melt lebih besar dibanding jem pasir EM, dan gua yakin gak semua orang punya xingqiu / belom semua org paham pentingnya xingqiu. Di video ini kan diluc gua build yg balanced, kemarin gua dpt jem pasir EM yg lumayan bagus, dan berencana untuk bikin video crowned diluc dengan build EM ( 2.5k ATK, 50% crit rate, 200% crit dmg, 200+ EM, ini tanpa buff apapun ya), nanti gua akan showcase melt damage one hit dan vaporize comp dgn xingqiu utk dungeon & spiral abyss
@Full Strive TV Bro , will you get serpent spine ? That's also a great weapon for Diluc ngl Bang , lu bakal dapet serpent spine nggak ? Itu senjata juga bagus banget buat Diluc
Nope, ive already invested in blackcliff and Wolf's gravestone, so I wouldn't spend any more resources xD. Moreover, I don't really fancy serpent spine because of how it looks and it needs shield support to fully stack its passive.
Mantep bang videonya. Informatif banget. Saya juga pakai Diluc. Oh iya mau tanya kan setelah Dawn/Burst itu attack Diluc berubah jadi Pyro ya. Nah itu masuk ke Normal attack atau Dawn/burst ya? Soalnya saya bingung mau level up talent normal attack atau Dawn.
@@fullstrivetv7612 Pertama2 terimakasih sudah respon cepat bang. Oke siap berarti saya level up talent normal attack. Terimakasih banyak bang. Semoga channel makin banyak subscriber nya termasuk saya
And blackcliff is R1 while Prototype Archaic is R4, i was looking for a r5 blackcliff vs R1 Wolfstone, i see it could have similar dmg as wolfstone, if this is the power of the R1 Blackcliff.
@@fullstrivetv7612 Wow, so even if i never get Wolfstone on gacha, if i eventually reach to r5 blackcliff i could have similar or even better dmg than a 5 stars, nice.
And all of these test are done with R1 Blackcliff Slasher right? So that means R5 Blackcliff Slasher can do better. There is a bright hope for non-WGS F2P Diluc Mains! Just keep buying those Blackcliff Slashers everytime.
@@fullstrivetv7612 Worth it. I'm starting to doubt my R3 Blackcliff Slasher but when I saw your video it gave me hope. Now I'm just waiting for the next rotation, my starglitters are ready to pump it to R5.
That's why we need to have a 5 star crit damage claymore and diluc will be king again
Agreed 👍
And hey they might make it 86% crit damage. With 608 base attack that should be fun 😁.
@@nieldurano5610 it's 608 attack 66% crit damage with 40% elemental damage bonus passive :p
i think the crit dmg or crit rate 5* claymore will soon be release in 1.5 or 1.6 along with that 5* claymore user that ice girl whatever her name is .... we don get any crit 5* claymore bc none other than diluc are wielding a claymore when it comes to 5* characters
@@yakisan3766 gotta save my primo for a good claymore 😤
Update: This is the newest video where i showcase my triple crowned c0 Diluc with 2.6k atk, 51 c rate, 200%+ c dmg, and 121 EM. Also comparing EM vs ATK Sands.
ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html
For all of you saying that I need to test with EM sands instead of ATK sands, y'all need to calm down and chill 😊. The reason I'm using this build is to test diluc's damage if it doesn't rely on vaporize and, not everyone has xingqiu / knows the importance of xingqiu that he's the only character that can utilize diluc's EM for dps usage (if you're talking for one hit combo then it's on another topic). THE GOOD NEWS IS, I've been planning to make a crowned c0 diluc video with another build where I'll be testing EM vs ATK sands.
I feel stupid using the wolf's gravestone
@@palindromo3365 the blackcliff slasher is better only if you want to do a big PP damage (needs to be full stack). As for overall damage and consistent damage, it’s going to be WGS. So you aren’t dumb using WGS, because the WGS does better DPS.
@@thesansatria yes, as I said in the video blackcliff is the budget wolf's gravestone, a budget couldn't beat the real thing right?😉
There's keaya for melt dmg and we all have keaya u just didnt build him
@@yami4797 I used to use kaeya for melt comp, but ever since i got xingqiu hes much better for vaporize. The problem with melt is it has long internal cooldown which suits better for one hit combos, not for doing big dps rotations.
I learned a lot from this, and I don’t even have/use Diluc! You really put in the time, dedication, and scientific process into this and I greatly appreciate it. Great presentation overall, even if it was a ton of information for a 7 minute video. But it’s amazing the possibilities you can get in the game by just messing around with different weapons and artifact builds! Your video gave me lots of ideas :)
Wow thank you so much for your kind comment, really appreciate it! This made me all fired up to make more genshin impact content 🔥🔥🔥
@@fullstrivetv7612 I’m glad I made you feel that way! The info in the video was really helpful; it deserves to get some credit. 🤗
Let's just wait until Mihoyo release the Jade Claymore
Then that's be Crit rate claymore not crut dmg
@@ayameren6579 all that means is you’d run a cdmg circlet instead of a crit rate circlet. Cdmg circlet gives more cdmg than weapons anyways, except for Homa.
