NEW! M&P Shield Plus...The Best Shield For Carry?
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Do the previous M&P shield mags fit the new plus?
@@intune6877 no
I have a Shield. I don’t carry it much because the heel of the grip prints in work clothes for me but I can’t bring myself to sell it because it feels wrong doing that to a gun that’s ate 2,000 cheap rounds with zero malfunctions. Such a reliable gun.
I like the shields, but figured I'd have the same problem. I ended up buying a Glock 26 two years ago and I have a hard time concealing it also. Just waiting for all the panic buying to end so I can try a pocket .380.
@@farstrider79 I carry my Ruger LCP 2 in my pocket every day at home. Its no different than a wallet or phone in my front pocket. Its very lightweight as I also looked a few others, such as the Beretta 3032. I'm happy with it. I had a Glock 42 that was a bit large (but ok as I'm 5'9") for pocket carry. I actually traded the 42 for the Ruger as my 42 had intermittent issues with defensive ammo...yes...I said it...a Glock that wasn't perfect. I had the unicorn 🙄.
Anyway...I absolutely recommend the Ruger if you are looking for a dedicated pocket gun. Carries well with the extended mag with an IWB/appendix holster in summer as well.
@@24roughing76 It's on my list of possible guns, but i'm leaning towards a S&W Bodyguard. I actually like double action triggers for pocket pistols. But it doesn't matter till you can actually buy .380.
For me the Bodyguard was very unreliable with a malfunction almost every mag with good ammo. I traded it in for the Ruger lcp which had been 100% reliable with double the round count and a slightly smaller gun with a way better trigger also. But that was my experience with the bodyguard, you may have better luck.
This is great, the Shield was always the gold standard for ease of shootability among all other sub/micro compact guns. The Shield just shoots so soft and easily and points so naturally. Now it’s got 10+1 and 13+1 with the proven reliability, damn this just took the throne!
Absolutely ☝🏻
15+1 now w/ equalizer mags
@@josh48315 You have to try the iwi masada Slim, it is also an excellent subcompact
Just picked one up today. Always been a M&P fan ever since the original full size pistols. Even bought the bodyguard 380 before it was introduced to the M&P line. The nice part about the new shield plus is you can use the 13 round magazine at the range and carry the 10 round magazine for concealment although I would advise on purchasing 2 more 10 round magazines for everyday carry and practice magazine reloads. Also a UPLULA loader to save on your thumb 👍🇺🇸
One of the reasons I still kept my og shield is because I find it shoots softer than the other small guns. Just always felt a little limited in capacity. This pretty much ticks the boxes for me.
@@egads2 yea, I bought several Mag guts for my extra 8rd shield mags and they work great and easy to install.
Could you run the original Shield slide on the new frame? Sorry if thus was already ask/answered
Kept my shield 1.0 because it’s in .40 cal lol
I still have my original shield as well. I never feel fatigued after a long day on the range with it. Might have to check this out though.
@@apg897 he mentioned it in video. Old will not fit shield plus, but shield plus will fit old model.
My shield 2.0 is by far my favorite carry pistol and I am beyond pumped about this new Release. It’s about damn time SW!
Why...????
You have been waiting too long 😂🤣
The response and views on this one are off the charts. Keep em coming and thank you for the support 🤘👊🇺🇸
Do you prefer the Shield plus or the P365?
@@Knocked_down_a_peg I think 365 is TOO small. Shield is very easy to shoot. I would compare the Shield Plus to P365 XL if I were you. Just my opinion!
Whats the weight
@@Knocked_down_a_peg Working on it bro. Stay tuned
@@josh48315 The nice thing about the P365 is that when you use the 12 round mag, the grip is essentially the same as the 365XL. You can also put the XL slide on it. Pretty flexible gun and I like mine, but if I had to buy today I'd probably go with the Shield+ because the wider grip just feels better.
Nice. I have a p365 with additional 12 rd mags. Great gun. Nice to see more options popping up with a similar footprint and capacity.
Had an original Shield 9, loved it. Sold it in a hard time and regretted it since. One of my favorite handguns ever, I could not shoot it without smiling. I may have to reacquaint myself to this.
I love my m&p plus! I carried the p365 over 2 years and loved it until I shot the m&p! The m&p in my opinion shoots 100% better! The trigger is awesome!!!!
