Schoma CHL-30G, German air cooled goodness - Lawrie Goes Loco Episode 10
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2019
- Hello people,
Today we have travelled down to the Bredgar and Wormshill railway to have a look at the most modern loco that I've ever driven - a little Schöma CHL 30G.
If you like what you see in the video and fancy visiting this very pretty little line, then the opening dates can be found on their website:
bwlr.co.uk/
A video featuring:
Lawrie - Filming, presenting and driving.
A video edited by Lawrie
A massive thank you to the Bredgar and Wormshill railway and to Chris for inviting us to drive his locomotive.
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Man living the dream, driving quirky trains in amazing locations!
I really am. Lots more lined up!
My 1yr old daughter has exploded with laughter every time you've used the two-tone.
Great loco review and looks a great place to visit if ever in the area.
I'm glad that I met her approval 😂
Its a super place to visit, well worth going for their gala!
Speaking of steering wheels, road rail vehicles are also very odd to drive because obviously you don't have to move the steering wheel when it's running on rails.
I'd really like to try one. Must be so strange!
Never been on a loco foot plate in my life but I'm sure that even I could drive that loco, its the true definition of German efficiency with ease of servicing and to use.
I've been on a Steam loco before: got do to a cab ride on the Texas State Railway, on a lovely ex-US Army 2-8-0 that really speaks with authority when she's got 5 coaches and a caboose (brake van) on the drawbar. I totally agree with you on your statement: while I could figure out most of what was needed to run the 2-8-0, I don't think I could keep it straight with the exhaust in my ear.
i actually work at a narrowguage museum and have driven similar stuff, it really is as easy as you think, just turn the wheel and go
@@sawyerawr5783 Wow, just googled that loco....what a beast, very fortunate to have that as an experience.
@@menofwar-os1wi I've never had any interest in rail until I started watching Lawrie, I'm more cars but now I'm starting to appreciate locos. This is the only one where I've watched him and thought I could drive that.....I think.
It really is a easy Loco!
That loco looks awesome!
And thanks,
Glad we're appealing to people who don't normally like this stuff!
What a beauty. I love narrow-guage engines.
Me too! They're just fun.
What is the track guage? It looks like around two feet.
It is indeed two foot.
Hi from Spain 🇪🇸 lovely passion you have, had to remind myself your a RUclipsr, for a moment i felt i was watching a TV documentary so well dome on the quality footage..
Thank you very much! High praise indeed! We're always amazed to have viewers all around the world!
Lawrie Goes Loco on the BBC.
That would be quite good fun.
TV can be rather limiting in that you do what the production wants though...
But thank you! Glad you're enjoying what we do!
It's controlled like a model railway loco with a wheel and worm gear but without a giant in the sky to rerail rolling stock and ping the points as necessary. It sounds gorgeous as diesels go, real smooth.
I like narrow gauge, and to add to my liking for this, the coach reminds me of an old American coach, like the two that are used on the Poway Midland Railroad.
They've got some amazing stuff down there. It's all got so much character!
Great video Lawrie! These locos are great little things. Keep up the great work, and can’t wait for the 20k special!
Glad you enjoyed it, its a lovely little thing!
We'll certainly try our best!
Your channel is AWESOME, the BEST that I watched....Thanks!
Thank you very much!
Those turbo prop air cooled diesel engine’s are wicked cool. Last forever if maintained properly.
Yeah apparently they're pretty bomb proof!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels love your videos. Not too interested in locomotives but somehow you’ve got me watching these weirder style ones!
@@NitroGuyJH thank you, glad you're enjoying what we do! Very rewarding for us to hear that you're watching evening though not really into locos!
That's an awesome little loco and great narrow gage railway. Looks like it was so much fun to just run around with no one else in the line. This is by far my favorite of your series. Can't wait for the next one!
Thank you very much. It really was a lovely day out, great Loco, lovely line.
You seemed very happy at all on your outing, sir! Superb video as always...
I'm always happy on trains buddy!
Thank you!
@@lmm, my pleasure, sir!
