That stunning moment when you realize that Astrid was in an arranged marriage with Lekain. No wonder she fell for Makarov, he is a saint compared to him!
It's sort of mentioned in one of her supports in PoR, except the English version slightly censored it (probably not realizing it'd be referenced later). But yes, now we know why she considers Makalov a saint.
I would never feel bad for Hetzel. He is just a coward, the kind of guy that never does anything bad, but never stop others from doing so, just to keep living as a wealthy and powerful senator. I felt no pity when killing him.
@@ImRubyRose350 Considering he tries to excuse the actions of his side or evade responsability in some of the conversations, it is debatable how "good" he really is
@@mrthatguyam I am kinda with you. There is a saying that evil somewhat corrupts itself over time, eating it's own offspring. The problem with ignorance, shortsightedness and stupidity is thus bigger. FE he was the only one capable and willing to do something to prevent endless deaths and stood by doing nothing. Not willing to do the right thing might be worse then actually doing bad, but that's the most interesting question about it.
Hes also still the one who bought rafiel, and while he isnt the one that abused him he also didn't do jack shit about the slave traders who did. He actually helped em, since again he did buy him. Deffo fucked up. Tho i would say not the worst
Hetzel's expression kind of saddens me, especially with the Sanaki conversation. I think he's probably the most acceptable out of the senators. Also lol Nailah's first quote with Lekain. "An you're one of the fat, corrupted pieces of filth that we're fighting" is a good way to sum up Lekain.
I know I stopped watching the Radiant Dawn playthrough a while ago, but I’ll say again that one thing I really liked about this game was the fact that the bosses had something to say to people other than the main character. Hope this comes back for Three Houses.
This is part of why I wanted to show these off. People give RD a lot of flack but I LOVE the sheer effort they went to for boss conversations. Past this game, they stopped giving special boss dialogue to everyone besides main characters, with very few exceptions. (We had things like Excellus vs Say'ri and Saizo vs Kotaro, but that was about it. The Nohrian siblings didn't even have special boss dialogue with Garon!)
I still find it weird that they put SOME non-Corrin boss conversations into Fates, like Saizo and Shura vs Kotaro, and Hinoka vs Camilla in some chapters, but didn't do logical things like give the siblings dialogue with their zombified parents. And there's NO conversation for Selena fighting Laslow on Revelation. Awakening is similar. They had a few during the Valm arc, but other than that it was just Chrom, Robin and very occasionally Lucina getting them. Donnel didn't get a boss conversation with the bandit who killed his father, for example.
@@BigKlingy With Fates I feel like they'd been doing so much already with the three games that they just figured nobody would appreciate the extra level and just see it as really extra, which to me is STILL a dumb excuse. I can't really comment on Awakening's decisions, though. I think we can expect some better boss dialogue in Three Houses though, it's not like Silent Teacher-kun will be saying much.
Damn... poor Hetzel. Somehow they made him into a stupider version of Camus. He sees us destroying our enemy army, and yet, he refuses to come join us, because he's under the delusion that the goddess wants the greater good (I mean ultimately she does, but she's so insane about it that she'll start deploying big methods) and thinks that his opposing her will result in a worse fate than to die here. I really feel sorry for the guy. If he had gotten more development as well... Oh, and yeah, his dialogue is the biggest facepalm moment in this game for me. Also Naesala redeemed himself from all his backstabbing just for that sick burn on Lekain. Absolutely glorious.
I think its important to understand that Hetzel represented what it means to be a Coward. With what authority he has, he does nothing to stand up for what is right, because he is too afraid for his own well being. No pity for the spineless. Oliver is more of a Hero than he ever could be; Oliver at least stands for something.
@@syruscoy1244 Yeah, Oliver joining Ike's army was the funniest moment in the game. Once you get Rafiel in his position, he'll come over to fight for us because he's a defender of beauty, and thus will protect the Herons and anything beautiful with his life. He's got some guts to defect and he got a good ending out of it. Hetzel represents a coward. Only fighting for forces that don't care for him, with his insecurity and fear shackling himself to them. He doesn't try to redeem himself, even when he knows something is wrong. He's self-preservation of the worst sort. And he did have influence to even be on Sanaki's side, but didn't bother to because Lekain and the Goddess were on the "winning" side. Taking only things at face value and was afraid if the consequences if he did step up against them. If he had the guts Oliver had, he'd at least begin his redemption, but he made his insecure choices and died for them.
I think one of my favorite things about boss conversations in this game is that every one of Tibarn's usually boils down to "I need to kill you so bad im shaking with excitement" 😂
Watching Lekain repeatedly realize he's screwed was so cathartic, I loved it. I think his conversation with Tibarn is my favorite, although so many of them are really good. By the way, what is the name of the music track playing in the background for Lekain's conversations? I haven't been able to find it anywhere...
Serenes Forest has it as part of the unused "alternate version" songs, but it's actually used in-game just before the Ashera fight (and I think the Deghinsea one). SF has it listed as "Stalking Menace (Short Version)" but I'm pretty sure that name is wrong.
@@BigKlingy Thanks a lot, I found it! The name feels a bit wrong, yeah, maybe that's why I couldn't find it before. And I like that track a lot, so I wanted to listen to it. Yeah, it's used before battles again Dheginsea, Sephiran and Ashera.
It's likely she temporarily reverts to her PoR characterization there... Though the fact she was once engaged to Lekain explains why she sees Makalov as an ideal man...
