And the fact that the ice climbers are functionally the same character (the ice climber in the back just has different hitboxes), and even then things get a bit difficult...
@@kevingriffith6011 in fairness they solved most of the issues by not letting Nana grab when Popo can, it's not significantly harder to do desync stuff
@@illford And if anyone doesn’t know what Waddling is, it’s where Popo and Nana would constantly take turns grabbing and hitting the opponent, racking up their damage and not leaving a frame to wiggle out with. It even true comboed into Ice Climber’s kill moves. All of which could be done at zero. It was banned in several tournaments and flat out patched in Ultimate.
@@CrocvsGator They’re saying he’s also canonically dead but yes Reina acts a ton like the new Heihachi. Part of me thinks BS cuz Bison is still alive in 6
@lennydickson8845 eh, Street Fighter treats characters coming back differently than Tekken. Like King, Armor King, and Kuma all died and were replaced, iirc. Then again, Fighting games in general deal with this often, nobody can stay gone....except funnily enough Tekken's sister series, Soul Calibur. Tons of characters from Soul Calibur show up once and then never again. Edit: Heihachi is back, lmao
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosI personally think it was because the 3DS couldn't handle it and they decided to separate them and didn't bother putting them back together for Ultimate
@ShockwaveFPSStudios there both canonically different zeldas now although TP zelda had a shiek form in brawl even though she didn't exist in TP instead they used scrapped concept art for shieks design
Before anyone questions the duo of Rex and Pyra, the only reason characters like these wouldn’t work is because the Switch would have 2 stupidly detailed anime characters moving in unison also being separated partially like nana, thus requiring a second AI Joker and Arsen are connected to each other and don’t require a second AI to control a second character since they will act at the same time Nana and Popo work because their character models are absurdly simple in comparison and the models aren’t super demanding Pokémon Trainer works because there is only a single Pokémon on screen at a time, they don’t all have to be in the same screen all at once
Rex and Pyra have significantly more complicated designs than the Ice Climbers. Plus, Rex would be using Mythra as well. So it would be a more complicated Ice Climbers, and it would also be a swap character. Not mention Pyra wouldn't just follow Rex around mimicing his attacks. Odds are Rex would be the one doing the normal and smash attacks. His standard jab combo would be his auto attack, double spinning edge his forward smash, rolling smash his up smash, anchor shot his graband sword bash his down smash. I could see the down and forward smash switched in this potential moveset. And that's just the normal attacks. To be accurate to the source game, Rex would then have to pass his weapon to Pyra or Mythra to do the specials.
It’s pretty interesting how most of the fighters mentioned were ultimately not chosen because the team preferred someone else from their respective games, with the exceptions of Rex who couldn’t get in with the blade-driver mechanic due of technical limitations, and Slime who was the backup for a Dragon Quest rep if Hero wasn’t approved. And all of these fighters were alternatives for representing certain games and series. It makes me believe that we’ll get these characters in the future if the team is willing to add another fighter from their games
If that logic leads to Alucard becoming a true fighter rather than just an assist, then I really want to believe you believe right. So many swordfighters I don't much want, but then we didn't quite get the one I really did.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosThat’s why, the day before Sora’s reveal, I mentally prepared myself for the last fighter to be from Pokemon or Fire Emblem. Y’know, the worst case scenarios.
It's not only the Devil Gene that help create a unique moveset, Sakurai wanted to maintain the movement of Takken in Smash but needed a character to also cover more distance to compensate for Takken's slower and precise movements.
Unnnhhh i really don't think Richter was very much extra work. Now since they already have an Alucard model and some moves from his assist trophy you maybe have more of a point than normal but the reason we have echoes is not to waste slots but because they're easy to make.
No. We would’ve gotten one or the other. Not both. This has been stated numerous times that clone characters takes less time to make. They are an extra. Rictor not being here would NOT allow Alucard to be playable as he would have a different moveset and therefore be a different full character to make which would take more time vs a clone. Its really that simple.
Crazy that we got Simon and an echo fighter over Simon and Alucard. To be fair, Alucard's moveset and appearance would have most likely made him a Sephiroth echo fighter, despite being from two entirely different franchises.
