Armenia was an independent nation rather than a Province or a client state. And really important in Rome's ongoing war with the Parthians. So they'd want to make sure to give special recognition
@@richardscanlan3167 Armeni exists before rome, look todo assyrians tablets they call armenia as Armanum , ifyou know history even there was no greece, rome that time. Urartu state was an armenian state, also there is tens of armenian kingdom around the anatolia ( which was controling the anatolia) . Also Herakles was an armenian.
That was a nod to Armenia because of Cold War tensions with Turkey. This film is wonderful, but it's very much Cold War propaganda, to say hey NATO is Pax Americana
@@silviasantos4215 Silvia..these British Actors give homage to the Great Roman Empire..If you are Italian then I respect your comment..if not, you are just a critic..Viva Italia
This is a movie, don't forget that it's primary role is to entertain. And if that means sacrificing an announcer for some comedic value then in the name of Kaesar let it be.
To be fair. The Romans had a very rich and prosperous province called Africa centered around the former Tunisian and coastal Libyan parts of coastal north Africa. But the Roman governors were not necessarily Sub Saharan black. Nor the governors of Judea necessarily Jewish for that matter. Poetic license.
Biggest mistake Gladiator made was to have Commodus murder his father. No such thing happened as Marcus went on to write his Meditations and remained in Rome during a plague that depopulated the city. Shame on you writers who distort history when you have the facts at hand.
Actually this was an exceptionally violent offensive against the Germans and Marcus Aurelius was not as pacifically detached from it all as this film would have us believe. Also his Meditations if he composed them here were of far greater literary worth and merit than the cliches he is made to ponder when alone in his chamber in the fortress. If his daughter bore such back to Rome she was carrying nothing memorable or marvellous at all and the tone was doctored presumably for audiences who knew more of the Bible and Aesops Fables than the texts of Stoicism.
It's reminiscent not only of globalization talk today, but more particularly of the way a subset of the British establishment and the royals spoke of their Commonwealth back then, as a sort of spiritual continuation of empire on a more share and share alike basis. Some like the Queen still do. Every time I hear this I assume the writers were either echoing that or mocking it.
It was a very big deal to be a Roman citizen. St. Paul used his Roman citizenship to be beheaded with a sword instead of being put to death in some common way.
Added to that,he was sent to Rome,where he would be tried.While there,he was allowed to walk around the city - with an armed escort.He spent his time converting people to Christianity haha. He was ofc tried, after 2 yrs in captivity,and found guilty.He was decapitated, as you point out so spared the slow death of crucifixion.
@antoninus138 Aurelius feared that if he didn't there would be a civil war, His son also tried to "appear like he had changed" in order to deceive his father so he would choose him as successor.
it is ashame ceaser life was short he did promised to bring the golden age back to rome an he did bring peace to rome but his closes friends who he greeted them as brothers stabbed him to death
George tom that was Marcus Aurelius. Julius Caesar died centuries before, but Roman emperors continued to use his name because he was so popular with common people and the legions.
@@1Heirborn actually it had more to do with the fact his nephew and heir Octavian adopted his name. As he was the first emperor,it stands to reason the name stuck.
After seeing this in the cinema I went home and drew all the banners gathered around the Emperor. I think it is a very striking scene but the script is trivialising and mediocre.
It's still better than Gladiator, a poor remake. But you're right the script is a bit stiff and let's down what us otherwise a beautifully made film. The sets and costuming has no comparison in accurately representing the period of late 2nd Century CE
Marcus Aurelius persecuted Christians how he numbered Timonides as one of them in his close company is a mysterious inconsistency. Then again the role that Christianity had in destroying the Roman Empire is never really stressed in this film We see a Christian device on Timonides clothing and that is all.
What’s with all the foreign Proconsuls? Wasn’t a Proconsul a former Consul? So only would have been Romans. But a lot of these guys look like foreign leaders. What gives?
The rule changed after the Republic ended. Under Augustus, proconsuls could be appointed by the senate or the emperor, whether they had been former consuls or not.
There events in history that if they had gone one way instead of another the whole of human history would have been changed ... the murder of Marcus Aurelius and the burning of the Great Library of Alexandria were two such moments in history
xadam2dudex where exactly and by who is it recorded that he was murdered????? The movie Gladiator isn't factual dumbass. Aurelius died of natural causes,and even if he had been murdered he had already groomed Commodus for the throne, so what exactly do you think him living another few years would have achieved that would have had such a colossal effect on history??????
Octavian Caesar Hibernicus you fucking idiot it is historical fact that Romans used poison on a number of emperor including Marcus Aurelious ... and this is not Gladiator
xadam2dudex zoooom, that was my comment going over your stupid head. Reread and answer how his death somehow changed the course of human history and who's the ancient Roman writer who recorded him being poisoned??? Dumbass.
