OC here I absolutely need the bike to excite me. I'm not just an A-B rider anymore. When I was commuting I didn't care, the ride was enough, but now that I don't commute 2 wheel life is about excitement and the bike is part of that.
Hey, I currently have a Z900, and I'm not too happy with it. It feels very underpowered and doesn't have any real hit in the power-band. I'm thinking about buying a CBR1000RR. Does the CBR feel a great deal more powerful, and does it have a top-end rush of power? I'm really wanting that thrill of power that the Z900 lacks. Also, is the CBR comfortable enough for a semi-long distance ride?
@@wedie2soon Yeah, the CBR1000RR does have a great deal more power, which i mainly feel at higher RPM's. I could only last up to 2 hours before i feel like dying lol. I currently dont have my CBR anymore, it was stolen and the thief totaled it. It was super fun while i had it.
Dude said he can’t be thrilled or excited while riding a 1000. Have people lost their minds? I had a 2017 fireblade and it was disgustingly fast. NO ONE needs 95mph in first gear. Though, then again, I have always disagreed with the big dude in the car so whatever 😂
Yeah but 2021 is light and feels like a 600cc. Is over kill but you have the power if you need it. Usually 600 would be plenty speed and perfect weight but again this 1000RR is light.
I picked this up yesterday in all black with quick shifter/auto blipper, carbon parts, Full akra exhaust and it’s been flashed and makes 191HP at the wheel. 2019 model, only done 2000 miles. Can’t wait to pick it up next week
It’s a more base model and you’ve ridden the next model that’s really the old 17 model. If you had ridden that model SP it would be closer to the RR-R SP
The 2021 cbr1000rr for the american market is the sc77. Meaning its a rebranded 2017-2019 model. The sc82 base model only shipped to asia and europe. We got screwed.
@@ChaseN194 Not quite, the non-sp rrr model is roughly 22-23k USD in the markets that it was introduced. They probably wanted to compete in the 15-16k bracket with the old model
@@k2t210 possibly but for the $20k price range the base model sc82 its honestly worth it as it is actually better than all other base model 1000cc sportbikes.
I have the 2018 fireblade….the very same model as this one with a quick shifter tail tidy and akrapovic slip on-it’s a beautiful bike to look at and ride and it’s LOUD with the slip on I actually couldn’t imagine how loud it would be with a full exhaust system😂I’m 5”9 with 30” inseam and can’t quite flat foot it but it’s very manageable I came from riding an r3 to the cbr and it’s very very manageable once you remember it can really bite if not respected 👍🏼
OC: For me that bike that bike sounds like a dream supersport. Smooth power, more upright - just me. I’ll probably get bored after a season or two because that lack of “character” but I could live with that 🤘
It is. The RR-R SP is technically a 2022 model but it was released before the regular version after the 17-21 body style was already in the market so you could say it’s last years model but it was still produced for the beginning of this year
This is the last gen fireblade which i think was sold from 2017-2020. The new base model one is the Cbr-1000rr-R and top spec Cbr-1000rr-R SP (The base model is the same bike but without the extra bits). Though the confusion may come from the fact that they still sell those old ones next to the new gen ones in the US. The old fireblades had a lot more comfort but wayyyy less power, because power has really not been the main point of the fireblade until the latest generation, it was the smoothness.
OC: Definitely want to be excited by a bike I'm gonna ride. Be it's styling or power delivery or comfort and ergonomics. Which is why I love my Daytona. Guess it's like a car. Walk out in the morning and you don't like the look of your car, you're not going to be excited to drive it.
You literally gave this bike the complete opposite review as you did on the 17' model (exciting vs bland, heavy vs light etc..) They're literally the same exact bike lol 🤣what gives?? I'm staring to think these bike reviews are B.S. and just a way to get views......
Hondas typically have loose chains when they’re new. I have a cb1000r and mine was super jerky when I first got it. The chain was super loose. After the shop tightened it up it it felt great. I’m thinking you’re has the same issue
You already reviewed this bike. The 2017-USA 2021 is the SC77. America didnt get the actual 2021 cbr1000. The rest of the world got a non-sp version of the RRR SP.
