Very rude of you to comment this and give me hope for actual changes. We got all the way down to warlock before I realized that you were being sarcastic lol.
@@Anonymoussss0207oh come on, that’s not true at all. Warlocks have had worst class design and talent tree for years and even now they added some nonsense like “gain 2% crit” or some nonsense! We need viable active/passive talents that would be impactful, not nonsense
@@Factual_Truth I main devastation I have 2.7k pvp experience on it and I lose 1v1 to 1.5k experience locks in green gear. Even in PVE I'm 2.7k Rio and get out damaged by undergeared locks. So I never understand when people say locks are weak.
@@Anonymoussss0207 my friend, read my comment again. Class design and talent tree, not tuning/balancing or having numbers. It’s about the fun of the class, not getting higher number of pixels on your screen
Venom rushe doesn't refund energy from poisons per se . Iy refunds 5 energy from mutilate and ambush uses. Most rogues dont use it. Venomous wounds is what youre thinking of. We RELY on that passive. Thats where our energy regen really comes from.
Ya know, I've watched Supatease for almost 2 years and I only just noticed there's a piano behind you!! I had no idea you played! Would love to see you bang out a Chopin piece one day. Just for me? Pretty please?
15:50 With sanguine stratagem they just allow assa to also get their 7th cp like outlaw does or you can get ur 6th and go something else on the rogue tree.
Thank god they haven't touched the best built and conceived class in the game: Enhance shaman. I was sweating worried that they might rework their talents into something decent. But my fears have not come to be, it is safely forgotten as is tradition.
I don't understand these comments. You see them systematically going through and reworking every class, which they can't all do at once. Wouldn't you rather them do a few specs at a time and do them well rather than doing them all and doing it poorly? Just be patient ffs
@@farmerjoseph8683 haven't touched Hunter, rogue, demon hunter, or priest literally all you've got to do is wait. This is exactly what iteration looks like, more than one change over the course of a few weeks to get feedback and react to it through an alpha and beta process that is going to last a number of months why don't you look at the facts and be patient ffs
@@farmerjoseph8683 that's how iteration works they make changes get feedback then make changes again based on that feedback. It's a few weeks dedicated to each class in an alpha beta process that will last months literally all you have to do is wait and then provide that feedback when they get to your class. Shaman is also not the only one they haven't touched
Hunter changes are coming guys, they're going to announce it soon. Let's be optimistic here. They've read the feedback on the forums, and i'm sure their working on it.
Sanguine strat seems like it is a version of deeper start thats on the ROGUE tree and replaces venom rush to be on the ASSA tree. I dont use deeper strat b/c I wont be able to get thisyle tea so this allows me to get the benefit of deeper strat on the assa tree.
I care a lot about animations / spell visuals. Decimating Bolt spell visual was beautiful. Wildfire for Fire Mages was really fun to see. I hate it when they do this.
Making it fun is more important than making it look good and they can always tweak visuals. They still aren't done with all the new hero talent visuals
@@LordHypnos4 I agree fun is more important than visuals overall but I doubt they’re going to use Decimating Bolt’s visual for anything else. Just make the spell more fitting to the playstyle and make it a choice and there’s no reason to remove it. I don’t get Wildfire removal either it had a neat little animation and I can’t recall negative feedback about it anywhere I have seen
I wouldn't worry about the skill ceiling, especially with a spec like Arcane which was already needlessly complicated. There's a reason PvE had so many rotation botters banned this year and it's because for many specs with the abundance of procs and variable gameplay, that it's very difficult for a human being to keep up with what's going on. The fact that so many people need to pay for a service to keep up with their rotations speaks volumes.
Blizzard do whatever they want and don't listen to what the players want. This is the problem. what if they increase the power of the evoker when there is no defense, and the range is still 25 yards. Stupid Hunter not only has a lot more mobility, not only does it have stealth, but it also shoots from 40 yards. How is this balanced against Evoker? All casters without exception have a 40-yard range, only the evoker has 25. Which makes us extremely easy prey of all classes. This needs to change.
