“Don’t quit yet, the worst moments are usually followed by the most beautiful silver linings. You have to stay strong, remember to keep your head up and remain hopeful.” You doing great don’t quit.
There was a discussion on tik tok about how caribean med schools are just as good as us MD schools and I pointed out that one would have a hard time matching into residency if they go that route. Lo and behold I got called an elitist
Worst advice: 1) Sacrifice wellbeing for grades. 2) Only care about hours for doing activities. 3) Doing activities that would "look good" rather than following interests. 4) Memorize, memorize, and memorize... Everything memorize. Keep adding more to this thread if you guys want.
@@TheExclusiveB13 That was a little rude honestly. I understand your frustration and I agree with facts but we don’t know for sure. It is not her fault that the system is this way.She might have been an amazing student and we can’t look down on her without knowing the facts. One things stand is that she has absolutely no say on what residencies choose so please don’t point fingers.
@@TheExclusiveB13 this is most stupidest comment I’ve read. You do realize that derm is one of these harder specialties to get into. Don’t project your lack of success on others . Just looking for an excuse as to why you’re a failure
There's nothing offensive about saying that getting into DO is less academically demanding than a US MD (relatively speaking, I think overall it still is objectively challenging to get into a DO these days and students who do should be proud). Thanks for not mincing words and telling it how it is Kevin
The gap is closing but yes it is still slightly easier to get into a DO school. However, with quality of education being essentially identical between the 2 types of schools, I think it’s a great option and one that sadly I think is overlooked by many hellbent on becoming an MD
It's funny because I was having a conversation with someone who told me Physician's Assistants should be paid equally to Doctors and specialized ones too because they can practice by themselves. I didn't want to break it to them that PAs can't even be full primary care providers much less practice at the level of doctors and specialized ones too, because they would probably have been offended.
If PAs demand to be paid equally then the relevance of PAs is done for Admin would choose MD/DO any day over a NP or PA if the pay is equal Wouldn’t you hire a professor to teach you instead of an assistant professor if they cost the same
Can you make a “so you want to be an oncologist”? And if you can please explain the difference between radiation oncology, medical oncology and hematology/oncology
Heme onc (HO) is a fellowship after internal medicine residency. Med onc and HO are the same. While there are some onc only fellowships, the majority are combined. They focus on benign heme, leukemia/lymphoma, and all sorts of solid tumors that requires systemic therapy. In the modern day, these can be hormone therapy, chemotherapy or immunotherapy. Some tumors requires radiation. These are treated by radiation oncologists. They do a prelim year usually in internal medicine, then a residency in rad onc. They work with physicists to create a radiation plan (how many grays for how long over how many courses). While both are are very research heavy, arguably rad onc is even more research focused because it’s a newer field. In terms of competitiveness, rad onc is much harder because there are few spots. They are much more specialized therefore defer medical management outside of radiation. Besides knowing systemic therapies, HO can also manage other medical problems like an internist (because they are one). So if you like to spending your time doing research and focus on one thing, go with rad onc. Perhaps get a degree in math/physics and apply to md PhD. If you like patient care and wouldn’t mind some research on the side, keep doing what you are doing, get into med school (hardest part), get into IM residency with an cancer center (easiest part), publish maybe 2-3 papers and a few posters over the two years while in IM (not that bad if you are focused), and apply for fellowship. It’s longer but necessary.
@@healer_9677 of course! Another thing to note, for rad onc, there are about 200 spots coming out of medical school. The match rate is surprisingly 88% for 2020. But I think people only apply if they feel like they stands good chance of matching. Vs 9000 spots to internal medicine then 600 spots offered for HO. But since not every IM is applying to HO the match percentage is actually about 70%. If you are seriously about it, you’ll match.
Now the racists are coming out in the comments because he said “stop being politically correct”. That’s not what he meant. Keep your negativity to yourselves.
@@doge8726 Racism is very bad under certain contexts. Just because he mentioned resolving yourself of biases when applying doesn’t take away the fact that there are biases outside of the applications cycle.
He used the term political correctness because he knew it would please that exact crowd. Being anti SJW on your platform is actually not controversial at all and is very popular, people just like to pretend it is so they can victimise themselves and feel better about themselves not being “woke”, and thinking they are a paragon for free speech. When in reality nothing in the vid he said was controversial.
Quick follow up questions to the whole DO vs MD likelihood of matching to competitive residencies...(not offended by the point, just want to promote discussion and thought) 1. Is it wise to limit one's med school choices by desired specialty? Pre meds have little to no clue what specialty will actually be enjoyable and rewarding to them, because they don't have the necessary clinical exposure that we'd see in our M4 years. 2. Is this difference based on the politics between MD and DO residencies, or is it because DO are less qualified for those residency positions? Most DO students elect to take the USMLE and COMLEX for Step/Level 1 together, but idk what the statistics are regarding those scores. 3. For those DO that did match into competitive residencies, what was their average USMLE score and how did it compare to the average score for MD counterparts?