@@jayyxyyt definitely not, very powerful bike. I had some experience in liter bikes ( friend’s ones) from 15 years ago and I ride very safe. I would advice an SV650 ABS or a CBR650 ABS as a first bike. An R7 can be a good choice too. Starting with a 185 HP bike as a first bike is very dangerous, you can at your own risk.
Too powerful, torque control saved me many times, current config P5T3W3EB2. You can read about it online. No drops (yet). If I can go back in time I would’ve got the CBR650r instead of the CBR1000rr I just did my first oil change, I got the filter from Amazon actually(oem), it’s genuine honda that cost me 17$ I might buy a quick shifter just for fun. If you’re in the Austin TX area let me know, I’ll let you try it.
OC: I'm new at riding so i'm gonna say yes to being excited with the bike you are riding, but tbh i'm excited on any bike i ride so there that.. :p Buying a bike knowing its gonna mehh or buying one that you know you're gonna have a blast on every time you go to ride it, i think everyone is gonna choose option 2.
I like the look of this one more than the RR-R, but that one is definitely more exciting in terms of performance. Regardless, I'm never gonna come close to the limits of these bikes so this one would be more for me.
Idk about this bike any more. I absolutely love the size of the new CBRs but hate the electronic throttle valve and drive by wire. I might be forced to buy a used bike given that emissions regulations seems to have killed new bikes
@@CBRboy1717 Maybe you should take a look at Honda GLOBAL's website and see that the official 2019 model year was the last of the RR, just because in the US they stick a "2021" tag on a leftover motorcycle, doesn't make it a 2021 model.
OC: I haven't been able to test ride every bike I've owned so If a bike doesn't excite me, I usually don't keep it long or don't end up buying it. Different bikes/brands excite different people though.
Love your videos, I just wanted to throw this out. I recently bought a 2006 Yamaha FZ1. It has that horrible throttle lag, Yamaha actually shuts off the fuel, it’s like turning off the key every time it decelerates, then you accelerate there is a lag until the fuel comes back on. They do this for fuel economy. There is a simple fix at least for the FZ1- flash the ECU and get rid of that throttle lag, also, when I had it flashed I got 50% more power in the three lower gears. Sounds like Honda has put a lot of restrictions in the ECU. Just thought I’d mention this.
It has a quick shifter, and you can see the quick shifting rod is installed on the left foot gear shifter. However, you need to turn the quick shifter on using the electronic screen :) hope this helps! (I have a cbr1000rr 2018 and yet still watching a first ride 😂 )
It’s a RR, reason 1 is the fastest you mainly want to go fast that’s why you bought a RR 2 mode is for your friend 3 mode is for your 17 year old son .
Had a 929 for 10 years. The cockpit views brought back a huge heaping of nostalgia. Big tank into a skinny front cowl. The 1000 still has the feel of it. And yeah, the on/off throttle abruptness was on the 929 too.
I have a 2021 cbr1000rr. Ive got some mods that change this bike so much! Its so much faster. carbon fiber velocity stacks, air block off plates, cat delete, m4 slip on, bmc air filter, sprockets and chain. this bike is very fast.
Nope, this is a 2021. They kept the ‘17+ model in 2021 as a “base model” and then the RR-R is kind of a higher trim CBR. You could compare it to the R1 - R1M or the ZX10R - ZX10RR.
QUICKSHIFTERS! Can anyone tell me if there’s an aftermarket up AND DOWN quick shifter with auto-blip and if so what’s a single particular example of one you know of? Do they work on all bikes? Do they require cable throttle or throttle by wire or ?
PLEASE HELP Hey, I have a 2006 Cbr600rr and its been misfiring randomly. It mostly does it when the bike is hot, but sometimes when its cold and generally in low RPM. I changed the spark plugs, coils, did a fluid wash, gas stabilizer, oil change, checked the connections and related electrical stuff. When I put the new coils in, I made sure that the strips were all the way in. Any idea what could be causing it to still misfire?
Good video, but seriously man....way way wayyyyy too many ADS in the video !! I counted at least 8 interruptions of ads in your video which was extremely aggravating.
if you had ever driven a truck you know why the engine breaking is good when you are going high numbers and why the power is good at lower number as its the opposite sides. says like when the number goes up with engine braking means more breaking assistance and with the power, well more power ;)
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OC here I absolutely need the bike to excite me. I'm not just an A-B rider anymore. When I was commuting I didn't care, the ride was enough, but now that I don't commute 2 wheel life is about excitement and the bike is part of that.