@@Brrrrrrq-q9m And thundering pulse
And mistsplitter
Besides, if you main two claymore wielding characters and you don't have enough prototypes, having the blackcliff slayer on one of them leaves the other with the prototype archaic
Yup it's better to maximize refinement on one prototype archaic than 2 with low refinements!
I used this when i had Diluc and Razor on my team
Ah feels good to see a diluc user considering how the current characters outdamage him
Petition for mihoyo to release a 5 star crit dmg claymore for diluc 🙏
@@fullstrivetv7612 yess he'll be back to the best with that
Fuck no hu tao deserves her spot
@@mrsir6990 even she will eventually lose that spot...
@@giga-9461 Nah staff of Homa is the best weapon made for her, it’s op af even hu tao passes a c6 diluc
When mihoyo releases a 5* weapon for diluc then prepare for the almighty phoenix!!
Get ready for Diluc's big PP bird 🕊️
@@fullstrivetv7612 I love how you say "big PP bird" lol🤣
Yeah, how come every 5 star has a official weapon except Diluc, Keqing, Qiqi and Mona. Let's hope Mihoyo doesn't become lazy and create their own weapons.
@@itsdomd0misticn00b7 thats for future content. just wait when mihoyo buffs these outdated chars/old.
@@itsdomd0misticn00b7 Exactly, mona and qiqi are two underrated gods.
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
Diluc: *You should bring the knights of favonius with you next time*
Update: Newest triple crowned Diluc with 200%+ c dmg video ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html
Even thos hes an ex favonius
Law
Me after i spent all my resources and mora on him : nicely shut up my lord 😘
Also diluc in the story: *wields favonius claymore*
i hope everyone who mains a claymore character get lucky and get me
I got u last month and diluc last week... My razor was almost 90... But diluc had to appear in the standart banner...
@@yurifurtado1955 exactly what happened to me lmao, atleast you got two claymore dps
@@wolfsgravestone3968 I dont know If it is a blessing or a curse cause I was literatly at 0 mora and 0 exp books... Raising him is taking só long... And he uses the same talent books as razor... Lolll
Thx bro
just got you today at ar 55 :3
If only looking at solo damage, Max Stacks Blackcliff can quite easily challenge WGS; hell, even Serpent Spine can. WGS' biggest asset is the fact it buffs your entire party, not just Diluc himself; if WGS only boosts Diluc's Atk, it wouldn't nearly be as revered.
Oh, and yes, Blackcliff is indeed a "budget Gravestone" if shelling out 24 starglitters is within your budget.
Thank you for summarizing what I said in the end of the video. People tend to misunderstood the intent of this video 😂
Well I still think R5 Blackliff will outdo R1 WGS if we don't take the whole party buff passive into consideration...
It's really interesting to see people still making content about Diluc, even though there is a lot of characters that outdamage him in the current meta. I have Hu tao and Xiao but i prefer using Diluc over them, probably because I got him quite early in the game and got used to him. Videonya bagus bang, keep up the good work 👍
Gua punya ganyu tapi hampir gapernah pake kecuali spiral abyss doang 😂🙏
Well, I guess because he is very fun to play, I guess. I am also diluc main because I feel like playing DMC when I play him. Not just spamming plunging attack.
@@idostuffs7043 or charge attack like hutao lmao
What do you think about the comparison? Let me know in the comments down below!
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*Translation*
Gimana perbandingannya mnurut kalian? Kasi tau dong pendapat lo 😁
Keren bang
I think that one day, when Diluc limited banner comes, people will going crazy about it. (It’s possible since keging limited banner came last update). But seeing how diluc performs, being outshined by newer DPS, people would think twice about wishing on the banner. So Mihoyo will buff Diluc to keep the hype alive, so people will wish on Diluc banner, as much as they spend on the most successful banner like Xiao, Ganyu and Zhong li. Videonya keren! Artifactnya gokil.
Yup, kalaupun dibuff gua rasa bakal ditambahin di angka persenan talentnya
@@fullstrivetv7612 talent pertamanya useless. Anjrit. Emosi gue liatnya. Ngurangin stamina charge atk dan manjangin durasi nya. Buat apaan anjir.
@@diabetespotato5388 loh Curhat wkwkkwkwkw
The Buff I want for him is in his Talent, Replace that charged attack Talent with something like increase Pyro Damage by 10% when Diluc uses Elemental Skill. Dawn will no longer have DOT and Destination Damage, All multipliers will just be added to the 1st Slash.
@@kunizumimiyamoto6160 interesting
The thing is you don't need that much atk slap some em sands there and see a good amount of difference in Wgs damage output.
Agreed, although em sands are really rare
The thing with EM sands is to fully utilize it you need Xingqiu, unless you wanna one hit for showcase then ok. But I'm using this balanced build because i assume not everyone have xingqiu to support diluc's EM. On the other hand, don't worry because I had a decent EM sands recently and planning to use it for my upcoming lv 90 c0 Crowned Diluc showcase (2.5k ATK, 50% crit 205% crit dmg 250+ EM), so just stay tuned.