Drove the big brothers of this while working on the construction of the Channel Tunnel. Best (paid) job I ever had. Happy times.
Oh awesome, that must have been an amazing thing to be part of!
@@lmm It was impressive, especially pit bottom at Shakespeare, and the crossovers. I mostly worked with Hand Tunnelers, who dug the Cross-passages and Piston Relief Ducts. Long periods of boredom, interspersed with a gang of Irishmen all screaming at you to "swap the fucking skips over, NOW!!!" Great guys, but they were on big bonus wages, and worked like stink. All the best, and thanks for taking me back 25+ years. ;o)
Pondering the simple pleasures,
Rolling breeze in the face,
Standard or narrow measures...
Your smile says "This is the place!"
Wonderful little documentary, Lawrie.
So, too... is this little locomotive.
John
It really was a lovely day out. Glad you enjoyed it!
That little engine looks like it runs like a dream. (The hydraulic drive in it reminds me of the smoothness of a forklift)
these videos of yours are great, it's so good to see operating procedures demonstrated from start to finish on a variety of equipment... its no good though i need to find myself somewhere to go driving... as soon as we get through the closed season...
Highly recommend volunteering, it's very rewarding!
In the mean time, I'm glad that you're enjoying what we do!
What a charming video, great host, nicely done video! Keep these train ones coming!
Thank you very much! Loads more railway content lined up!
nice video as ever and hope to visit the Bredgar and Wormshill railway in the future also nice to see your ruston has a name now
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Bredgar is a lovely line, their gala is well worth getting to.
She's always had a name, we just made it better! It'll be coming up in a future video.
Reminds me of a modern hydrostatic lawn tractor with a little bit of Hunslet diesel-ism to it.
The paint thing is interesting, kind of the opposite of why steam engines are typically painted black - Neat that it worked in so many weird occupations like being on that cable ship!
Yeah, I imagine the actual drive will be pretty similar.
I hadn't thought of that about the paint, but yes interesting reversal. It's had an interesting life!
Beautiful little thing. This and your 48 have to be my favorites
It's great isn't it - really looks industrial.
You clearly have good taste!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels thank you:)
Super little loco and a great advert for the B&WLR too - nice one! The pepperpot on the dash is probably an indicator for the glowplugs - very similar unit on International diesel tractors like your B-275 :-)
Oh of course, that would make sense. Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video!
tbh i'm very impressed about the sharp edges of this loco. and lawrie,you did well with your german. i'm german and salute you. because at least you tried a bit^^
This is probably the eighth time I heard you mention your Ruston loco, so I’m about to finally watch your video about that. lol
You obviously had a blast with that! Oh to have enough land to build my own railway. I see that Bredgar also have an ex-Chilmark Barclay too. Chilmark was an interesting site!
That's always been my dream too!
That's an adorable little locomotive :) Apart from the wheels and the ingenious "steering wheel" mechanism that controls speed and direction, I think it would be fairly easy to assemble something like this for my own personal use. There are plenty of small used diesel engines available, and hydraulic motors aren't all that expensive. You could even avoid having driveshafts by putting hydraulic motors on each wheel, and just having the engine turn a hydraulic pump. Pick up a sheet or two of 1/2" or 3/4" steel, and go from there :)
Oh it's pretty simple. Hardest thing I suppose would be making the wheels, but certainly it would be an interesting project!
Using modern laser or water jet cutting the raw wheels could be cut out of thick plate and then tuned to size on a big lathe. Axles would be turned from bar stock. Not a difficult job if you have big enough machinery.
@@gregwarner3753 I would probably just buy round pieces of steel that were slightly larger than the finished wheels needed to be. However, as you pointed out, I would need to find someone with a lathe large enough to turn them down to the correct size/shape, as well as the axles. Not an impossible task to be sure, but I would have to do quite a bit of searching to find someone that can do it for me. I suppose I could always keep my eye out for someone selling an older lathe that would do the job, and just buy it ;)
@Greg Warner I am also considering contacting the company that made the locomotive featured in this video, to see if I can buy that excellent "steering valve" mechanism :) If not, maybe I can find something similar from another manufacturer.
