Narrow gauge Industrial electric railways in Saxony March 2018
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2018
- As well as the more famous steam narrow gauge operations in Saxony, Germany, there are also some electric narrow gauge systems. This film opens with some scenes taken between the plant at Stassfurt and the quarry operation at Forderstedt. The operation is 2km long and runs off 520 volts. The factory produces around 430,000 tones of soda ash per annum which is used for the manufacture of glass and detergents as well as in the steel industry. Look out for cable and gravity shunting!
The last 2 scenes were taken on the 2km long 900mm gauge (600 volts) railway the runs between the Solvay factory at Bernburg and the quarry at Tagebau
What a brilliant video! I loved the use of the gradient for 'running round'.
Thank you very much!
It's great to see industrial electric narrow gauge locomotives still in use.
Its well worth a visit and a real throwback to the 'former times'.
Great footage of these small locos, which were produced from 1952 to 1983 by LEW Henningsdorf. 22 locos were built, six of them were delivered to VEB Vereinigte Sodawerke Bernburg in Stassfurt.
These are some of the most unique "critter" locomotives I've ever seen - electric, diamond pantographs, narrow gauge? And virtually silent at that. Amazing little locos. Just doesn't get much more unique than that.
one of the oldiest industrials machines - ruclips.net/video/tNFKut3NA5s/видео.html
Interesting way of switching (shunting) cars using gravity. I had never seen that before. Fascinating video.
God what a fantastic vid! I sat here mesmerized. Company certainly gets their money's worth out of the loco operators. A true one man operation. Looks like he also did the loading and timed it with the cable and winch.
Cheers for posting this BTW.
Great footage, I love e quirky electric locos.
The first scene reminds me of the old Triang Steeple cabs I,had.
Nice to see the old diamond pantographs .
Those engines coulda used a little Raymond Loewy.
This addition is not really relevant but the original plans for the L & B in Devon were to build an overhead style traction system.
Steam won the day however and in 1935 they rushed through the closure and of course wasted no time whatsoever in scrapping the lovely, newish locos. No questions asked. Possibly done illegally, it has been argued.
These narrow- gauge scenes in Saxony are wonderful - and all the more so for being on AC systems. And it is forging ahead,
I knew nothing whatsoever about this until today. Thanks for posting it on RUclips.
Excellent! Thanks. Beautiful bridges at the end.
These engines look like they have been in a fire or around a long time, my opinion.👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Yes they look so ugly too in terms of design and look too
These were built from the early 50s to the 80s, so you are looking at a locomotive that is between 40 to 70 years old.
Very nice vid, thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing fly shunting using the gradient to run the train round the loco!
We do that in the UK too with Trams and the trailer cars. Run them up just past a run round, gravity shunt the trailer into a loop while the tramcar moves to the opposite end at the same time *requires a fast point change*, slowly roll the trailer car down to the Tramcar now waiting on the other end, drop the coupler bar, off you go.
@@pega17pl If you watch the Manx Electric Railway (M.E.R.) they used to gravity shunt too. Its on Isle Of Man here in UK
@@emeraldzebra9360 - I watched the Gravity Slate Train on the Ffestiniog Railway in Wales.
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They used them in Durham until the mines closed in the 90s to roll the full trains down to the docks with a cable pulling the empties back up
great video, these locos are Dr Frankenstein types,love the diamond pantagraphs,reminds me of the Triang steeple cab locos
Brilliant. Appreciate your time.
Thank you for sharing.
There was a line in Japan,(2 foot),that actually operated passenger service,and also used mine locomotives! It would have bee
(Continued),been nice if you had put the mm-inch,equivalent! I know it's 2 foot,and 2'-6",but it keeps us old heads on the ball,thanks 😊!
Awesome! Wonderful to model in any of the larger scales. Per chance a 600mm & 900mm dual-gauge layout is in order. Cheers!
Great stuff Mr T.
Like other people mentioned, the gravity shunting blew my fragile little mind. I understand a hump yard, but that was more like a bowl yard - throw the cars up one side of the bowl, and flip the switch before they come back down, and then they go up the other side of the bowl and stop? Bowling with soda? Then I noticed - no apparent brake lines - definitely don't mess with that train at the crossing. It seems to all be stopped with the locomotive. I guess that is standard practice for industrial railroads?
Looks like they upgraded the track at Stassfurt from the time of my visit in 2013. Nice work!
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An excellent video. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. ♡ T.E.N.
