You just answered the 21 year question I had of ‘why this thing learns Astonish?’ You know what? If I saw a whale in real life, I would be pretty astonished.
I have a strange connection to Wailord. When Emerald dropped my best friend and I were absolutely obsessed with the battlefrontier and spend entire days in there. One day I lost my Emerald cartridge in the sand and I was so disapointed that my all pokemon were gone. I was kinda broke, so I ordered a used Emerald on the internet. It looked like a normal cartridge exept it had a different cover(the sticker that says pkmn emerald). Fear not, this wont turn into a creepypasta :D As one does when one encounters a pokemon cartridge that used to belong to someone else I checked the savegame: one mudkip level 7 standing in front of the lab. Lame. I started a new game and kinda rushed through it, so I could get started with the battlefrontier again. After defeating the champ I saved and upon restarting the savegame was deleted. I played though it once more and the same thing happened again. I was furious! It was a buggy bootleged copy of emerald! So I saved up some money until I could afford to buy a real copy of emerald from a serious retailer. At this point I just wanted to rush though the game to get to the battlefrontier to play with my friend and so I asked him to send me a strong pokemon to speed up my playthrough. He got my mudkip and I received a lv. 52 Wailord named 'Wal' he just had laying around on his box. At first I was not thrilled because I couldnt control it at all and it just did whatever it wanted (mostly relaxing instead of doing the move i chose). Most battles I was like 'do something you fat fish' 😂 After a while I started to like that thing. It was hilarious to see this giant whale just dont giving a damn and still winning every battle because it was way overleveld. Slow and steady Wal and I conquered the gyms and finally the champ and after the game saved and I started it up again He was still there and I had gotten control over him. And I could finally start building a Team for the battlefrontier and Wal became the first member to join and the first pokemon I ever have gotten to lv. 100. This pokemon really has grown on me more than any other ond I ever owned.
In regards to the Regi's they'd take some special "for this Pokemon only exception" to your rules because the only move they know until level 9 is explosion
I think they will have to go in the Impossible tier, but to get to make a full video with them to see what a run would be like either give them Struggle as their starting move instead of Explosion, or have them start at L.9.
@@Medabee8 you can but it's work you have to modify another unused move to have struggle's properties either way i'd switch train them because it's more accurate to actually playing the game. else their results are going to be dependent on whatever move they get modded in.
Obscure Out of Pocket Wailord Fact: On the 92nd Mt. Battle trainer in Pokemon XD, there is a guy named Bodybuilder Albah. He says "Sometimes, I can't see my Castform in front of my Wailord" before starting the battle. He immediately sends out Castform and Wailord. As soon as I looked at each pokemon's body shape I died. Best joke in all of Pokemon, hands down. I honestly can't believe they got away with it... Anyways looking forward to the run!
@alexschlessman5355 Back in the Johto games, there were "puzzles" based on the Unknown spelling words like "Flash" or "Escape" requiring the use of moves or items. The Hoenn games follow suit by using Braille in order to solve some of those games' puzzles to gain access to the Regis.
Hi, Scott! EV guy here. I looked at the Raichu playthrough on stream, and I'm 100% convinced that farming for attack EVs on route 22 would've been faster. Not only do you hit 20+ ranges that you missed throughout the run, but the 2 places where you would miss the defensive EV (Champion 1 and Bruno 2, yes, that's literally the only 2 places where you benefited from the defensive EVs) could've been solved faster and more consistently with a higher attack stat, using Iron Tail on the first one and Substitute on the second (Bruno 2 is unreliable no matter what, but resetting if steelix 1 EQs instead of Rock Tomb is way faster than resetting if a whole bunch of ranges don't go your way).
@@skeetermania3202 Sure, but stopping to grind attack EVs isn't worth it. Grinding on mankeys is, because you're forced to grind in a single spot for a long time anyway, since Brock is not beatable at lower levels.
Just wanted to say you've gotten a lot better at Emerald since you started, Scott! You seem a lot more confident and collected and seem to have a much better understanding of the game!
I still think my Emerald play lags behind all the other games I'm playing. But I'm getting more practice now that I'm doing 2 runs per video. That will accelerate my learning.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I think that's a fair assessment, but I think it's been catching up a lot during this month, so the double playthroughs have definitely been helping!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonrare candy locations in notes 1. Trick house 2. Dewford cave Mach bike 3. Desert rock east part of desert after you enter 4. Petalburg city 5. Small Rock just outside se of abandoned ship 6. Cut tree east of fortree 7. Mt pyre orb event its on the north side next to orbs 8. Cut tree south of Mt pyre 9. In magma hideout by the pp max 10. Safari zone also useful if you want solarbeam sunny day combo for following 2 gyms (I actually used this in my breloom run) 11. Shoal cave 12. Waterfall acro bike west of fortree 13. Waterfall west of fallarbor I actually use note card and I place note cards so I can remember this stuff on the route
I think hanging onto rollout could be a viable answer to glacia. Also removing surf before the league and teaching water pulse or any other move allows for more move flexibility in the league + you can teach surf at any point when needed.
