Well, to be fair, take a random U.S. city with a population of around 500, chances are: "You've never heard of it." Especially after the sardine industry collapses, so given the fact that the island is practically hidden by the *A* on the map, it could just be the fact that nobody, expect extremely few people know about it. Which could also explain why there soo many cruise ships during their tourism thing, they wanted to move to a place nobody has heard of since the Sardine crazy.
Also I just looked at those "Cruise ships" Those are most deffinitly Cunard ships (the black hull paint is basically their signiture) Now the difference between a cruise ship and an ocean liner, is like airplanes, they take you from America to Europe, that's why they are sometimes called airliners, so given the fact that it is most likely Cunard that is running those ships, would mean that there is soo much population, that airplanes can not handle the volume, (the downfall of ocean liners was the 3 hour airplane trips) heck there are only 2 ocean liners making transatlantic service, so the fact that not only dose Cunard have not 2 but 4 ships, implies that the demand for ocean travel exploded, and Cunard prices are a couple thousands of dollars (I've checked their website personally to see if I could travel) so this means that they expected mass migration to Sardine Isle.
I lost him at the Barb being Flint's mother stuff and the coffee making humans want to crossbreed, but the idea of ANY living livestock being what he needs to fuel his food bars makes perfect sense. Everything else was spot-on, even Flint's mom being a business partner. A lot of the background references feel like they're subtly implying this. Maybe not the stuff with Flint's mom, but it's believable enough considering the rest of the proven theorizing.
@officialteamsombie honestly I though fran (flints mum) being barb was personally the most believable because of how she cares for Flint and how humanoid she looks and it had already been astablished that she has a human brain.
The theorizer would totally be the one to start wearing tinfoil hats, and at first everyone thinks he’s crazy but like after a week it turns out actually there were in fact space lasers that could mind control you and he was the only one who figured out the truth.
You summed his channel up so well, his theories usually sound odd and unbelievable at first but once you listen to it in full you can really see the analytical genius in it.
Fun fact: in the Hungarian dub, Chester V is called Chester Wayne. And another fact: also in the Hungarian dub barb doesn't call herself an ape.. she (and Chester in the commercial) calls herself an apewoman (it sounds logical in Hungarian) that very much supports this theory and could prove Chesters pure hatred towards flint's mother
You know the evidence must be sound when the thought train runs at full speed from "Why is the mayor so fat after one month?" to "Cloudy is a prequel to Soylent Green" and it all still makes sense.
@@MattStMarie-bm5sq Wild conspiracy theories and gaslighting aren't the same. Gaslighting is Person A telling Person B something that is very contradictory to what Person B believes they know to be true and then Person A proceeds to chip away at Person Bs intelligence and self-esteem until they decide that maybe they were wrong this whole time. There is a sense of power imbalance. A conspiracy theorist believes you to be close in intelligence to themselves only not as informed as they are on this particular issue. They will lay out all the information they have and hope you connect the dots as they have towards the same conclusion. Even if you end up not agreeing with them or their evidence, the journey is usually at least entertaining.
@@swerve7552 I think it is implied that it wasn't the first time Chester associated with a promising inventor with a brilliant idea only to steal it and screw them over
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"Psychopathic madman parading as Bill Nye the Science Guy" is one of the best sentences I've ever heard in my life. This theory is amazing and makes far too much sense.
@@blackagent4754 The best I can give you to go off of is that it appears to be a picture of Noodle of the band Gorillaz (or at least their animated depiction, in reality literally just like one guy and 3 other interchangeable members.) By the looks of it it's specifically her design from the Humanz era onward.
Could you maybe do a theory on Warhammer 40k? There is _so much lore_ it’d be like paradise for someone for you. Something like “are the Tyranids running from something?” Or something about the Astartes.
@@LordCrate-du8zmI don’t think he’ll listen. I once tried proposing a theory to him that the headspace scenes in TDAS with Mike and the others were filmed in post production after the show finished filming in order to fabricate an ending. But he never responded.
@@TheTheorizercould you perhaps do a theory on the Sony marvel universe. You have a gift of making mid and terrible films interesting and I’d love to see what you can come up with.
I know. It’s not just the sound, but the edited context. I do this very often in my videos, I’ve mastered that visceral sinking feeling. It’s very elusive, but I’ve nailed the psychology of it, sometimes my videos consist of dozens of those lmaoo
I kept thinking that the mayor either drowned after eating his boat or he transformed into a giant monster and once Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 was filmed, he then barged in and started eating the living food and the growing just goes on and on and on. If only they’d decided to do a 3rd cloudy with a chance of meatballs. Maybe that was why (in the plot) they didn’t. Because Mayor Shelbourne came back and literally ate everything.
During the credits of the first film, you can see that he survived and got arrested. I don’t know if this was confirmed by the creators, so make what you will of this.
you forgot the steps between straight to the mic and hitting record: repeating the script/outline/whatever multiple times getting more insane because he kept forgetting to actually hit record probably due to either the fever or the actual insanity that this theory isn't 100% bs and there is some plausibility to a lot of it
I don’t know if anyone also thinks this. One thing I always seem to strangely admire about the two CWACOM Movies, is how effectively creepy they make their main villains to be. The Mayor’s final huge change at the end was always enough for me to feel grossed out. I can’t explain how, but it it just becomes so uncanny. Disturbing even. Chester is an even more effective example. The way he moves, the hidden darkness behind the radiant positivity. Both movies have a unique touch to it. That’s all I can say.
Body horror has always freaked me out. Like foreign objects being swallowed or being force fed to where my gut feels like it's stretching and as a kid his characters defeat freaked me out so bad. Like in the end eating his own raft, uncontrollably so because it's insinuating he is gonna eat it until there is no boat and he will be uncontrollably chewing until he drowns
What if Flint's mom is Chester's daughter ? That would explain why Flint is so smart and why Flint resembles both his mom and Chester. Plus , Chester being Flint's grandfather would explain why he is also jealous of him . Not only did his grandson find a way to feed most , if not all the world's population with delicious food , but he also managed to do that in a very short timeframe compared to Chester . Basicaly , Chester is mad that his grandkid made a much better invention than him faster .
This would also explain why Chester daughter was so smart to becuase her father Chester is a genius as well so flint being this smart becuase of that actually makes sense
Wouldn't the ages not quite play out since Chester seems to be a similar age to Fran like I don't think he's more than 15 years older than her rember he looked a lot closer to Frans age when we see him on tv wich is the time where she would be alive maybe if he was as old as he is in the second movie in the flashback I would belive he was her farther. I personally think Fran cheated on Chester with Tim Lockwood. Also personally I think Flint is soo smart because of how his mother encouraged him to work hard and we see that he keeps thinking of different inventions and a lot of then fail more than they succeed he is just very stubborn.
There were a couple scenes where Chester very clearly one-ups and condescends to Flint, which I think is proof that Chester is clearly jealous that Flint was able to do something he couldn't. I mean, instead of just making his own Fldminstr, he resorted to stealing it, as if it was his only option.
You're like if MatPat started with Film Theory first instead of Game Theory, never hired people, and then actually went crazy, I love it! +1 Subscriber
@@dumbloafofbread No, not really. MatPat has a more surface level crazy that is more goofy and we can all relate with at times, The Theorizer seems to have a deeper crazy that isn't just a running gag and has been festering for longer, combined with doing way more objectively crazy theories for years. Matpat has alien dogs, The Theorizer has an entire series on how powerful and evil Mort (from the Madagascar movies and King Julian Netflix series) is, along with a series analyzing the characters from SpongeBob and theorizing Patrick Star is an evil mastermind. Again, no. MatPat and The Theorizer are on different levels of crazy.
