LPG after 2024 - What Will Happen?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The LPG demand in the UK is shrinking, there are less outlets to fill up from and major fuel stations are removing their LPG pumps. What's going on and how can you avoid getting caught out?
This is the 2nd version of this story due to being forced to remove the previous video after legal efforts were made to block it. Find out the full details yourself by reading the information linked below, this is not really new news, but a lot of people still don't know what's going on so I wanted to share the info to make people aware.
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Save LPG..my car runs on this and runs beautifully!!
Thank you John for your research done on this topic. I don't understand why you have received grief to the point of a legal threat for something that is correct. Cheers for keeping us in the loop and putting your head on the chopping block again. But I've just had a GasLow refillable system installed for travelling in Europe and the dealer did not mention anything about this to me. Please don't stop vlogging as I and others rely heavily on the information that you provide.
You can't always be loved but we love your vlogs so please carry on
John, I’ve just come across your channel as I was looking for information on this very topic. Really useful information and food for thought. Thanks. I haven’t seen the comments on previous video’s you refer too but hope you will be able to ignore them and keep up the good work. 👍
Sounds like it's not worth going to the expense of fitting Gaslow cylinders if we mainly stay in the UK John.
Hey John don't bother about all the idiots out there. As far as i can see you brought to our attention that LPG for our Gaslow tanks etc will become less and less available if something isn't done about it. I think they way you put out the first video was fair considering that all you did was gather the already available info that was out there quicker than i would have found out myself. Thanks as always for all your reliably checkable information pal.
John, take a bit of time away from youtube etc, concentrate on the van so you can get out on the road again, which is what you need right now i think, we all love your videos on builds and info , lets not let the keyboard wories stop what we all love making and watching. keep smiling big man, love and respect dude.
There are a group of people who research subjects through debate or data sets provided and try to draw attention if something is not right or looks to be going in a negative direction to the end user, welcome to that club, you will have your “I told you so” moment, I have have a few lately, however what I have found in the past few years people seem unable to move a position formed when, new, better information becomes available.
I would say carry on, as in this case your views are most welcome and backed up it seems, some will not follow, they can’t. For the rest of us ongoing debate within this community should be nothing but a benefit.
Debate is fine, like you say it’s just sad that some people can’t be budged from a bad opinion.
@@GadgetJohn This a personal observation and not at all based on LPG. On any topic a middle ground position in which to form an opinion seems to work best for me, so if a narrative is a given, then it seems from a basis of balance you have to venture to the other side of the argument and work your way back until that balance is found., Nowt wrong with that, works for me and I am older than you, so its proven for me.
What I have found in the past few years, the middle ground position is not welcome, you MUST be for one side of the other. I don’t recall in my 62 years on the planet such behaviour as the norm. On the LPG issue you are ahead of the curve, imparting information with sources, but its not on the radar for people, not yet a narrative and for some reason its a problem….LPG, good god, heaven help us with climate, war and health matters.
I say what I think and learned when to not bother with detractors, from your video’s I have learn’t what to do and perhaps not what to do, thats a honest position to have John
John, like the majority of commenters on here, I also appreciate all the hard work that goes into making excellent and informative videos. I've been a follower for years and hope this doesn't make you stop - please don't!!🤞
Don’t give up John. I can’t afford a camper, so I live my dreams of van life through youtuder’s especially your channel. I look forward to your vlogs and wish you did more. I am a taxi driver, I’ve met thousands of people and can say most people can be nasty at times. That’s just a fact that will never change. IGNORE THEM. 😊
Hi John, Many thanks for raising the awareness of this issue. Those with a vested interest in the survival of forecourt LPG (which includes those who produce refillable tanks and the manufacturers/builders that incorporate them into their vans) should focus their efforts on campaigning to improve its availability rather than attempting to silence those who are informing us about its sad demise. As an Autosleeper owner with an underslung LPG tank I have been concerned for a while about the difficulty in obtaining LPG and what I am going to do in the future. It concerns me that so many new vans from large companies are being sold with underslung tanks as a "feature" to naive consumers who are not aware of this. About time something was done !
