Hellboy (2019) - Caravan Of Garbage
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- In 2019 Lionsgate attempted the unimaginable, a reboot of the Hellboy franchise after the much beloved Guillermo del Toro and Ron Pearlman dead cancelled trilogy. With David Harbour stepping into the role and directed (sort of) by Neil Marshall it was a critical and commercial bomb. HOWEVER as a movie some perhaps feel that it's been judged unfairly especially considering the mythology, creature work, world bulding and story. Thanks for checking out of Caravan Of Garbage review
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James mentioned Fifth Element again, he's fucking mocking us.
he can't keep getting away with this!
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 I laughed so hard, the mockery is real 😂
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 He’s only inspiring the movement. Soon we will rise from our knees!
Fifth Element is by far the best film that I never want to see again.
I was named after that film!
Mason saying "Over time I'm always proven right" is hilarious after his "The Jurassic Park trilogy maintains similar quality throughout" take.
Jurassic park maintains similar quality throughout, if you dont count 1.
Theres a masterpiece, the a load of slop trying to recapture the magic and milk money out of the IP
@@emmiannon1266 The Lost World is an often overlooked or disregarded masterpiece that has a much more varied and interesting musical score.
@@emmiannon1266 The lost world may not be great but it is definitely above the quality of the rest. The rest are garbage 100% tho
Tbf he made that take as a prediction before watching the sequels and immediately retracted his statement as soon as they did the sequel
He had original said that Spiderman no way home wasn't going to hold the test of time and he was right there.
The “Here’s the thing” joke has a new twist and I’m here for it
they're not wrong though. that really is the thing
What’s the thing? I missed it.
@@DimaJeydar Using a photo of Eben Moss-Bacharach when they say "Here's the thing..."
@@hollandscottthomas oh, that’s not new.
I'm quite partial to the SpongeBob "I need it" still frames when James does his epic breath intake
Me: "Dad, whether you're liquid or solid, you're a solid Dad. 🙂"
My Dad: "...What?"
I'm still grappling with Maso stating that this is the best movie ever made. Even better than his personal favorite film and perennial all-time best film nominee: Sunshine?
Maso loves Sunshine? I need that caravan of garbage, i love that movie
Isnt that just their gag where because u can only hate or love something on the internet they say
"best movie ever" or "worst movie ever" with no in between?
It's not often they review actual garbage.. like Sunshine's developmentally challenged little brother Moonfall.
I just watched Sunshine last night. I was pleasantly surprised. And I guess I now know where I got the idea to watch it from: the man, the myth, the legend himself, James Maso.
That's james' favourite isnt it? Is this a bit that's gone over my head
I think the first half of this movie is genuinely a great hellboy movie, but then you keep going and the movie acts like we've known this version of hellboy for years and suddenly this is his biggest threat ever!!! Despite being the first major threat we've seen him face in this universe, like if the sequels did happen, would they feel the need to keep the stakes high like marvel?
Bruh! This is what I was saying. Like I don't know this man; why is he treating every conversation he has with other characters like WE the audience were there for them? It's so weird.😅
Like the director said, it was just a bad script. A shame, as everyone else did a pretty good job.
With this, the Pacific Rim franchise and the constantly-in-development-hell Blade movie, I’ve gotta ask:
Why does Hollywood refuse to hire Guillermo Del Toro for stuff he’s already proven to be the best at?
The man would love to do it
Just hire him
I feel like there is something sketchy about how Hollywood treats Del Toro. The man is incredibly talented and passionate. But I think he doesn't want to play the studio politics game and suck up to all the producers and execs.
If Del Toro was coming up 30 years earlier, when directors had more power, I think he would have been on par with Spielberg when it comes to clout. But he came up when the producers and studio executives control everything, and directors are just treated like servants.
Because they like useful idiots that’ll do what they want them to. Guillermo likes to have full control.
Seriously I wanna know
I think that's it. He's such a creative kid that he doesn't play the studio politics game. If someone allows him to just run with it, he's happy and great, if not, he'll just walk away no hard feelings. And in interviews he speaks so plainly about his loves. He's not the type to try and conform to what execs ask nor cause a fight to force through his vision. I imagine he's what would have happened to Tim Burton if he didn't have a string of big successes nor Alice in Wonderland. GDT is the director that earlier would have been someone some studio exec would have taken special interest in or later when there was more avenues than traditional movie distribution to get started in. But he fell in this this weird middle ground of risk adverse ballooning budgets
I think it's a taste thing though right? People begged for a Sam Raimi MCU film, and then we got MoM, which happens to be tied for my least favorite film from that franchise (Thor 4 was pretty bad). I've always thought Sam Raimi was only good at movie making when people took creative control away from him (Spiderman 1/2) and everything else he's made is the same trash. That said, most people found MoM to be fine and a lot of people like Evil dead, so it's just taste. Gimme Guillermo Dell Toro over most directors for what he does, but I also know some people that simply don't like his style.