Honda is a good company for motorcycles
You meet the nicest people on a Honda. I’m a Harley ride myself though 😁
Japan does not make many bad bikes all solid built and low maintenance
@@BrandonJohnson-yb8xn lol I remember that ad! okay well I was not alive when that came out, but still.
@@BrandonJohnson-yb8xn is it just a coincidence that
@@RickyLafleur10 both people here are Brandons
That’s a beautiful bike, love the colors
I traded in my Z900 for a CBR1000RR, I like it so much better. Really enjoying it so far.
Hey, I currently have a Z900, and I'm not too happy with it. It feels very underpowered and doesn't have any real hit in the power-band. I'm thinking about buying a CBR1000RR. Does the CBR feel a great deal more powerful, and does it have a top-end rush of power? I'm really wanting that thrill of power that the Z900 lacks. Also, is the CBR comfortable enough for a semi-long distance ride?
@@wedie2soon Yeah, the CBR1000RR does have a great deal more power, which i mainly feel at higher RPM's. I could only last up to 2 hours before i feel like dying lol. I currently dont have my CBR anymore, it was stolen and the thief totaled it. It was super fun while i had it.
I currently have a z900 as well. It has plenty of tourque but just lacks something. How is the cbr 1000 rr in the lower revs compared to the z900?
Dude said he can’t be thrilled or excited while riding a 1000. Have people lost their minds? I had a 2017 fireblade and it was disgustingly fast. NO ONE needs 95mph in first gear. Though, then again, I have always disagreed with the big dude in the car so whatever 😂
Yeah but 2021 is light and feels like a 600cc. Is over kill but you have the power if you need it. Usually 600 would be plenty speed and perfect weight but again this 1000RR is light.
@@PehpehoptepAbsolutely. The added torque the liter bikes provide makes the power more available around town as well.
Dear Mountain Motorsports Crew: Don't cringe up when a customer walks up to your sales people and asks if you honor Chase's discount.
Which location did you go to?
I picked this up yesterday in all black with quick shifter/auto blipper, carbon parts, Full akra exhaust and it’s been flashed and makes 191HP at the wheel. 2019 model, only done 2000 miles. Can’t wait to pick it up next week
It has electronic steering dampers. It’ll definitely feel like harder to toss around but in fact it’s quite nimble
It’s a more base model and you’ve ridden the next model that’s really the old 17 model. If you had ridden that model SP it would be closer to the RR-R SP
Lmao no it wouldn’t the RRR and the regular SP are 2 different bikes
The 2021 cbr1000rr for the american market is the sc77. Meaning its a rebranded 2017-2019 model. The sc82 base model only shipped to asia and europe. We got screwed.
@@ChaseN194 Not quite, the non-sp rrr model is roughly 22-23k USD in the markets that it was introduced. They probably wanted to compete in the 15-16k bracket with the old model
@@k2t210 possibly but for the $20k price range the base model sc82 its honestly worth it as it is actually better than all other base model 1000cc sportbikes.
I like the look of the Honda CBR 1000 RR, but the Honda CBR 1000 RR-R SP just hits harder.
Yea but its soooooooo much more money lol
Its legit a race bike so sick
I like the look of the Honda CBR 1000 RR-R SP, but the Honda CBR 1000 RR-R/SP2 37X-31 Project just hits harder.
If you get the CBR 1000-RR R SP, and unrestrict it, it's as powerful as about 220HP or more. Just by ecu alone.
I prefer the other way around i think this one looks much better
1:10 surely this graph is wrong. A CBR1000RR scores higher in comfort than it does in horsepower?
The chart maybe for the Monkey??
@@charlesm.8807 😂
Hello Chase, that is the base model. There is an SP version of that that has gold wheels on it.
I have the 2018 fireblade….the very same model as this one with a quick shifter tail tidy and akrapovic slip on-it’s a beautiful bike to look at and ride and it’s LOUD with the slip on I actually couldn’t imagine how loud it would be with a full exhaust system😂I’m 5”9 with 30” inseam and can’t quite flat foot it but it’s very manageable I came from riding an r3 to the cbr and it’s very very manageable once you remember it can really bite if not respected 👍🏼
Honda makes great everything
Is someone gonna tell him that he reviewed this bike already?
