Is the Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 a modern middleweight marvel? Let's find out! | MCN Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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You mentioned this might be designed for maybe 🤔 a certain group (age) . I just turned 71 and love the styling and colors of this bike., especially the black, yellow, and purple one. This should be another winner for RE. 👍👍
I’m also that age and the RE really appeals to me .
I am 18 and I already ordered mine.
68 yrs old and also liking it (the bike, not the advancing years..:-))
Me too 63 and very experienced all kinds of bikes .I like the idea of a low cost fun capable middle weight single for everyday riding, I think Royal Enfield have hit the nail squarely on the head .
I think they have kept the retro theme Sir.. probably why older folks like urself connect with this
A Royal Enfield with 40bhp. Exactly what I wanted from my 2018 Classic 500.
Big bore it, if u can find a trusted maintainence shop.
That's one stunning bike. It's a shame the years I lived in the UK, I never seen a Royal Enfield on the road. This bike and at this price point is a dream come true for any 18-20+ year old. I had seen many expensive sports bikes, but these low cost and still beautiful bikes are essential if we want the whole sport and bikes to still exist in the future and this is not gonna happen with expensive bikes young people can't afford.
Is there a way you could enable captions/ subtitles for us hearing impaired?? Always enjoy MCN videos and the mags . 👍👍👍
...have you tried the icon...
Tap the screen... press the CC in the box icon.
@@teamtempest844 thanks for the tip but it doesn’t activate unless ( I think) the up loader enables it from their end.
@@teamtempest844It’s greyed out
RUclips takes some time to process and enable auto captions, I guess if you try to watch the video tomorrow it'll be enabled
CEAT tyres… "A relatively unknown brand in Europe"?…
You make me feel old (OK… I am old), but I can remember CEAT as a respected Italian tyre brand, though they're now made in India (nothing wrong with rubber from India. They grow the stuff🤣)… in fact CEAT opened their first factory in India in the late fifties (only a few years after Royal Enfield opened their Indian plant).
Time to bone up on your history, I guess.
Correct u r...!
Cavi Elettrici Afini Torino was an Italian brand from the 1920s
They were bought out from Pirelli in the early 80s by RPG group of India
My friend's father is a general manager there..
it's Head office/1st factory is right next to my home in Mumbai
I love that colorway. Wish this is what the Scram would have been from the get-go.
They might discontinue scram
Nowt up with 411s IMO they have more character..
*Plough* 🎉
Nice looking bike. Really fancy trying one of these.
It looks pretty beautiful
Tough to choose between this and the Triumph Speed 400 - the heart says 'Triumph' but the head says the RE with GPS and centre stand. Can't wait for the rivals video, bring it on!!!!
I use my phone and it's a far bigger screen on a good mount ,as for the Triumph , it doesn't need to be thrashed and it handles better ,fit and finish is more solid with no cheap plastics but it is a round three hundred more ...but the looks ,the finish ,even the name are worth it ...oh I own an interceptor
3:32 triumph speed 400 is not a twin
@@alanramsay463 I'm confused. How do you know the triumph handles better than the guirella? It's only launched recently. Have they already started selling them?
‘Youngsters’ ‘beginners’ ‘ a little single’ ‘child’s play’ ‘A2compliant’ - moto journalists make me laugh, I bet there will be many, many buyers of these bikes who experienced, fully licensed mature riders. Try to leave the pejorative out of the reviews, otherwise thanks for the video.
You are right but that's how it is
Exactly!! Most riders don't actually need massive, huge horse powered bikes - but want them as a status symbol. Laughable......
MCN always seem to keep a 1000cc sports bike in mind as their benchmark, which all other bikes should aspire to be.
All these msn journos seem to be bothered about is if it’s not a 1000cc it’s just a poor little plodder for beginners.
@@abhinashkumar3161 NO IT ISN''T ! We have none of that petty, insurance-kowtowing, socialist schemes for motorcycles in the USA.
That's only for people too ignorant to vote the control-freak system out of existence. Focus on rider education and insurance discounts for rider education.
Nice job ! Str8 to the points, no fuss, no B.S commentary.