This sounds like a winner to me. I have the original Shield and was planning on upgrading to the 2.0 a few years ago but didn't do it because the improvements weren't as drastic. The Ruger Max-9 was announced a little earlier yesterday and I had my mind set on that until S&W announced the Shield Plus.
I rather get this than the P365 because I trust Smith’s QC more than Sig.
That issue was resolved a long time ago. If it ever really was a issue.
Nothing wrong with S&W, but I doubt it's better than a Sig.
Facts
@@DS..69 very real. Look at my only uploaded video. Sent mine back to sig 3 times before being able to finish a full box of ammo.
Amen!!!
Shield has always been a better shooter than the 365 / hellcat ... I’m really happy they finally made this. Been waiting 3 years for Smith to catch up!
3 years to catch up yet, but I’m glad they waited, if they rushed it, might have not been so good,
@@JohnW-yv6yp I agree. I also think R&D is expensive and time consuming for these companies. The gun companies spend millions of dollars and years of work on these designs before they come out. It's no small investment for them. So ... the 365 changed the game and 2-3 years later all the companies are catching up, which is exactly what happened during the "single stack nine" craze. Remember how pissed people were that Glock was 3 years late on that one? I think that's just the way it works.
I traded my Ruger Security 9 in on the Shield Plus and I have no regrets what so ever. The M&P Shield Plus is much more comfortable to carry all day. It's so light I almost forget I have it on me. Now I did give up 2 rounds of capacity in the trade but I can live with that and it got me a great price out the door for my Shield Plus. The trigger is definitely smooth and it feeds everything I have put in it from 124 Grain FMJ to 124 Grain Speer Gold Dot to Federal HST 124 Grain Hollow Points. I'm very pleased and do recommend this pistol.
Thanks for your post. I'm carrying my M&P Shield Plus with the 10-round magazine and two 13-round magazines.
This is a favorite of mine and has never disappointed me.
Loving it. The Shield was my first carry gun, my wife and I both have a 1st generation and I have both a PC and a 2.0 as well. I’m a huge fan of the platform, shoot it better than any other subcompact, but have been searching for a higher capacity replacement. Bought a P365, had problems and sold it. I’ve tried a VP9SK and now carry a CZ P10S most days. No question that I’ll pick up a new Plus, I’m excited to give it a try.
What gun do you think has less felt recoil and shoots more accurately between the p 10s and the shield plus?
@@aaronmiles8286 I bought a Plus, one for myself and one for my wife. Love the gun, it’s everything I love in the platform with good capacity. But I have to admit, the P10S is a little bigger, slightly heavier gun and between the two, the CZ has less recoil than the Plus. Accuracy, they’re about the same. I shoot them both well and have good groups for my skill level with both. I found myself carrying the Plus most of the time through the summer and fall. It just conceals so easily with any dress. Now that it’s cooling off I have gone back to the CZ for one simple reason... the size of the trigger guard. It’s much larger on the P10S than the Plus. I wear gloves most every day and can handle the CZ easily with gloves where the trigger guard on the Shield is much smaller and, for me, I have a tough time fitting in a gloved finger without touching the trigger. That’s the only “flaw” with the Plus that affects me personally, handling with gloves. So I’ll likely carry the P10S until Spring, it conceals great in winter dress, and then go back to the Plus. I love both guns, they both run flawlessly and I shoot them both well but IMO the Plus is just a bit snappier than the CZ. I’ll also add that the CZ functions a little smoother than the Plus, even after about 2,000 rounds through the Plus. Not putting down any Shield, we all know they loosen up with use, but the P10S is just a very smooth gun out of the box. Truth is, I’m a big fan of both but because of ease of carry and concealment, I would likely carry the Plus year round if I didn’t wear gloves.
@@nelsonstruewe4047 right on thank you for getting back to me.
I knew they would do it, been waiting for this since the 365 came out. Bought the 365, got caught up in the hype but never loved it, Ive always loved the 1.0 Shield, ordered the plus just now.
From where?
365 still smaller if anything having both makes sense
I was always a Glock fanboy until Glock introduced the g42 instead of the g43. I purchased one of the very first batch of shield 9 w/o an external safety. That gun has change my prospective and I purchased a gen 1 full size as well. The triggers are not great but usable and upgradable thanks to apex. I have never wanted to change my carry away from the shield as it is a great overall package. The plus having the extra capacity at the same size and a trigger similar to what the upgrade option is a winner. I’m hoping they will come out with a combo package with the 3 & 4 inch slides. Great review thank you.
