As a full timer I have LPG refillable , great system saves a lot of money. But big problem soon it’s getting harder to find places to fill up. In winter I use 20lites a week. To change to calor gas would cost me over twice the money. You suggest getting Gas checked every year, have you found a place to do this. Everyone I phone says no there to busy to fit job in. I’ve tried to no avail for 3 years.
Fuel depots I have found can provide and also leisure van retailers are becoming more common. Regarding the gas checked, this can form part of a habitation check. Caravan and motorhome dealers should be able to do this
I fitted a gaslow 2.7th refillable log tank and it’s works great. Costs a few pound to fill up which is key for me as the van has a propex gas heater so goes thought a fair bit
They are talking of doing away with LPG at filling stations within the next 2 years!! This is getting stupid I don't get it the demand is there within the leasure industry is this a ploy to get everyone to go full electric?
Yes pump numbers are reducing and being replaced by EV chargers. There has been an increase in new LPG pumps at leisure vehicle dealers, so hopefully more will install pumps so LPG is easily accessible
Buy a Coleman petrol stove, fuel readily available in every country. Carried in lightweight plastic container. Mega hot heat output. Cook outdoors you are 'camping' after all. I've used one for 30 years, couldn't be doing with cooking on a ring with the output of a big candle. Don't like cooking smells in my upholstery and clothes either.
The thing I wonder is that how a mixture of gas evaporates equally during all the lifetime of a gas bottle. LPG is a mixture of butane and propane. When you start using it, since propane has a greater "desire" to evaporate, I assume it will evaporate quicker than butane cooling the liquid content and further making the evaporation of butane difficult. I notice that when I start using a fresh camp canister, the flame is pale blue (mostly propane is burning) while towards the end of the canister, the flame color becomes turquoise like (butane is burning now). I kindly suggest to use propane (like many US people use), if possible.
I'm considering an underslung tank on my T25, but the big problem is that it would be a bit too low. I know that there's a lot of Westfalias out there with them fitted historically, but my tape measure tells me that I can't manage the 200mm clearance which seems to be required.
Wouldn’t bother, less and less retailers doing pump LPG. Watched so many similar videos to this and have found Flogas as the best option. Spoke to Flogas depot in Wrexham and they said Flogas are not as difficult to find and the network is only going to increase due to Calor basically helping them to corner the small Campervan gas bottle market
MFG are, however there are plenty of other suppliers and depots. And this is why some in the leisure industry have started having their own tanks installed. There is so much change going to happen this decade with petrol/diesel/gas/electric who knows what the future holds.
I have the underslung LPG tank on my transporter. The BBQ point is great and I use it for my cadac and a Kamper geyser for hot water. The only thing you didn’t cover is filling up. In recent years less and less filling stations are selling LPG, leading me to be concerned that the supply will dry up.
That is true. Some fuel stations are replacing LPG with EV charging facilities. However I understand due to this, camper/camping and motor dealers have started to instal their own filling facilities.
Great timing for me this Video, I have a 907 Gas Bottle, although safe for now it does struggle at lower temperatures (Even with a insulation jacket on). As I’m off to the Caravan & Motorhome show in a few weeks, I can weigh up all the options you’ve suggested. What are you siding towards, Underslung?
They are being replaced by EV charging in some cases, however there are gas depots that can be filled from along with retailers now installing their own tanks
@@johnwebster2263 They are certainly becoming more popular, however most only use them for “on grid” camping. Although there has been a big increase over the last year of people buying portable power stations, to have 240v off grid.
Is gas as important these days, with the cost of solar generators coming down (or at least the capacity / £ ratio) maybe an induction hob is the answer?
Converting to an underslung LPG tank is actually quite poor advice. More and more stations are doing away with LPG because it doesn’t bring in revenue like it used to, plus garages are installing EV charge points where the LPG onsite tanks used to sit. Really think about it before you commit.
Leisure dealers are having tanks installed to help with this. And fuel depots also provide access for fill ups. Cost is much cheaper and lasts along time.
Waste of time putting underslung gas tanks on nowadays. Less and less places to refill. Autotrail have removed theirs and made space for a 3.9kg which now is going to cause another issue with availability. Not heard about Camping Gaz being discontinued. The new Camping Gaz cylinders have a new UK mark on them.
They are reducing at fuel stations as EV taking their place. Gas suppliers will still have tanks and some dealers are now looking to have their own for leisure customers. I would be surprised if it did happen with Campingaz, it’s such a convenient product. I use a 907 for one of my stoves
FYI. LPG is a general term for Propane and/or Butane.
As a full timer I have LPG refillable , great system saves a lot of money. But big problem soon it’s getting harder to find places to fill up. In winter I use 20lites a week. To change to calor gas would cost me over twice the money.
You suggest getting Gas checked every year, have you found a place to do this. Everyone I phone says no there to busy to fit job in. I’ve tried to no avail for 3 years.
Fuel depots I have found can provide and also leisure van retailers are becoming more common.
Regarding the gas checked, this can form part of a habitation check. Caravan and motorhome dealers should be able to do this
Has the supply of refillable gas got worse in the last year? Seems like many garages are replacing autogas with EV charging points.
I fitted a gaslow 2.7th refillable log tank and it’s works great. Costs a few pound to fill up which is key for me as the van has a propex gas heater so goes thought a fair bit
Might be worth looking at the safefill bottle that can be filled at petrol stations
That is another option worth considering
They are talking of doing away with LPG at filling stations within the next 2 years!! This is getting stupid I don't get it the demand is there within the leasure industry is this a ploy to get everyone to go full electric?