For Mistweaver, I dislike Chi Harmony. It doesn't flow well with the Caster MW playstyle, since it requires you to interrupt Soothing Mist to refresh the buff all the time.
Damn man, at this point they may as well make hunter an archived class or something, they bascially had the exact same mechanics and abilities since like WotLK or some shit. They are in a BAD state and is the class in the most dire need a of a PROPER rework, yet they will stay the way they are until the servers are shut down for the game it seems.
guys relax they cant buff/redesign every class in every patch. we still have some time before war within actually releases, just trust and give it some time and we'll see changes across the board.
Enhancement shaman is complete dogshit in retail and has been forever. Its amazing in SOD and everyone plays it. DH, Rogue, Ret, Warrior have had multiple reworks and enhancement is just dogshit F tier for years.
Warlock massively underplayed right now in current wow. Massively underrepresented in PVP. See warlock press your buttons bam it's dead. They gotta fix it badly.
Destro feels so good to play in DF I love how they are spending time polishing a good spec when they haven’t even looked at some of the worst specs and classes in the game
i guess war within kinda dead already just gonna be a knock off dragonflight so why would player go for it ? they gonna wait mop and after that wow kinda in big problems 😢
Loving the shaman attention. Feels like we are really on the devs mind.
same for the shadow priest :D
Shaman is on the devs mind
The devs mind: I fucking hate shaman
Very rude of you to comment this and give me hope for actual changes. We got all the way down to warlock before I realized that you were being sarcastic lol.
@@CP_Tacti bruh anytime you see those comments just know they never gave a fuck about Shams lol
I feel this in my soul. Everybody gets revamps, class tuning, etc. Meanwhile shaman just get nerfs & a buff to waterwalking 😂
Man shaman probably has the highest potential in the game when it comes to cool spells and design, how are they not making awesome stuff with it?
*crying in survival*
Waiting for the next patch “survival spec has been removed”
@@eugenesternin6039 At least hunters still have three specs, when will Demon Hunters get a third.
@@MarineCorpzor1 Your ONE dps spec is better than our three specs. Not talking about numbers, but mechanics and how it plays.
Survival didn't do a great job at Surviving the Meta.
@@Kanoog its desrved after SL press 1 button and automaticaly top dmage
I just want two-handed shaman to come back.
Meanwhile Hunter using the same mechanics for over a decade...
Thats why i stop playing this class
its made for people with 2 braincells ofc *cough BM*
Clearly blizz find nothing broken about it
@@javelinmaster2 no, they need buffs :P
#sarcasm
Technically, only 6 year for MM 🤓 I loved legion mm though
Destro is eatin good now
Destro is always eating good ! There has never been an expansion where locks are bad
@@Anonymoussss0207oh come on, that’s not true at all. Warlocks have had worst class design and talent tree for years and even now they added some nonsense like “gain 2% crit” or some nonsense! We need viable active/passive talents that would be impactful, not nonsense
@@Factual_Truth I main devastation I have 2.7k pvp experience on it and I lose 1v1 to 1.5k experience locks in green gear. Even in PVE I'm 2.7k Rio and get out damaged by undergeared locks. So I never understand when people say locks are weak.
@@Anonymoussss0207 my friend, read my comment again. Class design and talent tree, not tuning/balancing or having numbers. It’s about the fun of the class, not getting higher number of pixels on your screen
Where is the shaman stuff? smh. We always get neglected.
calm, it's coming
I can feel all the shaman love.
Venom rushe doesn't refund energy from poisons per se . Iy refunds 5 energy from mutilate and ambush uses. Most rogues dont use it. Venomous wounds is what youre thinking of. We RELY on that passive. Thats where our energy regen really comes from.
Ya know, I've watched Supatease for almost 2 years and I only just noticed there's a piano behind you!! I had no idea you played! Would love to see you bang out a Chopin piece one day. Just for me? Pretty please?
He plays the sax too I believe, and also freestyles. A man of many hats.