2:00 Insert Hetzel doing the ‘Wily Begging’-pose here. 3:30 Looks like she traded ‘Blind Obedience’ in for ‘Blind Stupidity’ and I honestly can’t tell which is worse. 5:29 And all of these conversations show that one thing is clear about Hetzel: Despite him being the only member of the Senate who has a shred of good in his heart, he ultimately is just as responsible as the other Senators for the atrocities (maybe even more if it’s true that he could’ve stopped them) due to his cowardice. 11:43 *Shudder* I honestly find that kind of talk creepier when it comes from Lekain than when it comes from Oliver. At least with Oliver you can be assured that the target of his obsession will be kept in good health. 15:44 As much as I dislike Macalov, he’d still be a better option than Lekain. Not a good option mind you, but certainly better. As for Lekain’s conversations: He’s still an absolute piece of shit and I’m glad that most characters end the conversation with a variation of “Time for you to die.” 16:08 As for Oliver… It honestly was what I expected.
2:00 That's... pretty fitting. 5:29 That's pretty much the point. I still feel bad for him, but it's true he easily could have spoken out but was too much of a coward to. 11:43 Yeah, you said it. This conversation is horrifying but at least Lekain won't live to make good on that threat. 15:44 Definitely.
Senator Hetzel, Duke of Asmin... Such a sympathetic man he was. Never in his power to resist & follows orders to the evil. Mm... 😔 "I would wish if he was ever spared in his life for another chance to live but who knows. Something like most people does either have a choice or not to betray others BC they were powerless to stop them..." Senator Lekain, Duke of Gaddos... Selfless & less remorse of a man he was. "To realize to see his liking & his position to think he was a Chosen One of the Goddess Ashera? Haa!! 😂 Arrogant & lowly person he was. What's more Satisfying R Naesala, King of Kilvas & Tibarn, King of Phoenicis got to say the last lines to give him a Chill in his Spine. Even he gets ignored like Ike, the Radiant Hero. That's what he gets to underestimate others of exploiting their weaknesses to only makes them stronger & learning better from it." Oliver, Duke of Tanas... U R very lucky in this main game & brought there in Fire Emblem Heroes which was unexpected but interesting at best for the good of.... uh... Beauties U Admired... in good health. "From a Villain to a Hero... Y M I Not Surprised? Weird but something else..."
Hey BigKlingy (thanks for all the amazing content) I have 2 questions for you. 1) Will you be playing Three Houses on the channel when it comes out? And 2) Who is your favorite of the new characters so far.
1. Yes, I said that in a video earlier. 2. Hmm..... it's actually really hard to say right now since we know so little about them. (We haven't seen any support conversations, too) From demo footage, Ashe seemed pretty cool, and his backstory has interesting potential. As for houses, I'm leaning towards Blue Lions... except I like Hilda a lot and she's the only one of the Golden Deer so far who HASN'T been confirmed recruitable...
@@BigKlingy I'm choosing Black Eagles first and I feel the same way about Mercedes and Raphael. Luckily I'm pretty sure they're both recruitable in the alternate paths. I'm really stoked for all the variety in classes and stuff. Really excited for gauntlet weapons too.
i forgot about Oliver, i am glad you saved him for the end, i was laughing for a good solid 10 minutes after the video eneded. Also, dang, Hetzel sure drew the short end of the stick, i understand why he isn't (and possibly shouldn't be) recruitable, but man does part of me wish he was, he deserves it more Oliver does and could have a much more convincing reason to be recruited.
There's unused dialogue indicating that he could've been spared at one point in development. Not sure why they decided against it in the end. Also, Oliver's boss conversations are great. And he gets more!
Hetzel is a coward who does nothing. The world could burn but so long as he could be safe, he will never stand up for what is right. He deserved his fate. Saint Oliver, guardian of Beauty, stands for something. And that is why he in the end, is considered a hero. As crazy as that is.
Hetzel is just a big coward. He knows that the Senators' plans are evil, but just can't stand against them or the Godess, so he try to do some good deeds to redeem himself, but it's just pathetic. Doing nothing to stop a evil act is the same as aproving it.
Hetzel is probably the least evil of the senate. Lekain and Valtome are unredeemable PoSs. Numida and Seliora are also douchebags, but a little less so than Lekain and Valtome. Sephiran was not a bad person, but committed a lot of evil deeds, so that's it's own debate. Oliver was... well, he is Oliver. Hetzel seems like more of a case of "Guilt through compliance."
Sure was a lot of conversating going on CONSIDERING ALMOST EVERYONE IS SILENCED AT THE MOMENT Had it not been for Michiah's sacrifice ability, this would've been a pain to deal with...
I kind of wish that Lekain learned that his ultimate goal was a failure from the start right before dying. His justice would have felt more satisfying to me if that happened.
He kind of always was. In his supports with Ike in PoR, he says that punching Oliver in the face in that one cutscene actually broke all the bones in his hand. (Since Herons are so fragile) Reyson considered that completely worth it.
I’m def a fan of moral ambiguity in fire emblem games and having like complex villains but man the way they make you hate the senators in this game I create a save state and kill them over and over with diff chars lmao.
Hetzel feels very inconsistent in his conversations; most of the time he's trying to plead forgiveness, other times he's accepting the responsibility of his actions. Pitiful, hypocritical statements from a pitiful, hypocritical man. Lekhain continues to be a bastard to the end; the fact he doesn't even consider Yune's power in the equation makes him almost comically inept right now.
"Comically inept" is the best way to describe Lekain. He falls into the FE villain archetype "the wannabe Gharnef": a usually magic-using villain who has a lot of traits of the Gharnef but isn't anywhere near the mastermind he thinks he is. Other examples are Ephidel and Darin (a rare non-mage version) from FE7 and Excellus from FE13.
