Boss CHANGED MY MIND on Chorus (This Pedal is UNREAL)
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00:00 Intro
03:00 Buying the Pedal
04:19 The First Test
07:26 Reevaluating Everything
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The super chorus is a gem. I played west coast gigs for years and always had one.
Now at the studio we have at church one of my guys brought one in and I fell deep for it again.
The Boss Stereo Chorus is my go-to modulation. It has the same sound as the Super from the Mono output but put at the end of the effects chain and into a stereo amp rig or into the board the guitar spreads out beautifully.
A properly set chorus, is the most useful modulation. Chorus is great for adding depth, and movement to clean chords, in any type of music, I use it all the time. I recently tried the tone city angel wing chorus, it sounds amazing for the price.
It’s more useful than most people realize, and not even just for clean stuff, the metalcore band Knocked Loose uses this same chorus pedal to make their breakdowns even bigger and more disgusting sounding.
I have 3 different marked settings that have varying depths and man it’s real good at any setting. I use a boss ce-5 and it’s very nice!
You mean a flanger. It does chorus, phase and other things and a lot of the most famous recorded sounds of modulation effects were actually done with a flanger.
Man it’s so nice to see the exact moment the lightbulbs start going off mixing the chorus with distortion(i think) and definitely seen some improvement with those tasty improv mike Cole licks
The colour coordination was a nice touch.
Thank you for sharing your musings on the chorus pedal. It's been fun to watch your vids. Great articulation of your ideas and to see your passion for music. Sweet to hear about your involvement on your local church's worship team!
You are a fantastic guitar player. I admire your work.
it's been on my pedalboard since 1994, I love how it sounds clean and distorted, it's always on, I also have the CE5 and CE2, and other choruses from various brands, but for me the chorus is BOSS
what about small clone? what do you think of that pedal?
Yep absolutely agree. After trying many boutique chorus pedals I landed on the Boss Super Chorus. Love it.
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One of the first pedals I ever owned (and still own) is a Chorus by "Spectrum" and since then I always have to have a chorus. I love chorus.
Now I use a Flanger (Deluxe Electric Mistress), Chorus (Small Clone & BOSS CE-5 by means of the Digitech CF-7) and finally Tremolo (EHX Stereo Pulsar) I'm a grunge head so they go part and parcel with it.
This was a really fun video, Mike! Keep the interesting ideas flowing! Music and technique is fantastic 😊. Bob from Spokane Valley, WA USA
Love your tone and technique. Started with an mxr distortion and went into various phaser, flanger and wah effects. At the end of the day now, I’m usually straight in with my boss echo and that’s it. You can really mod your sound using only a high quality echo by itself. I know, wtf. Nicely done Mike.
Boss CH1 is one of the few pedals ever present on my board for the past 20 years. Cheers from Rio!
Hi Mike! that strat is amazing! Beautiful sound.
I've used the same Small Clone for going on 10+ years now. It's never failed me gig after gig. It also has its own character which allows the pedal to play well with other guitarists using their modulation of choice.
My favorite "modulation" effect often comes back to an analog delay set for a sort of chorus effect if it has a modulation section. The malekko 616 can do many things well as a workhorse Delay, but it has a level control internally which opens up clean boost abilities, and it has such a fast delay time possible that you can dial in flangey shimmery chorus sounds and a lot of modulation depth available to make it "wide". It has some of that boss dimension sound to it when done right. It also has a great strident defeatable buffer available that not only makes my guitar sound better but seems to neutralize other signal related or unwanted noises on my pedalboards. This kind of modulation can be treated like a double tracker if the modulation is not an available feature- allowing you to kinda cop that effect on the opening guitar of the Fixx's 'One thing leads to another' riff.
I love a keeley tri mod for instant chorus and vibrato and phaser or flanger tones - but it's more satisfying to coax sounds out of an analog delay and surprise people that ask what flanger that was.
Two final mentions: the Wilson effects Haze Vibe is among the best vibrato and uVibe and phase sounds I've ever used. The mr. black tunnelworm can be coaxed into beautiful harmonic vibrato sounds and is just a magical and hard to place effect, that I cannot recommend enough.
… the Purple Rain intro man… very nice brother
I have a MIJ Boss Chorus from the late 1980s, its always worked well since new and has been my "go-to" ever since.
