I am fortunate enough to own both amps . love them both . Hard for me to say which sounds " better " . I feel they sound equally great , just different .
The Mark can be set close to the Rec sound. Its just down to the specific choice of the Vidmaker which tone, EQ wattage speaker etc etc Trying to sum up an amp as versatile as the Mark V in one subjective clip of one mode is like trying to describe the shape of the T-1000 in T2 just by it's 'cop mode' appearance. Select Extreme mode: Jam the 2200hz slider to full along with the 80 hz, scoop the 200hz slider to just under Mid, Keep the mid slider all the way off, the 6600hz down to halfish and you start to get there. In pentode. Especially with the V4 mod.Dial the preamp Eq bass heavy and with loads of gain. Prescence like half way. Then theres not much in it.
@@jmcsquared18 Good ear; the recto is essentially a modified SLO-100, which itself is basically a hot-rodded plexi. The Mesa Mark series is derived from some blackface fender amps, and you can still see the influence in the tone stack for instance, but it's had to change a lot to accommodate the high gain. The graphic eq is part of that, because the tone stack is pre-gain just as in a typical Fender, and that allows for a lot of flexibility in shaping the tone and the distortion, which can sound 'modern' if you dial it that way. Another cool thing is that the lead stage always has some clean mixed in, which helps to keep the bass from getting muddy and the treble from getting fizzy.
Both are so different..I do feel like there is nothing like a boosted rectifier ,that almost cannot be beaten..however the Mark V is so versatile and still sounds incredible.
The Mark V kinda has that swept sound (mainly bc of the 5-band eq) but it also has that pretty polished and naturally compressed sound that I like. The Dual Rectifier has that more raw, grittier sound that I also like a lot. Both are amps I hope to get in the future.
When I owned the mark v, I didn't like the sound with the mids pushed or even flat on the 5 band EQ. It sounded very honky. Sadly I also got lost in the live mix when playing with a band with another guitar player.
the Mark when youre the only guitarist in the band, because of the midrange it has more this sound of wall feeling. definitely the Recto when 2 guits are playing because of a better assertiveness and more (agressive) clearness.
+DimeWyldeSynTremonti Keep screwing around with that head brother. They take a LONG time to dial in. That being said, I have a modern 3 channel Voodoo DR head. I'd sell my balls before I parted with that thing. It's killer. I'm thinking of trading my Orange rockerverb 100 mk1 for an offer for a MkV. You can get some killer tones dialed in with one of those suckers.
+Adrian Stock yeah I know what you mean. I wasn't sure I made the right choice for the first few weeks, but I've learned my way around it and can get basically every sound I want out of it. It really needs some volume to shine, but oh man can it shine. I LOVE the DR's tone here, but I've reached a point where I don't believe I'll ever part with my Mark V. I'll just have to get a DR to put next to it. I can't quite get the Mark to do the rectifier sound; it's just voiced much too differently, but with an eq in the loop and a boost out front, I can get scary close with Mark 1 mode on channel 2 and Mark IV mode on channel 3. Stupid good modern metal tones, and of course the lead tones are to die for; so expressive and dynamic. Boogies are fricken awesome.
Just add some presence and treble and youll get there. the mark is alot less sharp and more throaty, sits tight and fat in the mix withotu being overpowering
The Mark V actually has the same frequencies in the output, but the Dual Rectifier has cut some of the cut mids out. Compared to an orange, they have the mids in... At this point, either one will do the job unless you really want the all of the mids. Mark V
In my experience, the dual rec is more muted sounding and loose and sounds old compared to the mark v which is extremely clear, open, and tight. More modern high gain sound. Also more versatile. If you want that particular loose and muffled vintagy character, dual rec could be for you.
