15:00 Actually, the reason you're not outspeeding Wattson's team now is because of the Macho Brace. Yes, it doubles the amount of EV's you earn... at the cost of cutting your current Speed in half. I love Wallace's Team Intro, where most of his team shows up normally, then Wailord falls in like "BEEG!" Finally regarding Steven, I love that you use the Weather Trio theme for his fight. I'm not sure if Armaldo will be the Venomoth of Gen 3, but its actual typing is Rock/Bug.
Miror B is not in Stadium but in Pokémon Colloseum. Sorry, couldn't focus on the video without mentioning that. Good game indeed. I got it because it has easier access to the Legendary Beasts and Johto Starters (I am very lazy).
Hey Scott, I don't know if it was said anywhere before but in Emerald, the pokenav has the match call feature, allowing you to rebattle some trainers like in GSC. The difference is you don't actually have to call them or look at the nav to engage the rebattle. I suggest looking up a full list of rebattle trainers, like the triathlete on the route west of Mauville City and Wattson
This only starts working after the 5th (?) badge. I only learned this recently, thinking they were somehow tied to the dried up battery (because they never happened for me)
Teaching Rock Smash makes your life waaaaaay easier against Magneton. Allows you to equip the cheri berry to waste one of Magneton's turn's, and after a defence drop you'll be doing real damage. Don't really need all 4 move slots on Ludicolo for a really long time and you can delete Rock Smash in Lilycove.
Yeah, like I mentioned Ludicolo doesn't really need the four move slots. Ludicolo is fine to run rock smash/surf/ice beam/return until the Giga Drain TM which is on the way to Lilycove already. You'll still have a grass move for rock types until you get surf, and you don't need grass moves between Norman and Winona for any battles. It might even be useful against Norman to dodge some healing turns by getting defence drops.
Hey Scott, Don’t forget about the power of the TM thief in gen 3. You can pick it up in Slateport from an Aqua grunt. Over half the Pokédex can learn it and it should be really helpful for some mons in boss fights where you need to heal and prevent the opponent from healing!
Yeah and if he skips the rich kid and Lady trainer outside of Petalburg and comes back later I think they hold a nugget, so he could steal those for extra money if he’s running low for any reason.
Hey Scott, I am liking the new stat layout for this generation but I hope you keep the older one for your Yellow runs it matches the old school feel. Keep up the great videos!
Teaching Rain Dance for Phoebe is likely the best way to go about the matchup. It exploits her tendency to use Protect on the first turn, thus not wasting extra PP. Rain Dance would also help against Steven. Based on damage rolls, Rain would push them into OHKO range.
It's not the greatest option, but Rock Smash would have made Watson's Magneton and Norman a little easier. Plus you can delete it in Lilycove, just before the "7/10 Too much water" part of the run. P.S. - Brick Break is given to you by a NPC just for talking to him in Sootopolis. It's a great move against Steven.
Looks like this is another case where starting with the unevolved base pokemon would make the game much easier, since Lotad and Lombre's level-up moves would be REALLY helpful.
Hopefully we can see Ludicolo again in a vs against Shiftry. Great vid as always! Love to see your progress at learning new generations. Also I do hope you have seen Ludicolo’s look in the live action Detective Pikachu movie. I’m sure you’ll love it 👌
This is my favorite channel on RUclips, Generation 3 is my favorite (barely above 1 and 2) Pokemon generation, and it’s my birthday! I was very happy to see this upload. Thanks for all that you do Scott!
First of all it was a great playthrough, very exciting! The HUD at first was a bit overwhelming but you get used to it very soon and it was also great to see the stats change like in Gen 1. The animations are great and lovely for the big battles, you should give them all the props❤ I'm very excited to see soon more of gen 3!!
It used to be even more overwhelming. I'm trying really hard to visually tune it to be a bit less overwhelming. Glad you got used to it quickly though! That's good feedback.
I love Ludicolo man. At first when I saw Lotad I was like oh that’s kind of cute but I didn’t catch one since I already had a Grass-type (Treecko.) Then your rival has a Lombre and I genuinely didn’t know what I was even looking at. Then I saw Ludicolo and fell in love. The thing is just a stroke of genius. I wish very much that it’s pre-evolutions reflected the pineapple mariachi duck kapa dancing lily pad yōkai it turns into. To top it all off it’s not bad and has a couple of niches it excels in. The fact it’s got Rain Dish AND Swift Swim alone puts it heads above other Pokémon. Very happy you’re covering it man.
2 quick notes for future reference. If I'm not mistaken holding the macho Brace drops your speed, which is why you got outsped when you were faster before. And using secret power to paralyze slaking is not good, because facade is stronger if you have a status condition. So basically gave it a stronger stab move.
I'm actually playing Sapphire with only bugs right now. The beginning was a slog, and Wattson was a nightmare, but many pokemon in the team get actually pretty decent later in the game because of their tm movepool. It's definitely much better than gen 1 with only bugs.
@@corhydrae3238 there’s a lot of fun options but the base stats on everything besides heracross/pinsir is so low it’s hard to use as just bug types. Volbeat and ninjask setup is almost mandatory
@@wilbert3842 Armaldo's got decent stats, it just evolves rather late unfortunately. I find Masquerain to be rather useful. 100 base SpA, 80 base Spd and access to moves like Bubble beam, Ice beam and Giga drain. And Intimidate. I did the same run in Firered btw, and I think that one would be impossible if Scyther didn't exist.
regarding why you weren't outspeeding in that one fight: i believe you forgot to unequip the macho brace. it is great for getting evs, but it halves your speed in battle
This is my favorite mon in gen 3! This going to be interesting seeing that Ludicolo has one of the worst learn sets in gen 3. I did a Seedot and Lotad Only run of Emerald because of MDB, so I can sympathize with this one in particular. Cause that was a very memorable run in that it scarred me for live. I hope you picked something like HP Electric for Milotic and Tentacruel cause Giga Drains will not be sufficient.