Carry on John I found your video very helpful its a woory about gas for the leisure industry
Sorry you've had a tough few days John. Please keep up the informative videos if you can, we've learnt a lot from watching you, both van info and travels.
Hi John, this is my 1st ever comment on YT. You have perhaps been targeted by big industry who are pushing EV's. I'm hoping to buy a campervan with LPG already installed & won't be put off. People are always going to need LPG.
Hi John. It was a pleasure to meet you at NEC and it is really upsetting to hear about your experiences of the last few days. We really hope you will be able to ignore the idiots out there and appreciate that 99.99% of your viewers are not like that.
I'm lucky that in my area I have 4 sites that sell LPG that are not petrol stations. The one I use mostly, use a tag system that allows 24hr access. Plus I have a big enough tank that I fill up every few months. And I am full time too. Good info 👍
That’s a great service option, maybe an idea for others to do the same 👍🏻
Hi John. Personally I want to thank you for making us aware of what's happening. I actually gave up on LPG a year or so back due to supply issues. I have one independent supplier about a mile away who's about to close down, the next one is about 20 miles away. I've now gone lithium and solar with an induction hob for cooking, Costly to set up - yes but I'm now completely self sufficient. Maybe the answer is not to rely on forecourts but to encourage some of the larger dealers and camp sites to provide LPG fill points, after all they will have a captive market. There will be more than a few LPG storage tanks and pumps available as the forecourts abandon them. It might even convince me to dig out the refillable bottles again. Guess we just have to wait and see !
I totally agree with you, I have been saying for ages that the larger campsites should look at installing LPG refill points. Im sure if the big clubs did a survey the majority of both caravan and motorhome owners would say yes.
John, you are a valued contributor to the motor homing and vanning community and I always look forward to watching your balanced and well researched posts. Sadly, some are hell bent on spreading their bigoted opinions onto others as they see it as unfair that they are miserable whilst others are happy. Bugger them all, carry on what you’re doing and rise above it.
I’ve had a similar experience on an Owners Club where I spoke of the removal of LPG availability within garage forcourts and I too received a load of abuse one of which stated it was ‘false news’ and taken from ‘unreliable sources’….hmmm, my ‘unreliable sources’ include the ONS and Shell UK.
People just seem to be in denial as it’s going to be all gone before too long. Perhaps not commercially but certainly for Joe Public….Simples.
Strange that people think it’s not going on, even stranger when the messenger gets more grief than the companies causing the problem 🤬
John, you have contributed immensely on so many topics to our "community"; the snotty stupid people haven't. There are hundreds of people who are cleverer, smarter and better informed thanks to you sharing your knowledge and experiences. Just rise above the sh1te Bud.
Well done John keep up the good work you do,i don’t often comment but I feel you’ve had a bad deal,please please please don’t let them get under your skin remember there are more with you than against you thanks for all you do.😊
You can never please everybody John. I for one appreciate your informative videos, and respect your knowledge. I have spent many hours watching and learning from your vast experience with electrics, and more recently, your unique van build. Don't be a sheep, keep treading your own path, and thank you for your content so far ....
Don't loose the faith John, you're bigger, than listening to the weasels in our world. You're contribution is invaluable and respected.
Thanks for your factual updates John. Those of us it affects are appreciative. Screw those who give the abuse for whatever reason. 😡
Hi John, really sorry to hear you've had a load of hassle on your last video - we appreciate what you do and have learned lots and admire all of the great videos you've produced. Thank you - please don't give up - it's really helpful and great and everyone should do their own validation anyway on how anything applies to them and their specific circumstances and how it would impact them individually - the gift of google!
All the best, David & Rachel 👍
John i do sympathise with you. But YOU just called people idiots .until you don't act this way I can't see it stopping
Thanks for calling me out on that, it’s a very fair comment 👍🏻
The trouble is that those people are idiots and need this to be pointed out to them
@@michaelowen5826 well done it only makes them more likely to respond. Iv put my head over the wall before trying to make a point only to ridiculed. Responding only fans the 🔥
In the past vlog, I mentioned putting the cat among the pigeons. My van is currently getting built, It's costing me ££££. I want information like yours, which allows me to make informed decisions about my long-term vanlife plans. Without healthy debates and discussions, I might make the wrong decisions.