I was thinking you were a bit of a muppet watching the videos of you buying a crane ffs , i have changed my mind after watching you on the various engines on the railway and hearing you own an engine ,wow . Well done on the videos . You have to get the fire engine running and cut your losses on the MR2 in my opinion. Enjoy your hobby and dont stretch yourself too thin. Best regards Don.
I don't have a crane - the crane that I looked at belongs to my friend. I do now own a digger though.
I'm a self confessed muppet.
Having a Loco is an amazing experience, which I never thought I'd be able to do.
The fire engine isn't too far away from running, and we are stretching ourselves thin, but we're having alot of fun whilst we do it!
Nice video Lawrie loved this loco
Thank you, me too!
Oh my god it’s adorable!
Isn't it just. Weird little thing 😂
Lawrie's Yes wired and adorable
If you were asked to build a scratch build locomotive, it's not a bad starting point. Start looking for a suitable engine though. :-)
So many options if you were going to build your own 😂
Almost at 20K subs! Well done
Thank you, it's coming along nicely!
Great video of another superb little loco. I think I've had a ride behind sister engine at Queen Elizabeth Park at Ashington - looks very similar
Oh really?
@@lmm Yes its definitely a Schoma (No.2). They also have a little Hunslet diesel named black diamond. I'd send a photo but not sure how
I always enjoy 😉 your videos; it gives me a touch of England 🏴. I’m surprised 😲 that the designers didn’t make it better aerodynamically sleeker, seeing how fast 💨 it travels. Also enjoyed the police siren horn.
Glad you're enjoying the videos.
I agree, when you're approaching full power you can really feel the wind resistance holding you back 😂
I loved the two tone 😂
Love the little two tone horns on this loco
So did I!
That looks like a lot fun!
It really was!
Thank you, great fun!!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
Beautiful engine Lawrie loons so sweet like a little toy
It has got a very toy like look to it hasn't it 😂
@@lmm yes sure has
That break van is very cool 👍🏻 and the loco
Everything at the railway is in absolutely tip top condition!
Ha, the first thing I thought was, he brought another loco.
Lovely little loco and I'm sure like most people here, would love to have a go.
It's a really lovely little thing. Had a really nice day out on it.
There's a couple of locos I'd love to buy if I had the money to save them.
Have you folks ever head of the Waterville Wiscasset and Farmington RR in Alna, Maine, USA? It is a 2ft gauge historic railroad operating pond a selection of the original ROW. It operates a couple of originnal steam engines and passenger cars. There is also a repair shop with the capacity to repair the engines. Great museum.
Thank you for your excelent post.
I've not, but I'll be sure to check it out now!
You're most welcome
Driving a GP-38-3 literally everyday (weekdays) that is very interesting, like 3 controls, no dynamic, no independent, just a engine brake, throttle and horns
it's amazing how different you look in the far shots :P
Oh yeah, funny that - looks like my overalls change and everything 😂
Yay love the vids btw
Hello from Australia
Hello to you down under!
Glad you're enjoying what we do!
Coen: I'm another Aussie. Currently Based in Melbourne, Victoria.
It’s always fun to watch a nerd have a total ‘geek out’ at something.
You've not seen nothing yet 😂
I work at a museum railway in Sweden where we have a small shunting engine called "pyret". Just like Jenny that uses a steering wheel for the gears, pyret uses two steering wheels which are placed either side of the control panel and ofcourse the steering wheels are connected to eachother .
Very similar drive to a Bomag Roller.They have an air cooled 2 cylder deutx engine, and its hydrostatic drive.The move you move the stick one way, the faster it goes, and vis- versa.Still pretty cool :P
Yeah that's the kind of thing. Pretty simple!
Nice little Loco, also wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of that green Loco behind at 27:17
I was working on it
Great video! Perhaps the name Jenny comes from the boxy body covered in vents making her look very much like a large generator. I wonder Schöma would let you come and test drive one of their current models if you asked.