A few small things I thought of 1. Chester very well could have lied around the un sending him And more importantly 2: sardines are apparently very nutrient dense, which would be an important factor in creating a food bar, which seems to be similar to a protein bar or some sort of meal replacement. Chester talks about wanting to change his recipes in the past to taste better (we see flavor crystals being added, and that this is the 8th version) so moving from a bad tasting, healthier sardine based food bar to a chemically better tasting varient I believe that swallow falls is a town owned completely by Chester, similar to fordlandia, as everyone there works in sardines, no other types of business seen. Another piece of evidence towards Chester controlling swallow falls, a reason for flints mom being in swallow falls, they could’ve been the manager of this sardine factory
I live in a rural island, a good part of our economy was the fishery. If you didn't fish you were part of the support of that sector. It's not unsurprising
Chester wanted to play God, he wanted complete dominion on what he thought was rightfully his, the sacred double helix. But he was also obsessed with the human mind, this is why he transferred Fran's brain into Barb and why he crossbreeds primates, for breeding ingenuity. And this explains why the monkey thought translator works on Tim. Chester knew that crossbreeding lead to increased ingenuity and wanted a protégé from Fran's brilliance due to her unified field theory and Tim's crossbred primate brain. Flint was the key for Chester's success of God domination. But ultimately Chester grew Envious and Wrathful of Flint's genius due to his narcissism and wanted to destroy him mentally and physically. Colombia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animation wrote a hell of a Villain.
If Chesters plans truly was to numb the minds of others for more control and to sell food bars, then he would of won having a machine that easily produces food and numbs their minds from it being mutated... So that cheeseburger eating him literaly saved the entire world. 😭
Very ironic because at first the Cheese Burger Spiders were beamed to be the most evil beings and attacking lady liberty. Yes, we do get a scene near the climax of the burgspider being a nice pet but still, it’s a spider.
@@Fancy_ManRoblox Chester being eaten by a primitive creature is quite a humiliating fate for some narcissistic mastermind like him. He could've gotten away whenever he wants but he just screwed everything up in the last second because of his either stupidity or arrogance or maybe both.
@@illegalisntlegal MatPat isn't even in the same league as the theorizer, dude is giving up and to start didn't even write his own theories, he needed a team of writers and thinkers to come up with their theories and most of the theories are click-baity in nature. The theorizer just comes up with anything and everything and can actually make you believe it.
@@galacticalove The mental gymnastics you must've done for that response to make sense in your head are probably on par with the mental gymnastics this dude did to make this video make sense to him.
I like how everyone made fun of flint for his inventions being wacky and having weird side effects, but his inventions being wacky and having weird side effects (the food coming alive) is what killed the main villian in the end.
@TheTheorizer no. The others just seemed a little more far-fetched, in my opinion. The DreamWorks conspiracy with talking animals and Mort was pretty good though.
Maybe that's why the machine was mean to flint in the first movie but nice to him in the second, Chester had some control over the machine, maybe that's also how it knew to give itself protection with living food and peanut butter even though no one's ever been up there, chester maybe was going to destroy the town with the giant food and take the machine for himself afterwards, but didn't know flint was going to go up there and blow it up, making him loose control and needing to take the machine manually.
Him having control also explains the weird ways the food was falling, like with the fortune cookie and the cherry causing the wall to break, ain't no way the food machine knew the exact weight to destroy that wall to finish with a cherry, that definitely sounds like Chester was trolling. 😂
Yeah true, it could also explain how the food animals in the second movie were able to specifically see chesters mearch, the food machine was like nah, that man caused me too much problems, if you see anyone with this mearch it's on site.
This is the very first video meant by this channel that I ever watched. Brilliant, and absolutely chilling how everything really does fit together, to some scary conclusions.
Theorizer: "This is where it goes dark!" Me: "I can handle this..." Theorizer: "Human animal hybrids!" Me: "I wasn't ready for this!" Theorizer: "The people are foodbars!" Me: "Okay, I can handle this again..."
this man could single handedly solve all of fnaf if you give him enough time tbh, it's amazing how far he can push even the smallest details into massive underlying elements within a movie's universe and then some
Chester V is an EXTREMELY realistic and relatable portrayal of a Narcissist parent aswell. That was a part of why I Loved the second movie. Because I had never seen such a good representation of a Narcissist who the main character GENUINELY loved and was seen as a wonderful person publicly before Completely stabbing Flint in the back and Showing his true colors, or lack there of. Hit very close to home.
I haven’t seen all of the show but I remember from one of the episodes I did watch, Sam literally turns into a living piece of bacon and the town residents go crazy trying to eat her alive. I’m not even kidding.
@@theemeraldking3251 There was also an episode where a panda came to the town zoo and Flint and Sam were able to successfully prove it was an alien brainwashing the citizens into doing something I think
@@thedopestshow5504 It's strange to think that if Matpat did his theories all by himself, he would be in the same position of the Theorizer for Sherlock Holmes esque insanity. Not that Matpat did any bad ones, I love a whole ton of them, but it's just in a different context.
Brother, the part about Barb's brain being the brain of Flint's dead mother legit made me cry... i cried for a good minute. What have you done?? ; - ; i *have to* rewatch this duology again, it was so good.
Quick note to support the cross breeding idea, in the spin off show their is this creature called lobster clause which is pretty much swallow falls version of Santa but is a humanoid lobster creature who gets eaten every Christmas, (Note, this is going of memory from over a year ago but still might be something to look into)
Why not use clones idea? Works perfectly for me to explain how spin-offs are canon and why they were kinda instinctively engineer things. It's generations of clones with written brain. SW is control group.
Remember in the Microwave studio when they said having the second movie start right after the end of the first makes it feel like a really long movie? This video basically rectifies that by making Chester look like an enormous overarching villian.
So you're telling me that Chester V wants to turn humanity into controllable and mindless furries, but also use them as livestock for foodbars? This truly is the Soylent Green prequel!!!!!
My kin-1st grade teacher Gave me the original paper back copy of this book when I left her class. It was always my fave at bedtime. Who knew nearly 25 years later I'm watching a cursed conspiracy video on the movie rendition of my childhood book. Love it.
I have a theory, I believe that Wonka is the same creature as marry poppins and IT. Wonka, in the new movie, he is shown prioritizing other people’s emotions, but only when he gains the opportunity to make them grow closer to him. He is shown to be wired on others whenever he causes on other person extreme emotions. If you look at the previous movies he chooses children as the people he interacts with. Why children, because they are the most influential and emotional people you could interact with. He is shown putting each child in an environment in which they are the most emotional. The overweight German boy caused him to create a world in which they could indulge in gluttony as much as possible. Which would cause an extreme reaction, emotions. He refused to intervene throughout the movie because the children’s emotions would keep developing and growing the longer he lets them indulge or react. Also he only acknowledged the children when it gave him the chance to bring out emotions from the children. In the second Charlie and the chocolate factory movie Wonka is shown being dispatched from reality. Almost if Earth meant nothing to him, this would further highlight his strange obsession with children. In the first Charlie and the chocolate factory movie he targets children’s imagination trying to bring out their emotions. There is always more, but I don’t have time to explain more.
The creature I am relating them all to is a type of alien that feeds off of human emotions and thoughts. Mary Poppins has shown to have “other worldly powers” and would only interact with humanity when she has the opportunity to receive energy from humans. She appeals to children, and their imagination. In fact she states that she only wishes to make people happy. She purposely targets people (mainly children) who are the most apt to follow and explore their imagination and emotions. Although my memory is a little fuzzy on her actions, if you look throughout her movies and book it suggests heavily that she is always trying to attain happiness (with a strong passion).