Keep up the great work John.
I'm also going through a build and I opted for underslung LPG, now I'm not so sure...
Thanks for the video. I still use LPG in my car and it will be a great shame to see it disappear. I thought with the introduction of the Dacia cars that run on LPG from the dealer/new, it would make a bit of a comeback as a clean alternative to EV
Thank you John for the research you have done on this topic. I simply don't understand why you have received grief, to the point of a legal threat, for summarising what is a verifiable fact. Thank you for persisting and putting your neck on the line.
My thought is the industry is trying to hide the facts, me reminding people of what’s coming means less sales for them.
Trying to hide the facts from all interested parties; working on the principle that the fewer people that know, the fewer concerns will be raised until its too late and the axe falls
Hi John, I’m so sorry to hear your getting grief for making factual vlogs about LPG, I think you’re right the reason could be that the industry are trying to hide facts, please don’t let them stop you from doing what you’re great at the vast majority of us would miss your informative vlogs. I’m really concerned about this, we’re in the process of selling up to go fulltime in a motorhome, we will be upgrading from our camper van to a larger a class motorhome and would be relying on LPG for our heating and cooking, we watched a great vlog from Jon of Life Beyond Bricks on how much cheaper refillable gas is over electric, I have no idea what we’ll do if we can’t get LPG.
Keep the good work up
What happened to free speech
Hi John I’ve been following your channel for a long time now and your information and knowledge have been invaluable. Please don’t let the idiots stop you making such good honest, intelligent, well researched content !! You’ve been and still are a great help to the vast majority of this community, good sound guidance and advice. Give you self time to process this unpleasant event, we all need time. It’s impossible to eliminate the idiots but thankfully I’m sure they are a small pathetic minority. Stay positive onwards and upwards!!
Hi John, it's a great shame people don't pause for a moment and digest information before taking their anger about this, and other, events out on the messenger. Anyone with their eyes half open will have already picked up on the discussion about changes to LPG availability from 2 years ago.
I'm absolutely happy to be part of a generous discussion about my leisure activities, especially when people bring serious issues to the community, and provide verifiable links to build on my knowledge if they have them.
Threats of court action from a salesman are for the birds, idiots in motion mostly. Denying the facts would never get very far in court. RUclips trolls are usually just angry about their own inadequacies, and perpetuate their predicaments by not attempting to master the skills of critical thinking. We should pity them.
As for the rest of us, I welcome the information you and others freely give out and I'm sure I've directly benefited on more than one occasion. So, don't be downhearted John, you have a massive following and most love what you and Mandy bring to this happy space.
Press on John, you and Mandy are doing alright. 👏 👏👏 👋
Take no notice of people that are jealous of your channel,your doing a great job keeping people up to date with the latest problems in the motorhome community,if some are unhappy,they can unsubscribe!!! Keep up the good work,and remember that we're subscribed to your channel,because we are interested,and enjoy your content.Derek.
Hi John
I’ve been following you for the best part of a year and on the brink of becoming a full time van lifer. Your videos are extremely interesting. You are not a salesman, you give out sensible suggestions on all products you use. Please do not let the morons of the web stop you. You have enough going on in your life as it is at the moment. Keep your chin up and please give my best regards to you other half.
John Please please keep giving us the great information and knowledge you have about camping and gadgets .Love your channel.
Hi John, thank you so much for your very informative vlog yet again. Thank you for taking the time to research this for us too.
I currently live full time in our lovely caravan, so we use Flogas, but in the future hope to get an RV of some description. I will be signing the petition for all it will affect today/ next year and also for the future of LPG. Thanks once again mate.
