Why SARM Only Cycles Are A Bad Idea
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Wow Derek's face changed so much from when he was this fluffy
damn he looks worn out
Maybe Fin
Body fat percentage
Probably on some super physiologically hormone 😭
I noticed just yesterday seeing him on a podcast, that he's definitely allowed himself to slim down and lose a lot of the muscle mass he had. It was probably hard to maintain that size so he dialed back
Feel like Derek is the biggest part of the natural movement just by being honest about the bs of PEDs
Derek is literally the reason I never got into sauce, I always thought I'd just hop on low dose trt and skip side affects, boy was that wrong, imma wait till I'm 40 then sauce my face off
Is that why he's worse than women
Faker than last time 😂😂
Oh and blindly follow thoughts and emotions like a fking aninal 👍🏻
@@marcz239same here. I was so close to blindly hopping on a cycle at like 19 before I knew anything about it, thank god Derek’s videos scared me away from it. I would’ve been fucked
@@marcz239I’m now 40, always thought I’d be the same, but now all that matters is long term health and aesthetics matter, but not as much lol. Derek convinced me not to go down that road
@@marcz239you’re going to wait til you’re older and more prone to health issues to start destroying your health? Knock yourself off
Broccoli tiktok bros destroying their T for just looking a bit more aesthetic, when they could have waited some more years working out to look aesthetic
I never knew that haircut had a name. Half the guys under 21 at my gym have that stupid haircut and sometimes I just wanna laugh when I see like 6 of them together
Same bro that curly haircut is so NPC.
@@kaushikmalakar7299 there's a Zoomer Haircut NPC wojak, it's great.
@@JeremySlayer I don't get it. Pls tell me what haircut
@@apexpredator7422 I think he was talking about the broccoli hair thing
More plates more plates
You might get more dates but you will soon become known as limp dick which will then in turn result in, no dates at all.
More sarms more arms
😂😂😂
More tren more men
@@dem0lishersbrother133underrated comment
more sarms more cancer(:
I really have no idea what bro be talking about but he sounds so educated that I like to listen.
Facts lol
SARMs - Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators, which have similar anabolic effects like anabolic steroids, but with reduced androgenic (producing male characteristics) properties. As an example, the androgen receptor is activated by binding androgens, such as testosterone. Unlike anabolic steroids, which bind to androgen receptors in many tissues all over the body, individual SARMs selectively bind androgen receptors in certain tissues, but not in others.
In medical settings, this could be very useful for stimulating specific tissue growth like muscle and bone, while avoiding unwanted side effects in other tissues like the liver or skin (acne, hair loss, etc). But like Derek said, there will be negative feedback as a result of this such as the testes not producing anymore testosterone, so you need to take some sort of other base along with SARMs to counter that. Or do PCT (post cycle therapy) after the 8 weeks to minimize negative health effects.
Stop spitting out what you read on the internet. Sarms absolutely will wreck your lipids and liver enzymes, trust me. Research real world experiences newbie!!
@@michaelselz3389 well of course those unwanted bad side effects can’t be completely avoided if people abuse the hell outta sarms and don’t properly take them. They’re just the one step right below straight up test and other steroids.
@@kennynakawaki at the recommended dosage, all Sarms WILL wreck your lipids, kidney values, and even place stress on the kidneys and increase BP
Well said….
@@KingOfCreampies good stuff is called that for a reason
I just did 3 months on rad-140. Took a natural t booster every day with it. Not only did I not have any side effects, I absolutely blew up. Incline bench for example went up 40 lbs.
I just finished my PCT and although I have not had my blood work done, I feel better than I ever have. My libido and function is all top notch
I’ve done two cycles of sarms and surprisingly haven’t noticed any of these side effects. I did get these sores that popped up one or twice
do you lose your sarms gains if you go off them?
@@jatinverma6759 sadly when I went off I fell off with going to the gym. Couldn’t really tell you
@@ralondrohrback4115 oh I see. How much muscle did you lose after quitting both?
@@jatinverma6759 definitely lost some muscle but I’ve retained a lot of it. My appetite fell off since I had surgery for my appendix right around the same time so I’ve lost some size
@@ralondrohrback4115yeah I was 84kg now
I’m 78 3 weeks
Of rad 140
Just finished a 30 day stack of rad140, mk677 and ostarine, all 15mg each per day.