This is actually insane, you see in a previous theory you claim that Doris and Petunia have human brains inside them, fast forward today and we see you have found another instance of an animated movie with a character housing a Human brain from a missing mother figure.
Man. The good news we have by now is according to Phil Lord the one of directors of Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs said that there is now a script. According to him, it was waited to be greenlit and accepted yet. The title of the Potential 3rd movie is called "Planet Of The Grapes" this Potential sequel was on google since September 22 2023.
You get more and more unhinged as these videos get released it is both simultaniously terrifying and entertaining oh also concerning I love and fear every second
I want to know, why in the second movie, there are mainly fruit and vegetables that are alive. But we also see a giant cheeseburger and giant taco. Maybe, and stay with me here, the mayor mutated into the giant cheeseburger, he literally ate burgers earlier in the movie. And… “the cheeseburger are trying to swim, to attack lady liberty!” Is a quote in the movie. I always thought the mayor drowned, he mutated into a giant cheeseburger and finally ate Chester V. Oh my gosh, I’m mind blown
also, correct me if I'm wrong, there was only ONE cheesespider in the movie (until the ending where there were more being made). However, the only thing that breaks this theory is that the cheesepider was a female, and that the spider wasn't a threat, Live Corp was.
Don’t we see the mayor at the end of both movies though? At the end of the first movie, he ended up returning to his normal size and was arrested by Earl and at the end of the second movie, we see him sell hotdogs on the beach
@@generalcrab0009 That _really_ points to the food being the main reason for his form to swell so considerably. Without the mutant food constantly pumping whatever chemicals it contained into his body, it stopped affecting him and he returned to his normal self.
@@LordCrate-du8zm I never said the food didn’t cause him to swell up. I know it did. I was just saying to the original commenter that it’s impossible for the mayor to have mutated into the giant cheeseburger
Also, how is it that Flint and Chester both invented wedgie-proof pants "independantly" when they were similar ages... Flint when he was 6 and Chester when he was 3. Weird.
Also, rat birds. How are they alive? That comically small sardine in the giant fish bowl in the first movie seems to be sentient when it shouts for joy at perspective freedom, only to be snatched midair by a rat bird. They also stole a child in the background of one of the shots in the beginningish of the first movie. Also, those kids who were YEETED on the ice cream to oblivion, why does no one on the island seem to care?
23:44 As someone who has (Unfortunately) watched the show in its entirety, yes everything said here is true and so much more. The mayor can shoot lasers out of his eyes and he even has an actual son and dad of his own. Many of the episodes are just banter and barely relate to the main movie, let alone one or two episodes. Amazing yet INSANE theory as always Theorizer, cant wait to see what else youll cook up!
Dude, this is absolutely one of the best theories youve ever made. Its still insane to me that you can pull a whole conspiracy from a film that seems very surface level. This is like 10th time you've done that lol
If I had a nickel for everytime the Theorizer revealed that a character contained the consciousness of another character in them, I'd have three nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened more than once.
Direct quote from Soylent Green “They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food.” That is definitely the scenario here and super dark for a kids movie 😅
This was a dope and spot-on theory from The Theorizer. This same thing is allegedly happening today and since forever. They create the problem, the calamity, and the solution.
I thought he was going to say a part of Steve the Monkeys brain was his Father's. It could explain why he became more closed of to his son emotionally but still survives due to his brain still being in tact enough for basic function.
i chose the right time to open up youtube, huh. ngl, this theory has a lot of flaws (e.g. the power grid would have no logical influence on the FLDSMDFR becoming a rocket; earl probably did actually hate flint, but it was probably a "love-hate for the town goofball" kind of thing; the section on flint's mom is pure speculation and the liv corp logo looks absolutely nothing like the floral pattern on the mother's dress, the fact they're both orange is just a coincidence. actually the whole theory falls apart when you start with flint's mother, which is rare because usually when you cook you end up having high probability of being right but this time it was really erroneous aside from the basic concept.), but i believe the basic concept after seeing the food bar in flint's hands and hearing the quotes by chester v. i wouldn't be surprised if the second film ret-conned a few things to set that plotline up. after watching the video, i give this theory a 5/10. basic concept is probably true and is a really good theory, but it entirely falls apart after you start talking about flint's mom; there is basically no evidence supporting the theory by that point and its roots are all assumptions, anything drawn from those assumptions are purely coincidental. either way, it's nice to watch another theorizer video.
If Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and Wall-e weren't from different companies I would say that they are connected. Overpopulation, humans consumed as food, massive people.
i just wanted 2 point out that the fldsmdfr (The Food Machine) appears in the end battle in Into The Spiderverse, which was made by the same people. After seeing that i always theorised that Fisk got his dimensional travel technology, or at least part of it from fellow business mogul from across the country, Chester. Both owning massive technological cooperate conglomerations, it seems likely they would've traded technology or even collaborated with research. If u also take note in the second Cloudy while flint is working 4 Livecore he finally has access 2 labs and other equipment that rapidly increases his scientific development 2 the point where he is churning out 100's of ideas in just a six month span, most of which r successful (though not in his mind, due 2 the lack of acknowledgment from Chester), including prototypes for freeze rays, shrink rays, invisibility devices AND DIMENSIONAL PORTAL travel. Although initially only working with inanimate objects, he later tweaks it 4 sentient food in just a short amount of time, it could be easily assumed that it would only go on from there. The rest of his inventions Chester steals throughout the entire period and distorts them into weapons to sell, such as his Sentinels of Safety, which r riddled with Flint n his friends talents. Even though Flint can b clumsy n chaotic this mostly just goes 2 show how fast Flint can develop n adapt an idea, which could explain why the machine turned into a rocket since we know in a flashback he's been developing Flying Car technology which is near completed at that time since he can throw it together at the end of the film. Although naïve Flint is an incredible engineer, geneticist n programmer, (the AI he creates 4 the machine is obviously insanely advanced) he's 1 of my favourite characters of all time n it's kinda funny 2 think he set in motion everything that happened in the Spiderverse. i lub himb.
I actually have this even more insane theory about the food that develops on the island in the second film, specifically the berry population n it's social evolution, n how Chester's team on the island unknowing created one of their biggest downfalls. The berries n some of the other food r developed 2 the point of language and community interaction is a daily part of their life, so them evolving along side their dominate threat has created a society founded on a 2 sided war. Chester's team initially there 4 recovery with nothing much more than simple metal detectors, The Fldsmdfr immobile yet energised from the pool, with what little remains of it's initial protective troops, (the Flying Pizza, and the mobile Gummy Bears...Chicken...(which already in the first film the AI had evolved so much so that in just 1 month that it had already begun creating basic protective sentient living food)). Both sides with access 2 rapidly evolving technology Chester began retaliating the machines defences (Flint unknowing aiding in the attempted capture n destruction of his creations by inventing 4 Livecore) by sending numerous teams with increasing arms, with the machine drastically altering the environment and the weather (i have theorised that Flint has been working on other weather manipulation projects since accidentally launching the machine a. 2 try n maintain some control over his mistake b. 2 also impress his potential partner who is obsessed with weather. i can't vouch as 2 how successful he is as the evidence in the second film may just b a window mod not an actual weather mod.(although not entirely canon the end credits do show Sam n Flint manipulating weather in a lab which is something the did always talk about doing in film so it could b safe 2 assume that The Fldsmdfr AI would veer down that path quite easily)) while rapidly creating soldiers each generation more advanced than the last. So long and brutal has this war been that here have been dozens of human and food casualties, 24 battalions have been sent and lost n by the time Flint n his team arrive The Berries have evolved 2 the point of conducting out covert operations. Along with The Burger they demonstrate a number of tactical maneuvers and organise a number of highly advances scouting and attack missions. Berrie is a spy, not only that a high ranking 1, he knows 2 target the weaponised BSUSB n gain intel n retreat when he's overpowered, the rest is just in the film. ALSO the tomato is the MOST powerful being in that universe, i can elaborate but not here. it is all insane but it's fun c:
Need this guy to voice a video game character that’s a detective or something, who has an hour long monologue about the whole truth of the game that hits so hard it’s like a point-blank shotgun to the chest.