Hi John, I’m so sorry to hear your getting grief for making factual vlogs about LPG, I think you’re right the reason could be that the industry are trying to hide facts, please don’t let them stop you from doing what you’re great at the vast majority of us would miss your informative vlogs. I’m really concerned about this, we’re in the process of selling up to go fulltime in a motorhome, we will be upgrading from our camper van to a larger a class motorhome and would be relying on LPG for our heating and cooking, we watched a great vlog from Jon of Life Beyond Bricks on how much cheaper refillable gas is over electric, I have no idea what we’ll do if we can’t get LPG.
If you keep your LPG needs to cooking ( which it is really good at), and do everything else with either diesel or electric, then you should find that your gas fill is taken over a much longer span. Over the next few years, when you haven't got as much choice where you fill up, it won't be that inconvenient if you have to fill every couple of months and go out of your way a bit. On the other hand, if the fridge and heating are all gas, then you will be refilling every week and it will become a pain.
Hi Voyage Adventure Vans, thank you, that makes sense but the motorhome we’re interested in has Alde heating, running that on electric would be pretty expensive.
@@wheelersinthewild We have Alde heating and running it on gas is very expensive also. It can empty a 6kg calor bottle in less than 2 days
Hi John I've never commented to any RUclipsr but feel like I have to say your spot on with your comments about LPG I use energas as I live in Hull and there deport is local to me I carry a spare bottle in my boot and will never run out not rocket science but seems some of us are sensible like yourself well done for speaking out cheers Neil
It's baffling that you have so much issues with LPG. Here in Greece it's literally everywhere. LPG market is expanding here instead of decreasing.
Same here in Romania.
Like most on here John, I am so sorry you’ve had to endure this kind of behaviour. Please don’t let the minority ruin it for the majority to whom you have always been most helpful and informative.
Thanks for the video, I totally agree with your analysis, in the process of moving to diesel for heating, and electric for cooking. The only thing I would say to the Petrol stations, is that when I buy LPG, I always fill up the diesel, so loose the LPG and you loose a Unique selling point that creates the potential for other sales.
LPG is by far the cleanest transport fuel in the world but the Politics gets in the way again promoting diesel as the alternative. LPG provides more power and less wear and tear when set up properly. Keep LPG going.
Far from being boring John, I found this a very interesting video. LPG is getting harder to get and will get harder, but will still be available (albeit not as easily and may take more planning). In this video you make that quite clear.
@@alanhat5252 Our rural house has a 2000 litre tank for heating and cooking, and typically a home will need that refilling annually. I wouldn't want to have to keep swapping the 47kg cylinders you mentioned; they wouldn't last very long!
I take from this that anyone who has a different view is classed as an idiot so no point me putting my point of view
Not at all, there are plenty of different opinions in the comments. I shouldn’t have used the idiot statement & I apologise. It was really in reference to the people who argued they couldn’t charge EVs where the lpg pumps are.
Thanks for the information John. Unfortunately some people don't want to hear things they don't like, even when it is true. Hang in there, your information is valued by the majority of us.
Sad to hear that. In Poland we have roughly 3 mln LPG running vehicles on the road,and you can get Lpg literally at every one gas station in the country (7000 stations). Right now 50% of yearly lpg volume comes from Russia (1.2 mln tonnes out of 2.5 mln) but with UE LPG ban on the horizon -Lpg prices could go up drastically( right now 1L of lpg is 60 % less than 1 L of gas/petrol)
A naturally aspirated engine with LPG instalation is one of the best compromise between , longevity, cheap to run and keeping the most of engines power, even for towing power. Hybrids might be cheap to run but for people that needs towing/carry things, a verry big engine is required. EV`s and PHEV`s also have that problem, plus the range is crap depending on the carry load and wheather outside and the time you need for charging and the battery swap after 10 -15 years and ...etc.
For me a simple aspirated engine with LPG is the best outthere still!
Great video as per John !
Keep going 99.9% will always support you guys this is what family does 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻# legend
Thank you 🙌
I'm a 65 Yr young lady with camper. I want to thank you and Mandy for giving me the courage to go out in the van with just me and 2 dogs. My hubby would rather be on a beach in the sun for 5 days than having as much time as he wants with van.