The hinge trigger was always the reason I’d opt for a Glock over a S&W. When I finally got my M&P 2.0 subcompact, I put an Apex flatty in it and it fixed the issue entirely. I’m so glad S&W moved on from that shitty trigger!
I’m a proud owner of an MP Shield 9mm and I solved the “capacity” problem very easy, I purchased 2 Magguts springs ( plus 2 rounds ) and I’m ready to go, very very sweet gun to carry. I’m a huge Glock fan boy ( do own G26 Gen 4 and I’m almost ready for a G23 Gen 5 ) but I have a sweet spot for the MP Shiel 9mm.
I appreciate the fact that your shooting footage isn't 10x louder than your commentary. I listen to these videos at work sometimes and it scares the hell out of me when some channels don't level out the volume
Don't watch our videos from a few years back then...it will scare the hell out of you. I'm glad it's coming through good for you though
@@Hegshot87 I've been supporting since those days. only so much you can do when you are starting a channel. we went on our concealed carry journey almost simultaneously. you guys were a bit ahead of me but I learned along with you. Keep it up!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
Love my shield “1.0” but just bought a glock 43x MOS with the shield s15 mags because of the limited capacity. I’m still more accurate with my shield though.
I've wanted them to improve the trigger for years, I absolutely hate that 2 part trigger on my shield but love the firearm itself. Good job Smith and Wesson.
This one seems like it will trap dirt.
I already love S&W. Now, higher concealed capacity?! 😍
The single con of the Shield is demonstrated perfectly at 6:31 😂
I know a lot of people criticize the Shield for having a stiff slide release. But I’ve only had a problem with it when trying to drop the slide on an empty chamber with an empty magazine. Trying to drop the slide using the slide release when the follower is pushing up on it is extremely difficult.
Ironically, when I shoot to slide lock, drop the empty mag, insert a fresh full mag, and then drop the slide using the slide release, I don’t have a problem. There’s no upward pressure from the follower.
Go figure. It doesn’t seem to be a problem when running the gun with live ammo so I don’t think it’s a flaw. A lot of shooters would say you shouldn’t be dropping the slide on an empty chamber anyway.
I hope this clears up the issue for you and I hope I described the process in a way that makes sense. If you run the gun with live ammo and reload from slide lock with fresh magazines, I don’t think the slide release is an issue.
One of the reasons I loved the shield was that it felt like a full sized pistol in hand and while shooting for a sub compact pistol. Just wish Smith would have thought outside the box a little more with a higher capacity mag in the original version (at least a 10+1).
Great review on the Shield Plus. Agree on the trigger. I have upgraded all my M&P triggers with Apex kits.
I have the 1st shield. Love that gun.. can’t let that go.. but now for my 2nd gun it WAS gonna be the 365 but now SW might be the one
Just ordered based in part on your thorough & complete review. Thank you.
I’ve been stalking the 2.0 for a while. When the plus came out I watched a lot of reviews then went to the gun store and did as side by side with several competitors. The plus felt better to hold s and point. Bought it, took it home as nd fired a few rounds. It’s a little snappy but not bad for a 20 oz gun. I like it a lot!!
I used to have the M&P Shield the first gen and loved carrying it. I traded it for a G26 ( I know I probably shouldn't have ) but I def wanna get my hands on one of the Shield Plus's and see how it goes. I have no doubt it is an awesome gun as being said.
Huge improvement with larger round count BUT lack of rail for gun light negates that im goi ng with the Glock43x MOS as a result...
I just upgraded the sights and trigger on my Hellcat but I am going to check this out once it is in stock!
Good luck,,, can’t find pistols anywhere right now
Ruger just introduced the Max-9
Don't forget Ruger just came out with their own Micro 9 too....the Ruger Max 9 that comes with an affordable price.
I’ve always hated S&W’s triggers. Love their pistols and now even more with the new trigger.
The new trigger means nothing here in MA....still will suk at 10 pounds
I couldn’t care less about the trigger pull, I’m just happy they ditched the hinge.
To bad the slide release still sucks .
No night sights either. Come on man.