@@BigKlingy Lekain is a big fish in a small pond. Very competent in manipulating events at his level, but blissfully unaware of greater forces and people manipulating and using him, especially his enemy Sephiran. Lekain thought he was using Sephiran when the opposite was actually true.
When I first played this game some 10+ years ago, I felt bad for Hetzel. At the time, he appeared to me like a good man who tried to do good but couldn't and I felt sad that I couldn't recruit him. Now though, I see him for how he really is. A man who wants others to pity him and show mercy to him. You can see it in his words as he begs for forgiveness from almost everyone that fights him. In the end, all he is doing is trying to find excuses for his cowardice, and unwillingness to stand up and out his life on the line when those around him committed morally heinous acts.
Agreed. I don't view him sympathetically anymore, and even the unused scene where you spare him still has Sanaki ordering him arrested for treason afterwards.
The Serenes Forest OST lists it as "Stalking Menace (Alternate Version)", but that's clearly not what it is. It plays just before the final chapter, right after Ike says "make peace with whatever the gods worship", from what I remember.
So this is where the channel has been gone for the past week. I was starting to miss it too. So I assume that Trails in the Sky will start directly after this one? So many Boss Conversations, in fact I think this Chapter alone has more Boss Conversations than Conquest and Birthright individually did in about 20 chapters. I wonder how many Three Houses will have and who with. I think that if Ashe’s adoptive father is fought at any time in the story then they will have a Boss conversation, I assume Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude will have ones from the other two during the War Phase. But otherwise we do not know any real connections between enemies and your characters apart from those. Although if the Death Knight/Flame Emperor turn out to be someone related to our party. Like Slyvain’s disinherited older brother for instance I can see some base conversations there. So now onto a few interesting things I want to talk about. I bought Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled, it is fun although my skill at the game leaves a lot to be desired although as a newly created Crash fan I like the characters and the settings of the game that even reference some previous levels in the game. Also got a used copy of Devil May Cry 5 although I have yet to play it but it will be fun to play as Dante again. Who I also want in Smash Ultimate although I am not holding my breath for it. I a few days ago spent a lot of orbs on the Future Past Banner and did I get any of the Focus Heroes, Nah... two of them in a row in fact so lucky me. She is so far proving to be quite useful, especially in conjunction with Mordecai since his Link skills both activate her weapons effect but his as well. Although considering my Mordecai is -Defence I will have to merge the next one I get onto him. For Three Houses I am curious, who are you considering recruiting or want to recruit from Houses other than the one you chose in Fire Emblem Three Houses during your first playthrough based on what we know so far? For me it would be characters like Raphael so that I can have a dedicated Brawler to Dorothea because I like her design and I am curious to see what she is about. Brady has also been demoted to 4-5 Star, which is nice as it means I can get him a side addition if I am summoning on colourless on a future banner rather than him being a extremely rare 5 star hero where my best chance to get him would be his next time as a focus unit. And is it just me or do they sometimes not demote some characters even though the characters do not really have any premium or unique skills apart from their weapon. For example Kaden and Velouria has very good weapons but nothing that would be considered a premium skill in their other slots, Yet both are 5 Star Exclusive. Yet later they dropped Mordecai who has a very good weapon. So for Persona 3 Royal, we have the confirmation of 3rd Tier Persona’s being back with Ryuji’s Seiten Taisei upgrading into a Persona called William, which is the first name of Captain Kidd, this new Persona even look a lot like Captain Kidd so it looks they are taking some influence from the base Persona with them maybe ending up primarily be epithets or other names for those figures, which is cool but makes me a bit worried for Makoto’s as I like that fact that Anat is essentially a Transformer and I would want her 3rd Tier Persona to remain humanoid in some form. Based on previous 3rd Tiers I assume that William will Absorb Elec and Null Fire but will still be weak to Wind based on what the elemental attributes of the Persona 4 Golden Third Tier Personas while also gaining some kind of unique skill upon evolution based on the same precedent . And for further speculation for a moment based on Kasumi being a Kouha line used and the fact that nobody gained a Nuclear or Psy Resistance on their Ultimate I feel her Personas will go Resist Bless but weak to Curse, to Null Bless and resist Psy and Nuclear but is still weak to Curse and finally Absorb Bless, Nulling both Psy and Nuclear but is still weak to Curse, that is not including the possibility of Akechi staying around and getting the same treatment which would mean either the secondary Nuclear or Psy resistances would go to him. I also wonder how you are felling about what we have heard about Pokemon Sword and Shield. I find the lack of every Pokemon in the game to be a bit of a bummer but the region is still based on my home country, I looks nice, I am interested in whatever new Pokemon they introduce and I am curious to see how the lack of certain Pokemon will effect the metagame. Like will Gliscor return to glory because Landorus is no longer around. I like to think positive here since the constant negativity within the fandom within the last 2 weeks is sort of exhausting so I try to think on the bright side of life when it comes to games. Welcome back and sorry for the long comment.