Please don't stop the very much needed informative videos either of you. I didn't know about solar panels or batteries or eco loos or diesel heaters to mention a few topics you have covered.
You would be greatly missed if you stopped.
If eejots see that they're getting under your skin it will only encourage them to do more so just ignore them. My local independent garage is keeping its LPG pump for the forseeable future - if chains like MFG close their LPG outlets it means more business/viability for it. The only aggravation is planning ahead to find LPG outlets and keeping topped up.
John Hi. Like you we run a channel that aims to help, inform and even guide folks through the minefield that is an alternative lifestyle. We dont comment on all you and Mandy's vids. But We do watch them. The reason we watch your channel is because we know that when making statements around these subjects you have done the research, evaluated the product or service, based on the information gained at source. That you take great care to ensure that the valued judgements that you give (for free) is accurate, based on facts that are readily available and have the benefit of your actual on the road experience. While not campers/van life people, our small traveling home we suffer the same issues; regarding the cost and availability of gas (LPG) and the cost per kilowatt hour of electricity provided from a pedestals, etc. (Sometimes this can be 10 times the domestic rate!! ) Cid and I fully support you, your channel and the excellent, invaluable and informative information given freely, to help others and pay it forward. Bless you matey. Crack on and keep doing what your doing. Regards Ant.
Vehicular LPG came about after Thatcher objected to oil companies flaring gas. So if no LPG at the fuel station what happens to all the gas. By the ways mains gas in Portugal is Butane, go figure.
it is ludicrous that this is happening the whole of the EU they are growing as vehicles that run dual fuel are cleaner and cheaper to run just shows you how backward this country is. makes me mad .
You have put a lot of effort into your content and you do it for the right reasons. Thank you for this. Hopefully you will feel more positive soon. Do whats best for you John but it will be our loss if you stop doing your videos. G
Try not to allow the idiots to deter you from helping others John. I personally think that the nudge from you over the demise of LPG and Calor is a significant bit of information and very helpful.
Chin up John.
Don't let the dickheads grind you down.
Love to you and Mandy.
😊👍💙
Hi John, whilst the information you provided wasn’t music to my ears after splashing out on a refillable safefill bottle a few months back it was something I was totally unaware of. Unfortunately social media can be a cruel environment. For those unhappy with the news ,you have now provided an outlet for their frustrations. If we want to keep lpgs available it is down to the people to raise it to government not to harass you. Keep providing the great content and ensure you enjoy doing it. Thank you John.
I remember Gordon Brown when he was Prime Minister saying he's going to make sure there was at least one LPG pump in every town or city in the UK
total bummer John sorry you've had a hard time for just trying to help people. please keep up with your informative videos. like others have said we as a community have learnt a lot form you be it about van builds, van life info or travelling. you've opened my eyes to what is out there be it good or bad or places to visit. this is the downside of the internet that there will always be people hiding behind a keyboard to cause trouble. STUFF THEM Jon, your heart is in the right place and your a kind soul who likes to help people. take care stay safe
Sorry to hear you’ve had a tough few days John. I’m very grateful for the information and videos you share. I don’t comment much or I’m careful what I say as after a tough few years for me I now find it very difficult to deal with any form of conflict and I just steer away from it. So I can only imagine what you’ve been through but I hope this positive comment goes a small way to making up for the crap. Thank you again for all your hints tips and advice from a person hoping to start a build this year.
Hi John,
You know that I’ve been following you for years. I can’t believe how angry and super sensitive some people are. I find your videos educational and interesting. I’m glad you’ve done this video because LPG is more difficult to get now.
Don’t give up, keep on producing quality videos for us.
Hi John, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please, Please don’t quit YT Your views and news on van building, motorhomes and especially the gadgets brings so much value to many many people !!!!