Got the M&P 2.0 9mm compact with the stock trigger. No issues , it works and feels just fine, and doesn't effect accuracy. No need to upgrade the trigger. Work on your shooting instead of changing parts. The slide release and slide stop are perfect where they are. Don't see the issue with those either.
Great gun overall. Love S&W. And compared to Glock, they have WAY better stock sights that are accurate, and made of steel not plastic.
@@mariosangermano5709 its demonstrated on video of the hinge trigger has a false reset and how difficult it is to use the slide release
Picked up mine yesterday...shot 100 rounds today...FMJ and JHP...Ummm 365..hellcat ...43x....YALL HAVE A PROBLEM!...this is the best shooting of the lot...LOVE IT!!
Would love to see a head to head video of this and the new Ruger Max-9.
Same here... gonna be a close one folks!!
@@ryanbrown938 ruger max is ugly compared to the plus..
And we already know the shield is proven piece so why even bother.
@@sswcubes Just like S&W, Ruger is a well established company that has its fan base.... so.... why not??
@@ryanbrown938 when i come across two women in my path i usually go for the prettiest.
@@sswcubes I go for the smart ones
Good video bro!
If Smith would put that new trigger on all of their models, they would sell so much more!
M2.0 compact is a fkn fantastic gun, too. I love mine in 40S&W.
The shield is back, leading the way!
It's not leading the way; it's following Sig Sauer. That's a good thing though. More subcompacts like the P365 will encourage more innovation.
More like catching up to the competition.
It's about time.
Competition makes these companies innovate.
Smooth trigger up fast/easy by working it AFTER dry fire. Don't pull slide, just work trigger 2-300 times. Grit melts away.
On the PLUS model the polymer frame is ceracoated to precisely match the
color/sheen of the frame. With ALL other Shields the frame is more grayish & doesn't match the slide color.
Just bought one yesterday. Here in CA it comes with two 10 rd flush mags and a pinky extension for one mag in the box. Can't wait to get a few rounds in to see how it shoots. I always liked my s&w 5906 that my dad bought in the 90s but that weighs twice as much.
Nothing groundbreaking. A nice upgrade, but the 365 and hellcat are eating its lunch right now. Ruger has a new 9 with 10 and 12 round mags.
I think it was a smart move on their part to upgrade the well-liked shield. The biggest knock on all the single stack 9's from the last 6 years has been the low capacity. This is a great way to get back into the capacity wars without having to spend the money on R&D for a brand new platform. Now Walther needs to get their sh*t together and make a PPS/CCP with higher capacity, instead of that PDP. I'm afraid they are too late at this point though.
Single stack 9mm days are over! Glock 42 will always be my fav go to cc! So light and comfortable to cc. Easy to shoot. 7+1 is all i need.
I'm going to get one, I will probably trade in my G26 that I really don't care for, I have all of the Shield, so yeah I love the S&W Shield.
Love my shield 1.0 but I just upgraded to the M&P 2.0 9c with 3.6 barrel 15rd mags.
I have had the original Shield for about five years and love it. I would have bought the Shield Plus when it came available in CA but, in my humble opinion Smith and Wesson shot themselves in both feet by not offering us in CA one optic ready! That drove most of faithful Smith and Wesson people to Sig and Springfield. I rest my case.
And I was honestly thinking about getting an OG Shield....nevermind.
I've got the OG Shield, one of my favorites for sure.
Just picked one up today. My EDC has been a P365 for quite a while now. I stayed away from the Shield because I bought an original in .40 when I was on the job (also my carry round) and I hated it. I think I will be very happy with this new one. Thanks for the video!
I may become interested when they offer it in S&W .40.
Thank you for the thorough review brother. I’m looking to replace my Glock 43. I’ve always owned and trained on Berettas, Glocks and S&Ws. I think this one is going to be my new EDC.
Just picked one up for 350 shipped brand new from abguns. Just started my 7 day wait today, can't wait to get it and get to practicing with it!
I understand this gun They’ve sold something like 2million shields. So it’s an upgrade in capacity. But the performance center 🤦♂️. Optics ready only on the 4” . That 4” gun makes zero sense. Just carry a g19 size gun at that point. The 3.1” gun should have had optics and an available ported barrel from the start. Also why are you putting a fiber optic rear sight on a optics gun. “Yes let’s have a red dot with red fiber optic rear sight to distract you”.