This is one of the reasons I prefer Euro testers and their works to our USA counterparts.
If someone ever thought the Hunter 350 was too little, too weak . . . BAM ! Here's your answer and for what seems like a fair amount considering the MSRP of all other players in the segment.
You haven't heard or read Indian testers. Stilted, formulaic, mention each point at least thrice, and misleading.
I’m with you on the rear lighting (1300gs), no stand alone rear brake light ?, I don’t know how that’s even legal in the UK. A lot of today’s cars have tiny led indicators that get lost when the brake lights come on and now sadly bikes are going the same way, dented rear end for the car and we all know the consequences for a biker. Great review, no BS just very informative 👍
Don’t like it either, but it is the same as the new GS. And has been available for the 1250 GS for a while.
As far as I'm aware combined lights/indicators are NOT legal. The indicators have to be a specified distance from the rear light, unless the regs have changed very recently.
Terrible idea along with the driving front lights and no rear lights on - modern crap designed by college kids.
Yes BMW have had this for a while and it's DANGEROUS
Now that what I call a review !! Crisp everything Crisp and to the T great job
Bike that really interests me is the 650 Scrambler which reminds me a lot of my 1982 Triumph Tiger Trail 750.
Thats a nice looking bike. I could own one of those, and I've never owned a RE.
Apart from vibrations. RE is good now
I'm 69..been riding since I was 15..I've bought well north of 35 "brand new" bikes of all flavors, including 7 new Harleys..I've ridden close to a half million miles...I presently own several bikes, including a new klr 650 advrnture (my 8th klr) and one of my favorites is my new '24 yamaha xt 250...I ride for pleasure, finding absolutely no need to impress anyone with whatever I choose to ride....Far too often I find these utube (self described pros) pressing the idea that a smaller displacement means a "beginner" model...Foolish jibberish at best..........Various displacements offer a plethora of riding experiences for riders of all levels of experience.
Don't fall for the silly rhetoric that small displacement means entry level only.....Nothing could be more deceiving in the world of motorcycling...Good roads people!
I hope that a lot of riders and journalists alike read your post. They would learn something if they did.
"Don't fall for the silly rhetoric that small displacement means entry level only."… Well said, Jack… It takes a better skilled rider to get the best out of a smaller bike, but it can be a lot more fun too.
@@ChrisParrett-qo4sx spot on...
Because that is how these motorcycle companies label these bikes. Entry level, beginner, A2 compliant.
If you like motorcycles, you shouldn't get hurt because an engine is described as a "small displacement".
@@104rr not really..never saw the reintroduced honda 125 trail introduced as entry level...Just a nice, light and nimble street legal trail bike...it's usually the novice rider that learned how to make a video, but knows very little about motorcycles....😎
I really hope for a 450 scram version
Yes, and with a larger fuel tank, at least 5 extra litres please Royal Enfield. And a centralised instrument panel, not offset. Heated grips wouldn't go astray & wouldn't add much cost either. A decent luggage rack should go on the build list too. Royal Enfield could easily compete with the Suzuki V-Strom 250SX and the Kawasaki Versys-X 300. They know how to build a bike that's affordable, but they need to consider. The 450 Scram we envisage could fit nicely between pure road bikes and the dual sport / ADV-style models. Let's hope they do it and do it well.
While a scram could be in the works next possible launch is bullet 650 as it's currently under testing (650 scrambler might be launched following that)@@Jonathan-L
as the scram is a naked version of the himalayan and this is a naked version of the new himalayan, i highly doubt they will waste their time making a 450 scram lol
Royal Enfield is working on it you can expect it in 2025
Great review. Very engaging and does justice to the bike.
Ceat is a very reliable and old established brand in India, not just on the dry roads but also performs excellent in th heavy Indian monsoon rains.
well I replaced them after some brown trousers moments on my 650 interceptor ,I have Avon's and a huge difference ,still am not in love with it ,less than a thousand miles and a litany of issues .....no help from RE either ....
@@alanramsay463 well the Ceat tyres for the interceptor aren't great.