1. No it’s not. Is it going to be hard to go into neurosurgery as a DO? Yes. It’s also hard for MD students to match into as well. It may be easier, but nonetheless, you have to work hard for it. It’s a slippery slope to consider which school to apply to and attend based on specialty choice. You could argue this until you argue “Yale or Harvard?” You should consider strength or clinical rotations and if the school has a good relationship with hospital systems. A DO school that has a home base at a top hospital system in a given state may be better than a brand new MD school that sends students across the state for rotations. Lastly, your placement in a given residency largely depends on how well YOU perform in med school. Will you have to work harder and apply to more schools as a DO, compared to an MD counterpart? Most likely. 2. The DO and MD residencies merged last year. So now every MD and DO student applies to every residency program in the US. DO students just have to take COMLEX because of politics essentially. It’s about separating DO students apart from MD students. 3. You’ll have to look at NRMP data they collect every year that answers your question on this. There’s too many residencies to answer that in one comment. But they have that data which looks at MD, DO, and IMG students on match rates
Political correctness and ignoring facts aren’t synonymous. This video comes off a bit winey and immature in my opinion (not saying that the facts are untrue, but usually your videos aren’t presented in such a passive aggressive way).
It is also important to note that these things are subject to change. Residencies are merging for MD and DO and the average MCAT and GPA in DO schools are rising everyday.
I'm not even done with high school but ....I'm going to remember these🙂...thank you Sir Btw ... respectfully I'm scared😂... But there's this quote that says "If your dreams don't scare you, they're not big enough"😊
Thank GOODNESS you left medicine Dr. Jabbal. I am so happy you transition into 100% business. I guarantee you if you were practicing right now, these people would try to report your videos on mid levels to your hospital and try to revoke your license. Thank you for stepping out of medicine. You have freedom to express your views without people threatening your license and job:)
While it’s easier to get into an osteopathic school than an allopathic school, that’s quickly changing as getting into an osteopathic school is becoming increasingly competitive since the merger has all but killed Caribbean allopathic schools. Furthermore, DOs take the same board exams (Step) and do the same residencies as their MD counterparts. I won’t deny that high level programs (plastic surgery) still have preferences for MDs over DOs, though. It is what it is. :-/
@@MedSchoolInsiders My understanding is that DO schools provide education and training that does not prepare students for the standardized tests as well as MD programs do. The difference in matching into high-level residencies might not be the result of a preference for MD over DO, but an overall difference in test scores. But I'm not sure, you should correct me if you think that's wrong.
@@kmp8563 maybe not 10 years ago, but today, in 2021, it’s all about teaching for the test, and that goes for MD and DO. It’s part of the reason why Step 1 went pass/fail, too much emphasis in curricula in teaching for the test, and not enough on creating well rounded doctors. But all that aside, the training is the same. It’s just that programs run by program directors that are MDs will usually have a preference for MDs, because of many reasons, but mostly because that’s what they know and that’s the system they were educated in. I don’t blame them. It is what it is. But as I said, if you peeked into a DO class today, it would be virtually identical to the MD curriculum, save for the extra class in OMM.
I don't think the only purpose of the MCAT and GPA is to show if applicants can handle the med school curriculum. Otherwise, the grades and scores wouldn't be going up every year.
I too fell for Pre-Med preparation cuz of my parents cuz my grades before Pre-Med were very good. But now I regret that cuz it wasted my precious 5 years & I wasn't at all interested in it. Then prepared for being in army & now I'm a part of it.
As a patient this kind of doctor scares the sh# out of me. Not just the medical people who misrepresent themselves. It's the one in this video, who uses waaay too much right wing verbage to make his point. Don't get me wrong, I believe he would "do no harm" while practicing in his profession. (at least I like to believe that) it's when he uses terms like "Woke" , "Super woke" "Morally Superior"... like that's a bad thing, to me that's a red flag. I value and respect those who have committed so much time in their chosen field but Only in their field, everything else you're just regular. The way this doctor has inserted right-wing wordiness into his very valid experience IS a form of misrepresentation. And that's the very thing he correctly says is wrong! Personally I have no doubt he and other doctors like him, will commit to do harm someone everywhere by not valuing or respecting the experience of others.
Dr Jubbal, a private business owner and entrepreneur making the comedic focus of his video an anti-woke slant. When can I expect to see your PragerU guest appearance?
Would really appreciate if you'd do another video about military doctors, cuttently enlisted and going to school online hoping to become an army doctor but 99% of the videos and info out there are all from the perspective of civilians
Can you make a video on how to get into MD/ PHD programs and also an exploration of the careers of clinical researchers who are physicians? There are not a lot of resources about this and I think it would be something which would be helpful. 😃
What is the difference between MD and DO? I just know about MD and not DO. If I were to pursue as an osteo/cardio surgeon in the future, what should I take?
They are both physicians. If you take the pre-med courses and the MCAT, then you can look at how competitive you are for MD or DO schools. Let's just say that as an MD becoming an orthopedic surgeon or cardiothoracic surgeon is very hard and as a DO is very very hard. Before worrying about whether a DO degree will limit you, I would figure out if the route to becoming a doctor is something you want to pursue, and you should consider if you're aren't able to make it in one of those more competitive specialties if you would still be happy as a doctor. The lifestyle isn't for everyone.