I’m 6’2 105kg 35 years old
Gained some solid strength and size considering I’ve been natty till now.
Didn’t consider PCT before I started, felt lame last week, did a blood test and my testosterone is at 1.62, ridiculously low.
Eloquently stated derek 🤙🏾
What's based should be user
Personally I havent had these symptoms when using sarms responsibly but on my 2 cycle I got cocky and didnt space it out with proper pct and crashed. Felt tired and loss muscle/weight but I also did get sick at that time so its hard to tell aha.
How long between your first and second cycle of SARMs did you wait? Also, what SARM?
I'm the same every year i do a good 8-12 weeks on it at the recommended does and have never had any sort of bad effects. But tbh its hard to say what will be working as i then fast , do HIIT and up the work outs but still no ill effect. I just am starting to think that the "gains" you get from a proper dose are pretty damn small. This summer im gonna give it a miss and see. I think all this bad side effect shit is when as per usual people start taking double and triple the doses.
what are some good base options to run with your sarms
Enclomiphene sold as clomid
Could someone link to the full video?
I got you ruclips.net/video/cE0wfjsybIQ/видео.htmlm15s
@@massojupiter3436 i got rickrolled lol
@@massojupiter3436 god damnit I've been crabbed
you ever find the vid?
I take ashwaghanda, zink and magnesium along with a multivitamin while on Sarms. No issues with suppression.
Run it with enclomiphene citrate. It's a game changer.
dosage?
@@jack6565
I was alr using ashwagannda everyday before starting not knowimg it would help alot same thing here no issue
try running 6.5 - 12.5 mg enclo ED aswell
@@jack6565where you get
Idk what is up with my body chemistry, but i ran 30 mg of RAD140 for 8 weeks, now off, zero sides OTHER THAN noticeable aggression/short temper and irritability. No sexual performance issues, 12 or so lean lb gain out of 15 total lbs. Had 346 ng/dl total t before starting, idk if low t played into my experience (eg lack of hormones to start so what difference could it make).
what was your total t after the pct
dude 30 mg is pretty hardcore with rad is usually about 10 mg per day
I am thinking about RAD 140 or now RAD 150 - which should be more active and better form. I know I have a low T so RAD is little bit like a T so I would run it for 8 weeks maximum and then 4 weeks some pct .
I’d recommend adding enclomephene citrate to your suppressive sarm cycles(yk rad lgd) from week 4-6 onwards and continue it into pct
This has helped me practically avoid 80% of suppression altogether and anything that happens is so mild that I could honestly just pass it off as having a rough day
How often should we take the test? And the enclomophene? Dude I genuinely would like to have a conversation with you I'm very much considering it
@@saikofortytwo7526 u want to take blood pressure test+blood work be4 cycle mid cycle and after it. So all things are in check, also be carefull of side effects etc.
@@saikofortytwo7526 u want to have blood work+ pressure be4 cycle and mid cycle, after cycle too. Keep everything in check. Rad is especially good with cardarine+ u need some base. That would be clomid or in better version enclomephene.
@@vladamikynacze3471 thanks a bunch man
I'm very glad and having tons of fun researching as much as I can before I take the real thing
@@saikofortytwo7526 yeah, always safety 1st i would consider some peptide like tadalafil to help w those pumps too 💪💪
"Base of some sort" "doesnt need to be test necessarily" oh boy cant wait for my tren+ rad140 only cycle😂
Nandrolone would work
Enclo
hes talking about something that produces estrogen.
Ran a 12 week cycle of rad 140 with amped up test booster by iprevail and an estrogen blocker. Shit worked like a dream for bulking
would this gear cream im seeing be a base?
Derek any insights on working out and coping with psoriasis. I see a lot of information on limiting food intake, but I am trying to get bigger and stronger. I'm 22 lean, lift 5 days a week. Otherwise very healthy. The psoriasis is a condition that just started and I am trying to wrap my head around this and not be depressed. Adjusting diet and routine is difficult enough but I really am trying to become stronger and put on size. Thanks!
I just got diagnosed too, shits wack
Exactly what the old 1AD did as well.