28:46 Ah I see, so Pelipper is the next Emerald run, confirmed right there. Oh and it is funny that I had a similar experience with Ludicolo as you. Hated it as a child when playing Emerald, but I gave it a chance and used it on my team when I played Alpha Sapphire. It was a monster and now I like it quite a bit.
I think your nature was a good choice, both stab types are Spc. Atk. so raising it is a no brainer. NOT lowering your Atk. was also good so you can use coverage moves like Nature Power Swift.
Yeah - lowering an attacking stat in a solo challenge feels off to me. Unless you can get through everything with only physical / special moves. But that requires a very perfect movepool.
Fun fact: in later generations, things are so heavily minmaxed that you can, in fact, get away with raising one attack stat and lowering another with the proper nature.
Thanks for reminding me of when I first played gen 3 and picked Treecko, Watson was the bane of my existence lol I gave up and went and trained a Makuhita just to finally beat him.
Tbh, starting ludicolo as a lotad would likely improve its results via level up moves. And I think it'd be fun to try and see how the hyper heal set of rain dish, leftovers, leech seed and giga drain would perform.
A suggestion if we return to Ludicolo is actually to teach Rock Smash to Ludicolo for both Wattson and Norman. It is an HM, but thankfully, the Move Deleter is in Lilycove City, which is remarkably early for a Pokemon game and means it won't constrict your moveset all too much. Rock Smash is Ludicolo's best option against Magneton. Yes, it is only 20 BP, but after SE it is 40, which is more than a 5-hit Bullet Seed, and it has a 50% chance to reduce the opponent's Defense by 1 stage, which means it scales rather quickly. This also would make Slaking a lot easier, since a Defense drop or two would allow Return to deal a lot more damage and defeat the Slaking at a much higher damage range. This was a really good video though! I think the choice of nature was really good, Rash is a pretty strong choice. One thing to keep in mind though is that EVs work a lot differently than Stat EXP, I'm sure you probably know that, but the result is that solo playthroughs are a lot harder from Gen III onward. Stat EXP lets you raise all of your Pokemon's stats at the same time, but EVs piecemeal it and give you less stats overall. As a result, Pokemon are weaker, less bulky, and slower in Generation III than they would be in previous generations. It's a system that's also basically impossible to min-max early on without a lot of tedious grinding. So...something to keep in mind is that you will probably need to train more to get the levels needed to offset that change. There's not a whole lot more I can think of regarding Generation III. They're remarkably simpler games at their core than Generation I or II imo.
Steven is such a unique wall to certain Pokémon that when you start ranking Pokémon, it might be more fair to count their league completion time and Steven time as separate metrics. Can't wait until you catch up on everything and read my comment next year! We appreciate your hard work, don't forget to take care of yourself.
I think the villain team is a lot longer in emerald but it’s also a lot less tedious, better written, and just more fun. It makes sense within the story of the game where team rocket in gen 2 feels like an afterthought after the slowpoke tails thing.
Good video, i do love our pineapple duck buddy. :) A couple of ingame things that might help ya: keep on the back of your mind the potion ranges for pokemon like ludicolo who are not sweepers. There are quite a few difficult trainers here, (like watson) where you could actually manipulate the battle so that he might not get to super potion his magneton. Because of his lower attack, a +atk nature would help make the first 5 gyms much easier.
Scott I’m still watching all your videos and I am very happy to see some gen 3 challenges, like johto also hoenn has a lot of mons that need your help because they were under appreciated or misunderstood, they are waiting for you 😜
I love Ludicolo and in the regular runs I pair it with Swampert to have good coverage and the Surf/Dive split into two active pokemons. I think that in solo runs Ludicolo is really held back by its terrible moves until you have Surf available.
As someone who always played Sapphire, I can confirm that not only is it faster, but Archie's quips about how he wants to make the BEST WATERPARK EVAR make it fly by. He's a 78/10 villain, not enough water.
Ludicolo is such an underrated Pokémon. It's typing plus stage 2 stats should help it. I think Scott will fix some mistakes from the Swampert run and we should these runs gradually improve. With held items and abilities I think we might see some really cool things come out of these gen 3 runs.
The fact that Lotad, my second-favourite Hoenn Mon in terms of looks*, was a version-exclusive, was the only regret of asking for Ruby for Christmas as a child. * My favourite looking Hoenn Mon is Kecleon.
Scott: "it's Ray-qway-za, idiots" Also Scott: "Wish-cash" "seal-o" Looks like you're really getting the hang of these gen Juan runs now mate Good video as always!
Okay so Armaldo is the running gag here? Nice that one of the mon I like so much is getting some attention! ^-^ Also very nice video again, I look forward to the next Emerald challenge Maybe something less watery like a playthrough with the Aggron line? Also one of the best and most common stradegies in Gen 3 is a Sub Punch set Substitute and Focus Punch is such a strong combination in that Gen Edit: for a potential Aggron nature would be Adamant, giving it really high attack stats
Hmmm you did have some poor TM management in this one, had the choice of ice beam or brick break for super effective damage against the cradily but was left with neither. Still, very entertaining video thank you! Love seeing more Hoenn on the channel even if it does take longer to play and you cant optimise it yet
It’s really strange. He really does prefer safer tactics when the later gens beyond Gen 2 generally make it so that you can just get by with attacking moves. I mean, this generation trend is probably not strictly true for all Pokémon but the point is movesets diversify up to Generation 7.