15:50 With sanguine stratagem they just allow assa to also get their 7th cp like outlaw does or you can get ur 6th and go something else on the rogue tree.
Thank god they haven't touched the best built and conceived class in the game: Enhance shaman. I was sweating worried that they might rework their talents into something decent. But my fears have not come to be, it is safely forgotten as is tradition.
I don't understand these comments. You see them systematically going through and reworking every class, which they can't all do at once. Wouldn't you rather them do a few specs at a time and do them well rather than doing them all and doing it poorly? Just be patient ffs
@@LordHypnos4 every class has gotten reworked 1-3 times except sham just look at facts ffs
@@farmerjoseph8683 haven't touched Hunter, rogue, demon hunter, or priest literally all you've got to do is wait. This is exactly what iteration looks like, more than one change over the course of a few weeks to get feedback and react to it through an alpha and beta process that is going to last a number of months why don't you look at the facts and be patient ffs
@@farmerjoseph8683 that's how iteration works they make changes get feedback then make changes again based on that feedback. It's a few weeks dedicated to each class in an alpha beta process that will last months literally all you have to do is wait and then provide that feedback when they get to your class. Shaman is also not the only one they haven't touched
wow insane QoL changes for Destro all across the board, and then some.
Finally they might actually cast soul fire xd
@@javelinmaster2 Looking at the new talents the 80% cast reduc proc seems awesome but the other talents seem better so idk if you'll take it. maybe.
@@Nemenon Yh it kinda goes "Shadowburn didn't kill you after 2 casts? then Soulfire will!"
it's like having a execute after an execute
Hunter changes are coming guys, they're going to announce it soon. Let's be optimistic here. They've read the feedback on the forums, and i'm sure their working on it.
Sanguine strat seems like it is a version of deeper start thats on the ROGUE tree and replaces venom rush to be on the ASSA tree. I dont use deeper strat b/c I wont be able to get thisyle tea so this allows me to get the benefit of deeper strat on the assa tree.
Those five frost dks and enhs patiently waiting
Uh didn't frost DKs just get a bunch of changes recently?
@@jrizzle555yes they did. Shaman and hunters apparently are being removed from the game
Is the Hunter Dev still employed? When will they hire one?
Yeah that one was in the layoffs
Got layed off together with the Feral Druid.
Nerf Melle/ranged yes ! But Nerf the mobility too …
no shaman? lol
Blizz forgot about us it seems
LOOOL not a chance brethren
kek shamans will be benched
Gimme the warlock review, lets go
It seem like they forgot that doombust exists or we're just gonna apoc every global in pvp
Ty for the update!!
Just fyi its pronounced ret-tickle ❤️
I care a lot about animations / spell visuals.
Decimating Bolt spell visual was beautiful.
Wildfire for Fire Mages was really fun to see.
I hate it when they do this.
Making it fun is more important than making it look good and they can always tweak visuals. They still aren't done with all the new hero talent visuals
@@LordHypnos4
I agree fun is more important than visuals overall but I doubt they’re going to use Decimating Bolt’s visual for anything else.
Just make the spell more fitting to the playstyle and make it a choice and there’s no reason to remove it.
I don’t get Wildfire removal either it had a neat little animation and I can’t recall negative feedback about it anywhere I have seen
Year 2 and a new expansion of enhance saying "can we please get shamanistic rage back?" And blizz going "nah."
I wouldn't worry about the skill ceiling, especially with a spec like Arcane which was already needlessly complicated.
There's a reason PvE had so many rotation botters banned this year and it's because for many specs with the abundance of procs and variable gameplay, that it's very difficult for a human being to keep up with what's going on. The fact that so many people need to pay for a service to keep up with their rotations speaks volumes.
You just need to get good or quit the game
@@ScottJenkins-dt2jw yep, sure. That's all it is. Why not have 30 button rotations then? The more, the better!