The other one was the SP model...
OC: For me that bike that bike sounds like a dream supersport. Smooth power, more upright - just me. I’ll probably get bored after a season or two because that lack of “character” but I could live with that 🤘
So early in the video, 360p is only available lol
Haha same
😂😂Bro
It’s 1080p now after 4 hours
I picked up a brand new left over 2018 cbr 1000rr about 8 months ago and it looks exactly the same as this 🤷🏻🤷🏻
It is. The RR-R SP is technically a 2022 model but it was released before the regular version after the 17-21 body style was already in the market so you could say it’s last years model but it was still produced for the beginning of this year
I got a zero miles 2018 CBR1000 three months ago for 12k....love it!
@Elijah Gutierrez thats a steal wtf
@@elijahgutierrez5739 i got a 19 hold over back in august 12.5 plus 1000 in tax
@@Turtle-RR Nice! Best looking liter bike right now!
This is the last gen fireblade which i think was sold from 2017-2020. The new base model one is the Cbr-1000rr-R and top spec Cbr-1000rr-R SP (The base model is the same bike but without the extra bits). Though the confusion may come from the fact that they still sell those old ones next to the new gen ones in the US. The old fireblades had a lot more comfort but wayyyy less power, because power has really not been the main point of the fireblade until the latest generation, it was the smoothness.
Though it still was an interesting comparison! 😅
You complain sooo much and this is there base model bike. They have a 1000rr-r non sp that hasn’t released in the us yet. So complain about that
Those mirrors though…. I can’t stop seeing Yodas ears.
“Taper” means to diminish, so wanting the power to “taper on” is a term that’s in conflict with itself. I enjoyed your review, though.
OC: Definitely want to be excited by a bike I'm gonna ride. Be it's styling or power delivery or comfort and ergonomics. Which is why I love my Daytona. Guess it's like a car. Walk out in the morning and you don't like the look of your car, you're not going to be excited to drive it.
I figured it out it work on safety
Power 1 for pure or 5 for safer less responsive
I like when bikes don’t have quick shifters. Shifting is part of the fun riding a motorcycle
You literally gave this bike the complete opposite review as you did on the 17' model (exciting vs bland, heavy vs light etc..) They're literally the same exact bike lol 🤣what gives?? I'm staring to think these bike reviews are B.S. and just a way to get views......
You’re right on target Chase. They should make the numbers match in the different settings and it DEFINITELY needs a better dash!
Wheelie control mode is correct, made me look, not supposed to need that key, kinda wierd unless that was Euro only.
Hondas typically have loose chains when they’re new. I have a cb1000r and mine was super jerky when I first got it. The chain was super loose. After the shop tightened it up it it felt great. I’m thinking you’re has the same issue
You already reviewed this bike. The 2017-USA 2021 is the SC77. America didnt get the actual 2021 cbr1000. The rest of the world got a non-sp version of the RRR SP.
Bruh this bike is a brutally fast bike 175 top can’t lie it’s a smooth ride and very calm in the city mode 2 for me
Hey bro. Is the cbr 1000rr much slower than the other higher hp litrebikes??
With the numbering, its set up for how much computer intervention do you want. 5 most 1 least.
Got the 2022 CBR 1000RR-ABS as a first bike last week, love it so far. Literally a beast on wheels.
So would u say its a good beginner bike ?
@@jayyxyyt definitely not, very powerful bike. I had some experience in liter bikes ( friend’s ones) from 15 years ago and I ride very safe.
I would advice an SV650 ABS or a CBR650 ABS as a first bike. An R7 can be a good choice too. Starting with a 185 HP bike as a first bike is very dangerous, you can at your own risk.
@@Ben-sr5rg thanks man
how has it been treating you? no drops? also if you do drop the bike are Honda parts expensive to replace on motorcycles
Too powerful, torque control saved me many times, current config P5T3W3EB2. You can read about it online. No drops (yet). If I can go back in time I would’ve got the CBR650r instead of the CBR1000rr
I just did my first oil change, I got the filter from Amazon actually(oem), it’s genuine honda that cost me 17$
I might buy a quick shifter just for fun. If you’re in the Austin TX area let me know, I’ll let you try it.
