Good info on the GR86! RTV seems to be an issue in JP cars as well, but it's cool to see Revolution break down their philosophy on the car overall. I hope for subtitles soon!
The car gets the lap record at Gunsai, beating 911s, an AMG GTR, R35 GTR and mk2 NSX, and people still think they know better and suggest engine swapping. Daft.
Just amazed at how far this platform has already come in regards to implementations to mitigating all of the limiting factors of maximum speed/grip ratios. The front suspension/adjustability and stabilizer mounts just the overall potential this platform offers to each build/tuner. It really showcases how much potential there really is here when people are already this passionate/determined to offer something worthwhile this quick into a cars platform/induction.
8:27 Revolution discusses using the OEM stock dampers, which has great bump & rebound. They use aftermarket HAL springs with softer spring rates to counter the light-weight of the car. 11:29 Revolution shows the custom OEM stock dampers on custom upper mounts that let the car sit lower without sacrificing suspension travel height.
Considering the age, Tsuchiya-san’s performance is absolutely incredible!!!! It’s pretty hard for the fans who wish him both a more enjoyable life and keeping the touge attack at the same time😂
The suspension setup looks so dialed in on this car! The way it absorbs all the bumps perfectly and doesn't bounce at all is insane! If this had a bit more power, it would be a MAOU contender for sure!
you can tell how much he appreciates the weight reductions and suspension tunes as he goes from the down to uphill to transitioning straights. The car just holds up to that section really well based on the tune.
It looks very precise explanation in the first half of the video about tuning the GR86 but unfortunately I can’t read and listen Japanese! The auto translation is very poor!!! Very impressive to see Tsuchiya-San, Nob and Orido flying in Gunsai!!! Wish you all long lives and prosperity🙏🏻
Interviewer came out swinging lol, "so these engines blow up, right?" 😂 Very interesting information about the strainer and sealant blockage. Shame that is happening to a brand new car.
the oil strainer is shown to be not a engine breaking problem, the low oil pressure in right turns is bad tho, toyota/subaru need to update the oil pan/pickup and offer it to people who already have the car
0:26 I hear you broke your engine? The protruding packing clogs the strainer. The seal cannot be removed because the mesh of the strainer is recessed. When the oil shakes like circuit driving, the seal is easy to peel off. The seal sticks to the net, so you have to suck it off.
3:10 Regarding engine temperature control The oil cooler was attached as normal, but the performance was not enough. It is desirable to replace it if you run on a circuit like a 2l engine.
4:22 About ecu tuning Not yet. In fact, this car also has a normal engine, a normal ECU, and a normal harness. The ecu is completely different. It takes time to develop.
Lots of ways. More timing, bolt-ons, higher octane fuel, increased compression, and that's before modifying the engine. From there, you could do better drivetrain, valves, cams, pistons, rods...
race fuel tune maybe? and converted to electic water pump , some more power there! plus it was tested on a Dynapack dyno, which gives, while be it consistent, higher results compared to other dynos.
It’s sad that Toyota and Subaru don’t listen to people like you with brilliant ideas 💡 what are you going to do with the front wheelhouse when air pressure build up ? Should you cut part of the door ? Will you put a flat undertray under the car ? For better aerodynamic
内側の肉抜きとカーボン化を見るにえげつない軽量化施してるのにパワーに対する接地感が全然損なわれてないのが凄い
This is why i love Japanase custom cars; they focus more on balance, weight, handling, stability and rigidity then on just raw power
ドリキンは90スープラとか新型のシビックタイプR乗ってる時より86乗ってる時の方が100倍楽しそうで見てるこっちが微笑ましい。笑
ノーマルエンジンをベースに仕上げていくスタイル本当に好き。
いろんな意見があるけど個人的には速さに特化したこういうコテコテなチューニングカーは本当にかっこいいし大好きだな。
あとこの3人の運転はいつ見ても本当に気持ちがいい！！
I really like Revolution's tuning philosophy. Make the car as light as possible while implementing minimal engine modifications to ensure reliability.