Hey my 2 cents here ! Nobody will see your soft component without you FIRST getting that initial CUT OFF NUMBER ! They will get 2000 applications and they need a way to cut that down and that is a number. Everyone stay safe ! Study hard get that # so they can open your application and see how amazing and unique you are ! ;)
@@claireworld_ yeah, it's definitely upsetting that Asians face that type of discrimination when applying. Decisions should be based solely on meri, and the race question shouldn't even be asked.
My fellow Pre-Med friend wants to be a cardio thoracic surgeon, and he’s going the DO route. When I told him he would have a better chance if he went MD he started yelling at me saying I don’t know what I’m talking about haha. He then said his advisor said it didn’t matter and I didn’t know what I was talking about😂 this is why I started my own RUclips channel so I can hopefully help other premeds not make the same mistake
Every time he talks about med school insiders I get exited, then I remember is thousands of dollars and I’m broke and I remember why I decided to just keep watching the videos
I hate the term pre med. You are not pre med by simply working on a degree with a pre med track in my opinion. I am on the pre med track and I do not call myself pre med. when I pass the MCAT and send in applications then I will call myself that.
What do you think about the possibility of NPs being able to practice (completely) independently after 2-5 years of direct clinical experience under physician guidance? Depending also on the area of specialization. After all it is actually often needed because NPs can't necessarily treat complex conditions right after graduation. I'm not entirely sure about the comparison of the flight attendant and the pilot, since when I used to be a nurse in the ICU, it was expected of me and the other nurses to discuss cases with the physicians on an advance clinical level. For eg. I had a patient with endocarditis, and it was I who first suggested that it was the cause of my patients LOC due to a septic emboli, and furthermore that it was a fungal infection and not a bacterium because the antibiotics were not responsive and nothing was growing on cultures. I was nurse and not a physician, but my input was super valuable to the physicians and ultimately saved our patient. It was not an isolated case, it also happened with a patient who had a fever of unknown origins and another obese patient with a dislocated shoulder etc.
Much in this video is true, but I'm not sure how it applies to "wokeness" which seems to be a recurring theme in recent videos. Political correctness has more to do with identity politics, like race/ethnicity/gender etc. Whether you're an MD, DO, NP, RN etc as an isolated variable has little impact on your privileges in society apart from maybe socioeconomic status and certain accesses. A PA from a rich white family can be more "privileged" than an MD from a poor brown family. So, yes people are always gonna get offended over dumb shit, but I don't think it should be conflated with calling out actual social/political justice issues.
He used the term political correctness because he knew it would please a certain crowd and gain their approval. Being anti SJW on your platform is actually not controversial at all and is very popular (I believe it’s actually called “based” now), people just like to pretend its controversial so they can victimise themselves and feel better about themselves not being “woke”, and thinking they are a paragon for free speech. When in reality nothing in the vid he said was controversial.
That speaks to your own biases as well. Much like nurses and doctors are both integral to the health and safety of patients, pilots and flight attendants are also crucial to flight safety. Flight attendants aren't just there to push a cart and give you pretzels. They maintain the safety of the flight and undergo extensive safety training to handle normal safety operations and handle various emergency situations. They undergo training in leadership, fire suppression, and know how to evacuate an aircraft in less than a minute.
Yeah sure, I understand that. There's just something about it that *sounds* incredibly egotistical, particularly when the accompanying graphic was in fact a woman pushing a cart handing out pretzels. The whole thing doesn't do justice to the variety of roles and practice contexts that RNs can adopt. I regularly advise med school hopefuls to consider nursing if they're really interested in health, particularly if they're unlikely to get a med school spot or I think they'll struggle when they do get in. In my field (I'm a rural/remote medicine and ED trainee) RNs are almost universally extremely competent and independent with a scope that significantly overlaps that of doctors.
@@gplifeau oh my god. Stop trying to nitpick. It’s an example and he’s using cartoons. You are just trying to distract from the main point. It doesn’t not overlap. They are just being overconfident. I bet try asking them why they are doing a particular test-they won’t know why. They just know it’s what the doc ordered for 20 years. That’s the issue.
@@sara215 you're right, I'm nitpicking, but it's in service of my bigger problem with the vid. I think my main concern is the outright dismissal of alternative career paths without accepting that they're a good option for some people. A DO is clearly not appropriate for prospective neurosurgeons, but many people go into med school knowing they want to be a family physician and a DO is fine for that. An RN may help you kick similar goals with fewer hurdles and a quicker start to your career. It's just not good career advice to force people down a single track without considering other options.
I know this video os going to make some super woke people really hurt. But Dr Juval here is speaking nothing but truth. Can’t emphasize enough how important real statistics are over anecdotal experiences.
You do realize that you’re flexing on your “wokeness” by being woke about the wokeness trend, right? I’ve noticed you’ve been bringing it up a lot and it’s getting kind of repetitive. You’re giving off a very arrogant character, especially ever since you left plastic surgery, and it’s not a good look. Might want to evaluate it and humble yourself a bit as you try to become the next millionaire/billionaire you clearly aspire to be. Just thought I’d speak up on it. Otherwise, great video!