Genuinely surprised how much the guys enjoy most of this, the reviews at the time absolutely tore this film apart
tbh that often makes it easier for me to just enjoy the schlock of it all. happens a lot with genre movies.
My impression is most professional reviewers are morons. If I'm interested in something I watch it. As the saying goes "those who can't criticize those who can "
IMO, the biggest problem with the movie was pacing. I think it would have been much better if they just slowed it down from time to time instead of jumping from quip to quip.
@@kidcoyoteanarchy Yeah but even the audience reviews were pretty bad, and not just because of the "you can't remake Hellboy!" fanboys. Like people genuinely thought it was bad.
Personally I thought it was somehow, paradoxically, both entertaining and boring at the same time. As in, a lot of the content was interesting, but maybe the pacing or something just made it blander.
@@kidcoyoteanarchySo there is a "proper" way to use reviewers, but it's kind of been lost in the internet 5 star era. Essentially you're really supposed to follow a few reviewers you like, and that you understand and mostly resonate with their sensibilities about films. You can then tell, from their reviews, how much you'd enjoy a film. This can work even if they hated it, you would understand WHY they hate it and it may be things you actually enjoy in a film. Sadly this method of understanding critique is kind of dead, I guess Ebert took it with him 😔.
The weird part of this movie is that it directly adapts like 15 different Hellboy story arcs, smashes them together, and then changes the tone for the worse for all of them.
Harbour is legit kinda great. He makes Hellboy his own while making it feel very authentic.
Oh God the trivia section for The Wizard of Oz next week is going to be WILD. So many awful things happened to that cast and crew.
Can't wait for a round of Emerald Trivia
wrong. mythbusters proved that you can in fact polish a turd
I've always hated this. The saying is "you CAN polish a turd, but it's STILL a turd."
That being said, that's a great mythbusters episode 😅
You CAN'T polish a turd.
You CAN however, roll it in glitter.
@@pezorama You are right, and I agree, people misunderstanding the expression is annoying.
One man's turd is another man's treasure?
The reason Abe Sapien wasn't in this movie was because they used colour correcting lenses to give the movie a unique look. What the lenses did was desaturate the blue and harvest the other colours. This led to the movie using the preproduction name "Blue Harvest," which was the working title of 1983's Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
This was a good one
You had me there! You really did!
Dog Soldiers is legitimately one of my favorite films. Fucking fantastic.
Came her to say the same. Great movie.
It's probably in my top three werewolf movies, with the others being *The Howling* and *An American Werewolf in London,* obviously.
Loved it, I actually enjoyed Centurion as well
I was actually surprised by how much I hated this movie. The Guillermo movies are some of my favorites, and I'll be forever sad we never got a 3. Those films had some delightfully gnarly stuff in them too(true to the comics) but this one just felt like it was written by a 12 year old who just got permission to cuss for the first time.
The ol classic; we got an R rating so saying “fuck” is a personality now!
I was honestly hoping they’d cover the Hellboy animated movies rather than this, those at least contain more fish romance.
Okay, so like, let's make things clear, James and Mason are the weird ones here for not liking the fish romance, right?
@@HiperPivociarz100%. Who doesn’t like fish romance?
"I was breathing your burps?!"
Showing Hellboy fall through the floor when Maso said, "comicbook accruate" at 4:12 was a real chef's kiss from the editor!
Caravan Of Garbage will become a cult classic in years to come
I am once again on my knees!! Begging for the fifth element caravan of garbage!!!
The fact they mentioned it again must sting man
Get this man a medal
ZEUSSSSS, GIVE THIS MAN THE FIFTH ELEMENT CARAVAN OF GARBAGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
They are tickling your balls at this point.
@2723cadd We're all here for you. Stay strong!
"What you people want?"
A good movie Mason. All those "cool" elements mean nothing if the movie is terrible
FINALLY! someone with common sense thank you.
I enjoyed David Harbour as Hellboy but this film felt like its was rushing through a trilogy in the space of a movie. Id happily watch Hellboy BRPDing around fighting mexican vampires for a movie and then hubting giants etc without the whole "and now hes the destroyer of worlds" ending.
Im cautiously optimistic about The Crooked Man, some workd building and monster hunting would be very nice.
