So here’s a little bit of a fun fact about competitive Mawile in gen 3. It did not run adamant Nature, because attacking wasn’t the point of Mawile in gen 3 OU. The point of Mawile in Gen 3 OU was as part of a Baton Pass chain. These chains usually started with Ninjask for speed boost, then you’d gradually accumulate stat buffs until your last Pokemon, which was either Cradilly or Exploud, could finish the rest of the battle by itself. Mawile was a potential Defense booster for these teams. The advantage of it over something like Vaporeon was it’s bulk, being able to resist a lot of different attacks and also having Intimidate to further add to its physical bulk. It could also stay around to do a few Iron Defense boosts because it’d be passed Ingrain from Smeargle. So yeah, it’s not running Adamant Nature cause it doesn’t even have attacking moves on most sets.
You hit this one out of tf'n parking lot. I would use it in my Whirlwind spikes Spikes team's also. Switching it out time to time, just to lower AT's stats.
I have always loved Mawile's sprite. The fact it faces you makes it so much more visually interesting, such a shame it isn't very good in until it got a mega. like the design of the mega just wish it evolved instead so Mawile could be usable with evolite.
IMO I've always had a fondness for Mawile even before the Mega cause of its peculiar appearance. Stats unfortunately aren't great but like Sableye the charm makes up for that in my opinion. I have much less fondness for the other particularly weak single stages from Gen 3 like Spinda, Volbeat/Illumise, and ESPECIALLY Luvdisc cause they don't have that going for it.
The mega made it amazing and a competitive choice, Giving it fairy made it good though, You can totally use one in a playthrough it will do work, Great move pool and decent stats, I'm rather fond of the line myself so I was really stoked with the gen 6 changes, Was great to be able to pick up my snuggly murder doll, Throw it out into battle and not have it just deleted by even the ai
Mawile actually got increasingly good over time. It wasn't just bad, bad, bad and then suddenly Mega, it was actually given new tools every generation. Gen 3 Mawile was bad because half of its learnset was dark type moves which were special at the time, though it did fill a niche in competitive battles as a Baton Passer with Iron Defense. Physical-special split made most of its learnset finally usable, and gen 4 also gave it access to the elemental fangs as egg moves. Then, in gen 5, it got Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Foul Play and Iron Head as move tutor moves, giving it a much needed STAB attack and better coverage options, plus access to Shear Force as a hidden ability.
coming back to your videos after a huge bout of depression. The not saving before a fight then having to redo a gym battle Scott classic really made me smile
Mawile is my favorite Pokémon, as my RUclips icon indicates. I consider myself pretty well-versed in using it. As much as I like MDB, you did a much better job than he did in his Mawile playthrough. You considered all of Mawile's strengths and assets. Also, I'd say that Mawile's greatest weakness is not its stats, but the dreaded Four Move Slot Syndrome.
Do you know that the Sludge Bomb TM is available in the Dewford Town Hall after Norman? It's not super effective against much, but it's a good option for a physical attacker. Especially if you've got something else to deal with Steel types. Emerald also has several Move Tutors that you never bring up. Mawile could have been taught Substitute on top of the Lilycove Department store.
Mawile is a really strange Pokémon. It does not look like a Steel type but is one of the first monosteel types along with Registeel. Nothing in its art is made of metal.
Honestly it feels like Mawile should have been Ghost/Dark and Sableye should have been Ghost/Rock, that way both would also fulfil the niche in their respective versions of being an easy out to Brawly. (Would have also meant Mawile at least gets access to STAB on Bite and Crunch, as opposed to being the deadliest looking bite user with the most meagre actual bite.)
I know that in some of the older games the ai is programmed to make its move selection based on if that move will crit or land a secondary effect if used that turn. I don’t know if emerald is one of those games but it would explain torkoal using body slam.
Yeah, I think this is exactly why the Torkoal battle happened that way. Body Slam had a 100% paralyze chance so Flannery decided to paralyze you instead of Overheat. While the Overheat would have gotten the KO, the "advantage" of paralyze was what caused Body Slam, despite its extreme ineffectiveness here. And as nintai said, this even includes Crits so you can see situations of some moves being double-resisted and still chosen (even with other Super Effective moves) all because it doesn 1 more damage point with a crit. This also explains the Winnowna Pelliper using Supersonic before Protect - it knew about the perfect confusion chance. Then there was the double Protect - again, the second Protect was a guarantee (to the AI) so it went for it due to you being confused and possibly able to hurt yourself.
After seeing that Body Slam from Torkoal, I’m fully convinced the A. I. in this Generation knows the ‘seed’ for the battle. Perhaps not to the extent that the paralysis would halt your attack, but Flannery totally went for the stylish victory in that fight.