Ah, the Patrick Arnold days.
@@larz456 Exactly!
Worse than that is kidney function. Fuck all the other noise. When your kidneys are screaming for mercy and you keep on pounding SARMS without any cycle support that’s what will fuck you up.
What's wrong with a little renal failure between friends?
I did a few weeks (maybe more) of an ostarine only cycle, and I felt great. It could well have been that my estrogen has always very high, so by lowering my testosterone some, but also lowered my estrogen some because there's not as much for aromatase to work with.
tbf bro ostarine & s4 are known to be some of the best sarms to run alone
@@nignog1737 that makes sense
What's superior for minimal sides: SARM/SERM or test base/SARM?
Eclomiphene
I do both
Trenbolone Acetate
What if it’s a cardarine and ostarine only cycle
Honestly that’s all I’ve ran and I’ve had great results. I only plan on being absolutely cut. I’m about 6ft 190 and look absolutely stellar at 14% body fat. Ran two cycles recently and I have been in the gym for about 2 years. No regrets or sides here. Did have small chest pain on my first cycle but nothing since. Sleep is an issue too but it’s nothing melatonin or my girl can’t help.
Cardarine isn't a SARM, it doesn't have anabolic effects or androgenic side effects.
Ostarine arguably the LEAST suppressive of all SARMs on the market. Less than 30mg/day and less than 6 weeks cycle you shouldn't need PCT. Longer than that you should have PCT on hand
@@zeksplaylists5087any update on this? I’m about to run my first sarms cycle, similar build to yours
I've been watching videos on peptides and sarms for a year now and still feel like i haven't learned enough to take it. 😂. Glad I'm atill enjoying my workouts and the lean protein I'm eating. Might stack enclomiphene and ibutamoren, btw.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you have a test base but don't intend to stay on exogenous test forever, then at some point you are going to experience this no matter what, right?
You take a serm for pct to kickstart your natural test production
Link to the full vid?
bro did you ever find the vid. I gave up
What about when youre taking Cistanche and tonkat ali every day
I have the same exact question.. I was planning on taking Doublewood Lj100 2-3 times a day while on a sarm. I need to know if that’s good enough
I am on the 5th week cycle of MK2866, 4 weeks 20mg, now I am only taking 10mg. I am also taking SR9009, definitely helped me to loose weight and my power went up. The fat percentage dropped. My muscles are fuller. On the other hand I have bran dog and constantly feeling exhausted. Although the training is going very well once I get going and feeling strong. I am not doing lot’s of gym workouts, maybe twice a week which is a full body workout. I run and cycling as well. I always struggle with exhaustion due to my thyroid issues.
Tomorrow I am going to the doctors and doing a full blood work. Hopefully everything is a fine.
If you are interested in I will let you know about my results.
What were your results?
@@nicholaskrim1148 don’t know yet, I am going back to my doctor on Saturday. Something is definitely out of whack. I am so fatigued, sore , no strength. Just tired every day.
@@gabrieltimar3028 RESULTS?
@@ashmac4732 hey mate, the result is bad. My testosterone has dropped completely.
Although I feel ok, still doing my workouts but I am going to see a proper doctor next week.
I need something which helps me to stimulate my testosterone.
Update?
Cardarine and Test is amazing. I do it for months at a time. Ripped at 6% and still rock hard at 54
Cardarine is not a sarm 👍🏻
Had my cicle done, lgd, good results, had no problems with low T symptons, just for the first week after I stoped my 8 week cycle I was a bit tired during the day, but nothing major, no pct done
Doing the same, not noticing any real suppression
I’m doing the same.
Questions,
how many mg’s of LGD did you take a day?
Did you take every day?
Did you take any testosterone supplements? Did you take any andro’s / DHEA?
@@pokerbrandon I personally take 10mg a day cause the only reliable source I could find only had them in that dosage, and I don’t take anything else, no dhea/test sups, and I haven’t noticed any sides, I’m nearly 4 weeks in, dick still works, acne isn’t exasperated, sleep is good, I’m not even noticing too much bloat
João is this still the case? How are you now?
@@henrynader im fine, no low t symptoms at all
Does it make a difference if you use 10 mg Mk-677 and 10 mg Rad-140 on weekdays and nothing on the weekend?