I used Ceats on my Vespa (8" wheels) and Bajaj Chetak for 25 years. Now have MRF on my motorcycle.
Ceat is cheap poor quality plastic like tyre zero grip in wet conditions
@@itsmeee7364 maybe because you are cheap poor quality
Bike is on the heavy side ...so RE engineers figured down size the fuel tank to 11 litres may help... 🤔 mmmm. I understand it's also vibes a bit too much?
Honestly I’ve become so enamoured with the idea of getting into motorbikes after I stumbled upon the release of the Guerilla
I don’t have a license yet, I know I need to do all the work around that, but the heritage of royal Enfield, being an Indian brand (im second gen English but my grandparents are Indian and our family out there own these machines)and this regression I’m seeing where it’s not about owning the largest motorcycle has made it much easier to swing the idea with my partner who generally hates the idea of me owning a motorbike
Cracking video Dan! Thanks. Can’t wait to see in real life, and that color (black, yellow, purple logo) is epic!
I’m 75 and coming from a BMW 1200GS and Husqvarna 701. I desperately need a smaller, shorter, lighter bike. Been looking at the new Himalayan, CFMOTO IBEX 450 and now the Gorilla. It needs to be able to cruise at 70-75mph and have some dirt road capability. I’m still looking and weighing options.
I do have an Interceptor 650 I converted to a scrambler and it’s been a fun bike. Still too heavy.
Good review Dan. Not wearing rose tinted glasses, but a fair assessment.
Very well presented,great motorcycle for Town and Country roads.
Somehow they created a very good bike and I think that it is gonna sell very well. The higher seat test video would be a very informative one.
Love this bike is aimed at this age group.
No, it's not. it's a motor bike .
You want it, buy it.
The little cub has sold hundreds of millions to all ages because it's a brilliant bike that all ages buy.
Not because of its engine size but its just great at what it does
Nice review and it looks like a decent bike, I hear a lot of comparison to the Triumph, what about to the Honda CL500? P.S. I never knew Shawa made forks! haha
Just bought a new Guerilla 450 and having a right mare trying to get it insured. I’m 64, clean licence (held since 1977), live in Mid-Sussex, keep bikes in locked brick built garage at my house, no claims, no offences but nearly all insurance providers are saying they can’t quote for the GRR, something to do with RE not yet having registered the new GRR with the ABI. Only managed to get two quotes, one for £595 (BikeSure) and one for £1,035!! (Bennetts). I currently have a multi bike insurance for my three current bikes, Hunter 350, Scram 411 and Interceptor, fully comp for £140. The multi bike insurance provider (Carole Nash) say they can’t quote for the GRR as ‘computer says no’. Any pointers or advice would be much appreciated. I’ve tried just about everywhere including MCN but vast majority say can’t quote and as mentioned above the only quotes I have received are a bit of a joke quite frankly. Thanks
That bike is crying out for twin clocks and a wee fly screen, 11ltr tank abit small but i like the longer front mudguard xonpared to tge obvious rival triumph
Great choice of bikes now for people to get into motorcycles. I sat my test on a 100cc yamaha went straight to a 600 quite a difference in throttle control 😂 a couple of weeks and you want something bigger lol.
Yes, leaving the indicators on is a real issue with RE's screen. I have the Himi 450 and I seem to leave them on more often than I have with previous bikes. There is the "Indimate" system available to give audible turn signals through your Helmet mounted intercom, but at £100, they're a little pricey.
Appreciate the way you pronounce ‘Himalayan’ 😄
Thanks for your review, as always good, seen this bit late
So we very much need the comparison test with the Triumph Speed 400.
Nice looking retro bike test ride I think
Not just cheaper than a Triumph Speed Twin. Its cheaper then top spec 125s
The pronouncing of Himalayan was hilarious, you got it once though😅😂
04:32 FINALLY!! someone pronounce the name correctly 😅. Its Himaalayan not Him-lay-in you people. S
Great job on the review 👌
Ok so who out of the MCN office has taken the piss out of his pronunciation of Showa and the Himilayan😂😂😂
Good riding on a fun looking bike. Makes me want to go out riding right now.