The next Hellboy movie looks like a straight-to-dvd sequel where they recast everyone because the old cast was smart enough to not come back.
I don't know. To me it looks like trying to tell a cool story on a much smaller budget without big studio involvement.
It looks a lot better than people are giving it credit for
@@dickcheney1822 Blue-eyed, big-nosed Hellboy tho
Having read the story its based on, its fitting. There aren't many giant spectacle fights or crazy locations, just a bunch of creepy monsters in a creepy place. It's the perfect story for a more low budget Hellboy
For a straight to dvd movie it had some glimpse of quality, but without the original cast/concept it was doomed.
That SpongeBob breathing in shot killed me 😂😂😂
I remember walking out of this movie thinking to myself “damn that’s was actually pretty good!” And checked to find every critic and person on the internet unanimously decide “this movie is garbage”
They just missed Guillermo
Neil Marshall was the right director for the wrong movie
If we tall about dog soilders enough the lads will have to watch it
And underappreciated gem of a movie, and maybe one of the best creature features ever made.
Doomsday is so good
He was the right director, but the script was shit.
@@saintniccage2818I just watched it! It’s awesome!
They’d do Fifth Element but James is busy?
James is _not_ busy. I have inside sources
I want to see HellBoyhood where it’s just this version growing up year to year with a good dad.
I legit thought it was an origin story with how Young both Hellboy and his dad looked for some reason😅
The scene where it's jumps from a neon nightclub to riding horses in a british country made me and my mates think they had time travelled off screen.......also DOG SOILDERS FOR LIFE
Never let anyone call you guys a caravan of garbage - there'd have to be way more of you to realistically be considered a caravan.
we'll get The Fifth Element Caravan of Garbage when we get the Snake Eyes Weekly Planet Review
(never)
This version of Hellboy is amazing!!
"I LOVE YOU, LOBSTER JOHNSON!!"
I also felt this movie was totally fine and was surprised how much audiences disliked it
WHAT
Me and my boi Hellboy are birthday buddies?!?
Thank you, Trivia 2019!
I can't believe you didn't mention Thomas Hayden Church was Lyle in George of the Jungle or list his entire wikipedia page
From what I’ve seen of this movie, it feels like it suffers from not-great dialogue and David Harbour having a harder time emoting under the makeup than Perlman did.
Never realised how similar The Witcher and Hellboy are until this..
I was thinking the same. I love the similar fantasy/folklore elements between both with the grey morality.
Thomas Hayden Church was also in a little sitcom which was very good, Wings.
Where he was the mechanic for these two brothers that had their own airline.
Small plane airline.
He was a bumbling mechanic that was played as a moron but he knew how to fix a plane.
Good show.
I believe late 90’s early 2000’s
It was during the age of the sitcom. 😊
Every trivia answer: "Ann Margaret!"
Great show
"Here's the Thing" caught me so off guard 😂😂😂
I personally don’t get how y’all like the movie. I’ll watch it again sometime to give it another chance. But it was all style and no substance for me.
Yes there were many cool things in the movie, but the narrative and writing took all of the pay off away. I wish the guy who made had the freedom to create what he wanted.
Idgaf about making more/new hellboy.
Just because movies were already made with the character, shouldn’t mean that those original films have a monopoly over the stories.
I wanted to like this movie but it just isn’t much of a movie for me. The pacing killed me, the issue isn’t that they made hellboy without del toro and Ron Perlman. The issue for me is that this movie was simply another cash grab attempt. And as usual the studios don’t know what the fuck they are doing and harm every production by enforcing their own creative choices. Not because they are “professional” or something, but because they have the money.
“I’m proud of you I’m a vomit Dad” is my new favourite James quote
After watching for 5 minutes I realised I must've fallen asleep half way through this movie because I swear I've watched it... but maso said its the best movie ever and he's never wrong, so now I wanna watch it but it's not on any streaming platform in the UK, so thanks for that dickheads! You bloody got me again
Seeing Twilight show up in this video really makes me want the boys to watch them again and put out another Caravan of Garbage
these videos are the only way i learn about new movie releases. i had no clue a new hellboy was being made lol
I wish Lobster Johnstone's costume was better.
You can't be going around saying you like this movie, you're gonna piss off all 50 of the die hard Hellboy fans
Now I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, I'm pissed! Royally pissed!
Fr tho, I loved that lobster Johnson was in it.
so maso has a equal fanbase to james hating ghostbusters? quick someone make a ghostbusters movie with david harbour hellboy.
You know people always say this is a bad Hellboy movie but I think as a stand alone film it is also quite bad...