Both sound awesome............... The dual has a little more energy but the mark V has a more vintage classic metal tone to it. With the Mark V I think kinda of Metallica. I think Metallica used the Mark IIC+ with a Marshall cab for a while
You scooped the mids in the markV i think.... To my ears the recto sounds better in this video... But i tried the markV and i think is one of the best sounding amp on the planet... I don't remember the recto how it sounds
I own both a Mesa Mark IV and a Mesa Trem-o-verb Dual Rectifier. Love the Mesa Mark IV to death but it is not my Mesa Trem-o-verb. The Trem-o-verb kills every Mesa or other amp I have ever played.
Put a gun to my head I'm gonna go Dual Rec all the way everyday, but I have a platinum Voodoo modded 3 channel, and it smokes the road kings and anything else out there. Still....I would love to own a MkV. They both sound great, again instant "desert island for life" amp head...gotta go Dual Rec, but that MkV kills it. They take a WHILE to dial in though, be patient.
The mark v sounds too compressed almost like trying to hit that old school Marshall tone but way too processed. The Dual sounds more loose and warm with more punch just wished it had the fast attacks and tights of old school Marshall otherwise the dual rect owns.
Stating my bias now because I have a dual recto. Though the rectifier seems to have a sloshy and looser tone, I still like it more due to it's distinctive sound. The mark V sounds great(perhaps better) but both are so versatile and hard to compare with one setting on each. I just know that the recto no matter what setting your on seems to have that delayed, almost chorus effect that I love and defined the late 90s and early 2000s.
John Doe man it's tight and chunky, maybe a little raspy. But you can see he's got that middle slider all the way down. Definitely not the way I would run it. Then again I have the IV.
Both sound killer but Dual Rectifier is that goddamn modern tone !
Liked these tones, Cheers Brother !
Rectifier all the way baby, that 90s crushing metal tone. You got some great riffs and tones here
I am fortunate enough to own both amps . love them both . Hard for me to say which sounds " better " . I feel they sound equally great , just different .
Definitely
My eyes choose the mark , but my ears choose the rec. People aren't kidding about the 2ch vs 3 ch rec debate, this one sounds bone crushing.
The Mark can be set close to the Rec sound. Its just down to the specific choice of the Vidmaker which tone, EQ wattage speaker etc etc Trying to sum up an amp as versatile as the Mark V in one subjective clip of one mode is like trying to describe the shape of the T-1000 in T2 just by it's 'cop mode' appearance. Select Extreme mode: Jam the 2200hz slider to full along with the 80 hz, scoop the 200hz slider to just under Mid, Keep the mid slider all the way off, the 6600hz down to halfish and you start to get there. In pentode. Especially with the V4 mod.Dial the preamp Eq bass heavy and with loads of gain. Prescence like half way. Then theres not much in it.
Definitely the Mark V. I like the mid range presence.
Yeah it definitely sounds more modern, like the bottom end is tightly saturated; whereas the Recta sounds more classic.
@@jmcsquared18 Good ear; the recto is essentially a modified SLO-100, which itself is basically a hot-rodded plexi. The Mesa Mark series is derived from some blackface fender amps, and you can still see the influence in the tone stack for instance, but it's had to change a lot to accommodate the high gain. The graphic eq is part of that, because the tone stack is pre-gain just as in a typical Fender, and that allows for a lot of flexibility in shaping the tone and the distortion, which can sound 'modern' if you dial it that way. Another cool thing is that the lead stage always has some clean mixed in, which helps to keep the bass from getting muddy and the treble from getting fizzy.
Both are so different..I do feel like there is nothing like a boosted rectifier ,that almost cannot be beaten..however the Mark V is so versatile and still sounds incredible.
The Mark V kinda has that swept sound (mainly bc of the 5-band eq) but it also has that pretty polished and naturally compressed sound that I like. The Dual Rectifier has that more raw, grittier sound that I also like a lot. Both are amps I hope to get in the future.
When I owned the mark v, I didn't like the sound with the mids pushed or even flat on the 5 band EQ. It sounded very honky. Sadly I also got lost in the live mix when playing with a band with another guitar player.