I wish the tester would give some personal details so one can assess what the riding position would be for one self. Inside leg and height measurement is useful to gauge a riding position. Looking at the tester his knee angle is what I consider too sharp for me. If he is only 5'10" then at 6'1" my ankles would be touching the back of my ears. With a gammy knee this bike would be totally unsuitable for me although I do like the specs. This not just MCN but other reviewers of any bike also don't mention this aspect. Seat height is not the sole indication of knee angle.
Nice bike , only problem that Royal will have is they are entering quite crowded market
Looks like they have another winner here.
I know these bikes are made for a global market. But I feel if they pushed it to 47HP or as close as via bore during development they would sell even better.
Hopefully the next engine they have in this segment hits it. People in Europe on the A2 license really are HP peeping. Of course they choose the best bike for them, but if that bike had 35kw it would be an instant TAKE MY MONEY.
For me, I don't mind. I am looking at RE for a second small runabout bike.
Eco mode is made keeping in mind terrible traffic conditions in India ...that extra 5-6% fuel efficiency can be a deal maker/breaker for people here
What bike is the himalian? Isn't it named after the mountain range, Himalayan?
That is a nice looking motorcycle.
Great looking bike but not a fan of a single cylinder bike. Its to viby at higher speeds. Please RE make this in700-800 cc and a twin and i am home
An 850 twin roadster will be fantastic!
I like sound and Excellent motorcycle in the category
I got mine yesterday, and I few videos also ❤
What a gorgeous bike! Could tempt me away from my wrist heavy Firestorm in a year or two, once they are on the second hand market. While I'm at it MCN, why are you no longer allowing private second hand bike sales on MCN? Only dealers now from what I see. Tut, Tut. Keep that up and I might stop buying the rag.
I wonder if I could fit this with proper tires for my gravel road cruising...
Id replace the round rear reflector with a led brake/rear light
That's a nice noise it makes !
This screams for a clutchless system to lower barriers to entry for potential new riders. For Triumph, competition is healthy.
Looking forward the the Scram450
Cavi Elettricie Affini Torino' (CEAT) was established in Turin, Italy in 1924 by Virginio Bruni Tedeschi. The name, CEAT, means 'electrical cables and allied products of Turin' - and the company began with manufacturing cables for telephones and railways.. It's now wholly owned by an Indian group
Good to know mate. Thanks for the info.😊
Wow, it is like every RUclipsr and Bauer media were invited!
What a great review 👍
The looks are amazing. I just purchased the Suzuki GSX-8S but much prefer the look of the entire RE range, especially this one. But everything else, aside price, is the reason I went with the 8S. There just isn’t ever the perfect bike IMO.
Lost me at its competitor being the Speed Twin 400!!!
A reckon the Triumph has it by a nose; good effort, though, by RE. However, the new little Aprilia kicks both their arses, as does the Duke 390.
The Triumph 400 and The Duke 390 motors are both made by Bajaj in India.
All of them are priced similar ?
So edgy & not everyone likes edgy design for longer period like u .
Wrong tree mate😅
Not sure about UK price, but in Australia the Aprilia is about 30% more expensive than a Triumph Speed 400. Quite a different price point.
That’s the best color
HEY kislux I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day
Yes it is .Japanese manufacturers take note and build one yourself for the same money
so exactly how far will a full tank get you ? what is the mpg ?
Probably 30-35 kmpl street and highway.
Great review ❤
The butt bots love you my dude.
😂
The Triumph Speed 400 is slightly cheaper in India.
great review
ill keep my Speed 400 thanks🙃
While it appeared you were on pretty smooth roads, what is the suspension compliance on this bike? Lovely sound, nice looking, what's the weight?
Suspension is the good part of this 450 series compared to 650 , they're comfort oriented yet hard enough for cornering
Good review,but where has the new pronunciation of Himalayan come from, where is Hamalya🤣
That's how it's pronounced in the actual place. If you'd been you'd know that
@@brettmeikle Yep. A pretty embarrassing comment to make.
Ah, the Himalayan engine in a naked. Nice.