@@raven-aprobably not to be honest. hero’s command menu is probably one of the most creative moves in the game. maybe the reveal would’ve been better because of the shock factor
Krystal from Star Fox would be an amazing Smash fighter. She could have a completely unique move set from Fox, Falco, and Wolf, primarily using her staff and combat. Even the staff power ups from Star Fox Adventures could easily translate to her specials.
I do like incineroar more as a Pokemon, but I wish decidueye got added so we could finally have a proper grass type pokemon. Now we'll probably never have another grass type besides fucking Ivysaur
For me i was really hoping for Rillaboom to join smash ultimate dlc just like Piranha Planet, Byleth, Min Min, and Pyra/Mythra to make up for the fully evolved grass starter Pokemon with Decidueye. Sadly he Didn't make it in dlc and fighter pass vol 3 didn't get made, if it was real than Rillaboom would've easily made it in smash ultimate. Now our finally hope is that Meoscarada the grass starter of gen 9 or possibly fully evolved grass starter Pokemon of gen 10 will join next smash game/possibly smash ultimate deluxe port as by the time the it arrives, gen 10 will be the current generation for the franchise of Pokemon and its 30th anniversary arriving too.
Whilst incineroar makes sense and was a great choice, I have to say Decidueye is up there as one of my favourite pokemon, and he would have been awesome in Smash. He could have so many moves oppsones like firing arrows, leaf storm or hurricane for good range attack. He could use phantom force to teleport/ attack an enemy, similar to greninga, to close the distance. Plus, being able to fly and having melee moves like Leaf Blade, sucker punch, or Brave Bird could make him a great all-rounder character.
However there is still hope that either Rillaboom, Meowscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of Gen 10 will join the next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe port as by the time it arrives, gen 10 will be the current generation for the franchise.
We could've gotten Richter and Alucard, or Simon and Alucard. But we got Richter and Simon, which could've been Simon, Richter and Alucard as playable characters. That could've made Simon/Richter's Echo Fighter Position be ignored by adding Alucard, but we're just stuck with two different character but no actual gameplay difference. 😊
However there is hope that Rillaboom, Meowscarada, or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 will join next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe port.
I still sigh on Krystal’s behalf since she was also heavily considered for a fighter before being made an Assist Trophy. Nintendo has not been kind to her since the reboot.
Decidueye is my favorite Gen 7 starter. Incineroar makes the most sense. Primarina would've been unexpected. Wouldn't it have been cool to have a second pokémon trainer who uses the Alolan starters?
I wish the skins for the trainer were the player characters of each region. Would be even better if they all got their regions' starters but that's too much to ask
I think Yoshimitsu would have been cool because he's a really awesome character and on top of that he would represent both Tekken and Soul Calibur. I think it makes a lot more sense to choose the Belmonts especially Simon considering he was the protagonist at the beginning of the franchise and has come back as the protagonist in remakes and sequels and stuff, but also the Belmonts are original characters by Konami whereas Dracula and Alucard Yes they are a big part of Castlevania absolutely, but they weren't created by Konami at all as they had been around for decades or maybe even a century prior to Castlevania being made. At least they still made Dracula a boss and Alucard an assist trophy though
Better yet, Taion as a rep. As much as I'd love to see someone like Rex, Noah, or N, a friend of mine pointed out that we already had enough "Anime Sworfighters" despite only 2-3 being from Xenoblade. Taion, however, would be a really cool pick with the Mondo
There's hope that either Rilllaboom, Meowscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 will join next smash game/possibly smash ultimate deluxe port.
Plenty of fist fighters but bows aren't exactly the most common weapon in Smash Bros, especially not as a sole primary weapon. I'm pretty sure Pit is the only one whose sole primary weapon is a bow and even then he mostly uses it as a pair of blades rather than as a bow. Who does he think he is, Shirou EMIYA?
Well Incineroar is just garbage 🗑️ so hate it Incineroar is just a stupid idea a stupid Pokémon as a stupid fighter So Please 🙏 🙄 give Decidueye another chance please believe me
The Dragon Quest slime could have made a really interesting fighter I would imagine they would have given him the ability to change into some of many variants of the slime for each of his special moves.
sad that Rillaboom didn't join dlc just like the other ones did as we would've gotten a fully evolved grass starter Pokémon in smash bros and made up for Decidueye. now lets hope that Meoscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 will join next smash/possible smash ultimate port.