I received the CE-2w waza craft for Christmas and I absolutely love it. Beautiful lush chorus tone.
Just got a Dimension C Waza craft! i’m excited
Really nice video.
My sentiments exactly.
A light, slow phaser for rhythm works for me.
My journey into absolutely loving chorus is a wild one - I had an electronic drum kit and a USB mic stolen in the middle of a move, so I posted on Facebook about it and my friend had a spare USB that he reached out and gave me. He also said he was selling his Julia chorus, but I wasn't into it due to the price point. I had never even considered adding chorus to my board, but then I started researching cheaper options for the effect - the moment I heard the $40 Joyo Analog Chorus (likely a copy of BOSS' CH-2), I was transported to the 80s in the best way. I have two of those pedals now, just in case. My band's sound went from Americana Folk/Punk to Indie / Post-Punk. I've also bought the same Super Chorus you have, but I keep that one in my room. That dang ol' Joyo is just incredibly simple to get the tone I want, and if anything happens to my board at a gig, it's incredibly replaceable. Simply put, that chorus pedal is just about always on. It is, instantly, a VIBE. I still love Jack White-esque fuzz rock, but it's way more important, for the sound I want, to stack overdrive on top of chorus a la The Police or Mac DeMarco. Chorus has changed my worldview so much that I don't even have a fuzz on the board currently. I started using that Joyo toward the end of recording my band's album (The Stupid Reasons), but our next record is going to sound entirely different - way less folky and way more indie/new wave? simply because of chorus. It unlocked something within me, man.
My favorite is my MXR Uni-vibe. I love that 60s psychedelic tone, especially from Leslie speakers, so it definitely captures that type of modulation. Definitely use it for Hendrix style blues-rock, but I’m also applying to other places like Bachata
vibe is what's up! there is sooo much you can do with one. it does alot more than just robin trower/hendrix sounds. it's also my main mod effect too.
Good stuff. I'm really glad I recently discovered this channel.
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I have an old CE-2. Sounds nice for clean chords. It got a lot of use live.
Ever since I started learning to play in 1995, the chorus generator has been the most essential modulation device for me, from one source or another. My first amplifier was a Princeton Chorus, and its chorus generator was aces in my book. About six years later when I got a Rockman X100, its own chorus section was easily one of its highlights. I've also purchased various Zoom and Line 6 devices, most of which have modeled their chorus circuitry on what was pioneered in 1975 by Roland in the making of the JC-120. My current pedalboard is the boss ME-80, and the chorus circuit in it is primo. I imagine that it is basically a condensation of what was in the 120 and the Boss Chorus Ensemble. I'm on my delation sources, it's the one that I don't think I could live without. I switch between different ones at different moments, but I always come back to this one. I also use it for nearly every genre of music I'm trying to play.
During the early 2000s, I plugged into an Electro Harmonix Small Stone phase shifter. That was a killer paddle, and I probably shouldn't have Let It Go. The standard is the MXR Phase 90, but what would be neat is if you could procure a Small Stone and do a demo of it, Mr. Cole.
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Great video!!! Thanks for sharing.
If you get bored enough to run a stereo amp setup and put the chorus in just one of those lines so you get a dry blend with it, it can be a nice widening effect overall, but where this gets interesting is if you severely eq your guitar signal before it hits that chorus line, so that the chorus only affects the frequencies you feed it - super fat or super thin or scooped or whatever, and then your full dry mix is going to another amp - you now get to swim in stereo and really dial in which range of the guitar is getting chorused. I think it's fun to get a twinkly modulation going on the upper frequencies and lean out the muddy frequencies, and then the dry low end of the other amp is going to stay intact, with the dancing chorus on just your treble freqs. The alternative might be leaving your upper range dry and making the chorus only affect the low frequencies of the wet path, or ultimately just voice it where our ears are happy. But I think this allows you to alter the flavor of your chorus pedal and find a unique tone that we aren't as familiar with.
My boss CH-1 is one of my favorite pedals
I use it to split to a mesa dual rectifier stack and a Marshall stack
The effect itself also sounds great
On my main board I have a Fender hammertone chorus. It can be a bit darker than other pedals which I like. But what I really like is the level control that lets you blend in clean signal. I usually set it 70% clean / 30% chorus, so it's more subtle. On my church board I have a TC chorus that also has a mix knob, and I also set it for about 30% effect. The only other modulation that I use is univibe. I have a couple that also have a mix/blend knob and I run it very subtle also.