I, too, loved Mawiles design and caught it and gave up on it. Then in the remakes I was so excited to use it but I'd forgotten it was a version exclusive... had to trade for it
It's a-me! "That guy" again! I personally think you could have played this run very differently. You replaced Fake Tears with Feint Attack and I think that was an error. Mawile's most powerful moves tend to be on the special side, and, even with the difference in ATK/SPATK, I think a special build would have gotten you better results. runch on a target at -2 I think is likely to be far more damage than Secret Power, especially in the midgame. Personally, I think your optimal set would be Fake Tears and one special move, selected for upcoming fights, and to then run two physical moves, one normal-type and one for coverage. This is especially true for Steven. I think a combination of Fake Tears and Flamethrower would generally be your best bet for that fight, using Brick Break to deal with the Aggron and Cradily. An example of when this strategy would have helped you is against Phoebe. Both of her Dusclops have Pressure, which, combined with your 3HKO against them and Protect, is costing you 6+ of your Crunch PP. Fake Tears + Blackglasses would probably reduce that to a 1HKO and cut your PP usage in half or better, reducing the amount of risk involved in the battle. That said, I liked your solution to Steven. I think that was pretty smart.
Yes my favorite Pokémon getting a video. Glad it came after Sableye as they are version exclusive counterparts. This thing is amazing and it’s mega is the strongest mega imo. Glad to see it get the love it very rightfully deserves.
Wow it did...surprisingly good! I'm honestly really surprised, I expected Mawile to struggle a lot more but its movepool is surprisingly really good. This run was super well played too I think. Maybe a Rash nature in the future might be a good idea for all of those just missed Crunch KOes. The only thing I thought about while watching was whether Iron Defense was overkill and whether Stockpile was a better overall choice. You only get to use it 3 times but it does boost both Defense and Sp.Def. It's normally like...really bad though so I'm not even sure its worth it. Steven's Aggron by the way is like, really surprisingly bad. It not only has Thunder, but it also has Solar Beam and Dragon Claw. I joke to my friends that its supposed to be a "box legend killer" with Thunder for Kyogre, Solar Beam for Groudon, and Dragon Claw for Rayquaza but just like. Why. There's some pretty questionable movesets in Emerald but this one is like notoriously bad.
I think the reason it used body slam the first time was because it knew it was going to get paralysis. In some Pokemon games there is an AI quirk where it will know if a status affliction will be applied on a specific attack. It probably saw the paralysis and that's why it used body slam.
Mawile is right alongside tropius as the 2 pokemon from gen 3 that deserve an evolution the most. Both are great designs that are left in the PC for many because their stats just aren't good enough.
Great video again bud.my knowledge on Gen 3 and up and pretty low so I don't really know these pokemon but still very entertaining, now on to the next video
Aw that sucks for Mawile I've always liked that pokemons design but had the same frustrations on my team.. it's one of those Pokémon that seem to be no matter how many times you do a play through it'll never get a much better time? Another great video Scott! :D
I've been looking forward to this since you teased it in your Sableye video. I'm a fan of Mawile but I've also used an Emerald Version Mawile so I expect a fair bit of frustration using this Steel Physical attack whom lacks Steel moves and primarily learns special Dark type attacks by default. 1:45 - Brick Break and physical Sludge Bomb sound like fun options here. 3:36 - I do adore seeing which trainers you highlight during your adventure, especially when they get bestowed artwork! 9:20 - Holy heck; I did not expect even a critical hitting Ember to do that much damage. I guess I forgot that the Torchic line pretty had even (and a high even at that) in both it's offences. 14:33 - I'm not sure what I'm more surprised by; the fact that you didn't use this opportunity to give a Mawile a STAB Steel move via Hidden Power of the fact that Mawile can't be taught any Ground moves. Seeing that Flannery fight, I can certainly say you made the right choice going with a Ground type Hidden Power. 23:11 - It's rather surprising how often you attempt freezing strategies with Ice Beam... an attack with only a 10% chance to freeze. It just seems incredibly risky with rarely the pay-off to it. 25:51 - "Well, first I have to defeat Wally but he's like a giant pushover." - Ouch, the karma of that line soon struck you. 36:57 - Love the Heart Scale bit here; unexpected subject but hilarious. Rather hilarious that you ended up utilising Mawile's only Steel move in the end, especially after dismissing Iron Defence earlier on.
Mawile is based on the futakuchi-onna a japanese legends that is basically a women with a mouth in the back of its head. Mawile is such an interesting design going with a cute and scary look. The fairy type helped it out a ton with giving it actual moves to work with oh yeah and the mega that has the highest attack stat of all pokemon is okay i guess.
Totally forgot Mawille was just Steel type. I remember when I first got one I was unimpressed and just never bothered to touch Mawille after convincing myself it was Steel/Venomoth typing.
Iirc many Gym Leaders have an AI-modification that makes them use unusual moves as long as they inflict a status. So Flannery's Torcoal will only use Bodyslam VS Mawhile, if it's in a seed that guarantees paralysis.
Mawile is one of those pokemon that feel like it's a first-stage evolution instead of a single stage pokemon, but unlike some of the others that feel like that it never got an evolution. It did get a mega evolution in gen 6, which was super powerful, but then megas were removed in the subsequent generations and it went back to being useless.
so i noticed you mentioned you wanted to keep crunch for pheobe, but since its a level up move you can reteach it in fallarbor with heart scales, which are actually hidden items all over the game, and since you probably wouldnt want to reteach a move more than once, it shouldnt be much of an issue in the time department
I know I've been watching too many Gen 1 challenge runs when my thought on seeing Iron Defense is "that'll at least be good for the badge boost glitch." When you picked up the Sunny Day TM I was half expecting Solar Beam strats to go along with it, might be worth investigating for vs the Champion when you start optimizing Gen 3 runs.