Each time I face an Incineroar I get into "avenge Decidueye" mode. I seriously hope for Meowscarada in the next game to complete a fully evolved starter trio, even if there's already two fully evolved fire starters haha
@@vanessasandoval96 decidueye is in the game pokeken and incineroar isn't a bad pick, what character has taunt each time he uses a move ( you don't like him since he stand on two feet)
@@vanessasandoval96 To be more honest, Sakurai just wants to add a Smash character was a wrestler similar to King from Tekken series so he made a choice to add Incineroar in Smash Ultimate, instead.
Rillaboom or possibly fully evolved grass of Gen 10 will join next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe Port as by the time it arrives gen 10 will already be a thing and also the 30th anniversary of the Pokémon franchise will also be there by 2026.
"It would be too hard to make both characters move at once" has gotta be the biggest cap since "we didn't put any actual minecraft music in Smash Bros cause it was too hard to make it sound exciting"
Is sad how they didn't even thought about Isaac from Golden Sun,I was hoping he was gonna be on Smash 4 but he didn't and after I was hoping to see him in Ultimate but he was just a Trophy...again
It's especially sad considering how many rumors pre launch had like 90%+ of the roster right. When you saw Geno or Goku it was like thats fake. When you saw Isaac it was like..hmm. Maybe.
Man, i would have loved Decidueye as another ranged fighter. Nothing against Incineroar, but im still salty it ended up on two legs when it could have been really cool as a sabertooth on all fours. That anf its basically another Fire/Fighting type, at least in theme if not actual typing.
I'm glad they went with Inceneroar. Not only is decidueye just not as cool, it just makes more sense to use a wrestler-themed pokemon for a fighting game
We also might have gotten Kasumi as a costime to Joker but that probably got scraped due to Royal releasing after Joker did for Smash. I know it doesn't count for this but I still found it interesting.
I love Hero, I'm a Hero main and everyone hates me for excessive use of my spell list, but by god if I wouldn't have loved playing as a Slime just as much.
Don’t worry there is hope that Rillaboom, Meowscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of Gen 10 will join next smash/smash ultimate deluxe port.
@@A-RUclipsr7 me too as it was my most gen 8 final evolution form. I even pick Grookey as my first Starter Pokémon to begin adventures when i first played Pokémon Shield.
Theres a pretty common theory/assumption among players in my area that byleth might have been built on a template that was originally made for a monster hunter rep. The bulky moveset and variety of large weapons feels very similar to what you would imagine a monster hunter to play like. It's been said that capcom prefers that the actual monsters are used instead of player characters so it's probably why we got a ratholos boss but no fighter
I would love to see Paula, Jeff, and Poo from EarthBound. It would be under the Ness slot, and have their actual moves from EarthBound instead of some random combination of PSI
I heard somewhere that originally in brawl they were gonna add the hunter from monster hunter in as a fighter but they didn’t know how to do their move set
I'm still tight about Ninjara not being in the game, I feel like he would've been way more interesting given that he's a ninja and the ninjas of smash are fast rushdown characters with cool combos
The fact that Sakurai mentally prepared himself to add a fucking slime over the main character of DQ11 really shows how profits-focused Squeenix has gotten.
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“It was difficult to get two characters to move at the same time”
Popo: Fuck
Nana: You
Decades of watching Ice Climbers Desync combos have filled Sakurai with abject terror at the thought of another double fighter.
And the fact that the ice climbers are functionally the same character (the ice climber in the back just has different hitboxes), and even then things get a bit difficult...
@@kevingriffith6011 in fairness they solved most of the issues by not letting Nana grab when Popo can, it's not significantly harder to do desync stuff
@@illford I mean, it’s what solved Waddling.
@@illford And if anyone doesn’t know what Waddling is, it’s where Popo and Nana would constantly take turns grabbing and hitting the opponent, racking up their damage and not leaving a frame to wiggle out with. It even true comboed into Ice Climber’s kill moves. All of which could be done at zero. It was banned in several tournaments and flat out patched in Ultimate.
Another factor with Heihachi is that his voice actor died.