I also got water spout and water sport confused as a kid but because of that I thought some moves had different properties on different pokemon, which made me try different pokemon with less optimal movesets to see if I got something cool.
Those white bike bridges might be what are called “skinnys”, which are real things specifically made to be biked on. I’m not sure about the vertical hopping ones though…
Field egg group kind of makes sense for Wailord because it seems like they put (mostly) all the mammals in it. But I would love to see how a Diglett and a Wailord breed lol.
I think you might be underrating rollout a little bit, compared to rock tomb. If rollout can 2-hit, it's far more consistent(81% chance vs 64%). Then you can continue to use the high base-power move on the following pokemon. On pokemon rock tomb 3-hits, rollout is strictly better. For the record, rollout is still a bad move, and rock tomb and rollout being your best options to hit something is a pretty niche situation. Still, I think it's worth consideration.
It _can_, yes, but it's pretty inconsistent. It's a less than 60% chance just to land all 5 hits (assuming no accuracy or evasion modifiers), which is comparable to landing a Hypnosis, and sometimes landing a crit at an inconvenient moment can screw you over as well. That's not even mentioning other potential confounding factors, like the opponent outspeeding or surviving a hit and getting a chance to induce a debilitating status condition like paralysis, confusion, or sleep.
I did not know there was a difference between water spout/sport. I never paid enough attention to it. When you started talking about it in this video I was confused until you mentioned there is a move water sport. Thanks Scott!
The shoutout to the Regis in this video sounds like a teaser for a potential video on a certain day in April (or March 31st going by the allusion at the end of the video).
I love the regis. I remember sitting at the kitchen table with a pen and paper and spending literal hours decoding the braille one by one with my Gameboy on and my strategy guide next to me. I was so excited when I finally caught them.
In fairness, whales are basically the oldest Megafauna species since they survived the mass extinctions by hiding in the ocean, so the ancient theme still fits.
Wailord might not end up needing it, but you are undervaluing Rollout. Planning out a battle so you can likely hit a particular obstacle or two with two tactical nukes (240BP and 480BP) is game-changing for some Pokémon. Edit: Glad to see you lean on it at least a little during your final attempt.
I'm really curious as to how you're going to handle the Regis, since the moveset on a level 5 Regi is Explosion. I'm going to assume it will be like the University Magikarp video, where they have to be slightly modified to make the run possible.
I did not think of this correlation between Relicanth and Wailord! That's a neat detail. In Pacifidlog, a woman also tells you that "6 dots open 3 doors" (paraphrased because I play in german). And well, Wailord has 4 white dots on its back, while Relicanth has 2 red ones (one on each side). That's the way I explained it.
It took a lot of convincing and a borderline argument for me to convince my cousin that water spout was an attacking move, he was dead set that it was water sport
I recall using both Claydoll and Wailord on my team in my original Ruby playthrough so both of them being done right after the other like this feels very fitting.
I feel like Water Spout could so speed this up a good bit. Even in the very last fight, rain dance boosts surf to less base power than a full health water spout, which might be easier to get with substitute. So spout instead of rain dance there maybe? Or spout plus dance?
Once I saw "water sport" I registered it in my brain and skiped all text. Water spout was then always read as water sport and I always overleveled so it took me almost 10 years to realise what water spout actually was.
The thicc man himself. I've never gotten around to using one of these. I'm really excited to see if it can do a good job. Though, i'm not expecting too much from the healthy whale
I'm glad someone else made that mistake with Water Sport and Water Spout as a kid too :D I didn't learn Water Spout with Wailord or Kyogre the first few times I played ruby and sapphire because I thought it was the trash move. Then several years later I got emerald and Wallace's Wailord wrecked me with it and I realized it was a separate move. Then I looked it up and felt really dumb. I have one word for you about the Regi playthroughs: Kaboom!
I love Wailord. I remember in 2003 going to my neighbors house to use the internet to figure out how to catch the Regis. Even as a kid I recognized the strategy was way too extra for no reason lmao. Of course I had to get the big boi, and I loved it ever since.
Confusion also confuses the trainer AI. I don't know for sure, but my best guess is it takes confusion into account when it rolls damage/effect. The AI sees that only yawn would connect, so that's the best outcome. Essentially it just prevents the AI from using any effect that rolls confusion, since that results in damage to self. So it de-prioritizes that move super far.
Fluctuating sounds great for a solo challenge. You start fast and once you get to level 60 and you don't level up fast at all anymore, you can use your rare candies.
I wouldn't ask for a hardcore nuzlocke of Emerald Kaizo, but let's get a hardcore nuzlocke of Vanilla Emerald Scott! Would love to see your game knowledge put to use like that.