Yes Mike. Yes. This is my favourite pedal of all time. I’ve been waiting.
I've never been interested in modulation pedals. But recently I bought the CH-1 (by Boss) and a Phaser (by Fire Custom). Today I can say these pedals never will leave from my pedalboard. The Ch-1 is so good for soloing (plus overdrive/distortion) and rhythm (plus compressor sometimes). I'm amazed. It sounds pro.
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More Good Stuff Mike! Used it a lot when I was touring with bands in the 80s. That was the sound back then. It still is very usable in some rhythm playing, but don’t really care for it on Lead Tones!
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Nice. Great sound. Great job.
Distortion is fine but its kinda thin, so when you add chorus it just gives it fullness without going all wobbly
chorus is my favorite guitar effect ever. it started with hearing come as you are and then i got into the cure and i just fell in love
I bought one of these a month or so ago cause I didn’t have a chorus, I love it, one of my new favorite pedals, easily.
Channel getting real good bro, keep going!
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Tremolo is my go to because it gives some movement to almost anything played without being obtrusive or stepping on anything else in the mix. I love me some chorus (my Juliana v2 is a guitar pedal that will probably be in my will) but it's easy to end up with a tone that sounds awesome when I'm at home practicing but doesn't sound right in a full band mix.
I ended up using an overdrive pedal called the Bohemian. It's fantastic on my Strat. My other pedal for recording is a Wah pedal pushed down halfway.
My favorite Chorus pedal is the Truetone H20. It's so versatile, and sounds fantastic
I'm a big fan of chorus, and I use it in two ways primarily: 1) set slow, with a moderate depth, with delay and reverb for Eric Johnson style cleans and 2) fast speed and higher depth to mimic a Leslie - excellent for blues rhythm playing if there's no keys player.
I bought a CH-1 about 6 months ago. It has not left my board since. I'm a massive fan of 80s New Wave, so it gets a ton of use. Another cool thing to do with the CH-1 is put a distortion after it. It gives it a strange sound, but it can be really cool too.
I mean, when chorus 1st was introduced, there were no fx loops in amps, so a lot of great classic sounds come into running it in the front of the amp (or drive in this case if you run a pedal for your gained up sounds). So it's not too crazy, it will sound "neater" post drive in the fx loop of the amp or post drive pedal in general. It's a more studio like approach
Dimension C.....Boss's top shelf chorus in my view...I also like the Earthquake dispatch master as a combo reverb delay that gives some real clear coloring to my sound. I run an old DOP 680 analog delay in the effects loop of my Fender Deluxe
You can make that pedal very subtle with the level knob, it's a very underrated chorus pedal.
I have the CH-1 on my 5-pedal board, after two stacked overdrives and a compressor, and just before an analog delay (MXR Carbon Copy), and the Chorus and Delay pedals are almost always left "ON." The way I do that is by having just a slap-back delay setting, and most of the Chorus knobs at 12noon settings (maybe going to 2 o'clock on the depth knob only). Then it's just a slight amount of modulation that adds a nice "warm" feeling to your signal. I often get complimented on my guitar tone (a strat or tele through a Princeton reverb), and that has much to do with the gentle settings on the Chorus and Delay pedals together. Once you get used to that sound, you can't do without both of them.
If you don't like standard chorus but would like a subtle chorusing effect try any of the Boss Dimension choruses. It gives the guitar signal some body without even a hint of overwhelming it.
Yeah, I got a DC-3 Digital Dimension at a pawn shop for $80 many years ago, it's a beautiful effect. I would love to get a hold of the DC-2w, as well.
TC Electronics have a great 3d dimension pedal too
Heptode phaser, Hughes and Kettner Rotosphere slow mode, Retro Sonic chorus, Boss DC-2W. Lots of good modulation gadgets
Other than being a reverb addict. Tremolo is my go to. Changes how I play with more dynamics. I really enjoy a dual tremolo to add tons of movement and texture
Awesome vid. As soon as you started playing at 12 o’clock, I thought Purple Rain.
Also, great guitar! And I am not just saying that because I also have an American Strat Pro II in tobacco sunburst.
I managed to get my hands on an old like og boss CE-2 years ago and I adore it
Having a Chorus pedal in your set up is essential for getting that sustaining in space sound when put in between a compressor and delay pedal.