Wokeness in this day and age is a joke, and I’d say dangerous even but I dont think ppl are ready for that conversation. Ppl try to signal « woke » thoughts to appear morally superior when in actuality a lot of these ideas are very poorly explored and rely heavily on bullying/mischaracterizing and critics/opposing POVs. So, I for one welcome the jabs to wokeness :)
@@darkhawk12 Ok then what? Does it really bother people that much? If you know someone is virtue signaling for the sake of virtue signaling then ignore them. Wtf is dangerous about it anyways.
Not even talking about virtue signallers. They’re annoying for sure but more importantly a lot of current woke ideas are just bad, to put it simply. And if you try to argue against them in good faith, you’ll automatically get mischaracterized because they’re in the center of current public moral hierarchy. For instance, « cultural safety » training in canadian residency programs teach that you can be racist against POC, but not against white people. Aside from being nonsensical and dumb, goodluck even debating against this type of thinking without being chracterized as someone who wants to hold up white supremacy or something.
Your comment is downvoted to the bottom lol, definitely touched a nerve. Seems people getting offended isn’t bad when it’s the not the based department being snowflakes.
The part about MDs vs. DOs isn't really considering that things are changing every year. Not everything is about percentages and more challenging doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. If we play a part in stigmatizing DOs by avoiding DO school, they will never be socially accepted like MDs. This is coming from someone who didn't even apply DO.
Point taken, but I'd rather have a CRNA performing my anesthesia than an anesthesiologist because CRNA'S perform about 80% of anesthetics while anesthesiologists spend most of their time doing pre-ops, post-ops, and trading stocks. I've been a practicing CRNA for over 20 years and clearly have better technical skills than a substantial portion of MDA's. I'm not anti MD (my son is in medical school and I hope that he chooses anesthesia for his specialty). I'd also be the 1st to admit that a good MDA is probably better than a good CRNA, but I'd rather have a good CRNA than a mediocre MDA.
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There was a discussion on tik tok about how caribean med schools are just as good as us MD schools and I pointed out that one would have a hard time matching into residency if they go that route. Lo and behold I got called an elitist
Competence is maligned in our culture.
Tatiana Gonzalez exactly! Like I al not an elitist but guess who is? The people making the decisions on who gets the residency
On 2024 I think only accredited med schools will be able to apply for residency. I refer to de MD that graduates not on the US but on another country
P Gray its unfortunate that they will still have to pay all that debt for a less secure future
tiktok is filled with woke self righteous idiots, they will not get anywhere with an emotional rather than logical mindset to life.
Worst advice:
1) Sacrifice wellbeing for grades.
2) Only care about hours for doing activities.
3) Doing activities that would "look good" rather than following interests.
4) Memorize, memorize, and memorize... Everything memorize.
Keep adding more to this thread if you guys want.
Yup we sacrifice one thing to achieve one thing !!!
@@aha-death2282 I found out taking care of myself over studying jumped my grades! It was contradictory... But quite amusing at the same time!
@@nightshockplayz5894 I understood little bit
@@aha-death2282 You do better when you are happy, that is all it means 😁
Memorizing works for bio
I fell for "just pass medical college entrance exam and everything will get easy onwards".
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Laughs in step 1.
The worst advice I got was to look into another career. Weird because now I’m a derm resident !
Did you go to Howard or Meharry med school? cause all you have to do is be black and you can get in lmao
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@@TheExclusiveB13 That was a little rude honestly. I understand your frustration and I agree with facts but we don’t know for sure. It is not her fault that the system is this way.She might have been an amazing student and we can’t look down on her without knowing the facts.
One things stand is that she has absolutely no say on what residencies choose so please don’t point fingers.
@@claireworld_ I agree!
@@TheExclusiveB13 this is most stupidest comment I’ve read. You do realize that derm is one of these harder specialties to get into. Don’t project your lack of success on others . Just looking for an excuse as to why you’re a failure
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Thank you for mentioning the East/south Asian thing about how they need higher stats 😔
That’s just racism plain and simple
There's nothing offensive about saying that getting into DO is less academically demanding than a US MD (relatively speaking, I think overall it still is objectively challenging to get into a DO these days and students who do should be proud). Thanks for not mincing words and telling it how it is Kevin
The gap is closing but yes it is still slightly easier to get into a DO school. However, with quality of education being essentially identical between the 2 types of schools, I think it’s a great option and one that sadly I think is overlooked by many hellbent on becoming an MD
@@Silentstorm174 it’s not slightly easier it’s WAYYYYYY easier 😂
It's wild to me because I did not choose DO because it was easier, I like them because I identify with their mission.
@@Silentstorm174 it depends what exactly you want to do. Difference between family medicine and a neurosurgeon
@@marissawilson4644 same
I appreciate the jabs at people being offended too easily and using being offended as an excuse to ignore facts
It's funny because I was having a conversation with someone who told me Physician's Assistants should be paid equally to Doctors and specialized ones too because they can practice by themselves. I didn't want to break it to them that PAs can't even be full primary care providers much less practice at the level of doctors and specialized ones too, because they would probably have been offended.