I've been working on this on-and-off for a little while and it's finally done. I've also got a bit of Sky recorded. "I think this Chapter alone has more Boss Conversations than Conquest and Birthright individually did in about 20 chapters." I know. Sad, isn't it? I have a disturbing feeling Sylvain's brother is actually the first monster we saw in earlier trailers. The beat was using the Crest Stone of his house, after all, and it's said that using a Crest without the proper bloodline has... side effects. Which means he might not be sane enough to have dialogue. (Though that doesn't mean Sylvain himself won't. Kind of like Eirika/Ephriam vs the Demon King) Nitro Fueled is pretty fun, though going for Platinum Relics in Adventure mode is a nightmare. I got Yarne, that's all I really needed. As for 3H, I REALLY want to recruit Hilda but she's the only Golden Deer who hasn't been confirmed as recruitable yet... Hmm, interesting thing with Royal. I always preferred Captain Kidd to Seiten Taisei so glad to know the pirate isn't gone now. As for Pokemon.... it's sad the fandom is basically dead now. I can't even THINK about Pokemon games anymore without getting depressed. I get that people are annoyed, but it's crazy how quickly fans turned from "genuine hype" (the Direct) to "Sonic 06-level hatred" and picking apart every little flaw in the game. I've never seen opinions turn on a game so fast before, not even with FE Fates when Conquest's story was revealed. Like, no-one was complaining about the graphics before the no-dex announcement.
BigKlingy wasn’t Slyvain’s brother disinherited because he lacked a crest entirely so I do not think that he has been turned into a monster. Said monster could be one of his ancestors though and you could get a boss conversation where he recognises the crest and comments on it. You know for a franchise that focuses on friendship and bonds the Pokemon Fanbase is certainly not focusing on those two right now. It is a miracle when I can say the Fire Emblem Fanbase is a lot more civil right. The Fire Emblem Fanbase! The Fanbase where the old and new fans have been at odds for years is like Buddhist Monks in comparison to what the Pokemon Fanbase is like right now. It is laughable if it was not so tragic. Then again I would recommend just being on the downlow until this all dies down and we get more to talk about so the conversation is not all National Dex talk. It is what a lot of Pokemon RUclipsrs were talking about during the last few weeks too so I would avoid them too until some more news comes in for them to talk about. But then again I do not like most Poketubers Content anyway so I would. Too many Top 10 with somewhat shaky reasoning or poorly explained reasoning and lack of cooperation during colabbs for my liking.
"The Pokemon fandom's negativity is exhausting" F**KING THANK YOU. I'm upset at the National Dex thing, but I'm somehow even MORE done with the legion of unyielding complaining (and burning anyone who dares give the game a chance at the stake). At least Masuda confirmed that all the Pokemon will return in future games. (Though I still might not buy the game at launch due to money purposes. I JUST got Persona 5 and I plan on getting FE Three Houses, so... yeah.)
Hmm.... maybe he tries stealing the power of a Crest Stone and it backfires on him due to lacking a Crest himself? Yeah, the FE and Pokemon fandoms have basically traded places now. Here's hoping Three Houses doesn't destroy the base like Fates did. Sigh, why aren't Pokemon RUclipsrs like Marriland a thing anymore? Ever since the big ones moved to randomizers and clickbait, Marriland's viewcount plummeted and his channel fell into obscurity despite being one of the first and still having some of the best Pokemon content out there. It's sad that such in-depth walkthroughs aren't want people want anymore. Honestly the Pokemon fanbase has got... weird lately. Like the sudden obsession with jerk rivals and burning hatred for nice ones, which kind of came out of nowhere in the last few years.
@@BigKlingy Poor Trace from Let's Go. He adopted the famous orphaned Cubone and took it to the endgame, yet people despise him for not being a jerk like Blue. (Like, you could have... ANYONE from XY's rival list do that and they'd instantly get my good graces) Cheren and Bianca from BW pretty much sum up my thoughts on the Jerk Rival thing. Because, let's be honest, Bianca is a much better character than Cheren (who I ALWAYS saw as a jerk rivial even before he murdered four Pokemon and tried to take over the world).
"The world could flip upside down and you'd still be trying to boss around gravity" As much as I love the other quotes, that's just funny.
I'd say Haar has the second best boss conversations in the game next to Ike.
It relates to many politicians, elites and rulers in the real world too
That stunning moment when you realize that Astrid was in an arranged marriage with Lekain. No wonder she fell for Makarov, he is a saint compared to him!
It's sort of mentioned in one of her supports in PoR, except the English version slightly censored it (probably not realizing it'd be referenced later). But yes, now we know why she considers Makalov a saint.
The what
Yikes
It still makes no sense, given that Makalov is far from the first guy she ever saw
Yeah but Gatrie is a God compared to Makalov
Love how he showed Tibarn getting Tear on Lekain after Tibarn says he would tear him to pieces.
AwesomeGuy6 _ Naesala’s not the only birb who has it out for him.
I normally cut the battle parts but I felt I had to show that one. It was just too fitting.
I would never feel bad for Hetzel. He is just a coward, the kind of guy that never does anything bad, but never stop others from doing so, just to keep living as a wealthy and powerful senator.
I felt no pity when killing him.
Same.
The only thing that evil wins, is that the Good men don't do anything
I'M SAYING!! It's more satisfying to kill him than Lekain
@@ImRubyRose350
Considering he tries to excuse the actions of his side or evade responsability in some of the conversations, it is debatable how "good" he really is
I do kinda feel bad for Hetzel, but yeah he's still in the wrong. He's definitely the most redeemable out of the four senators though.
He was just silenced with the silence staff...
to be fair thats a fairly low bar to clear, but yes he was the least evil of the scumbags
I'd argue he's the worst out of them.
@@mrthatguyam I am kinda with you.
There is a saying that evil somewhat corrupts itself over time, eating it's own offspring.
The problem with ignorance, shortsightedness and stupidity is thus bigger.