@Sasha's Scribbles TM management is a bit beyond me right now. I don't know the game quite well enough to anticipate exactly where I'm going to need them. I also forget that I can re-buy Ice Beam in the Game Corner.
Hey Scott, I have an interesting idea for a video- 2 walkthroughs with the same pokemon, but one mon has perfect EVs, IVs and best nature from the start and other one with normal (or even suboptimal) stats/nature and no intentional EV training during the play through. I've always wondered how much better such perfect pokemon would fare during normal gameplay. Plus this would show viewers why professional players spent so much time breeding perfect pokemons for tournaments.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon That's awesome to hear and I can't wait to watch this video when it comes out! Thank you for reading and replying to so many comments under your videos 😊
Ludicolo is great pokemon, even though as a kid I hated that thing, because of it's typing and it's smile was kind of looking too silly for me at the time. 😄 That run was well played overall, you've been improving a lot ever since your Swampert run, which is really good! 😊(and by the way the new overlay looks sick! I really liked how timer, nature, and moves were presented. Maybe you should include in the stats section, the bonus that the chosen nature is giving you) The reson why you don't have a stab move on Ludicolo, is that it's a stone evolution pokemon, so you'd get a water move, if only you would evolve it throughout the run. But the moves that this linr of evolution gets isn't the best. Having hydro pump, and water sport are not the best options, so running with it fully evolved was the best choice you could do. Also having thief for Norman could have helped you to steel the slaking's sitrus berry, and use that to heal your ludicolo. (you can find the thief tm at the slatport museum. You need to talk to an aqua grunt to get that), by the way you can use protect to make the slaking an easy one shot, every time its trying to attack you, so keep that in mind whenever you'd do an emerlad run. Also for Flannery, always use a female pokemon, to negate her attract attacks. And also for her use thief to steel the torkoal's white herb(the white herb is making her torkoal heal the stat drops that it takes due to overheat, so it can have a maximum power stab move that is boosted by the sun) , or use Hidden power ground/water, because her pokemon don't have a great special defence, so a stab water hidden power should be enough to make her trivial.😊 And yeah, stuppolis is a great name for this awful city that makes you use dive🤭🤭🤭. Your bloopers are getting better too, so keep on making them, they always makes feel super motivated to my voice overs, so thanks for that, and thanks for making these videos to make me have a good time. 😊
I see you're doing this playthrough fully evolved Well that reminds me of something, when you do the trapinch line make sure to evolve it through the playthrough because trapinch actually looses 30 attack as it evolves into vibrava and regains it when it evolves into flygon, pretty interesting interaction
Hello Scott and Denis! I'm rooting for Mr. Sombrero since he's so goofy and happy looking! Can't make the premier, but will definitely be watching after the gym!
The "I catch myself a bruno" line had me fucking roaring lmao. Edit: Ludicolo struggles in a solo playthrough, but in a nuzlocke it's amazing as a pivot and stuff
I was going to ask if it would be easier to start with Lotad and actually get some water attacks at the cost of stats, but then I looked it up and saw it doesn't actually get those. It seems like movesets didn't really get good until gen 4. Here's an interesting idea for a race: Vigoroth vs Slaking.
Looking forward to Shiftry! It has a special place for me because it was in my original first team in Ruby. I remembered being disappointed when my Seedot evolved because I had it because he is just so cute
If you keep doing Emerald runs I would love to see a run with Slaking that isnt hampered by truant. Give it something useless for it like overgrow (assuming it doesnt learn grass moves). Comparing the real times for truant and truant-less runs would be amazing
Miror B is from Pokemon Colosseum and XD not from stadium (It would be sick to see a Challenge in those games aswell, even though i would have no idea how) Keep up the great work
When you were in a battle of attrition with Watson, you probably should've used Absorb until he was in KO range for a 3 or 4 hit Bullet Seed on the Manetric, to counter/avoid his super potions
When choosing which stat to lower with natures, you generally want to lower the stat thats already the lowest as natures change the stat based on a percentage of the base stat, so if you lower a base 100 stat, you're effectively losing 10 bst, whereas if you lower a base 50 stat, you're effectively losing only 5 bst, so you're losing less stats from the nature. Unless that lower stat is REALLY important to have at its base, you get more bang for your buck stat wise by lowering the already lowest base stat
Aaa great video, so here's a comment for the algorithm! Anyway, please make Mauville City being called 'Wally City' become a meme. ...Also, I just noticed it said I wasn't subscribed. I thought for sure I was subscribed to you!
Hey Scott, learned this from watching FlygonHG, but Winona's Pelliper will 100% of the time open with Protect making it a good time to use any set up moves or any moves you aren't going to use to conserve pp.
Oh my gosh! I'm currently up to the Norman battle...I can't believe how over levelled this thing needs to be!!! Another case of good moves being locked away behind tough battles
I have to say that I didn’t realize how long you would have to go before being able to upgrade your move set. I think Ludicolo would be improved if you started with Lombre or even Lotad. I think earlier access to better moves will make up for having less power.
Ludicolo is one of my favorite gen3 mons because of its design. It just looks so happy :D And in Colosseum, it DANCES! It's great. That said, it's always been a pain to train - even when you factor in the (meager) learnsets of its pre evolutions - and only really popped off after Norman, so I feel your pain. The addition of move power is a cool idea, but it seems it doesn't factor in STAB? That might be a good idea to add, just for completeness' sake.