Sad isn’t it? I’m studying to be a PA right now and know full well I’ll never have the expertise of an MD/DO.
And to be clear I’m not complaining, just saying that as a potential mid-level I’m aware of the PA/MD difference.
I know a few PA’s who think they’ll be able to open their own practices soon because they’re starting to get “more autonomy” …. Oh ok
If PAs demand to be paid equally then the relevance of PAs is done for
Admin would choose MD/DO any day over a NP or PA if the pay is equal
Wouldn’t you hire a professor to teach you instead of an assistant professor if they cost the same
@@avichal6630 Well said. This should be a highlighted comment.
Can you make a “so you want to be an oncologist”? And if you can please explain the difference between radiation oncology, medical oncology and hematology/oncology
Heme onc (HO) is a fellowship after internal medicine residency. Med onc and HO are the same. While there are some onc only fellowships, the majority are combined. They focus on benign heme, leukemia/lymphoma, and all sorts of solid tumors that requires systemic therapy. In the modern day, these can be hormone therapy, chemotherapy or immunotherapy. Some tumors requires radiation. These are treated by radiation oncologists. They do a prelim year usually in internal medicine, then a residency in rad onc. They work with physicists to create a radiation plan (how many grays for how long over how many courses). While both are are very research heavy, arguably rad onc is even more research focused because it’s a newer field.
In terms of competitiveness, rad onc is much harder because there are few spots. They are much more specialized therefore defer medical management outside of radiation. Besides knowing systemic therapies, HO can also manage other medical problems like an internist (because they are one).
So if you like to spending your time doing research and focus on one thing, go with rad onc. Perhaps get a degree in math/physics and apply to md PhD. If you like patient care and wouldn’t mind some research on the side, keep doing what you are doing, get into med school (hardest part), get into IM residency with an cancer center (easiest part), publish maybe 2-3 papers and a few posters over the two years while in IM (not that bad if you are focused), and apply for fellowship. It’s longer but necessary.
zhongning chen Thanks. That was really helpful
@@healer_9677 of course! Another thing to note, for rad onc, there are about 200 spots coming out of medical school. The match rate is surprisingly 88% for 2020. But I think people only apply if they feel like they stands good chance of matching. Vs 9000 spots to internal medicine then 600 spots offered for HO. But since not every IM is applying to HO the match percentage is actually about 70%. If you are seriously about it, you’ll match.
Now the racists are coming out in the comments because he said “stop being politically correct”. That’s not what he meant. Keep your negativity to yourselves.
@@doge8726 Racism is very bad under certain contexts. Just because he mentioned resolving yourself of biases when applying doesn’t take away the fact that there are biases outside of the applications cycle.
This is why I'm allergic to the phrase. It always brings out the bigots.
@@doge8726 edgy
Opposing racial discrimination in the admission process such as affirmative action here is good
He used the term political correctness because he knew it would please that exact crowd. Being anti SJW on your platform is actually not controversial at all and is very popular, people just like to pretend it is so they can victimise themselves and feel better about themselves not being “woke”, and thinking they are a paragon for free speech. When in reality nothing in the vid he said was controversial.
Thank you Dr. Jubbal for mentioning how it is harder for Asians to enter med school and keeping it real
Quick follow up questions to the whole DO vs MD likelihood of matching to competitive residencies...(not offended by the point, just want to promote discussion and thought)
1. Is it wise to limit one's med school choices by desired specialty? Pre meds have little to no clue what specialty will actually be enjoyable and rewarding to them, because they don't have the necessary clinical exposure that we'd see in our M4 years.
2. Is this difference based on the politics between MD and DO residencies, or is it because DO are less qualified for those residency positions? Most DO students elect to take the USMLE and COMLEX for Step/Level 1 together, but idk what the statistics are regarding those scores.
3. For those DO that did match into competitive residencies, what was their average USMLE score and how did it compare to the average score for MD counterparts?
1. No it’s not. Is it going to be hard to go into neurosurgery as a DO? Yes. It’s also hard for MD students to match into as well. It may be easier, but nonetheless, you have to work hard for it. It’s a slippery slope to consider which school to apply to and attend based on specialty choice. You could argue this until you argue “Yale or Harvard?” You should consider strength or clinical rotations and if the school has a good relationship with hospital systems. A DO school that has a home base at a top hospital system in a given state may be better than a brand new MD school that sends students across the state for rotations. Lastly, your placement in a given residency largely depends on how well YOU perform in med school. Will you have to work harder and apply to more schools as a DO, compared to an MD counterpart? Most likely.
2. The DO and MD residencies merged last year. So now every MD and DO student applies to every residency program in the US. DO students just have to take COMLEX because of politics essentially. It’s about separating DO students apart from MD students.
3. You’ll have to look at NRMP data they collect every year that answers your question on this. There’s too many residencies to answer that in one comment. But they have that data which looks at MD, DO, and IMG students on match rates
Thank you Dr. J for emphasizing soft components. They're hard to get right, and more important than people think.
A voice of reason and honesty. Medical trainees are fortunate to have you as a resource, Kevin.
Political correctness and ignoring facts aren’t synonymous. This video comes off a bit winey and immature in my opinion (not saying that the facts are untrue, but usually your videos aren’t presented in such a passive aggressive way).