FE he was the only one capable and willing to do something to prevent endless deaths and stood by doing nothing. Not willing to do the right thing might be worse then actually doing bad, but that's the most interesting question about it.
Hes also still the one who bought rafiel, and while he isnt the one that abused him he also didn't do jack shit about the slave traders who did. He actually helped em, since again he did buy him. Deffo fucked up. Tho i would say not the worst
Hetzel's expression kind of saddens me, especially with the Sanaki conversation. I think he's probably the most acceptable out of the senators.
Also lol Nailah's first quote with Lekain. "An you're one of the fat, corrupted pieces of filth that we're fighting" is a good way to sum up Lekain.
I forgot how great Nailah's line was there. For the least developed of the royals she gets a few really good boss conversations.
Yea
Nailaih and the dragon king’s conversation is very touching.
Each of the rulers taking to the dragon king are great conversations
I know I stopped watching the Radiant Dawn playthrough a while ago, but I’ll say again that one thing I really liked about this game was the fact that the bosses had something to say to people other than the main character. Hope this comes back for Three Houses.
The series needs more boss Quotes TBH.
This is part of why I wanted to show these off. People give RD a lot of flack but I LOVE the sheer effort they went to for boss conversations. Past this game, they stopped giving special boss dialogue to everyone besides main characters, with very few exceptions. (We had things like Excellus vs Say'ri and Saizo vs Kotaro, but that was about it. The Nohrian siblings didn't even have special boss dialogue with Garon!)
@@BigKlingy I think that's because The next two games were Archanea remakes and Fates was VERY Corrin-centric in it's writing.
I still find it weird that they put SOME non-Corrin boss conversations into Fates, like Saizo and Shura vs Kotaro, and Hinoka vs Camilla in some chapters, but didn't do logical things like give the siblings dialogue with their zombified parents. And there's NO conversation for Selena fighting Laslow on Revelation.
Awakening is similar. They had a few during the Valm arc, but other than that it was just Chrom, Robin and very occasionally Lucina getting them. Donnel didn't get a boss conversation with the bandit who killed his father, for example.
@@BigKlingy With Fates I feel like they'd been doing so much already with the three games that they just figured nobody would appreciate the extra level and just see it as really extra, which to me is STILL a dumb excuse. I can't really comment on Awakening's decisions, though.
I think we can expect some better boss dialogue in Three Houses though, it's not like Silent Teacher-kun will be saying much.
I love the sheer disbelief that Hetzel and Lekain express when fighting against Oliver!
E-4's boss is just as funny in that regard, in a really dark way.
@@BigKlingy Tellius is unraveling at the seams.
To be fair, anyone would stare in disbelief that they face the Champion of Beauty.
Tibarn: I can hardly believe how much fun Tearing your head off will be
Gets tear
Me:Well Tibarn was it fun
8:22 Sanaki is *DONE* with his crap.
Everyone is by now, but especially her.
Watching all the Laguz kick the crap out of Lekain is the best thing ever.
Damn... poor Hetzel. Somehow they made him into a stupider version of Camus. He sees us destroying our enemy army, and yet, he refuses to come join us, because he's under the delusion that the goddess wants the greater good (I mean ultimately she does, but she's so insane about it that she'll start deploying big methods) and thinks that his opposing her will result in a worse fate than to die here. I really feel sorry for the guy. If he had gotten more development as well...
Oh, and yeah, his dialogue is the biggest facepalm moment in this game for me.
Also Naesala redeemed himself from all his backstabbing just for that sick burn on Lekain. Absolutely glorious.
I think its important to understand that Hetzel represented what it means to be a Coward.
With what authority he has, he does nothing to stand up for what is right, because he is too afraid for his own well being. No pity for the spineless.
Oliver is more of a Hero than he ever could be; Oliver at least stands for something.
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@@syruscoy1244 Yeah, Oliver joining Ike's army was the funniest moment in the game. Once you get Rafiel in his position, he'll come over to fight for us because he's a defender of beauty, and thus will protect the Herons and anything beautiful with his life. He's got some guts to defect and he got a good ending out of it. Hetzel represents a coward. Only fighting for forces that don't care for him, with his insecurity and fear shackling himself to them. He doesn't try to redeem himself, even when he knows something is wrong. He's self-preservation of the worst sort. And he did have influence to even be on Sanaki's side, but didn't bother to because Lekain and the Goddess were on the "winning" side. Taking only things at face value and was afraid if the consequences if he did step up against them. If he had the guts Oliver had, he'd at least begin his redemption, but he made his insecure choices and died for them.
I think one of my favorite things about boss conversations in this game is that every one of Tibarn's usually boils down to "I need to kill you so bad im shaking with excitement" 😂
Everyone to Lekain : * trash garbage*
Sanaki: EXUPLOSION!!!
Watching Lekain repeatedly realize he's screwed was so cathartic, I loved it. I think his conversation with Tibarn is my favorite, although so many of them are really good.
By the way, what is the name of the music track playing in the background for Lekain's conversations? I haven't been able to find it anywhere...
Serenes Forest has it as part of the unused "alternate version" songs, but it's actually used in-game just before the Ashera fight (and I think the Deghinsea one). SF has it listed as "Stalking Menace (Short Version)" but I'm pretty sure that name is wrong.
@@BigKlingy Thanks a lot, I found it! The name feels a bit wrong, yeah, maybe that's why I couldn't find it before. And I like that track a lot, so I wanted to listen to it. Yeah, it's used before battles again Dheginsea, Sephiran and Ashera.
Where is boss quote Astrid all this game? She is better in few lines here than in the rest of the game.