Both sound great. I feel that the mark v could have been dialed in better though and in this video the rectifier sounds better.
the Mark when youre the only guitarist in the band, because of the midrange it has more this sound of wall feeling. definitely the Recto when 2 guits are playing because of a better assertiveness and more (agressive) clearness.
I personally love the sound of the Mark V! It just screams old school metal!!
in a mix the mark would cut and sit the best in my opinion. has a lot of character to the mids and a nice top end
I've definitely heard this riff on other videos...
Yes, u can download the clean riff to reamp or to test something
rumoreassordante may you tell me where I can download the riff? Thanks a lot.
i don't know, a friend of mine gave me the track... sorry
+Raffaele Palombi Look up Lasse Lammert on RUclips, I'm pretty sure he's the guy who made it
No, it's DI from Mago
Mark V all the way.
Rectifier.
Just bought a Mark V. Should have gotten a Rectifier. Damn it. That thing sounds massive.
+DimeWyldeSynTremonti Keep screwing around with that head brother. They take a LONG time to dial in. That being said, I have a modern 3 channel Voodoo DR head. I'd sell my balls before I parted with that thing. It's killer. I'm thinking of trading my Orange rockerverb 100 mk1 for an offer for a MkV. You can get some killer tones dialed in with one of those suckers.
+Adrian Stock yeah I know what you mean. I wasn't sure I made the right choice for the first few weeks, but I've learned my way around it and can get basically every sound I want out of it. It really needs some volume to shine, but oh man can it shine. I LOVE the DR's tone here, but I've reached a point where I don't believe I'll ever part with my Mark V. I'll just have to get a DR to put next to it. I can't quite get the Mark to do the rectifier sound; it's just voiced much too differently, but with an eq in the loop and a boost out front, I can get scary close with Mark 1 mode on channel 2 and Mark IV mode on channel 3. Stupid good modern metal tones, and of course the lead tones are to die for; so expressive and dynamic. Boogies are fricken awesome.
+DimeWyldeSynTremonti yes...yes they are
Just add some presence and treble and youll get there.
the mark is alot less sharp and more throaty, sits tight and fat in the mix withotu being overpowering
The mids are scooped in the vid on the Mark. You should be able to get a closer sound by boosting the mids.
I just sold my dual rectifier and kept the Mark V. It is far more versatile and can be just as brutal without being scooped or loose.
The Mark V actually has the same frequencies in the output, but the Dual Rectifier has cut some of the cut mids out. Compared to an orange, they have the mids in...
At this point, either one will do the job unless you really want the all of the mids. Mark V
In my experience, the dual rec is more muted sounding and loose and sounds old compared to the mark v which is extremely clear, open, and tight. More modern high gain sound. Also more versatile.
If you want that particular loose and muffled vintagy character, dual rec could be for you.
actually prefer the dual. seems to be a hiss on the mark v. dual is also a more energetic tone in my opinion.
I prefer the Dual Rectifier over the Mark V. Then again the scooped sounds are for thrash metal on it.
the rec just pulls your ears drums apart better. rec sounds like a pissed off chainsaw lookin for fresh meat.
Mark V for the win.
Both sound awesome............... The dual has a little more energy but the mark V has a more vintage classic metal tone to it. With the Mark V I think kinda of Metallica. I think Metallica used the Mark IIC+ with a Marshall cab for a while
Nikita Khrushchev Metallica used Mark IV too
Parker Wojtanek I think it was more common for them to use the 2c+ and mark 3
@Parker Wojtanek .... Not on any of their "good" albums ;) Mark IIC+ is the sound of Puppets and Justice...
What does it sound like if you pan recto left and mark right for double tracking?
Amazing im sure.
I would imagine orgasmic
It would sound john pertrucci as thats what he did few times
You scooped the mids in the markV i think.... To my ears the recto sounds better in this video... But i tried the markV and i think is one of the best sounding amp on the planet... I don't remember the recto how it sounds
Mark V gets my vote!
who plays that song? It is AWESOME. Can I buy that? which band is that? Please answer!