You are spoiling me.... I now look forward to your videos DAILY. And when you get back to a... ya know... sustainable/normal schedule I am going to be upset LOL
"Okay, so we need a version exclusive to be the counterpart for Sableye. Instead of doing similar typing, let's do the opposite. So what's the opposite of Ghost/Dark?" "Steel?" "Perfect."
Really good run, thorouhly enjoyed the video. Ice beam plus nevermeltice is probably a 2HKO on Steven's Claydol instead of Crunch plyw Blackglasses, btw.
What's sad but interesting is that the only egg moves you could make great use of are: Swords Dance and Poison Fang. Maybe Ancient Power but breeding to have those moves together is easier said than done. But let's not forget that Mawile is known as the Deceiver Pokémon, its move pool would not be properly updated to have Iron Head until the next generation over at level 56 (man they really make you work hard for that move). They would better balance it once it gained the Fairy Typing instead making Iron Head at level 36. Hyper Cutter is probably best since it has decent enough defense and most Pokémon sent out on turn one aren't even physical attackers in later parts of the game.
What's really interesting about Mawile's odd level up learnset for its type is that the moveset makes (almost) perfect sense given it's inspiration is a yokai (whose name I forget and am not looking up right now) with the form of a woman whose long hair is a second mouth. What's weird is that it's a steel type instead of dark. I've never understood that choice, especially since they didn't bother to give mawile an offensive steel move. Granted, this is the same team that made 2 Water/Dark purely physical attackers.
Mawlie's design is really cool ,especially with the emerald sprite . The sad part is that it's a steel type without excess to stab ,and above all it's a slow physical attacker .🤔But you teach it some great moves, it depends which kind of Mawile would you like , because it can go in 2 paths : one, a full special attacker with sets like sunny day, flamethrower(or solarbeam or ice beam or crunch), fake tears and substitute or sludge bomb if you want more variety, or two, a stalling Mawile with iron defense, swagger(can be taught by a tutor in Slateport city, in the house where you can get the sooth bell ), attract, toxic or rest, but for that your Mawile would have to be female to be fully used .Overall that was good run , so keep up the good work!☺
I think an interesting Pokemon could be Medicham. At the start I think it can't damage Dark-types without Bide but when it gets beyond that point I think it has a chance of being quite solid.
15:57 Flannery selected Body Slam on Torkoal because she is either AI Level 7 or 8 so she understood that Mawile wouldn't have been KO'ed by Overheat so she went for Body Slam favoring a secondary effect of paralysis. AI Level 7 or higher trainers actually know when they will get a critical hit/secondary effect outcome so I bet if you kept replaying that turn by loading a save state she would select Body Slam and it would always paralyze. Norman also knew Facade wouldn't KO your Mawile so he used Counter since he could likely do more damage against you. T&L have AI Level 8 so the Xatu knows exactly how many Calm Minds it needs in order to KO your Mawile with Psychic and also explains why Solrock will always use Sunny Day before Flamethrower to try to roll for the highest damage. You'll definitely want to look at AI levels for future runs like Shedinja cause all trainers have AI Level 0 which understand which moves will do no damage to a Pokemon. Even the most basic of trainer will force switch to a Pokemon that can hit Shedinja if they have it.
The same way you feel about venomoth I felt about mawille… I never knew it’s typing… I always thought it was a dark grass type of appearance alone, validated by using flamethrower and it was super effective lol
IIRC The reason Torkoal used body slam on the first turn is that the gen 3 Al calculates damage for every move and is guaranteed to randomly select from any move that would kill. The AI doesn't know what the roll for the actual attack will end up being, so when it looked at the overheat damage, it probably rolled low in the calculation and saw that Mawile survived. There are different "levels" of AI that all behave slightly differently, but because it "survived" both body slam and overheat, it seems that Flannery's AI just randomly chooses a move at that point without really taking damage dealt into account.
When I first played Gen 3 I thought Mawile looked cool and figured it would be nice to use. After getting one and using it a little, I promptly boxed it for much better Pokemon. Over time I think they've made some improvements but when introduced it felt like an afterthought.
Mega Mawhile was always one of my favorite mons to build a team around It breaks my heart that base Mawhile is so trash and yet will probably never get an evolution because of a Mega that doesn't seem like it's ever coming back
30:12 - A sheet of stainless steel would be dented up noticeably. Steel doesn't actually become fully hailproof until you get into the abrasion-resistant alloys, and even then you need plate thicknesses.
I think it's a very cruel thing you're doing. Giving us a taste of what it's like to have a new video every day. It's going to be very hard to go back to how things were when this month comes to an end 🥺
Oh, oh! Regarding Pelipper's Protect, I saw a video explaining some Gen 3 A.I. quirks the other day! IIRC, "Good A.I." will prioritize support Moves on Turn 1, but the turn counter doesn't tick past Turn 1 until the player has used an attack/damage-dealing move. Runners exploit this to set up on this "first turns", allowing them to sweep. Maybe there's something like that happening when succumbing to confusion, where whatever logic led it to choosing Protect persists until you manage to Do Anything?