Lol hopefully I can pick up a used one cheap
I like what I see with this.
Great video, yeah this looks like a great weapon. This gun sales for $379 at academy, sports and outdoors.
I’m still waiting on that Walthers PDP review! I’m thinking about picking that one up as my first gun
Cracked Crow just hope that you do not have to use Walther customer service
Love my 4.5” PDP!
@@allenc4909 anything you don’t like about it?
Front sight is a little tall compared to my previous PPQ. Still getting used to that.
PDP 4” with full size frame is fantastic new trigger and grip feel great and clip release works super. Recommend highly.
I’ll be completely honest.
The ONLY reason I even watched this video was the trigger!
Now I need to try one!
It's an amazing upgrade! Well done, S&W, well done!
Glock43 user. I never saw the original Shield but saw all the videos. I suggested the MP Shield Plus to a new CCW guy to try out. Later, we both went to the range and I got to try it out. I’m now conducting my own testing to see how much better I shoot the Shield. 😬
I Carry a Shield 2.0 AND a 9mm EZ. One thing I hate about the 2.0 was the extended Mag magwell plastic buffer thing that always seemed to shift a bit and prevent a clean drop of the mag out of the well and I would invariably end up having to pull it out (which, after grabbing my reload mag, would be problematic in training - and in a real fight, I would imagine). I'm really happy to see that it's one piece now as that was going to be a request of mine at the gun dealer; see how the extended mag dropped.
Yes, the 10 round standard is cool, but for the EZ and the 2.0, I purchased three extra extended mags for each gun, and that's what I carry with me.
Can't wait to get my hands on one; if it's that good, I'll get a second one for a back up.
Just subscribed, great video, thanks!
The Shield plus is an awesome firearm and has replaced the Glock 43x as my EDC.
The S&W Shield plus is the first handgun I've purchased that wasn't a Sig since the first Sig i bought back in the 90's, i actually went in to buy a 365.
Smith & Wesson knocked this one out of the park!
I'm going to have to check out the Shield Plus now.
But I do have a $800 plus P365XL awesome weapon.
This new Shield really, really, sucks because now I have to go out and buy one. I'm not make out of money S&W, you know that right?
Well now you have a stimmy check 😎
@@relentlezz091 you mean my ammo check? Lol
@@resolute123 true. I just make sure I purchase stuff when my wife doesn't check accounts 😬😬
I own a lot of carry pistols and this is my favorite
Even over the Xmacro
The size, trigger and price
Can’t beat it
You can beat the crap out of it and keeps on going
Great gun
Very excited about this. Nice work getting the review out before everybody else! Big fan of the channel
Loving it so far; thanks for a helpful review.
Just ordered a Shield EZ THREE DAYS AGO! Well, let's see how it goes with that one... can always replace with this if circumstances warrant it. I love an 8+1 capacity, but would have loved even more!
I liked my m&p 9mm ez...but hated the palm safety and that it had no thumb safety....I traded in my ez for the new shield plus got $330 on the trade in
I'm certain I would like shooting this better than my P365. But it's still larger and doesn't conceal quite as well as the P365. Finding the right combination between shootability and concealability is always the toughest thing to figure out. I know some say why not both, but for conceal carry I prefer consistency, because it may not always register in a split second which gun I have on.
Everyone talks about the shield plus fitting existing holsters, but nobody says anything about the magazines! I carry my 1.0 shield on a sidecar holster, with a backup mag, I doubt I’ll be able to use it with the new mags.
Excellent. It has been coming. Surprised S&W didn't beat everyone else to the punch.
I wonder if they will give the .45 M&P 2.0 an update, it would be very welcome!
That would be sweet. 9+1 45. in a flush mag and I'd be impressed
I need another semi auto pistol like I need another hole in my head but if they come out with a “Shield plus” in 45acp I’ll definitely get it! 👍🏻😏
8:07 this is how a man fires right here. If you have any questions about muzzle flip or control ever just look at this section and ask “am I doing it like this?”
Very well-done and helpful review. And good shooting from 10-12 yards. Thanks!
I love Sig ..my opinion the P226 is king. Which I own, I also have a Beretta 92fs because...why not? I feel like Martin Riggs and John McClane would approve. But for my " carry gun" I listened to friends and bought a Glock 19 gen 5 with tritium sights. Not a bad gun at all...But. I was thinking it wouldn't be bad to have an even smaller gun and I was thinking about the p365 now I'm not so sure because this s&w shield plus looks very interesting
Maybe personal preference, I prefer the ceracoated frame.