I have a chorus on one patch for this weekend, This I Believe, other that that all script phasers. Make sure to try that pedal in stereo if you haven't already stereo lights up all mod effects
my go to is chorus, especially the boss CE. even on minimum setting it makes it sing. crank it up and it gets spooky
Refrain from using the trem arm when demoing chorus. Love all your videos.
the modelling amp i usually play on has a built in chorus effect. Even maxed out its not super prevalent. I pretty much always have it on as it adds a nice sense of depth and atmosphere, esp on cleaner tones.
I dig it. It has a bit of a 80's clear tone vibe.
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Such an honest and interesting backstory on thinking about impressions of certain effects and then realizing you can learn to use and appreciate effects you may have once considered cheesy or dated in your own way. I feel like I had a similar experience with getting to grips with using chorus myself. Cheers!
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Excellent video. I love tremelo, and I have learned to love chorus in certain contexts, but my favorite modulation pedal is the Phase 100. It can do the Jerry Garcia thing, the Waylon Jennings thing, or it can go full Eddie Hazel Funkadelic or Dean Ween craziness. It’s such a fun, funky, psychedelic gem, and more versatile then the Phase 90.
Yes! Shout out to raun quintana…in 9th grade he bought a small clone and gave me this pedal because he no longer used it… it is still my favorite pedal in my chain! The live boost it gives is 👊🏾
I remember back in 2012 when I saw this pedal and started to dream of having it. It's been on my pedalboard since then and I believe it will never leave hahaha
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the chorus sound always brings me back to the mac demarco sound
Agreed!! Got my boss chorus cheap at a music fest last year!
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Sounds like 80s new wave music. Beautiful
a super chorus was my first pedal! I got it because of the 80s British Indie sounds like the Smiths or the Bunnymen, truly a great pedal
I’ve had this one for years, it’s awesome and can be had for a good price. I have some other brand pedals, but am a huge boss fan. Boss BD-2 is another great cheap pedal!
My CH-1 is the longest full time resident of my board. I don't use it a great amount, but for when I want it, it is always just what I need. It was $45 at a pawn shop a few years ago!
I saw you talking about Frusciante in another video. You need to checkout the CE-1 or one of it's copies (PastFx). It has a built in drive, so it takes some playing around to figure out where it goes in the chain. Comes with tremolo as well.
Been watching your guitar vids for a while. Great stuff!
I mainly use chorus for big watery ringing strummed chords which is great for ballads or cool dreamy chord progressions. And definitely if im trying to play Rush or The Police etc. I usually don't like it for lead work... but, if i do, have it post distortion with a tight doubling setting sounds really bad ass for the Van Hagar sound.
I have a keyboard i hook up into a chorus pedal and into the amp and mic it up like i would a guitar. Really great haunted piano tones.
My go to: Keeley Katana clean boost, Wish Klon clone, Ts808, Q-tron, Aqua Puss delay, MXR carbon copy delay, RotoMyDyno Tri chorus, Strymon Flint, VRTX Steel String clean boost and into Boss Loop Station RC2 all in front of the amp.
Love your channel btw. I’m playing with modulation as well. I do use a reverb/delay pedal often. I’m experimenting with the Rotovibe. It has tremolo and a phaser like effect, but different. Something I might want to try. Thank you for your insight and content.
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get the fulltone vibe, the mdv-3. i've tried almost all the vibes out there. that's the one that sounds the best. vibe is definitely the coolest of effects
I love all kinds of modulation on keyboard and synth, but on guitar, mostly tremolo, envelope filter or phaser. With keyboard I like LFO fx that give me a rhythm to play along to, but with guitar, I play differently, and I'd rather use a drum machine for that.
I got the Boss DC-2W and it's oh so sweet to make a mono signal into wide stereo, though. I don't have any of their other chorus pedals.
Excellent.
Just got this pedal at the local guitar center for $75. Changed my mine as well. So sick
bubbletron. flanger, phaser and step filter. everything i need.
Mike - the Harmonic Tremelo is where you need to be!!
I don't own an electric, but listening to different combos, I love Chorus with a bit of Fuzz.