I'm playing through DD Gale of Darkness right now and one of my staple team members has been Pearl (like pearly whites) the Mawile due to her having Sing and False Swipe once purified, golden for softening up shadow Pokémon to snag. That was when I noticed how much gamefreak apparently hated Mawile in gen 3 due to the movepool and stats.
I did a steel-type only run of Emerald and I found Mawile to be useful as a swords dance + baton passer. Including intimidate that means by the end of the second turn, you have an opponent with -1 and your pokemon of choice at +2, even though you need to breed for swords dance
12:32 I'd hope your first critical hit against the Magneton was a critical hit. Also Wattson is the Electric Gym Leader Gen 1 Surge wishes he could be.
The first gym vs Nosepass using Fake Tears once would have likely resulted in saved time because that lowers Sp. Def 2 stages. Have not seen the rest of the video to see if you fixed that in a more optimized run or not.
Against Roxxane you could have used fake tears against nosey mc nose nose to lower its sp. def. since bite is special. It would have likely taken less time to take it out.
Mahille is actually based on a yoaki called Futakuchi-onna. It's a woman with a second mouth on the back of her head that uses her hair as arms to feed itself. Fun fact. :)
Astonish also has a chance to flinch, though. Regarding the first battle against Flannery: Gen 3 AI is well known to cheat, running the calculations for what will happen if it selects a move before selecting the move, best exemplified by using evasion strategies against a Pokémon that has an always-hit move that wouldn't otherwise be the best move--the AI will select the better move only if it's going to hit. It's not infallible, as it runs the damage calculations for the protection and then a second time when it actually selects so it can sometimes think that a move is a valid option for a KO because it got a high roll and then not get that high roll and you'll survive. So what must have happened was that Flannery determined that you'd just barely survive an Overheat at full health (since the AI always prioritizes a KO), but Body Slam would paralyze. The next turn, the chip damage from Body Slam put you in range to be KO'd by Overheat.
When you have Serena draw the art for that Poochyena trainer, may I recommend having him and his Pokemon look almost comically intimidating? I think that would be pretty funny for its irony.
Torkoals Overheat was a roll, that's the only way she could use Body Slam. The Ai (at least for boss battles) simulates all attacks on the moveset, if on KOs it will take it every time, but it simulates with a random damage roll and they can get a different roll on the actual attack.
Cars take less damage then plain steel panel take from hail even in IRL Main reason for it is that Cars have a protective layer over the substrate its made from. However without this protective layer plain steel does get damaged by ice/snow. So "plain" steel types being damaged by ice does really make sense.
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So here’s a little bit of a fun fact about competitive Mawile in gen 3. It did not run adamant Nature, because attacking wasn’t the point of Mawile in gen 3 OU.
The point of Mawile in Gen 3 OU was as part of a Baton Pass chain. These chains usually started with Ninjask for speed boost, then you’d gradually accumulate stat buffs until your last Pokemon, which was either Cradilly or Exploud, could finish the rest of the battle by itself.
Mawile was a potential Defense booster for these teams. The advantage of it over something like Vaporeon was it’s bulk, being able to resist a lot of different attacks and also having Intimidate to further add to its physical bulk. It could also stay around to do a few Iron Defense boosts because it’d be passed Ingrain from Smeargle.
So yeah, it’s not running Adamant Nature cause it doesn’t even have attacking moves on most sets.
You hit this one out of tf'n parking lot. I would use it in my Whirlwind spikes Spikes team's also. Switching it out time to time, just to lower AT's stats.
12:36 “This time my first critical hit against the Magneton does get a critical hit.”
He’s confused, but he’s got paralysis also.
I have always loved Mawile's sprite. The fact it faces you makes it so much more visually interesting, such a shame it isn't very good in until it got a mega.
like the design of the mega just wish it evolved instead so Mawile could be usable with evolite.
IMO I've always had a fondness for Mawile even before the Mega cause of its peculiar appearance. Stats unfortunately aren't great but like Sableye the charm makes up for that in my opinion. I have much less fondness for the other particularly weak single stages from Gen 3 like Spinda, Volbeat/Illumise, and ESPECIALLY Luvdisc cause they don't have that going for it.
The mega made it amazing and a competitive choice, Giving it fairy made it good though, You can totally use one in a playthrough it will do work, Great move pool and decent stats, I'm rather fond of the line myself so I was really stoked with the gen 6 changes, Was great to be able to pick up my snuggly murder doll, Throw it out into battle and not have it just deleted by even the ai
If Mawile just tegular evolved, it might still be relevant.
Mawile actually got increasingly good over time. It wasn't just bad, bad, bad and then suddenly Mega, it was actually given new tools every generation. Gen 3 Mawile was bad because half of its learnset was dark type moves which were special at the time, though it did fill a niche in competitive battles as a Baton Passer with Iron Defense. Physical-special split made most of its learnset finally usable, and gen 4 also gave it access to the elemental fangs as egg moves. Then, in gen 5, it got Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Foul Play and Iron Head as move tutor moves, giving it a much needed STAB attack and better coverage options, plus access to Shear Force as a hidden ability.
coming back to your videos after a huge bout of depression. The not saving before a fight then having to redo a gym battle Scott classic really made me smile
The only downside to Gen 3: no type-changing Venomoth 😞 it is soooooo surprising that they were able to code that feature in gen 1 and 2…. 👀
Good thing the feature finally came back in gen IX
I think that feature was a bug. Really poisoned the game if you ask me.