This was a well presented video my dude, well done
Thank you! Really appreciate it 🙏
I thought blackcliff was very similar to the prototype but when it's buffed it gets way better
This might sound crazy but I have been using rainslasher on diluc with xingqiu (xingqiu is essential for this) and the elemental reaction damage is insane
It is
@@fullstrivetv7612 haha try it out that way you don't need EM sands and you can go ATK/Pyro/Crit Dmg but I stress that this will only work with xingqiu and maybe barbara during xingqius ability cooldowns (barbara E to apply wet status on enemies). It is alot of fun
@@yassassintm4234 nah i got WGS and blackcliff and im good with them, the problem with rainslasher like you said it's too dependent on supports to make elemental reactions and it makes diluc's raw pyro dmg become really underwhelming.
@@fullstrivetv7612 yes you are right it is just a fun build to try out while content is abit dead I wouldn't recommend it for sweaty players but if players want to have some fun and there are spare resources then why not
@@yassassintm4234 well yeah at the end of the day it's just a matter of preferences
The most aesthetically pleasing video i ve seen in a while... ❤️
Thank you! 😁
Nice content bro,put 2 subtitles is hard tho for indonesian people like me, detail information,resolution and graphic is not that bad..keep it up dude,i always support your channel
Thanks!! I'll improve my video quality though
If you have wolf's gravestone on diluc, you should try an elemental mastery time piece cause you get so much attack from the weapon's passive.
Heres the thing, not everyone has xingqiu, since the only character that can legit constantly vaporize with diluc is Xingqiu. I also have EM sands, but the build im showing here is the one anyone can use.
@George Joseph thanks for the comment. 1. I don't misdirect people, because I didn't say blackcliff is better than wgs, what I did say is it has potential that could rival wgs' dmg if it's at full stack compared to prototype even at r4 does mediocre output, and yes I did say that I'm not counting wgs' passive in this video (please watch carefully i mentioned this in the video). 2. I'm already planning to make a crowned c0 diluc video with EM sands vs Atk sands, so just chill and stay tuned my guy👍
@George Joseph aight we cool then! I get what you meant by people misunderstanding blackcliff could rival wgs' damage EVENTHOUGH I did mention the disclaimers beforehand. The intent of this video is not to show that Blackcliff is better than wolf's gravestone (unless it's r5 but that's on another topic), but on the other hand to show that it outdamages prototype archaic where people used to say archaic is better than blackcliff / blackcliff is just a waste of resources no matter the situation. I added Wolf's gravestone to the comparison because it's the benchmark of highest damage diluc can give among all the claymores (for now), and seeing that blackcliff could do almost the same numbers as Wolf's at full stack while prototype doesn't do anywhere as much (even at r4 refined), I conclude that it is the BUDGET Wolf's gravestone like I said in the video, if it's a budget it couldn't be better than the real thing right? But it's a budget, you get what I mean right xD. But then again I really appreciate your constructive criticism. I assume people got misled because they didn't watch it to the end of the video and immediately jump to conclusions, or maybe the disclaimers part is too short and I could work on this part better.
@George Joseph then do your own comparison🤔🤔🤔simple solution for simple problem...dont demand dude...your just nobody like the rest of human race🤔🤔🤔if you want better comparison do it your self dont push it to others🤔🤔🤔
That was probably the best detailed well made video on diluc ever. Well done
Thank you!
i might be late, but imo just after your total attack reached 2k, start invest all on crit dmg. having too much attack with crt dmg below 200% will waste good dps apparently. good video comparison!
Yes you are late, because i uploaded a new video where i showcase my triple crowned diluc with 2.6k atk 51% crit rate and 207% c dmg xD
I m pretty sure this man showing of an example of diminishing returns that happens when u stack too much stat
Diminishing return could occur on every stats. It could be on elemental mastery, crit rate, crit dmg, atk. So yeah, getting an ideally balanced stats is really hard, but worth the try. Anyways, update: my diluc has 2654 atk, 51% crit rate 207% crit dmg and 121 EM ( still using WGS and 4 crimson witch currently)
That was the long version of it but yeah it's exactly what I m talking about
Just slap a wgs on diluc if you have it its really the best general option instantly curing your atk needs and it buffs team so its more valuable raw dmg isn't everything but blackcliff is still great
wow asli makasih banyak bang, ini video ada mana pas lagi butuhin
makasih banyak buat semua penjelasannya dan udah buat video ini gua yang tadinya bingung jadi ngerti
ini sangat membantu gua sebagai diluc main yang gak hoki wkwkwk
tadinya bimbang mau pake senjata apa tapi setelah nonton ini jadi membulatkan tekad untuk beli blackliffnya
sukses terus ya bang, gua auto subs ini mah
Thanks bgt bro 👍, boleh bantu like comment share video diluc terbaru gua jug, thanks 🙏🙏ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html
The advantage of having WGS is you can have Elemental Mastery sands for melt or vaporize comp. Stacking attack is not recommended with WGS since its passive both boosts attack already.