Just starting the video but -SpD seems wild to me. I'd almost certainly go -Att, but if you're going to decrease one of the defenses on Ludi it should be Def.
Something I noticed about Phoebe is that Surf was doing more than 2/3 damage, so you could set up Rain Dance to give your Water moves a 1.5x boost and then OHKO her entire team. Granted that would give the first Dusclops a chance to use Curse, but you could also dodge a Protect.
For natures: When I do solo playthroughs of Gen 3, my preferred natures are: -Adamant for a fast physical attacker or a slower mon who uses phsyical attacks. -Modest for a fast special attacker or a slower mon who uses special attacks. -Jolly for a physical attacker who needs a bit of speed. -Timid for a special attacker who needs a bit of speed. -Hardy/Docile/Bashful/Quirky/Serious if the mon doesn't want to lose any stats. -I consider the minus defense/special defense natures if it's a frail and fast mixed attacker, since it would die quickly regardless. -I only use the minus speed natures for mons with exceptionally low speed, since they won't outspeed anything anyway.
Dark taking the place of poison actually makes sense. In japanese, it's actually called "evil" type, and that's why the villainous teams use them so much
Id have used a Bold nature, its one of my favorite natures tbh and would help with the types Ludi is weak to (flying, poison, bug) and a little more bulk against common physical threats like fighting and normal type. Ludicolo can use some physical attacks efficiently in R/S/E, but with the potency and coverage of ice beam, surf, and giga D, i honestly think nerfing it for a boost to def or sp attack is usually the best option for pineapple duck. But if you're ever on the fence, there are honestly some pokemon that I prefer neutral natures on, like especially in gen 3 where all types are one stat or the other. Swampert, Blaziken, and Sceptile are all good candidates for neutral natures in these games, imo
Something to note about your method for getting past spinning trainers, the issue with running by them isn't that it has more startup frames, it's that trainers that can turn will always turn towards you when you run. It's a unique mechanic to the running shoes, not shared by the bike, so it's not surprising you didn't realize.
Slowpoke guy here, unfortunate that the pink Hippo doesn’t appear on this game. (At least the part you play) Anyway, watching you play 3rd gen makes me gonna take out my old Sapphire copy and re start it
15:00 Actually, the reason you're not outspeeding Wattson's team now is because of the Macho Brace. Yes, it doubles the amount of EV's you earn... at the cost of cutting your current Speed in half.
I love Wallace's Team Intro, where most of his team shows up normally, then Wailord falls in like "BEEG!"
Finally regarding Steven, I love that you use the Weather Trio theme for his fight. I'm not sure if Armaldo will be the Venomoth of Gen 3, but its actual typing is Rock/Bug.
At first I thought he was being sarcastic with the macho brace. Then I remember who he is and that he is not experienced with gen 3 anyways.
So if you take it off does the speed go back to normal
@@selbywrightjr yes.
oh is THAT the speed reduction, I thought it just reduced your speed growth but then again i've never actually used it
Wow I didn’t know macho brace cuts speed
Miror B is not in Stadium but in Pokémon Colloseum. Sorry, couldn't focus on the video without mentioning that. Good game indeed. I got it because it has easier access to the Legendary Beasts and Johto Starters (I am very lazy).
He was great in XD: Gale of Darkness too!
@@MrZrbrownie I'll have to nab the game one day
XD is my fav pokemon game to date. I highly suggest it
I was wondering if he deliberately got it wrong (like Venemoth's typing) but I also felt the need to make a comment on it too.
Came to the comments to see if anyone had pointed that out haha
Maybe in this one Scott will see the error of his ways and admit that Ludicolo is the best gen 3 Pokémon?
A poncho and sombrero wearing lillypad duck. It's awesome.
Never liked it to be honest, even now I still don't.
Had no issues dispatching it with Butterfree what so ever
Having watched his Wattson time I'm guessing no.
@@Carson_Neiss platypus
Wait, venomoth isn't in the dex?!?
Hey Scott, I don't know if it was said anywhere before but in Emerald, the pokenav has the match call feature, allowing you to rebattle some trainers like in GSC. The difference is you don't actually have to call them or look at the nav to engage the rebattle. I suggest looking up a full list of rebattle trainers, like the triathlete on the route west of Mauville City and Wattson
This only starts working after the 5th (?) badge. I only learned this recently, thinking they were somehow tied to the dried up battery (because they never happened for me)
Teaching Rock Smash makes your life waaaaaay easier against Magneton. Allows you to equip the cheri berry to waste one of Magneton's turn's, and after a defence drop you'll be doing real damage. Don't really need all 4 move slots on Ludicolo for a really long time and you can delete Rock Smash in Lilycove.
I didn't know about the defense drop from Rock Smash, that would have made me try it out. Thanks so much for the comment. Next time! I'll use it.
The drawback is that Rock Smash is gonna be stuck with Ludicolo until it gets to Lilycove City.
Yeah, like I mentioned Ludicolo doesn't really need the four move slots. Ludicolo is fine to run rock smash/surf/ice beam/return until the Giga Drain TM which is on the way to Lilycove already. You'll still have a grass move for rock types until you get surf, and you don't need grass moves between Norman and Winona for any battles. It might even be useful against Norman to dodge some healing turns by getting defence drops.
Not like it was using Astonish anywhere. Rock Smash has a 50% chance to drop defense, anything with Serene Grace has 100%.
Hey Scott,
Don’t forget about the power of the TM thief in gen 3. You can pick it up in Slateport from an Aqua grunt. Over half the Pokédex can learn it and it should be really helpful for some mons in boss fights where you need to heal and prevent the opponent from healing!