Perhaps a stupid question, but wouldn’t it be better to use water spout on Steven instead of surf? Edit: talking about the first playtrough. Austin’s strat for Steven was lit :D
Wailord being able to breed with Tauros and Miltank is less strange when you learn that whales belong to the group of hoofed mammals. Still kinda funny
It’s really funny that Pokémon are just animals that can shrink to escape threats when they have been beaten up enough, and gods that can also shrink to escape threats when they are beaten up enough.
Yeah I was always confused about Water Spout and Water Sport. I always thought as a kid that when Wailord used Water Sport it turned into Water Spout because Wallace’s Wailord was the first time I saw the move and thought it was a special type of Water Sport that could only be learned by ancient Pokémon like Kyogre and Wailord. Plus the back sprite of Wailord looks a lot like Kyogre to me so I always thought Wailord was a descendant of Kyogre since it’s used to unlock the Regi’s and they could both learn Water Spout
I always got water, sport and water spout mixed up. Which always frustrated me, especially in mystery dungeon games. Hoping to clear out a monster house only to end up getting KO'd instead
That absorb heals shroomish a lot doesn't have to do with the hp that Wailord has, but the defense-supereffective since it is percentage of damage dealt. On the other hand, if Wailord would have gotten leech seeded then the big hp stat works against it.
Regarding Rollout, I understand that you don't like its inconsistency (it bothers me as well how much it misses), but it felt a bit weird that you didn't mention the 4th and 5th turns of Rollout, which respectively do 240 and 480 base power of damage. If you really want to be disingenuous, you could add the 5 turns of Rollout together and say it does an average of 186 damage per turn. It was cool seeing Rollout show up in the redo, playing a prominent part. Just a heads up, hitting 5 consecutive Rollouts is a 59.049% chance, aka slightly less likely than Hypnosis hitting once, so I definitely get why your biases sway you away from using Rollout. I'd maybe argue that Rash is a better nature because Amnesia can patch it up, but that's a bit of a stretch. Anyway, you played quite well with Wailord and I'm excited for Ludicolo to absolutely crush yet another Pokemon's dreams tomorrow :) (I just realized that it's a bit strange that Wailord doesn't learn AncientPower by level up in this game, considering its ancient associations).
I’m stunned you didn’t know how water spout worked, it’s exactly the same as eruption and dragon energy, it’s arguably the best offensive move ever in doubles. It really rips on Kyogre since it also sets the rain or paired with peliper/politoed/manual prankster weather. Really gotta watch some VGC lol.
Don’t worry about the “water spoUt/water spoRt” confusion, you aren’t alone. Another poketuber lost their randomiser nuzlocke in (small) part due to this.
I can name one Water type line Wailord can breed with off the top of my head: the Piplup line, who is also in the Field Egg Group. (Even though it seems like the Flying Egg Group would make more sense; they're already in Water 1 as well.) Also, if I'm not mistaken, Chansey is in the Fairy Egg Group. Which means that a Wailord _can_ be a Chansey's grandfather, if he breeds with a Pikachu or Raichu, who are in both the Field and Fairy Egg Groups. (Why is Pikachu in the Fairy Egg Group? Who knows?)
Whenever I hear someone say that dragons were too powerful before fairy type, they often argue when I point out that most take quad damage from ice moves. Given how quickly you disposed of Drake, I think it's obvious that dragons are not, in fact, overpowered. People just didn't utilize ice attacks.
How would the Regis fare in Gen 3? The answer: All Three Are Impossible. All of them start with only one move, and that move makes the user blow up and immediately faint.
Can't wait for the 'surprise' on Sunday cause I think it might feature my favourite group of legendaries. Too bad Regieleki isn't there for another 5 gens thats my favourite Pokemon of all time
Is Earthquake better than Surf against Metagross? It has 62 points less Special Defense than Defense and Surf is STAB boosted and hits for neutral. It feels like some other move could be more useful in that slot.
I'm with you on water sport, but my story goes differently. I discovered it in my cousins Kyogre, and just assumed it worked differently for that Pokemon, just like how curse worked differently for ghastly line (the only ghost Pokemon I used at that time due to misdrevous being very out of the way)
I feared for your sanity thinking of Ludicolo and its Leech Seed. A common interaction in gen 3 competitive was Celebi using Leech Seed against Blissey... While it would struggle to put much of a dent in Bliss with its normal moves, Blissey donating 8% of its HP to its opponent every turn was naturally a real big problem. Looking forward to Relicanth, at any rate. I kinda feel Pokemon and Animal Crossing have done a lot to make the coelacanth a fish that gamers of a certain age group are surprisingly familiar with.
Bro... I just hope you checked ranges with water spout on those fights. I feel that with surf being close on one shots and two shots, water spout could have compensated for that. Water spout plus lefty's is stupid OP.
