The under-cables. They are for maintaining the weight on the cab and counterweight the same as the lift moves up the shaft. All skyscraper lifts need this, or the motor will have very uneven load on either the cab side compared or the counterweight side when the lift is at terminal floors.
What’s also interesting is some MX32 motors only have a single VF drive while others like the ones in your video have two of them on each motor! Probably depends on the power and speed configuration the customer chooses to go with! :)
MX32 can come with different brands of VF drive. I have seen them with Toshiba and ABB. The ABB ones need 2 drives linked together. Maybe other brands can do it with just 1 drive.
In norway we have a kone MX100 in one of our tallest towers. I've sadly never ridden it since its owned by a cable manufacturer, but oh boy id love to see that motor room!!!
MX32 is two MX20+ joined together. It has the same speed as an MX20+ but twice the power. MX20+ goes 3 m/s in 2:1, and would theoretically go 6 m/s in 1:1, but the capacity would be too low to be useful (I don't think there would be any use for a 6 m/s lift with 600kg capacity). So having having two motors increases the capacity, but is still the same basic motor, which is a genius idea by Kone, I have never known any other lift company to do this.
@@benolifts I am talking about the seven segment displays on the logic board itself. The middle two displays show the current floor ID, and the two to the right show the new floor (call), so what would happen with 3 digit floors?
Hi Beno! Do you ever plan on revisiting Budapest one day? If you do I have some good lift recommendations. For example, a 1999 Thysen lift with a creepy chime. Also, there are a few trams and busses you might have missed.
Roses are red Violets are blue Ben got into the skyscraper As security was doing a poo Security came out the toilet But little did he know That Ben was entering calls in the cabinet The lift moved and security went "oh no!" Security came up looking. Ben saw the lift move and knew he must be quick. He saw security come to the top floor. "lets get away from this prick" But Ben couldn't leave yet. He hadn't surfed the lift. So he jumped on top it. And oh boy was it swift. Ben enjoyed his lift surf. And decided it was time to go. He had surfed one of London's tallest But security was not to know!
Do you mean LCEACU? ACU is audio control unit. This is set by 3-3 where you can chose the message for each floor. 3-4 sets what should be announced. 3-5 sets the language. 3-6 sets the dual language. There are many versions of LCEACU. The basic version has 78 messages. The more complex ones have 255 messages in 37 languages.
Because it is MX32 (NMX era updated version). It goes 6 m/s at 1200kg. You aren't going to have that as MRL. I feel that the modern day 3 m/s at 1000kg MRLs that you now get (MX20+ and 5500) are pushing the limits of what is possible. There is no chance of a 6 m/s MRL.
The motor windings operates at 25hz. The VF drive is at pulsing 10,000hz into the windings. These frequencies are far too low to be a problem, even when at high power.
Just because you double the motors does not mean double the power, exactly, due to inefficiencies in tandem driving. At least, what I think explains that.
The MX numbers don't really make much sense. MX 40 should be called MX50. I estimate it does something around 1200kg at 8.5 m/s, 1600kg at 6 m/s, 2500kg at 4 m/s. And in 2:1 this would be 5000kg at 2 m/s. So MX50 is a better name. But after the NMX updates apparently it can now go a speed of 10 m/s (probably at 800 to 1000kg) So it should now be renamed NMX55 or NMX60. Kone really seem to be thrashing their motors a lot harder nowadays. I think the motors were more reliable than Kone expected, so they then thought they could push them harder to get more out of them.
The ride quality is virtually unmatched by almost every lift company, KONE have really surpassed industry standards
I am really enjoying your videos of different lifts, motors, power, tractions and the detail you give out about lifts.
These lifts are really next level! Absolutely epic!
Could you make a playlist called motors pls.
Could you show more of lift lighting? - shaft lights and in car lights.
What is the strange thing attached to the counterweight at 11:35 ?
The under-cables. They are for maintaining the weight on the cab and counterweight the same as the lift moves up the shaft. All skyscraper lifts need this, or the motor will have very uneven load on either the cab side compared or the counterweight side when the lift is at terminal floors.
Yessss! This finally got uploaded!
Excellent video Beno, is this bulding what we saw earlier with you penthouse?
I bet. He said that he saw the motor room for that lift.
Or it could be a completely different skyscraper!
@@benolifts bruh what
@@qeelevators2960 You do realize I don't just have one skyscraper to play in and call my home. I have several.
@@benolifts you are sometimes confusing
What’s also interesting is some MX32 motors only have a single VF drive while others like the ones in your video have two of them on each motor! Probably depends on the power and speed configuration the customer chooses to go with! :)
MX32 can come with different brands of VF drive. I have seen them with Toshiba and ABB. The ABB ones need 2 drives linked together. Maybe other brands can do it with just 1 drive.
We have a unit in the Antwerp Harbour that has a 5 tonnes capacity at 1M/S, MX32 with a single V3F25 KONE drive.
In norway we have a kone MX100 in one of our tallest towers. I've sadly never ridden it since its owned by a cable manufacturer, but oh boy id love to see that motor room!!!
Wooowww! The interior is so posh and my... that is a fast lift.
Those really are absolute beasts.
Can you make that with MX 40 and MX 100
ok
Beno Can You Try To Make A Video Of The MX80 Or MX100?