Great looking bike. Not sure how these young people you mention will see it, but I'm sure plenty of middle aged retro enthusiasts like me will be putting their orders in. Can't see that purple number selling well though, it's awful! 😂 Love the blue and white, but the black/red/yellow will probably be top trumps. 👌🏻
Looks dope ❤
I could use one of those, probs black and yellow. I'm not too keen on combined lights, they can be hard to see.
It wouldn't be rocket science to change ’em… AliExpress is your friend. There's masses to choose from.
I wonder if the lack of centrally-located rear and brake light would be illegal in some countries
Ask BMW. That is standard on the new GS.
It occurred to me that this bike sits approximately where the Japanese 450 bomber was 60 years ago 😮 The bomber produced marginally more horses at 43 (claimed), slightly less torque at 27.6 (claimed), it weighed in at a similar 187Kg dry and was similarly frugal at 65mpg. Progress huh 😂 I’d bet the Honda was a great deal smoother.
Doubt it.
It's as much about emissions these days as anything else. I'll bet my house to a brick that the RE has better "green" credentials that the old CB's. That said, I also know which one I'd prefer.
I never ride a motorcycle on a motorway , boring is boring . A and B roads are fun
Still think the 11ltr tank is too small, why not 15ltr?
I like the bike a lot on screen that is.
Hope to see it soon in th showrooms
Question: what is the topspeed of the 450 guerilla ?
Some body?
170-180kmph
The way you say Himalayan is like finger nails down a chalkboard.
he's saying it the way the locals do
Maybe locals outside of India @@specialcircs
Locals say he-mAA-layan, internationally they say he-mah-layan, this reviewer said huh-mA-layan. If u think its annoying,
know that its as wrong as the international one. So fix urs before picking on him.
I used to sell Royal Enfield bikes for a living. He is pronouncing Himalayan correctly.
Put centerstands on all of your bikes RE!
I like it.....but not as much as the triumph... the enfields styling just looks a little...off... it's nearly there, but looks like it's trying too hard.
Where is that magical looking cathedral in the background?
That's the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona... Amazing cathedral to visit if you get the chance
@@MarcHeimbigner thanks. It looks out of this world, surely would plan to visit once
All the bikes are UK registered when will we see them on UK roads?😊
This month
Can you tell me what it weighs?
181kg
Never heard of Shower forks before.
showa forks
@@MegaVistaman
Oh thanks, yet he said Shower.
@@keepitreal1547 british accent
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Triumph speed twin 400 ?
Looks like a Ducati Scrambler at a glance
I think it would be cool if it was like an 800 v twin
Not the point of this motorcycle.
You just jumped into 12k motorcycle
@@starrider1900 it's the point of middleweights though.
@@CS-pl8fc800cc isn’t middleweight…
@@Nico-mi2pr depends on what kind of 800. The Ducati scrambler is 803cc and makes 70 something hp. That's a middle weight. A 450 making 40 hp is not a middle weight. It's an A2 beginner bike
Why the assumption this is for novice riders?
Relatively cheap, Indian made 450 single, doesn’t quite have the same ring. The little Fantic weighs 150Kg with similar power and, in my view, looks far more individual, but you pay a premium for it. Have Triumph, or RE really moved the game along ? They both make a more competitively priced motorcycle, but both are much heavier. The first thing many do is to look at ways of reducing weight, increasing the power, or making it more individual-all at great cost. The Himalayan was both interesting by design, oddly capable both off and on road and cheap to boot, but this just looks like ‘we made one too’ it hardly exciting in the way of the new Aprilia 457, the CF Moto 450, or the 4 cylinder Kawasaki. It’s not a Honda 400 four, or a 350LC. It’s strangely depressing to realise that this bike stirs any excitement, I can’t remember much being said about a Honda Benly.
Indian Enfield vs Indian Triumph? Hmmm Honda yes!
"Needs thrashing". Yeah, you lost me at that point. Defo not my sort of bike.
It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike slow.
What is the tester's inside leg?
About 19"
I feel like mt-03 or xsr-300 sort of bikes are the rival, actually.
Those are seriously light wheels.