Yeah and if he skips the rich kid and Lady trainer outside of Petalburg and comes back later I think they hold a nugget, so he could steal those for extra money if he’s running low for any reason.
@@jman12g73 The rich trainers on Route 116 (which require Cut) also have Nuggets on their two Pokémon.
This is incredibly helpful Jake. I'll try to remember and implement it. Could also be useful to search for some boosting items...
Gotta love the “learning brick break and going with a different strategy anyway” strat, great vid as always
Watching these vids of Gen3 are helping me get through PokeMMO! I never played Gen3 so I got stuck at the very beginning of the game. Thanks Scott!
Hey Scott, I am liking the new stat layout for this generation but I hope you keep the older one for your Yellow runs it matches the old school feel. Keep up the great videos!
I agree
Unfortunately, Yellow is getting updated. More of a re-skin though.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I’ll take it hopefully it won’t be too drastic lol
Teaching Rain Dance for Phoebe is likely the best way to go about the matchup. It exploits her tendency to use Protect on the first turn, thus not wasting extra PP.
Rain Dance would also help against Steven. Based on damage rolls, Rain would push them into OHKO range.
I heard the fun you were having and affection for Ludicolo in your voice! That by itself is a successful run! Thanks for another!
It's not the greatest option, but Rock Smash would have made Watson's Magneton and Norman a little easier. Plus you can delete it in Lilycove, just before the "7/10 Too much water" part of the run.
P.S. - Brick Break is given to you by a NPC just for talking to him in Sootopolis. It's a great move against Steven.
Looks like this is another case where starting with the unevolved base pokemon would make the game much easier, since Lotad and Lombre's level-up moves would be REALLY helpful.
Honestly they don't get really great moves either. Both version exclusives were pretty screwed with their moves
Mega drain and bubblebeam could have helped, the second at least against Magneton
@@omarzaragoza9173 lotad line doesn't get bubblebeam in gen 3 and they only get mega drain if you keep lotad from evolving until level 43
This run is Ludiculous.
Glad to see you back, Scott c:
Bug love! c:
Hopefully we can see Ludicolo again in a vs against Shiftry. Great vid as always! Love to see your progress at learning new generations. Also I do hope you have seen Ludicolo’s look in the live action Detective Pikachu movie. I’m sure you’ll love it 👌
This is the plan.
honestly i love all these videos. i really like your style and your commitment to makin these challenges your best! love the content!
This is my favorite channel on RUclips, Generation 3 is my favorite (barely above 1 and 2) Pokemon generation, and it’s my birthday! I was very happy to see this upload. Thanks for all that you do Scott!
Happy birthday Adnausaem. I hope you have an awesome day!
Great video! And I'm loving the emerald overlay!
First of all it was a great playthrough, very exciting!
The HUD at first was a bit overwhelming but you get used to it very soon and it was also great to see the stats change like in Gen 1.
The animations are great and lovely for the big battles, you should give them all the props❤
I'm very excited to see soon more of gen 3!!
It used to be even more overwhelming. I'm trying really hard to visually tune it to be a bit less overwhelming. Glad you got used to it quickly though! That's good feedback.
I love Ludicolo man. At first when I saw Lotad I was like oh that’s kind of cute but I didn’t catch one since I already had a Grass-type (Treecko.) Then your rival has a Lombre and I genuinely didn’t know what I was even looking at.
Then I saw Ludicolo and fell in love. The thing is just a stroke of genius. I wish very much that it’s pre-evolutions reflected the pineapple mariachi duck kapa dancing lily pad yōkai it turns into. To top it all off it’s not bad and has a couple of niches it excels in. The fact it’s got Rain Dish AND Swift Swim alone puts it heads above other Pokémon. Very happy you’re covering it man.
2 quick notes for future reference. If I'm not mistaken holding the macho Brace drops your speed, which is why you got outsped when you were faster before. And using secret power to paralyze slaking is not good, because facade is stronger if you have a status condition. So basically gave it a stronger stab move.
Noted! Thanks :)
Emerald with only bug types would be fun because there’s so many equally bad options to chose from
I'm actually playing Sapphire with only bugs right now. The beginning was a slog, and Wattson was a nightmare, but many pokemon in the team get actually pretty decent later in the game because of their tm movepool. It's definitely much better than gen 1 with only bugs.
@@corhydrae3238 there’s a lot of fun options but the base stats on everything besides heracross/pinsir is so low it’s hard to use as just bug types. Volbeat and ninjask setup is almost mandatory
@@wilbert3842 Armaldo's got decent stats, it just evolves rather late unfortunately.
I find Masquerain to be rather useful. 100 base SpA, 80 base Spd and access to moves like Bubble beam, Ice beam and Giga drain. And Intimidate.
I did the same run in Firered btw, and I think that one would be impossible if Scyther didn't exist.
regarding why you weren't outspeeding in that one fight: i believe you forgot to unequip the macho brace. it is great for getting evs, but it halves your speed in battle
Bingo
This is my favorite mon in gen 3! This going to be interesting seeing that Ludicolo has one of the worst learn sets in gen 3.
I did a Seedot and Lotad Only run of Emerald because of MDB, so I can sympathize with this one in particular. Cause that was a very memorable run in that it scarred me for live. I hope you picked something like HP Electric for Milotic and Tentacruel cause Giga Drains will not be sufficient.
28:46
Ah I see, so Pelipper is the next Emerald run, confirmed right there.