No kidding? No wonder they cut him in Tekken 8… (for now)
@@lennydickson8845 I haven't played Tekken 8 yet, but doesn't Reina have a bunch of his moves?
@@CrocvsGator They’re saying he’s also canonically dead but yes Reina acts a ton like the new Heihachi. Part of me thinks BS cuz Bison is still alive in 6
@lennydickson8845 eh, Street Fighter treats characters coming back differently than Tekken. Like King, Armor King, and Kuma all died and were replaced, iirc.
Then again, Fighting games in general deal with this often, nobody can stay gone....except funnily enough Tekken's sister series, Soul Calibur. Tons of characters from Soul Calibur show up once and then never again.
Edit: Heihachi is back, lmao
Even Heihachi died from Kazuya
The Pyra/Mythra + Rex combo makes you wonder how Ice Climbers and Pokémon Trainer were able to be put into the game in the first place.
It makes you wonder why Zelda can’t transformer into Shiek again.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosI personally think it was because the 3DS couldn't handle it and they decided to separate them and didn't bother putting them back together for Ultimate
I wish they remove the Garbage 🗑️ Incineroar and smash give Decidueye another chance
@ShockwaveFPSStudios there both canonically different zeldas now although TP zelda had a shiek form in brawl even though she didn't exist in TP instead they used scrapped concept art for shieks design
@@thevalkyriemercenary9463 wait are talking to me about my comment
Slime vs. Piranha Plant would've made the internet laugh so hard
I wouldn't have been happy. But Hero and is RNG has achieved the funniest shit that me and my friends have done in gaming
FUCKING NINJARA WAS ALMOST THERE.
THE TRAILER WAS MADE KNOWING THAT, THEY GANGED UP ON HIM
At least he's a Mii Costume ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bro who the fuck cares
It's Arms
Who the fuck played that thing
Tik Tok Rock
Wtf is a ninjara? It's on my mii characters and I don't remember making him
Which not helps. Mii costumes =/= fighters. Like never. @@chamtheman551
Before anyone questions the duo of Rex and Pyra, the only reason characters like these wouldn’t work is because the Switch would have 2 stupidly detailed anime characters moving in unison also being separated partially like nana, thus requiring a second AI
Joker and Arsen are connected to each other and don’t require a second AI to control a second character since they will act at the same time
Nana and Popo work because their character models are absurdly simple in comparison and the models aren’t super demanding
Pokémon Trainer works because there is only a single Pokémon on screen at a time, they don’t all have to be in the same screen all at once
"It would be too hard to make both characters move at once"
Ice Climbers: "Ha! Amateurs! We've been doing this since the Gamecube and we're fine!"
Ice Climbers weren't in Smash 4 for exactly the same reason.
@@lakulo27 this isnt smash 4 tho
Rex and Pyra have significantly more complicated designs than the Ice Climbers. Plus, Rex would be using Mythra as well. So it would be a more complicated Ice Climbers, and it would also be a swap character.
Not mention Pyra wouldn't just follow Rex around mimicing his attacks. Odds are Rex would be the one doing the normal and smash attacks. His standard jab combo would be his auto attack, double spinning edge his forward smash, rolling smash his up smash, anchor shot his graband sword bash his down smash. I could see the down and forward smash switched in this potential moveset. And that's just the normal attacks. To be accurate to the source game, Rex would then have to pass his weapon to Pyra or Mythra to do the specials.
@@lakulo27Because they wanted all the same characters in both the Wii U and 3DS versions.
@@lakulo27 yeah, because the *3ds*'s hardware couldn't handle it. The Wii U more than could have.
It’s pretty interesting how most of the fighters mentioned were ultimately not chosen because the team preferred someone else from their respective games, with the exceptions of Rex who couldn’t get in with the blade-driver mechanic due of technical limitations, and Slime who was the backup for a Dragon Quest rep if Hero wasn’t approved. And all of these fighters were alternatives for representing certain games and series. It makes me believe that we’ll get these characters in the future if the team is willing to add another fighter from their games
If that logic leads to Alucard becoming a true fighter rather than just an assist, then I really want to believe you believe right.
So many swordfighters I don't much want, but then we didn't quite get the one I really did.
But considering Smash Bros has a knack of including new characters that are questionable… there’s no denying why.