It’s like Scott was a psychic to see where Pokémon the franchise would be flying to.
Join me in the quest to discover the true type of Steven's Armaldo, then!
I swear there’s a similar one in this game, maybe armaldo? I like the idea of finding one each gen
Mawile is my favorite Pokémon, as my RUclips icon indicates. I consider myself pretty well-versed in using it. As much as I like MDB, you did a much better job than he did in his Mawile playthrough. You considered all of Mawile's strengths and assets. Also, I'd say that Mawile's greatest weakness is not its stats, but the dreaded Four Move Slot Syndrome.
A pokefan of taste 👌Mawile is my 3rd favorite pokemon
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MDB is awesome! I haven’t watched his video on Mawile, I should check it out.
Do you know that the Sludge Bomb TM is available in the Dewford Town Hall after Norman? It's not super effective against much, but it's a good option for a physical attacker. Especially if you've got something else to deal with Steel types.
Emerald also has several Move Tutors that you never bring up. Mawile could have been taught Substitute on top of the Lilycove Department store.
Haha the days of when Sludge Bomb and Shadow Ball were the TM's you slapped on Physical attackers
The worst thing about Mega Mawile existing is that it means Mawile will probably never get any more love.
the worst thing about mega mawile existing is that it doesn't anymore
Scott’s been spoiling us with all the uploads lately. Keep up the great work my guy
Mawile is a really strange Pokémon. It does not look like a Steel type but is one of the first monosteel types along with Registeel. Nothing in its art is made of metal.
My guess was always the teeth.
Honestly it feels like Mawile should have been Ghost/Dark and Sableye should have been Ghost/Rock, that way both would also fulfil the niche in their respective versions of being an easy out to Brawly.
(Would have also meant Mawile at least gets access to STAB on Bite and Crunch, as opposed to being the deadliest looking bite user with the most meagre actual bite.)
@@BloodfelXBite would've been entirely useless in this gen anyway since y'know
It was special.
I know that in some of the older games the ai is programmed to make its move selection based on if that move will crit or land a secondary effect if used that turn. I don’t know if emerald is one of those games but it would explain torkoal using body slam.
Yeah, I think this is exactly why the Torkoal battle happened that way. Body Slam had a 100% paralyze chance so Flannery decided to paralyze you instead of Overheat. While the Overheat would have gotten the KO, the "advantage" of paralyze was what caused Body Slam, despite its extreme ineffectiveness here.
And as nintai said, this even includes Crits so you can see situations of some moves being double-resisted and still chosen (even with other Super Effective moves) all because it doesn 1 more damage point with a crit.
This also explains the Winnowna Pelliper using Supersonic before Protect - it knew about the perfect confusion chance. Then there was the double Protect - again, the second Protect was a guarantee (to the AI) so it went for it due to you being confused and possibly able to hurt yourself.
Bro you gotta be makin like 60k a year at dis point. You goin crazy wit da uploads (back to rewatch cuz i love dis video)
Love this back sprite thanks for the content Scott and team!
After seeing that Body Slam from Torkoal, I’m fully convinced the A. I. in this Generation knows the ‘seed’ for the battle. Perhaps not to the extent that the paralysis would halt your attack, but Flannery totally went for the stylish victory in that fight.
I, too, loved Mawiles design and caught it and gave up on it. Then in the remakes I was so excited to use it but I'd forgotten it was a version exclusive... had to trade for it
This is legitimately my favorite pokemon. Thank you so much Scott.
It's a-me! "That guy" again!
I personally think you could have played this run very differently. You replaced Fake Tears with Feint Attack and I think that was an error.
Mawile's most powerful moves tend to be on the special side, and, even with the difference in ATK/SPATK, I think a special build would have gotten you better results. runch on a target at -2 I think is likely to be far more damage than Secret Power, especially in the midgame.
Personally, I think your optimal set would be Fake Tears and one special move, selected for upcoming fights, and to then run two physical moves, one normal-type and one for coverage. This is especially true for Steven. I think a combination of Fake Tears and Flamethrower would generally be your best bet for that fight, using Brick Break to deal with the Aggron and Cradily.
An example of when this strategy would have helped you is against Phoebe. Both of her Dusclops have Pressure, which, combined with your 3HKO against them and Protect, is costing you 6+ of your Crunch PP. Fake Tears + Blackglasses would probably reduce that to a 1HKO and cut your PP usage in half or better, reducing the amount of risk involved in the battle.
That said, I liked your solution to Steven. I think that was pretty smart.
Yes my favorite Pokémon getting a video. Glad it came after Sableye as they are version exclusive counterparts. This thing is amazing and it’s mega is the strongest mega imo. Glad to see it get the love it very rightfully deserves.
Wow it did...surprisingly good! I'm honestly really surprised, I expected Mawile to struggle a lot more but its movepool is surprisingly really good. This run was super well played too I think. Maybe a Rash nature in the future might be a good idea for all of those just missed Crunch KOes. The only thing I thought about while watching was whether Iron Defense was overkill and whether Stockpile was a better overall choice. You only get to use it 3 times but it does boost both Defense and Sp.Def. It's normally like...really bad though so I'm not even sure its worth it.