My thought process was more along the lines: Surf is more flexible, no PP issues, and if Surf can do it, why get myself into problems with Water Spout. I think if I did this run like 10+ times I would eventually convert from Surf to Water Spout. Would need to PP max it and then carefully plan Leppa Berries and Ether/Elixir use. I wish I could clone myself and have each version play 1 Pokémon for a year so that everything could get dialled in and ultra specific.
I make sure to no longer confuse them because I watch VGC where Water Spout is very very relevant, but I am also guilty of confusing Water Sport and Water Spout in my youth. A lot.
I appreciate the comment but I’m not going to change how I speak. This is just the way my voice works. Plus I also get the comment that I speak too fast… can’t please everyone. This is why speed controls exist after all
One might almost say its the Braille-lord...Ill show myself out. Also reassuring to know I wasnt the only idiot thinking Pokemon only had one type in Gen 1.
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I wonder how Waterspout would've faired against Steven's team.
Hmm... Im pretty sure that, in your last playthrough, taking the time to exchange surf for water spout would have prevented 3 resets. Once you need surf, you can always reteach at a very small time investment. It would have easily and consistently crushed T&L, Sydney AND Phoebe. I also wonder if Water Spout would be useful vs Steven. I think Rest could even be dropped in favour of Water Spout and the fight would be more consistent. Claydoll should be a one-shot, Metagross might be a two shot of spout+surf or maybe 2x spout. I think you really underestimated the utility of a 150 power stab move.
Gen Three Philosophers be like:
Plato: If it's green, it's definitely a grass type.
Diogenes: _throws a shiny espeon_ *BEHOLD! A LEAFEON!*
Ludicolo running for the "Pokemon featured on the most Scott's Thoughts thumbnails" award
Hehehehe, it is giving butterfree a run for its money.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon but can it beat out Flareon from livestreams?
Dude, Imagine getting Astonished by a 40-foot, 800 pound behemoth
It’s floating too I’d be pretty astonished lol
Greatest comment ever lol
It's Astonishing how big it is too
You just answered the 21 year question I had of ‘why this thing learns Astonish?’
You know what? If I saw a whale in real life, I would be pretty astonished.
It's a balloon behemoth
An average male sperm whale is the same size as wailord and over 10 times heavier
This thing may float in air
I have a strange connection to Wailord.
When Emerald dropped my best friend and I were absolutely obsessed with the battlefrontier and spend entire days in there.
One day I lost my Emerald cartridge in the sand and I was so disapointed that my all pokemon were gone.
I was kinda broke, so I ordered a used Emerald on the internet. It looked like a normal cartridge exept it had a different cover(the sticker that says pkmn emerald). Fear not, this wont turn into a creepypasta :D
As one does when one encounters a pokemon cartridge that used to belong to someone else I checked the savegame: one mudkip level 7 standing in front of the lab. Lame.
I started a new game and kinda rushed through it, so I could get started with the battlefrontier again.
After defeating the champ I saved and upon restarting the savegame was deleted.
I played though it once more and the same thing happened again. I was furious! It was a buggy bootleged copy of emerald!
So I saved up some money until I could afford to buy a real copy of emerald from a serious retailer.
At this point I just wanted to rush though the game to get to the battlefrontier to play with my friend and so I asked him to send me a strong pokemon to speed up my playthrough.
He got my mudkip and I received a lv. 52 Wailord named 'Wal' he just had laying around on his box. At first I was not thrilled because I couldnt control it at all and it just did whatever it wanted (mostly relaxing instead of doing the move i chose). Most battles I was like 'do something you fat fish' 😂
After a while I started to like that thing. It was hilarious to see this giant whale just dont giving a damn and still winning every battle because it was way overleveld.
Slow and steady Wal and I conquered the gyms and finally the champ and after the game saved and I started it up again He was still there and I had gotten control over him. And I could finally start building a Team for the battlefrontier and Wal became the first member to join and the first pokemon I ever have gotten to lv. 100.
This pokemon really has grown on me more than any other ond I ever owned.
Awwww
In regards to the Regi's they'd take some special "for this Pokemon only exception" to your rules because the only move they know until level 9 is explosion
I'm guessing it will be more like the University Magikarp. The Regis will be just slightly modified to make them actually playable.
I think they will have to go in the Impossible tier, but to get to make a full video with them to see what a run would be like either give them Struggle as their starting move instead of Explosion, or have them start at L.9.
@@iss2075 Or just edit their movesets to move the level 9 move to the starting moveset
@@iss2075you can't give a pokemon struggle...
@@Medabee8 you can but it's work you have to modify another unused move to have struggle's properties
either way i'd switch train them because it's more accurate to actually playing the game. else their results are going to be dependent on whatever move they get modded in.
Obscure Out of Pocket Wailord Fact: On the 92nd Mt. Battle trainer in Pokemon XD, there is a guy named Bodybuilder Albah. He says "Sometimes, I can't see my Castform in front of my Wailord" before starting the battle. He immediately sends out Castform and Wailord. As soon as I looked at each pokemon's body shape I died. Best joke in all of Pokemon, hands down. I honestly can't believe they got away with it... Anyways looking forward to the run!