Agree. Looking back their last FT86 breaking down almost very time, it’s better to keep the engine stock then focus on weight
時代進んでも「極軽」が楽しさの秘訣ってことなんかな
ホンマにこれやと思う
Thank you for adding English subtitles 🙌🏻
Thanks for the subtitles
ドンガラがレギュレーション的にどうなのかと言うところはさておいてドライなら魔王になれるでしょコレwww
土屋さんがアメリカでチューニングカーに乗った時に「アメリカのチューニングカーは内装まで綺麗に作ってあって凄い」って言ってたのを思い出しました。
魅せるための車と早く走るための車は別もんだと思ってます()
車はカッコよくないとね
Good info on the GR86! RTV seems to be an issue in JP cars as well, but it's cool to see Revolution break down their philosophy on the car overall. I hope for subtitles soon!
The car gets the lap record at Gunsai, beating 911s, an AMG GTR, R35 GTR and mk2 NSX, and people still think they know better and suggest engine swapping. Daft.
素敵な配信ありがとうございます。
特に谷口さんのインプレッションの時の映像が、とてつもなく気持ち良かったです。
車の完成度を最大限に引き出して操縦する谷口さんの技術がたまらんです。
車の行きたい方向に吸い込まれるような映像に見えました。
本当に最高です❤
Love how Mr Tsuchiya is adamant on cars being street cars not race cars!!
元々は視聴者にオススメできる仕様を紹介してたんですよね
魔王争いが過激化して半分忘れられてるけど
こういうのもあれなんですけど土屋さん影武者が運転してるんじゃないかっていうくらい御歳を感じさせない走りに脱帽です。
Just amazed at how far this platform has already come in regards to implementations to mitigating all of the limiting factors of maximum speed/grip ratios. The front suspension/adjustability and stabilizer mounts just the overall potential this platform offers to each build/tuner. It really showcases how much potential there really is here when people are already this passionate/determined to offer something worthwhile this quick into a cars platform/induction.
8:27 Revolution discusses using the OEM stock dampers, which has great bump & rebound. They use aftermarket HAL springs with softer spring rates to counter the light-weight of the car.
11:29 Revolution shows the custom OEM stock dampers on custom upper mounts that let the car sit lower without sacrificing suspension travel height.
I've been telling everyone for a decade... stiff chassis and compliant dampers makes a car FAST on imperfect streets.
It’s called Tarmac Rally, look up the rally cars running on the street. Stiff chassis soft suspension.
Considering the age, Tsuchiya-san’s performance is absolutely incredible!!!! It’s pretty hard for the fans who wish him both a more enjoyable life and keeping the touge attack at the same time😂
1005kg is insane🤯 i want a gr so bad
Get a miata instead.. weightloss built-in ;)
The suspension setup looks so dialed in on this car! The way it absorbs all the bumps perfectly and doesn't bounce at all is insane! If this had a bit more power, it would be a MAOU contender for sure!
やっぱ軽くて高剛性は正義なのですね。軽くなったことで、純正ダンパーがスポーツ走行にマッチしたのですね。
キャブいじってた時によく感じましたが、やっぱり純正ってすごい扱いやすいですよね。
GR86での峠アタック楽しみです！ありがとうございます。
濡れた路面で25秒て魔王やん
you can tell how much he appreciates the weight reductions and suspension tunes as he goes from the down to uphill to transitioning straights. The car just holds up to that section really well based on the tune.
You know you have a great car and suspension when all 3 of these legends say it's amazing. I would just melt.
28:51 織戸さんが土屋さんをちょいちょいイジるのが好き
「ノーマルダンパーでいいんだねぇ」が好きすぎるww
Can't believe DK is almost 70 years old and he drives like this! 🙏
Oh please! 67 is nothing. Walter Rohrl is 10 years older and still goes ball out. Ari Vatanen is older than DK too.
Dont worry. The average life expectancy of the Japanese is 80 years.
Japao terra de grandes máquinas tanto em 4 rodas como em duas sao os melhores ❤😅
21:02
ここで全然跳ねてない、こりゃすげー足だわ
This has serious Maou potential. Can’t wait to see this strong contender competing soon.
ドンガラありだっけ？って思いながら見てたけど土屋さんも同じで良かったわ
純正ダンパー用のアッパーマウントの商品化待ってます
277馬力はエグいわ、コスパ最強
ダウンサスって見た目以外にどうなんだろうと思ってましたが、良い効能で面白くとても参考になりましたｗ スペック紹介のBGMもとても好みです
DK himself saying he loves the car? Can there be really any higher praise
It is his type of car after all. Not much power but mainly focused on excessive handling capability.