Not heard of a MX80
@@benolifts oh ok That's an even more powerful one (the mx 80&100)
There is original series... MX06 MX10 MX20L MX20
2000s series... MX05 MX06 MX10 MX10(16) MX20 MX18 MX32 MX40 MX100
New series... NMX05 NMX07 NMX11 (N)MX14 MX20+ NMX18 MX32+ MX40+ MX100
There isn't a MX80
@@benolifts Oh Now I Get It, I'm Dutch, And The MX80 Only Exists In The Netherlands!
@@benolifts Where's the MX100+?
How come you got into the motor room but couldn't surf the lift for the upper half? Is the upper half offices?
Not only does it go 6 m/s and hold 1200 kg BUT ALSO IN 1:1 CABLE CONFIG? That is super powerful!
MX32 is two MX20+ joined together. It has the same speed as an MX20+ but twice the power. MX20+ goes 3 m/s in 2:1, and would theoretically go 6 m/s in 1:1, but the capacity would be too low to be useful (I don't think there would be any use for a 6 m/s lift with 600kg capacity). So having having two motors increases the capacity, but is still the same basic motor, which is a genius idea by Kone, I have never known any other lift company to do this.
I wonder what the LCECPU/LCELOP would display for floors above 99 because it seems to only display 2 character floor IDs
LCE can show 3 characters on the indicator. On some indicators only 2 characters can be shown.
@@benolifts I am talking about the seven segment displays on the logic board itself. The middle two displays show the current floor ID, and the two to the right show the new floor (call), so what would happen with 3 digit floors?
I actually don't know
@@nelsonahlvik6650 maybe it would use hexadecimal?
BENO!!! Excellent videos! Did you know pop singer Prince died of an overdose in an Elevator? Lolz
That elevator where he died is now an Employees Elevator.
A ton of trams also use ABB DC pulsing and AC VF systems.
This is awesome!
Can't wait to see the MX100 detailed look.
10m/s?
And then the NMX 120
Hi Beno! Do you ever plan on revisiting Budapest one day? If you do I have some good lift recommendations. For example, a 1999 Thysen lift with a creepy chime. Also, there are a few trams and busses you might have missed.
What about Japan? They’ve got LOTS of Mitsubishis that have a DOOR CLOSE message
Even 1 lift has a DOOR OPENING message
do Detailed look at MX100 Ecodisc , beno
エコディスクだから出力が大きくなろうとなるべく薄型になるように開発されてるんでしょうけど...もう普通の高速エレベーターの巻上機の見た目ですね😂 三菱のもこんぐらいな感じがします。
私もそう思います。😅
Lift shaft dangles?
6 m/s dangle time!
Looks like it's time for 'zero-gravity' again...
It’s the screamer vf drive
I love KONE Moters
Hey Austin this is guys
Roses are red
I crashed in a ditch
6 meter a second ecodisc
Hey Austin this is guys
Expanded edition
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Ben got into the skyscraper
As security was doing a poo
Security came out the toilet
But little did he know
That Ben was entering calls in the cabinet
The lift moved and security went "oh no!"
Security came up looking.
Ben saw the lift move and knew he must be quick.
He saw security come to the top floor.
"lets get away from this prick"
But Ben couldn't leave yet.
He hadn't surfed the lift.
So he jumped on top it.
And oh boy was it swift.
Ben enjoyed his lift surf.
And decided it was time to go.
He had surfed one of London's tallest
But security was not to know!
@@benolifts That’s brilliant. Love that one 👍😂😂😂
@@benolifts Wikipedia: Beno (or BENObve or simply BENO) is the world's first best lift-surfing-poet-writer ever in Medbay. 😁👍
Hello Beno! What is an ACUM in a LCE?
Do you mean LCEACU? ACU is audio control unit. This is set by 3-3 where you can chose the message for each floor. 3-4 sets what should be announced. 3-5 sets the language. 3-6 sets the dual language.
There are many versions of LCEACU. The basic version has 78 messages. The more complex ones have 255 messages in 37 languages.
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There’s just one question why not lift shaft why a motor room.
Modded a lift?
Because it is MX32 (NMX era updated version). It goes 6 m/s at 1200kg. You aren't going to have that as MRL. I feel that the modern day 3 m/s at 1000kg MRLs that you now get (MX20+ and 5500) are pushing the limits of what is possible. There is no chance of a 6 m/s MRL.
BENO Are you being exposed to dangerous levels of Electromagnetic Radiation around this Elevator motors?
Perfectly safe.
The motor windings operates at 25hz. The VF drive is at pulsing 10,000hz into the windings. These frequencies are far too low to be a problem, even when at high power.
@@benolifts That's great! Thanx 4 the videos. There very interesting and fun to watch!
Hi
very very me scared floors to 0 floor
I think Kone need to hire a mathematician don’t they? Shouldn’t two MX18s joined make an MX36?😂
Just because you double the motors does not mean double the power, exactly, due to inefficiencies in tandem driving. At least, what I think explains that.
They should have called it mx36.. lol
The MX numbers don't really make much sense. MX 40 should be called MX50. I estimate it does something around 1200kg at 8.5 m/s, 1600kg at 6 m/s, 2500kg at 4 m/s. And in 2:1 this would be 5000kg at 2 m/s. So MX50 is a better name. But after the NMX updates apparently it can now go a speed of 10 m/s (probably at 800 to 1000kg) So it should now be renamed NMX55 or NMX60. Kone really seem to be thrashing their motors a lot harder nowadays. I think the motors were more reliable than Kone expected, so they then thought they could push them harder to get more out of them.
Hey beno love your videos :) I’m donating 25$ Canadian on gofundme