Please read my recent pinned comment, thanks! ❤️
Either way he’ll hit hard asf
That’s all the matters
awesome vid and edit you did a great job
also what is the name of the song that you used ??? i really love it
Makasih bang, jadi yakin buat ambil blackcliff slasher. Rencana awal mau ambil blackcliff pole buat zhongli tapi baru ingat dmg diluc+prototype msh kentang xD
Videonya bagus banget ngab. Semangat terus bikin kontennya!
Thankss broo!!!👍stay tuned untuk video selanjutnya ☺️
Not every one can achieve those stats so that's why WGS 🔥
And it's only getting better 😁🔥
Bro it is easier to get stats given by wgs (attack 😂) , but way more difficult to get crit rate and dmg
@@omghag6201 that's obvious 😂
One shines early the latter on the last stretch. Both have their uses. The WGS isn't overrated as it brings quite a lot to the table, definitely shines in harder content squeezing in that 20% party buff. The test wasn't conclusive enough as it didn't even include the WGS' effect into consideration. If anything, this video did show the viability of the blackcliff claymore.
What I mean by overrated is because some people jumped to conclusions on giving weapons to diluc by locking wolf's gravestone as the best weapon. Indeed it is the best weapon so far, but then people who don't get wgs instantly gave up on building diluc, it's like "if my diluc doesn't get wgs then my diluc ain't chad", whereas There's blackcliff slasher which is a very good option especially for f2ps. Therefore I said people tend to sleep on Blackcliff and it's underrated. Also, regarding the wgs passive not being put into test, if you watch closely on the disclaimers part (2:45), I clearly stated that i didn't put wgs passive on the test because it's just on a whole another level, assuming people knew wgs' passive overwhelms the test, so I thought i didn't need to bother putting it in. On the other note, I want to clear things that I never mentioned any statement saying Blackcliff is better than WGS (unless it's r5 blackcliff that's on another topic).
Just a suggestion, maybe use a simple typeface when you make the texts explaining things since this was too hard for me to read, or I have to decipher each word slowly to know what it is lol. Maybe use taller or regular fonts or increase the kerning for the text a little bit.
Thanks for the video.
My bad lol, i was in a hurry in making this video and try to compress it into a 7 minute video. Thanks for the feedback anyways!
@@fullstrivetv7612 It's okay, maybe it's just me anyway. I have bad eyes haha.
@@ebc6970 same here lmao im farsighted
Diluc Single Handedly On The Enemies.
Amazing video, bro. Ty.
Blackliff slasher is pretty good but hard to domain. Because you need to kill enemies to unleash its true atk. Meanwhile WGS already give you a LOT of atk. However, its passive about 40% extra atk after hit an enemy with health remain less than 30% its kind of tricky. So Wolf's Gravestone wins in my opinion for giving you a HUGE atk constantly.
Yup, I also said wgs is better. I never said blackcliff is better, what I did say is f2ps can use blackcliff if they dont have wgs
was not ready for the bass
I got Wolf's Gravestone on my Ar 9 account and it also doesn't have any claymore characters, I wish we are able to give/trade weapons ;-;
Sadly never been able to get my hands on WGS, so I went crazy and enhanced Blackcliff Slasher to R5. My Diluc is for second team and decent enough weapon. Also I think it's one of the best looking weapons on him.
Dude r5 blackcliff with its passive activated outdamages WGS
ooh that must cost alot of starglitter should've just get R1 blackcliff who knows you might get wgs in the future, because once wgs procs that 40% atk buff for the whole team it's already as strong as blackcliff R5 if not better in some cases like fighting those Lectors and heralds and where there's only 1 - 3 enemies or like 4 Fatui that is so tough to kill so getting the fullstacks is gonna be so difficult for Blackcliff, if u have like Xingqui or mona and builds him around element mastery wgs is gonna be better no questions i'm hitting around 50k - 60k Vaporize/Melt per E using wgs with EM stats artifacts and C1 diluc the weapon is literally busted in general it's just a very good weapon the only weapon that can outdmg wgs is prolly the Unforged with it's passive being proc
@@kaltsit4539 I can confirm this. my c0 diluc's E skill with atk sands can deal 50-70k vaporize and 70-80k melt. But imagine if this dude got his wgs, and has another claymore dps, then wgs for diluc and the r5 blackcliff for razor / chongyun / etc. Would be worth it too dont u think?