OC: I'm new at riding so i'm gonna say yes to being excited with the bike you are riding, but tbh i'm excited on any bike i ride so there that.. :p Buying a bike knowing its gonna mehh or buying one that you know you're gonna have a blast on every time you go to ride it, i think everyone is gonna choose option 2.
I love this damn bike!
I like the look of this one more than the RR-R, but that one is definitely more exciting in terms of performance. Regardless, I'm never gonna come close to the limits of these bikes so this one would be more for me.
This dude in the car… for Me is not my cup of tea!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 dude… I can’t imaging you fitting on that bike 🏍
Idk about this bike any more. I absolutely love the size of the new CBRs but hate the electronic throttle valve and drive by wire. I might be forced to buy a used bike given that emissions regulations seems to have killed new bikes
This ain't the latest model , this is the previous one
He didnt say its the rr-r. I think the American market still has the rr as a 2021 MY
I want to be excited. Have that adrenaline pumping
That's not a 2021? That's the previous gen.
Thats the 2021 update of the previous model
The 3R is different bike
@@kris2659 No they stopped making the RR in favour of the RR-R in 2020. This bike is just miss labelled
Check Honda USA's website before spewing nonsense. This is the only RR model here....
@@CBRboy1717 Maybe you should take a look at Honda GLOBAL's website and see that the official 2019 model year was the last of the RR, just because in the US they stick a "2021" tag on a leftover motorcycle, doesn't make it a 2021 model.
OC: I haven't been able to test ride every bike I've owned so If a bike doesn't excite me, I usually don't keep it long or don't end up buying it. Different bikes/brands excite different people though.
How does it not come with a quick shifter?! Damn it Honda..
Damn… that sways my choice cause the quick shifter on my ZX6R is just so smooth to use
You should do a review on the new 2021 Yamaha R1s and compare the two
Love your videos, I just wanted to throw this out. I recently bought a 2006 Yamaha FZ1. It has that horrible throttle lag, Yamaha actually shuts off the fuel, it’s like turning off the key every time it decelerates, then you accelerate there is a lag until the fuel comes back on. They do this for fuel economy. There is a simple fix at least for the FZ1- flash the ECU and get rid of that throttle lag, also, when I had it flashed I got 50% more power in the three lower gears. Sounds like Honda has put a lot of restrictions in the ECU. Just thought I’d mention this.
Wish Honda still made hand built special machines like the RC30,RC45.
Engine braking the 1 is highest setting, 3 is least. When it’s in 3 it should coast loosely when you get off throttle.
@Game Time with Jc check your owner’s manual. 1 is the strongest engine braking, 3 is the weakest engine braking effect.
$16,499 and no QS? What a miss.
It has a quick shifter, and you can see the quick shifting rod is installed on the left foot gear shifter. However, you need to turn the quick shifter on using the electronic screen :) hope this helps! (I have a cbr1000rr 2018 and yet still watching a first ride 😂 )
Im having a 125cc honda too and it does just fine, not too exciting but cool enough :))))
Early Gang! Awesome bike! Hope to be on a sports bike soon! Right now just ride a vstar 1300
Gentlemen superbike
This is 2019 model..not 21
This is a 2021 RR.... NOT a 2021 RR-R....
First
Never thought I would be the first person o watch and comment on a new video
My neighbor has the same bike but an older model
It’s a RR, reason 1 is the fastest you mainly want to go fast that’s why you bought a RR 2 mode is for your friend 3 mode is for your 17 year old son .
Had a 929 for 10 years. The cockpit views brought back a huge heaping of nostalgia. Big tank into a skinny front cowl. The 1000 still has the feel of it. And yeah, the on/off throttle abruptness was on the 929 too.
I own one and I really like it
OC that's a good bike to get, if they have hugh discount. It's one of the lightest 1000cc super sport.
I’m in Between this bike and a Ducati panigale v2. What do you like better mainly for street and joy rides around town.
This is the content I signed up for! Keep these first rides coming!
This aint a 2021. The 2021 model has keyless ignition and an enormous air vent between the headlights.
2021 rr not 2021 rr-r. I think the American market had newer graphics for the 2021 MY CBR1000RR.