@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosThat’s why, the day before Sora’s reveal, I mentally prepared myself for the last fighter to be from Pokemon or Fire Emblem. Y’know, the worst case scenarios.
Smash Ultimate was a big letdown to be honest. Really hit or miss
@@AlloveckThe fact he is an assist trophy doesn't mean anything. Chrom is his own fighter and a final smash so he could show up as a full fighter
It's not only the Devil Gene that help create a unique moveset, Sakurai wanted to maintain the movement of Takken in Smash but needed a character to also cover more distance to compensate for Takken's slower and precise movements.
What I would GIVE for Alucard to be in Smash Bros.
The fact we could have gotten one Belmont and Alucard but they just went with two nearly identical Belmonts sucks so bad
Unnnhhh i really don't think Richter was very much extra work. Now since they already have an Alucard model and some moves from his assist trophy you maybe have more of a point than normal but the reason we have echoes is not to waste slots but because they're easy to make.
No. We would’ve gotten one or the other. Not both.
This has been stated numerous times that clone characters takes less time to make. They are an extra. Rictor not being here would NOT allow Alucard to be playable as he would have a different moveset and therefore be a different full character to make which would take more time vs a clone. Its really that simple.
Crazy that we got Simon and an echo fighter over Simon and Alucard. To be fair, Alucard's moveset and appearance would have most likely made him a Sephiroth echo fighter, despite being from two entirely different franchises.
It breaks my heart knowing Alucard was going to be a fighter. Oh well
Bro, Slime as a fighter would’ve been awesome.
Better than Hero, for sure 😂🎉
@@raven-aprobably not to be honest. hero’s command menu is probably one of the most creative moves in the game. maybe the reveal would’ve been better because of the shock factor
@@JujanGamesyou did not understand the joke
It’s so much funnier when you watch If the slime was in smash video
@@JujanGames Rocket Slime is a game. Slime has options.
Lol I was just looking this up somewhere on Google out of pure boredom 😂
Krystal from Star Fox would be an amazing Smash fighter. She could have a completely unique move set from Fox, Falco, and Wolf, primarily using her staff and combat. Even the staff power ups from Star Fox Adventures could easily translate to her specials.
They missed by not adding Decidueye
Honestly, the best thing Decidueye has is Rowlett
@@vecrb00wrd not a big fan of the design
I do like incineroar more as a Pokemon, but I wish decidueye got added so we could finally have a proper grass type pokemon. Now we'll probably never have another grass type besides fucking Ivysaur
He wouldve been a projectile character :/
@@tamus4655 would've preferred projectile character over one of the actual slowest characters
wow considering how much i hate playing against incineroar i'd have loved to see decidueye get in
For me i was really hoping for Rillaboom to join smash ultimate dlc just like Piranha Planet, Byleth, Min Min, and Pyra/Mythra to make up for the fully evolved grass starter Pokemon with Decidueye. Sadly he Didn't make it in dlc and fighter pass vol 3 didn't get made, if it was real than Rillaboom would've easily made it in smash ultimate. Now our finally hope is that Meoscarada the grass starter of gen 9 or possibly fully evolved grass starter Pokemon of gen 10 will join next smash game/possibly smash ultimate deluxe port as by the time the it arrives, gen 10 will be the current generation for the franchise of Pokemon and its 30th anniversary arriving too.
Gengar 😞
lots of green colored arrow shooting characters already (all the Links)
I believe that was a factor too
It would've probably been a zoner, so you'd actually find him wayyy more annoying loll
REAL
Whilst incineroar makes sense and was a great choice, I have to say Decidueye is up there as one of my favourite pokemon, and he would have been awesome in Smash.
He could have so many moves oppsones like firing arrows, leaf storm or hurricane for good range attack. He could use phantom force to teleport/ attack an enemy, similar to greninga, to close the distance. Plus, being able to fly and having melee moves like Leaf Blade, sucker punch, or Brave Bird could make him a great all-rounder character.
I am soooo happy Min Min won.
She's been my favorite ARMS fighter since before the game even came out.
It should’ve been Decidueye, we still don’t have a fully evolved Grass Type starter
However there is still hope that either Rillaboom, Meowscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of Gen 10 will join the next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe port as by the time it arrives, gen 10 will be the current generation for the franchise.