It's likely she temporarily reverts to her PoR characterization there...
Though the fact she was once engaged to Lekain explains why she sees Makalov as an ideal man...
2:00 Insert Hetzel doing the ‘Wily Begging’-pose here.
3:30 Looks like she traded ‘Blind Obedience’ in for ‘Blind Stupidity’ and I honestly can’t tell which is worse.
5:29 And all of these conversations show that one thing is clear about Hetzel: Despite him being the only member of the Senate who has a shred of good in his heart, he ultimately is just as responsible as the other Senators for the atrocities (maybe even more if it’s true that he could’ve stopped them) due to his cowardice.
11:43 *Shudder* I honestly find that kind of talk creepier when it comes from Lekain than when it comes from Oliver. At least with Oliver you can be assured that the target of his obsession will be kept in good health.
15:44 As much as I dislike Macalov, he’d still be a better option than Lekain. Not a good option mind you, but certainly better.
As for Lekain’s conversations: He’s still an absolute piece of shit and I’m glad that most characters end the conversation with a variation of “Time for you to die.”
16:08 As for Oliver… It honestly was what I expected.
2:00 That's... pretty fitting.
5:29 That's pretty much the point. I still feel bad for him, but it's true he easily could have spoken out but was too much of a coward to.
11:43 Yeah, you said it. This conversation is horrifying but at least Lekain won't live to make good on that threat.
15:44 Definitely.
no pun intended but Nailia is down right savage on Leikain
Poor Leanne. I would not want to be a female heron in Begnion.
Oliver's great XD
Senator Hetzel, Duke of Asmin... Such a sympathetic man he was. Never in his power to resist & follows orders to the evil. Mm... 😔
"I would wish if he was ever spared in his life for another chance to live but who knows. Something like most people does either have a choice or not to betray others BC they were powerless to stop them..."
Senator Lekain, Duke of Gaddos... Selfless & less remorse of a man he was.
"To realize to see his liking & his position to think he was a Chosen One of the Goddess Ashera? Haa!! 😂 Arrogant & lowly person he was. What's more Satisfying R Naesala, King of Kilvas & Tibarn, King of Phoenicis got to say the last lines to give him a Chill in his Spine. Even he gets ignored like Ike, the Radiant Hero. That's what he gets to underestimate others of exploiting their weaknesses to only makes them stronger & learning better from it."
Oliver, Duke of Tanas... U R very lucky in this main game & brought there in Fire Emblem Heroes which was unexpected but interesting at best for the good of.... uh... Beauties U Admired... in good health.
"From a Villain to a Hero... Y M I Not Surprised? Weird but something else..."
Hey BigKlingy (thanks for all the amazing content) I have 2 questions for you. 1) Will you be playing Three Houses on the channel when it comes out? And 2) Who is your favorite of the new characters so far.
Oh and what house will you be choosing first
1. Yes, I said that in a video earlier.
2. Hmm..... it's actually really hard to say right now since we know so little about them. (We haven't seen any support conversations, too) From demo footage, Ashe seemed pretty cool, and his backstory has interesting potential.
As for houses, I'm leaning towards Blue Lions... except I like Hilda a lot and she's the only one of the Golden Deer so far who HASN'T been confirmed recruitable...
@@BigKlingy I'm choosing Black Eagles first and I feel the same way about Mercedes and Raphael. Luckily I'm pretty sure they're both recruitable in the alternate paths. I'm really stoked for all the variety in classes and stuff. Really excited for gauntlet weapons too.
@@BigKlingy I'm going with the golden deers
True Beauty must prevail! Should a goddess' stark world views cloud the lands in stone and mire, Oliver and his friends must rise!
i forgot about Oliver, i am glad you saved him for the end, i was laughing for a good solid 10 minutes after the video eneded.
Also, dang, Hetzel sure drew the short end of the stick, i understand why he isn't (and possibly shouldn't be) recruitable, but man does part of me wish he was, he deserves it more Oliver does and could have a much more convincing reason to be recruited.
There's unused dialogue indicating that he could've been spared at one point in development. Not sure why they decided against it in the end.
Also, Oliver's boss conversations are great. And he gets more!
Hetzel is a coward who does nothing. The world could burn but so long as he could be safe, he will never stand up for what is right. He deserved his fate.
Saint Oliver, guardian of Beauty, stands for something. And that is why he in the end, is considered a hero. As crazy as that is.
Hetzel is just a big coward. He knows that the Senators' plans are evil, but just can't stand against them or the Godess, so he try to do some good deeds to redeem himself, but it's just pathetic. Doing nothing to stop a evil act is the same as aproving it.
GET THE SALT! LETS MAKE LENKAIN SUFFER. MAKE HIK SCREAM IN HORROR AND AGONY!!! MWAHAHAHAHA
Hetzel is probably the least evil of the senate. Lekain and Valtome are unredeemable PoSs. Numida and Seliora are also douchebags, but a little less so than Lekain and Valtome. Sephiran was not a bad person, but committed a lot of evil deeds, so that's it's own debate. Oliver was... well, he is Oliver. Hetzel seems like more of a case of "Guilt through compliance."
It's interesting that there's unused text for Hetzel being spared in this chapter, which is impossible in normal gameplay since this is a Rout map.
Sure was a lot of conversating going on CONSIDERING ALMOST EVERYONE IS SILENCED AT THE MOMENT
Had it not been for Michiah's sacrifice ability, this would've been a pain to deal with...
The video was fine but the music was filler. Ok vid....