News to me,that Marcus Aurelius was poisoned.AFAIK he died of natural causes while on campaign. Although your point of emperors being poisoned holds true.For example Claudius was poisoned with mushrooms to hasten his death.And there would have been plenty more.
it was a common practice in the Roman court to poison not just the emperor but also his family and other rivals... many times the poisoning was done by order of the emperor...Marcus Aurelius's health took a sudden downturn in the spring of 180 AD before the new round of campaigns were to start ...it is rumored that his son and eventual successor, Commodus, who was made consul and co-emperor with his father at age 15 was behind the death of his father ..he had no stomach for war since he was young and more attracted to high and easy living, Commodus abandoned his father’s scheme, to bring the barbarians in as new provinces, and made peace with the barbarians
my favorite scene from this movie......gives you a feel of how vast the Roman Empire really was....
*Marcus Aurelius (to every chariot passing by)* : Hello there.
*Everyone in a chariot* : Emperor Kenobi!
Watched this film only recently! Totally epic. Love that Armenia gets some special recognition.
Armenia was an independent nation rather than a Province or a client state. And really important in Rome's ongoing war with the Parthians. So they'd want to make sure to give special recognition
@@charleslopez1596 yes.They were essentially a buffer state v Parthian aggression.And later v the Sassanids.
@@richardscanlan3167 Armeni exists before rome, look todo assyrians tablets they call armenia as Armanum , ifyou know history even there was no greece, rome that time. Urartu state was an armenian state, also there is tens of armenian kingdom around the anatolia ( which was controling the anatolia) . Also Herakles was an armenian.
That was a nod to Armenia because of Cold War tensions with Turkey. This film is wonderful, but it's very much Cold War propaganda, to say hey NATO is Pax Americana
i love how they gave the Roman salute
ave caesar
Love it when he shrugs his shoulders when Brittania present themselves
That's actually "Pertinax", the successor after the fall of Commodus
AND THE BRITISH ACTORS MADE THIS WONDERFUL FILM ,,,, NOT SO THE ITALIAN ACTORS ,,,,, EXCEPT SOFIA
@@silviasantos4215 Silvia..these British Actors give homage to the Great Roman Empire..If you are Italian then I respect your comment..if not, you are just a critic..Viva Italia
@@richtersiegfried61 Wrong - the Pertinax you refer to was the Praetorian Prefect,not the Governor of Brittania.
Hail Obi-won!
Sir Alec Guinness, Great Actor
I love the costumes, they just don't put this much effort into movies anymore.
Seriously, there should be a host to announce the name and title of all those who entered...
This is a movie, don't forget that it's primary role is to entertain. And if that means sacrificing an announcer for some comedic value then in the name of Kaesar let it be.
He made a remarkable interpretation in the bridge over the kwai river. I really enjoyed that movie
Wow! This looks like an amazing movie
It is, watch it if you can.
1:03
Aurelius: "Africa"
African with a name: "Am I a joke to you?"
Seriously? This movie is over 50 years old. The writers, directors, producers and actors are mostly dead. Let that sink in for a minute.
And that African looks very sub-saharan to me.
@Sky Captain Imagining calling a commentor an SJW because they made a joke.. imagine being that pathetic.
@Sky Captain I don't think Rome ruled Ethiopia.
To be fair. The Romans had a very rich and prosperous province called Africa centered around the former Tunisian and coastal Libyan parts of coastal north Africa. But the Roman governors were not necessarily Sub Saharan black. Nor the governors of Judea necessarily Jewish for that matter. Poetic license.
Love all the costumes.
One interesting guff in this clip is that the proconsul of Judaea, called Severus -- a Roman rank and a Roman name -- comes dressed like a Persian.
ahah yeah, I enjoy this movie, but I have always found hilarious that they thought that roman governors were some kind of local tribe-leader.
He should say the magic words HELLO THERE!
Beautiful
Biggest mistake Gladiator made was to have Commodus murder his father. No such thing happened as Marcus went on to write his Meditations and remained in Rome during a plague that depopulated the city. Shame on you writers who distort history when you have the facts at hand.
Gladiator is a bad remake of R &F
All I’m thinking is when he’s making his speech is what kind of surround sound speakers they had in the days of Rome
1.04
So his name his title and his kingdom is called "Africa".
Wow
i did not know that Obi Wan was an Emperor Of Rome
Marcus Aurelius: May the Force be with all yours chariots !!!
Alec Guiness looks more like the real Marcus.
One World. One Humanity. ONE FAMILY.
Amen.
No, I'm still downloading the second part of the movie through Shareaza.
time flies by,doesn't it
The emperor of Rome. The most powerful man in the world, and the most fragile.
Actually this was an exceptionally violent offensive against the Germans and Marcus Aurelius was not as pacifically detached from it all as this film would have us believe. Also his Meditations if he composed them here were of far greater literary worth and merit than the cliches he is made to ponder when alone in his chamber in the fortress. If his daughter bore such back to Rome she was carrying nothing memorable or marvellous at all and the tone was doctored presumably for audiences who knew more of the Bible and Aesops Fables than the texts of Stoicism.