I bought this gun last week and like the overall consistent appearance that it now has, with the bonus of additional protection.
Gun companies love me as I usually purchase the latest and greatest CCW at the time. Have a Sig 365 that I had the slide custom milled to accommodate a Holosun red dot. To each their own but having buyers remorse for the red dot on SD use. Great at the range and definitely more accurate, but in a SD situation that dot is not always in place when you draw. Maybe more practice would help. Believe I'm going to switch to the Plus with my favorite Amerglo Pro I-Dot sights as my new CCW. My first carry gun was the Shield 1.0, so the sights and holsters I already own will work. Thanks for the review.
I wish the slide release was functional.
And it came with night sights. Only two cons of the plus
Seems like cerakoting the plastic frame is just an unnecessary waste of money and could have been omitted to save a few production dollars and time. Hopefully they'll drop that and lower the price, or have it as an option for Performance Center models.
I just got mine today. Love it so far.
The plus is very interesting. I still love my shield 2.0 tho.
I think it’s a great gun. I have the 9&45 shields 2.0. I switch them out for EDC but now I may have to get the Plus. S&W is putting out some winners. Also love the EZ’s. As I get older if I lose my had dexterity I will go to the EZ’s. My daughters love those guns. Who knows maybe they will double stack those one day. Great shooters. Stay safe out there.
Just got mine today, it's a great and solid gun. Gonna get some rounds off at the range soon.
great review! was looking into the 2.0 compact but I will be buying the shield plus! thx brother
Had to add a pinky extension to my OG too.... It just feels rite
I got the NDZ for mine and really like it.
Liked your comments. But the range footage...zoom-in closer so we can actually see each round hit the targets. As it is we're looking at targets and your arms/gun move over and over..heh..Was this your own range or a public range? There are black target sheets I think with a day-glo base layer so that when shot you easily see where the round passed through. Forget the brand...you could use them in the future...
The gun...Looks like THE "carry" gun to have. Betters the competition in every way. P365 coming in a close 2nd...the XL.
The Shield + will be an all time best seller. It will fill many roles of gun ownership and it improves on most all of the short comings of earlier models. However the slide release is still bad. Now if we just had some ammo things would be good to go. LOL
My is stiff but does work and releases the slide.
Getting the mag to click in with the flush 10 rd mag is a bit of a challenge during speed drills. It needs a butt plate
nice to see your review, thank to compare with the P365. I got the P365 and now I know that if I buy the shield its not by a need, just for the whim to have it. The shield Plus looks great, nice capacity the only thing that I dislike is that she didnt came with safty thumb. I didnt use on my P365 but like to have it.
I have both, the original shield and the new shield plus, the old shield slide worked on the shield plus frame and the shield plus slide worked on the old shield frame. At least on my 2 copys they do.
Really liking the look of this one
I think the glossy look of the Shield Plus makes it look like it's actually part of the gun. What I mean by that it matches the tone of the slide.
Damn. I wish they'd kept the agressive grip pattern like the 2.0 has. Or at least offer changeable backstraps like the 2.0. That agressive grip texturing really makes a nice difference.
One of the reasons I’m opting to stay with my 2.0 shield and 3.6 2.0 9c
I know they listen to peoples complaints they shouldn’t listen to some people will complain about anything. M&P used to chamber a round themselves like my CZ P10c when you reload and now they no longer do that because of people complaining for no reason. I have a 2.0 and that’s my only complaint about it is they got rid of the auto chamber feature that was on it with a reinforcement bar on the slide lock.
You already what comes next. We need a Hellcat vs Shield Plus vs Glock 43 vs P365
Even Taurus is offering an optic cut now, S&W is still behind
This is what I ended up with though mine is slightly different than either of the ones shown, it’s approved for my state, no safety. I’m getting used to carrying it somewhat, though I can’t say it’s easy to conceal imo. These days you have to carry sadly. Customer service at s&w obviously don’t love their jobs which makes me feel less disposed to their products.
I love S&W but the sig with the little Romeo dot sight a blind man could shoot good with it.
They are releasing a variation of this with an optic
They need this in 40 S&W good video