Kevin thank you for doing all these videos on this channel and your other channel! They are so helpful! Keep up the great work! Currently a premed!
It is also important to note that these things are subject to change. Residencies are merging for MD and DO and the average MCAT and GPA in DO schools are rising everyday.
I'm not even interested in getting into doctorology, and only come for the rocket surgery, and brain science, information.
I'm speaking for everyone we need " so you want to be an oncologist " please
Yes!
YESS
thank you for including the segment about choosing political correctness over truth. that’s something a lot of people weren’t/aren’t ready to hear.
I'm not even done with high school but ....I'm going to remember these🙂...thank you Sir
Btw ... respectfully I'm scared😂...
But there's this quote that says
"If your dreams don't scare you, they're not big enough"😊
eyo I aint even in highschool
@@jessicao5766 I feel you girl.....but let's keep pushing till we make it✨
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@@jjunjl2049 aww :)...thank you🥺 so are you😊
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Thank GOODNESS you left medicine Dr. Jabbal. I am so happy you transition into 100% business. I guarantee you if you were practicing right now, these people would try to report your videos on mid levels to your hospital and try to revoke your license. Thank you for stepping out of medicine. You have freedom to express your views without people threatening your license and job:)
While it’s easier to get into an osteopathic school than an allopathic school, that’s quickly changing as getting into an osteopathic school is becoming increasingly competitive since the merger has all but killed Caribbean allopathic schools. Furthermore, DOs take the same board exams (Step) and do the same residencies as their MD counterparts. I won’t deny that high level programs (plastic surgery) still have preferences for MDs over DOs, though. It is what it is. :-/
Osteopathic school is “increasingly competitive” compared to what it was before but still substantially less competitive than allopathic.
@@MedSchoolInsiders My understanding is that DO schools provide education and training that does not prepare students for the standardized tests as well as MD programs do. The difference in matching into high-level residencies might not be the result of a preference for MD over DO, but an overall difference in test scores.
But I'm not sure, you should correct me if you think that's wrong.
@@kmp8563 maybe not 10 years ago, but today, in 2021, it’s all about teaching for the test, and that goes for MD and DO. It’s part of the reason why Step 1 went pass/fail, too much emphasis in curricula in teaching for the test, and not enough on creating well rounded doctors. But all that aside, the training is the same. It’s just that programs run by program directors that are MDs will usually have a preference for MDs, because of many reasons, but mostly because that’s what they know and that’s the system they were educated in. I don’t blame them. It is what it is. But as I said, if you peeked into a DO class today, it would be virtually identical to the MD curriculum, save for the extra class in OMM.
I don't think the only purpose of the MCAT and GPA is to show if applicants can handle the med school curriculum. Otherwise, the grades and scores wouldn't be going up every year.
Competition
It goes up because more people apply with higher grades
Thank you for using your platform to discuss scope creep! It’s really great to see :)
I like how this guy speaks his mind and doesn't care about all the pc and wokeness bs out there.
Malayali?
I too fell for Pre-Med preparation cuz of my parents cuz my grades before Pre-Med were very good. But now I regret that cuz it wasted my precious 5 years & I wasn't at all interested in it. Then prepared for being in army & now I'm a part of it.
Please make a clip on mid-level encroachment (especially EM)
What I have been waiting for.
I always use my reference who is currently in med school for advice and then I come here to check it out and he’s spot on with the advice
As a patient this kind of doctor scares the sh# out of me.
Not just the medical people who misrepresent themselves.
It's the one in this video, who uses waaay too much right wing verbage to make his point.
Don't get me wrong, I believe he would "do no harm" while practicing in his profession. (at least I like to believe that) it's when he uses terms like
"Woke" , "Super woke"
"Morally Superior"... like that's a bad thing, to me that's a red flag.
I value and respect those who have committed so much time in their chosen field but Only in their field, everything else you're just regular.
The way this doctor has inserted right-wing wordiness into his very valid experience IS a form of misrepresentation.
And that's the very thing he correctly says is wrong!
Personally I have no doubt he and other doctors like him, will commit to do harm someone everywhere by not valuing or respecting the experience of others.
Dr Jubbal, a private business owner and entrepreneur making the comedic focus of his video an anti-woke slant. When can I expect to see your PragerU guest appearance?
9:15 was that a shot at Bemo😂
This video, unlike most others that I've watched from Med School Insiders, is really a promo for the company's services.
It’s funny that nearly every med school insiders video segues into an ad for their advising services
Would really appreciate if you'd do another video about military doctors, cuttently enlisted and going to school online hoping to become an army doctor but 99% of the videos and info out there are all from the perspective of civilians
Thank you for your service
Is Kevin Jubbal a conservative?
Probably. Blaming the “woke left” for people not understanding the hierarchy in healthcare is pretty disingenuous and makes a lot of assumptions.
Can you please do a video about becoming a dentist?
Nothing says "I'm trying to be objectively professional" like dunking on "woke millennials" for no other reason than to make attempts at jokes lmao
Can you make a video on how to get into MD/ PHD programs and also an exploration of the careers of clinical researchers who are physicians? There are not a lot of resources about this and I think it would be something which would be helpful. 😃
Can you do a Residency version of this?