It's funny because it's a penis joke about being fat 😂
Thats incredible
Reminds me of the lovely couple in HG/SS with an Onix and Cloyster
Scott: * names his Wailord 'Braille' *
Me: Ha! I *see* what you did there.
Someone's gonna have to explain the joke to me. It rhymes? There's gotta be more to the joke than it rhymes
@alexschlessman5355 Back in the Johto games, there were "puzzles" based on the Unknown spelling words like "Flash" or "Escape" requiring the use of moves or items. The Hoenn games follow suit by using Braille in order to solve some of those games' puzzles to gain access to the Regis.
@@charlessegale6493 oh that's right ... I kinda feel like that kronk meme where he says oh yeah it's all coming together.
Thanks
@@alexschlessman5355 Glad I could help!
Also wailord is one of the required pokemon listed in the braille required for the regis
Hi, Scott! EV guy here.
I looked at the Raichu playthrough on stream, and I'm 100% convinced that farming for attack EVs on route 22 would've been faster. Not only do you hit 20+ ranges that you missed throughout the run, but the 2 places where you would miss the defensive EV (Champion 1 and Bruno 2, yes, that's literally the only 2 places where you benefited from the defensive EVs) could've been solved faster and more consistently with a higher attack stat, using Iron Tail on the first one and Substitute on the second (Bruno 2 is unreliable no matter what, but resetting if steelix 1 EQs instead of Rock Tomb is way faster than resetting if a whole bunch of ranges don't go your way).
The second floor of Mt Moon is more reliable for Attack EV training, as it always spawns Paras.
@@skeetermania3202 Sure, but stopping to grind attack EVs isn't worth it. Grinding on mankeys is, because you're forced to grind in a single spot for a long time anyway, since Brock is not beatable at lower levels.
Fun fact: regis literally cannot beat a solo playthrough.
Unless they miss all 5 explosions
@@glennvandierendonck3771 Explosion kills you even if it misses.
Cheating is required if someone wants to use them
Why?
@@BigHeadDeadass their moveset is:
Explosion
And yes, thats it
Return in Japanese is... Return Favor. Not really important but it does explain the move a little better.
The Regi play throughs are gonna be so good!! I love the trio
They cannot win though.... They start with explosion only. :(
…ah
I forgot about that.
Do they get experience?
@@wompus_king no
Just wondering which pokemon is going to be in sunday video.. ;)
I'm excited for those
Just wanted to say you've gotten a lot better at Emerald since you started, Scott! You seem a lot more confident and collected and seem to have a much better understanding of the game!
I still think my Emerald play lags behind all the other games I'm playing. But I'm getting more practice now that I'm doing 2 runs per video. That will accelerate my learning.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I think that's a fair assessment, but I think it's been catching up a lot during this month, so the double playthroughs have definitely been helping!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonrare candy locations in notes
1. Trick house
2. Dewford cave Mach bike
3. Desert rock east part of desert after you enter
4. Petalburg city
5. Small Rock just outside se of abandoned ship
6. Cut tree east of fortree
7. Mt pyre orb event its on the north side next to orbs
8. Cut tree south of Mt pyre
9. In magma hideout by the pp max
10. Safari zone also useful if you want solarbeam sunny day combo for following 2 gyms (I actually used this in my breloom run)
11. Shoal cave
12. Waterfall acro bike west of fortree
13. Waterfall west of fallarbor
I actually use note card and I place note cards so I can remember this stuff on the route
I think hanging onto rollout could be a viable answer to glacia.
Also removing surf before the league and teaching water pulse or any other move allows for more move flexibility in the league + you can teach surf at any point when needed.
“I wonder how the Regis would do in a solo playthrough.”
*Laughs in Tidas*
the tidas show?
I can hear the laugh now. XD
Incredibly prescient
Isn't it spelled Tidus? Or are you not referencing FFX?
Never in my life did I think I needed to see Ludicolo riding a Wailord we live in a great time ❤
I also got water spout and water sport confused as a kid but because of that I thought some moves had different properties on different pokemon, which made me try different pokemon with less optimal movesets to see if I got something cool.
Those white bike bridges might be what are called “skinnys”, which are real things specifically made to be biked on. I’m not sure about the vertical hopping ones though…
Cool lore about the Relicanth/Wailord Regi connection! Those sort of thematic storytelling devices are part of what makes Pokemon awesome.
Field egg group kind of makes sense for Wailord because it seems like they put (mostly) all the mammals in it. But I would love to see how a Diglett and a Wailord breed lol.
Why would you love to see that???
It's a matter of -morbid- scientific curiosity. (For that matter, how does Diglett breed with anything?)
I'm guessing "very carefully."
36:11 Scott being Oblivious to Wailord’s ability
Calling it now. The surprise in store are 3 impossible tier pokemon.