Very nice. And the track is pretty decent for an industrial line. I think those are SKL clips on the track which leads to the loading tower. Not something you see often on narrow gauge.
It seems to continue to receive investment. I understand that they have received some new locos in the last 12 months as well.
Never seen such do-it-yourself narrow gauge electro locos. And how gravitiy is simply used. - Cheers, Heinz
Nice video! Stassfurt and Forderstedt are in Saxony-Anhalt. So much time has to be.
Oh that carbon dust from the electrodes!!!
At first sight I thought that the train driver must sit in what looked like a primitive windowless cab under the pantagraph but I see it's at the rear and does have windows.
First time I see electric chairs on rails
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Too bad the engines couldn’t get a nice coat of paint!
Look at that sad, weary face
They look like they’ve been on fire.
They need it. Looks like they haven't been painted in 30 years.
the railcars are cleaner than the locomotives
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Fascinating footage, thanks for sharing.
Couple of queries if I may. Does the Stassfurt line run through publicly accessible areas? And are both lines easily accessible by public transport? Thanks.
I travelled to this area by car therefore I am uncertain about access using trains/buses. However, the 'right to roam' laws in Germany make this a fairly accessible line.
This is probably worse when there is a snowstorm.
I bet it gets cold in this cabs!
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When the panto kill the loco and the waggons roll by themselves. Very nice :-)
I love the old contraptions on the Stassfurt line. The pantographs seem to wobble like a jelly and I wonder how often they have dewiring incidents. The wagons are great too.
Do you have any details about the locos and the line? I am thinking about building a OO9 line with overhead electrification. The hopper wagons would be ideal, but will need to be scratch built.
The locos were built by Lokomotivbau-Elektrotechnische Werke (LEW) in Hennigsdorf and are based on a mining loco, but with pantograph fitted instead.
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Thanks for that. Do you know when they were built?
@@flyingporker100 If I remember right between 1952 and 1983. There aren't much dewiring accidents. Thats the reason why they have the diamond style pantograph
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cant hear a thing over those noisy wind turbines. sounds like an aircraft landing and taking off.
Those 900mm lines look like the 900mm lines and equipment built by Seimens for the SECV in Southern Australia after WWI
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funny looking locomotives pushing and pulling soda ash cars on the narrow gauge rails. Pantographs raised high (for safety) to reach the trolley wire with these small engines. from 10:25 to 13:14 there is a more modern railway of this kind.
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Were they Soviet era and origin? Certainly like a lot of Soviet era eastern bloc stuff they look somewhat strange in comparison to western units.
GDR production, since they were produced from 1952 to 1983.
Wow, how old are those locomotives?
They were produced from 1952 to 1983. So, they are between 68 and 37 years old.
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3:53 the cars move by themselves?
Gravity!
At 3:33 saving Mother Earth.
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New gravity engine featured 03:17
Do they have horns?
When the carts can move on their own, on flat surface (when connecting to the engine, the carts move towards the engine), why need an engine in the first place?
The distance to the main factory curves too much for a gravity railway, thats the loader then a few miles away is the processing plant
Out of curiosity, does anyone know why the company has not elected to replace them with conveyor belts?
That's a good question - I guess its purely down to cost.
Couldn't help noticing the STOP sign in English, not German.
In Poland and Russia STOP signs are in English too.
In Croatian it's "STOP" too. I know in German "HALT" would be the proper word.
Despite the German grammar we use since 1997, it's really a German stop sign.
In Dutch it is STOP as well 🤝
I've noticed that in Canada they use the French for stop which is 'Arrete', but France uses 'Stop' - very confusing!!!!
fantastic narrow gage, but where is this?
Staßfurt, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany
Thank you ! Are they still alive?
@@onemax8886 Some of them maybe, but since new locos have been delivered in 2019, the old locomotives are probably about to be replaced in the near future.
whats the name of engine?
A bit of DDR tech still lives.
IC, thnx.
You're welcome
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Why is narrow gage used?
Not really sure - there are no access issues so I'm guessing just that the cost is less.
My guess would be that back in the day there were different rulesets for normal rail and "industrial rail" (don't really know the right word.).
Also the GDR was not allowed to build certain types of locomotives due to treaties
Which country
Its in Germany, near Leipzig.
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Of course there was another small claim to fame here, in that a good part of the Hiroshima bombs fissile uranium was captured by the allies in this area and used to fuel the US bombs dropped on Japan.
The U.S. Shinkansen...😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is Germany bro
We are watching the same video right?
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Most boring place ever