Anti-Magic class gets anti-magic abilities, incoming outrage. Btw, every class can wipe negative effects if you just roll a dwarf
as usual enh left behind
Blizzard do whatever they want and don't listen to what the players want. This is the problem.
what if they increase the power of the evoker when there is no defense, and the range is still 25 yards. Stupid Hunter not only has a lot more mobility, not only does it have stealth, but it also shoots from 40 yards. How is this balanced against Evoker? All casters without exception have a 40-yard range, only the evoker has 25.
Which makes us extremely easy prey of all classes.
This needs to change.
When shaman rework?!
So destro lock will always break all the cc in the arena
Well, im going DK
For Mistweaver, I dislike Chi Harmony. It doesn't flow well with the Caster MW playstyle, since it requires you to interrupt Soothing Mist to refresh the buff all the time.
I think they are slowing throwing ranged mw in the trash so no more 2 healing specs
@@yashuastryfe125 I'll legit unsub if they do that though.
Link for these changes?
*sad hunter noises*
so this is why we get no balance updates for the patches we are currently playing. LOL
Damn man, at this point they may as well make hunter an archived class or something, they bascially had the exact same mechanics and abilities since like WotLK or some shit. They are in a BAD state and is the class in the most dire need a of a PROPER rework, yet they will stay the way they are until the servers are shut down for the game it seems.
Hunters weren't even on the focus system in wotlk
Cause no one cares about hunters lol. Get good man
Does anyone notice shaman gets no love? like the class has been the same with little to no changes since vanilla. why ?
When will pre patch drop???
guys relax they cant buff/redesign every class in every patch. we still have some time before war within actually releases, just trust and give it some time and we'll see changes across the board.
nothing for arms warrior :(
Enhancement shaman is complete dogshit in retail and has been forever. Its amazing in SOD and everyone plays it. DH, Rogue, Ret, Warrior have had multiple reworks and enhancement is just dogshit F tier for years.
Seems like PVP community doesnt care, bcs nothings gonna change.. Same sht over and over.
increase mobility means nothing when you 100% always snared, stunned, feared and rioted
Lol who couldnt spend the runic power???? 😂😂😂😂
Well it was more a case of would instead of could.
WHERE THE F$#K ARE THE HUNTER UPDATES!!!!!!!!!!!
They abandoned the class...
I dont want change for warrior talents just dont fuck up rage management new talent changes for warrior are suck
TIL supa pronounces it "reticulul"
will not buy ww cause dh still god s+ (more then 1 year straight) , when mages and etc being useles
More mage lmao what a joke
Warlock massively underplayed right now in current wow. Massively underrepresented in PVP. See warlock press your buttons bam it's dead. They gotta fix it badly.
This is a joke right? warlocks are tanky as fuck. im nothing special in pvp (1800-1900ish) but I see them all the time
Fix affliction allow dots to spread more easily. Survival for them is fine.
Warlocks are the instant targets.... good lucky pressing buttons.
@@Kanoogbrooooo I feel this so hard I'm trying to play demo and the whole BG jst runs at me everytime haha
2 melee is nightmare tam but i see warlocks
They made arcane boring :( rip
I was. The 1st again weee 🎉
What class are yall probably gonna main? I cant decide for myself
Mage 100%
Dk I think as well, purely because of combat horse
@@eugenesternin6039same hahahaha but now that i seen sinXsub talents, i think i will pick those 3!
mage in rated BG gonna be fking sick 😍
Destro feels so good to play in DF I love how they are spending time polishing a good spec when they haven’t even looked at some of the worst specs and classes in the game
Now they jjst need to fix hell caller and make it more firery
Don't hate, appreciate
wish they would just bring back the wod hunter dev this is not funny
ret pally mains waiting 10 years for mobility be like: 😐🔫
yeah no boubble exist
And… still the undisputed champion of the world for being the most ignored goes to Hunters 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
videos like these never age well by the time game release all this will be nothing but a forgotten thought lmao
i guess war within kinda dead already just gonna be a knock off dragonflight so why would player go for it ? they gonna wait mop and after that wow kinda in big problems 😢