Steven's Aggron by the way is like, really surprisingly bad. It not only has Thunder, but it also has Solar Beam and Dragon Claw. I joke to my friends that its supposed to be a "box legend killer" with Thunder for Kyogre, Solar Beam for Groudon, and Dragon Claw for Rayquaza but just like. Why. There's some pretty questionable movesets in Emerald but this one is like notoriously bad.
Stockpile doesn't raise defenses this gen, that was added in gen 4. Found it out while doing a nuzlocke
I think the reason it used body slam the first time was because it knew it was going to get paralysis. In some Pokemon games there is an AI quirk where it will know if a status affliction will be applied on a specific attack. It probably saw the paralysis and that's why it used body slam.
Earliest I've been to a video love your growth duderino
Duderino - I remember those days!
Mawile is right alongside tropius as the 2 pokemon from gen 3 that deserve an evolution the most. Both are great designs that are left in the PC for many because their stats just aren't good enough.
Scott…. Fake tears vs Nosepass, Magneton! It’s always worth using it once as -2 is equal to doubling your special moves power!
Greatest blunder of this run was never once using fake tears. It would have made wattson so much more consistent and a few other battles a bit easier
Great video again bud.my knowledge on Gen 3 and up and pretty low so I don't really know these pokemon but still very entertaining, now on to the next video
21:44 Calling a Magikarp "Bruno" is hilarious. ^^
Aw that sucks for Mawile I've always liked that pokemons design but had the same frustrations on my team.. it's one of those Pokémon that seem to be no matter how many times you do a play through it'll never get a much better time? Another great video Scott! :D
You could say everyone had their backs turned on Mawile, but Scott didn’t. He knew the potential of the Maw.
I've been looking forward to this since you teased it in your Sableye video. I'm a fan of Mawile but I've also used an Emerald Version Mawile so I expect a fair bit of frustration using this Steel Physical attack whom lacks Steel moves and primarily learns special Dark type attacks by default.
1:45 - Brick Break and physical Sludge Bomb sound like fun options here.
3:36 - I do adore seeing which trainers you highlight during your adventure, especially when they get bestowed artwork!
9:20 - Holy heck; I did not expect even a critical hitting Ember to do that much damage. I guess I forgot that the Torchic line pretty had even (and a high even at that) in both it's offences.
14:33 - I'm not sure what I'm more surprised by; the fact that you didn't use this opportunity to give a Mawile a STAB Steel move via Hidden Power of the fact that Mawile can't be taught any Ground moves. Seeing that Flannery fight, I can certainly say you made the right choice going with a Ground type Hidden Power.
23:11 - It's rather surprising how often you attempt freezing strategies with Ice Beam... an attack with only a 10% chance to freeze. It just seems incredibly risky with rarely the pay-off to it.
25:51 - "Well, first I have to defeat Wally but he's like a giant pushover." - Ouch, the karma of that line soon struck you.
36:57 - Love the Heart Scale bit here; unexpected subject but hilarious. Rather hilarious that you ended up utilising Mawile's only Steel move in the end, especially after dismissing Iron Defence earlier on.
Mawile is based on the futakuchi-onna a japanese legends that is basically a women with a mouth in the back of its head. Mawile is such an interesting design going with a cute and scary look. The fairy type helped it out a ton with giving it actual moves to work with oh yeah and the mega that has the highest attack stat of all pokemon is okay i guess.
ohh thanks for the information i'd never figure that out 🙃
"Why the rivals have magneton?, its awful" - proceeds to be defeated by rivals magneton.
I've never actually seen Mawile's back sprite before! So cool!
all this years i did not realize that mawile is standing backwards and this venusthing hangs on his backhead 🤪
Bro I can not keep up with these uploads. Hahah glad to have em! My drives are way better
Totally forgot Mawille was just Steel type. I remember when I first got one I was unimpressed and just never bothered to touch Mawille after convincing myself it was Steel/Venomoth typing.
Poochyena the gatekeeper, what an effective lil bastard
Iirc many Gym Leaders have an AI-modification that makes them use unusual moves as long as they inflict a status. So Flannery's Torcoal will only use Bodyslam VS Mawhile, if it's in a seed that guarantees paralysis.
Mawile is one of those pokemon that feel like it's a first-stage evolution instead of a single stage pokemon, but unlike some of the others that feel like that it never got an evolution. It did get a mega evolution in gen 6, which was super powerful, but then megas were removed in the subsequent generations and it went back to being useless.
so i noticed you mentioned you wanted to keep crunch for pheobe, but since its a level up move you can reteach it in fallarbor with heart scales, which are actually hidden items all over the game, and since you probably wouldnt want to reteach a move more than once, it shouldnt be much of an issue in the time department
I've learned there locations now
You can also take them with THEFT near the Pokémon league, by fishing for Luvdis. They are unlimited that way.
I know I've been watching too many Gen 1 challenge runs when my thought on seeing Iron Defense is "that'll at least be good for the badge boost glitch." When you picked up the Sunny Day TM I was half expecting Solar Beam strats to go along with it, might be worth investigating for vs the Champion when you start optimizing Gen 3 runs.