It's reminiscent not only of globalization talk today, but more particularly of the way a subset of the British establishment and the royals spoke of their Commonwealth back then, as a sort of spiritual continuation of empire on a more share and share alike basis. Some like the Queen still do. Every time I hear this I assume the writers were either echoing that or mocking it.
roman senate, got to go down as the greatest speech ever written
this proves that Obi-Wan was the true Sith lord, who else could be the emperor but himself
Ah, now I know what he became after Vader had striked him down.....now the "more powerfull that you can ever imagine" makes sense.
It was a very big deal to be a Roman citizen. St. Paul used his Roman citizenship to be beheaded with a sword instead of being put to death in some common way.
Added to that,he was sent to Rome,where he would be tried.While there,he was allowed to walk around the city - with an armed escort.He spent his time converting people to Christianity haha.
He was ofc tried, after 2 yrs in captivity,and found guilty.He was decapitated, as you point out so spared the slow death of crucifixion.
They do this stuff in Fiji now.
👑
@antoninus138
Aurelius feared that if he didn't there would be a civil war, His son also tried to "appear like he had changed" in order to deceive his father so he would choose him as successor.
Storm Trooper.....Storm Trooper...Storm Trooper....yep.....yo...uh huh
Funny, the "Judeans" didn't use that symbol till the 1600's..
King of kings!
Emperors outrank kings ;)
Nothing to Spiffy ! Or was that a reference to the film of the same name?
it is ashame ceaser life was short he did promised to bring the golden age back to rome an he did bring peace to rome but his closes friends who he greeted them as brothers stabbed him to death
George tom that was Marcus Aurelius. Julius Caesar died centuries before, but Roman emperors continued to use his name because he was so popular with common people and the legions.
@@1Heirborn actually it had more to do with the fact his nephew and heir Octavian adopted his name.
As he was the first emperor,it stands to reason the name stuck.
So, the guy from Africa doesn't have a name?
This is my Jesus Christus.
They are nothing without the "voice" speaking in the ear.
Hi, From Fatih Sultan Mehmet
"Ahhh, yes.... AFRICA."
Still the standard response from most Americans.
Obi-Wan Kenobi !
Everything is simulated now .
Garbage .
After seeing this in the cinema I went home and drew all the banners gathered around the Emperor. I think it is a very striking scene but the script is trivialising and mediocre.
It's still better than Gladiator, a poor remake. But you're right the script is a bit stiff and let's down what us otherwise a beautifully made film. The sets and costuming has no comparison in accurately representing the period of late 2nd Century CE
Marcus Aurelius persecuted Christians how he numbered Timonides as one of them in his close company is a mysterious inconsistency. Then again the role that Christianity had in destroying the Roman Empire is never really stressed in this film We see a Christian device on Timonides clothing and that is all.
I want be rome
What’s with all the foreign Proconsuls? Wasn’t a Proconsul a former Consul? So only would have been Romans. But a lot of these guys look like foreign leaders. What gives?
The rule changed after the Republic ended. Under Augustus, proconsuls could be appointed by the senate or the emperor, whether they had been former consuls or not.
EQUALITY AND RACE MIXING KILLED ROME
Idiot, in what century do you live. Shut up and get back on the plantation hillybilly inbred
There events in history that if they had gone one way instead of another the whole of human history would have been changed ... the murder of Marcus Aurelius and the burning of the Great Library of Alexandria were two such moments in history
xadam2dudex where exactly and by who is it recorded that he was murdered????? The movie Gladiator isn't factual dumbass. Aurelius died of natural causes,and even if he had been murdered he had already groomed Commodus for the throne, so what exactly do you think him living another few years would have achieved that would have had such a colossal effect on history??????
Octavian Caesar Hibernicus you fucking idiot it is historical fact that Romans used poison on a number of emperor including Marcus Aurelious ... and this is not Gladiator
xadam2dudex zoooom, that was my comment going over your stupid head. Reread and answer how his death somehow changed the course of human history and who's the ancient Roman writer who recorded him being poisoned??? Dumbass.
News to me,that Marcus Aurelius was poisoned.AFAIK he died of natural causes while on campaign.
Although your point of emperors being poisoned holds true.For example Claudius was poisoned with mushrooms to hasten his death.And there would have been plenty more.
it was a common practice in the Roman court to poison not just the emperor but also his family and other rivals... many times the poisoning was done by order of the emperor...Marcus Aurelius's health took a sudden downturn in the spring of 180 AD before the new round of campaigns were to start ...it is rumored that his son and eventual successor, Commodus, who was made consul and co-emperor with his father at age 15 was behind the death of his father ..he had no stomach for war since he was young and more attracted to high and easy living, Commodus abandoned his father’s scheme, to bring the barbarians in as new provinces, and made peace with the barbarians