軽さも相まっているからだけど、ノーマルダンパーで走れるって凄いことよね。
安いからヘタっても交換費用怖くないしｗ
It's proven that the oil pressure drop on right hand turn, not just rtv leading to engine failure
The energy at the opening sucked me in so fast haha😂
エンジンノーマルで280馬力までいけるのか・・・凄いポテンシャルだ
200 kilogram loss for lightness and quick acceleration. That's a brilliant idea.
🔥🔥🔥 so much information !! thanks !! I will aplly this knowledge on mine ! stock damper results are impressive, I will now go with spring upgrade only
Would be nice if English subs added in this great video.
I'm watching with English subs now if you want to rewatch!
ぷす～んに対しての織戸選手の「そうですね、わかりずらかったっすね」をサラッと言っちゃうところに笑いのセンスを感じる
軽量86は絶対楽しい！
Hopefully revolution can mass produce those top hats for the stock suspension. 🙏 and sell em in the USA.
I'm sure with dk's praise and some more testing it will happen.
If not sold in USA just go to RHD Japan or Nengun and i'm sure you can get them.
ファイナル変更してるのでメーターディスプレイのシフトが実際のシフトとズレてるんですか？？
ノーマルダンパーでいいって
国産もここまで来たんだなと、、、
これだけプロの皆さんにベタ誉めされれば 作った方は さぞ嬉しいだろうね👍️
Please make a list with all engine modifications. Amasing power!
GR86乗ってますが、ノーマルの足はかなり良いです。
車高落とす気無ければそのままでマルチに使えます。
ヤフオクでノーマルダンパー今のうちに買って予備にしておこうかな。
It looks very precise explanation in the first half of the video about tuning the GR86 but unfortunately I can’t read and listen Japanese! The auto translation is very poor!!!
Very impressive to see Tsuchiya-San, Nob and Orido flying in Gunsai!!! Wish you all long lives and prosperity🙏🏻
友人の勧めで純正形状とダウンサスの組み合わせで乗ってたけど話は本当だったのか
Half wet condition 25”72
Please take maou!!!!! I hv been waiting for years to see a 86 getting the title
it still belongs to J's racing S2000! =)
@@truthseeker764 i wish this 86 can beat j’s
@@truthseeker764 the spirits mrs would like a word ruclips.net/video/NqaWng6-_dU/видео.html
The thing is MRS used semi slicks. The rest of entrants used radials. I wonder if using radials would make MRS slower
レボリューションの代表のコメントやドライバー3人のインプレッションを聞く限り、本当に『良くも悪くも作り込まれたクルマ』なんだな、と思いました。そもそものポテンシャルが高いから、相当に技術力のあるチューナーがガチで手掛けないと却って素の味を悪くしてしまうクルマなのかも。
ついこの間もなんかのチャンネルで見たけど
この車関係なく無理にチューニングした他の車も
ノーマルの方がコーナー速いんじゃないかって言われてたわ
パワー上げまくってプロが乗ればタイムは出ちゃうもんな
Awsome video! Please please please english translation needed!
Nobuteru is a great driver!! He really got the best out of that car
レボリューション86のフロントフェイスかっこええなあ
音もいいかっこもいいタイムもいい
最強やん✨
GR86走り込んでますが、足純正ですが、めちゃ✖︎2 いいですよね！扱いやすい‼️
A 59.6 at Tsukuba is insanely fast.
Gr Supra with s tires on decent coil over with track alignment can also do sub 1min.
@@patthonsirilim5739 yea, and Supra costs twice as much.
@@patthonsirilim5739 aren't they in different categories though? The gr supra is turbocharged and the gr86 is NA
@@patthonsirilim5739 and twice the fucking horsepower lol.
Interviewer came out swinging lol, "so these engines blow up, right?" 😂
Very interesting information about the strainer and sealant blockage. Shame that is happening to a brand new car.
There was a similar issue on the first gens iirc
Need an English subtitle please
Can you guys please do English subtitles? The auto translate doesn’t do well
へえノーマルダンパーのダウンサスなんすね
目から鱗です
NAで270馬力！！ポテンシャルえぐいな
これがドライだったらS2とFDとの同タイムになりそうですね☺️
I really like that panda colour
Can I donate for subtitles?
Revolution getting the most out of this 86 is truly incredible, I can’t wait to see further development.
This right here is driving, Americans. not just "its all about my horses and going straight line."
Looking forward to the new Maou coming!!!