I loved hearing James say Westworld
I really still think the soulless trailers for this movie contributed greatly to how poorly it was received.
I also think because it wasn't Guillermo del Toro and Ron pearlmen people wrote it off.
@@kidcoyoteanarchy Oh, that's without question. I just distinctly remember wanting to give it a chance yet watching the first trailer and being horrified at how the trailer was not just weirdly generic looking (despite the giant red main character) but also somehow edited to make all the action sequences seem to lack momentum/energy.
To quote Milla "it's Yovovich!"
I think that David Harbour did an incredible job as Hell Boy! His version was so badass. I just wish the story did the character justice
Unfortunately James and Maso this is where I draw the line. Hellboy 3(?) is stinky hot poo poo and you’ve just said it’s good so now I’m a hater that’s right I’m gonna be hating on you from now on. Fear me
David Harbour was always a great choice for this character. But I remember that I tried watching this movie and I was so bored after like 30 minutes, that I turned it off. Maybe I have to give it another chance, but I think the pacing might be off. Also, I don't like how Hellboy looks in this. He looks just weird and it was always distracting to me. And on top of that, I kinda think Abe Sapian is missing as a sidekick. I honestly think all the "sidekicks" in this movie were really boring and forgetable. But again, I might have to give it another try one day.
my only memory of it is falling asleep during it lol.
The pacing is a bit up and down. I just stayed for the kickass monsters, especially in the climax of the movie- I've never seen a more gruesome scene than this😅
First time I tried watching it, I was bored stiff and gave up halfway through.
When I decided to give it another chance however, I ended up really enjoying it.
It does run a little too long. They had too many threads and didn't focus on any of them.
I actually admire that you guys like the movie despite apparently no one else liking it (including the makers of the film)
Loved the live show in London. Especially shutting down that guy that kept shouting out. Still waiting for my Thoughts and Prizes prize though, must have got lost at the airport, still, hopefully though! 🎉
Agreed! Where are my prizes for my thoughts? My thoughts should earn prizes!
I'm convinced Milla Jovovich has some dirt on James cause there's no way someone would call her a good actress of their own free will
Maynard Keenan likes her too
Dog soldiers is an incredible film, everyone go watch it now
After watching this movie I got the feeling Mike Mignola doesn’t really like the Del Toro Hellboy movies.
André Øvredal should be given a chance to direct Hellboy
He already worked with Del Toro in "Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark"
He's simply perfect
As always, the editing on these is god-tier.
I’m really crossing my fingers that Ben and Lawrence put in a TON of Victorious clips for the Wizard of Oz next week!!!🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Had no idea this movie existed .. no wonder it made so little money , the marketing must have been absolutely shockingly bad
My wife and I watched this one in theaters and adored it! We were gushing over it on the ride home. Then we decided to look at reviews and were dumbfounded.
I was also confused by the online reviews. Like this review states, the ending didn't fully 100% bring it home for me but everything in the movie was fantastic.
@@aperson4640 Yeah, I’m by no means saying this thing was perfect, but it was a functional story with great elements. I felt they made better use of Hellboy’s right hand in this than in the del Torro movies too.
@@mransom565 yeah two reasons why people hated on it: people who loved the first two movies dominated the conversation and people en masse were just starting to realize that bitching about things online gets you many more views than objectivity.
The animated Hellboy movies with Ron Pearlman are still the best!
5th Element is one if my favorite movies of all time, if you do it please make it 30+ minutes :) I need to know everything you can find out about it. Such a classic
I thought David Harbour was excellent as Hellboy, which, as a fan of Pearlman, i was not expecting. But this movie is soooooooooooooooo BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We’ll get a fifth element COG when the next Bruce Willis movie comes out
Didn't he retire due to health reasons.
The Centurions?! God I'm getting old😭
I loved The Centurions. I had one of the figures. My sister said it was a doll because it was roughly the size of a doll. *IT'S NOT A DOLL, JOANNA!!!*
This movie joins The Amazing Spider-Man in the "overhated for being a reboot" camp. The camp is egged constantly by people who stick around and refuse to move on.
Can we get a drunk David Harbour recurring character??
>drunk David Harbour
>old crone Rey
>British orphan Tom Holland
> rude Obi-Wan
Dream blunt rotation
Nick's and the editor's "Here's the Thing" video bit almost went over my head
I think the issue with this one is before, The Guillermo films at least captured some sense of the mood and styling of the original comic, while this is going full on splatter comedy, and it doesn't often work. Says something when the best parts are slow stuff like him mourning a friend he had to kill while seeing him get his name etched on the wall, the questioning of his job and the baba-yaga, all steady and character driven.