Semangat bang bangun channelnya
Makasih bro 👍
First of all ur artifact is disgustingly GOD TIER i mean u have 64% cr with 172% cd without any bonus from weapon and secondly i used to main blackcliff bcuz like u said its underated and almost all vid on diluc doesnt mention blackliff and with blackcliff u can hit 200% cd easily. But recently i got wolf gravestone and I think wolf is still better compare to blackcliff bcuz wolf gives u alot of atk% so u can use EM sands to deal more dmg and still hv 2.5k atk. With wolf u can hv lots of atk and more em to deal insane dmg and pair it with xingqiu, its so good. Also my stats r 65% cr and 133% cd with 2.5k atk and 280 EM. With blackcliff i had to modified my artifact and my stats will be 61% cr and 225% cd 1.9k atk and 90 EM... With blackcliff i deal 140k and wolf 158k
lmao I appreciate the comment bro, i've been farming crimson witch since ar 45 (now 55), so yeahh... took months. Anyways, of course I didn't say that blackcliff is better than WGS tho. What I did say is that blackcliff can match wolf's gravestone damage, and no other weapon can match it up (except serpent spine at full stack with support shields it could match wgs probably).
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By the way, stay tuned for my upcoming crowned diluc video, 186K on cryo regisvine, diluc's stats: 2.4k ATK, 50% c rate, 205% c dmg, and 289 EM.
@@fullstrivetv7612 thats is so true bcuz a lot of players says archaic is better bcuz blackcliff u need to kill something first to hv the passive but they dont know the value of 55% cd
@@solsakura8206 well said my guy
u have my subscribe ;-; helpful video
thank youu!!!❤️
Very detailed guide 👍
Nice edit, like
Ah yes! I use a Blackcliff Diluc...his atk is 1778, cr is 76% & cd is 182%
He destroys evrything alrdy
That's already a decent stats 👍
I have the blackcliff one and i hit 100k with lvl 80 diluc i will get 150k soon i love that weapon
I have both Blackcliff and Gravestone R1. For E,Q they will do similar dmg if your artifact are good. But your basic attacks will be comparitively very low in blackcliff making its dps lesser. Thus I will put gravestone way above it, in terms of dps.
Yes, I have both wgs and blackcliff and can confirm your statement. I mean the weapon is dope considering blackcliff is only a 4 star weapon. If there's a 5 star crit dmg claymore with insane passive, surely it would outdamage wolf's gravestone gravestone
@@fullstrivetv7612 That's the claymore I am waiting for. But for now Gravestone is best. For diluc , EM sands is better with gravestone.
@@sidhantbarthwal638 em sands will only outdamage atk sand if you play constant vaporize reaction with xingqiu (for dps only xingqiu can do it well). Other than that, it's better to stick with atk sands.
you should try testing the Unforged against Wolf's Gravestone although it's basically the same but different passives, i still need either Wolf's Gravestone or Unforged for my Diluc ;-;
I dont think he has an Unforged, but from seeing some Diluc Whales I think wolfs passive is better at low refinement, is high refinements what can make The Unforged really good.
Gravestone is better agains little ennemies but unforced is better for boss. Because of the passive of gravestone. You will do more constancy damage with unforged.
Yu also need a shield character for unforge to work
wih keren kontennya bwank
Hazikk makasih bwank
Bold of you to assume I would want Wolf's Gravestone because of the damage
The real reason I want it is the desing
If I ever get it, I will use on Razor just because it has "Wolf" in the name
Sure go ahead 😁
It also had "gravestone" in it's name
Me, with lv90 r5 skyrider: i see
Really good video! Also gives me a good impression for Diluc's overal damage buffed and unbuffed
One question; what are your talent lvls and constellation?
Thanks! I really appreciate it 🙏, oh yeah I forgott to mention the talents. It's level 7, 8 and 9 respectively (autos, E, and ult). Diluc is c0 because I'm not the ceo of google 😂
Great video , I just got Diluc after Venti , so i wanted to know the best free wep for it .. Ty!
Wow congrats!
I wonder if...I know this will be years ahead but will we finally get OP pyro artifafts when we're in Natlan
I don't think there will be, since crimson witch is really catered for pyro mains especially diluc. But maybe there will be vrit damge claymores
Rajin ngonten bang
Siapp👍
Honestly he's really fun to play (my husband lol) even tho I have yae rn or maybe other claymore user like razor and maybe in the future I'll pull ayaka/ayato I can make any of them for my main dps, there's so many meta burst one hit. but..but diluc.. still the winner of my heart lolol
💯 exactly, and if you build diluc with over 200% crit dmg and a party that boosts diluc's EM he hits like a truck. Here's proof: ruclips.net/video/Wz7lG375n78/видео.html
dont forget that atk% amp non-crit dmg too, while critdmg% only amp crit dmg
Yup
prototype archaic: they dont know im here
It's there in the video tho😂
@@fullstrivetv7612 oh sh|t it is? I probably skipped through it without noticeing lmao
@@TheRandoRacer 🤣🤣🤣
I mean WGS is not overated since its passive is not bad and Blackcliff 4* is not as good as the 5* weapon which makes everyone ignores it and low budget, f2p i suggest u buy more wishes instead of buying the dust weapons
I think u missed the context of this video. Please watch the part where i state my conclusions, of course wgs is going to be better lol. For people who missed the wgs banner and is f2p, blackcliff is an alternative choice to boost up your diluc, compared to prototype which deals underwhelming dps. Starglitters only gives you 5 wishes every month, and it's practically a gamble, not to mention the wolf's gravestone banner is not coming soon again either. Then again, if people wanna wish for character to hit the pity go ahead, but I did state it clearly that i recommend buying blackcliff for f2p diluc mains who: 1. doesn't want to spend starglitters on wishes. 2. Wants to get more damage for diluc but doesn't have the opportunity to get WGS
@@fullstrivetv7612 im sorry didnt notice that
I got that opinion when looking at your thumbnail XD
@@phansang6280 it's okay xD
it's easier to R5 the blackcliff and it's substat is crit rate so the better choice is quite clear.