That's a really good theory! You could well be on to something.
I'll wait until we get a little bit bigger, and then ask them!
Another great video! Would like to see you drive the BD70 loco that’s behind you at the end of the video. 👍
Thank you very much!
We've just got to arrange a date for me to go back and do just that!
lovely video.
Thank you!
The father of a girl friend of mine used to work there untill he retired about 15 years ago. I've driven past their old works when visiting her parents.
Oh really? Quite the place to have worked I'd have thought!
I would love this loco so amazingly simple
It's fantastic isn't it.
It looks like a spinoff of the GTA SA locomotive
Hahahah, kinda does
Love going loco!
Well thank you!
That wheel seems pretty similar to how some model railways and remote control vehicles are controlled, with turning the wheel the corresponding direction and speed being managed by the amount turned.
Yeah, pretty much identical.
Very easy.
Having been born and bred in nearby Sittingbourne I had no idea this railway was this good.
It's really super!
I love your channel art that's neat
Thank you! We've been playing with it for absolutely ages 😂
The plate should probably reflect the heat of exhaust away from the rubber blocks. ;)
I’ve been the the B&WLR before. Cracking little line! Are there any plans to do a LGL down at Amberley? Ive been there a few times and it’s got some fab little engines.
It's a fantastic railway.
I contacted Amberley and they never got back to me 😔
The pie warmer plate is a heat shield to keep radiant heat from the exhaust from aging the rubber motor mounts. A well thought out proper working machine, although I think the handbrake is a bit excessive having worm drive transmission it's not moving anywhere unless the drive shaft rotates.
I suspected as such, but I like the pie shelf idea more!
The handbrake I suspect is mostly for stopping the thing from creeping if the hydraulic valve is leaking slightly.
@@lmm You are probably right there, it's a German belts and braces design well thought through. The pie warmer feature is a happy by product of necessity :-)
I would love to come visit all your trains and would realy like to get a chance to drive one of the small ones around like this one. :)
The UK really is spoilt with all the railways and locomotives we own.
Nice thanks
You're welcome!
More please Lawrie.pretty please!
Loads more lined up!
Even I could drive that. Lovely little engine.
It's so wonderfully easy!
@@lmm Change the color scheme and it could be something that Fischer Price came up with under the product name of My First Locomotive. :-)
Yeah, it's pretty simple isn't it 😂
7:26- the little plate is a heat shield for the motor mounts.
If you like narrow guage if you cross the pond to the states you should go see the WW&F railway in Maine.
I'm hoping to return to the USA next year. When I start planning my trip I'll work on how many railways I can get to.
Cool little loco. Would like to see any footage of this working aboard a ship. A ship tractor train.
I think there's a photo somewhere
Who'd have thought a 10 mile an hour trundle could be so entertaining!
I honestly don't even think I hit ten 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels Certainly did, lots of fun! That’s just up the road from me, I’ve done a couple of shoots in the grounds but didn’t know how big the track layout is
It's a really nice place - some super vehicles parked up there too!
Narrow gauge RRs in the UK are just absolutely gorgeous
We're very lucky with the railways we have here.
there's something pretty need it just came up on hornby's website a Ruston locomotive like your standard gauge engine I'm from the United States I really like it when you operate steam locomotive if you ever come back please try some of our Railroad Museum so they operate steam
The Hornby model is super cute. I really hope that they'll produce one of 294266 in the future!
I'm looking at trying to arrange such a thing when I'm out there next year. If you know of any railways that would be up for it, let me know!
It does one job, and it does one that job well.
Exactly!
Railway owners: so where did you previous-
Jenny: *BOAT* *RAILWAY*
The same locos weve had here in the peat-works before they where closed down 12 years ago. Now we are a Peat-Museum near Salzburg and had some Gmeinder locos there. So as you said, if you like you can visit us and drive there with our locos and the "Schienenkuli"
I would love to! Would you mind dropping me an email and we'll see what we can organise?