Yes pump numbers are reducing and being replaced by EV chargers. There has been an increase in new LPG pumps at leisure vehicle dealers, so hopefully more will install pumps so LPG is easily accessible
Buy a Coleman petrol stove, fuel readily available in every country. Carried in lightweight plastic container. Mega hot heat output. Cook outdoors you are 'camping' after all.
I've used one for 30 years, couldn't be doing with cooking on a ring with the output of a big candle. Don't like cooking smells in my upholstery and clothes either.
That is another option. Remember using those in the Scouts, many years ago.
The thing I wonder is that how a mixture of gas evaporates equally during all the lifetime of a gas bottle. LPG is a mixture of butane and propane. When you start using it, since propane has a greater "desire" to evaporate, I assume it will evaporate quicker than butane cooling the liquid content and further making the evaporation of butane difficult. I notice that when I start using a fresh camp canister, the flame is pale blue (mostly propane is burning) while towards the end of the canister, the flame color becomes turquoise like (butane is burning now). I kindly suggest to use propane (like many US people use), if possible.
I'm considering an underslung tank on my T25, but the big problem is that it would be a bit too low. I know that there's a lot of Westfalias out there with them fitted historically, but my tape measure tells me that I can't manage the 200mm clearance which seems to be required.
Wouldn’t bother, less and less retailers doing pump LPG.
Watched so many similar videos to this and have found Flogas as the best option. Spoke to Flogas depot in Wrexham and they said Flogas are not as difficult to find and the network is only going to increase due to Calor basically helping them to corner the small Campervan gas bottle market
UK fuel stations will soon be phasing out LPG pumps.
MFG are, however there are plenty of other suppliers and depots. And this is why some in the leisure industry have started having their own tanks installed.
There is so much change going to happen this decade with petrol/diesel/gas/electric who knows what the future holds.
C907 are now at £50 each even when you give an empty back
That’s from major gas dealer SIG in scotland
Flogas are going to increase sales after Calor kindly gave them the market for smaller Camper bottles
They certainly are. I understand they were a little busy after this announcement was made 🤣
@@StaycationLifestyle I managed to get 2 4.5kg Calor and have one in the stores so I’m lucky. Trying car boots for a Flogas bottle for future use
Calor gas isn't stopping selling campingaz as it stands if that helps.
No they are not at present, thankfully and hopefully they will continue to sell it
I have the underslung LPG tank on my transporter. The BBQ point is great and I use it for my cadac and a Kamper geyser for hot water.
The only thing you didn’t cover is filling up. In recent years less and less filling stations are selling LPG, leading me to be concerned that the supply will dry up.
That is true. Some fuel stations are replacing LPG with EV charging facilities. However I understand due to this, camper/camping and motor dealers have started to instal their own filling facilities.
Calor Gas deserve to go out of business.
It will take ten years to pay for itself that’s the issue we fitted a few in the past great but costly at nearly £600 for a 15 L tank
Good show... :)
Great timing for me this Video, I have a 907 Gas Bottle, although safe for now it does struggle at lower temperatures (Even with a insulation jacket on).
As I’m off to the Caravan & Motorhome show in a few weeks, I can weigh up all the options you’ve suggested.
What are you siding towards, Underslung?
I will be going underslung when I change my van. Dangerous going to shows like that. You will come back with a big shopping list 🤣
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Patio gas?
Change the regulator. Also it’s easier to get in Europe.
Unfortunatly have been hearing tales of LPG pumps being discontinued or taken out of forecourts.
Hopefuly just rumours
It is true. Some are being removed to be replaced by EV chargers. However more leisure outlets are having tanks installed.
Our Shell locally has removed its LPG pump
LPG on garage forecourts has a very limited future I have read
They are being replaced by EV charging in some cases, however there are gas depots that can be filled from along with retailers now installing their own tanks
Just an observation, bottles have corks, cylinders have valves.
Correct, however Calor actually refer to them as bottles also 😄
@@StaycationLifestyle do you think an induction hob is the future?
@@johnwebster2263 They are certainly becoming more popular, however most only use them for “on grid” camping. Although there has been a big increase over the last year of people buying portable power stations, to have 240v off grid.
Is gas as important these days, with the cost of solar generators coming down (or at least the capacity / £ ratio) maybe an induction hob is the answer?
Induction hobs are popular, but most conversions are still spec’d with a gas system of some kind.
Converting to an underslung LPG tank is actually quite poor advice. More and more stations are doing away with LPG because it doesn’t bring in revenue like it used to, plus garages are installing EV charge points where the LPG onsite tanks used to sit. Really think about it before you commit.
Leisure dealers are having tanks installed to help with this. And fuel depots also provide access for fill ups. Cost is much cheaper and lasts along time.
@@StaycationLifestyle I have an underslung feeding my Truma 4e, I’m glad there’s still going to be access around. Thanks for the info 👍🏼
@@Jarv263 Nice system. Won’t find one of them in Transporters.
Waste of time putting underslung gas tanks on nowadays. Less and less places to refill. Autotrail have removed theirs and made space for a 3.9kg which now is going to cause another issue with availability. Not heard about Camping Gaz being discontinued. The new Camping Gaz cylinders have a new UK mark on them.
They are reducing at fuel stations as EV taking their place. Gas suppliers will still have tanks and some dealers are now looking to have their own for leisure customers. I would be surprised if it did happen with Campingaz, it’s such a convenient product. I use a 907 for one of my stoves
We have gas delivered to the house to a 1200l tank. The lorry's have an acme fitting so can fill your under slung tank.
@@simoncummins1964 That's good, however i'm not sure it would be cost effective for them to come to my house for a 15l tank 😂
The depot where the trucks come from the may have a pump but the trucks would give you a bit of gas if you went there or that's what they told me.
@@simoncummins1964 That’s true. I know some depots are listed as suppliers