So to recover is to stop taking it?
What base?
What's this base?
Clash of clans base
@@deadeye4500 ?
Question, I am 52, no steroid abuse through life, hard training, fit, been prescribed trt gel for last 6 years, now called into endocrinology as blood count too high, anyone had similar issues
Donating your blood
Someone send me a man like Derek.
Cant you just take pct to fix everything again
I’m currently getting fkd by it and I’ve only done like a month
mk677 mi kanka noldu anlatirmisin
3 months? You are crazy bro
Is there any difference between using enclo or nolva as a base? Or is it just a different version of the same thing and should be fine to introduce maybe around week 6?
Clomid, would work. Would add week 4-5
@@bryantc2899 And then the SERM (nolva, clomid,..) as a PCT aswell? Or only during the SARM cycle itself?
@@Nawtion nolva as a pct. Make sure u take the right mgs, and time length during your pct
Does the same happen when taking tongkat ali? What cycles would you recommend?
tongkat gives high testosterone effects but doesn't actually produce more testosterone
I used 4-andro as a base and ended up getting those side effects by week 2 so idk.
If you used your base before 2 weeks in you had high estrogen sides thats why lmfao. Thats why you wait until youre already suppressed and have low shbg to use a base if youre coming from natty status.
4 Andro cream works well and no major side effects as far as my body functioning correctly. If I get to emotional I use dim after the cycle. I was completely out of shape and used sarms to get back into working physical condition, they have been effective. Strength over vanity should be a person's priority.
is that this gear cream im seeing? what is a test base like whats the science behind rhe precaution taking place?
@@jefftruslow2ndchannel Iml super 4 Andro cream on cycle that will convert into estrogen so you will be able to sexually function, because sarms do not convert into estrogen. They will shut down your natural production of testosterone, but I think all you need for a pct is dim, D3, and ashwagandha. I think clomiphene and the other compounds are too harsh. Always remember that these people are drug rep's trying to sell you things.
@@jefftruslow2ndchannel i also saw the gear cream and I just ordered rad140 and mk677 to use as pct, starting my cycle this week. Just trying to figure out if I need to invest in a base or test base to help with side effects and such.
How’s your cycle been? It says you commented 3 days ago, hoping you get this. As someone who is taking Sarms, what would you say to someone who is just about to start their first cycle?
@@xecial4174 is mk77 a pct? im thinking of doing ostarine as a first time user. would it be better to do the mk677 with the ostarine or after?
On second cycle. Currently on week 8 and perfect blood work. Take enclo to support test while on cycle and take many supplements to keep organs in check then take a pct after and you will be golden
So if i only do a 4 week cycle i can avoid these problems?
Good luck on the comedown… T levels will crumble once you hop off
if you gonna do it without test, run it with enclomiphene, properly dialed in you wont get supression
can I use hcg to induce the natural production during the cycle then?
yes you can however only use it halfway through your cycle and with a AI like clomid or nolvadex for double benefits, use it at the start of the cycle and youre body with get diminishing returns from it
What base should u use
What’s a good base besides testosterone??? Preferably orally
I want to do a ostarine/mk677 cycle for 7 weeks,it will be my first ever cycle what do you guys think,is it worth it?
Yes
Most crap he is saying here is bullshit. Just don't exceed 30mg and you're good, if you're a beginner go for 5-10mg it literally has no side effects. The side effects Derek's is talking about are caused by an over used of the substance like 60mg per day and they're probably rad or other less safe variety of SARMs.
The best SARMs in my opinion are Cardarine and Ostarine and they both go well together as stack.
Best Sarm cycle I had was RAD 140 with enclomiphene 6.25mg every day. Felt fing insane and no low t symptoms
did u take enclo from day 1, or after a certain amount of time?
@@brennanvallier2302 I started day one through, continued two weeks after i stopped the RAD. I should've gotten bloodwork done but I had zero ED zero negative sides and felt unstoppable.
@@everett8603 how long was your cycle?
@@brennanvallier2302 8 weeks
^ This, please don't think you need to take testosterone with sarms enclo works wonders and get you're bloods!