Uhh nope the one with crit rate sub is serpent spine, blackcliff has crit damage as a substat
Diluc: guess we can rest a bit...
Persona 5 fans: *HMMMMMMMM*
This exited me so much
thanks for the video i recently did 215k dmg with prototype
Nice one! Just recently got sucrose and buff the EM to the max, 220k with prototype as well
@@fullstrivetv7612 ya prototype is insane
The reason why my diluc only has 140 crit dmg, no crit weapons🤣🤣 i aint gonna buy bp just for diluc
0:00 what is the song?
imagine if u had a blackclff + refinement + or higher. this would totally out damage gravestone. Since not everybod is ready to spend thousands to get 2 or 3 gravestones. Rather max out the Blackckcliff. The weapon is amazing I can confirm it
one of of my viewers commented he has r5 blackcliff
@@fullstrivetv7612 damn this is crazy and is does outdamage Gravestone with active passive. Weapon is sooo good. Really hope to see a crit 5 star claymore inthe future
wolf's gravestone is his best weapon than blackliff, blackliff may deal a lot at start but when the gravestone passive pops off it literally kills the blackliff at any state.
Yep I literally said blackcliff is a budget WGS. A budget could never beat the real thing right? ;)
I'm thinking about buying blackcliff for Diluc since prototype archaic is the only claymore i have and i want to give it to Beidou
wise choice bro!
I don't have wolfs, but it seems to me like if you just sit on Diluc and don't do anything they're all not far off, but if you're swapping or using off field damage, wolf's is far better with the team wide buff when the opponent is at low hp yea? Like say if you're swapping into Diluc for burst damage rather than as just a hard carry.
That's true, but that's not the context of this video. Thanks btw!
aish dapet senjata baru, konten baru langsung
Nah lu kan juga punya wkakak
I am sad, the only 5 stars i have are xiao and diluc. I dont know which one i should buy, the spear or the heavy sword.
recommend the spear to xiao. the F2P weapons for the xiao are much worse than those of the diluc, which has the blacksmith's sword as an option while you have not yet bought one from the paimon store.
@@MatthewDS.
Now that is good point, thx.
Try to use em hourglass on diluc...those lost attack will be covered by WGS..plus 170 to 180% cdmg is achievable from artifacts.
read my pinned comment bro, thanks :D
What it the song/music at 00:00?
Kkeeeyyyaaaaahh I DONT HAVE BLACKCLIFF SLASHER OR WOLFS GRAVESTONE
I personally think prototype s passive isnt that usefull for diluke since his a pyro damage unit that mostly have pyro damge bonus , archeic vs blackcliff for razer/eula may be a better comparisn in my opinion since diluke also have ascending stat crit rate and is definitely best F2P weapon for diluke , pls can u compare that too
I definitely will make eula video, IF i do get her 😂. Currently, I'm at 75 soft pity and 4k primogems, let's just hope I get her.
Blackcliff and WGS are good but if you are F2P and too hard for you to get those claymore Prototype is not bad
Yep if you don't have starglitters then prototype is the best f2p choice.
I used to like Diluc but he never came home. So now I don't want him. Like I'd be mad if he shows up when I already built Hu Tao, Childe, Mona, and Ningguang. Like okay just stay there in the permanent banner and don't show up.
Damm bro...i respect your patience 😭
Hmm but I can use mona as a buff right instead of a traveler for one shot answer me if you can
yeah it's viable, lot's of people use mona for showcases. I don't have mona so I use traveler as an alternative
Oh thanks
I still don't have WGS but I main Diluc. I've been using R1 Serpentine spine but I think My R5 Blackliff would certainly be better, ryt? Plus it suits Diluc a lot
Nvm the em sands thing, I just read the pinned comment. Have a nice day my guy
Very helpful
thank you for subtitle
If I Have Diluc That Would Be Great.
Keep playing! Diluc is always on the standard banner, he's going nowhere 🤣
0:01 vedi nel parchetto spaccio cocaina nacc o cul nacc a caldarell
I use the wolf's gravestone on Razor :
I mean, why not?
WGS passive goes very well with Razor C2 too
Both are good but you need to change ur artifacts a little bit with each wepon
Kalo udah pernah main game mmorpg bakal tau akan memilih ATK atau CRIT DMG wkwk
ATK is flat calculation but CRIT DMG is not flat because CRIT DMG can give u much dmg from ATK and no good if u build with high ATK but CRIT DMG low.