Wow, I REALLY misread the community post you made for when this would be uploaded... But, that's fine! I've been really excited for the conclusion in this video since you first posted about it, and I can't wait to hear what you've found. Update; I've finished the video, and it was incredible, as always. But I'm wondering, did you mean to imply the food has secondary addictive properties aside from being tastier than normal food?
He always has been, even though i do love MatPat too. I want my theories unhinged and insane, yet 100% plausable somehow. Theorizer never disappoints. 🤩
MatPat has become quite an internet meme for his... varying quality in theories. He's very casual about theories so as a result many of them can't hold up to theories from people like this. Or in other words, MatPat's good at entertainment, but few of his theories are actually plausible if one really thinks about it.
I really think it comes down to dedication here, because MatPat has come up with some really great theories over his time on RUclips but the quality between videos can be massively different because of how often he’s been uploading in recent years. Meanwhile The Theorizer takes his time with each one of videos to make sure the theory is as well fleshed out and believable as possible which is what we’re really all here for
I love how intense this video is. It’s literally a children’s movie and I feel like we’ve dissected a sociopathic piece of art.
That's how all his videos are, lmao
most childrens stories seem to be that way.
true crime without the issues
It's the drama for me!
That’s most Disney & or Pixar movies haha 😂
The reveal that the outside world is so incomprehensibly densely populated makes the "normal" setting in the first movie seem more eerie somehow
THAT is a good point
Perfect Warhammer prequel.
Well, to be fair, take a random U.S. city with a population of around 500, chances are: "You've never heard of it." Especially after the sardine industry collapses, so given the fact that the island is practically hidden by the *A* on the map, it could just be the fact that nobody, expect extremely few people know about it.
Which could also explain why there soo many cruise ships during their tourism thing, they wanted to move to a place nobody has heard of since the Sardine crazy.
Also I just looked at those "Cruise ships" Those are most deffinitly Cunard ships (the black hull paint is basically their signiture)
Now the difference between a cruise ship and an ocean liner, is like airplanes, they take you from America to Europe, that's why they are sometimes called airliners, so given the fact that it is most likely Cunard that is running those ships, would mean that there is soo much population, that airplanes can not handle the volume, (the downfall of ocean liners was the 3 hour airplane trips) heck there are only 2 ocean liners making transatlantic service, so the fact that not only dose Cunard have not 2 but 4 ships, implies that the demand for ocean travel exploded, and Cunard prices are a couple thousands of dollars (I've checked their website personally to see if I could travel) so this means that they expected mass migration to Sardine Isle.
holy crap.
Imagine if if Matpat, the theorizer and Alex Bale all teamed up to make the ultimate theory.
I’d die, it would be amazing
The Illuminati will be pissed
Can we get the Super Carlin Bros in on this?
the world would collapse in on itself
They could figure out the secrets of the universe together
this man sounds like if matpat finaly went fully insane from fnaf
An edgier Matpat 😂
He is
true...
WAIT...FULLY INSANE?!
Edit: Yass queen 40 likes!
Wow, this aged really well
@@antneziac why did he actually lose the plot
The writers: **put in some clever jokes and jabs at real life issues**
The Theorizer: *LORE*
i mean its hard to tell if its either lore or jokes
I lost him at the Barb being Flint's mother stuff and the coffee making humans want to crossbreed, but the idea of ANY living livestock being what he needs to fuel his food bars makes perfect sense. Everything else was spot-on, even Flint's mom being a business partner. A lot of the background references feel like they're subtly implying this. Maybe not the stuff with Flint's mom, but it's believable enough considering the rest of the proven theorizing.
@officialteamsombie honestly I though fran (flints mum) being barb was personally the most believable because of how she cares for Flint and how humanoid she looks and it had already been astablished that she has a human brain.
@@trixxart777 Actually, you're right dang. I forgot the human brain part was confirmed. That actually is interesting.
He is the next Matpat
the voice breaking makes it even betteer.
ALMOST AS IF HE DID IT ALL IN PURPOUSE
OH MY GOD!
😱
Wait a second.....
I love how Chester's whole plan backfires so stupidly that it's actually genius
It's always the little details that get them in the end.
@zombathinlostleghackercat5233
The writers.
He did all that planning and expiriments, just to die to the very thing he was trying to create.
@@ICupLol It's eat or be eaten, after all.
@@samweaver9109UNDERTALE REFERENCE??!??!! OMG
The theorizer would totally be the one to start wearing tinfoil hats, and at first everyone thinks he’s crazy but like after a week it turns out actually there were in fact space lasers that could mind control you and he was the only one who figured out the truth.
You summed his channel up so well, his theories usually sound odd and unbelievable at first but once you listen to it in full you can really see the analytical genius in it.
this is so cannon and accurate
Yeah, he does that. It's hard not to take him seriously after a while because he keeps being right.
Personally, I think it's sound waves, you know that ringing sound you randomly get in your head? That's data in the form of sound or something 😂😂😂
There are space lasers, but they don’t control you, only monitor you
Fun fact: in the Hungarian dub, Chester V is called Chester Wayne.
And another fact: also in the Hungarian dub barb doesn't call herself an ape.. she (and Chester in the commercial) calls herself an apewoman (it sounds logical in Hungarian) that very much supports this theory and could prove Chesters pure hatred towards flint's mother
You know the evidence must be sound when the thought train runs at full speed from "Why is the mayor so fat after one month?" to "Cloudy is a prequel to Soylent Green" and it all still makes sense.
Actually that's when you know your being GASLIGHTED
@@MattStMarie-bm5sq Wild conspiracy theories and gaslighting aren't the same. Gaslighting is Person A telling Person B something that is very contradictory to what Person B believes they know to be true and then Person A proceeds to chip away at Person Bs intelligence and self-esteem until they decide that maybe they were wrong this whole time. There is a sense of power imbalance. A conspiracy theorist believes you to be close in intelligence to themselves only not as informed as they are on this particular issue. They will lay out all the information they have and hope you connect the dots as they have towards the same conclusion. Even if you end up not agreeing with them or their evidence, the journey is usually at least entertaining.
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I mean, Chester deceiving, backstabbing, killing, and stealing other inventors is canon.
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Wait how do you mean?
@@swerve7552I don't think they know what they mean tbf
@@swerve7552 I think it is implied that it wasn't the first time Chester associated with a promising inventor with a brilliant idea only to steal it and screw them over
Fuck on who is Chi Hua Winchester Road who who you a hoe oh you a key yelled. Yup devil for Vader Zilmer boy that Zim you’re the worst Siri. What is what is your L? Sorry Zell is Siri Harden, kid, her pardon smash Zim please❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊
I always wonder if the people who worked on movies ever watch these types of videos about them and what they’re thinking
"Psychopathic madman parading as Bill Nye the Science Guy" is one of the best sentences I've ever heard in my life. This theory is amazing and makes far too much sense.
Where is your profile picture from?