Im probably the same age as your dad. I learned how to play the guitar and Bass between 1981-82. Im a junkie for a lot of early-mid 80's new wavey type music along with the original alternative rock music. For alternative rock music the golden age IS the 1980:s. Most of the original alternative rock music didn't get played on the radio. Plus all the original Punk Rock. The Chorus and Flanger was used quite a bit in the 80's as you probably know. I have a few Boss pedals including Flanger and Chorus. If you want to hear some good chorus and Flanger music from the early 1980's check out a band called "Wire Train', and song called "Chamber of Hello's' in particular.
I’m in helix land and the retro reel vibrato is amazing
JHS Tidewater Trem is my favorite bar none. Phase 90 is a close second. Coppersound Polaris chorus is a favorite for sure.
Almost any modulation, I set the mix and rate low so it’s subtle and creates more space. When the rate is fast, I have a tendency to overplay. When it’s slow, I like to sit back and let the effect show off.
The BOSS CE-5 Chorus Ensemble is even better for just a bit more money. Worth it!
A boss chorus was one of my first pedals lol, and that goddamn Morley wah
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Always love a tremolo pedal.
My 2 favorite modulation effects are
1. phase 90 with a heavy compressor in front of it.
2. Dunlop Rotovibe
The hidden gem is the Chorus Ensemble CE-5. Same price used as the CH-1 and incredibly versatile.
My first chorus pedal. Great little stompbox. Try using on vocals. 😂Purchased along with the Boss Autowah and a Digitech Hot Rod Distortion. That was around 20 years ago at age 13.
You should try the hammertone chorus by fender. It's really good. And my favorite go to pedal changes. From like a memory man to a jhs octave reverb.
Chorus...well, in a sense, there is a continuum of time-based effects which use a modulated delay line, which are related. Chorus is 'close mod delay' whereas Flange is 'slightly close-er mod delay with feedback' and modulated delay is 'further mod delay' and many reverbs are 'multi-tap diffused mod delay'.
I've always loved modulation, and though I was initially averse to chorus, mostly what I perceived as the adult contemporary late 80s/early 90s overwrought (what I know to be tri-chorus) thing, trying an EHX Small Clone changed my mind. There is quite a bit of difference between the full-on schmoo of rack tri-chorus + MPT and some subtle analog chorus. Both do have their place, but when I use chorus live it's usually somewhat subtle. I feel like tremolo fits in more genres, but chorus can fit in anything modern, as long as you set it tastefully.
I used a boss super chorus and delay in church worked great
First I was sceptical about modulation FX in general. Then I got a Peavey VTX Classic which has a very unique sounding Phaser/Flanger on board. That got me hooked. Later I got a CH-1 and I really like it to color my clean sound, but it also works fine with dirt pedals. Now I wouldn't go gig without it because I wrote some songs for my band where Chorus is an important part of the sound. If I had to make a tier list for modulation FX Chorus would be #1, with Phaser as runner up.
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My favorite modulation effect is phaser, I have all 4 Boss phasers (PH-1 reissue, PH-1r, PH-2 and PH-3).
My favorite modulation effect is the chorus. But for space management, I'm using a dual chorus-flanger stompbox, which is not cheap.
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My go to is the VIBE. Using Danelectro Cool Cat vibe…. Sweetest sounds. Gotta put it early, before drives. It like high impedance.
You could mess around with the various modulation effects on your Katana. See what effects you find could be useful, then get a pedal for plugging into the Vox.
I came to chorus a couple years ago when I got a vintage Scholz Rockman headphone am/DI. Unmodded you had to have either reverb or chorus. I got used to chorus and ended up with an Ibanez pedal. I keep mine near the front of my chain
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The best chorus pedal is definitely the Boss CE2W but the CH1 is also a great chorus pedal. I think a lot of the the best modulation tones definitely came from the 80s and if you can find tasteful uses for modulation it’s definitely great for anyones rig
Great video! Unfortunately, it couldn't change MY mind on using chorus with guitars.
That is super bizarre because I love using it on keyboards (hook it to a Yamaha CP or a Rhodes ) and I love the natural chorus of 12-string guitars.
I use chorus when I need to add a little something. Mostly, almost primarily, on a clean tone. I do use it at least once every Sunday.
However, I do use chorus on a dirty tone when we do It’s Gonna Get Loud.
My amp has built in effects, and I use chorus at around 11 o'clock with my distortion just to have that slight bit of schnice and maybe gx6tunfqmk in my tone