I want Rillaboom, we already have Incineroar before him, and Greninja before him.
@@UltimateDragonX9999hey what about cinderace I want him in
We could've gotten Richter and Alucard, or Simon and Alucard. But we got Richter and Simon, which could've been Simon, Richter and Alucard as playable characters.
That could've made Simon/Richter's Echo Fighter Position be ignored by adding Alucard, but we're just stuck with two different character but no actual gameplay difference.
😊
As someone who hasnt played any castlevania, i want Richter and Alucard if we can only get one belmont
Dammit we could've had Decidueye!!!!
However there is hope that Rillaboom, Meowscarada, or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 will join next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe port.
We could've gotten Rayman as well 😓
Heihachi also had another issue, Unsho Ishizuka, heihachi's second voice actor had died shortly after Smash Ultimate's release
They replaced a perfect Pokémon rep with a rep that looks to be more suitable for a WWE rep.
I know he wasn’t in this video but it’s crazy they chose that darn plant over toad as another Mario rep
I still sigh on Krystal’s behalf since she was also heavily considered for a fighter before being made an Assist Trophy. Nintendo has not been kind to her since the reboot.
Decidueye is my favorite Gen 7 starter. Incineroar makes the most sense. Primarina would've been unexpected. Wouldn't it have been cool to have a second pokémon trainer who uses the Alolan starters?
what about Meoscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter Pokémon of gen 10 for next smash/smash ultimate deluxe port as its possible.
I wish the skins for the trainer were the player characters of each region. Would be even better if they all got their regions' starters but that's too much to ask
I think Yoshimitsu would have been cool because he's a really awesome character and on top of that he would represent both Tekken and Soul Calibur.
I think it makes a lot more sense to choose the Belmonts especially Simon considering he was the protagonist at the beginning of the franchise and has come back as the protagonist in remakes and sequels and stuff, but also the Belmonts are original characters by Konami whereas Dracula and Alucard Yes they are a big part of Castlevania absolutely, but they weren't created by Konami at all as they had been around for decades or maybe even a century prior to Castlevania being made.
At least they still made Dracula a boss and Alucard an assist trophy though
I wonder if the Xenoblade 3 DLC will be used as reference for a playable Rex since it might be easy to make a moveset for.
Better yet, Taion as a rep.
As much as I'd love to see someone like Rex, Noah, or N, a friend of mine pointed out that we already had enough "Anime Sworfighters" despite only 2-3 being from Xenoblade.
Taion, however, would be a really cool pick with the Mondo
Honestly as cool as Incineroar is I think I would have preferred Decidueye
There's hope that either Rilllaboom, Meowscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 will join next smash game/possibly smash ultimate deluxe port.
@UltimateDragonX9999 possibly but, damn decidueye is so cool it's a shame it wasn't them
Plenty of fist fighters but bows aren't exactly the most common weapon in Smash Bros, especially not as a sole primary weapon. I'm pretty sure Pit is the only one whose sole primary weapon is a bow and even then he mostly uses it as a pair of blades rather than as a bow. Who does he think he is, Shirou EMIYA?
Well Incineroar is just garbage 🗑️ so hate it
Incineroar is just a stupid idea a stupid Pokémon as a stupid fighter
So Please 🙏 🙄 give Decidueye another chance please believe me
I could see myself manning Decidueye off they added him
The Dragon Quest slime could have made a really interesting fighter I would imagine they would have given him the ability to change into some of many variants of the slime for each of his special moves.
Mai in the background crying still wish she was a “good girl” for smash ultimate 😭😭
Yeah her not joining felt like hypocrisy. Bayo's doing stripper moves and Snakes got that ass. Like a little cleavage gonna hurt anyone.
Any yet we have Bayo who literally works for Hell😮
I hope Rex gets into the next Smash Bros game as a separate fighter.
I also hope that Alucard gets in the next Smash bros game as well.
Sakurai said himself that he really wanted Rex in the launch reps but it took him too long to finish the game 😅
I love Incineroar and his moveset is my favourite, I'm glad we got him in the game
sad that Rillaboom didn't join dlc just like the other ones did as we would've gotten a fully evolved grass starter Pokémon in smash bros and made up for Decidueye. now lets hope that Meoscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of gen 10 will join next smash/possible smash ultimate port.
