I think, if you had one more of those batteries you would be in great shape. Probably one of the best systems out there with one more battery! Also LiTime has a 230 amp hour 24 volt battery for $1,169.
@@lindsaywhite4502 max you can run is 4 in parallel, anymore batteries and I’ll start running into weight issues, three of the 230amp hours batteries weight almost as much as four of these but less power.
@@saltytrips Yeah, I understand my friend. I still think one more 200 amp hour 24 volt battery will put you in a great place. I think one less worry about power and again you would have a great system 👊
I'm following every video on this - we're camper brothers right now. We have similar motivations, we have dogs and want complete flexibility. I had commented on your Facebook post that I am building an extremely similar system. We just got back from a weeklong trip, and I got to run some tests as well. One night we got an awesome spot on a river that was only available because there were no hookups. I'm looking at adding some more USB ports in our bedroom, because we only have a couple of AC loads (Microwave, A/C's, TV, Ice maker) and can often turn off at night. Right now, I just have the stock 370 watt solar panel, and I've been impressed with its ability to charge the battery bank. I want to replace with 2000+ watts, and I think that will work well for running 1-2 A/C's and stay reasonably charged. In July, we're adding solar, so I'm hoping you add yours before I do. 🙂
If you want your batteries to last longer while running your A/Cs, I recommend getting more efficient A/Cs. We removed the rooftop A/C we had in the bedroom and replaced it with an EG4 28.5 seer-2, 12k btu mini-split heat pump on the upper rear of our motorhome. It's super quiet. In fact, we can't even hear it running unless it's in turbo mode. It draws less than 1/2 the power of our front 14.5k soft start equipped Furrion rooftop AC but cools just as well. It provides 13,000btus of heat too, which saves us a lot of propane. We have 2 house batteries, a 7.1 Kwh 12v (560ah) battery and a 15.3 Kwh 48v (320ah) battery for our 120v ac needs provides 24/7 off-grid air conditioning and heat from the heat pump. Our 4,400w solar array is racked 15" off our roof. It can run both A/Cs, our household appliances and charge our 48v battery at the same time, even in winter. We also have a liftable 620w array on the side of our motorhome to charge our 12v battery with. Our side array makes a nice bedroom window awning too, practically lifting itself with a couple gas struts, and it's easy to clean, standing safely on the ground. We use a small 1,000w 12v inverter for back-up of mission critical 120v equipment, like our 55" UHD TV, entertainment center, computer and ice maker, should our 48v system ever go down. We have a Sungold Power all-in-one 48V, 5,000W Inverter/100A charge controller/battery charger, breakers and a Lnex battery monitor on the wall in our bedroom, saving us space as well as money compared to a system built with individual components, as we're old folk who built our system ourselves on a tight retiree budget over a period of 5 years. We built both batteries ourselves using raw cells. Our 12v battery is protected by a 330a (1,200a surge) Heltec BMS with a 5a active balancer and our 48v battery uses a 200a BMS to keep the cells synched and safe. We couldn't afford to use name brand components like Victron and Battleborn, so we took our time, researched and found quality lesser-known components for a fraction of the price. For instance, we have the equivalent storage capacity as $16,650 worth of 100ah Battleborn batteries for under $3,400. Our all-in-one inverter/charger/charge controller takes the place of many components, yet the inverter has the same 95% conversion efficiency and 99% charging efficiency as the Victron units do, but we found it for only $726 including shipping. So in total, we have 6,000 watts of 120v inverted ac power available, 23.5kwh of batteries and 5,020 watts of solar, giving us off-grid electrical independence without the need to plug into a power pole or run our generator. Our total budget was around $11,500, including the $1,500 high-efficiency heat pump. Take care, hope to see you down the road one day.
Another excellent video! Ive been following along and your doing exactly what ive planned to do. Ive pulled in 2 runs of wires to go from the breaker panel to the invertor location on friday. Monday i went and picked up all my victron components and was shocked that the dealer was cheaper than amazon. So ill be starting my install as well. Nxt is to start buying batteries.
… my second inverter was on sale on Amazon for just over $1,100, so far these LiTime batteries have been great weight less and take up less space than most other brands. Just pick something you’ll be happy with.
One issue you will run into if you haven't already is setting the max AC input value. With the inverters paralleled the minimum is 18.6 amps. I have a big generator that can support that but prefer to use a Honda 2200. Added two Victron Energy Blue Smart IP22 24-Volt 16 amp so I can supplement/charge the batteries while using them. Each pulls 460 watts off the generator and puts about the same into the system.
Morning, I just caught some of your Ford truck videos, we have a similar truck, I have the 2022 Ford F250 XLT 7.3 gas with the 3:55 rear end. I really like the truck, Love the engine!! Are you having any transmission issues? Just not totally sold on transmission. I tow a travel trailer at max 8K lbs. Accelerating up thru the gears is fine, but slowing down, gearing down, a few hard shifts is concerning. Also just a recommendation, I purchased the TigerTough seat covers, custom fit, very durable, best accessory I have purchased so far!!! Stay Safe!! Have Fun!!