SARM-Only cycles basically gave me a baby version of tren brain. Ran 400mg Test Cyp and was a happy go-lucky confident and calm guy.
What's tren brain?
@@starduster7angry
What's a base?
I took mk 677 at 12.5 mg eod in feb 2022 for only 3 weeks and stopped because of the insane hunger, within weeks i lost strength on all my lifts i got brain fog,erection problems, insulin resistance, testicle shrinkage, lowered sex drive, depression, anxiety, sleep problems the list goes on. I was 54 at the time and im 55 now so just over a year ago,from the research i done it wasnt supposed to shut me down and it hasn’t completely,i think it has put me in the andropause because of the age im at. Could i still reverse it with a pct like clomid at this late stage or is it testosterone replacement therapy for me,any advice greatly appreciated.
I started mine exactly when you started, I've been shut down for over a year, no pct/enclo/trt/supplement has helped me recover
it's completely gone
@@nickyjames1985 from MK677? A growth hormone secretagogue?
@@Nawtion Late reply but that should NOT be happening off of MK. Whatever this guy bought was definitely something else sold as MK.
More sarms > less test > more trt > more gains
Guys it’s an infinite muscle glitch
Not if you pulse and rotate. This is only the case with consistent daily usage, which is completely unnecessary and not worth the sides IMO.
Never had a problem with it
What to use as a base? Instead of test
Its true somehow I bounced back to normal but man did I have some rough days.
what about rad140? it isnt supposed to be designed to replace testosterone injections?
So then what do I do
Use 4-andro cream ironmaglabs
So then what do I do ?
would taking a testosterone boosting supplement help during the cycle?
Probably. Depends what you are taking. Ostarine is barely if it is even suppressive. Ligandrol and Testolone, you need it. Most suppressive, but also most effective SARMs
Prolly, but tbh I find running a for say rad 140 at 5 mg a day for first week and then increasing to 10-15 mg the week after that and then last 4 weeks- 15-25mg I’ve never gone over 20 mg per day on rad-140 and I felt great no having a base, pretty decent gains too. Broke my arm in 2020 so ever since then ive too my ran 2-3 cycles with just sarms. But I kept my dosages low. Heard of people taking 30 mg a day off the rip that’s crazy
did you do pct?
"Doesnt need to be a Test base..."
What other base is there?
Dbal
Is Sarm + encolophene ( serm ) a good idea?
@@IsNull0rEmpty I am on a osta cycle stacked with mk677 should i start the encolo right away or wait for a few weeks?
Could you use PCT as a substitute for finishing out your cycle???
Yes, you're supposed to pct for 4 weeks after Sarms cycle. Everyone is different, some people feel nothing.
Just run serm together and you probably won't even need to pct.
Thx guys
@@FesIRL is there anything specific one would take for PCT?
@@FixableHQ Nolvadex or Clomiphene
I am glad that so many people are hitting the gym but the kind of supplements people are taking is kind of scary . I am completely natty and don’t go on this social media shit to find validation. I once heard bill maher’s statement and that was exercise has no downside . Exercise to keep yourself fit not get validation.
Does a Test+SARMs stack pros outweigh the cons? Or are you better off with just test?
Or just take a small dose, like the one used in clinical research. So instead of 10mg of LGD, just do 1mg a day, maybe 2.5 (and don't go for 8 weeks, just go for 3-6 weeks). Gains will be far more modest, but it is safe, and you can run the cycle once a year or so with no side effects whatsoever, just a slight (side-effect-free) boost to natural gains.
I like your theory, I’m 16 and bout to hop on 677. I don’t think I’d do a real sarm anytime soon because I don’t wanna loose my natural test card. But I could possibly see me doing your theory. It would completely stop my natural test tho right?
@@ighthen9495 oh man, do NOT use any hormone-altering substances at your age. The problem is if you use now, you may be on gear for 6-8 weeks, but then your natural test is reduced for 6 months. Those could be 6 months when you wwre supposed to get an inch or two taller, but you won't because you'll have the testosterone levels of a preteen girl. Alternatively, if you stay on SARMs or test for long enough for that to not be an issue, your natural test production will shut off permanently. The best thing you can do is work out consistently, get a lot of sleep, and eat well (and eat big, if you want to get big). SARMs are for when you're well past your natural growth spurts and your brain and body have stopped growing, e.g. 28 years old if not older. And if you work out well at this age, and stay consistent, you'll never even need PEDs anyways. (disclaimer: I'm not a doctor. If you could get More Plates More Dates guy to answer, that'd be better--and a medical doctor who knows a lot about steroids would be best).