Then Beauty incarnate came....
I wanted to make sure to showcase his separately.
I kind of wish that Lekain learned that his ultimate goal was a failure from the start right before dying. His justice would have felt more satisfying to me if that happened.
Bro,they turned Reyson into a badass.
He kind of always was. In his supports with Ike in PoR, he says that punching Oliver in the face in that one cutscene actually broke all the bones in his hand. (Since Herons are so fragile) Reyson considered that completely worth it.
@@BigKlingy Yeah,but he feels much more blunt.There's even a base conversation,where Ike says that he's made of steel(compared to other herons).
I’m def a fan of moral ambiguity in fire emblem games and having like complex villains but man the way they make you hate the senators in this game I create a save state and kill them over and over with diff chars lmao.
Hetzel feels very inconsistent in his conversations; most of the time he's trying to plead forgiveness, other times he's accepting the responsibility of his actions. Pitiful, hypocritical statements from a pitiful, hypocritical man.
Lekhain continues to be a bastard to the end; the fact he doesn't even consider Yune's power in the equation makes him almost comically inept right now.
"Comically inept" is the best way to describe Lekain. He falls into the FE villain archetype "the wannabe Gharnef": a usually magic-using villain who has a lot of traits of the Gharnef but isn't anywhere near the mastermind he thinks he is. Other examples are Ephidel and Darin (a rare non-mage version) from FE7 and Excellus from FE13.
@@BigKlingy Lekain is a big fish in a small pond. Very competent in manipulating events at his level, but blissfully unaware of greater forces and people manipulating and using him, especially his enemy Sephiran. Lekain thought he was using Sephiran when the opposite was actually true.
Man, there's a lot of good boss dialogue in this game! Reyson's and Haar's have got to be my favorites.
That's why I wanted to show it all. Haar is second to Ike in terms of boss conversations.
Haar never fails to deliver a killer threat.
When I first played this game some 10+ years ago, I felt bad for Hetzel. At the time, he appeared to me like a good man who tried to do good but couldn't and I felt sad that I couldn't recruit him.
Now though, I see him for how he really is. A man who wants others to pity him and show mercy to him. You can see it in his words as he begs for forgiveness from almost everyone that fights him. In the end, all he is doing is trying to find excuses for his cowardice, and unwillingness to stand up and out his life on the line when those around him committed morally heinous acts.
Agreed. I don't view him sympathetically anymore, and even the unused scene where you spare him still has Sanaki ordering him arrested for treason afterwards.
This is how the Hardcore Edelgard fans imagine the Church of Seiros is like or how Religion works in general.
5:31 What is the name of this track? I have been looking for AGES to find it
The Serenes Forest OST lists it as "Stalking Menace (Alternate Version)", but that's clearly not what it is. It plays just before the final chapter, right after Ike says "make peace with whatever the gods worship", from what I remember.
@BigKlingy Been looking for this track too. I know it as the one that plays when Dheginsea transforms and have been trying to find it forever.
So this is where the channel has been gone for the past week. I was starting to miss it too. So I assume that Trails in the Sky will start directly after this one?
So many Boss Conversations, in fact I think this Chapter alone has more Boss Conversations than Conquest and Birthright individually did in about 20 chapters. I wonder how many Three Houses will have and who with. I think that if Ashe’s adoptive father is fought at any time in the story then they will have a Boss conversation, I assume Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude will have ones from the other two during the War Phase. But otherwise we do not know any real connections between enemies and your characters apart from those. Although if the Death Knight/Flame Emperor turn out to be someone related to our party. Like Slyvain’s disinherited older brother for instance I can see some base conversations there.
So now onto a few interesting things I want to talk about.
I bought Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled, it is fun although my skill at the game leaves a lot to be desired although as a newly created Crash fan I like the characters and the settings of the game that even reference some previous levels in the game. Also got a used copy of Devil May Cry 5 although I have yet to play it but it will be fun to play as Dante again. Who I also want in Smash Ultimate although I am not holding my breath for it.
I a few days ago spent a lot of orbs on the Future Past Banner and did I get any of the Focus Heroes, Nah... two of them in a row in fact so lucky me. She is so far proving to be quite useful, especially in conjunction with Mordecai since his Link skills both activate her weapons effect but his as well. Although considering my Mordecai is -Defence I will have to merge the next one I get onto him.
For Three Houses I am curious, who are you considering recruiting or want to recruit from Houses other than the one you chose in Fire Emblem Three Houses during your first playthrough based on what we know so far? For me it would be characters like Raphael so that I can have a dedicated Brawler to Dorothea because I like her design and I am curious to see what she is about.
Brady has also been demoted to 4-5 Star, which is nice as it means I can get him a side addition if I am summoning on colourless on a future banner rather than him being a extremely rare 5 star hero where my best chance to get him would be his next time as a focus unit. And is it just me or do they sometimes not demote some characters even though the characters do not really have any premium or unique skills apart from their weapon. For example Kaden and Velouria has very good weapons but nothing that would be considered a premium skill in their other slots, Yet both are 5 Star Exclusive. Yet later they dropped Mordecai who has a very good weapon.
So for Persona 3 Royal, we have the confirmation of 3rd Tier Persona’s being back with Ryuji’s Seiten Taisei upgrading into a Persona called William, which is the first name of Captain Kidd, this new Persona even look a lot like Captain Kidd so it looks they are taking some influence from the base Persona with them maybe ending up primarily be epithets or other names for those figures, which is cool but makes me a bit worried for Makoto’s as I like that fact that Anat is essentially a Transformer and I would want her 3rd Tier Persona to remain humanoid in some form.