I think you might be underrating rollout a little bit, compared to rock tomb. If rollout can 2-hit, it's far more consistent(81% chance vs 64%). Then you can continue to use the high base-power move on the following pokemon. On pokemon rock tomb 3-hits, rollout is strictly better.
For the record, rollout is still a bad move, and rock tomb and rollout being your best options to hit something is a pretty niche situation. Still, I think it's worth consideration.
I would say that rollout should only be used if defence curl is also on you rmoveset. It makes it a lot better and viable
Rollout literally can solo so many fights, it's kinda stupid.
It _can_, yes, but it's pretty inconsistent. It's a less than 60% chance just to land all 5 hits (assuming no accuracy or evasion modifiers), which is comparable to landing a Hypnosis, and sometimes landing a crit at an inconvenient moment can screw you over as well. That's not even mentioning other potential confounding factors, like the opponent outspeeding or surviving a hit and getting a chance to induce a debilitating status condition like paralysis, confusion, or sleep.
I did not know there was a difference between water spout/sport. I never paid enough attention to it. When you started talking about it in this video I was confused until you mentioned there is a move water sport. Thanks Scott!
The shoutout to the Regis in this video sounds like a teaser for a potential video on a certain day in April (or March 31st going by the allusion at the end of the video).
32:15 not necessarily spout vs sport however i mix other things up
Like judy instead of jody for a start
Yay dyslexia
I love the regis. I remember sitting at the kitchen table with a pen and paper and spending literal hours decoding the braille one by one with my Gameboy on and my strategy guide next to me. I was so excited when I finally caught them.
In fairness, whales are basically the oldest Megafauna species since they survived the mass extinctions by hiding in the ocean, so the ancient theme still fits.
Wailord might not end up needing it, but you are undervaluing Rollout. Planning out a battle so you can likely hit a particular obstacle or two with two tactical nukes (240BP and 480BP) is game-changing for some Pokémon.
Edit: Glad to see you lean on it at least a little during your final attempt.
Luditrollo shaping up to be the Gen 3 Sandslash
I'm really curious as to how you're going to handle the Regis, since the moveset on a level 5 Regi is Explosion. I'm going to assume it will be like the University Magikarp video, where they have to be slightly modified to make the run possible.
I love that Ludicolo is rapidly evolving into Scott’s nemesis.
I did not think of this correlation between Relicanth and Wailord! That's a neat detail. In Pacifidlog, a woman also tells you that "6 dots open 3 doors" (paraphrased because I play in german). And well, Wailord has 4 white dots on its back, while Relicanth has 2 red ones (one on each side). That's the way I explained it.
I like to imagine that instead of curling up and rolling around, Wailord imitates a log on a hill and squishes anything in its path.
Any way to put a little + and - next to the nature stats on the overlay? I forget what "mild" means 4 seconds after you say it lol
Yeah, this is something I've wanted to do for so long. It's coming. It just has never been a high priority.
It took a lot of convincing and a borderline argument for me to convince my cousin that water spout was an attacking move, he was dead set that it was water sport
When Scott keeps landing that sleep move so you have to reset to extend that watch time
Wailord actually did really good. It's strong and has surprisingly high attack stats, Speed isn't too bad either. Great runs.
if we're going by shape as our reference, then we could easily argue that wailord is more in the 'i dont care' camp than the 'i dont know' camp
Inevitably, I must point out that another unlikely member of the Field egg group is Seedot.
I recall using both Claydoll and Wailord on my team in my original Ruby playthrough so both of them being done right after the other like this feels very fitting.
I feel like Water Spout could so speed this up a good bit. Even in the very last fight, rain dance boosts surf to less base power than a full health water spout, which might be easier to get with substitute. So spout instead of rain dance there maybe? Or spout plus dance?
Interesting idea.
Once I saw "water sport" I registered it in my brain and skiped all text. Water spout was then always read as water sport and I always overleveled so it took me almost 10 years to realise what water spout actually was.
If you ever do a Marill solo run you should name it ‘Survivor’ after this moment of it staying alive through the gym fight.
The thicc man himself. I've never gotten around to using one of these. I'm really excited to see if it can do a good job. Though, i'm not expecting too much from the healthy whale
I'm glad someone else made that mistake with Water Sport and Water Spout as a kid too :D I didn't learn Water Spout with Wailord or Kyogre the first few times I played ruby and sapphire because I thought it was the trash move. Then several years later I got emerald and Wallace's Wailord wrecked me with it and I realized it was a separate move. Then I looked it up and felt really dumb.
I have one word for you about the Regi playthroughs: Kaboom!
My guess is that the special surprise is going to be some kind of Legendary Vs video, either the weather trio, the Lati twins, or the Regis.
I love Wailord. I remember in 2003 going to my neighbors house to use the internet to figure out how to catch the Regis. Even as a kid I recognized the strategy was way too extra for no reason lmao. Of course I had to get the big boi, and I loved it ever since.