@@blackagent4754 The best I can give you to go off of is that it appears to be a picture of Noodle of the band Gorillaz (or at least their animated depiction, in reality literally just like one guy and 3 other interchangeable members.) By the looks of it it's specifically her design from the Humanz era onward.
You mean Bill Nye wasn't just a psychopathic madman parading as Bill Nye the Science Guy?
If Theorizer didn't claim that phrase, I'm using it in my video.
I love how when you put the negative filter over the original image you used, Chester just turns normal.
“Getting the right answer the wrong way be like”
@@TheTheorizer I don't want to be rude, but might I suggest a theory?
Could you maybe do a theory on Warhammer 40k? There is _so much lore_ it’d be like paradise for someone for you. Something like “are the Tyranids running from something?” Or something about the Astartes.
@@LordCrate-du8zmI don’t think he’ll listen. I once tried proposing a theory to him that the headspace scenes in TDAS with Mike and the others were filmed in post production after the show finished filming in order to fabricate an ending. But he never responded.
@@TheTheorizercould you perhaps do a theory on the Sony marvel universe. You have a gift of making mid and terrible films interesting and I’d love to see what you can come up with.
21:18 what the fuck is that sound. It dragged out this visceral feeling inside me like i was being watched and in danger
I know. It’s not just the sound, but the edited context. I do this very often in my videos, I’ve mastered that visceral sinking feeling. It’s very elusive, but I’ve nailed the psychology of it, sometimes my videos consist of dozens of those lmaoo
@@TheTheorizer your videos have changed my life, your videos are a perfect representation of my brain, great minds think alike
@@TheTheorizerfire schizoposting
It sounded like the Yume Nikki stabbing sound slowed down xd
C-Moon almost got our ass bruh
Feel like one day this guy is just gonna ascend to the spirit realm because he knows too much
Hopefully he doesn't get captured by Kai during his time there.
Maybe he'll get rapture by Jesus Christ.
And we all are gonna end up joining him 😂
Yep the CIA will get him and if not, then Mort will.
@@Soundwave_Superior_45 Hi, Reptile Friend!!!
I kept thinking that the mayor either drowned after eating his boat or he transformed into a giant monster and once Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 2 was filmed, he then barged in and started eating the living food and the growing just goes on and on and on.
If only they’d decided to do a 3rd cloudy with a chance of meatballs. Maybe that was why (in the plot) they didn’t. Because Mayor Shelbourne came back and literally ate everything.
During the credits of the first film, you can see that he survived and got arrested. I don’t know if this was confirmed by the creators, so make what you will of this.
He wanted to Join the Serpent King, so he could devour the very gods.
@@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750 TOGETHAAAAAA
@@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750join the sardine King as familieeeeee
*I EATED IT ALL*
Bro got sick, had a fever dream while watching the movie, then went straight to the mic and hit record
you forgot the steps between straight to the mic and hitting record: repeating the script/outline/whatever multiple times getting more insane because he kept forgetting to actually hit record probably due to either the fever or the actual insanity that this theory isn't 100% bs and there is some plausibility to a lot of it
A lot of the stuff makes sense though.
'Going insane' is a legit credential this guy could put on a resume.
I don’t know if anyone also thinks this. One thing I always seem to strangely admire about the two CWACOM Movies, is how effectively creepy they make their main villains to be.
The Mayor’s final huge change at the end was always enough for me to feel grossed out. I can’t explain how, but it it just becomes so uncanny. Disturbing even.
Chester is an even more effective example. The way he moves, the hidden darkness behind the radiant positivity.
Both movies have a unique touch to it. That’s all I can say.
Body horror has always freaked me out. Like foreign objects being swallowed or being force fed to where my gut feels like it's stretching and as a kid his characters defeat freaked me out so bad. Like in the end eating his own raft, uncontrollably so because it's insinuating he is gonna eat it until there is no boat and he will be uncontrollably chewing until he drowns
Yayyyy
You get scared by happy people
@@AxiEisaHappiness is a failed heart, I guess.
Yeah the sequels villain has a cult like feeling imo and it's really noticeable seeing him manipulate Flint
@@board-qu9iu I'm pretty sure he's based at least partly off of Steve Jobs lmfao
Sir, this is a Wendy's
Ok
Lmao
Lol this works well for this video. It’s so intense but I love it! XD
This man can read the room better than Neil, so Neil < this guy.
Broo😭🙏
What if Flint's mom is Chester's daughter ? That would explain why Flint is so smart and why Flint resembles both his mom and Chester.
Plus , Chester being Flint's grandfather would explain why he is also jealous of him . Not only did his grandson find a way to feed most , if not all the world's population with delicious food , but he also managed to do that in a very short timeframe compared to Chester . Basicaly , Chester is mad that his grandkid made a much better invention than him faster .
This would also explain why Chester daughter was so smart to becuase her father Chester is a genius as well so flint being this smart becuase of that actually makes sense
It also explains how HOT DAMN IS HE OLD.
Wouldn't the ages not quite play out since Chester seems to be a similar age to Fran like I don't think he's more than 15 years older than her rember he looked a lot closer to Frans age when we see him on tv wich is the time where she would be alive maybe if he was as old as he is in the second movie in the flashback I would belive he was her farther. I personally think Fran cheated on Chester with Tim Lockwood. Also personally I think Flint is soo smart because of how his mother encouraged him to work hard and we see that he keeps thinking of different inventions and a lot of then fail more than they succeed he is just very stubborn.
There were a couple scenes where Chester very clearly one-ups and condescends to Flint, which I think is proof that Chester is clearly jealous that Flint was able to do something he couldn't. I mean, instead of just making his own Fldminstr, he resorted to stealing it, as if it was his only option.
That's what I was thinking
You're like if MatPat started with Film Theory first instead of Game Theory, never hired people, and then actually went crazy, I love it! +1 Subscriber
Matpat is also known to steal theories (look up micer2012)
He definitely is
matpat is just as crazy
@@dumbloafofbread No, not really.
MatPat has a more surface level crazy that is more goofy and we can all relate with at times, The Theorizer seems to have a deeper crazy that isn't just a running gag and has been festering for longer, combined with doing way more objectively crazy theories for years.
Matpat has alien dogs, The Theorizer has an entire series on how powerful and evil Mort (from the Madagascar movies and King Julian Netflix series) is, along with a series analyzing the characters from SpongeBob and theorizing Patrick Star is an evil mastermind.
Again, no. MatPat and The Theorizer are on different levels of crazy.
@@CL0UDY_TWILIGHT This man needs psychiatric help.
*"How has nobody ever caught this!?"* is spoken so sincerely its disturbing
A few small things I thought of
1. Chester very well could have lied around the un sending him
And more importantly 2: sardines are apparently very nutrient dense, which would be an important factor in creating a food bar, which seems to be similar to a protein bar or some sort of meal replacement. Chester talks about wanting to change his recipes in the past to taste better (we see flavor crystals being added, and that this is the 8th version) so moving from a bad tasting, healthier sardine based food bar to a chemically better tasting varient
I believe that swallow falls is a town owned completely by Chester, similar to fordlandia, as everyone there works in sardines, no other types of business seen.
Another piece of evidence towards Chester controlling swallow falls, a reason for flints mom being in swallow falls, they could’ve been the manager of this sardine factory
I live in a rural island, a good part of our economy was the fishery. If you didn't fish you were part of the support of that sector. It's not unsurprising
Man, it's so fun to listen to your batshit insane theories about my favorite childhood movies while washing the dishes!
It just hits different.
Definitely. Sometimes I go to sleep listening to the Mort Theory.
The Theorizer:We live in a society, where plotholes are a distant memory.
I am surprised to hear that the mayor never had a heart attack because of all of that food
It is not normal food. It is mutated severely.
he's just a big man with a big strong heart!