I use this formula, for every 100 watts you use all day, 4.8 kw battery. I use 14kw (600 watts per hour) a day and 48kw battery lasts 2.4 days tops. If you have an RV on solar power 3kw inverter minimum. I also use a portable ac only 600 watts with all the insulation I have, at 95f it is cold in here. A 1500 watt load all day I would get 72kw battery bank. If you use a lot of generator power get a soft start as the ac surge can cause the frequency to spike low then high and trip the inverter to stop charging, if you encounter that problem with no ON ac turn off the fridge and freezer while you charge with the generator. After my first year and 105 straight days of clouds I learned to put as much solar as possible, 8kw to 13kw this year.
Another great video! I just ordered the 3rd battery for my system . A question from your last video when wiring the multiplus’s in parallel to the junction boxes. I believe you said the wires must be equal length . I’m awaiting to hear back from Nate from Explorist to get his knowledge on this but do you think there is any wiggle room on this ? I’m having a challenge to fit them in my current plan as those 6/4 wires are so stiff and bulky. Thanks again
I built a very similar parallel 2x120 system about a year ago. Everything I read expressed the importance of the wire lengths matching when paralleling the Multiplus IIs.
@@saltytrips in the manual it only refers to the DC connection wires equal length . It doesn’t refer to the AC wires . I’m reworking my plans anyways for equal wire length Thanks
Great details, math does not lie. I was expecting that you would have more than enough power to go an entire day but, not the case. I guess now the question is how much solar??
@@saltytrips I already have 2 solar panels but, have lead acid batteries. I would just like to upgrade to some Li batteries because of weight and their ability to charge quickly. I look forward to the next video. Keep On Camping!!
24v fit the bill just fine 👍, if i had some 240v systems or a much larger battery bank or three inverters then probably would have went 48v. 48v is a bit overkill for this application.
I think, if you had one more of those batteries you would be in great shape. Probably one of the best systems out there with one more battery!
Also LiTime has a 230 amp hour 24 volt battery for $1,169.
@@lindsaywhite4502 max you can run is 4 in parallel, anymore batteries and I’ll start running into weight issues, three of the 230amp hours batteries weight almost as much as four of these but less power.
@@saltytrips
Yeah, I understand my friend.
I still think one more 200 amp hour 24 volt battery will put you in a great place.
I think one less worry about power and again you would have a great system 👊
I'm following every video on this - we're camper brothers right now. We have similar motivations, we have dogs and want complete flexibility. I had commented on your Facebook post that I am building an extremely similar system. We just got back from a weeklong trip, and I got to run some tests as well. One night we got an awesome spot on a river that was only available because there were no hookups.
I'm looking at adding some more USB ports in our bedroom, because we only have a couple of AC loads (Microwave, A/C's, TV, Ice maker) and can often turn off at night.
Right now, I just have the stock 370 watt solar panel, and I've been impressed with its ability to charge the battery bank. I want to replace with 2000+ watts, and I think that will work well for running 1-2 A/C's and stay reasonably charged.
In July, we're adding solar, so I'm hoping you add yours before I do. 🙂
Solar video will be out in the next week or two
If you want your batteries to last longer while running your A/Cs, I recommend getting more efficient A/Cs. We removed the rooftop A/C we had in the bedroom and replaced it with an EG4 28.5 seer-2, 12k btu mini-split heat pump on the upper rear of our motorhome. It's super quiet. In fact, we can't even hear it running unless it's in turbo mode. It draws less than 1/2 the power of our front 14.5k soft start equipped Furrion rooftop AC but cools just as well. It provides 13,000btus of heat too, which saves us a lot of propane.
We have 2 house batteries, a 7.1 Kwh 12v (560ah) battery and a 15.3 Kwh 48v (320ah) battery for our 120v ac needs provides 24/7 off-grid air conditioning and heat from the heat pump. Our 4,400w solar array is racked 15" off our roof. It can run both A/Cs, our household appliances and charge our 48v battery at the same time, even in winter. We also have a liftable 620w array on the side of our motorhome to charge our 12v battery with. Our side array makes a nice bedroom window awning too, practically lifting itself with a couple gas struts, and it's easy to clean, standing safely on the ground. We use a small 1,000w 12v inverter for back-up of mission critical 120v equipment, like our 55" UHD TV, entertainment center, computer and ice maker, should our 48v system ever go down.