Appreciate the time you've spent putting this together and all the effort you put into sharing useful information and experiences. Please keep it up
great vid as always John , informative , honest and backed up by facts . sorry you had a hard time due to idiots . sometimes the truth hurts for some . got a friend watching all your content now , he is moving into a van next week and told me he has learned so much from you . deisel heater stuff, gas , electrics etc . glad i told him about you .
John under no circumstances you give up putting out these videos! your conveying good information, we met you and Mandy on Sunday at NEC, you are thoroughly nice people, forget the idiots who criticise don’t give into them you have a voice as does everyone else, yours is the one worth listening to, Ian and Sharon 👍
John, at the end of the day I always say .. live life based upon your values, to do otherwise will only bring you down to the levels of those who can’t stand to see you succeed! Keep on trucking!
Keep up the good work you are doing, informing the community of what's happening in the future. It's a pity the 2 big Caravan Clubs aren't providing the information. I'm pleased I live in Portugal where LPG is freely available, indeed the apartment block I live in uses LPG for its gas supply.
Keep up your excellent vlogs.
Oh these card readers maybe I'd put on the minimum amount initially, boil the kettle and see how much it cost. Then put on additional amount when it's down to a pound?? I've not seen meters yet
Thank you John I appreciate your video because I have a car that runs on LPG, and I was thinking of buying an LPG van because fuel prices are mad
Am I being stupid? Isn’t this an opportunity for the C&C club and the C&M club to show support for their members and install LPG filling stations in their sites. They have the space and presumably there is some profit in it. Plus the people who need it are the actual people who are staying at their sites. Perhaps they could pilot it with 5 sites each. If it is a commercial success and demonstrates benefits, they could roll it out to other sites in 2024.
Don't you dare give up your channel because of these #rseh#les. All of your respectable decent followers get where you are coming from. We need and love you John. 👍❤️👊
If there is one takeaway from you raising this topic, it's that nothing lasts forever... and it's completely out of our hands.
Fortunately, sunshine will continue to be free. Solar gets us pretty close to self-reliance with what we get up to in the back of the vehicle.
How can there be a 'continued decrease in demand' when more and more folk are buying campers? I think it's just part of the larger plan to make us all electric ☹️🤦♀️
Very informative. Keep these discussions going. Never mind the critics they have narrow minds
John perfect response to the naysayers. Keep at it for the vast majority who really appreciate your insights and knowledge.
Hi John, your videos are for entertainment purposes. I personally enjoy them. In today’s society it seems that if someone disagrees with an opinion instead of an intelligent discussion it turns into abuse. Which reflects on the intelligence and naïvety of the abusers. I’m old school so I’d say bollocks to them. Carry on your videos and use your middle finger more. Good luck.
Keep doing what you do John. It is invaluable for people like myself. Im slowly converting a minibus into a camper and invested in a refillable lpg system but have not yet installed. Your video made me do my own investigation into the availability of lpg. Strangely the suppliers of refillable systems don't mention the decline of filling stations only point to sites who list stations who have lpg pumps. And quiet a few of those listed say lpg is currently unavailable. One of the big refillable system suppliers make a big deal they have installed a pump at one of their sites. Great if you live near Lougborough!! I can't afford to invest in lithium batteries yet so the alternative options you provided in your video have made me rethink my setup. Once again thankyou for your informative videos and please keep making them. 👏👏👏
Keep the faith John. You are not alone!
Unfortunately John the world and especially the Internet is full of idiots that hide behind there keyboards, ignore them mate and keep the good work that you do, love your videos :)
Oh John all the year’s you and Mandy have been making these great videos I thought you would have grown a thick skin by now. you know that most people enjoy your videos me included you give great advice and are always honest and up front which is very rare on youtube. Please take no notice of all the idiots on here keep the videos going. for someone like me after a hard day’s slog it’s nice to sit down and watch n listen to someone with a bit of common sense don’t let them get you down mate . All the best Paul Calvert.😊
The thick skin comment means you must think it’s ok for people to throw abuse at me? I think differently and I’m also keeping a lot of info back, so you’re going to have to understand things escalated to a very uncomfortable level.