@judy3827 apparently omega 3 in fish is good for your heart soo probably had less of a risk because of that
@@trixxart777 really
@tbjoshua8941 yeah look it up especially with more oily fish like sardines
Chester wanted to play God, he wanted complete dominion on what he thought was rightfully his, the sacred double helix. But he was also obsessed with the human mind, this is why he transferred Fran's brain into Barb and why he crossbreeds primates, for breeding ingenuity. And this explains why the monkey thought translator works on Tim. Chester knew that crossbreeding lead to increased ingenuity and wanted a protégé from Fran's brilliance due to her unified field theory and Tim's crossbred primate brain. Flint was the key for Chester's success of God domination. But ultimately Chester grew Envious and Wrathful of Flint's genius due to his narcissism and wanted to destroy him mentally and physically. Colombia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animation wrote a hell of a Villain.
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Hang on a sec, Flint’s mom is married to a fisherman… what do you call that thing on the end of a fishing hook? A barb.
Holy f*ck….
omg LOL
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@TheTheorizer
If Chesters plans truly was to numb the minds of others for more control and to sell food bars, then he would of won having a machine that easily produces food and numbs their minds from it being mutated... So that cheeseburger eating him literaly saved the entire world. 😭
Very ironic because at first the Cheese Burger Spiders were beamed to be the most evil beings and attacking lady liberty. Yes, we do get a scene near the climax of the burgspider being a nice pet but still, it’s a spider.
@@Fancy_ManRoblox
Chester being eaten by a primitive creature is quite a humiliating fate for some narcissistic mastermind like him.
He could've gotten away whenever he wants but he just screwed everything up in the last second because of his either stupidity or arrogance or maybe both.
My favorite quote from this major is
"Pizza stuffed inside a turkey, the whole thing deep fried and dipped in chocolate" 😂😂😂😂
Average mukbang
@@candacefullrv9291Lmao
Healthiest American cuisine:
“It’s me the mayor”.
@@RockettRevengerr”oh, uhh, you look different, uhh Did you get a new haircut?”
This is honestly some of the best media analysis I’ve ever seen.
Never thought I’d hear the word “crossbreeding” in a Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs video
Do you not remember the rat birds?
@@lyslegrande9282 weren’t they lab created?
@@JamboreeBlackberry crossbreeding in a lab then.
@@gabrielbarbosa7882 hmm
Dude is the best theorist on this platform IMO, been around a very long time and I'm glad he's growing, he deserves it.
fr wanted it to happen for like year or so now
well since he's killed the competition, that statement is true now (new world domination theory??)
Have you ever heard of the Game theorist 🗿
So basically, a more unhinged version of matpat that spouts endless conspiracy theories...
@@illegalisntlegal MatPat isn't even in the same league as the theorizer, dude is giving up and to start didn't even write his own theories, he needed a team of writers and thinkers to come up with their theories and most of the theories are click-baity in nature. The theorizer just comes up with anything and everything and can actually make you believe it.
17:34 😭😭 this was the point of no return
I don't even get what the motivation to do that could have been.
Flints mom being a scientist makes him being so smart make sense, I was always like, where is all that intelligence stemming from?
holy crap its eren yeager
It also would give a better reason for Flint's mother to give him a lab coat instead of just buying it at a store
Really? I know from experience that intelligence is not genetic.
@@mattpace1026 But it is taught and often retained. That doesn't change what bro said.
@@galacticalove The mental gymnastics you must've done for that response to make sense in your head are probably on par with the mental gymnastics this dude did to make this video make sense to him.
I like how everyone made fun of flint for his inventions being wacky and having weird side effects, but his inventions being wacky and having weird side effects (the food coming alive) is what killed the main villian in the end.
If physicists had the theorizing capabilities of this man, we would have a working Theory of Everything by yesterday
The Theorizer is lowkey the most entertaining RUclips content creator on the platform. Bravo on another astounding video 👏
This may be your best theory yet. Not since the Mr Krabs money theory that introduced me to this channel have I seen such a compelling video.
Have you missed some of the recent ones?
@TheTheorizer no. The others just seemed a little more far-fetched, in my opinion. The DreamWorks conspiracy with talking animals and Mort was pretty good though.
@@TheTheorizer I gotta rewatch this, because of how much information was dumped. Very good theory sir
This is my new favorite channel, it's like listening to the sleep deprived ramblings of a friend during a late night study session on finals week.
Maybe that's why the machine was mean to flint in the first movie but nice to him in the second, Chester had some control over the machine, maybe that's also how it knew to give itself protection with living food and peanut butter even though no one's ever been up there, chester maybe was going to destroy the town with the giant food and take the machine for himself afterwards, but didn't know flint was going to go up there and blow it up, making him loose control and needing to take the machine manually.
Him having control also explains the weird ways the food was falling, like with the fortune cookie and the cherry causing the wall to break, ain't no way the food machine knew the exact weight to destroy that wall to finish with a cherry, that definitely sounds like Chester was trolling. 😂
Yeah true, it could also explain how the food animals in the second movie were able to specifically see chesters mearch, the food machine was like nah, that man caused me too much problems, if you see anyone with this mearch it's on site.
"Plot holes? You clearly underestimate the writers!"
“You deny your theory it’s purpose”
"Making the mother of all *Theory's* here Jack. Can't fret over every Plot hole!"
“Don’t fuck with this theorist!”
@@lukeistired_it yearns to connect the dots and solve the puzzle yet you hold it back
This is the very first video meant by this channel that I ever watched. Brilliant, and absolutely chilling how everything really does fit together, to some scary conclusions.
Theorizer: "This is where it goes dark!" Me: "I can handle this..." Theorizer: "Human animal hybrids!" Me: "I wasn't ready for this!" Theorizer: "The people are foodbars!" Me: "Okay, I can handle this again..."
You make it sound like he's used to cannibalism, but he draws the line at the idea of a "relationship" with animals... and I think I just saw why.
this man could single handedly solve all of fnaf if you give him enough time tbh, it's amazing how far he can push even the smallest details into massive underlying elements within a movie's universe and then some
Bro's is 10 parallel universe ahead of us
Chester V is an EXTREMELY realistic and relatable portrayal of a Narcissist parent aswell. That was a part of why I Loved the second movie. Because I had never seen such a good representation of a Narcissist who the main character GENUINELY loved and was seen as a wonderful person publicly before Completely stabbing Flint in the back and Showing his true colors, or lack there of. Hit very close to home.
I haven’t seen all of the show but I remember from one of the episodes I did watch, Sam literally turns into a living piece of bacon and the town residents go crazy trying to eat her alive. I’m not even kidding.
I’m gonna let that slide lol
I remember that episode, too
How does that compare to the episode where they babysitted Baby Brent (an adult man) to earn money, but got scammed with "Brent coins" instead
@@takodaos OK I think I'm gonna have to watch this show, the hell are these plots? 😅
@@theemeraldking3251 There was also an episode where a panda came to the town zoo and Flint and Sam were able to successfully prove it was an alien brainwashing the citizens into doing something I think
I can got imagine this guy watching a movie frantically writing notes as he slowly, but surely loses his sanity
"Mayor Shelbourne gets lost and sea, and in comes Chester V."
Only the Theorizer could spit out bars like these
Matpat is quitting so your officially the theory king 🤴
The only reason why matpat was beating him because he post 4 times a week
MatPat had a whole team. The Theorizer comes up with solid gold by himself and his theories are mindblowing and borderline insane.