Menurut gue begitu serta pengalaman bermain game mmorpg yg sudah terbiasa dengan ATK, CRIT RATE, CRIT DMG cuma bedanya genshin impact ada EM dan elemen dmg bonus ibarat special attack.
Bener, jgn lupa crit rate juga wkwkwkw. Btw Dulu maen dragon nest gak bro
@@fullstrivetv7612 crit rate ga ngaruh ke dmg, itu cuma buat balance output dmg doang.
Lagian juga sebenernya ATK & CRIT DMG ibarat 2:3 atau seburuk-buruknya 1:3 dari 100% kalo bisa 3:3 malah lebih bagus tapi di genshin artefak gacha jadi ya 1:3 paling parah wkwk
Dragon nest cuma tau aja sih dulu saat jaman warnet wkwk
@@FaisalMahendra ngaruh buat total DPS damage bro, mau atk nya 3000 kek crit dmg 200% kek, kalo crit rate cuma 20% mah sama aja boong, udah susah" buat atk sama crit dmg setinggi itu tapi peluanh buat ngecrit cuman 1 dari 5 pukulan mah kasian bgt diluc nya. Dan Kalo gak ngecrit mah crit damage yg lo bikin ampe 200% itu mah kaga keluar bro. Nih, critical hit itu basisnya dari total ATK, crit damage, pyro dmg bonus, elemental mastery. TAPI, kalo pukulan lo GAK ngecrit, basisnya dari ATK, pyro dmg bonus, elemental mastery, (crit damage gak diitung, kenapa? Ya judulnya aja crit damage, ya damage dari critical 😂, kalo gak ngecrit ya damage dari critical ga nongol).
@@fullstrivetv7612 Kalo menurut gue gini sih. Inti konsepnya sama yaitu mirip mmorpg, tinggal bedakan di EM aja nanti karena kan melt dan vaporize ngasih DMG lebih.
_Ini pengetahuan efek dasar aja ya, ga ada hubungannya sama yg di pake siapa nantinya dan karakter dibawah cuma sebagai contoh._
Gue ambil contoh karakter yg bisa EM dmg bonus seperti melt dan vaporize yaitu diluc (pyro) deh yg B5 pasaran lalu karakter yg ga bisa main EM yaitu ningguang (geo) pasaran juga B4.
Artefak paling cocok atau paling ideal/seimbang buat segala macam keadaan pertempuran dari karakter diluc yaitu ATK%, EM, CR, CD sedangkan ninggung ATK, ATK%, CR, CD.
_Asumsikan artefak tersebut emang punya._
Lalu bandingkan diluc pake ATK, ATK%, EM, CD dengan sebelumnya yaitu ATK%, EM, CR, CD.
Kalo dari segi aspek keseimbangan DMG yg dihasilkan gue milih pilihan kedua sedangkan full dmg gue milih pilihan pertama.
Asumsikan diluc ascend tidak menambahkan CR begitupun ningguang bukan GeoDMGBonus maka CR mereka berdua otomatis 0% dan tinggal makan food 20% CR udah cukup menurut gue loh ya.
Jadi maksud gue disini adalah selain HP/DEF yg ga ada gunanya sama sekali selain pajangan doang di stat lalu CR dan ER sebenernya juga ga nambahin DMG cuma... CR ini gunanya buat keseimbangan DMG output doang dan ER keseimbangan DMG burst yg dihasilkan kecuali seperti ganyu yg ga butuh burst banget maka ER bukan prioritas tapi... Kalo bahas talenta ganyu maka beda urusan, ER dibutuhkan.
Sama halnya HP/DEF buat Hu Tao/Albedo yg bisa convert alias HP/DEF ga jadi pajangan di stat doang. Kalo gue terusin makin panjang wkwk
Intinya dari semua ini kalo pengen pure DMG cuma di pegang oleh
1. ATK, ATK%, EM, CD (Showcaser Melt/Vaporize).
2. ATK/ATK%, EM, CR, CD (User Melt/Vaporize/Swirl/Overload/Superconduct/Electro-charged with Balance Stat).
3. ATK, ATK%, CR, CD (User Crystallize and maybe too User Swirl/Overload/Superconduct/Electro-charged).
Begitu... Kalo dibahas sama karakter ntar bisa beda lagi tuh ada ketambahan HP/DEF maupun ER tapi karena pure DMG ya seperti itu.
Kalo di game mmorpg yg gue mainkan sih kalo diibaratkan di genshin impact itu settingan gue gini CR, CD, EM, ER jadi ATK/ATK% gue buang karena di dungeon apapun pake itu 90% masih bisa survive.