Based on previous 3rd Tiers I assume that William will Absorb Elec and Null Fire but will still be weak to Wind based on what the elemental attributes of the Persona 4 Golden Third Tier Personas while also gaining some kind of unique skill upon evolution based on the same precedent . And for further speculation for a moment based on Kasumi being a Kouha line used and the fact that nobody gained a Nuclear or Psy Resistance on their Ultimate I feel her Personas will go Resist Bless but weak to Curse, to Null Bless and resist Psy and Nuclear but is still weak to Curse and finally Absorb Bless, Nulling both Psy and Nuclear but is still weak to Curse, that is not including the possibility of Akechi staying around and getting the same treatment which would mean either the secondary Nuclear or Psy resistances would go to him.
I also wonder how you are felling about what we have heard about Pokemon Sword and Shield. I find the lack of every Pokemon in the game to be a bit of a bummer but the region is still based on my home country, I looks nice, I am interested in whatever new Pokemon they introduce and I am curious to see how the lack of certain Pokemon will effect the metagame. Like will Gliscor return to glory because Landorus is no longer around. I like to think positive here since the constant negativity within the fandom within the last 2 weeks is sort of exhausting so I try to think on the bright side of life when it comes to games.
Welcome back and sorry for the long comment.
I've been working on this on-and-off for a little while and it's finally done. I've also got a bit of Sky recorded.
"I think this Chapter alone has more Boss Conversations than Conquest and Birthright individually did in about 20 chapters." I know. Sad, isn't it?
I have a disturbing feeling Sylvain's brother is actually the first monster we saw in earlier trailers. The beat was using the Crest Stone of his house, after all, and it's said that using a Crest without the proper bloodline has... side effects. Which means he might not be sane enough to have dialogue. (Though that doesn't mean Sylvain himself won't. Kind of like Eirika/Ephriam vs the Demon King)
Nitro Fueled is pretty fun, though going for Platinum Relics in Adventure mode is a nightmare.
I got Yarne, that's all I really needed. As for 3H, I REALLY want to recruit Hilda but she's the only Golden Deer who hasn't been confirmed as recruitable yet...
Hmm, interesting thing with Royal. I always preferred Captain Kidd to Seiten Taisei so glad to know the pirate isn't gone now.
As for Pokemon.... it's sad the fandom is basically dead now. I can't even THINK about Pokemon games anymore without getting depressed. I get that people are annoyed, but it's crazy how quickly fans turned from "genuine hype" (the Direct) to "Sonic 06-level hatred" and picking apart every little flaw in the game. I've never seen opinions turn on a game so fast before, not even with FE Fates when Conquest's story was revealed. Like, no-one was complaining about the graphics before the no-dex announcement.
BigKlingy wasn’t Slyvain’s brother disinherited because he lacked a crest entirely so I do not think that he has been turned into a monster. Said monster could be one of his ancestors though and you could get a boss conversation where he recognises the crest and comments on it.
You know for a franchise that focuses on friendship and bonds the Pokemon Fanbase is certainly not focusing on those two right now. It is a miracle when I can say the Fire Emblem Fanbase is a lot more civil right. The Fire Emblem Fanbase! The Fanbase where the old and new fans have been at odds for years is like Buddhist Monks in comparison to what the Pokemon Fanbase is like right now. It is laughable if it was not so tragic.
Then again I would recommend just being on the downlow until this all dies down and we get more to talk about so the conversation is not all National Dex talk. It is what a lot of Pokemon RUclipsrs were talking about during the last few weeks too so I would avoid them too until some more news comes in for them to talk about. But then again I do not like most Poketubers Content anyway so I would. Too many Top 10 with somewhat shaky reasoning or poorly explained reasoning and lack of cooperation during colabbs for my liking.
"The Pokemon fandom's negativity is exhausting"
F**KING THANK YOU. I'm upset at the National Dex thing, but I'm somehow even MORE done with the legion of unyielding complaining (and burning anyone who dares give the game a chance at the stake). At least Masuda confirmed that all the Pokemon will return in future games.
(Though I still might not buy the game at launch due to money purposes. I JUST got Persona 5 and I plan on getting FE Three Houses, so... yeah.)
Hmm.... maybe he tries stealing the power of a Crest Stone and it backfires on him due to lacking a Crest himself?
Yeah, the FE and Pokemon fandoms have basically traded places now. Here's hoping Three Houses doesn't destroy the base like Fates did.
Sigh, why aren't Pokemon RUclipsrs like Marriland a thing anymore? Ever since the big ones moved to randomizers and clickbait, Marriland's viewcount plummeted and his channel fell into obscurity despite being one of the first and still having some of the best Pokemon content out there. It's sad that such in-depth walkthroughs aren't want people want anymore.
Honestly the Pokemon fanbase has got... weird lately. Like the sudden obsession with jerk rivals and burning hatred for nice ones, which kind of came out of nowhere in the last few years.
@@BigKlingy Poor Trace from Let's Go. He adopted the famous orphaned Cubone and took it to the endgame, yet people despise him for not being a jerk like Blue. (Like, you could have... ANYONE from XY's rival list do that and they'd instantly get my good graces)
Cheren and Bianca from BW pretty much sum up my thoughts on the Jerk Rival thing. Because, let's be honest, Bianca is a much better character than Cheren (who I ALWAYS saw as a jerk rivial even before he murdered four Pokemon and tried to take over the world).
nice touch with oliver at the end. lovely
poor hetzel
It's great how the game sets up