@@P.e.m.a. yes but until March 9th(or now) in my opinion matpat is king, but I agree the theorizer has better quality
@@thedopestshow5504 It's strange to think that if Matpat did his theories all by himself, he would be in the same position of the Theorizer for Sherlock Holmes esque insanity. Not that Matpat did any bad ones, I love a whole ton of them, but it's just in a different context.
@@creeperkinght1144 yeah true I changed(more like you) changed my mind
Imagine making a harmless kids film about food raining from the sky and you go online to see reviews for it and you stumble across this video 💀
The mayor always scared me because he looks like he could eat Flint Lockwood alive, and my biggest fear is being swallowed whole by a human
Never look up vore
How do you think that fear originated?
origin of furry vore
So you have the opposite of a vore fetish
Hell kinda fear is that
Brother, the part about Barb's brain being the brain of Flint's dead mother legit made me cry... i cried for a good minute. What have you done?? ; - ;
i *have to* rewatch this duology again, it was so good.
The fact Flints mother is married to a fisherman makes her name even worse, because at the end of many fishing hooks... lies a barb.
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@@TiramisuRainTHE PUNS
This feels like the deranged ramblings of someone trying to make sense of a plot designed to NOT make sense. I love this.
Quick note to support the cross breeding idea, in the spin off show their is this creature called lobster clause which is pretty much swallow falls version of Santa but is a humanoid lobster creature who gets eaten every Christmas, (Note, this is going of memory from over a year ago but still might be something to look into)
Why not use clones idea? Works perfectly for me to explain how spin-offs are canon and why they were kinda instinctively engineer things. It's generations of clones with written brain. SW is control group.
Remember in the Microwave studio when they said having the second movie start right after the end of the first makes it feel like a really long movie? This video basically rectifies that by making Chester look like an enormous overarching villian.
Your voice can make any ridiculous theory terrifying
It always puts a smile on my face to see this guy upload
So you're telling me that Chester V wants to turn humanity into controllable and mindless furries, but also use them as livestock for foodbars?
This truly is the Soylent Green prequel!!!!!
Particular in Xenogears style
My kin-1st grade teacher Gave me the original paper back copy of this book when I left her class. It was always my fave at bedtime. Who knew nearly 25 years later I'm watching a cursed conspiracy video on the movie rendition of my childhood book. Love it.
Batman reading me a dramatic conspiracy theory about Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs was not on my 2024 bingo card
I have a theory, I believe that Wonka is the same creature as marry poppins and IT. Wonka, in the new movie, he is shown prioritizing other people’s emotions, but only when he gains the opportunity to make them grow closer to him. He is shown to be wired on others whenever he causes on other person extreme emotions. If you look at the previous movies he chooses children as the people he interacts with. Why children, because they are the most influential and emotional people you could interact with. He is shown putting each child in an environment in which they are the most emotional. The overweight German boy caused him to create a world in which they could indulge in gluttony as much as possible. Which would cause an extreme reaction, emotions. He refused to intervene throughout the movie because the children’s emotions would keep developing and growing the longer he lets them indulge or react. Also he only acknowledged the children when it gave him the chance to bring out emotions from the children. In the second Charlie and the chocolate factory movie Wonka is shown being dispatched from reality. Almost if Earth meant nothing to him, this would further highlight his strange obsession with children. In the first Charlie and the chocolate factory movie he targets children’s imagination trying to bring out their emotions. There is always more, but I don’t have time to explain more.
stop making sense-
@@zizgoyeet ??
How does Mary Poppins fit into this though?
I do like this theory so far.
The creature I am relating them all to is a type of alien that feeds off of human emotions and thoughts. Mary Poppins has shown to have “other worldly powers” and would only interact with humanity when she has the opportunity to receive energy from humans. She appeals to children, and their imagination. In fact she states that she only wishes to make people happy. She purposely targets people (mainly children) who are the most apt to follow and explore their imagination and emotions. Although my memory is a little fuzzy on her actions, if you look throughout her movies and book it suggests heavily that she is always trying to attain happiness (with a strong passion).
I've actually seen this theory somewhere before it actually does make a bit of sense
This was one of my favourite childhood movies. Watching this changed everything I thought I knew about the movie, holy crap.
This is actually insane, you see in a previous theory you claim that Doris and Petunia have human brains inside them, fast forward today and we see you have found another instance of an animated movie with a character housing a Human brain from a missing mother figure.
Man. The good news we have by now is according to Phil Lord the one of directors of Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs said that there is now a script. According to him, it was waited to be greenlit and accepted yet. The title of the Potential 3rd movie is called "Planet Of The Grapes" this Potential sequel was on google since September 22 2023.
Cant wait for that, I just hope it’s good and a fun watch
@@nikkifish same here. We needed a petition! For this to happen this year
I love theory videos like this. Because even if the theories are false, it's still absolutely beautiful to listen to an entirely different perspective
You get more and more unhinged as these videos get released it is both simultaniously terrifying and entertaining oh also concerning I love and fear every second
I want to know, why in the second movie, there are mainly fruit and vegetables that are alive. But we also see a giant cheeseburger and giant taco.
Maybe, and stay with me here, the mayor mutated into the giant cheeseburger, he literally ate burgers earlier in the movie. And… “the cheeseburger are trying to swim, to attack lady liberty!” Is a quote in the movie.
I always thought the mayor drowned, he mutated into a giant cheeseburger and finally ate Chester V.
Oh my gosh, I’m mind blown
also, correct me if I'm wrong, there was only ONE cheesespider in the movie (until the ending where there were more being made). However, the only thing that breaks this theory is that the cheesepider was a female, and that the spider wasn't a threat, Live Corp was.
@@thedailyembarassment yes, you’re totally right…
Don’t we see the mayor at the end of both movies though? At the end of the first movie, he ended up returning to his normal size and was arrested by Earl and at the end of the second movie, we see him sell hotdogs on the beach
@@generalcrab0009 That _really_ points to the food being the main reason for his form to swell so considerably. Without the mutant food constantly pumping whatever chemicals it contained into his body, it stopped affecting him and he returned to his normal self.
@@LordCrate-du8zm I never said the food didn’t cause him to swell up. I know it did. I was just saying to the original commenter that it’s impossible for the mayor to have mutated into the giant cheeseburger
The entire cloudy with a chance of meatballs world is a massive inside joke that only Flyn isn’t in on.
Whenever i feel crazy, i watch you. Makes me feel better. No but seriously i love you man.
Also, how is it that Flint and Chester both invented wedgie-proof pants "independantly" when they were similar ages... Flint when he was 6 and Chester when he was 3. Weird.
Also, rat birds.
How are they alive?
That comically small sardine in the giant fish bowl in the first movie seems to be sentient when it shouts for joy at perspective freedom, only to be snatched midair by a rat bird. They also stole a child in the background of one of the shots in the beginningish of the first movie.
Also, those kids who were YEETED on the ice cream to oblivion, why does no one on the island seem to care?
fr who tf was giving a 3 year old wedgies anyway 😭
@@l4cunazPeople who hate Chester I guess
love the way your brain works, this is definitely my new fave theory from you, makes perfect sense
this video is so serious that it's unserious
23:44 As someone who has (Unfortunately) watched the show in its entirety, yes everything said here is true and so much more.
The mayor can shoot lasers out of his eyes and he even has an actual son and dad of his own. Many of the episodes are just banter and barely relate to the main movie, let alone one or two episodes.
Amazing yet INSANE theory as always Theorizer, cant wait to see what else youll cook up!
I hate that this is actually insanely compelling, and I love it all the same
Dude, this is absolutely one of the best theories youve ever made. Its still insane to me that you can pull a whole conspiracy from a film that seems very surface level. This is like 10th time you've done that lol
If I had a nickel for everytime the Theorizer revealed that a character contained the consciousness of another character in them, I'd have three nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened more than once.