I’m shocked at the vitriol and abuse you receive for seeking to help and advise others. You work hard to help and educate people like us with less experience. We truly appreciate the effort you put in to educate, assist and help others. Keep up the great work. Kindest regards
Unfortunately John, as this channel has a good number of subscribers, you are always going to get people who disagree with your views. But some will do it politely and in a discussion, where others will just be rude. You also have those who are just out to pick an argument and it may not even matter what they actually think....they still may well just want to be argumentative. You only have to look on the current Facebook groups to see that people will get quite stuck in on even the most trivial matters. As a prominent RUclipsr you are probably almost a target for some.
Perhaps it's a sign of the times? Is it worse on this channel as opposed to your combined travel channel? I get the impression it may be worse when you are having an opinion on a subject, so god help me if my channel grows🤣🤣🤣.
But as someone else pointed out, it's really only a fraction of 1% that are rude and in reality there are hundreds more positive comments.
Personally I am not overly concerned that gas will become impossible to get hold of, but it is definitely going to be harder to access and require more planning of journeys to accommodate it and if necessary, planning a build to deal with it.
It was certainly interesting to see the research you put in and the country's attitude to provision of LPG.
Chin up..Ed
Thanks for the info John, our van is reliant on refillable LPG as we have a Gaslow system so this was really interesting to listen to your update. I’ll be definitely signing the petition, thanks again 👍
Absolutely criminal that the LPG network is dying! This is completely down to successive governments not only refusing to support it's use, TFL, for a very short time, exempted LPG vehicles from the congestion charge, that didn't last long! it is, after all, much cleaner than Petrol or Diesel. There is/was an independent LPG network based around the Cheltenham area stretching as far as Oxford, I believe, it cost just £5 for the access key (a physical one!).
Well done John the problem is the truth hurts. Between this and the cost of electricity on campsites the future looks a little bit expensive.
Hi John thanks for yet another informative vlog I always look forward to the next one. I can only agree with you about LPG as three years ago when we went to Cornwall I struggled to get LPG and was told there was only two stations in the county and they were both independent so ignore the ignorant people as most of us think you’re doing a great job. By the way it was nice talking to you both at the NEC.
Why is always the good channels (by good I mean technical info rather than opinion /promotions/waffle) that are targeted?
Please DO hang in there John, your efforts ARE appreciated, for their honesty as well as their tech content.
Hi John, sorry you’ve had these issues. Vested interests!!! Thanks for the info about the petition, I’ve signed up and I hope all of us who rely on LPG will also do so. There are no LPG stations left in Edinburgh or my nearest City Dundee. There are a couple of places on industrial units but as you said they have limited opening hours. I purchased a new campervan last yr which has an underslung tank not realising that it was a problem. Please don’t get disheartened, most of us appreciate the information and will pass it on to others who might be interested. Incidentally I my previous house all heating and cooking was done with LPG we had a large tank in the garden.
Thanks for this video John. It is worrying the way things are going. We have refillable bottles and often use Morrisons for LPG. If they are removed they will lose our diesel fill up and food purchases in the store. Between that and the rising costs of campsites I don't know how much longer we'll keep the motorhome, which is a shame.
Keep the good work up
Apppreciate your integrity John.
Don’t let the trolls take your energy and bring you down to their low vibrations and frequency.
Just ignore and do not reply.