Is engine stock internals? I want to see this car on dry conditions!
念のためロールケージ欲しいな。めっちゃ楽しそう！
So we have two main issues on this car :
1) oil strainer getting clogged by excessive sealant application
2) drop in oil pressure in right turns
the oil strainer is shown to be not a engine breaking problem, the low oil pressure in right turns is bad tho, toyota/subaru need to update the oil pan/pickup and offer it to people who already have the car
I really wish if Best Motoring would ask Revolution to bring both of their 86s for comparison and have battle against each other.
The collab we all need
取り敢えずエンジン壊れるのだけ何とかして欲しい
もうスバルがやる気ないっぽいんでトヨタが作る次の86に期待するしじゃないですね
自分もgr86買ったけど失敗かも
@@デミ夫デミ スバルがいるからbrz/86がつくれたのであってトヨタだけでは作らんよ
サーキット行く人は自分でバッフルプレートやら、オイルパンガスケット対策すればいいし
マイナーチェンジで期待するしかないな
バッフル付けようがシール材対策しようがブローしてるけどな
スポーツカーですぐ壊れるエンジンは論外
A90スープラの直4載せる方が多分マシだろ
English subtitles please!
Damn…need subtitles….car looks amazing!!
I would pay to see this with subtitles
0:26
I hear you broke your engine?
The protruding packing clogs the strainer.
The seal cannot be removed because the mesh of the strainer is recessed.
When the oil shakes like circuit driving, the seal is easy to peel off.
The seal sticks to the net, so you have to suck it off.
3:10
Regarding engine temperature control
The oil cooler was attached as normal, but the performance was not enough. It is desirable to replace it if you run on a circuit like a 2l engine.
4:22
About ecu tuning
Not yet. In fact, this car also has a normal engine, a normal ECU, and a normal harness.
The ecu is completely different. It takes time to develop.
5:00
Almost chatting
tired good night
I've been waiting for this one! I wonder if revolution will keep it NA like their last one or go FI?
さすが土屋さん🎶
ホットバージョンはドンガラでは無いクルマが良いですね😁👍️🎶
土屋・谷口さんのドライビングはやはり凄い！
言うて街乗りだったら液ガス問題はさほど関係無いしリコールは無いでしょうね
もし街乗りオンリーでブローしたりしたら流石に保証修理になるでしょうし…
I would love to see this car go against the S2000's, Arvou and J's Racing
あれだけ 内装剥いでるのに音が静かもっとガチャガチャした音も聞こえてきても不思議じゃないのに
内側に入ってくる音が少ないでもマフラーの音はしっかり聞こえる 楽しそうな車ですね
1:30 この写真樹脂だし吸気系のパイプじゃね？って思ったらマジでストレーナーだったんか…今の時代ストレーナーまで樹脂素材とは…
同じくw
ネットが少し内側なのが余計に詰まると思うので昔ながらの幅広タイプの方が吸っても落ちると思うなぁ、トヨタには形状の改善を期待ですね〜
for a long time now appear such an amazing tuned car.
holy shit, it flies!
for real ! plus stock dampers
ドンガラなのに乗り心地良さそうで、タイムも凄い😆
でもドンガラを突っついてくれてる土屋さん、私的にはとてもステキ💖に思えました。
それでこそホットバージョン！
How the hell did they pull 277hp naturally aspirated out of the fa24??
Lots of ways. More timing, bolt-ons, higher octane fuel, increased compression, and that's before modifying the engine. From there, you could do better drivetrain, valves, cams, pistons, rods...
I believe the numbers are Bhp not whp
race fuel tune maybe? and converted to electic water pump , some more power there!
plus it was tested on a Dynapack dyno, which gives, while be it consistent, higher results compared to other dynos.
Lying?
Weight reduction plays a role in adding some HP too
Doridori looked like he was flying through the touge
edit: and then NOB does a 25.72
nob totally on fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Oil starvation issues fixed??
add lightness
it looks really light, as if its a RC car
パトリックのシューズは運転しやすいと思ってたけど、土屋さんが攻める時に履くほどいいシューズなのか
It’s sad that Toyota and Subaru don’t listen to people like you with brilliant ideas 💡 what are you going to do with the front wheelhouse when air pressure build up ? Should you cut part of the door ? Will you put a flat undertray under the car ? For better aerodynamic
Is there a new Maou tournament coming up? This car is a close contender to get Maou!