17:38 Thats giving me horror vhs tapes vibe. Noice
Direct quote from Soylent Green “They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food.” That is definitely the scenario here and super dark for a kids movie 😅
I always felt that the mom was Chester's older Sister and that he was jealous of his nephews success.
This was a dope and spot-on theory from The Theorizer. This same thing is allegedly happening today and since forever. They create the problem, the calamity, and the solution.
Matpat may have left, but at least we still have this crazy dude! (Love you Theorizer /platonic)
Love you theoriser (extremely hot steamy and romantical)
Love you, Theorizer. (/PURELY sexual.)
I thought he was going to say a part of Steve the Monkeys brain was his Father's. It could explain why he became more closed of to his son emotionally but still survives due to his brain still being in tact enough for basic function.
i love how passionate you are, its so great keep up the good work !
i chose the right time to open up youtube, huh.
ngl, this theory has a lot of flaws (e.g. the power grid would have no logical influence on the FLDSMDFR becoming a rocket; earl probably did actually hate flint, but it was probably a "love-hate for the town goofball" kind of thing; the section on flint's mom is pure speculation and the liv corp logo looks absolutely nothing like the floral pattern on the mother's dress, the fact they're both orange is just a coincidence. actually the whole theory falls apart when you start with flint's mother, which is rare because usually when you cook you end up having high probability of being right but this time it was really erroneous aside from the basic concept.), but i believe the basic concept after seeing the food bar in flint's hands and hearing the quotes by chester v. i wouldn't be surprised if the second film ret-conned a few things to set that plotline up.
after watching the video, i give this theory a 5/10. basic concept is probably true and is a really good theory, but it entirely falls apart after you start talking about flint's mom; there is basically no evidence supporting the theory by that point and its roots are all assumptions, anything drawn from those assumptions are purely coincidental. either way, it's nice to watch another theorizer video.
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"Recovering from a cold while writing this."
Ah, it's the NightQuil talking... You have my full attention. :)
i been watching your videos from the start and i still love how much maddness can still happen in these videos.
If Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and Wall-e weren't from different companies I would say that they are connected. Overpopulation, humans consumed as food, massive people.
This video's editing is incredible and this theory makes my brain blow up
0:10 you know what else is massive?
Low taper fade
*_"MY MOM'S TRUCK!"_*
YOU KNOW WHATS BIG? HEHEHEH WAIT! I MENT MY HEART MY HEART! GRRR RAAA-
I've never been more excited for a theory! Thanks for all you do for us :)
i just wanted 2 point out that the fldsmdfr (The Food Machine) appears in the end battle in Into The Spiderverse, which was made by the same people. After seeing that i always theorised that Fisk got his dimensional travel technology, or at least part of it from fellow business mogul from across the country, Chester. Both owning massive technological cooperate conglomerations, it seems likely they would've traded technology or even collaborated with research. If u also take note in the second Cloudy while flint is working 4 Livecore he finally has access 2 labs and other equipment that rapidly increases his scientific development 2 the point where he is churning out 100's of ideas in just a six month span, most of which r successful (though not in his mind, due 2 the lack of acknowledgment from Chester), including prototypes for freeze rays, shrink rays, invisibility devices AND DIMENSIONAL PORTAL travel. Although initially only working with inanimate objects, he later tweaks it 4 sentient food in just a short amount of time, it could be easily assumed that it would only go on from there. The rest of his inventions Chester steals throughout the entire period and distorts them into weapons to sell, such as his Sentinels of Safety, which r riddled with Flint n his friends talents. Even though Flint can b clumsy n chaotic this mostly just goes 2 show how fast Flint can develop n adapt an idea, which could explain why the machine turned into a rocket since we know in a flashback he's been developing Flying Car technology which is near completed at that time since he can throw it together at the end of the film. Although naïve Flint is an incredible engineer, geneticist n programmer, (the AI he creates 4 the machine is obviously insanely advanced) he's 1 of my favourite characters of all time n it's kinda funny 2 think he set in motion everything that happened in the Spiderverse. i lub himb.
I actually have this even more insane theory about the food that develops on the island in the second film, specifically the berry population n it's social evolution, n how Chester's team on the island unknowing created one of their biggest downfalls. The berries n some of the other food r developed 2 the point of language and community interaction is a daily part of their life, so them evolving along side their dominate threat has created a society founded on a 2 sided war. Chester's team initially there 4 recovery with nothing much more than simple metal detectors, The Fldsmdfr immobile yet energised from the pool, with what little remains of it's initial protective troops, (the Flying Pizza, and the mobile Gummy Bears...Chicken...(which already in the first film the AI had evolved so much so that in just 1 month that it had already begun creating basic protective sentient living food)).
Both sides with access 2 rapidly evolving technology Chester began retaliating the machines defences (Flint unknowing aiding in the attempted capture n destruction of his creations by inventing 4 Livecore) by sending numerous teams with increasing arms, with the machine drastically altering the environment and the weather (i have theorised that Flint has been working on other weather manipulation projects since accidentally launching the machine a. 2 try n maintain some control over his mistake b. 2 also impress his potential partner who is obsessed with weather. i can't vouch as 2 how successful he is as the evidence in the second film may just b a window mod not an actual weather mod.(although not entirely canon the end credits do show Sam n Flint manipulating weather in a lab which is something the did always talk about doing in film so it could b safe 2 assume that The Fldsmdfr AI would veer down that path quite easily)) while rapidly creating soldiers each generation more advanced than the last. So long and brutal has this war been that here have been dozens of human and food casualties, 24 battalions have been sent and lost n by the time Flint n his team arrive The Berries have evolved 2 the point of conducting out covert operations. Along with The Burger they demonstrate a number of tactical maneuvers and organise a number of highly advances scouting and attack missions. Berrie is a spy, not only that a high ranking 1, he knows 2 target the weaponised BSUSB n gain intel n retreat when he's overpowered, the rest is just in the film. ALSO the tomato is the MOST powerful being in that universe, i can elaborate but not here. it is all insane but it's fun c:
Holy wall of text, batman!@@bloodmoths3962
Need this guy to voice a video game character that’s a detective or something, who has an hour long monologue about the whole truth of the game that hits so hard it’s like a point-blank shotgun to the chest.
When scaled to the Theorizer nobody is an overthinker.
Wow, I REALLY misread the community post you made for when this would be uploaded... But, that's fine! I've been really excited for the conclusion in this video since you first posted about it, and I can't wait to hear what you've found. Update; I've finished the video, and it was incredible, as always. But I'm wondering, did you mean to imply the food has secondary addictive properties aside from being tastier than normal food?
No I just had to speed things up, it was supposed to be a day from now lol
I like the perspective you give these movies and shows
Maybe it’s too soon but this guy is way better at the Theory thing then MatPat imo
He always has been, even though i do love MatPat too. I want my theories unhinged and insane, yet 100% plausable somehow. Theorizer never disappoints. 🤩
MatPat has become quite an internet meme for his... varying quality in theories. He's very casual about theories so as a result many of them can't hold up to theories from people like this. Or in other words, MatPat's good at entertainment, but few of his theories are actually plausible if one really thinks about it.
I really think it comes down to dedication here, because MatPat has come up with some really great theories over his time on RUclips but the quality between videos can be massively different because of how often he’s been uploading in recent years. Meanwhile The Theorizer takes his time with each one of videos to make sure the theory is as well fleshed out and believable as possible which is what we’re really all here for
@@Kyrikrliymore specifically matpat is more speculation rather than theorising