I think this might be my new #1 favorite of your vids so far.
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*proceeds to grab popcorn again* :DD
Great video mate
Can you pls make video about physician/surgeon/medical scientist
Kevin jubbal always spits facts
Jubbal is straight up mowing down competition with this video and rightly so lmao
"Appreciating nuance" - otherwise known as spitting facts without giving a damn about what others think
I love your art! Is it vector?
Thank you for honesty.
The question I leave myself with this morning is…. Are Google Maps maps, or just an alternative version of reality?
Well, thank you, but what's good pre med advice then?
What he's hinting at is, you need to hand over your money to HIS company, THEN you'll get good advice.
What is scope creep?
Hi med school can you do a so you want to be a throat doctor I forgot what they are called😅😵
Otolaryngologists
@Jay Dalal thanks bwuv
Thank you SO MUCH for addressing the issue of political correctness
What is the difference between MD and DO? I just know about MD and not DO. If I were to pursue as an osteo/cardio surgeon in the future, what should I take?
They are both physicians. If you take the pre-med courses and the MCAT, then you can look at how competitive you are for MD or DO schools. Let's just say that as an MD becoming an orthopedic surgeon or cardiothoracic surgeon is very hard and as a DO is very very hard. Before worrying about whether a DO degree will limit you, I would figure out if the route to becoming a doctor is something you want to pursue, and you should consider if you're aren't able to make it in one of those more competitive specialties if you would still be happy as a doctor. The lifestyle isn't for everyone.
Hey my 2 cents here ! Nobody will see your soft component without you FIRST getting that initial CUT OFF NUMBER ! They will get 2000 applications and they need a way to cut that down and that is a number. Everyone stay safe ! Study hard get that # so they can open your application and see how amazing and unique you are ! ;)
I loved this video!
My dad is south Asian descent and my mother is caucasian....guess who is gonna play the Caucasian/biracial card???
You go for it!! I wish this wasn’t the case though. I feel bad for asians going through so much to get into med school
Don’t write white or asian just say “biracial”, let their own bias come into play and think of something even better! half black half white.
@@akutenshi6946 true
@@claireworld_ yeah, it's definitely upsetting that Asians face that type of discrimination when applying. Decisions should be based solely on meri, and the race question shouldn't even be asked.
Just commenting for the algorithm 💙❤️🧡
Do a video on couples matching, would really appreciated it bro!!!
My fellow Pre-Med friend wants to be a cardio thoracic surgeon, and he’s going the DO route. When I told him he would have a better chance if he went MD he started yelling at me saying I don’t know what I’m talking about haha. He then said his advisor said it didn’t matter and I didn’t know what I was talking about😂 this is why I started my own RUclips channel so I can hopefully help other premeds not make the same mistake
What is DO? What is MD? And what is the difference
Every time he talks about med school insiders I get exited, then I remember is thousands of dollars and I’m broke and I remember why I decided to just keep watching the videos
Shots fired! Shorts fired!. Dr. Kevin Jubbal from Med School Insiders has fired shots. This is not a drill. I repeat, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
I hate the term pre med. You are not pre med by simply working on a degree with a pre med track in my opinion. I am on the pre med track and I do not call myself pre med. when I pass the MCAT and send in applications then I will call myself that.
Please do nursing and CRNA I'm 50/50 nursing or engineering.
What do you think about the possibility of NPs being able to practice (completely) independently after 2-5 years of direct clinical experience under physician guidance? Depending also on the area of specialization. After all it is actually often needed because NPs can't necessarily treat complex conditions right after graduation. I'm not entirely sure about the comparison of the flight attendant and the pilot, since when I used to be a nurse in the ICU, it was expected of me and the other nurses to discuss cases with the physicians on an advance clinical level. For eg. I had a patient with endocarditis, and it was I who first suggested that it was the cause of my patients LOC due to a septic emboli, and furthermore that it was a fungal infection and not a bacterium because the antibiotics were not responsive and nothing was growing on cultures. I was nurse and not a physician, but my input was super valuable to the physicians and ultimately saved our patient. It was not an isolated case, it also happened with a patient who had a fever of unknown origins and another obese patient with a dislocated shoulder etc.
Love your channel to death, truly; did you seriously compare midlevels vs physicians to FLIGHT ATTENDANTS vs pilots though? Poor analogy lol.
Exactly. Flight attendants don't work directly with and observe pilots like midlevels do with physicians.
Based advice
Much in this video is true, but I'm not sure how it applies to "wokeness" which seems to be a recurring theme in recent videos. Political correctness has more to do with identity politics, like race/ethnicity/gender etc. Whether you're an MD, DO, NP, RN etc as an isolated variable has little impact on your privileges in society apart from maybe socioeconomic status and certain accesses. A PA from a rich white family can be more "privileged" than an MD from a poor brown family. So, yes people are always gonna get offended over dumb shit, but I don't think it should be conflated with calling out actual social/political justice issues.