@@ighthen9495 but once you're 28 or so, yeah, go wild and do SARMs in extremely light doses, best way to do them.
@@aarr8936 thanks for the advice. If I only took 10mg on like a 2 month cycle and then hopped off, would my test get low like that? Probably my biggest thing holding me back because it would be scary if I could grow two more inches and never did. Can you tell me a bit of the side effects you experienced, I always like to hear another persons experience even though I’ve heard 100s
@@ighthen9495 I haven't read any literature on MK-677. It appears to act on growth hormone though--I would avoid that SARM like the plague, it may affect your growth. I did LGD-4033 at age 29, 1mg daily for 6 weeks, then like a year later 2.5mg daily 6 weeks, because these are doses close to what is tested in the academic literature. Noticed some side effects in first cycle, none in second. But it definitely messed with my libido for about a month after each cycle. But side effects were limited bc the doses were so small. Helped a bit with muscular endurance though (I was doing it for mma, not boduybuilding or lifting). Haven't done any other cycles in 2 years, might do a bit more though at some point (maybe in August). Should only start using SARMs when all your fitness routines and sleep schedule are really dialed in and consistent for a long time though. You really, really don't need SARMs at your age, you just need to get more sleep, work out more consistently, and stretch. Also do homework and do good in class--I guarantee you intellect, education, being cultured, and having a good job are all more attractive qualities to women than really big muscles (and having both is easy and even better). You can do math homework and do like 5 squats or pushups after every problem so the time is extra productive!
Great. Just bought a bottle and now this smh
So how is a person supposed to make gains if only sarms are available. How do you boost test or get test? Jesus this is worse than school.
It's always one more thing. Oh by the way, you need to do this, too. And so on.
Could I use LGD 3033 with Enclomephine. My plan would be to use the Enclomephine every 3 days and the LGD every second day. I’ve never used any performance enhancers so just wanting to triple check.
What if they reduce or space the doses? How about using clomid for, say, three months and then rest one month?
You think that gear cream would be sufficient for a base?
I'm on week 8 of rad 140 only, and don't have any low t symptoms, maybe I'm just lucky or maybe it doesn't affect everyone the same
As long as you are doing a low dose and staying at 8 weeks you should be fine
@@mustang8206 Im doing 10mg/day, 8 weeks soon , do i need any pct or ? ill get my blood done again after cycle
@@rilslav7203 The first time I tried Rad140, I only took 5mg/day as I was being extremely cautious. Did it for 8 weeks and had no issues during it or afterward. 9 months later, I tried it again, but upped to 10mg/day. I did miss a day occasionally throughout the 10 week period I took, but again no issues. No PCT whatsoever.
@@Sanity1234 Great to know im hella cautious aswell, i missed a day aswell but continued normally. Thanks for answering ill do a blood afterwards anyways, btw have you experienced ball pain, not pain pain but like mild discomfort while on cycle
were ypu stronger?
I did rad 140 3 years ago 30 mg I was totally fine afterwards my levels are normal of course there’s slight aggression but it’s light
The consensus im getting is it depend on the person and their natural test, you and myself are one of the lucky ones who have good genetics to recover.
@@jordan5384 exactly I had other people take it too and they are fine living their life but yes genetics is a key thing plus with the 30mg rad I stacked Osterine too no issues take the pct and vibe
@@igpxmaster What PCT did you take after? 🤔
@@TrueCody arimestage 50
@@igpxmaster Same here I took sublingual liquid RAD140 for 8 weeks and my dick was still working fine even after the entire cycle, no loss of libido I could still get hard and all. Ran 0 PCT and did no bloods before and after, say what you will. Might have gotten lethargic long after tho after it was over because I was sleeping a whole lot but I was also working a 12 hour shift weekend job at the time, so hard to tell.