Pitty your not from Aussie land John, this article is very interesting and informative, but just need you on our side of the pond. (:
Hi John. I came to the NEC at the Mirider stall. Were you there? Any way, that aside, I and believe me when I say there are many others, value your opinion. What has kept me and us following your channel is your honesty, calling a spade a spade. You back up your opinions with facts and research so why do others think they can shut you up. Carry on John, we are behind you 100%
We were with MiRiDER on Thursday, Friday & Saturday from 11am to 1pm 👍🏻 after that we were walking around and at other parts of the show
Thank you for doing what you do!! Appreciated 👍👍👍👍. While there isn’t a cure for stupid, you can always mask the sounds using Duct Tape! 😉😉
John. I find the information that you share is so useful. I look forward to you videos each week, even though I don’t own a camper van or motorhome at the moment. You help me dream. To have such a negative feedback by what only can be described as bullies, really annoys me. If it wasn’t for people like you highlighting possible future issues, I wouldn’t have had a clue. Keep on going John and Mandy, we are behind you. Just keep blocking them !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks as always for an informed, balanced information mate 👍
Hi John, l live in Australia the No1 supplier of LPG l believe in the world. The scandle here is the Australian Goverment several years ago allowed the big oil companies to build an infistructure to mine and export LPG and they get the gas FREE. Yep! you heard correct FREE. On top of that the corporations do not pay tax. I have just bought an LPG ford falcon car which allows me to pay $1 per ltr instead of $2 per litre so cheap motoring. There is a lot more to this story but being eco friendly l wanted to do my bit for the planet and not buy a diesel, petrol or even electric car which all polute more. My friends have electric teslas but these run off coal burning power stations here in Australia.
I know this is a old vid, the link to Calors press release is now dead, i wonder why....trying to find a copy of it because i have a number of the smaller propane bottles and not sure what am going to do when they are all empty.
Hi John, thanks for the informative video. This will affect me as well as a lot of Motorhome / Campervan owners so thanks for the heads up which I was not aware of. I watch your and Mandy's videos weekly and enjoy them immensely and also use the contents to improve/modify my MH. Please keep producing great content. Ignore and block the idiots.
It seems nowadays we get bad news on a monthly even weekly basis, there will probably be a way round the LPG issue in due course but as we have a new motorhome on order with an on board LPG tank thank you for bringing it to my attention. I watch all of your and Mandy's videos and always will. Thanks John.
Cheers John excellent video.
I've already had my local calor gas filling staff inform me lpg will be fazed out in the next few years 🤷♂️. Your info certainly eludes to why and confirms what he said.
Why the halfwits wish to threaten to sue you is rather baffling info is in the public domain for all to make their own opinion however when internal staff also confirm a fazing out of lpg, what are we supposed to think? 🤦♂️
Keep up the good content, ignore the naysayers and muggles. 👊💪
Yet another really excellent factual video John. I, like so many others, have relied on your honesty and integrity for a number of years and I don't think that you have ever let us down. A product may work really well for a period of time but you are not afraid of informing us when some unexpected fault suddenly appears. When full-timing we cannot, or in my view should not, rely on just one source of energy and a mix of electricity and gas provides us with the alternative that we need when one of them fails, especially in winter. The information that you provided on LPG was based on fact and it has helped us to consider the options for the future. Personally I believe that even if the garages stop selling LPG then an alternative source of supply will emerge to meet the demand, perhaps not as widespread but accessible. Today I paid £0.79/litre for LPG but I would be quite happy to pay £1.00/litre because it is a fantastic source of energy for cooking and in an emergency for heating. You have over 30,000 subscribers that support you.
I can tell by my town's example (Swindon), back in 2014-2017 when I drove a LPG converted car there were 3 autogas filling stations in town (one at one of the fuel stations open to all public and two keysites - calor and countrywide). Currently the closest autogas filling stations are some 20 miles away which according to the website you show have been mostly 'temporarily out of order'. Only recently, because of the fuel prices I was considering converting my car to LPG but it simply doesn't seem to make any financial sense. I could maybe even live with doing a 40 mile round trip to fill the car up once in a few weeks but if it happened that the filling station would be closed or out of order then it becomes a 40 mile hit and miss and it starts to be easier overall to drive on petrol saving wasted fuel and time. It's a real shame thins went downhill so fast. I keep wondering what makes Britain so reluctant to driving LPG converted cars. Most of Europe seems to have plenty of autogas stations.
Hi John, just watched your film , I was thinking of buying a Nissan Elgrand & converting to LPG/campervan, I had no idea the availability was so bad & prices seem so high now, sorry to hear what's happened, you're clearly a decent bloke just trying to tell us the facts, Respect mate & thank you😊
“Iceberg ahead!” And you’d be accused of trying to sell life jackets.