I dont know how in the UK, but at least in most of Europe the "steering wheel" was the most common user interface to control the power (and dynamic breaking) on all non steam engines since the first electric ones appeared at the start of the 20'th century. It only starts to disappear since later 80's, when the advanced electronic and automation was dominating in the controls, so it became replaced by a straight moving handle. Even many industrial locos with mechanical transmissions use a kind of "steering wheel" to control the clutch...
It's not common over here. I've seen a few other examples, but certainly not the norm.
That plate is a heat shield to keep the radiant heat of the muffler from melting the rubber engine mounts.
That makes sense!
Many antique streetcars (trams) in Germany use a steering wheel on their type "B" controllers. the handle of a type "B" controller would turn almost 360 degrees! One half designated with an arrow to the right reads, "Fahren" as in drive, go! While to the left is an arrow labelled, "Bremse" or brake. There is a seperate control handle for forward and reverse.
Oh that's interesting. That's on electric drive though right? So did turning the other was start the motors to put up resistance this braking or apply manual brakes?
@@lmm Yes, electric! Trolleys, trams usually run on about 600 vdc. Turning the wheel or control handle from the neutral point into the braking points adds resistance from the motors. This usually fades out at from 3 - 5 miles per hour. That's when the hand brake is applied. Each braking point adds more resistance(through resistor banks). When accelerating, however, each point of acceleration offers less resistance (through resistor banks); the final point of acceleration has no resistance.. Points of acceleration on a streetcar or tram will start with the motors in series, maybe 4 points with full series having no resistance; then a gap; then several, maybe three or four points of resistance with the motors wired in parallel; the final point having no resistance.
Oh that's quite interesting. I know very little on trams!
Ouh i drive by Schöma every day. Great video
Oh really? Where do you drive it?
@@lmm I meant to say that I live in the Region around Diepholz and drive by the factory every day
@@Knallteute oh really! That's awesome.
I'd love to be able to see the factory. Be great to drive a brand new Loco.
@@lmm yeah. They have put some older ones in the middle of roundabouts as a decoration.
The tractor reference is very apt as Deutz engines are used in a lot of tractors as well as a lot of specialist heavy motorised equipment such as trucks used in oil exploration work as they're incredibly tough and will run for millions of miles on the sniff of an oily rag in terms of maintenance...
That one's probably not so bad when it's cold out as the hot cooling air from the engine will probably help keep the cab somewhat warmer...
Deutz also continued to use air-cooled engines for a fair while after other manufacturers had long been using liquid cooled engines.
@@The_J_Man Yes, absolutely, because they were ideal for use in very harsh conditions. As long as the fan kept providing cooling air they were pretty much bomb-proof...
I had no idea that they were that good!
Great video, I notice you're not doing all the driving in some of the shots, what's the story there?
It was just me that day, so I had to film the drive by shots!
I want a Lyons cake now!
Hahaha, one or other has missed a marketing opportunity 😂
Schöma is still in business. In Germany they call this type of locomotive an 'Industrielok' since it's used in industry.
I knew they were still in business, which is pretty awesome. That makes sense, thanks!
Pronounciation of "Diepholz": "Deep" like deep water, then "Holt's".
Ah! Thank you!
Those little narrow Gage locos are cool but you should head over to America and run some of the big ones
If I can make it happen I would love to!
I found this very interesting as I have rebuilt a few Deutz (and Lister) air cooled diesel engines including the 3 cylinder engine. If it has not been done already, I would recommend replacing the cooling fan bearing as the lubricant dries out and gets contaminated after many years. It is an easy and low cost job. Also avoid quick start spray on these Deutz engines as the detonation can cause the cylinder head to leak compression between it and the cylinder.
Thank you for the information, I'll pass it on to the owner.
What are they like to rebuild?