We have a Sungold Power all-in-one 48V, 5,000W Inverter/100A charge controller/battery charger, breakers and a Lnex battery monitor on the wall in our bedroom, saving us space as well as money compared to a system built with individual components, as we're old folk who built our system ourselves on a tight retiree budget over a period of 5 years. We built both batteries ourselves using raw cells. Our 12v battery is protected by a 330a (1,200a surge) Heltec BMS with a 5a active balancer and our 48v battery uses a 200a BMS to keep the cells synched and safe. We couldn't afford to use name brand components like Victron and Battleborn, so we took our time, researched and found quality lesser-known components for a fraction of the price. For instance, we have the equivalent storage capacity as $16,650 worth of 100ah Battleborn batteries for under $3,400. Our all-in-one inverter/charger/charge controller takes the place of many components, yet the inverter has the same 95% conversion efficiency and 99% charging efficiency as the Victron units do, but we found it for only $726 including shipping. So in total, we have 6,000 watts of 120v inverted ac power available, 23.5kwh of batteries and 5,020 watts of solar, giving us off-grid electrical independence without the need to plug into a power pole or run our generator. Our total budget was around $11,500, including the $1,500 high-efficiency heat pump. Take care, hope to see you down the road one day.
I’m definitely following. Looking forward too seeing a solar installation at a later date.
Soon, stay tuned 👍
Another excellent video! Ive been following along and your doing exactly what ive planned to do. Ive pulled in 2 runs of wires to go from the breaker panel to the invertor location on friday. Monday i went and picked up all my victron components and was shocked that the dealer was cheaper than amazon. So ill be starting my install as well. Nxt is to start buying batteries.
… my second inverter was on sale on Amazon for just over $1,100, so far these LiTime batteries have been great weight less and take up less space than most other brands. Just pick something you’ll be happy with.
One issue you will run into if you haven't already is setting the max AC input value. With the inverters paralleled the minimum is 18.6 amps. I have a big generator that can support that but prefer to use a Honda 2200. Added two Victron Energy Blue Smart IP22 24-Volt 16 amp so I can supplement/charge the batteries while using them. Each pulls 460 watts off the generator and puts about the same into the system.
Morning, I just caught some of your Ford truck videos, we have a similar truck, I have the 2022 Ford F250 XLT 7.3 gas with the 3:55 rear end. I really like the truck, Love the engine!! Are you having any transmission issues? Just not totally sold on transmission. I tow a travel trailer at max 8K lbs. Accelerating up thru the gears is fine, but slowing down, gearing down, a few hard shifts is concerning. Also just a recommendation, I purchased the TigerTough seat covers, custom fit, very durable, best accessory I have purchased so far!!! Stay Safe!! Have Fun!!
It was a little clunky at first but its pretty smooth now, they told me it has “adaptive learning” 🤷♂️, but now its fine.
I use this formula, for every 100 watts you use all day, 4.8 kw battery. I use 14kw (600 watts per hour) a day and 48kw battery lasts 2.4 days tops. If you have an RV on solar power 3kw inverter minimum. I also use a portable ac only 600 watts with all the insulation I have, at 95f it is cold in here. A 1500 watt load all day I would get 72kw battery bank. If you use a lot of generator power get a soft start as the ac surge can cause the frequency to spike low then high and trip the inverter to stop charging, if you encounter that problem with no ON ac turn off the fridge and freezer while you charge with the generator. After my first year and 105 straight days of clouds I learned to put as much solar as possible, 8kw to 13kw this year.
@@bigtbongosbarbarakapernic it should give every build 2 days of power
Great video, I wonder how long will 4 Li Time batteries last. Looking forward to you solar. Safe travels
Here’s the solar ruclips.net/video/sUMpSowNvSk/видео.htmlsi=4NJnLLw15M10SyJG
Another great video! I just ordered the 3rd battery for my system .
A question from your last video when wiring the multiplus’s in parallel to the junction boxes. I believe you said the wires must be equal length . I’m awaiting to hear back from Nate from
Explorist to get his knowledge on this but do you think there is any wiggle room on this ? I’m having a challenge to fit them in my current plan as those 6/4 wires are so stiff and bulky. Thanks again
I built a very similar parallel 2x120 system about a year ago. Everything I read expressed the importance of the wire lengths matching when paralleling the Multiplus IIs.
@@usmcrtr thanks for your imput! Ya, I’m coming to the same conclusion. I am currently reconfiguring my layout as I type this .
Victron says wire should be equal lengths. As far as how much wiggle room I’m not sure, I would do my best to make the equal as you can.
@@saltytrips in the manual it only refers to the DC connection wires equal length . It doesn’t refer to the AC wires . I’m reworking my plans anyways for equal wire length
Thanks
Equal =no resistance 😊
With no solar, how are the batteries charging, through shore power or are you able to charge with your truck?
Victron Multiplus can charge them through shore but we have solar now ruclips.net/video/sUMpSowNvSk/видео.htmlsi=0mqE3gh-QIe0KiFG
Great details, math does not lie. I was expecting that you would have more than enough power to go an entire day but, not the case. I guess now the question is how much solar??
That video will be out soon, in the next week or two 👍
@@saltytrips I already have 2 solar panels but, have lead acid batteries. I would just like to upgrade to some Li batteries because of weight and their ability to charge quickly. I look forward to the next video. Keep On Camping!!
All new Why did you not use 48v batteries?
24v fit the bill just fine 👍, if i had some 240v systems or a much larger battery bank or three inverters then probably would have went 48v. 48v is a bit overkill for this application.