He used the term political correctness because he knew it would please a certain crowd and gain their approval. Being anti SJW on your platform is actually not controversial at all and is very popular (I believe it’s actually called “based” now), people just like to pretend its controversial so they can victimise themselves and feel better about themselves not being “woke”, and thinking they are a paragon for free speech. When in reality nothing in the vid he said was controversial.
Comparing nurse/doctor with flight attendant/pilot is incredibly cringe and very very on brand for a plastic surgeon
That speaks to your own biases as well. Much like nurses and doctors are both integral to the health and safety of patients, pilots and flight attendants are also crucial to flight safety. Flight attendants aren't just there to push a cart and give you pretzels. They maintain the safety of the flight and undergo extensive safety training to handle normal safety operations and handle various emergency situations. They undergo training in leadership, fire suppression, and know how to evacuate an aircraft in less than a minute.
It makes a lot of sense
Yeah sure, I understand that. There's just something about it that *sounds* incredibly egotistical, particularly when the accompanying graphic was in fact a woman pushing a cart handing out pretzels.
The whole thing doesn't do justice to the variety of roles and practice contexts that RNs can adopt. I regularly advise med school hopefuls to consider nursing if they're really interested in health, particularly if they're unlikely to get a med school spot or I think they'll struggle when they do get in. In my field (I'm a rural/remote medicine and ED trainee) RNs are almost universally extremely competent and independent with a scope that significantly overlaps that of doctors.
@@gplifeau oh my god. Stop trying to nitpick. It’s an example and he’s using cartoons. You are just trying to distract from the main point.
It doesn’t not overlap. They are just being overconfident. I bet try asking them why they are doing a particular test-they won’t know why. They just know it’s what the doc ordered for 20 years. That’s the issue.
@@sara215 you're right, I'm nitpicking, but it's in service of my bigger problem with the vid. I think my main concern is the outright dismissal of alternative career paths without accepting that they're a good option for some people. A DO is clearly not appropriate for prospective neurosurgeons, but many people go into med school knowing they want to be a family physician and a DO is fine for that. An RN may help you kick similar goals with fewer hurdles and a quicker start to your career. It's just not good career advice to force people down a single track without considering other options.
I know this video os going to make some super woke people really hurt. But Dr Juval here is speaking nothing but truth. Can’t emphasize enough how important real statistics are over anecdotal experiences.
You do realize that you’re flexing on your “wokeness” by being woke about the wokeness trend, right? I’ve noticed you’ve been bringing it up a lot and it’s getting kind of repetitive. You’re giving off a very arrogant character, especially ever since you left plastic surgery, and it’s not a good look. Might want to evaluate it and humble yourself a bit as you try to become the next millionaire/billionaire you clearly aspire to be. Just thought I’d speak up on it. Otherwise, great video!
Agreed.
Sounds like you're offended..
Good video but it could've gone without all the jabs at wokeness like ? Just focus on the med school stuff
Wokeness in this day and age is a joke, and I’d say dangerous even but I dont think ppl are ready for that conversation. Ppl try to signal « woke » thoughts to appear morally superior when in actuality a lot of these ideas are very poorly explored and rely heavily on bullying/mischaracterizing and critics/opposing POVs. So, I for one welcome the jabs to wokeness :)
@@darkhawk12 Ok then what? Does it really bother people that much? If you know someone is virtue signaling for the sake of virtue signaling then ignore them. Wtf is dangerous about it anyways.
Not even talking about virtue signallers. They’re annoying for sure but more importantly a lot of current woke ideas are just bad, to put it simply. And if you try to argue against them in good faith, you’ll automatically get mischaracterized because they’re in the center of current public moral hierarchy. For instance, « cultural safety » training in canadian residency programs teach that you can be racist against POC, but not against white people. Aside from being nonsensical and dumb, goodluck even debating against this type of thinking without being chracterized as someone who wants to hold up white supremacy or something.
"Medicine is the best"
The anti woke nonsense is almost as annoying as the obsessively pc nonsense 🤥
Your comment is downvoted to the bottom lol, definitely touched a nerve. Seems people getting offended isn’t bad when it’s the not the based department being snowflakes.
The part about MDs vs. DOs isn't really considering that things are changing every year. Not everything is about percentages and more challenging doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. If we play a part in stigmatizing DOs by avoiding DO school, they will never be socially accepted like MDs. This is coming from someone who didn't even apply DO.
My respect for Dr. Jubbal 📈
So You Want to Be a DENTIST?
lmao this video gonna have DO and pre meds punching the air lmaooooo they can't handle the truth
also the midlevels lol
Point taken, but I'd rather have a CRNA performing my anesthesia than an anesthesiologist because CRNA'S perform about 80% of anesthetics while anesthesiologists spend most of their time doing pre-ops, post-ops, and trading stocks. I've been a practicing CRNA for over 20 years and clearly have better technical skills than a substantial portion of MDA's. I'm not anti MD (my son is in medical school and I hope that he chooses anesthesia for his specialty). I'd also be the 1st to admit that a good MDA is probably better than a good CRNA, but I'd rather have a good CRNA than a mediocre MDA.
LoL 😎😎😎😎
Wow
Lol I like this video
What is woke?
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