Oh and it is funny that I had a similar experience with Ludicolo as you. Hated it as a child when playing Emerald, but I gave it a chance and used it on my team when I played Alpha Sapphire. It was a monster and now I like it quite a bit.
I think your nature was a good choice,
both stab types are Spc. Atk. so raising it is a no brainer.
NOT lowering your Atk. was also good so you can use coverage moves like Nature Power Swift.
Yeah - lowering an attacking stat in a solo challenge feels off to me. Unless you can get through everything with only physical / special moves. But that requires a very perfect movepool.
Fun fact: in later generations, things are so heavily minmaxed that you can, in fact, get away with raising one attack stat and lowering another with the proper nature.
I’m increasing starting to love your content more.
Thanks ShadowSky03, I'm working really hard to make it better and better. Maybe that's contributing a bit? Either way, glad you're enjoying :)
People most likely have already said this, but Mirror B is from Pokémon Coliseum.
Also in XD gale of darkness
Thanks for reminding me of when I first played gen 3 and picked Treecko, Watson was the bane of my existence lol I gave up and went and trained a Makuhita just to finally beat him.
Tbh, starting ludicolo as a lotad would likely improve its results via level up moves. And I think it'd be fun to try and see how the hyper heal set of rain dish, leftovers, leech seed and giga drain would perform.
i really like the progressive updates to the overlay. its nice to see all the info.
A suggestion if we return to Ludicolo is actually to teach Rock Smash to Ludicolo for both Wattson and Norman. It is an HM, but thankfully, the Move Deleter is in Lilycove City, which is remarkably early for a Pokemon game and means it won't constrict your moveset all too much. Rock Smash is Ludicolo's best option against Magneton. Yes, it is only 20 BP, but after SE it is 40, which is more than a 5-hit Bullet Seed, and it has a 50% chance to reduce the opponent's Defense by 1 stage, which means it scales rather quickly. This also would make Slaking a lot easier, since a Defense drop or two would allow Return to deal a lot more damage and defeat the Slaking at a much higher damage range.
This was a really good video though! I think the choice of nature was really good, Rash is a pretty strong choice. One thing to keep in mind though is that EVs work a lot differently than Stat EXP, I'm sure you probably know that, but the result is that solo playthroughs are a lot harder from Gen III onward. Stat EXP lets you raise all of your Pokemon's stats at the same time, but EVs piecemeal it and give you less stats overall. As a result, Pokemon are weaker, less bulky, and slower in Generation III than they would be in previous generations. It's a system that's also basically impossible to min-max early on without a lot of tedious grinding. So...something to keep in mind is that you will probably need to train more to get the levels needed to offset that change.
There's not a whole lot more I can think of regarding Generation III. They're remarkably simpler games at their core than Generation I or II imo.
Let’s gooooo, Ludicolo! Great job Scott
Steven is such a unique wall to certain Pokémon that when you start ranking Pokémon, it might be more fair to count their league completion time and Steven time as separate metrics.
Can't wait until you catch up on everything and read my comment next year! We appreciate your hard work, don't forget to take care of yourself.
I think the villain team is a lot longer in emerald but it’s also a lot less tedious, better written, and just more fun. It makes sense within the story of the game where team rocket in gen 2 feels like an afterthought after the slowpoke tails thing.
Love the videos, that Crawdaunt part got me though. "I don't want to have to knock it out with Surf" *uses Ice Beam which is less damage*
Good video, i do love our pineapple duck buddy. :)
A couple of ingame things that might help ya:
keep on the back of your mind the potion ranges for pokemon like ludicolo who are not sweepers. There are quite a few difficult trainers here, (like watson) where you could actually manipulate the battle so that he might not get to super potion his magneton.
Because of his lower attack, a +atk nature would help make the first 5 gyms much easier.
Scott I’m still watching all your videos and I am very happy to see some gen 3 challenges, like johto also hoenn has a lot of mons that need your help because they were under appreciated or misunderstood, they are waiting for you 😜
Ludicolo is best boi can’t wait to see how you improve his run next time!
I love Ludicolo and in the regular runs I pair it with Swampert to have good coverage and the Surf/Dive split into two active pokemons.
I think that in solo runs Ludicolo is really held back by its terrible moves until you have Surf available.
Ludicolo is a sentient pineapple duck. The leaves on top of a pineapple are called the crown, so Game Freak made it into a literal crown.
As someone who always played Sapphire, I can confirm that not only is it faster, but Archie's quips about how he wants to make the BEST WATERPARK EVAR make it fly by. He's a 78/10 villain, not enough water.
Man, being para-fused by Wattson's Magneton is one of my first memories of a Pokemon rage-quit in my life.
Ludicolo is such an underrated Pokémon. It's typing plus stage 2 stats should help it. I think Scott will fix some mistakes from the Swampert run and we should these runs gradually improve. With held items and abilities I think we might see some really cool things come out of these gen 3 runs.
I genuinely look forward to each new video of these challenge runs. Something relaxing about repairing a computer watching Pokemon stuff. 🤣
Agreed! Watched some Jrose and put a new PSU in my computer today :)
Man I loved Ludicolo as a kid, even when facing it as an enemy. Its design was just hilarious!
The fact that Lotad, my second-favourite Hoenn Mon in terms of looks*, was a version-exclusive, was the only regret of asking for Ruby for Christmas as a child.
* My favourite looking Hoenn Mon is Kecleon.
your overlay looks like fun to create love it
It has been so much fun to make
Niceeeeeee 🎉 I was thinking astonish into bullet seed for Brawly originally good viddy
That move pool early on had terrible options 😮💨 u a strong man I give u that
Scott: "it's Ray-qway-za, idiots"
Also Scott: "Wish-cash" "seal-o"
Looks like you're really getting the hang of these gen Juan runs now mate
Good video as always!