@@FaisalMahendra iya gua paham soal EM multiplier (bedanya melt vaporize yg bisa x2 dmg + value dari persenan dari angka EM, sama sisanya kek electro charge superconduct overload yg punya multiplier tersendiri, dan juga gua paham soal def hp yg berguna hanya di bbrp karakter juga sperti yg lo bilang. Nah, soal crit rate, ya emang bener, mau 20% crit rate doang tapi digeberin di atk atk% em cd demi showcase ya sah sah aja. Masalahnya, yg sperti lo bilang juga, kagak balance klo buat aktivitas selain one hit showcase, buat dungeon masih diselamatin pake food buff, tapi gimana kalo spiral abyss 😂. Nah intinya, menurut gua build buat showcase boleh, tapi prioritas utama orang" mending yg balance dulu karena bukan cuma bisa buat pamer damage tapi berguna buat dungeon & spiral abyss. Terus biasanya ada perdebatan jem pasir EM / atk% untuk diluc, apakah penting bgt? Menurut gua penting, tapi dengan adanya catatan tergantung situasi kondisi juga. Kalau misal seseorang punya diluc dan xingqiu, maka bisa benefit bgt dari EM jam pasir untuk keperluan dungeon dan spiral abyss, tapi kalo misalnya gk punya xingqiu, ya benefitnya cuma untuk melt showcase doang. Jadi kalo misalnya orang pengen build diluc EM untuk keperluan showcase DAN dungeon / spiral abyss, xingqiu diperlukan. Nah, kebetulan di video ini gua pakai jam pasir atk% karena basis damage tanpa melt lebih besar dibanding jem pasir EM, dan gua yakin gak semua orang punya xingqiu / belom semua org paham pentingnya xingqiu. Di video ini kan diluc gua build yg balanced, kemarin gua dpt jem pasir EM yg lumayan bagus, dan berencana untuk bikin video crowned diluc dengan build EM ( 2.5k ATK, 50% crit rate, 200% crit dmg, 200+ EM, ini tanpa buff apapun ya), nanti gua akan showcase melt damage one hit dan vaporize comp dgn xingqiu utk dungeon & spiral abyss
@Full Strive TV
Bro , will you get serpent spine ? That's also a great weapon for Diluc ngl
Bang , lu bakal dapet serpent spine nggak ? Itu senjata juga bagus banget buat Diluc
Nope, ive already invested in blackcliff and Wolf's gravestone, so I wouldn't spend any more resources xD. Moreover, I don't really fancy serpent spine because of how it looks and it needs shield support to fully stack its passive.
i got 149k burst using rainslasher r0 with bennet chongyun and sucrose with potion and once upon a time in monstadt
Cool, i got 182k burst using prototype archaic with adeptus and pyro potion
Mantep bang videonya. Informatif banget. Saya juga pakai Diluc. Oh iya mau tanya kan setelah Dawn/Burst itu attack Diluc berubah jadi Pyro ya. Nah itu masuk ke Normal attack atau Dawn/burst ya? Soalnya saya bingung mau level up talent normal attack atau Dawn.
Thanks!!! serangan yg pedang api abis burst masuknya ke normal atk broo
@@fullstrivetv7612 Pertama2 terimakasih sudah respon cepat bang. Oke siap berarti saya level up talent normal attack. Terimakasih banyak bang. Semoga channel makin banyak subscriber nya termasuk saya
And blackcliff is R1 while Prototype Archaic is R4, i was looking for a r5 blackcliff vs R1 Wolfstone, i see it could have similar dmg as wolfstone, if this is the power of the R1 Blackcliff.
There's one video i found on youtube that showcases r5 blackcliff va r1 wgs. The result shows that r5 blackcliff is moderately better than r1 wgs
@@fullstrivetv7612 Wow, so even if i never get Wolfstone on gacha, if i eventually reach to r5 blackcliff i could have similar or even better dmg than a 5 stars, nice.
@@alevanf yup, but it's really a long investment tho
@@fullstrivetv7612 Ye, but if you have bad luck on gachas it's as agent Smith said "Inevitable"
imagine r5 blackcliff smasher- YES
The music.... Chill
If I can't get ningguang at the shop then i'll get this claymore
Wise thought 👍
What if you use Blackcliff Slasher and also use a Em Sands? How will that work?
it could work, but the consequence is you might lack ATK, and you have to use vaporize comps everytime
I don't even have Diluc but interesting 🤔
How could theres someone dont have this non limited character these days?
Besides me.....
@@ferdiazis411 i got keqing on Xiao banner
*sad music* my friend who started playing 1month ago has Diluc and surely is flexing 😑
Do I still use the Blackliff slasher if I have a maxed out R5 Prototype Archaic?
Cuman bisa melihat 4 bulan main genshin diluc gk punya .. mona c2🥲🗡
what are your diluc's talent levels in this video?
8 autos 8 E and 9 Q
And all of these test are done with R1 Blackcliff Slasher right? So that means R5 Blackcliff Slasher can do better. There is a bright hope for non-WGS F2P Diluc Mains! Just keep buying those Blackcliff Slashers everytime.
Yuppp lmao it's like a long term investment
@@fullstrivetv7612 Worth it. I'm starting to doubt my R3 Blackcliff Slasher but when I saw your video it gave me hope. Now I'm just waiting for the next rotation, my starglitters are ready to pump it to R5.
@@Pandemamon damnn bro, how many additional atk% u get at full stack at r3?