Notification squad 🔥
Got 32,000 miles on my 2018 cbr1000rr black. I live my bike and will trade it in for a new 2021 same bike soon
2021 ZX-6R KRT video
I got the new 1000RRm. Definitely needs restrictions taken off before the bike truly shines.
fix the vid quality BREH
How are we in 2021 with RUclips vids that still aren't in 60 FPS.
Awesome vid!
Nice looking bike 👍🏼
thank you for not blurring the speedometer on the highway.. Thumbs up for that
14:55 that’s so funny you say that, I rented out the same motorcycle and was shocked to see I was going 130 after a quick highway pull 😅
I like this CBR. Red looks awesome.
Oc.... even the ninja 400 is exciting. But the 636 is best bike all around ever!
Ayo i think i just saw you riding your bike in nc i was wearing a hat yellow jersey i play baseball it look exactly like your bike
The 2021 CBR1000RR DOES have a quick shifter available
Gorgeous bike and great review.
Does anyone know the brand of the helmet? It's sick
as long as it took to get a reply is about how long it’s gon take for the helmet to come in
I have a 2021 cbr1000rr. Ive got some mods that change this bike so much! Its so much faster. carbon fiber velocity stacks, air block off plates, cat delete, m4 slip on, bmc air filter, sprockets and chain. this bike is very fast.
This is the 2020 model......the 2021 looks entirely different
Nope, this is a 2021. They kept the ‘17+ model in 2021 as a “base model” and then the RR-R is kind of a higher trim CBR. You could compare it to the R1 - R1M or the ZX10R - ZX10RR.
@@luketyner7016 oh alright.....i wqs wondering why he called it 2021 lol
Nice!! I have a 2020 Honda CBR 650R, looks similar to this.
Same, just traded it for one of these. Picking it up tomorrow
I just got the same bike two weeks ago and it actually excites me. Not sure what the hell it would take to excite that dude.
@@williamdavis4809 Dude I know it is fast AS HELL!! when you open that throttle all the way it will fly!
QUICKSHIFTERS! Can anyone tell me if there’s an aftermarket up AND DOWN quick shifter with auto-blip and if so what’s a single particular example of one you know of? Do they work on all bikes? Do they require cable throttle or throttle by wire or ?
Awesome review, with sound off
I'm a new rider, been using a R3 for a while. Does anyone know how tall he is? I wanna compare to my height when watching the rest of his videos
can you review the rcv213v-s ?
PLEASE HELP
Hey, I have a 2006 Cbr600rr and its been misfiring randomly. It mostly does it when the bike is hot, but sometimes when its cold and generally in low RPM.
I changed the spark plugs, coils, did a fluid wash, gas stabilizer, oil change, checked the connections and related electrical stuff. When I put the new coils in, I made sure that the strips were all the way in.
Any idea what could be causing it to still misfire?
still prefer my 2018 1000rr that has a little less white on it......although i wish i had the matte black with red
Sound check, where is Patrick at? Or does he dislike Hondas that much?
OC: can you do a comparison jump from a 600rr to this. Like how good of an upgrade would it be or the differences.
I agree the dash is a little tiny, definitely needs a fuel gauge and quick shifter.
Yeah, I don't know what's with these litre bikes not having fuel gauge. These machines chug fuel like it's nothing, of course I need my fuel gauge.
u should really do a cb650r review that would be awesome
I am confused.. so this model is still available? What about the new cbr ? Isn’t it replacing this?
Good video, but seriously man....way way wayyyyy too many ADS in the video !! I counted at least 8 interruptions of ads in your video which was extremely aggravating.
Agreed! Ads are getting out of control 😄.
1000s are so expensive now ffff.
if you had ever driven a truck you know why the engine breaking is good when you are going high numbers and why the power is good at lower number as its the opposite sides. says like when the number goes up with engine braking means more breaking assistance and with the power, well more power ;)
Was this more comfortable than the V2 Ducati Panigale or no?
Sad, 7 add dots shown when using a phone.
This is a all rounder sexy fireblade 🔥
Camera car input is kinda strange
How are the ergos compared to the cbr650r? I’m told the cbr1000rr is a somewhat more relaxed ergonomically compared to the 600rr or 1000rr-r
Can you review the BMW G310R
That's the previous gen cbr1000rr, not a 2021 one. Think you messed up there.
Dude, there's 2 models. It's not an RR-R. It's a 2021 RR.
this video is almost half an hour old and its still only 360p...