Dude they had so many games to work with: Crash bandicoot, ANY SONIC GAME IN EXISTENCE like cmon shadow and silver were RIGHT THERE, Ninjala, POKEMON
The Belmonts were the obvious choice there.
Each time I face an Incineroar I get into "avenge Decidueye" mode. I seriously hope for Meowscarada in the next game to complete a fully evolved starter trio, even if there's already two fully evolved fire starters haha
Incineroar 😡👎
Decidueye give it another chance please 🙏 🙄
@@vanessasandoval96 decidueye is in the game pokeken and incineroar isn't a bad pick, what character has taunt each time he uses a move ( you don't like him since he stand on two feet)
Fully evolved, part dark type starter trio at that
@@vanessasandoval96 To be more honest, Sakurai just wants to add a Smash character was a wrestler similar to King from Tekken series so he made a choice to add Incineroar in Smash Ultimate, instead.
Rillaboom or possibly fully evolved grass of Gen 10 will join next smash game/smash ultimate deluxe Port as by the time it arrives gen 10 will already be a thing and also the 30th anniversary of the Pokémon franchise will also be there by 2026.
I wish Issac was a fighter. He looks more like one instead hes been assisted since brawl😢
I like how kazuya was chosen because he had the chance to be more creative and the actual kazuya mains just use 1 really broken move
Yup because Nintendumb can't balance a game lol
"It would be too hard to make both characters move at once" has gotta be the biggest cap since "we didn't put any actual minecraft music in Smash Bros cause it was too hard to make it sound exciting"
No no, it's the biggest cap since "the 3ds can't run GBA games it would be too difficult"
I could imagine slimes final smash being a bunch of other slimes converging to become a king slime, and then just smothering everyone.
Everyone is literally forgetting the one we really need
Only legends remember the well made decidueye leaks
“It’s difficult to get two characters to move at the same time”
Ice climbers: the Fu-
Is sad how they didn't even thought about Isaac from Golden Sun,I was hoping he was gonna be on Smash 4 but he didn't and after I was hoping to see him in Ultimate but he was just a Trophy...again
It's especially sad considering how many rumors pre launch had like 90%+ of the roster right. When you saw Geno or Goku it was like thats fake. When you saw Isaac it was like..hmm. Maybe.
the pokken dx refrence at the start is amazing
“It was difficult to get 2 characters to move at the same time”
Me: Then how the hell do the Ice Climbers exist?!
Cause they're the same simple character
@@archie6890 Touché
If we wouldve got alucard over the belmonts i wouldve been PISSED
Slime in comp would’ve been amazing 😂
Alucard and Waluigi would’ve had me playing 😔
Man, i would have loved Decidueye as another ranged fighter. Nothing against Incineroar, but im still salty it ended up on two legs when it could have been really cool as a sabertooth on all fours. That anf its basically another Fire/Fighting type, at least in theme if not actual typing.
Ah yes, Alu Card.
Drac ula
I mean that's pretty how Maria Renard pronounced it in SotN's original English dub
Yes, thats how its said
"To give Kazuya a more creative moveset"
Every single move Kazuya uses is brought over from tekkan.
I always wanted slime to be a fighter. DQ Heroes Rocket Slime was my favorite game growing up.
Wasn't also highly rumored that Overwatch Tracer was on the plans, but the the whole Blizzard controversies surfaced
No, the devs just wanted her in
Nunca se planeo ningún personaje de Overwatch en Smash
I'm glad they went with Inceneroar. Not only is decidueye just not as cool, it just makes more sense to use a wrestler-themed pokemon for a fighting game
Ngl it was good for Simon & Richter to be reps instead of Alucard, at least they were playable on Nintendo hardware, unlike Symphony of the Night
The true lost fighter: Geno. The fans had been campaigning for him to be a character over 2 separate games, and we were ignored at every turn.
Sakurai was considering Slime, but not Bandana Waddle Dee. Feels bad, man.
We also might have gotten Kasumi as a costime to Joker but that probably got scraped due to Royal releasing after Joker did for Smash. I know it doesn't count for this but I still found it interesting.