Also Scott pronouncing Colosseum as Stadium at the start
Wishmur
Also, Tan-Gel-A
Okay so Armaldo is the running gag here?
Nice that one of the mon I like so much is getting some attention! ^-^
Also very nice video again, I look forward to the next Emerald challenge
Maybe something less watery like a playthrough with the Aggron line?
Also one of the best and most common stradegies in Gen 3 is a Sub Punch set
Substitute and Focus Punch is such a strong combination in that Gen
Edit: for a potential Aggron nature would be Adamant, giving it really high attack stats
My man magikarp deserves to be in the graphic before the tate and liza battle
True
I love these bloopers about the pressure
Hmmm you did have some poor TM management in this one, had the choice of ice beam or brick break for super effective damage against the cradily but was left with neither. Still, very entertaining video thank you! Love seeing more Hoenn on the channel even if it does take longer to play and you cant optimise it yet
I think he has a bit of a Rest bias. It’s a lot worse in Gen 3 partially because of how the EV system has changed.
It’s really strange. He really does prefer safer tactics when the later gens beyond Gen 2 generally make it so that you can just get by with attacking moves. I mean, this generation trend is probably not strictly true for all Pokémon but the point is movesets diversify up to Generation 7.
@Sasha's Scribbles TM management is a bit beyond me right now. I don't know the game quite well enough to anticipate exactly where I'm going to need them. I also forget that I can re-buy Ice Beam in the Game Corner.
Hey Scott, I have an interesting idea for a video- 2 walkthroughs with the same pokemon, but one mon has perfect EVs, IVs and best nature from the start and other one with normal (or even suboptimal) stats/nature and no intentional EV training during the play through.
I've always wondered how much better such perfect pokemon would fare during normal gameplay. Plus this would show viewers why professional players spent so much time breeding perfect pokemons for tournaments.
That sounds super interesting
I've wanted to make a video like this for awhile (1.5 years now). Eventually it will happen!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon That's awesome to hear and I can't wait to watch this video when it comes out!
Thank you for reading and replying to so many comments under your videos 😊
It's the dancing Mexican pineapple duck!
0:22 Small correction, but he’s from Colosseum and XD only.
Ludicolo is great pokemon, even though as a kid I hated that thing, because of it's typing and it's smile was kind of looking too silly for me at the time. 😄
That run was well played overall, you've been improving a lot ever since your Swampert run, which is really good! 😊(and by the way the new overlay looks sick! I really liked how timer, nature, and moves were presented. Maybe you should include in the stats section, the bonus that the chosen nature is giving you)
The reson why you don't have a stab move on Ludicolo, is that it's a stone evolution pokemon, so you'd get a water move, if only you would evolve it throughout the run. But the moves that this linr of evolution gets isn't the best. Having hydro pump, and water sport are not the best options, so running with it fully evolved was the best choice you could do.
Also having thief for Norman could have helped you to steel the slaking's sitrus berry, and use that to heal your ludicolo. (you can find the thief tm at the slatport museum. You need to talk to an aqua grunt to get that), by the way you can use protect to make the slaking an easy one shot, every time its trying to attack you, so keep that in mind whenever you'd do an emerlad run.
Also for Flannery, always use a female pokemon, to negate her attract attacks. And also for her use thief to steel the torkoal's white herb(the white herb is making her torkoal heal the stat drops that it takes due to overheat, so it can have a maximum power stab move that is boosted by the sun) , or use Hidden power ground/water, because her pokemon don't have a great special defence, so a stab water hidden power should be enough to make her trivial.😊
And yeah, stuppolis is a great name for this awful city that makes you use dive🤭🤭🤭. Your bloopers are getting better too, so keep on making them, they always makes feel super motivated to my voice overs, so thanks for that, and thanks for making these videos to make me have a good time. 😊
28k views in 1 day finally getting the exposure you deserve
I see you're doing this playthrough fully evolved
Well that reminds me of something, when you do the trapinch line make sure to evolve it through the playthrough because trapinch actually looses 30 attack as it evolves into vibrava and regains it when it evolves into flygon, pretty interesting interaction
If you go to the house on the beach and beat all 3 trainers the man in the back will give you some soda pops
Hello Scott and Denis!
I'm rooting for Mr. Sombrero since he's so goofy and happy looking!
Can't make the premier, but will definitely be watching after the gym!
Great vid! Keep up the good work!
The "I catch myself a bruno" line had me fucking roaring lmao.
Edit: Ludicolo struggles in a solo playthrough, but in a nuzlocke it's amazing as a pivot and stuff
He shall henceforth be known as Brockson, because if you don't have specifically something that he is weak to, he will straight up doom an entire run.
I was going to ask if it would be easier to start with Lotad and actually get some water attacks at the cost of stats, but then I looked it up and saw it doesn't actually get those. It seems like movesets didn't really get good until gen 4.
Here's an interesting idea for a race: Vigoroth vs Slaking.
Oh that is a neat idea! No versus videos for awhile in gen 3 though, got to learn the game really well first.
I love your overlays they are awesome.
Thanks Shane
Looking forward to Shiftry! It has a special place for me because it was in my original first team in Ruby. I remembered being disappointed when my Seedot evolved because I had it because he is just so cute
If you keep doing Emerald runs I would love to see a run with Slaking that isnt hampered by truant. Give it something useless for it like overgrow (assuming it doesnt learn grass moves). Comparing the real times for truant and truant-less runs would be amazing
27:46: That transition there was just * chef's kiss *
"In my Swampert video I was quite mean to Ludicolo."