Running injectable RAD140 now for 8 weeks and then Ostarine for the next 8, hoping I do have good genes for fighting suppression and my junk will still work…
lol exactly what occurred.
Taking what?
@ٴ specifically the sour ones
gorilla mind
Like a serm base?
Can you take a sarm while taking enclo daily?
Thank god someone stating facts
What about 50/100 mg dhea x day as a base?
So I started lgd 4033 6 days ago and got ahold of some test cyp. Should I just stop taking lgd and do 500 test weekly for 10 weeks or do a low dose of test and stick on the lgd since I already started it?
keep taking 4033 and test you can drop test to about 170mg to 200mg for 4033 take 5mg you will feel like beast
What happens if you just stop before getting the symptoms
Would epiandrosterone be a good base for a sarms cycle,
Just my anecdotal experience of a 12-week cycle:
I went on a LGD 4033 only cycle, starting with .25 mL of liquid vial for 8 weeks. I finished off with 4 weeks left, increasing the dosage to .50 mL.
At I believe it was the 5th week mark I supplemented Ashwaganda KM-66, 1000 mg a day. During this time my macro intake excluded as much carbs as possible.
Week 7 I bought plant and animal based test boosters, and supplemented that with Ashwaganda KM-66, along with my daily LGD intake.
I was extremely exhausted throughout the day in my first 4-5 weeks, but I afterwards I either got accustomed to it, or the Ashwaganda was helping. I’m unsure about the biochemistry of how it would work.
During the entire cycle, I never noticed penile dysfunction, low labido, but I had no doubt my T levels were messed up due to how tired I felt throughout the day even though I would be getting 7-9 hours of sleep.
My last 2 weeks of the cycle, I noticed a plateau and even to an extent a retrograde in my performance. I felt weaker than I did before- and that was a clear sign for me to stop.
I was also sometimes inconsistent with intake, due to my commitment in weekend military training in the reserves, I would either Mohave to miss my LGD intake or not be able to workout at least 1 weekend a month.
I’d appreciate anyone’s input into my experience, since I’d like to learn what I could’ve done better or if my plan with natural T booster supplementation was working:
You got some bunk lgd bro
What video is this clip from
Yes week 4 and i feel like shit. Do your research guys. I watched a fee videos and jumped on them thinking they are safe. I think im going through withdrawl almost feels like opoid withdrawl not taking them.
Damn that’s fucked up , hope u get better brah💪🏼
dam wow which sarm did you take?
Yeah im interested to know which you took and how much for how long. :D I had 0 sideeffects on an 8week cycle.
@@RonnyCoalman thanks for sharing. what did you take?
@@RonnyCoalman neg my guy. I want to take ostarine as a first cycle but dont want any sides. what's your take
What would suggest for a base then?
Is encomiphene enough
Could you use dbol as a test base for Sarms?
I guess so since it does convert in estro, idk what to dosing protocol would be tho
yes
I've never noticed any negative side effects from it....that being said, just do test
12.5 mg Enclomiphene (not clomid) the whole cycle and 2 wks after.
Well I just started an ostarine only cycle. I plan on stopping week 6.. and then taking natural OTC test booster.. 3 days in.. should I stop? Lol
OTC test booster won't do shit. You need proper PCT for a SARMs cycle.
For a 6 week cycle on ostarine ONLY, you don't need a PCT assuming you're taking less than 30mg/day. A PCT should always be on hand for if/when you increase the dosage, but ostarine is not a very suppressive SARM to begin with.
@@rustysausage69 it was actually very suppressive on my body with major side effects at 15mg a week. Didn't need a pct because I stopped during the second week because the side effects were so bad. Got blood work and my levels went back up to normal range
did you feel strong atleast? any mental benefits or what?
@@Dylan-nh9ev Thats actually crazy
(edit) Hope it didn't mess you up too long term from that. Good info to have though. What were you experiencing?
After the SARMS cycle is finished and the user faces these side effects, wouldn't that cause them to resort to using gear as well as HGH?
so what is the idea to prevent this? putting pct last week?
You could just do a lower dose.
I did rad 140 8 week cycle at 10mg each day then ran pct for 2 weeks and I was fine
@@Bigbro123r5 which pct did you take ?
What about for women?
What would you take to combat that?