I absolutely despise this movie, the worst thing I've seen in a cinema
I remember when this was first released, saying that I liked it, and I thought it was good. Usually stating at the same time, I still thought the Golden Army was better, only to still be absolutely demolished in comments sections😂 it's funny to see now it seems quite a lot of people actually enjoy it, most surprisingly James and Maso. I genuinely was expecting them to beat this movie like a red-horned stepchild😂
I can’t believe they’re finally getting to Snake Eyes next week!!
I will always recommend Dog Soldiers
Haven't seen this, but it's kinda refreshing to hear as much praise as this for it, never heard it before
Thank you for that Depp cut Centurion reference. I’ve been on a years long search for that cartoon and no one, nor anything on the internet gave me my answer until today
I love hellboy but I literally cannot make it 20 minutes into this film it's so terrible the Lobster is the only saving grace
I’ll be honest, as genius as the casting of David Harbour was, and as creative as the makeup and special effects were, it was a movie nobody wanted, and it just felt like a really mean spirited film. The excessive gore against innocent civilian characters just for the sake of it, and even all the gratuitous, poorly used bad language made it feel like it was just going for the shock factor, which felt cheap and, like I said, mean spirited
Good morrow gentlemen, I would like to inquire that the two of you may someday do a caravan of garbage series covering Disney’s Atlantis and Disney’s Treasure Planet and maybe some other stuff that fits in with those movies. I think they could make for some killer content. (It would also make for a good excuse to finally make Bigolas Nicholas Mason watch the best Disney animated movie (Disney’s Treasure Planet))
I loved this film. Such a shame we wont get more of Harbours Hellboy and universe
God the whole Centurions bit took me back. One of my favorite cartoons ever
I think that the editing from Ben and Lawrence really make such a difference to these videos. Class blokes all round 👍
It's been ages, and still nobody has taken a swing at a live-action Doctor Bones n Bees.
I wish we could have gotten more Lobster Johnson. I think it could have made it even better. I thought a lot of the cussing was unnecessary. It could have been better polsihing to some of the dialogue choices.
5:21 "the previous two hellboys were based" - Maso
COMPLETELY AGREE with Mason. There's something about the tone of it and the way the characters 'interact that I realty gel with.
Never heard the guys sound so happy talking about a movie!
I've always thought Harbour was perfect casting after finally reading through the books. The dude's got the look, the voice, the physicality. It's just studio interference and the hellboy design kind of soured his portrayal for most. I also fucking love that they put lobster johnson in this. Thomas Haden Church was an excellent pick.
the demons killing humans is one of the most uploaded movie scenes that i've seen. and i keep watching everyone of them cos that part was so cool.
What's up with the Caravan of Garbage logo right in the middle lmao 8:33
Milla Jovovich definitely isn't wrong when she says how something like this will become a cult classic - it may not be directed by Guillermo Del Toro or star Ron Perlman, but it's at least its own thing.
I agree with the boys, I absolutely love this movie and do not understand all the hate it got.
I’ll never say this movie is good, but it’s never boring and so insanely paced that it hits that so bad it’s good part of my brain. Its biggest problem was its tone IMO. It couldn’t decide if it was Deadpool or an Evil Dead horror comedy.
There are some parts of this movie that are literally ripped off the pages of the comic, and I loved seeing that, but... whoever was in charge seemed so desperate for an R-rating... The swearing and OTT gore seemed forced.
From the second Ian McShane said the line "...known as the Dark Ages for fucking good reason" - It just sounded like an f-bomb put into a sentence to sound edgy, rather than a natural use to emphasise a point.
...and believe me, I'm not saying this as some kind of prude or anything, I fucking love swearing.
Trying to be like Deadpool, totally missing the point.
That's Hollywood, for you: "(insert film here) is popular, we need to make it like (insert film here)".
i watched half of this one on a plane, and you convinced me to go back and rewatch it all
GIVE. ME. GOD. DAMN. WAFFLES!!!
WAFFLES!!!
I am so keen for the Wizard Of Oz Caravan Of Garbage, what a film to unpack.
It’s such an oddity in the annals of classic films. When it came out, it was criticized for being way too cheesy and corny then it just… became a classic after being re-released 500 times
I know they weren't theatrical releases, but I really enjoyed the Hellboy animated movies, Blood & Iron, and Sword of Storms. I know its unlikely they'd cover them on the channel, but if they did I'd watch it for sure.
Daniel Dae Kim really is just cool as shit.