@@lmm The Deutz is not hard to rebuild but there are some procedures that differ from other engines.The head, connecting rod and main bearing bolts are angle torqued (more accurate) and require an angle torque wrench. Also there is no cylinder head gasket on the engines I rebuilt so the head is lapped in with fine lapping paste. It is best to get the Deutz repair manual before attempting the rebuild as there are a couple of other procedures as well. The only reason I had to rebuild the Deutz engines was either the cyl. head popped from guys using quick start spray (cold climate) or they went under water when the mine sumps filled up too fast and flooded the engines (the engines ran water pumps). The Deutz in the loco. should be good for many more years as they are very rugged and long lasting. Maybe replace or rebuild the fuel injectors at some point as they get weak after a few years.
So pretty good engines then if they're looked after?
@@lmm Yes, very good engines.
Another FWIW. The cog railway that climbs Mt. Washington, in New Hampshire, USA, has just built a number of diesel hydraulic engines to supplement their steam engines. This was first rack and pinion mountain climbing railroad in the world. It is still carrying passengers to and from the top.
I've heard of that one!
you are one of the luckiest guys i know. you get to play with the coolest toys. the steering wheel is a rotary hydraulic valve. that's a very sensible way of controlling that engine, seeing as it is hydraulically driven. we had a ih 706 tractor that had power steering, and the steering was controlled by a rotary valve. there was no physical connection to the wheels at all. the paint thing is a good way of gauging time of use on the engine. a clean engine hasn't been used much. a dirty one has, and needs some attention.
I am rather having alot of fun - can you tell?
It's a super way of controlling a Loco. Makes total sense on a hydraulically driven thing.
Oh that's a cool steering setup.
I thought it was a great way of keeping on top of maintenance. When dirty, service 😂
Yes I know it's not really a steering wheel, just I liked the term 😂
@@lmm it would be kinda neat if it were a steering wheel, and it could go off track. could you imagine "off roading" a railway engine? sounds completely bonkers, and tons of fun. i saw a supra today for the first time in a long time, and i thought of you guys. amazingly enough, it didn't have any rust at all. must have spent most of it's life out west, i figure.
My Supra is so rotten 😂
I mean there are diggers and such which go off road and then onto rails.
I'll need to get a go in one 😂
Jenny is Way Out! 💫
if not a little loco ...
You don't suppose the inner hood temperature has anything to do with Diesel Combustion ?
That Steering Wheel makes total sense
I think you might have cracked it 😂
It looks so similar to the locos at crowle peatland railway near me!
Yeah, it's very similar indeed. We'll be heading up there at some point to review the engine there!
How do I find a local private railways? are there any forums or website where people share information about there private railways and engines? I would love to visit one.
For the UK this is a good place to start
www.heritage-railways.com/
On the flat how much weight can something like this pull?
A surprisingly high amount for a little Loco. It's got lots of torque. I'm afraid I can't remember quite the figure.
I have driven an simular engine in the Netherlands, but its controls where bit broken.
How did you find out about the loco working on a ship? That sounds fascinating.
The owner knew its history.
If you look here on the Alan Keef website you can see a photo of it!
www.alankeef.co.uk/services/industrial/
how much is its tractive effort?
The only locomotive ive been on was a massive 4-8-4 which is sadly now in a very bad condition after 40+ years of sitting as a static exhibit
I haven't ever managed anything that big! Shame, takes alot of manpower to look after these things though.
wait what??!! whey does it have any breaks at all if it has worm drive final gearing (aka OO model train gearing ~ laughs ~ ).
it's not like it can roll away...
I suspect the plate is there to shield the engine mountings behind it from exhaust heat.
Yes, I think so, but I preferred the food heater idea 😂
I really really want one of those
So do I! It's a great Loco, very useful!
I love narrow gauge trains I so want to build my own railway on my property
That's a great idea. I'd love to do the same if I had the space
@@lmm and I'm going to have steam locomotives running on my Railroad and annoying my neighbors who are jerks to me and my family
@@jeffreymonroe4776 well that'll be super!
Where are you driving the train at? Is that a private narrow gauge railway track?
As mentioned in the video, it's the Bredgar and Wormshill railway.
What Gauge is that rail?
It's two foot, 610mm
Living in the diepholz area some years ago, you could watch the Schömas going on the little narrow gauge peat work railways there in and out. Nothing special.