Alucard would be amazing... i could sacrifice one Belmont for him xD
Yooo worth seeing akuma to be in smash an hehachi too IMAGINE HOW COMPETITIVE IT'LL BE FOR THE people who love street fighter and Tekken
Dont worry, they'll be back in Smash 6.
Min-min became the Arms rep because at the time they held an tournament in Arms and she was the one that won the tournament
Still salty over no Decidueye, we were missing a Grass starter for the trio!
Wonder if they’re gonna dump Incineroar but they’ll keep Charizard because Gamefreak just loves to glaze the flying lizard lately.
I love Hero, I'm a Hero main and everyone hates me for excessive use of my spell list, but by god if I wouldn't have loved playing as a Slime just as much.
ID KILL FOR DECIDUEYE THATS SO MUCH COOLER
Don’t worry there is hope that Rillaboom, Meowscarada or possibly fully evolved grass starter of Gen 10 will join next smash/smash ultimate deluxe port.
@@UltimateDragonX9999hope its rillaboom one of my fav starters
@@A-RUclipsr7 me too as it was my most gen 8 final evolution form. I even pick Grookey as my first Starter Pokémon to begin adventures when i first played Pokémon Shield.
@UltimateDragonX9999 My starter was Sobble, & I would have love to see Inteleon as the Gen 8 Rep.
Theres a pretty common theory/assumption among players in my area that byleth might have been built on a template that was originally made for a monster hunter rep. The bulky moveset and variety of large weapons feels very similar to what you would imagine a monster hunter to play like. It's been said that capcom prefers that the actual monsters are used instead of player characters so it's probably why we got a ratholos boss but no fighter
Spring Man y Rex viendo cómo no entraron al juego, aún siendo los protagonistas de sus entregas.
WE COULDVE HAD DECIDUEYE??
and Waluigi was never considered...
Hoping that if another Smash game EVER comes out, we get Alucard. I'm so upset to hear that he was considered and then demoted.
I would love to see Paula, Jeff, and Poo from EarthBound. It would be under the Ness slot, and have their actual moves from EarthBound instead of some random combination of PSI
Slime would have been HILARIOUS
I heard somewhere that originally in brawl they were gonna add the hunter from monster hunter in as a fighter but they didn’t know how to do their move set
No, sólo son rumores sin fundamento
Justice for decidueye
Atleast decidueye got to be in poken as a fighter
I still hate how min min has a reflector WHEN LITERALLY LOLA POP WAS THE ONLY CHARACTER IN ARMS WHO ACTUALLY HAD A REFLECTOR
I think the slime would be more interesting than another human with a sword
Another reason for Heichi is because he was already in playstations Smash Clone, Platstation All Stars Battle Royale
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That wasn't a win, it was an executive decision
I also heard something along the lines of Decidueye’s moveset would be too similar to Young/Toon Link
Awww, I would have loved Decidueye and Ninjara, but all we got was a fucking Mii suit
Can't believe Decidueye didn't get in! Would have been so cool to play as a Robin Hood owl, instead of a fursuiter.
I'm still tight about Ninjara not being in the game, I feel like he would've been way more interesting given that he's a ninja and the ninjas of smash are fast rushdown characters with cool combos
He automatically teleports whenever his shield is hit. That would’ve been so interesting to see translated into SSBU.
We need Conker and Paper Mario in the next Smash game
A Pokemon trainer with the Gen 7 starters could have been awesome
My boy dicidueye was almost in the game:(((((
Decidueye and Alucard not getting added is CRIMINAL. 😭
I can’t believe we didn’t get cute little rowlets final evolution 😔
Imagine of Heihachi got in instead. They would've rubbed that in Sony's face so hard
The fact that Sakurai mentally prepared himself to add a fucking slime over the main character of DQ11 really shows how profits-focused Squeenix has gotten.
Pan gets kidnapped leading him to pull a mui equivalent out of his ass remember when mui was a angels technique
to this day we all know it shouldve been twintelle over minmin
And don't forget Waluigi was one of the most requested characters to be playable in this game before release, but was still made an assist trophy
The Slime would definitely be interesting
Incineroar my beloved husband 😭
Furro
@@pelon10101 yes I am
I wouldve loved if twintelle was the arms rep, but minmin is awesome too