I own both a Mesa Mark IV and a Mesa Trem-o-verb Dual Rectifier. Love the Mesa Mark IV to death but it is not my Mesa Trem-o-verb. The Trem-o-verb kills every Mesa or other amp I have ever played.
I used to have one and wish so bad I had kept it.
Its a battle of HOLY FUCK YEAH ! VS FUCKIN A ! VS FUCKIN DAMN RIGHTS!
mark V the best ever !
Mk5 for me, that EQ is the game changer
Both, end of story.
This is the correct answer
Mark V is so particular !! i don't know if i like or hate lol
Put a gun to my head I'm gonna go Dual Rec all the way everyday, but I have a platinum Voodoo modded 3 channel, and it smokes the road kings and anything else out there. Still....I would love to own a MkV. They both sound great, again instant "desert island for life" amp head...gotta go Dual Rec, but that MkV kills it. They take a WHILE to dial in though, be patient.
both sound bad ass. I like the v better.
In this video, rectifier
The tones are fucking amazing, what guitar/pickups/pedals?
The riffs were really fucking good too!
top tone sound!
This reminds me of In Flames
Does the Boogie Throttle pedal through a Mark V sound like a Dual Rect? If does, then that might provide the most options if you only could pick one.
3 channel dual recs do sound as good. Especially if you have it modified to your taste.
what mode on channel 3 of the mk 5 you using?
I don't remember....
Hi, Do you remember the Settings you had on the Recto??Thanks Sounds Awesome
hi, i don't remember
Both are great!!! But different.
what is the guitar being played here?
awesome sound..
My Dual Rectifier doesn't sound like that at all!😕
Which speakers and mics do you use to record it ?
Please tell me how you got the mark 5 to sound like that.
90's recto
Mark growell, Dual growell, different!
Cool led mod) How did you do it? Do you have instructions?
This is a fucking tight comparison.
Of course rectifier sounds better.
why did you have the mark so scooped?
can u make a comparison between these two in the mix?
The mark v sounds too compressed almost like trying to hit that old school Marshall tone but way too processed.
The Dual sounds more loose and warm with more punch just wished it had the fast attacks and tights of old school Marshall otherwise the dual rect owns.
What tube do you use on mark v?
El34 or 6l6?
6l6
I prefer mark v
Mark V !!!
great
Mark V is turned off ... 🤔 how can sound ..
Genius lol
Stating my bias now because I have a dual recto.
Though the rectifier seems to have a sloshy and looser tone, I still like it more due to it's distinctive sound. The mark V sounds great(perhaps better) but both are so versatile and hard to compare with one setting on each. I just know that the recto no matter what setting your on seems to have that delayed, almost chorus effect that I love and defined the late 90s and early 2000s.
You dropped the mids a little too much on the mark for this comparison.
0:01 what's the riff?
Lasse Lammert’s DI riff
Rectifier 🫡🫡🫡🤩🤩🤩🤩😍😍😍
Rectifier !!
metal riff song????
What are the settings on the dual rec?
glen mclain Master: 9:00
Presence: 1:00
Bass: 12:00
Mid: 2:00
Treble: 2:00
Gain: 9:30
Maxon 808:
Overdrive: 0
Balance: 10
Tone: 8
that dr as some serious mid scoop. too much for my liking. I can easily get a much better tone out of my Roadking 2.
Dual rec
what are these boosted with ?
dual rec for me!
MARK 5
Mark V is boosted
Locoandchooch also the DR
...Mark V....
It is just joke
Mesa is best
Mark V all the way. Really Mark IV beats em both at high gain.
Mark V sounds thin in this video. Did not like it at all
John Doe man it's tight and chunky, maybe a little raspy. But you can see he's got that middle slider all the way down. Definitely not the way I would run it. Then again I have the IV.
i have both, Mark is thinner in the distortion, the new dual is the winner
scooped mids pls stop
In a mix DR cuts better. Alone Mark V sounds better. 0
Dual rec