So happy the regular content is back!
The Regies only start with Explosion so..
Glad I'm not alone in mistaking Water Sport for Water Spout and vice versa 😅Awesome video, well done
It's a shame that the Regis can't even get out of Oldale Town. Would have been fun to see them in action.
Ehh just give them the moves they learn at level 9 in place of Explosion
Confusion also confuses the trainer AI. I don't know for sure, but my best guess is it takes confusion into account when it rolls damage/effect. The AI sees that only yawn would connect, so that's the best outcome. Essentially it just prevents the AI from using any effect that rolls confusion, since that results in damage to self. So it de-prioritizes that move super far.
I literally had this thought and wanted to see if there was a video! Thank you for making this 😭😭.
You're welcome :)
Fluctuating sounds great for a solo challenge. You start fast and once you get to level 60 and you don't level up fast at all anymore, you can use your rare candies.
I wouldn't ask for a hardcore nuzlocke of Emerald Kaizo, but let's get a hardcore nuzlocke of Vanilla Emerald Scott! Would love to see your game knowledge put to use like that.
Perhaps a stupid question, but wouldn’t it be better to use water spout on Steven instead of surf?
Edit: talking about the first playtrough. Austin’s strat for Steven was lit :D
i really cant wait for a regirock/regice/registeel VS video, it'll be a really close call, but im putting my money on registeel
That art is awesome! XD
Brian is killing it lately!
I say ludicolo becomes the new channel mascot. Come on just look at that happy face
Hahaha. There is a team of anti-hero Pokemon forming. Sandslash, Magneton, Ludicolo...
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon would Karen's Umbreon make that list?
That thumbnail art is amazing. I love it.
Every time I hear how you pronounce "truant" I get a chuckle. Thanks for another interesting vid!
Definitely mixed up water spout and water sport in my time, too. You're not alone
Wailord being able to breed with Tauros and Miltank is less strange when you learn that whales belong to the group of hoofed mammals. Still kinda funny
It’s really funny that Pokémon are just animals that can shrink to escape threats when they have been beaten up enough, and gods that can also shrink to escape threats when they are beaten up enough.
Marill hit Tackle, run invalid.
That Watson fight was very nerve wracking, Scott
Yeah I was always confused about Water Spout and Water Sport. I always thought as a kid that when Wailord used Water Sport it turned into Water Spout because Wallace’s Wailord was the first time I saw the move and thought it was a special type of Water Sport that could only be learned by ancient Pokémon like Kyogre and Wailord.
Plus the back sprite of Wailord looks a lot like Kyogre to me so I always thought Wailord was a descendant of Kyogre since it’s used to unlock the Regi’s and they could both learn Water Spout
it feels kind of wild that Pokemon Egg groups aren't just like, Water Egg group and such
I always got water, sport and water spout mixed up. Which always frustrated me, especially in mystery dungeon games. Hoping to clear out a monster house only to end up getting KO'd instead
That absorb heals shroomish a lot doesn't have to do with the hp that Wailord has, but the defense-supereffective since it is percentage of damage dealt. On the other hand, if Wailord would have gotten leech seeded then the big hp stat works against it.
Water Spout has made me want to see some Eruption action, Torkoal when?
Regarding Rollout, I understand that you don't like its inconsistency (it bothers me as well how much it misses), but it felt a bit weird that you didn't mention the 4th and 5th turns of Rollout, which respectively do 240 and 480 base power of damage. If you really want to be disingenuous, you could add the 5 turns of Rollout together and say it does an average of 186 damage per turn. It was cool seeing Rollout show up in the redo, playing a prominent part. Just a heads up, hitting 5 consecutive Rollouts is a 59.049% chance, aka slightly less likely than Hypnosis hitting once, so I definitely get why your biases sway you away from using Rollout. I'd maybe argue that Rash is a better nature because Amnesia can patch it up, but that's a bit of a stretch. Anyway, you played quite well with Wailord and I'm excited for Ludicolo to absolutely crush yet another Pokemon's dreams tomorrow :) (I just realized that it's a bit strange that Wailord doesn't learn AncientPower by level up in this game, considering its ancient associations).
I’m stunned you didn’t know how water spout worked, it’s exactly the same as eruption and dragon energy, it’s arguably the best offensive move ever in doubles. It really rips on Kyogre since it also sets the rain or paired with peliper/politoed/manual prankster weather. Really gotta watch some VGC lol.
Is that a flareon on top of a wailord who is wrapped up in a leech seed? Oh my😊
Don’t worry about the “water spoUt/water spoRt” confusion, you aren’t alone.
Another poketuber lost their randomiser nuzlocke in (small) part due to this.
I can name one Water type line Wailord can breed with off the top of my head: the Piplup line, who is also in the Field Egg Group. (Even though it seems like the Flying Egg Group would make more sense; they're already in Water 1 as well.)