Love the gen 3 content! Keep it coming :)
You are spoiling me.... I now look forward to your videos DAILY. And when you get back to a... ya know... sustainable/normal schedule I am going to be upset LOL
Mawile was the MVP in my first nuzlocke almost a decade ago. Fake tears and ice beam were an insane combo that gave me the breaking power I needed
"Okay, so we need a version exclusive to be the counterpart for Sableye. Instead of doing similar typing, let's do the opposite. So what's the opposite of Ghost/Dark?"
"Steel?"
"Perfect."
You say "polish off" a lot. I like the consistency
Really good run, thorouhly enjoyed the video. Ice beam plus nevermeltice is probably a 2HKO on Steven's Claydol instead of Crunch plyw Blackglasses, btw.
"I'm on a boat, which is fun."
DON'TCHU EVUH FORGET!
What's sad but interesting is that the only egg moves you could make great use of are: Swords Dance and Poison Fang. Maybe Ancient Power but breeding to have those moves together is easier said than done. But let's not forget that Mawile is known as the Deceiver Pokémon, its move pool would not be properly updated to have Iron Head until the next generation over at level 56 (man they really make you work hard for that move). They would better balance it once it gained the Fairy Typing instead making Iron Head at level 36. Hyper Cutter is probably best since it has decent enough defense and most Pokémon sent out on turn one aren't even physical attackers in later parts of the game.
What's really interesting about Mawile's odd level up learnset for its type is that the moveset makes (almost) perfect sense given it's inspiration is a yokai (whose name I forget and am not looking up right now) with the form of a woman whose long hair is a second mouth. What's weird is that it's a steel type instead of dark. I've never understood that choice, especially since they didn't bother to give mawile an offensive steel move. Granted, this is the same team that made 2 Water/Dark purely physical attackers.
are you counting carvanha & sharpedo separately or is there one i'm forgetting
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Mawile is really cute!! ccc:
Also, as per usual, bug love!! c:
Mawlie's design is really cool ,especially with the emerald sprite . The sad part is that it's a steel type without excess to stab ,and above all it's a slow physical attacker .🤔But you teach it some great moves, it depends which kind of Mawile would you like , because it can go in 2 paths : one, a full special attacker with sets like sunny day, flamethrower(or solarbeam or ice beam or crunch), fake tears and substitute or sludge bomb if you want more variety, or two, a stalling Mawile with iron defense, swagger(can be taught by a tutor in Slateport city, in the house where you can get the sooth bell ), attract, toxic or rest, but for that your Mawile would have to be female to be fully used .Overall that was good run , so keep up the good work!☺
I love the videos, keep up the great work!
It would've been great to see Mawile vs. Sableye, but I know you're busy with all your videos.
I think an interesting Pokemon could be Medicham. At the start I think it can't damage Dark-types without Bide but when it gets beyond that point I think it has a chance of being quite solid.
I really liked the layout for today!
15:57 Flannery selected Body Slam on Torkoal because she is either AI Level 7 or 8 so she understood that Mawile wouldn't have been KO'ed by Overheat so she went for Body Slam favoring a secondary effect of paralysis. AI Level 7 or higher trainers actually know when they will get a critical hit/secondary effect outcome so I bet if you kept replaying that turn by loading a save state she would select Body Slam and it would always paralyze. Norman also knew Facade wouldn't KO your Mawile so he used Counter since he could likely do more damage against you. T&L have AI Level 8 so the Xatu knows exactly how many Calm Minds it needs in order to KO your Mawile with Psychic and also explains why Solrock will always use Sunny Day before Flamethrower to try to roll for the highest damage. You'll definitely want to look at AI levels for future runs like Shedinja cause all trainers have AI Level 0 which understand which moves will do no damage to a Pokemon. Even the most basic of trainer will force switch to a Pokemon that can hit Shedinja if they have it.
Where are you getting this info from? Debugging?
The same way you feel about venomoth I felt about mawille… I never knew it’s typing… I always thought it was a dark grass type of appearance alone, validated by using flamethrower and it was super effective lol
"next im on a boat, which is fun" love it lol
Wow Mawile did way better than I expected, awesome.
Never loved mawile until super mystery dungeon, she carried me through some rough bits… 😀👌
Mawile is such a classic it deserves the spotlight!
IIRC The reason Torkoal used body slam on the first turn is that the gen 3 Al calculates damage for every move and is guaranteed to randomly select from any move that would kill. The AI doesn't know what the roll for the actual attack will end up being, so when it looked at the overheat damage, it probably rolled low in the calculation and saw that Mawile survived. There are different "levels" of AI that all behave slightly differently, but because it "survived" both body slam and overheat, it seems that Flannery's AI just randomly chooses a move at that point without really taking damage dealt into account.
When I first played Gen 3 I thought Mawile looked cool and figured it would be nice to use. After getting one and using it a little, I promptly boxed it for much better Pokemon. Over time I think they've made some improvements but when introduced it felt like an afterthought.
I think Breloom will be the best grass-type. I love Mawile’s design!
Who else here while the title still says Mawille
Fixed
Yay, Mawile! I love it, even though it's trashy before receiving the fairy type :)
Mega Mawhile was always one of my favorite mons to build a team around
It breaks my heart that base Mawhile is so trash and yet will probably never get an evolution because of a Mega that doesn't seem like it's ever coming back
Poor Serena.