Swampert: 😭
Miror B is from Pokemon Colosseum and XD not from stadium (It would be sick to see a Challenge in those games aswell, even though i would have no idea how) Keep up the great work
I scrolled for a bit looking for someone to make the correction lol
When you were in a battle of attrition with Watson, you probably should've used Absorb until he was in KO range for a 3 or 4 hit Bullet Seed on the Manetric, to counter/avoid his super potions
Yeah, that's a good idea.
I watched on twitch today for the first time. It was a great time.
Glad you enjoyed! It was great having you there.
When choosing which stat to lower with natures, you generally want to lower the stat thats already the lowest as natures change the stat based on a percentage of the base stat, so if you lower a base 100 stat, you're effectively losing 10 bst, whereas if you lower a base 50 stat, you're effectively losing only 5 bst, so you're losing less stats from the nature. Unless that lower stat is REALLY important to have at its base, you get more bang for your buck stat wise by lowering the already lowest base stat
Good idea
Aaa great video, so here's a comment for the algorithm! Anyway, please make Mauville City being called 'Wally City' become a meme.
...Also, I just noticed it said I wasn't subscribed. I thought for sure I was subscribed to you!
Hey Scott, learned this from watching FlygonHG, but Winona's Pelliper will 100% of the time open with Protect making it a good time to use any set up moves or any moves you aren't going to use to conserve pp.
As good as Flygon is, I don’t trust his 100% probability judgements, especially since I’ve seen exceptions in many other videos.
Oh my gosh! I'm currently up to the Norman battle...I can't believe how over levelled this thing needs to be!!! Another case of good moves being locked away behind tough battles
41:18: Yo! That's me! :)
I adore ludicolo im very keen to see this run!
Ludicolo with rain dish
-Rain dance
-Double Team
-Giga Drain
-Surf
...holding Leftovers.
I have to say that I didn’t realize how long you would have to go before being able to upgrade your move set. I think Ludicolo would be improved if you started with Lombre or even Lotad. I think earlier access to better moves will make up for having less power.
I’ve always loved the Lotad line, especially Ludicolo
Ludicolo is one of my favorite gen3 mons because of its design. It just looks so happy :D And in Colosseum, it DANCES! It's great. That said, it's always been a pain to train - even when you factor in the (meager) learnsets of its pre evolutions - and only really popped off after Norman, so I feel your pain.
The addition of move power is a cool idea, but it seems it doesn't factor in STAB? That might be a good idea to add, just for completeness' sake.
Just starting the video but -SpD seems wild to me. I'd almost certainly go -Att, but if you're going to decrease one of the defenses on Ludi it should be Def.
Saving often is a smart move Scott. Don't forget it.
Don't worry. I probably will :P
I remember playing emerald for the first time and using lombre and i can still feel the frustration of its poor movepool levelling up lmao
never played gen 3 its like watching a part of my childhood i never had.
Something I noticed about Phoebe is that Surf was doing more than 2/3 damage, so you could set up Rain Dance to give your Water moves a 1.5x boost and then OHKO her entire team. Granted that would give the first Dusclops a chance to use Curse, but you could also dodge a Protect.
That's a good idea
Man I'm really liking these gen 3 videos, still I'm waiting on the Skarmory run.
For natures:
When I do solo playthroughs of Gen 3, my preferred natures are:
-Adamant for a fast physical attacker or a slower mon who uses phsyical attacks.
-Modest for a fast special attacker or a slower mon who uses special attacks.
-Jolly for a physical attacker who needs a bit of speed.
-Timid for a special attacker who needs a bit of speed.
-Hardy/Docile/Bashful/Quirky/Serious if the mon doesn't want to lose any stats.
-I consider the minus defense/special defense natures if it's a frail and fast mixed attacker, since it would die quickly regardless.
-I only use the minus speed natures for mons with exceptionally low speed, since they won't outspeed anything anyway.
Ludicolo is a solid Pokemon with a fun design.
Dark taking the place of poison actually makes sense. In japanese, it's actually called "evil" type, and that's why the villainous teams use them so much
I agree with you swampert would still be slower! Can’t wait for the next run! Thanks for the video.
Id have used a Bold nature, its one of my favorite natures tbh and would help with the types Ludi is weak to (flying, poison, bug) and a little more bulk against common physical threats like fighting and normal type. Ludicolo can use some physical attacks efficiently in R/S/E, but with the potency and coverage of ice beam, surf, and giga D, i honestly think nerfing it for a boost to def or sp attack is usually the best option for pineapple duck. But if you're ever on the fence, there are honestly some pokemon that I prefer neutral natures on, like especially in gen 3 where all types are one stat or the other. Swampert, Blaziken, and Sceptile are all good candidates for neutral natures in these games, imo
Something to note about your method for getting past spinning trainers, the issue with running by them isn't that it has more startup frames, it's that trainers that can turn will always turn towards you when you run. It's a unique mechanic to the running shoes, not shared by the bike, so it's not surprising you didn't realize.
Loving this *mirror b dance*
Can’t wait for slaking
Oh boy, can't wait for the next Hoenn run to revisit Wally City!
Wally City, where you battle Wally, and Wallyson
Oh my God I'm so excited for this one. I love Ludicolo! ❤️❤️
Slowpoke guy here, unfortunate that the pink Hippo doesn’t appear on this game. (At least the part you play)
Anyway, watching you play 3rd gen makes me gonna take out my old Sapphire copy and re start it
Do it!
(Too many cool pink Pokémon that don’t appear in these games)