Also, if I'm not mistaken, Chansey is in the Fairy Egg Group. Which means that a Wailord _can_ be a Chansey's grandfather, if he breeds with a Pikachu or Raichu, who are in both the Field and Fairy Egg Groups. (Why is Pikachu in the Fairy Egg Group? Who knows?)
Whenever I hear someone say that dragons were too powerful before fairy type, they often argue when I point out that most take quad damage from ice moves.
Given how quickly you disposed of Drake, I think it's obvious that dragons are not, in fact, overpowered. People just didn't utilize ice attacks.
How would the Regis fare in Gen 3?
The answer: All Three Are Impossible. All of them start with only one move, and that move makes the user blow up and immediately faint.
Can't wait for the 'surprise' on Sunday cause I think it might feature my favourite group of legendaries. Too bad Regieleki isn't there for another 5 gens thats my favourite Pokemon of all time
Is Earthquake better than Surf against Metagross? It has 62 points less Special Defense than Defense and Surf is STAB boosted and hits for neutral.
It feels like some other move could be more useful in that slot.
Dope nickname. Could have even gone with "Braille-Lord" !
I'm with you on water sport, but my story goes differently. I discovered it in my cousins Kyogre, and just assumed it worked differently for that Pokemon, just like how curse worked differently for ghastly line (the only ghost Pokemon I used at that time due to misdrevous being very out of the way)
Too bad Curse is an Egg Move on Wailord. Crystal strats would've been dope!
In solo challenges high HP is only a problem for leech seed, otherwise only your low defences might hold you back
Don't the Regis only start with explosion? Might not be possible
You’re right…
"It's a grass type because it's green." *confused elektrike noises* xD
I feared for your sanity thinking of Ludicolo and its Leech Seed. A common interaction in gen 3 competitive was Celebi using Leech Seed against Blissey... While it would struggle to put much of a dent in Bliss with its normal moves, Blissey donating 8% of its HP to its opponent every turn was naturally a real big problem.
Looking forward to Relicanth, at any rate. I kinda feel Pokemon and Animal Crossing have done a lot to make the coelacanth a fish that gamers of a certain age group are surprisingly familiar with.
Bro... I just hope you checked ranges with water spout on those fights. I feel that with surf being close on one shots and two shots, water spout could have compensated for that. Water spout plus lefty's is stupid OP.
My thought process was more along the lines: Surf is more flexible, no PP issues, and if Surf can do it, why get myself into problems with Water Spout. I think if I did this run like 10+ times I would eventually convert from Surf to Water Spout. Would need to PP max it and then carefully plan Leppa Berries and Ether/Elixir use. I wish I could clone myself and have each version play 1 Pokémon for a year so that everything could get dialled in and ultra specific.
I make sure to no longer confuse them because I watch VGC where Water Spout is very very relevant, but I am also guilty of confusing Water Sport and Water Spout in my youth. A lot.
I noticed your overlay says Steven's Aggron has Sturdy which it clearly doesn't since you one-shot it.
Sturdy doesn't work like that before Gen 5. It only blocks one hit KO moves like Guillotine and Sheer Cold.
Sturdy in Gen 3 only works on OHKO moves.
Yeah, Sturdy was really bad before gen5...
So Ludicolo is basically the gen 3 mascot of the channel by this point right? Also, you know. DROOPPEEED MY BALLSSSS
00:34 Skitty mentioned :)
I'm struggling to listen to these videos on normal speed, it seems too slow. 1.25% seems better.
1.25x is peak. Anytime I catch Scott live (and at normal speed), he sounds drunk to me lmao.
@@cameronclevenger8215 Yeah I can't handle it 😅
I appreciate the comment but I’m not going to change how I speak. This is just the way my voice works. Plus I also get the comment that I speak too fast… can’t please everyone. This is why speed controls exist after all
Regi vs incoming on sunday, there's no other way
I’m oblivious as well!! Hahah I’ve even gotten in trouble for flirting when I didn’t think I was 😂
One might almost say its the Braille-lord...Ill show myself out.
Also reassuring to know I wasnt the only idiot thinking Pokemon only had one type in Gen 1.
I wonder how Waterspout would've faired against Steven's team.
if you were gonna stall out the cradile, you could of potentially gone with waterspout.
Hey Scott are we going to get the regis by themselves or a vrs video and would that include riggiriggi or not?
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Looked like the glalie DID use lightscreen it just wore off as sealeo 2 came out XD
Hmm... Im pretty sure that, in your last playthrough, taking the time to exchange surf for water spout would have prevented 3 resets. Once you need surf, you can always reteach at a very small time investment.
It would have easily and consistently crushed T&L, Sydney AND Phoebe.
I also wonder if Water Spout would be useful vs Steven. I think Rest could even be dropped in favour of Water Spout and the fight would be more consistent. Claydoll should be a one-shot, Metagross might be a two shot of spout+surf or maybe 2x spout.
I think you really underestimated the utility of a 150 power stab move.