Scott: I hate this guy and his Poochyena, Serena draw me at for him.
Serena: Really Scott it's just a Poochyena!
Love Mawile, it's my favourite pokemon... so sad that megas aren't a thing anymore.
Well if it helps there are rom hacks that give her an evolution.
It's cool that it knows thunder. Mixing both physical and special moves gives it more variety. Almost Godzillaesque
30:12 - A sheet of stainless steel would be dented up noticeably. Steel doesn't actually become fully hailproof until you get into the abrasion-resistant alloys, and even then you need plate thicknesses.
I think it's a very cruel thing you're doing. Giving us a taste of what it's like to have a new video every day. It's going to be very hard to go back to how things were when this month comes to an end 🥺
Tbh, 6 gens later, I still love this little thing. Shame it is still a pain to use in playthroughs.
I cant wait till you do a playthrough with Aggron. Easily my most favorite Gen 3 Pokemon. Mawille is in the top 5 as well.
Same here, one of my all time favorites and I love sable too
this time my first critical hit against the magneton actually gets a critical hit
Oh, oh! Regarding Pelipper's Protect, I saw a video explaining some Gen 3 A.I. quirks the other day! IIRC, "Good A.I." will prioritize support Moves on Turn 1, but the turn counter doesn't tick past Turn 1 until the player has used an attack/damage-dealing move. Runners exploit this to set up on this "first turns", allowing them to sweep. Maybe there's something like that happening when succumbing to confusion, where whatever logic led it to choosing Protect persists until you manage to Do Anything?
Interesting. I need to look into this more!
I'm playing through DD Gale of Darkness right now and one of my staple team members has been Pearl (like pearly whites) the Mawile due to her having Sing and False Swipe once purified, golden for softening up shadow Pokémon to snag. That was when I noticed how much gamefreak apparently hated Mawile in gen 3 due to the movepool and stats.
2nd pokemon I ever caught on Emerald and it was soooooo good I loved this wee asswhooper
I did a steel-type only run of Emerald and I found Mawile to be useful as a swords dance + baton passer. Including intimidate that means by the end of the second turn, you have an opponent with -1 and your pokemon of choice at +2, even though you need to breed for swords dance
Mawile is my Venemoth. Especially since the situation was further vexed by me owning Sapphire and not Ruby
I think Flannery chose Body Slam because I think the AI knew it would paralyze before selecting its move.
Mawille huh? Sounds like a phallic pokemon design. Is it some secret evolution of Mawile?
I had no clue what it was supposed to be until like a year ago
I always thought it was inspired by Beetlejuice until recently Tbh
I think the AI knows when it will get critical hits and extra status conditions on moves. That is why Aggron went for Earthquake.
17:20 ah, the proven 'old school jrose' technic, noice.
12:32 I'd hope your first critical hit against the Magneton was a critical hit.
Also Wattson is the Electric Gym Leader Gen 1 Surge wishes he could be.
Obviously it shoots Ice Beam out of that icy _glare_ it's casting.
The first gym vs Nosepass using Fake Tears once would have likely resulted in saved time because that lowers Sp. Def 2 stages. Have not seen the rest of the video to see if you fixed that in a more optimized run or not.
Against Roxxane you could have used fake tears against nosey mc nose nose to lower its sp. def. since bite is special. It would have likely taken less time to take it out.
Great video buddy!
Thanks!
Mahille is actually based on a yoaki called Futakuchi-onna. It's a woman with a second mouth on the back of her head that uses her hair as arms to feed itself. Fun fact. :)
Astonish also has a chance to flinch, though.
Regarding the first battle against Flannery: Gen 3 AI is well known to cheat, running the calculations for what will happen if it selects a move before selecting the move, best exemplified by using evasion strategies against a Pokémon that has an always-hit move that wouldn't otherwise be the best move--the AI will select the better move only if it's going to hit. It's not infallible, as it runs the damage calculations for the protection and then a second time when it actually selects so it can sometimes think that a move is a valid option for a KO because it got a high roll and then not get that high roll and you'll survive. So what must have happened was that Flannery determined that you'd just barely survive an Overheat at full health (since the AI always prioritizes a KO), but Body Slam would paralyze. The next turn, the chip damage from Body Slam put you in range to be KO'd by Overheat.
Noctowls for the blood god. Dennis for the Skull throne.
When you have Serena draw the art for that Poochyena trainer, may I recommend having him and his Pokemon look almost comically intimidating? I think that would be pretty funny for its irony.
18:58 it’s definitely shooting ice out of its icehole… 😂
I would have personally gone with intimidate. The ATK cut can provide invaluable in some scenarios.
Torkoals Overheat was a roll, that's the only way she could use Body Slam.
The Ai (at least for boss battles) simulates all attacks on the moveset, if on KOs it will take it every time, but it simulates with a random damage roll and they can get a different roll on the actual attack.
Cars take less damage then plain steel panel take from hail even in IRL
Main reason for it is that Cars have a protective layer over the substrate its made from.
However without this protective layer plain steel does get damaged by ice/snow.
So "plain" steel types being damaged by ice does really make sense.
I always loved the Thumbs up Geodude for LIKE AND THE CHIMECO for the Noti
Hey, it's been a MAWHILE since you used this Pokémon 😂